1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: I just bugged Janice, and Janice now made it so 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: that I'm I'm an enemy to my own communie. It's 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: enemy of the state, but with like a slap like 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Chris Red what what what? Just a sillier version of honestly, 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: a better version, let's disagree, a better version of If 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: enemy of the state is just a silly my being, 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: let let me out. I ain't do nothing. My crop 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: chips in yours are racist money martial man interning stuff. 9 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Can't tell me yep, yup, yup, there it is there 10 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode 11 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, 12 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we 13 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: finally work to prove that Kanye is just wearing them 14 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: rain boots everywhere because he is a recent inductee to 15 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the billionaire class and he's preparing for the impending apocalyptic 16 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: flood which will doom us all that is. That's a fact. 17 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty solid fact. This nigga is 18 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: rainboot Noah Ark prepared for what's coming our way. You 19 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: know who else is prepared? You know who else I 20 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: don't know that she wears rainboots everywhere she goes, but 21 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: she is prepared for all that faces us. She she's 22 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: she's my guest. Today's so funny, it's very talented. You 23 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: know her from from her HBO special call I've you know, 24 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: and you know her from her Patreon Smart funny and black, 25 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: amazing comedian, amazing actress. Please give it up from my guest, 26 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: miss a Man to see what a doubt you know. 27 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: I just realized we didn't mention, like we even say 28 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: why we know each other? Oh yeah, well how did we? 29 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: We met? Years ago? In stand up? I met you, 30 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: I believe, and correct me if you feel like this 31 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: is not true. I met you, I think during the 32 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: stand Up NBC competition the the I think, did you 33 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: in New York? In New York we did the semi 34 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: for Sam, Yes, the same year that Sam did it. 35 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's that's when I first met you. Yes, really, 36 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: that is the closest I have to a memory. And 37 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: then I think the rest of it all kind of 38 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: bleeds together. We're just doing comedy scene and then obviously 39 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: insecure sort of like uh, you know, yeah, huh, You're 40 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: staring up at the sky as if to say bullshit, 41 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't. It's not just that first of all, that 42 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: seems like that was another existence, you know, I mean, 43 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: aside from the fact that we've been in a pandemic 44 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that literally feels like what was that my life? Yeah, 45 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: I gotta look at my journals. Yes, I mean for 46 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: for the people that are unaware of what Stand Up 47 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: NBC is, It was the diversity program that NBC was 48 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: putting together to get like black voices and diverse voices 49 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: added to the community. But then they made a bunch 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: of niggas stand in line overnight so that they could 51 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: then audition for a minute in front of mostly white people. 52 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: So it was because then it got changed to diversity 53 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: end inclusion. Yea. Then it was like, it's not enough 54 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: for it to be black folks. You can be white 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: and gay. That's fine, right, Oh, y'all can sit in 56 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: a tent and uh wait to to try your best 57 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: in front of these people who don't really watch stand yeah, 58 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then you do a semifinal in front 59 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: of a bunch more people don't really watch stand up. 60 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And I remember the person who like won the night 61 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: per se was a sister, but all her jokes were 62 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: like can you believe black people do this? And I 63 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: remember being like, wow, I hate this a lot, doing 64 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: like a generic African accent. She you know what if 65 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: I recall she had made a joke that was like 66 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: my dad is like mufassa or something like that, and 67 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: I was like, do do that? Come on, now, that's 68 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: not the African animals you canna anyway? So well, you know, 69 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: and here we are, here we are, but you're here 70 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: today and I couldn't be more excited because you came. 71 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: I think with the conspiracy theory that's been sitting on 72 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: our plate for a while, untouched, I think you are 73 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: the first to want to take on such a haunting task, 74 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: I guess. And you said, my mama told me all 75 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: of your technology is watching you. You know. I dated 76 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: somebody actually who was on Secure and he would not 77 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: converse in the room where A t like he felt 78 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: like the TV was always watching you. WHOA the TV? 79 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: Anything with a screen, he felt like it was watching you. 80 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: And the camera wasn't a factor here. It was the 81 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: screen that was more essential. It started with the camera 82 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: and I was like sure, right, and then it became 83 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: the mic on the phone, right, So I was like, okay, 84 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: and then it became the computer, and then it became 85 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: the TV. And then I was like, are you paranoid schizophrenic? 86 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Because this is like real because I had I had 87 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: dated recipes down, but like I had dated a brother 88 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: in college who like he had started similar rhetoric and 89 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: I told his dad and his dad was like, o't 90 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: like the way that sounds. And it turned out that 91 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: he ended up having a like catch a break and 92 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: he was a parent of a schizophrenic. And it was 93 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: it started with me saying to him, what up and 94 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: he would he would respond chilling like the fens al right, 95 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: well wait a minute, because that's just a good answer, 96 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: you know. That's what I thought. That's what I thought, 97 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: And then what do you want him? And I just 98 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: thought it was like a quippy like maybe it was 99 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: a rap lyric that I didn't know. And then we 100 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: were like on the train one time, going like the 101 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: first time we took the train to the city for 102 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: like a date, because when we went to school at 103 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Suny Purchase and we took the train into the city 104 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: and he was like, I started saying something and he 105 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: was like, they're listening, but you know what. It really 106 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: is a testament to black women because I was just like, 107 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, so he doesn't like talking on the train, right, Okay, 108 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: that's now I understand. Now I know him a little better. 