WEBVTT - Big Brotha Is Watching (with Amanda Seales) 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.720 I just bugged Janice, and Janice now made it so 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.680 that I'm I'm an enemy to my own communie. It's 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.520 enemy of the state, but with like a slap like 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:23.480 Chris Red what what what? Just a sillier version of honestly, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.000 a better version, let's disagree, a better version of If 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.440 enemy of the state is just a silly my being, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:38.960 let let me out. I ain't do nothing. My crop 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:51.600 chips in yours are racist money martial man interning stuff. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:59.200 Can't tell me yep, yup, yup, there it is there 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.880 it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.880 of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.360 deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.080 finally work to prove that Kanye is just wearing them 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.039 rain boots everywhere because he is a recent inductee to 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.160 the billionaire class and he's preparing for the impending apocalyptic 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.479 flood which will doom us all that is. That's a fact. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.240 I think that's a pretty solid fact. This nigga is 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:35.120 rainboot Noah Ark prepared for what's coming our way. You 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.800 know who else is prepared? You know who else I 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.160 don't know that she wears rainboots everywhere she goes, but 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.360 she is prepared for all that faces us. She she's 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:49.280 she's my guest. Today's so funny, it's very talented. You 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.160 know her from from her HBO special call I've you know, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.880 and you know her from her Patreon Smart funny and black, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.559 amazing comedian, amazing actress. Please give it up from my guest, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:05.760 miss a Man to see what a doubt you know. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.519 I just realized we didn't mention, like we even say 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:13.480 why we know each other? Oh yeah, well how did we? 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.679 We met? Years ago? In stand up? I met you, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.919 I believe, and correct me if you feel like this 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.520 is not true. I met you, I think during the 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:27.120 stand Up NBC competition the the I think, did you 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.280 in New York? In New York we did the semi 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.920 for Sam, Yes, the same year that Sam did it. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:39.600 And yeah, that's that's when I first met you. Yes, really, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.320 that is the closest I have to a memory. And 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.400 then I think the rest of it all kind of 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:50.440 bleeds together. We're just doing comedy scene and then obviously 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:57.480 insecure sort of like uh, you know, yeah, huh, You're 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.519 staring up at the sky as if to say bullshit, 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:05.200 I don't. It's not just that first of all, that 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.919 seems like that was another existence, you know, I mean, 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.640 aside from the fact that we've been in a pandemic 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.040 that literally feels like what was that my life? Yeah, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:19.360 I gotta look at my journals. Yes, I mean for 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.440 for the people that are unaware of what Stand Up 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.440 NBC is, It was the diversity program that NBC was 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.680 putting together to get like black voices and diverse voices 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.440 added to the community. But then they made a bunch 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:37.880 of niggas stand in line overnight so that they could 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.640 then audition for a minute in front of mostly white people. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.960 So it was because then it got changed to diversity 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.520 end inclusion. Yea. Then it was like, it's not enough 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.120 for it to be black folks. You can be white 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.400 and gay. That's fine, right, Oh, y'all can sit in 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.560 a tent and uh wait to to try your best 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.000 in front of these people who don't really watch stand yeah, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.320 yeah yeah. And then you do a semifinal in front 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.080 of a bunch more people don't really watch stand up. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.600 And I remember the person who like won the night 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.080 per se was a sister, but all her jokes were 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:21.080 like can you believe black people do this? And I 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:26.160 remember being like, wow, I hate this a lot, doing 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.520 like a generic African accent. She you know what if 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.640 I recall she had made a joke that was like 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.800 my dad is like mufassa or something like that, and 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.760 I was like, do do that? Come on, now, that's 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:44.599 not the African animals you canna anyway? So well, you know, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.720 and here we are, here we are, but you're here 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.919 today and I couldn't be more excited because you came. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.039 I think with the conspiracy theory that's been sitting on 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.040 our plate for a while, untouched, I think you are 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.520 the first to want to take on such a haunting task, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.599 I guess. And you said, my mama told me all 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:15.560 of your technology is watching you. You know. I dated 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.960 somebody actually who was on Secure and he would not 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:25.480 converse in the room where A t like he felt 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:30.200 like the TV was always watching you. WHOA the TV? 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:37.919 Anything with a screen, he felt like it was watching you. