1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Quest Love Show is a production of iHeart Radio. All right, 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: So just came to my attension that not only do 3 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: we not have a kind of an umbrella title for 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: what this is, but I don't even know what these 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: quikies are called. Are these called quest Love quikies or 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: not Quest Love Quickies? Why we're all adults here? 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Does everybody who listens to this show have a gutter mind? 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: Is that what you're afraid? Yeah? Pretty much, we do, 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: we do, all right? So, uh, of course I'm here 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: with new family member, opened my eagle. I am in 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: the family, our fearless leader, our silent leader. You know. 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that people have given me a 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: lot of great feedback on are the kind of the 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: anime shorts that sort of advertise who comes here. And 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of been like a long running tradition here 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: at q LS, and we thought, hey, why don't we 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: shed some light, give more flowers to the people behind 18 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: the scenes. And one of such one such person is 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 1: our animator of those great shorts to those audio clips 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: that we do. Nick Peloe, did I say it right? 21 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: You said it perfectly. 22 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: Literally When I said the name, I'd literally imagined me 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: like Crossing Cherriots of Fire, Nick Peloe, how are you? 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: We're great, great, we're great. Well, we're doing Yeah, we're great, 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: and we're well. Yeah, So let's not just jump into 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the business all. 28 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: Where are you from? How am I from? That's a 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: that's a question. 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm from a lot of places now because I've kind 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: of jumped around a lot. I'm initially from James Down, 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: New York area, Cassadega, New York, little tiny town of 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: like six hundred people. I'm not supposed to be here. 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be there like fishing or something. Whatever 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: they're doing there, shout out to them. But yeah, I've 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: been everywhere. I've jumped to Pittsburgh for like six years 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 4: through college and working in the news there. I worked 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: at a haunted house there. I went to New York, 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: did more news there, comedy and stuff. 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Wait, since we have to Pittsburgh residents here? Oh yeah, 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: when is the actual proper time to use the word 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Yin's because I've been trying to connect with people, but 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like people trying to say. 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: Join sure, So I say talk about high pressure as 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: a as a non resident there, I can give you 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: my best shot and Jake will give me a thumbs up. 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: What exact a use? 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: It's like a you ones is the source of it, 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: but it doesn't it I know what it sounds. 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, but wait, that's the origin. I did 51 00:02:59,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: not know. 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: That's at least where like the fanatics I think come from. 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: But it's a it's a y'all. It's so it's our 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: uns going downtown to see the stillers or you know whatever. 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it has to start with you. I didn't 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: know I was using yen's almost as a yeo instead of. 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you could use it as like a y'all, 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: but I think that's so. I think you wouldn't be 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: incorrect and that it's. 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: Just uhn yeah. 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: Usually it's like a question that sounds like a statements 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 4: went to Walmart kind of a thing. 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: But like, I don't know that's about. 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: Okay, because we're both from Pennsylvania. I want to know, Okay, 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: so what is inside of this control? 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: The word won't catch the double D from me, butter 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: is that where we're are we going to? 68 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: I don't say water, but like I know Woter. I'm 69 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: a water. 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Guy, Okay, I think I say water water. Do I 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: sound like a Philadelphian's is it? Yeah? Okay, so yeah, 72 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: because because whatater I s? Yeah? Water? Got it? 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a water guy. 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: But we also grew up in like a very enunsative 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: family that famously, if we were baby talked, were precocious children. 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: Like my older brother had a famous line of an 77 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: uncle was like you want some wal wine, as a 78 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: baby was like water, I want water. And that's how 79 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: we were. We were all raised like super enunciate and 80 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: then like. 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not talk baby talk to kids. Yeah, 82 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I talked them as adults. 83 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the best way to talk to just about anybody. 