109 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: He let me in. Yeah, I'm gonna support my my 110 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: quiet trained king. You know what I mean. I'm a 111 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm a whole in down because because we ain't gonna 112 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: do that on the train. So these things I feel 113 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: like I'm not fully committed. Yeah, they were amount around 114 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: me enough to where I just have a you know, 115 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: there is a residual awareness of like is that you 116 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: watching me? Yeah? So would you say then that that 117 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: individual that you dated was the first person to at 118 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: least introduce this concept to you or were you like 119 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: already you know, pulse finger on the pulse before that 120 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: he was the first to like have empirical evidence, you know, 121 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: like he was like he was the first to show 122 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: me like seeing look what just came up in mind? Boone? 123 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Why is it showing me that? Why is it showing 124 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: me that? And I was like, oh my god, is 125 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: it showing And you know, and then like um, people, 126 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: I feel like this conversation happened somewhere else and someone 127 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: had mentioned like, oh, well, if you do this, you know, 128 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: turn off this thing and turn off your mic. Like 129 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: you have to like put your settings a certain way 130 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: so that the man, right, you know, don't send the 131 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: pale horse to Yeah. Yeah, and hey that's how they 132 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: get that's how they get you. I agree. You you 133 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: do have to track your settings, be aware of of 134 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: sort of what you're allowing into the space. And and 135 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: maybe perhaps they won't be listening. But but two more 136 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: to the point that these people who you who you 137 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: were seeing at a time, we're saying, even with those 138 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: setting choices, government still listening. But my thing was like, 139 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: so what we're gonna do? You know, what's the what's 140 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the workaround? Like just honest when we're not on set, 141 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: you know, like what yeah, that's always my concern is, like, hey, bro, 142 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: not for nothing. We live in l a you know 143 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, this is not Montana. And if 144 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: if you're saying let's move to Montana and build fires there, 145 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: I can make a choice. But if you are saying 146 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: we are going to continue to live this l a 147 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: ass lifestyle and eat sweet green, well guess what I 148 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: think my phone is just gonna have to hear everything 149 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, like I just got I just had 150 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: to get. I mean I distinctly remember like us like 151 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: we had eaten inedible and it turned up. Yeah, the 152 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: paranoia turned up. And he was like, I was like 153 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: holding my phone that are you according me? Are you 154 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: according me? And I was like, no, I'm not recording you. 155 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I was, but I was like a fence. This is 156 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: this he was saying something hilarious. I was recording it. 157 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm not I'm not recording you. 158 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: And he was like it doesn't matter anyway. There everything, 159 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: They recording everything. Because that that's when I goes to 160 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: another level, is when the person starts addressing Oh I 161 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: know y'all see me. Yeah, I know y'all hear what 162 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: the funk I'm saying, Oh okay, now I see where 163 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: you're feeling. Like this takes the shift from just paranoid 164 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: to a type of psychosis, is that this isn't just 165 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: a person, because like I'll admit, there are plenty of 166 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: times where I'm like, man, this camera still on. I 167 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: know the green Lighting show on, but I think motherfucker's watching. 168 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't go what what do you 169 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: work from me? You sick fox? Like I'm not addressing them. 170 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: I go to bed. I'm like, hey, take a peek. 171 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: Did you see something? Say something? You know what I mean. 172 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like I mean, okay, 173 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: So I just saw that reporters at the Beijing Games 174 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: are using burner phones because they don't want to somehow 175 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: have an opportunity for China to put some type of 176 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: tracking device or tracer or copier in their phone when 177 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: they leave, So they're they're using burner phones that they 178 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: can dispose of when they leave. And I'm just like, 179 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: it's I didn't know China espionage was really on it 180 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: like that, Like, but I just was like, wow, like 181 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: that feels very extreme something. But somebody had to have 182 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: made them feel like this is a matter of national security. Yeah, 183 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: to your point, it does. It is concerning, right, if 184 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: nothing else, when you're sitting and looking at a situation 185 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: where like a government because obviously I think these journalists 186 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: are functioning at least from some version of direction from 187 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: the American government or whatever they're they're overseeing government is 188 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: to use these burner phones, which means that y'all are 189 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: playing weird government games that like, even if you're not 190 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: doing it to us, you have the potential to do 191 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: it to us, and you're not. You're not saying that, 192 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: and that's fucked up because it's it's like when someone 193 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: accuses you of some ship that you wouldn't do and 194 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, but you would do that, You would 195 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: do that, that's why you accuse you would. So they 196 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: like China do that, and it's like, how you know, 197 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: y'all already try y'all try to Yeah, y'all doing it. Yeah, 198 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: y'all do that to people. And uh, maybe it's not 199 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the mass public. If if we if we wanted to 200 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: give the government any grace, you know how we love 201 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: giving the government. You know why we do it to 202 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: feel to ourselves feel better. That's why that Like I 203 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: the other day said when Martin Luther King passed away, 204 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: and I had to catch myself like right correction, when 205 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: he was assassinated, he didn't go out of here without 206 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like this wasn't Yeah, there 207 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: was no he didn't diet on the bed around surrounded 208 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: by his loved ones like he should have. But I 209 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: feel like that was like a Freudian government grace moment. 210 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: And I think that that even if we were to 211 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: give them some of that grace, it isn't Maybe you're 212 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: not doing it to everybody, but you're doing it, and 213 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: you have the potential to do it to more people. 