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.680 And the camera wasn't a factor here. It was the 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.320 screen that was more essential. It started with the camera 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.960 and I was like sure, right, and then it became 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:55.080 the mic on the phone, right, So I was like, okay, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.040 and then it became the computer, and then it became 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.760 the TV. And then I was like, are you paranoid schizophrenic? 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.520 Because this is like real because I had I had 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.920 dated recipes down, but like I had dated a brother 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:10.880 in college who like he had started similar rhetoric and 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.600 I told his dad and his dad was like, o't 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.040 like the way that sounds. And it turned out that 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.480 he ended up having a like catch a break and 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.000 he was a parent of a schizophrenic. And it was 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:21.280 it started with me saying to him, what up and 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:27.400 he would he would respond chilling like the fens al right, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.760 well wait a minute, because that's just a good answer, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.880 you know. That's what I thought. That's what I thought, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:40.760 And then what do you want him? And I just 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.919 thought it was like a quippy like maybe it was 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.080 a rap lyric that I didn't know. And then we 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.280 were like on the train one time, going like the 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:50.919 first time we took the train to the city for 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.159 like a date, because when we went to school at 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.960 Suny Purchase and we took the train into the city 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.240 and he was like, I started saying something and he 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:04.680 was like, they're listening, but you know what. It really 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.040 is a testament to black women because I was just like, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:12.120 all right, so he doesn't like talking on the train, right, Okay, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.040 that's now I understand. Now I know him a little better. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.480 He let me in. Yeah, I'm gonna support my my 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.880 quiet trained king. You know what I mean. I'm a 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.320 I'm a whole in down because because we ain't gonna 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.120 do that on the train. So these things I feel 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:33.000 like I'm not fully committed. Yeah, they were amount around 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.080 me enough to where I just have a you know, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.640 there is a residual awareness of like is that you 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.760 watching me? Yeah? So would you say then that that 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.520 individual that you dated was the first person to at 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.200 least introduce this concept to you or were you like 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.960 already you know, pulse finger on the pulse before that 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.480 he was the first to like have empirical evidence, you know, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.000 like he was like he was the first to show 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.120 me like seeing look what just came up in mind? Boone? 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.360 Why is it showing me that? Why is it showing 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.680 me that? And I was like, oh my god, is 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:15.440 it showing And you know, and then like um, people, 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.200 I feel like this conversation happened somewhere else and someone 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.040 had mentioned like, oh, well, if you do this, you know, 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.360 turn off this thing and turn off your mic. Like 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.600 you have to like put your settings a certain way 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:32.200 so that the man, right, you know, don't send the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.600 pale horse to Yeah. Yeah, and hey that's how they 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.559 get that's how they get you. I agree. You you 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.839 do have to track your settings, be aware of of 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.800 sort of what you're allowing into the space. And and 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.160 maybe perhaps they won't be listening. But but two more 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.760 to the point that these people who you who you 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.320 were seeing at a time, we're saying, even with those 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:02.600 setting choices, government still listening. But my thing was like, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.400 so what we're gonna do? You know, what's the what's 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.800 the workaround? Like just honest when we're not on set, 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:16.839 you know, like what yeah, that's always my concern is, like, hey, bro, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.480 not for nothing. We live in l a you know 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.120 what I mean, Like, this is not Montana. And if 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.959 if you're saying let's move to Montana and build fires there, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.839 I can make a choice. But if you are saying 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.839 we are going to continue to live this l a 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.240 ass lifestyle and eat sweet green, well guess what I 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.560 think my phone is just gonna have to hear everything 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.480 I'm saying, yeah, like I just got I just had 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:49.040 to get. I mean I distinctly remember like us like 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:54.160 we had eaten inedible and it turned up. Yeah, the 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.320 paranoia turned up. And he was like, I was like 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.280 holding my phone that are you according me? Are you 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.200 according me? And I was like, no, I'm not recording you. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:09.280 I was, but I was like a fence. This is 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.760 this he was saying something hilarious. I was recording it. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.400 I was like, okay, I'm not I'm not recording you. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.280 And he was like it doesn't matter anyway. There everything, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:23.280 They recording everything. Because that that's when I goes to 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:28.480 another level, is when the person starts addressing Oh I 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.920 know y'all see me. Yeah, I know y'all hear what 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.320 the funk I'm saying, Oh okay, now I see where 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.679 you're feeling. Like this takes the shift from just paranoid 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.600 to a type of psychosis, is that this isn't just 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.320 a person, because like I'll admit, there are plenty of 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.040 times where I'm like, man, this camera still on. I 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.520 know the green Lighting show on, but I think motherfucker's watching. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.040 But I don't I don't go what what do you 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:00.000 work from me? You sick fox? Like I'm not addressing them. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:05.480 I go to bed. I'm like, hey, take a peek. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.040 Did you see something? Say something? You know what I mean. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.840 But at the end of the day, like I mean, okay, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.080 So I just saw that reporters at the Beijing Games 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:24.240 are using burner phones because they don't want to somehow 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.240 have an opportunity for China to put some type of 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.520 tracking device or tracer or copier in their phone when 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.520 they leave, So they're they're using burner phones that they 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.280 can dispose of when they leave. And I'm just like, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.760 it's I didn't know China espionage was really on it 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.120 like that, Like, but I just was like, wow, like 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:50.120 that feels very extreme something. But somebody had to have 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.400 made them feel like this is a matter of national security. Yeah, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.760 to your point, it does. It is concerning, right, if 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.280 nothing else, when you're sitting and looking at a situation 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:07.040 where like a government because obviously I think these journalists 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.719 are functioning at least from some version of direction from 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.559 the American government or whatever they're they're overseeing government is 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.719 to use these burner phones, which means that y'all are 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.760 playing weird government games that like, even if you're not 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.960 doing it to us, you have the potential to do 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.680 it to us, and you're not. You're not saying that, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.080 and that's fucked up because it's it's like when someone 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.920 accuses you of some ship that you wouldn't do and 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.960 it's like, oh, but you would do that, You would 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:40.000 do that, that's why you accuse you would. So they 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.560 like China do that, and it's like, how you know, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.319 y'all already try y'all try to Yeah, y'all doing it. Yeah, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.040 y'all do that to people. And uh, maybe it's not 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.240 the mass public. If if we if we wanted to 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.800 give the government any grace, you know how we love 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:59.280 giving the government. You know why we do it to 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:05.199 feel to ourselves feel better. That's why that Like I 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.800 the other day said when Martin Luther King passed away, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:17.640 and I had to catch myself like right correction, when 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:22.360 he was assassinated, he didn't go out of here without 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.920 you know what I mean, Like this wasn't Yeah, there 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.720 was no he didn't diet on the bed around surrounded 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.080 by his loved ones like he should have. But I 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.680 feel like that was like a Freudian government grace moment. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.440 And I think that that even if we were to 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.959 give them some of that grace, it isn't Maybe you're 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.600 not doing it to everybody, but you're doing it, and 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.080 you have the potential to do it to more people. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:55.760 And that's what makes this paranoia so easily accessible. Well 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.120 remember Wiki leaks, I mean that was the other thing, right, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.720 Like my mom, My mom was very big to wikilis 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:07.920 um like a fan, just a fans, just very involved 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:12.679 in the whole scenario of things. And you know Snowdon 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.600 You know, Snowdon really letting them an it. He's really 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.520 letting them have it. And I was just like, I 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.560 feel like you think you're in on something that other 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.360 people aren't in on. Like that's what always comedy about 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.560 my mom in these situations, like you're getting the same 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.640 information as everyone else. But she's like, so let me 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:34.080 tell you what's happening. You don't have like you're reading it, 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.240 but you're not reading it the way I'm reading it. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.560 So I'll explain it to you. Your dumb ass, I 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.480 got you. I'm just like, you don't have like a 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:50.440 higher security clearance than WikiLeaks. But that was the whole 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.480 real thing that I think set a lot of people off, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.880 you know, the WikiLeaks of it all, because at the 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.360 end of the day, that's what it was. It was 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.720 him realizing that the n s A was tapping people's 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.160 phones and and you know at will right, like, not 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.320 even for just any reason, but just because they had 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.080 created the capability to do so, and they were just 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.160 playing around. And in that case, just so that we're 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.480 making it clear, the n s A was tapping preferred phones, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.040 they weren't tapping all phones. At least that's the argument 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:27.160 that's being made, or at least Snowdon's argument, which is 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.720 always the source of truth. Okay, So then the way 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.200 I understood it was that what makes