84 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: I'm a new dog dad, and I can't be really okay, 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: how old you? This dog just turned five, but I 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: came in around two years old as the dad. So 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: I'm getting used to us sometimes doing a little bit 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: of like hey, boody, but I'm just kind of a hey, 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: what's up guy? No matter who it is, I talk. 90 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: To your dog like a like a guy, like a person. 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: I'd say like seventy five percent of the time, and 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: then I like I'm softening. 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: Up to the rest. 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: I was told I was very mean spirited. 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, just to make a cold or straight up. 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you know he's in sort of territorial 97 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: marking mood a right, And I'm coming from motherfucker that 98 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: said sheep's getting rugg You just did that. 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: On okay, so that makes sense. Dollars when they ship 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: places they're not supposed to. 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: Ah. Yeah, you know, this dog knows what he's doing. 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: And that's the thing like his territorials situation, very very 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: jealous of, you know, the closeness of you know, me 104 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: and his mom's Okay. 105 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: See, I've actually taken over as like the source of attention. 106 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: But I'm like a reluctant leader. So I get a 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: lot of like dog laying on my chest trying to 108 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: get in my face, and I'm like, go do this 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: with your mom. 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: She wants this. He did? You used it with snacks? 111 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: A couple snacks, yea too many? 112 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I get his respect now because he knows that 113 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: I will sneak him snacks too. 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: I'm curious. You said you worked at a haunted house. 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: You said real fast. 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: So I was at the place called the Scarehouse in 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh for like all six years. I was in Pittsburgh, 118 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: and I was like, through my college job wasn't building 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: sets and stuff. 120 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: And this actually leads. 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: Well into kind of what we want to talk about 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 4: with animation stuff, because this is like i'd say, big 123 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: budget place, like you think of like a big hunted 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: house with lines around the blocks and stuff. But we 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 4: worked on it all year, even though we're only opened 126 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: for two years. 127 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: It's since closed down. 128 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: But it was in Etna, Pennsylvania, and I was a 129 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: line actor as like a silent scary rabbit, and I 130 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: would just like, boy. 131 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Let me know about this. So what is the process 132 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: of how does one choreograph working at a hornet house? 133 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: So it was largely in an improvised situation. I would say, 134 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: like as far as being an actor there, I was 135 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: in my places there because I was someone who could 136 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: wing it. Like I started as scary and then eventually 137 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: when you can't talk for long enough in front of 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: the same people, you're not scary anymore. So then you 139 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: just default to dancing because you're in a mascot costume. 140 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: So there was like a dance off with Chris Brown 141 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: at one point when he rolled through with this tour bus. 142 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: There was a dance off with him that I did. 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Not win, But how's that happening? Don't know? For me? 144 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: That was you know, there's I found that my career, 145 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: as many are. You're you're in like a maybe relatively 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: small situation, something awesome happens. You go, this is the 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: best it's gonna get right, and you go, great, that's 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: that's crazy that that happened to me. And when you 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: don't expect anything to happen to you, you don't expect 150 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: it to keep swinging up and be bigger spikes. 151 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: But that to me was like the first like, what 152 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: the hell? 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: I guess I did something interesting. 154 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: What's the other side of that coin? Because my experiences 155 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: with hornet houses, okay, usually some form of pugilism is 156 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: going to go down where somebody might get hit, well 157 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: at least out of shot, sure shot, you know that 158 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: sort of thing. 159 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: I think, uh, And it's uh, for good reason, a 160 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: fairly common question for haunted house actors, because I think 161 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 4: that there is some press around the idea that not press, 162 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: but people when they're scared do do that, and it 163 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: has happened. 164 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, how many punches do you go through 165 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: a whek? 166 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: I think I only got hit once. Oh no. 167 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: The only physicality I ran into was like usually the 168 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: younger the person and the like. But honestly, like security 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: and stuff like, they pull those people who are going 170 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: to do that out way before they get anywhere inside. 