214 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: And that's what makes this paranoia so easily accessible. Well 215 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: remember Wiki leaks, I mean that was the other thing, right, 216 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Like my mom, My mom was very big to wikilis 217 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: um like a fan, just a fans, just very involved 218 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: in the whole scenario of things. And you know Snowdon 219 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, Snowdon really letting them an it. He's really 220 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: letting them have it. And I was just like, I 221 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: feel like you think you're in on something that other 222 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: people aren't in on. Like that's what always comedy about 223 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: my mom in these situations, like you're getting the same 224 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: information as everyone else. But she's like, so let me 225 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: tell you what's happening. You don't have like you're reading it, 226 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: but you're not reading it the way I'm reading it. 227 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: So I'll explain it to you. Your dumb ass, I 228 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: got you. I'm just like, you don't have like a 229 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: higher security clearance than WikiLeaks. But that was the whole 230 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: real thing that I think set a lot of people off, 231 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, the WikiLeaks of it all, because at the 232 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, that's what it was. It was 233 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: him realizing that the n s A was tapping people's 234 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: phones and and you know at will right, like, not 235 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: even for just any reason, but just because they had 236 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: created the capability to do so, and they were just 237 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: playing around. And in that case, just so that we're 238 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: making it clear, the n s A was tapping preferred phones, 239 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: they weren't tapping all phones. At least that's the argument 240 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: that's being made, or at least Snowdon's argument, which is 241 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: always the source of truth. Okay, So then the way 242 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: I understood it was that what makes it a preferred phone, 243 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: whatever they decide, is a reason for them to need 244 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: to hear your ship, which is dangerous, right because at 245 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, their decision making is it's 246 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: a person still making. If they don't like something I've said, 247 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: or are uncomfortable with a choice I've made publicly, they 248 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: can start to tap my phone under the guise of 249 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: protecting American civilians, when in fact I might just be 250 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: annoying to a lady in an office I'm just picturing 251 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: that film like where someone gets arrested and like thrown 252 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: in the back of a black van because they were 253 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: thought to be dangerous. And they're just the office prick, 254 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: but not even pricked the office twerk like they're just 255 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: they just they just said the wrong words in order. Right, 256 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this before we go to break you. 257 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: You said you are not all in on this conspiracy theory. 258 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: You're not fully invested. Tell me help me get a 259 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: where you are in it. It's not that I'm not 260 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: fully invested. I think the better way to say is that, 261 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: like I guess in my mind fully invested me as 262 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm also like using actions to combat it. Oh, you know, 263 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: like and I'm just I I think I've just accepted it, 264 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: right because I don't genuine they feel I can do 265 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: anything like they have like these VPN things that you 266 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: can put to like stop your IP address, but I 267 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: and I had one like that that like advertised on 268 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: my podcast Small Doses where you can listen to anywhere podocasted. Uh, 269 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: we don't do no cross advertisements. No, no cut that 270 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: Olivia cut it, cut it. No, it's fine, but well 271 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: they like where they like advertise on my podcast while 272 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: doses and I was like, Oh, I get to use 273 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: this for a year for free. Great, But then when 274 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: the subscription ran out, it was like, well that's the 275 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: So that's the crazy thing. Even with like these VPNs 276 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: and the other things that you can download to theoretically 277 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: protect yourself from whatever's watching, is you still are paying 278 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: a corporation to to access this service. And in theory, 279 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: that corporation has other corporate friends that they want to 280 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: to provide the information too. So it's like, is this 281 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: protecting me or is that just a slight You know, 282 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: when they give you those aluminum covers after you run 283 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: a race. We're like, I don't think that's gonna keep 284 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: me warm. The way y'all saying it is this this 285 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: aeems like bullshit. But when we come back, I want 286 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: to talk about how this also extends to like how 287 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Facebook was tracing us. Yes, I actually think that's a 288 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: perfect throw for us to to walk out on because 289 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: because as my listeners know, we come back with research, 290 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: and I have a fair amount of research. I'd love 291 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: to impact with you about Facebook and they're devious choices sucking. 292 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take a break, We'll be back 293 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: with more, am And this feels and more, my mama 294 00:18:36,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: told me, and we all, yeah, we're back here with more. 295 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Amanda steels more. My mama told me. We're still talking 296 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: about the possibility that your technology is watching your ass 297 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: at all times, just listening, checking in on you. Why 298 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: you're you're doing your nasty ship and you know the 299 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: nasty ship that you do person listening at home, you 300 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: know why you're yucky anyway, So tell me a little 301 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: bit about what you know, Amanda, because we left off here, 302 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: what you know about the Facebook intrusions. Let's say I 303 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the doc, but I had 304 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: seen this documentary on Netflix that just, I mean it 305 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: threw me off for like a good two weeks because 306 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: it really spoke about the specifically about how these internets 307 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: were used to swathe elections, and it was this It 308 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: was presented in such a what's the word I'm looking for, 309 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: just there was no theory. It was what, yes, social dilemma, Yes, 310 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: thank you, the social dilemma. And it was just very 311 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: matter of fact. This wasn't theoretical, This wasn't like, you know, 312 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: we we put things together and it seems like this 313 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: is the case. It was like no, no, yeah, what happened. 314 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: This is how it happened, and let's talk about it. 315 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: And that is when I'm like, oh wow, okay, so 316 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: so I don't so I like help this man get lefted. 317 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: So the craziest thing with the social dilemma, to your point, 318 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: is that it's it's sort of being presented by a 319 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: bunch of people who built the algorithms and are like 320 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: in charge of the way that they move and shake, 321 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: and so it's not them going like, well we think 322 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: this is a possibility, or like no, no, no no, I 323 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: wrote the code so that this would happen. And I 324 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: would never let my children around any of these sapps. 325 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: It is dangerous ship and we feel real bad about it. 326 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: That's why we're talking to you now, directors of said film. 327 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: That right there, when the guy was like, I would 328 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: never let my kids around this, this is I mean, 329 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: we just saw some lady come out and then go 330 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: real quiet about how it's proven that like Facebook and 331 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: these apps are deleterious to our social structure, to the minds, 332 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: to mental health, etcetera. And yet we it's an addiction 333 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: and they play on that. I am absolutely addicted. Yeah, 334 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: and and and we're in a business now that's also 335 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: made it a critical part for a lot of people 336 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: to engage in if they want to be in certain spaces. 