WEBVTT - Meet the Artist Behind The Questlove Show Logo & Animations 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:18.960 Quest Love Show is a production of iHeart Radio. All right, 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.759 So just came to my attension that not only do 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.200 we not have a kind of an umbrella title for 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.760 what this is, but I don't even know what these 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.920 quikies are called. Are these called quest Love quikies or 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:35.400 not Quest Love Quickies? Why we're all adults here? 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.080 Does everybody who listens to this show have a gutter mind? 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.360 Is that what you're afraid? Yeah? Pretty much, we do, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.560 we do, all right? So, uh, of course I'm here 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.440 with new family member, opened my eagle. I am in 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.479 the family, our fearless leader, our silent leader. You know. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.040 One of the things that people have given me a 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.480 lot of great feedback on are the kind of the 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.800 anime shorts that sort of advertise who comes here. And 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.440 it's kind of been like a long running tradition here 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.840 at q LS, and we thought, hey, why don't we 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.679 shed some light, give more flowers to the people behind 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:21.240 the scenes. And one of such one such person is 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.279 our animator of those great shorts to those audio clips 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.240 that we do. Nick Peloe, did I say it right? 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:30.560 You said it perfectly. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.680 Literally When I said the name, I'd literally imagined me 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:42.040 like Crossing Cherriots of Fire, Nick Peloe, how are you? 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:43.400 I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.800 We're great, great, we're great. Well, we're doing Yeah, we're great, 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.040 and we're well. Yeah, So let's not just jump into 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:51.720 the business all. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.320 Where are you from? How am I from? That's a 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:55.160 that's a question. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.920 I'm from a lot of places now because I've kind 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.280 of jumped around a lot. I'm initially from James Down, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.120 New York area, Cassadega, New York, little tiny town of 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.800 like six hundred people. I'm not supposed to be here. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.880 I'm supposed to be there like fishing or something. Whatever 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.639 they're doing there, shout out to them. But yeah, I've 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.800 been everywhere. I've jumped to Pittsburgh for like six years 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.079 through college and working in the news there. I worked 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.160 at a haunted house there. I went to New York, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.040 did more news there, comedy and stuff. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.560 Wait, since we have to Pittsburgh residents here? Oh yeah, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.760 when is the actual proper time to use the word 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.840 Yin's because I've been trying to connect with people, but 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.120 I don't want to sound like people trying to say. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.520 Join sure, So I say talk about high pressure as 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.360 a as a non resident there, I can give you 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.200 my best shot and Jake will give me a thumbs up. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.160 What exact a use? 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.880 It's like a you ones is the source of it, 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.200 but it doesn't it I know what it sounds. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:59.679 Like, yeah, yeah, but wait, that's the origin. I did 0:02:59.680 --> 0:02:59.960 not know. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.359 That's at least where like the fanatics I think come from. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.640 But it's a it's a y'all. It's so it's our 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.040 uns going downtown to see the stillers or you know whatever. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.680 Yeah, so it has to start with you. I didn't 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.960 know I was using yen's almost as a yeo instead of. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.200 I mean, you could use it as like a y'all, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.880 but I think that's so. I think you wouldn't be 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.040 incorrect and that it's. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.480 Just uhn yeah. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.919 Usually it's like a question that sounds like a statements 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.919 went to Walmart kind of a thing. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:31.800 But like, I don't know that's about. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:36.120 Okay, because we're both from Pennsylvania. I want to know, Okay, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.920 so what is inside of this control? 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.400 The word won't catch the double D from me, butter 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.160 is that where we're are we going to? 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.720 I don't say water, but like I know Woter. I'm 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:47.320 a water. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.520 Guy, Okay, I think I say water water. Do I 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:57.800 sound like a Philadelphian's is it? Yeah? Okay, so yeah, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.280 because because whatater I s? Yeah? Water? Got it? 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.240 Yeah, I'm a water guy. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.000 But we also grew up in like a very enunsative 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:08.360 family that famously, if we were baby talked, were precocious children. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.480 Like my older brother had a famous line of an 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.200 uncle was like you want some wal wine, as a 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.760 baby was like water, I want water. And that's how 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.960 we were. We were all raised like super enunciate and 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:18.520 then like. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.599 Yeah, I do not talk baby talk to kids. Yeah, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.120 I talked them as adults. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.159 Yeah, it's the best way to talk to just about anybody. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.720 I'm a new dog dad, and I can't be really okay, 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.360 how old you? This dog just turned five, but I 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.440 came in around two years old as the dad. So 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.760 I'm getting used to us sometimes doing a little bit 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.080 of like hey, boody, but I'm just kind of a hey, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.279 what's up guy? No matter who it is, I talk. 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.000 To your dog like a like a guy, like a person. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.320 I'd say like seventy five percent of the time, and 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.240 then I like I'm softening. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:49.440 Up to the rest. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.000 I was told I was very mean spirited. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.360 Oh no, just to make a cold or straight up. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.479 Well, yeah, because you know he's in sort of territorial 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.240 marking mood a right, And I'm coming from motherfucker that 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.040 said sheep's getting rugg You just did that. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:09.200 On okay, so that makes sense. Dollars when they ship 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:10.400 places they're not supposed to. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.520 Ah. Yeah, you know, this dog knows what he's doing. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.200 And that's the thing like his territorials situation, very very 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.719 jealous of, you know, the closeness of you know, me 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.880 and his mom's Okay. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.560 See, I've actually taken over as like the source of attention. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.640 But I'm like a reluctant leader. So I get a 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.440 lot of like dog laying on my chest trying to 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.359 get in my face, and I'm like, go do this 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:32.800 with your mom. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.239 She wants this. He did? You used it with snacks? 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.600 A couple snacks, yea too many? 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.560 Yeah. I get his respect now because he knows that 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.840 I will sneak him snacks too. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.279 I'm curious. You said you worked at a haunted house. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.800 You said real fast. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.680 So I was at the place called the Scarehouse in 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.400 Pittsburgh for like all six years. I was in Pittsburgh, 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.200 and I was like, through my college job wasn't building 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:58.040 sets and stuff. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.720 And this actually leads. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.159 Well into kind of what we want to talk about 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.720 with animation stuff, because this is like i'd say, big 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.320 budget place, like you think of like a big hunted 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.839 house with lines around the blocks and stuff. But we 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.799 worked on it all year, even though we're only opened 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:12.440 for two years. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:13.400 It's since closed down. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.919 But it was in Etna, Pennsylvania, and I was a 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.800 line actor as like a silent scary rabbit, and I 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:20.880 would just like, boy. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.800 Let me know about this. So what is the process 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:28.680 of how does one choreograph working at a hornet house? 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.240 So it was largely in an improvised situation. I would say, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.880 like as far as being an actor there, I was 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.960 in my places there because I was someone who could 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.120 wing it. Like I started as scary and then eventually 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:43.920 when you can't talk for long enough in front of 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.520 the same people, you're not scary anymore. So then you 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.279 just default to dancing because you're in a mascot costume. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.320 So there was like a dance off with Chris Brown 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.440 at one point when he rolled through with this tour bus. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.520 There was a dance off with him that I did. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:01.000 Not win, But how's that happening? Don't know? For me? 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.680 That was you know, there's I found that my career, 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.520 as many are. You're you're in like a maybe relatively 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.720 small situation, something awesome happens. You go, this is the 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.800 best it's gonna get right, and you go, great, that's 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.600 that's crazy that that happened to me. And when you 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.720 don't expect anything to happen to you, you don't expect 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.160 it to keep swinging up and be bigger spikes. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.040 But that to me was like the first like, what 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:23.440 the hell? 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.720 I guess I did something interesting. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:31.040 What's the other side of that coin? Because my experiences 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:36.120 with hornet houses, okay, usually some form of pugilism is 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:41.200 going to go down where somebody might get hit, well 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.560 at least out of shot, sure shot, you know that 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:44.200 sort of thing. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.600 I think, uh, And it's uh, for good reason, a 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.000 fairly common question for haunted house actors, because I think 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.679 that there is some press around the idea that not press, 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.920 but people when they're scared do do that, and it 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.720 has happened. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.920 I think, Uh, how many punches do you go through 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:01.280 a whek? 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.920 I think I only got hit once. Oh no. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.840 The only physicality I ran into was like usually the 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.280 younger the person and the like. But honestly, like security 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.840 and stuff like, they pull those people who are going 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.600 to do that out way before they get anywhere inside. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.880 If you have like a two hour line and you're 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:24.200 wasted and you're already gonna get physical with an actor, yeah, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.520 you're gonna do that to me in the lines instead 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.920 of somebody inside. Because like, there's people who grab, there's 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.240 people who like, especially when you're dressed like a mascot, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.480 are like, hey, let's take a photo and I'm gonna 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.200 do whatever I want to because you're not a person, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:37.160 You're a rabbit. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:38.600 So you get a lot of that. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.480 But I was the person to weed those people out 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.920 and say, hey, security before they get in, like, no, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:43.640 go Like. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.280 Are you guys as a cast allowed to have physical 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.080 interaction with us? We just can't touch you guys. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.720 So what's interesting is no in the upstairs, But at 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.840 least at that place at the time, we had another 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.720 We had basically two different things you'd go to. There 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.720 was the scarehouse upstairs, and then there was the basement 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.640 down stairs, and there you could sign a release to 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.319 be touched. And I did work down there a bit, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.319 and you run into a lot of people where you're like, 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.600 I'm gonna put my hand near your throat and they 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.800 like sort of like sign permission, they sign away, where you're, oh, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.120 you're not here to get scared. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.600 This is more. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.760 That's the thing is working in there for just a set, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.600 Like I only did a little bit down there, and 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.920 you could tell it's a very different demographic of people 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.040 who were looking for that. And then upstairs nobody wants that, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.280 so we all agree it's not going to happen. It's 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.280 sort of the unwritten contract of the haunted House. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.360 See. I didn't even think about this part only because 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.960 do you know what Sleep No More? Is? From New York? Yeah, 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.880 at one point, you know, and they'll do like different 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.000 iterations of it, but at one point they would literally 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.800 take your date hostage. Like there's one time where I 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.920 had to literally look for my date again because they 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.880 took it. Do you know what Sleep No More? Yeah, 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:58.600 it's like an abandoned hotel with five floors, and it's 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.240 really a play because they're a playbook that comes with it, playbill, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.800 but it's you don't know it yet. But you're figuring 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.319 out what it is. The first time I did it, 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.720 I didn't realize that I was on the set of Hamlet. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.320 And what you're doing is you walk into this sort 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.920 of what was the film who directed the Shining Kubrick's 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.160 last movie with as Well Shut Yeah, Like, so you 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.080 put a mask on, and anyone without a mask is 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.920 in the play. So you just followed them and you 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.040 look at their action and then this is a two 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.960 hour thing and sometimes they might take you hostage. Yeah. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.920 I got kidnapped twice. When I went one. There was 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.480 this woman who brought me into a room and wrapped 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.720 me in a blanket and started coughing up screws onto 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:46.199 my chest. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.679 Wait, coughing up what screws? Like? 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.040 Metal? 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:49.760 Metal screws. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:50.200 Screws. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.840 I started coughing up screws and sting on my chest. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:58.720 Dude, you pay for this wait fun time. See, I 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:04.240 would have rather had that experience twice. When I got caught, 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.800 I got taken to a room, locked, and I think 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:14.680 to this day this person went rogue. She decided she 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.000 was going to sing to me one of the songs 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.640 off of her new record. Oh yeah, there was like 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.559 a piano in there, but you know, she didn't character 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.200 and now I will serenate you with the you know, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:32.160 I will summon the demons of the sonic sound. And 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.680 then like I was like, this sounds like Alusia keys 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.640 want to be like it sounds like a contemporary song. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.760 So took you right out. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.880 This is when I realized, like, oh, they're going rogue now, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:48.719 just like she's my chance to get him. Yeah, when 0:11:48.920 --> 0:12:04.120 it happened a second time, and then I just stopped going. So, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.920 so how do graphics enter the picture? Like? What did you? So? 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.480 Art was always the thing. My mother was very supportive 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.560 because she drew in high school and stuff and never 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.840 really did anything with it, had kids right away and 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.920 just sort of there was never a big what if 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.560 for her, but it was for her. She was happy 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.440 with the kids, and my what if was like I 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.720 wish she would have pushed further. And so we lost 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.240 her a year ago and said a big theme to 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.120 my entire career has been sort of like, look, ma, 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.040 we did it. So every single step is like a 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:34.840 look mam, we did it. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:35.319 We did it. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:41.000 And so I leaned into the validation of the drawing 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.120 on the fridge, and then through college went to a 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:49.160 graphic design and then ended up at Pittsburgh News station, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:53.120 the NBC station there, which was actually I was there. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.760 It would have been during the Tonight Show transition, so 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.800 we were working with like a lot of marketing materials 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.520 for that launch and stuff, and I was already animating 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.040 there and then I was like, hard gonna quit. And 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.760 I was like, I gotta try comedy because it's what 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.280 I wanted to do on the other side of everything. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.680 And then yeah, and since you can't do everything, you 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.920 gotta pick one thing. I was like, all right, I'm 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.840 gonna quit this and I'm going to New York and ye, well, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:19.880 we're at. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.559 The table where people do all the stuff challenge excepted. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.520 So when I moved to New York, I was like, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.760 I'm done with the news. I'm done not necessarily with 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.840 like art in general, but like the commercial side of marketing. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:31.440 I'm good on. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.000 I wasn't gonna do advertising. And then I needed a 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.120 job in New York and couldn't find one, and I 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.120 went back to those golden handcuffs and I got a 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.200 job at CBS News at the network level there, and 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.360 I was there for several years and we're still doing 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.080 news there back then, so that was like interesting, but 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.280 like it was a lot of looking at people on 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:52.480 the cameras and going, I'm too. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:52.880 Close to this. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.160 It's upsetting me. I gotta try stuff. So I finally 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.840 did some stand up in improv in New York at 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:02.000 EUCB and did some interesting shows that way. But like, 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.320 ultimately I found that I was sort of chasing a 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.080 little bit of Oh, if I'm good at it, I 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.760 should do it, because it feels good to be good 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.840 at stuff. And only once I freed myself from the 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.160 news there was I like, Okay, I'm going to take 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.840 a real swing at figuring out who I am creatively. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.640 And that was the LA move is like I had 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.640 to get away from New York to get away from 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.320 the job that kept calling and I, you know, overnight shifts. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.480 Hey it's two am. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.640 Can you come in? And I'm like, I need the money, Okay, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.680 I had I moved away. I just moved away from it. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.240 And then I came here in September twenty nineteen, right 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.960 before the pandemic, and I was just kind of sitting 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.240 around figuring out what the world's going to be like. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.560 And then I was already doing animation for like general 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.480 advertising stuff just. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:52.440 Out of necessity. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.240 And I got a call from somebody years back who 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.000 was looking for a fill in for this show, the 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.760 old show. They just needed like a one off person 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.280 to animate something. It was a very basic clip and 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.640 I got sort of integrated here through there. That's a 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:09.040 short long version. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.280 But when you. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:15.360 Animate a clip for this show, do you just get 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.880 a clip? Do you listen to the entire interview? 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:18.160 Like? 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:19.240 How does that party? 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.120 A process? For sure? 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.240 So I think every single episode for me is entirely 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.320 different process. Even like at his core, I do the 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.040 same thing on the final day, which is put it 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.200 all together. But depending on timelines of like when you 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.960 guys record versus when stuff is edited, when there's a 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.040 clip selected, I usually have a q of these, where 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.360 like my process starts with research. It's a whole day 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.840 of just absorbing that person, whether I know them or not. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.920 I go into every nook and cranny I can listening 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:52.600 to albums, watching movies, going through eBay to find weird photos, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.040 and those deep dives for me are sort of how 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.280 I if you're familiar with Mega Man the video game, 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.440 Oh yeah, uh, I like to think of it sort 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.680 of like I'm collecting pieces from every project I do. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.360 Like so some of the things I could talk about. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.360 We even did day La Soul Animations together a couple 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:11.920 of years ago. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.440 Oh for the tribute. Yeah that was you, that was me. Wow. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.240 So we've been at this longer than it feels like, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.040 even because this new iteration is, like I think, a 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.320 pretty exciting, like there's some momentum behind like what we're 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.080 doing creatively with it, so it's like a little different. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.880 But even back then, like dal La Soul, I was 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.840 working only black and white as an artist because I 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.640 was going through a broody thing and then there was 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.960 all this day glow color in my life and I'm 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.280 back to designing with color. That's what I got from 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.160 that project. So like I'm absorbing as much as I 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.640 can from every single person that I sometimes listen to 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.640 the person that trained somebody that I'm talking about, and 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.840 it I just want to know who influences them. So 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.240 my drawings are influenced by all the people they're influenced by. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.920 So it goes really deep for some people. And if 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.200 it's a clip that's meant to be kind of easy, 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.640 breezy and not get too deep, sometimes it's a little 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:06.520 more illustrative and storytelling, But the trick is to get 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.800 the assignment figure out. Am I making the guests look good? 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.240 Am I making the show look like a cool place 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.240 to be. Am I making am I reinforcing the brand 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.840 that this is a place where a magical new thing 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.080 can come out for somebody we already know everything about. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.639 I don't have to deep dive everybody. If we already 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:24.919 know everything about that person. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.560 It's almost like job training or HR. How can I 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:34.040 make your life easier? Let you see yourself for five years, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.159 I mean, well when I okay, so especially like ten 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:42.080 years of doing this, I'm you know, absolutely aware when 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.600 I feel as though there's gonna be a highlight clip 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.000 story that they're telling, like they're you know, it's a 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.280 good beginning, good end. They're getting to the point in 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.280 less than a minute. And you know, previously I would 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.159 say like we were unaware of how we talked on 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.840 top of each other and those things and missing words 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:03.639 and all that stuff. But like generally, well, of course, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.840 I guess you could say the less words the better, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.360 or well, I because you're doing words and actions. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.159 Yeah, yeah, Well, because I try to think of them 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.760 as scenes. So sometimes not every word matters to me 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.160 in an animated capacity, Like I really like to hit 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.560 the core points to like, if you're listening to the story, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.000 what's gonna like get you through that? So even talking 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.879 over like many people talking. Actually, at least early on 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.080 in my QLs, like before I really had a voice 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:31.760 and I was just sort. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:32.240 Of a feeling guy. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.000 I'm like that taught me how to animate more than 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.320 one person talking at the same time, which it sounds 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.000 free well, but it sounds like a bad challenge. But 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.879 for me, it taught me like, Okay, how do I 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.359 pick out these two different rhythms happening, find the words 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.160 that matter for each one of them, and then show 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.320 that they're coming from different people, And that could be 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.679 anything from one person's words or in one corner, one 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.760 person's words are white, an other it's in black. Like 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.960 there's a lot of ways to tackle that stuff, but 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.760 kind of when you reframe everything as an interesting puzzle 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.240 in your mind, there is no imperfect clip for me 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.760 in that every clip will be a different challenge. But 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.119 I guess if there's something that makes a good clip 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.840 in my mind, it's something that is actionably visible like 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.040 if somebody's talking super abstract. A good example is like 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.320 synaestigia is a common topic just because it's this sort 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.960