171 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: If you have like a two hour line and you're 172 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: wasted and you're already gonna get physical with an actor, yeah, 173 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: you're gonna do that to me in the lines instead 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: of somebody inside. Because like, there's people who grab, there's 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: people who like, especially when you're dressed like a mascot, 176 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: are like, hey, let's take a photo and I'm gonna 177 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: do whatever I want to because you're not a person, 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: You're a rabbit. 179 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: So you get a lot of that. 180 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: But I was the person to weed those people out 181 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: and say, hey, security before they get in, like, no, 182 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: go Like. 183 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Are you guys as a cast allowed to have physical 184 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: interaction with us? We just can't touch you guys. 185 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 4: So what's interesting is no in the upstairs, But at 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: least at that place at the time, we had another 187 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: We had basically two different things you'd go to. There 188 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: was the scarehouse upstairs, and then there was the basement 189 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: down stairs, and there you could sign a release to 190 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 4: be touched. And I did work down there a bit, 191 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 4: and you run into a lot of people where you're like, 192 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna put my hand near your throat and they 193 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: like sort of like sign permission, they sign away, where you're, oh, 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: you're not here to get scared. 195 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: This is more. 196 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: That's the thing is working in there for just a set, 197 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: Like I only did a little bit down there, and 198 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: you could tell it's a very different demographic of people 199 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: who were looking for that. And then upstairs nobody wants that, 200 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: so we all agree it's not going to happen. It's 201 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: sort of the unwritten contract of the haunted House. 202 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: See. I didn't even think about this part only because 203 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: do you know what Sleep No More? Is? From New York? Yeah, 204 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: at one point, you know, and they'll do like different 205 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: iterations of it, but at one point they would literally 206 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: take your date hostage. Like there's one time where I 207 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: had to literally look for my date again because they 208 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: took it. Do you know what Sleep No More? Yeah, 209 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: it's like an abandoned hotel with five floors, and it's 210 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: really a play because they're a playbook that comes with it, playbill, 211 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: but it's you don't know it yet. But you're figuring 212 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: out what it is. The first time I did it, 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I was on the set of Hamlet. 214 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: And what you're doing is you walk into this sort 215 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: of what was the film who directed the Shining Kubrick's 216 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: last movie with as Well Shut Yeah, Like, so you 217 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: put a mask on, and anyone without a mask is 218 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: in the play. So you just followed them and you 219 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: look at their action and then this is a two 220 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: hour thing and sometimes they might take you hostage. Yeah. 221 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: I got kidnapped twice. When I went one. There was 222 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: this woman who brought me into a room and wrapped 223 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: me in a blanket and started coughing up screws onto 224 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: my chest. 225 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: Wait, coughing up what screws? Like? 226 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: Metal? 227 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: Metal screws. 228 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Screws. 229 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: I started coughing up screws and sting on my chest. 230 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Dude, you pay for this wait fun time. See, I 231 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: would have rather had that experience twice. When I got caught, 232 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: I got taken to a room, locked, and I think 233 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: to this day this person went rogue. She decided she 234 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: was going to sing to me one of the songs 235 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: off of her new record. Oh yeah, there was like 236 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: a piano in there, but you know, she didn't character 237 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: and now I will serenate you with the you know, 238 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I will summon the demons of the sonic sound. And 239 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: then like I was like, this sounds like Alusia keys 240 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: want to be like it sounds like a contemporary song. 241 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: So took you right out. 242 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: This is when I realized, like, oh, they're going rogue now, 243 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: just like she's my chance to get him. Yeah, when 244 00:11:48,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: it happened a second time, and then I just stopped going. So, 245 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: so how do graphics enter the picture? Like? What did you? So? 246 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: Art was always the thing. My mother was very supportive 247 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 4: because she drew in high school and stuff and never 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 4: really did anything with it, had kids right away and 249 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: just sort of there was never a big what if 250 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: for her, but it was for her. She was happy 251 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: with the kids, and my what if was like I 252 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: wish she would have pushed further. And so we lost 253 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: her a year ago and said a big theme to 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: my entire career has been sort of like, look, ma, 255 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: we did it. So every single step is like a 256 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: look mam, we did it. 257 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: We did it. 