337 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: So it's like, even if you aren't addicted, like you 338 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: still have to somehow be a part of it. And 339 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just it's frustrating. Yeah, no, it's it's 340 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: a it's a gross aim. We're all sort of trapped 341 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: in of being both like we need the thing. I 342 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: need the thing to some extent for people to know 343 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I exist out in the world as an entertainer. That's 344 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: that is my livelihood to some extent. But then on 345 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: top of that, I feel yucky every time I have 346 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: to access one of these apps and and beg for 347 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: attention in these spaces, and even scarier, the attention I'm 348 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: getting or giving might be something I didn't even intend. 349 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's the story of my life. I got 350 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: in trouble the other day of some ship I didn't 351 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: even say. I was just there. God said ship, And 352 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: they're like a mad steel was present when this thing 353 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: said this ship. And I'm like, God did it? But 354 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: was you having fun? Because that's how you get in trouble. 355 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: I was putting on lipstick, I was literally putting out 356 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: lives and I was just talking away and I was like, 357 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: I was like, best of intentions, best of attentions, and 358 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: people are like a seal disgust saying and I'm like, 359 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: if I don't say nothing, how is it discussing? Damn? 360 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: But I think there's really like I mean, so I 361 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: started Patreon because I was trying to find I started Patreon. 362 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: We started a newsletter because I was trying to like 363 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: find ways to extend off of the Instagram of it 364 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: all because I was getting shadow Band. I'm still getting 365 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: shadow band, Like they really just in there. So after 366 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram got addressed by I guess Congress about 367 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: their role in stealing people's information and you know, and 368 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: really pushing the trump of it all, they now became 369 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: like hyper vigilant about I feel like se questions about 370 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: like sequestering anything that can influence the direction that folks thinking. 371 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: So you're a thought leader, and you like, have I 372 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: want to talk about this? I wanna, I wanna, I 373 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: want to get what's what's it called? I want to 374 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: talk talk Okay, let me let me keep you up 375 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: you're ready, You're I'm you know, when you have a 376 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: platform that has a bunch of people on it, you're 377 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: going to of course have people that become thought leaders, 378 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: people that are going to take the truth and you know, 379 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: articulated to the masses through their own opinions. And by 380 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: nature of that, there's gonna be people who start listening. 381 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: That's just the way it happens, you know, with Jesus 382 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: and my Mother, It's gonna happen on the app. And 383 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: the frustrating part though, is that these algorithms can't tell 384 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: the difference between who's telling the truth and who is 385 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: just telling ship. And so what it does is it 386 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: silence is the folks whose voices actually have to be heard. 387 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: And it's so incredibly frustrating because even when you get 388 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: the actual human beings and these apps, they're so committed 389 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: to the algorithm of it all that they don't even 390 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: have the ability to discern like, oh, this is the truth, 391 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: this isn't. And that's how you have apps that are 392 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: letting people say all niggas must die. They're not shutting 393 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: that down. But when someone says, like, hey, maybe you 394 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: all should get vaccinated, they're like, wrong, information, and it's like, 395 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: how do you create something that's supposed to be for 396 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: social growth but you're shutting down any level of elevation. 397 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: M M yeah, it's it's to that point, and I 398 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: think it's an important one for us to address. Even 399 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: with the influencing the the elections, right, it truly wasn't 400 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: this like crazy infiltration that we sort of built it 401 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: up to be. It was just motherfucker's writing some wild 402 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: ship and then people amplifying the wild ship. So it 403 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: wasn't we were susceptible. It's not like they brainwashed us. 404 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: They just showed us wild ship and we were like, 405 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to that wild ship. And so in 406 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: that way, the way that their course correcting is by 407 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: calling everything wild ship and some of it's not wild 408 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: And maybe y'all just need to have more of an 409 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: analytical I I guess in determining like is this honest 410 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: or is this just somebody talking crazy for the sake 411 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: of changing the way that our our government works. So, 412 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: like I use the vaccine example because someone saying, hey, 413 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: maybe you should get vaccinated is to me very benign. 414 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: They're not saying like you need to get vaccinated they're 415 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: not saying you're killing everybody. They're making a suggestion based 416 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: on their opinion. Sure, you should be able to do 417 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: that on your page without them being like, no one 418 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: gets to see your page now. Yeah. But and this 419 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: is this will be a good segue into a lot 420 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: of what I sort of found in the research, is 421 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: that it seems to be born out of corporate interest, 422 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: right that like at the end of the day, when 423 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: there was a point in this pandemic, for example, where 424 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: you said you should get vaccinated, and we all went, yeah, yeah, 425 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: that's that's right. Yeah, And then at some point there 426 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: was a shift where we some people were like, no, 427 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: shut the funk up. And then there was an additional shoot. 428 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: And that's the additional shift where it was like your brainwashed, 429 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: and we all were debating whether or not vaccinations were effective, 430 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: whether or not they made a difference in the way 431 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: that we survived this thing. And and to some extent, 432 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: they are more complicated than they were originally presented, but 433 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: they're not nearly as dangerous as a bunch of people 434 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: want us to believe. But because those people still pay 435 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: for these these lights to stay on, they're going to 436 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: entertain both sides of the argument at all times. So 437 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying is that by nature of the argument 438 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: taking place, that the argument is what helps keep the 439 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: lights on. I'm saying that advertisers don't know the difference 440 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: between an anti vaxer and a pro vaxer, and so 441 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: in that way, they still get paid and they're not 442 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: kicking people off simply because they don't like their language. 