it a preferred phone, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.040 whatever they decide, is a reason for them to need 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.200 to hear your ship, which is dangerous, right because at 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.400 the end of the day, their decision making is it's 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.000 a person still making. If they don't like something I've said, 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.560 or are uncomfortable with a choice I've made publicly, they 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.000 can start to tap my phone under the guise of 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:59.360 protecting American civilians, when in fact I might just be 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:07.040 annoying to a lady in an office I'm just picturing 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:12.840 that film like where someone gets arrested and like thrown 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.520 in the back of a black van because they were 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.520 thought to be dangerous. And they're just the office prick, 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.960 but not even pricked the office twerk like they're just 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.640 they just they just said the wrong words in order. Right, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.960 Let me ask you this before we go to break you. 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.080 You said you are not all in on this conspiracy theory. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.440 You're not fully invested. Tell me help me get a 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.440 where you are in it. It's not that I'm not 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.120 fully invested. I think the better way to say is that, 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.800 like I guess in my mind fully invested me as 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:52.240 I'm also like using actions to combat it. Oh, you know, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:57.640 like and I'm just I I think I've just accepted it, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.720 right because I don't genuine they feel I can do 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.280 anything like they have like these VPN things that you 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.760 can put to like stop your IP address, but I 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.000 and I had one like that that like advertised on 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.400 my podcast Small Doses where you can listen to anywhere podocasted. Uh, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.080 we don't do no cross advertisements. No, no cut that 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.840 Olivia cut it, cut it. No, it's fine, but well 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.520 they like where they like advertise on my podcast while 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.040 doses and I was like, Oh, I get to use 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.000 this for a year for free. Great, But then when 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.560 the subscription ran out, it was like, well that's the 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.920 So that's the crazy thing. Even with like these VPNs 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.520 and the other things that you can download to theoretically 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.320 protect yourself from whatever's watching, is you still are paying 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:49.159 a corporation to to access this service. And in theory, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:53.560 that corporation has other corporate friends that they want to 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.560 to provide the information too. So it's like, is this 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.520 protecting me or is that just a slight You know, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.320 when they give you those aluminum covers after you run 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.840 a race. We're like, I don't think that's gonna keep 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.399 me warm. The way y'all saying it is this this 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.920 aeems like bullshit. But when we come back, I want 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.960 to talk about how this also extends to like how 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.639 Facebook was tracing us. Yes, I actually think that's a 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.960 perfect throw for us to to walk out on because 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.560 because as my listeners know, we come back with research, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.479 and I have a fair amount of research. I'd love 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:32.560 to impact with you about Facebook and they're devious choices sucking. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.600 All Right, We're gonna take a break, We'll be back 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.600 with more, am And this feels and more, my mama 0:18:36.640 --> 0:19:02.040 told me, and we all, yeah, we're back here with more. 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.720 Amanda steels more. My mama told me. We're still talking 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:09.359 about the possibility that your technology is watching your ass 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.120 at all times, just listening, checking in on you. Why 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.760 you're you're doing your nasty ship and you know the 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.199 nasty ship that you do person listening at home, you 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.920 know why you're yucky anyway, So tell me a little 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.640 bit about what you know, Amanda, because we left off here, 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:30.960 what you know about the Facebook intrusions. Let's say I 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.560 can't remember the name of the doc, but I had 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:38.920 seen this documentary on Netflix that just, I mean it 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.200 threw me off for like a good two weeks because 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:47.880 it really spoke about the specifically about how these internets 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:54.040 were used to swathe elections, and it was this It 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:58.320 was presented in such a what's the word I'm looking for, 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:04.080 just there was no theory. It was what, yes, social dilemma, Yes, 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.440 thank you, the social dilemma. And it was just very 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.359 matter of fact. This wasn't theoretical, This wasn't like, you know, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.840 we we put things together and it seems like this 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.840 is the case. It was like no, no, yeah, what happened. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.840 This is how it happened, and let's talk about it. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:26.480 And that is when I'm like, oh wow, okay, so 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.080 so I don't so I like help this man get lefted. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.639 So the craziest thing with the social dilemma, to your point, 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.679 is that it's it's sort of being presented by a 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.959 bunch of people who built the algorithms and are like 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.600 in charge of the way that they move and shake, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.480 and so it's not them going like, well we think 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.320 this is a possibility, or like no, no, no no, I 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.600 wrote the code so that this would happen. And I 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.440 would never let my children around any of these sapps. 