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: And so I leaned into the validation of the drawing 259 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: on the fridge, and then through college went to a 260 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: graphic design and then ended up at Pittsburgh News station, 261 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: the NBC station there, which was actually I was there. 262 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: It would have been during the Tonight Show transition, so 263 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: we were working with like a lot of marketing materials 264 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: for that launch and stuff, and I was already animating 265 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: there and then I was like, hard gonna quit. And 266 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta try comedy because it's what 267 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: I wanted to do on the other side of everything. 268 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: And then yeah, and since you can't do everything, you 269 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: gotta pick one thing. I was like, all right, I'm 270 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: gonna quit this and I'm going to New York and ye, well, 271 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: we're at. 272 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: The table where people do all the stuff challenge excepted. 273 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: So when I moved to New York, I was like, 274 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm done with the news. I'm done not necessarily with 275 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: like art in general, but like the commercial side of marketing. 276 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm good on. 277 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna do advertising. And then I needed a 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: job in New York and couldn't find one, and I 279 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: went back to those golden handcuffs and I got a 280 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: job at CBS News at the network level there, and 281 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: I was there for several years and we're still doing 282 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: news there back then, so that was like interesting, but 283 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: like it was a lot of looking at people on 284 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: the cameras and going, I'm too. 285 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: Close to this. 286 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: It's upsetting me. I gotta try stuff. So I finally 287 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: did some stand up in improv in New York at 288 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: EUCB and did some interesting shows that way. But like, 289 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: ultimately I found that I was sort of chasing a 290 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: little bit of Oh, if I'm good at it, I 291 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: should do it, because it feels good to be good 292 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: at stuff. And only once I freed myself from the 293 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: news there was I like, Okay, I'm going to take 294 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: a real swing at figuring out who I am creatively. 295 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: And that was the LA move is like I had 296 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: to get away from New York to get away from 297 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: the job that kept calling and I, you know, overnight shifts. 298 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: Hey it's two am. 299 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: Can you come in? And I'm like, I need the money, Okay, 300 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: I had I moved away. I just moved away from it. 301 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: And then I came here in September twenty nineteen, right 302 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: before the pandemic, and I was just kind of sitting 303 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: around figuring out what the world's going to be like. 304 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: And then I was already doing animation for like general 305 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: advertising stuff just. 306 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: Out of necessity. 307 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: And I got a call from somebody years back who 308 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: was looking for a fill in for this show, the 309 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: old show. They just needed like a one off person 310 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: to animate something. It was a very basic clip and 311 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: I got sort of integrated here through there. That's a 312 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: short long version. 313 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: But when you. 314 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: Animate a clip for this show, do you just get 315 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: a clip? Do you listen to the entire interview? 316 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Like? 317 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: How does that party? 318 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: A process? For sure? 319 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: So I think every single episode for me is entirely 320 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: different process. Even like at his core, I do the 321 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: same thing on the final day, which is put it 322 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: all together. But depending on timelines of like when you 323 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: guys record versus when stuff is edited, when there's a 324 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: clip selected, I usually have a q of these, where 325 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: like my process starts with research. It's a whole day 326 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: of just absorbing that person, whether I know them or not. 327 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: I go into every nook and cranny I can listening 328 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: to albums, watching movies, going through eBay to find weird photos, 329 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: and those deep dives for me are sort of how 330 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: I if you're familiar with Mega Man the video game, 331 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, uh, I like to think of it sort 332 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: of like I'm collecting pieces from every project I do. 333 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: Like so some of the things I could talk about. 