443 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny because you have said 444 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: earlier about like how it's like if you want to 445 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: move to Montana and and you know, build fires, and 446 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: that's a round that you can go, and that's how 447 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: it feels like I have to deal with the Internet 448 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: at this point. I feel like Patreon is me trying 449 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: to move to Mantana, Montana, and like, y'all give me 450 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: five dollars so I can build this fire, you know. 451 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: Like I had actually started an app. I had created 452 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: an app during the pandemic called SFB Society for the 453 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: purpose of like let's have a space where there are 454 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: no trolls, let's have a space where people can actually 455 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: have discourse, you know, And and then there was like 456 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: a fight on the app one day when this woman 457 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: was like I will put you ahead to the curb 458 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: and and we were like, yeah, that's against our guidelines. Yeah, 459 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, we can we can do that, baby girl. 460 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: But what we realized I ended up having to close 461 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: down the app because we couldn't. Managing a community is 462 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: way harder than in actuality than I think most people 463 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: really really understand. Like, yes, I think that's a hundred 464 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: percent true. Into that in this I want to segue 465 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: us into some of this research, the the everything I've 466 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: read up to this point, and you take it all 467 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. It maybe real, maybe not real. 468 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Is that they're not listening to everything that we're doing. 469 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Everything I've read, they're not watching everything we're doing. Yes, 470 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't tell you know, Ay'm gonna tell you know 471 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: like that they're gonna say day and listen that that's 472 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: how they get you, because maybe they're not just they're 473 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: just not gonna tell us. Maybe this is this is 474 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: them just being like, no, we wouldn't do that to you, mama, 475 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Why would you even say that? Listen. I had to 476 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: an interview earlier to day as someone was like, you know, 477 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: do you feel like there are black factions that are 478 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: working to like change, Hollywood, etcetera, etcetera, And if so, 479 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: like who are they? And I was like, can tell 480 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: y'all right? And really I should have just said, no, 481 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: there aren't, there are none. Everything is back, you know, like, 482 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: but it's like I don't feel like they would tell 483 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: on themselves. Yeah. So so they they claim that they 484 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: are not watching, they are not listening. Yes, your phone 485 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: is a eyeball. Yes your speakers are ears, but that 486 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: does not necessarily mean that they're listening to everything. And 487 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: part of what they say as justification for that not 488 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: being true is that the the amount of data that 489 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: it would require for them to actually be able to 490 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: listen to everything that you're saying is so insanely large 491 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: that they we don't have the resources to compute. Moreover, 492 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: they say that the computers themselves can't actually make sense 493 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: of the way that human beings speak enough to be 494 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: able to, like, you know, discern when they need to 495 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: turn on and when they But you see what you said, 496 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the computers haven't been able to yet. Yeah, yeah, I 497 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: think that is a key word in all of that. 498 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: They say that because of our our addiction, because of 499 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: our slang, because of all the different ways that that 500 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: human speeches overpacked with innu window and sarcasm. The computers 501 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: have no way of knowing what all of this means. 502 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: But part of the reason that they know that is 503 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: because they keep trying to feed our language two computers 504 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: and be like, figure this ship out, nigga, I want 505 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I want you to know how to talk the way 506 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: I talk, and the computer sounds like the white girl 507 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: that I encountered in two thousand and five at at 508 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: a job I was working at where I was like, yeah, 509 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm by the skate because they said they're gonna bounce 510 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: in a minute. And she was like, why do you 511 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: talk like that? I was like, what do you mean? 512 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: She was like, do you have to talk hip hop 513 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: talk all the time? Can't you speak English? Bitch? You 514 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: know what? Though to that point though, I knew a 515 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: drug dealer who said that, like the amount of slang 516 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: in Detroit was so immense because they were always creating 517 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: language that wouldn't be identified in the tap phone situation 518 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: that you know, Like, so they were they were constantly 519 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: creating just new ways of speaking about elicit activities to 520 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: throw folks off the trail. And that was them just 521 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: trying to throw other human beings off the trail. If 522 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: you create new lingo every single day, the computers aren't 523 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: going to be able to like do the math to 524 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: be able to feed. That's what they're saying. I still 525 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: don't even understand what pushing P means, so I don't 526 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: know how to computer gonna figure that out. It was 527 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: that was an urban dictionary look up for me, And 528 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm not proud to say that out loud. You know, 529 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: you want to be you want to be youthful enough 530 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: that you just like you he You're gonna say it, 531 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, yep, and then you go on with 532 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: your day. But I was like, gonna, I don't know 533 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: what you're saying most of the time. I definitely don't 534 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: know what your Twitter is saying. So I'm gonna, I'm 535 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna look this one up. Someone had left it as 536 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: a comment and I was like, is this a compliment? 537 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, because I'm really into blocking negative comments 538 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: right now, and they were like, that ain't pushing P. 539 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know, this is in support. 540 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I gotta kill you or I mean, 541 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: I just you know, Captain took me forever you know. 542 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's still a part of the lexicon because 543 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: I finally have a grasp. But that's when I knew 544 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: I was old, when I was like, Captain, why isn't 545 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: that rolling off my tusk? It don't feel good. It 546 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: don't feel good as a thirty plus, I'm in the club, bro. 547 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I was trying to be generous. I'm 548 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: sorry for your loss. Made the force be with you. 549 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: So here's the other thing that I thought was useful. 