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.560 It is dangerous ship and we feel real bad about it. 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:09.680 That's why we're talking to you now, directors of said film. 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.440 That right there, when the guy was like, I would 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.480 never let my kids around this, this is I mean, 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.439 we just saw some lady come out and then go 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:22.919 real quiet about how it's proven that like Facebook and 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:28.840 these apps are deleterious to our social structure, to the minds, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:34.520 to mental health, etcetera. And yet we it's an addiction 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:39.240 and they play on that. I am absolutely addicted. Yeah, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.760 and and and we're in a business now that's also 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.439 made it a critical part for a lot of people 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.800 to engage in if they want to be in certain spaces. 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.040 So it's like, even if you aren't addicted, like you 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.600 still have to somehow be a part of it. And 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.440 it's it's it's just it's frustrating. Yeah, no, it's it's 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.400 a it's a gross aim. We're all sort of trapped 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.440 in of being both like we need the thing. I 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.879 need the thing to some extent for people to know 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.960 I exist out in the world as an entertainer. That's 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.080 that is my livelihood to some extent. But then on 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.280 top of that, I feel yucky every time I have 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.280 to access one of these apps and and beg for 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:24.240 attention in these spaces, and even scarier, the attention I'm 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.560 getting or giving might be something I didn't even intend. 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:32.520 Oh man, that's the story of my life. I got 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.040 in trouble the other day of some ship I didn't 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:37.080 even say. I was just there. God said ship, And 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.320 they're like a mad steel was present when this thing 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:45.359 said this ship. And I'm like, God did it? But 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.119 was you having fun? Because that's how you get in trouble. 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:52.520 I was putting on lipstick, I was literally putting out 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.720 lives and I was just talking away and I was like, 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.480 I was like, best of intentions, best of attentions, and 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.000 people are like a seal disgust saying and I'm like, 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.400 if I don't say nothing, how is it discussing? Damn? 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.199 But I think there's really like I mean, so I 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.679 started Patreon because I was trying to find I started Patreon. 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.560 We started a newsletter because I was trying to like 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.560 find ways to extend off of the Instagram of it 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.560 all because I was getting shadow Band. I'm still getting 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.440 shadow band, Like they really just in there. So after 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:27.600 Facebook and Instagram got addressed by I guess Congress about 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.440 their role in stealing people's information and you know, and 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:35.360 really pushing the trump of it all, they now became 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:40.439 like hyper vigilant about I feel like se questions about 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:46.600 like sequestering anything that can influence the direction that folks thinking. 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:50.720 So you're a thought leader, and you like, have I 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.359 want to talk about this? I wanna, I wanna, I 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.879 want to get what's what's it called? I want to 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.719 talk talk Okay, let me let me keep you up 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:04.040 you're ready, You're I'm you know, when you have a 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.120 platform that has a bunch of people on it, you're 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.560 going to of course have people that become thought leaders, 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.959 people that are going to take the truth and you know, 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.040 articulated to the masses through their own opinions. And by 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.720 nature of that, there's gonna be people who start listening. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.879 That's just the way it happens, you know, with Jesus 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.639 and my Mother, It's gonna happen on the app. And 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.439 the frustrating part though, is that these algorithms can't tell 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.879 the difference between who's telling the truth and who is 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:29.960 just telling ship. And so what it does is it 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.920 silence is the folks whose voices actually have to be heard. 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.120 And it's so incredibly frustrating because even when you get 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.160 the actual human beings and these apps, they're so committed 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.359 to the algorithm of it all that they don't even 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.359 have the ability to discern like, oh, this is the truth, 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.879 this isn't. And that's how you have apps that are 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.920 letting people say all niggas must die. They're not shutting 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.080 that down. But when someone says, like, hey, maybe you 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.840 all should get vaccinated, they're like, wrong, information, and it's like, 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.560 how do you create something that's supposed to be for 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.160 social growth but you're shutting down any level of elevation. 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:09.919 M M yeah, it's it's to that point, and I 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.280 think it's an important one for us to address. Even 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:18.520 with the influencing the the elections, right, it truly wasn't 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:24.280 this like crazy infiltration that we sort of built it 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.040