334 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: We even did day La Soul Animations together a couple 335 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: of years ago. 336 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh for the tribute. Yeah that was you, that was me. Wow. 337 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: So we've been at this longer than it feels like, 338 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: even because this new iteration is, like I think, a 339 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: pretty exciting, like there's some momentum behind like what we're 340 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: doing creatively with it, so it's like a little different. 341 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: But even back then, like dal La Soul, I was 342 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: working only black and white as an artist because I 343 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: was going through a broody thing and then there was 344 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: all this day glow color in my life and I'm 345 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: back to designing with color. That's what I got from 346 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: that project. So like I'm absorbing as much as I 347 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: can from every single person that I sometimes listen to 348 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: the person that trained somebody that I'm talking about, and 349 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: it I just want to know who influences them. So 350 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: my drawings are influenced by all the people they're influenced by. 351 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: So it goes really deep for some people. And if 352 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: it's a clip that's meant to be kind of easy, 353 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: breezy and not get too deep, sometimes it's a little 354 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: more illustrative and storytelling, But the trick is to get 355 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: the assignment figure out. Am I making the guests look good? 356 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: Am I making the show look like a cool place 357 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: to be. Am I making am I reinforcing the brand 358 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: that this is a place where a magical new thing 359 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: can come out for somebody we already know everything about. 360 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: I don't have to deep dive everybody. If we already 361 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: know everything about that person. 362 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: It's almost like job training or HR. How can I 363 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: make your life easier? Let you see yourself for five years, 364 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean, well when I okay, so especially like ten 365 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: years of doing this, I'm you know, absolutely aware when 366 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: I feel as though there's gonna be a highlight clip 367 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: story that they're telling, like they're you know, it's a 368 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: good beginning, good end. They're getting to the point in 369 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: less than a minute. And you know, previously I would 370 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: say like we were unaware of how we talked on 371 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: top of each other and those things and missing words 372 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But like generally, well, of course, 373 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: I guess you could say the less words the better, 374 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: or well, I because you're doing words and actions. 375 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well, because I try to think of them 376 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: as scenes. So sometimes not every word matters to me 377 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 4: in an animated capacity, Like I really like to hit 378 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: the core points to like, if you're listening to the story, 379 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: what's gonna like get you through that? So even talking 380 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: over like many people talking. Actually, at least early on 381 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: in my QLs, like before I really had a voice 382 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: and I was just sort. 383 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: Of a feeling guy. 384 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: I'm like that taught me how to animate more than 385 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: one person talking at the same time, which it sounds 386 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: free well, but it sounds like a bad challenge. But 387 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: for me, it taught me like, Okay, how do I 388 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: pick out these two different rhythms happening, find the words 389 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: that matter for each one of them, and then show 390 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: that they're coming from different people, And that could be 391 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: anything from one person's words or in one corner, one 392 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: person's words are white, an other it's in black. Like 393 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: there's a lot of ways to tackle that stuff, but 394 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: kind of when you reframe everything as an interesting puzzle 395 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: in your mind, there is no imperfect clip for me 396 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: in that every clip will be a different challenge. But 397 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: I guess if there's something that makes a good clip 398 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: in my mind, it's something that is actionably visible like 399 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: if somebody's talking super abstract. A good example is like 400 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: synaestigia is a common topic just because it's this sort 401 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: of mystical thing people don't understand but they feel and 402 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 4: then try to talk about it. Right, Synastigia is interesting 403 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 4: because how do you show somebody feeling a color while 404 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 4: listening to music? And for me, that's a puzzle I'm 405 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: working on right now on a clip. And the answer 406 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: to that is, don't go that deep with it. Instead, 407 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: put on a show with color, right Like, that is 408 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: the actionable thing here, is like if I can't show 409 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: you what they're feeling, I might try and show the 410 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 4: viewer what that might be like, right, like, how do 411 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 4: I illustrate using a lot of rich colors that like 412 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: are a motive but not literal to like. 413 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: Blue is jazz? 414 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: So I think anything that's actionable, like a good story 415 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: that's physical, like we did the Princes animation of him 416 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 4: getting like uh owned in basketball, owned in all sports. 