550 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: And this goes back to our Facebook conversation, and it 551 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: really goes back to the grander conversation at hand, right 552 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: is yes, they pent say, or at least this is 553 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: what they claim, is that they're not listening. But there 554 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: is a history to your point about the social dilemma 555 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: of them doing funk shit with these applications. For example, 556 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: Facebook has a history of hiring outside contractors to transcribe 557 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: clips of audio from users on their services. There's another 558 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: thing where they store messages that users wrote out but 559 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: did not post, like some ship that you like kind 560 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: of thought, you might say, and then you backtrack on it. 561 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 1: Facebook saved it and they just have it available. And 562 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: there's a history of ship like this. So when you 563 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: tell me that you're not listening all the time, I 564 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: don't believe you, because you keep doing evil ship in 565 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: other directions. That the part that you just said about 566 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: them keeping drafts, that's trippy. No, no, and let's be clear, 567 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: not even drafts, because drafts you are saving for future use. 568 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: They're saying they saved when you talk type something out, 569 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: so it's an auto save. It's like and you were like, no, no, no, 570 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm better than this. You're not. And Facebook has evidence 571 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: of it forever. Mhm, you know, I think. So we're 572 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: at a time where I feel like people have really 573 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: tapped into their darkness and are like, you know what, 574 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose. I'm gonna choose darkness. Like that feels 575 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: a lot more prevalent than ever in than ever in 576 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: my lived experience, Like I feel like we all have darkness, 577 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: but for most of my life it feels like the 578 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: consensus was, yeah, but that ain't cool, so don't go there, right, 579 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: But now it feels like they're like folks like fucking 580 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm out here, I'm trash, I'm trying, you know, and 581 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: like are just like tapping into that, and it fox 582 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: with my perfectionism because it makes me feel like my 583 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: only counter to that is to try to be like 584 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: a flawless human, which is not possible game to be playing. 585 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: And so when you hear about something like that, you're 586 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: just like, damn, so so they've tracked even what I 587 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: caught myself and did better. But we also know for 588 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: a fact that we are in this crazy scenario of 589 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: a We are in a giant gladiator ring on a 590 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: regular basis where folks are waiting to see like, I 591 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: know you wasn't ship. I knew it. And it's just 592 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: wild to hear that they have like weaponry like that 593 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: against anyone who's used their app. They're app and and 594 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: theoretically maybe they do nothing with this, right, maybe it 595 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: truly is just them like trying to teach a computer speech, 596 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: or maybe it's some thing that even if they didn't 597 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: plan on doing something with, someone might be able to 598 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: hack access I expose you forward your choices, even if 599 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: that wasn't Facebook's plan necessarily, it's all scary ship. It's like, 600 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, when is something When are they going to 601 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: handle your rest all of us and be like here's 602 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: some ship that you did and yeah, Yeah, what's that 603 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: minority report? We ain't that far from whatever that energy is. 604 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: The last thing I'll tell you before we go to 605 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: break is that I I additionally wanted to sort of 606 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: look into that tendency or that thing that happens where 607 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: you talk about something in a room and then suddenly 608 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: your phone is showing you ads for the thing and 609 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: you're like, what the funk? My phone clearly had to 610 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: be listening to me, And they claim that that is 611 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: not the case. That is absolutely the case. There's no 612 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: other there's no world where that's not the case. I'm 613 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you what the 614 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: Internet told me, and you you, you tell me where 615 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: you land in all of this. They actually say that 616 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: because of the way that these ads work and because 617 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: of the way that everything works, it's more a issue 618 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: of probability than it is an issue of them listening, 619 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: that the likelihood of you seeing the thing that you 620 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: were just talking about is one in a million. But 621 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: because they show you so many things all the time, 622 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: and because human beings have a tendency to notice patterns, 623 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: they we create connections that may not necessarily be as 624 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: immediate as we think they are you're already shaking your 625 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: head now because that's light aluminatim So I have my 626 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: body like secret society trying to keep on me like 627 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: that is a complete gaslight, because I like, I could 628 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: see that if it was generic, but it's not like 629 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: there are so for instance, a perfect example is that 630 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: I am now a homeowner. There are so many conversations 631 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: that I'm having for the first time all the time, right, 632 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: like they're not a part of my regular lexicon. Like 633 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: I never said h vat before August onest, two thousand 634 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: and twenty two, two thousand one. So there's no trend 635 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: for the technology to be pulling from to randomly show 636 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: me this conversation around pool solar panels. Sure, however, me 637 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: and my man just had a conversation twenty minutes ago 638 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: about pool solar panels and all of a sudden, so 639 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: it's a gaslight, you know, I mean there, listen, I 640 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: do know, Like you know, you learn a new word 641 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're you hear it and 642 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, coincidence. It's like that word 643 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: may have been being said all the time, but you 644 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: just hadn't you didn't have a consciousness for it, right, 645 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to tell you is happening. No niggas, 646 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: y'all are listening to my conversations around pool solar heaters, 647 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: and I don't fucking like it. Well, what they also 648 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: are saying, and I don't disagree with you, it does 649 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: make me feel like, get the funk out of here. 650 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: But what they're also saying is you notice the pool 651 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: solar panels in your ads or whatever. The pool solar 652 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: panels wasn't there before. Also, then that looks like, all right, 653 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what the white man told me. 654 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: That's how to get you a Hey, I'm just reporting 655 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: back with the white man told me about the Internet 656 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: and the safety of it. If there's one thing the 657 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: white Man good at, it's telling you some ship and 658 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: making it folks be like, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 659 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: The next thing you know, it's it's it's two and 660 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: we got a whole bunch of folks talking about critical 661 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: race theory. That and the ship is a complete farce 662 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: and a lie. Also to that point, I want to 663 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: promote on Showtime Everything's Gonna Be All White. It's a 664 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: docuseries that I'm a part of that basically, over the 665 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: course of several episodes, breaks down conspiracy theories that have 666 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: been create rooted in white supremacy and on my territory. 667 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't get that at all. Hey cut that cut 668 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: that it doesn't make the final cut cutting. But I'm 669 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: really proud to be a part of it because it 670 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: really is making white people is just so upset just 671 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: the trailer. The trailer is making them just so upset. 672 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: They're like the last and that means we've done it right. 673 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: We're doing a lot right, and I'm excited. We're gonna 674 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: take one more break, but I'm excited to come back 675 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: because I have some more information that I'm curious to 676 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: see how this bumps against your your defiance that that 677 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: they are gas lighting us. I'm truly excited. We're gonna 678 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: take another break. We'll be back with more, Amanda Seals 679 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: and more. My mama told me, and we are Kenny 680 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: Lenda Nigga a pencil. Yeah, we're back here with more. 681 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: My mama told me more, Amanda Steals. We're still talking 682 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: about the possibility that your technology is constantly listening to you. 683 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: And I'm very excited, Amanda, because you before we went 684 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: to break, you said, it's complete gas lighting that that 685 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: they're saying they don't need to listen to us. And 686 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: the final piece of research that I thought was really 687 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: essential in this entire conversation and and really sort of 688 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: hammered home. The thing that scares me the most in 689 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: all of this is that the art a few of 690 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: the articles I read said, our tech absolutely is not 691 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: listening to you. It's not recording anything because they don't 692 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: have to. They already have all the information that they 693 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 1: need about you before you've said anything on any phone 694 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: or text any message. It truly, it haunted the funk 695 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: out of me. Basically, they said they know everything about you. 696 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: They know your age, they know your interests, they know 697 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: your locations, they know where your families and friends live. 698 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 1: They have everything that they can gather, and so subsequently 699 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: they don't have to listen to your recent conversations because 700 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: they're constantly sort of doing marketing strategy course corrections analysis 701 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: to to assume that you, a new homeowner moving into 702 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: this place, probably has enough money and enough resources or 703 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: or functionality to be able to think about solar panels 704 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: for your pool. So we will introduce you to solar 705 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: panel adds even if that isn't your ship yet. Well, 706 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: I think there's also the Google of it all, right, 707 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: Like the all it takes is you googling pinky toes 708 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: and now you getting sent a bunch of information about 709 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: foot fetishes. Correct, And he's like, I was not googling 710 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: for that purpose. What they like, why not here's an 711 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: option if you're here and maybe you see that and 712 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: you go, no, I don't like foot and they'll be like, 713 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: all right, I got your big dog, I got how 714 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: about this? How about it? About this? You know, I 715 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: think to be clear, it's like, even if it's not 716 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: the microphone on the phone, even if it's not the 717 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 1: camera on the phone, I'm still disturbed by the Google 718 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: of it all, the traceability of that. You know, Like 719 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: people are like, man, do you should run for office 720 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: one day? And I'm like, I can't run for office 721 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: one day because I utilize porn hub. And porn hub 722 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: will send you a video that says team so and 723 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: so da da da da, And you're like, nah, it's 724 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: already there, and porn up has saved that to your 725 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: favorite's already there. And even though these are eighteen year 726 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: old or nineteen year old whatever, it still looks fucking creepy. 727 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: And I personally am just like whenever you put teen 728 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: in front of it, that's clearly somebody who wants to 729 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: see some ship that is sketchy. But it's like like 730 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: it's a very It's like we are in a fake 731 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: free space. In this Internet. It seems like it's a 732 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: world wide web. It's available, everything is available to you. 733 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: You can be here and you know, find out your 734 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: information is more available to you than it ever has been, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 735 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: But in that they're clocking your every move, yes, and 736 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: they're capitalizing on your every move. And I I've had 737 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: to train myself that even when them cookies come up 738 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: and they're like do you want this track? This apter track? 739 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: At first I was just like I don't want to 740 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: be bothered, like whatever track. Now I'm like no, yeah, 741 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: that first up, and and it's so scary. This this 742 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: will really hammer home exactly what you're saying. Ten years ago, 743 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: and this was ten years ago when our technology was 744 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: fucking iPhone threes. Facebook was mining over five hundred terabytes 745 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: of data a day, a single day, five hundred terabytes 746 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: of data. I am not a technology person, but that 747 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: is like ship tons of people's data every single day, 748 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: and so that means that if you looked up some 749 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: ship ten years ago, they're still holding onto it and 750 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 1: figuring out who you are and who you were based 751 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: on the information they used to have, So they don't 752 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: need to listen to you. Every search you've ever searched 753 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: is being accumulated and strategized against you, and even worse, 754 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: what they The scariest part of all of this is 755 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: these companies have the ability to buy and sell your 756 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: information to each other. So it means that even if 757 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: Facebook is the one that knew that you like feet, 758 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: that also then makes that these other companies now know 759 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: that you like feet, which is why your feet ship 760 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: is coming up from you know, an arbitrary thing that 761 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,479 Speaker 1: you may have liked or or said on a different app. 762 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: Do they have straight flights to Montana? Hey? If you 763 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: lick it up and you start getting it's it's a 764 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: it's a crazy game where basically like your phones don't 765 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: need to listen to to you because they've already got 766 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: a twenty plus year game of telephone going. You know 767 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 1: what I mean, They're just whispering all your secrets back 768 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: and forth. Oh that don't even say, why do you 769 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: put it like that? That just felt real, like I 770 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: was able to see that, And in my mind it's like, 771 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: it's what's his name? Hold on because there's a particular 772 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 1: person who whispers the Yang twins. They had a whole 773 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: song about it. I feel like there's um I like, 774 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: in my mind, I see, looky Stanfield like doing the 775 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: whispering got him. That's that's the person that got in 776 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: my head when I when you said that, him being like, yeah, 777 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: so she google corn on the car. Now what was 778 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: she trying to do with the