417 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: A clip like that, I know exactly what to do 418 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: because it's a really easy directive and it's fun to see. 419 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: And then some things, if it's just somebody about their 420 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: life journey and it's an if the important thing about 421 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 4: that clip is the audio and not the visual, then 422 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: it's my job to back off and make sure that 423 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: that's what shines and not me the animator. 424 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: So there are. 425 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: Really cool, actionable things, but I also love a nice 426 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: heady like they didn't really say anything except for show 427 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: us who they are. That's a great clip to me too, 428 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: It's just a different way of animating. 429 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: Well, you haven't heard all of these interviews with all 430 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: of these amazing people. Sure of all of these years 431 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: and you being a creative person yourself and hear from 432 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: all these other brilliant creatives, what do you think has 433 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: been the most impactful takeaway for you? 434 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: It's a great question. 435 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: I think with these interviews, I'm not gonna say that 436 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: there's one line from any one interview where I was like, damn, well, 437 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: I've had that many times. But it's I'm also listening 438 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: to people who have a wealth of knowledge that I'm 439 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 4: so not disconnected from. But like, the institutional knowledge is 440 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: so rich that I can only pull small parallels out 441 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: of people's journeys where I go, oh, they did that too, 442 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: or oh okay, Like I guess if I'm going to 443 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: pull a recent one out of memory mono neon and 444 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 4: just self doubt as an artist, just being in your 445 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: own head and not getting in your own way right, Like, I. 446 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Got admit for that one because I've never had a 447 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: conversation with them before. In my mind, I already knew, 448 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: like part of me was like, man, like his is 449 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: gonna be so triviy out. So it's kind of jarring 450 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: for me to see him in such a weird space 451 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: of sure, like oh there's there's a little person that's 452 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: behind the Wizard of Oz thing, which I mean actually 453 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: made it more endearing based on the comments. Sure, but yeah, 454 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: walking into that interview, I thought, man, the graphics on 455 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: this thing is just going to be like absolutely out 456 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: out of its mind. 457 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: Honestly, when I was told we were doing him, because 458 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: I'll do like a little preview. If I know who 459 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: the person is, I'll still do like a short preview. 460 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: If if I'm not so familiar, I'll do a bigger 461 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: deep dive, even before I hear in the audio or anything, 462 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: just to familiarize with him. Looking into his world, I went, 463 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 4: this is gonna be a fun place to play. And 464 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: then I got a clip with some self doubt and it. 465 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: I went, this isn't this isn't the bright thing. But 466 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 4: it ended up working great because no, no, no, it 467 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 4: worked great because as an artist, hearing that, I go, oh, 468 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 4: this dude that I'm looking at and going, oh, I 469 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 4: love his vibe. I wish his vibe was my vibe. 470 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: Like seeing that and it's an incredible Basi's funky, like 471 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: I just his by the way, I should just say, 472 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 4: like I've been listening to him NonStop since, like it 473 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: totally absorbed him into my world because I not just 474 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 4: but like just diving into like everything about him. So 475 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: seeing a guy like that that, I'm going like, oh, 476 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: this guy has it all. And then just hearing myself, 477 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would be in this room 478 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: right now if without that interview of hearing you guys 479 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 4: say like, oh man, you gotta like show up for yourself, 480 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: Like I might have been afraid to come here and 481 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 4: talk to you guys in the same way. But I 482 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: did literally thought about Mono neon and going, don't get 483 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: in your own way, man, Like, if somebody's offering you 484 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: a place to talk, you should come and talk like 485 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: to me. That to me, maybe that's my biggest takeaway 486 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: is like that one was powerful for. 487 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: Me, us working with people from the inside. Thank you 488 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Nick Polo. I feel like we did our due diligence man, 489 00:23:51,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. Muslim shows a production of iHeartRadio