corn? Look was she 779 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: trying to cook? It? Was trying to make a new 780 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: kind of Molotov cock them? What was she trying to 781 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: do with that? I don't know. Sounds kind of fun 782 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: to me. Yep, let's say that. Let's let's let's all 783 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: go onto that one. I just don't you know, when 784 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: we look at the espionage that was weaponized against our 785 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: civil rights leaders m h and you know, the homegrown 786 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: terrorism that our government enacted upon them, that that is 787 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: where my head goes with all of this stuff. You 788 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: know that, Okay? You know, so it's being used for 789 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: capitalist purposes. That's shitty. But I just feel like we 790 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 1: are in what seems to me to be a very 791 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: impendingly treacherous and violent era in this country. I feel 792 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we are on the brink of a 793 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: another type of McCarthy ism that's going to be around 794 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: race and the speaking. And you know what, let me 795 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: not even say that, it's gonna be around truth, right, 796 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: because that's essentially what they're silencing. It's the truth about 797 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: what this country has been and what white people have 798 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: managed to accomplish by oppressing others. And so it's it's 799 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: only it's only a matter of time to me that this, 800 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: this things that we're discussing become weaponized in a way 801 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: that's I mean, I'm sure it is already, but in 802 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: an even more sinister way that we find ourselves Party two, 803 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: and I'm sure in other countries it already has. Yeah, 804 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think and even in its simplest form, 805 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 1: we we are going to be met with accountability that 806 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: that we didn't earn, right that like if I said 807 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: some ship ten years ago that has now been deemed 808 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: challenging or problematic. Who and when they're they're deciding that 809 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: it is correct or incorrect, is going to be the game, 810 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: right that, Like, Yo, he said this, and maybe it 811 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: is problematic for our day and time, or maybe I'm 812 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: saying something that continues to be accurate, but you've decided, 813 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: based on the sort of like the mass public, that 814 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: it's unacceptable and I'm being punished for it, either by 815 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: being you know, outcasted, or judged or shamed or just 816 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: called a funky ass bitch on the internet. It's truly why, well, 817 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: there's a version. I mean, if if we continue to 818 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: see this trend right where I might even call them 819 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 1: right wing, where these like white supremacist extremists like are 820 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: getting a real stronghold on all facets right, whether it's 821 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: not just it's not just politically but media as well. 822 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: And if we continue to see that grow, then the 823 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: ship that we're talking about that you know, in this 824 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: current climate for a lot of people feels real correct 825 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: and right. You know, it's the people who are in 826 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: power who get to determine what is considered what is 827 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: considered a crime, was considered problematic, what is because you know, 828 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 1: so my whole existence would be considered problematic. Oh yeah, 829 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,399 Speaker 1: you're going to jail and uh, I won't be able 830 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: to stand up with you because all of this is 831 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: gonna be Why listen, it's it's just the same way 832 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: that we look at the fact that lie Nigga is 833 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: really imprisoned for weed right now, while Ashley h and 834 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: Ashley Ce have billboards for their new weed dispensary, and 835 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: it's like they was they picked the right time. The 836 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: ship just swayed, it just changed, it changes, and we 837 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: are not nearly as in charge of the changes as 838 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: we think we are, and subsequently we are much more 839 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: victim than than we care to admit that we we 840 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: might be. This is such a fun conversation. Would you 841 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: believe this was meant to be the closer? This is 842 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: gonna be the end of the combot outside and just 843 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: taking nature? Yeah, well, Amanda, this was I had a 844 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 1: good time. I had a great time. I'm a real 845 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: sick funck though, so I you know, I'll take it 846 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: as I can. This was great. Can you tell the 847 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,720 Speaker 1: people where they can find you and what cool ship 848 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: you have going on? First? I want to say, though, 849 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: that lengthen is always a source of a thought that 850 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: I'll that I never think about. I just remember very 851 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: specifically asking you a question about Michelle Obama. I'm not 852 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: gonna say what the answer was that you gave me, 853 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: but I would like that's probably what I said. Well, 854 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: I was like, why she cool with George? Why cool 855 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: George Bush? Why I remember this convote George Bush? And 856 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: your answer was not was something I had never considered. 857 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: I mean that, and I had considered a lot, you know, 858 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: and you you put another pin on the board, like, 859 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: but have you considered this? So this, you know, is 860 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: the perfect podcast to your askd That's basically what I think. 861 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: That that means the world to me. Um and then 862 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: and let me also just publicly thank langs and for 863 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: always being willing to show up the ship that I 864 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: asked him to do Langston and show up to do 865 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: a sketch. She's like, what time I got to be there? 866 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 1: Back and I'll do it. So everybuddy in black, Yeah, 867 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: what were we doing this in the back of a 868 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: comb book store? No problem? Hey, that was a good 869 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: comic book store. It was a good time. As You 870 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: can check me out on Patreon, dot com, Backslash, Smart, 871 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: Funny and Black. You can also check out my podcast 872 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: Small Doses Everywhere Pods are casted. My book Small Doses 873 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: is also available in stores and on audible. And you know, 874 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: if you don't want to spend any money to check 875 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: me out, you can just still go to Instagram because 876 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm still in the clutches of the man at a 877 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: man at which is the ampersson? Is that theer the 878 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: at sign? Amanda seals you don't want and and Amanda seals, well, 879 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: please go listen to the podcast, read the book Patreon, 880 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: do all the stuff that that you've been instructed to do, 881 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: and as always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman. 882 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: I ain't going nowhere. I'll be on the White Man's 883 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: Instagram forever. Fellow me there, and uh please subscribe, review 884 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: the podcast, do all the stupid stuff that they tell 885 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: you to do for a podcast. Okay, that's enough by 886 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: I crop chips in your pants. Unquali Bears were racist. 887 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: The Ostal players hosted money versions defending turkey stuff I 888 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: can't tell me about