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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. We are joined now by Congressman

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan of Ohio. Congressman A. We're gonna be down

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Speaker 1: at Marrowago one week from today, and I bet we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking with Donald Trump some about this revelations

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Speaker 1: that are coming out in the Durham probe. You've been

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Speaker 1: on top of this for a long time, Congressman and

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Speaker 1: in front of everybody out there who has said Russia

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Speaker 1: collusion is a lie, calling Adam Schiff on all of

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Speaker 1: his bs. What was your reaction to the news that

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Speaker 1: came out on Friday? And thanks for making time with

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Speaker 1: us for us by the way, Yeah, yeah, good be

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Speaker 1: with you. Now. We just confirmed what we all knew

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Speaker 1: that they were in facts buying on President Trump. Looks

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Speaker 1: like now they were doing when When When When Durham's

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Speaker 1: finally mentioned the executive officer of the President. That's the

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Speaker 1: new that's the new thing? Holy cow? Now did that

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Speaker 1: happen during the transition and they were spying owner? Did

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Speaker 1: it happen when he was president? Sure? Seems like it

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Speaker 1: most likely took place while in fact he was president

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Speaker 1: United States. Will have to see. But I think when

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Speaker 1: you view it all in context. In fact, Byron Your's

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Speaker 1: got a great teeth out on this. You view it

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Speaker 1: in contexts. Remember what they did. They first manufactured the dossier.

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Speaker 1: They used the dossier as a basis to go to

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Speaker 1: the file as the court to get a warrant to

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Speaker 1: spile on his campaign, namely Carter Page. They lied to

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Speaker 1: the court because the Klin Smith guy who's been indicted,

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Speaker 1: they lied to the court about information to get that

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Speaker 1: warrant to spile on his campaign. Byron your putting out

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Speaker 1: something that put out some night's forgotten. They used this

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Speaker 1: lady with the alias Azra Turks as a spy to

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Speaker 1: send over to bump into Papadopolis. They sent it, you know,

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Speaker 1: using the trade out of the spy movie straight up

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Speaker 1: James Bond. They used the girl to go talk to Papadopolis.

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Speaker 1: And then now we find out, oh they were they

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Speaker 1: were monitoring Internet traffic and all trying to create, all

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Speaker 1: trying to create in the words of German inference and

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Speaker 1: the narrative. Now you know what we call that. We

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Speaker 1: call that trying to frame somebody, and that is what

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Speaker 1: is scariest of all, trying to frame the president elected

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Speaker 1: to be the commander in chief of our country. That

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Speaker 1: is what is most troubling about all this. Congress and

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Speaker 1: Jordan's buck, thanks for being with us as always. The

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Speaker 1: Durham probe continues on here. Do we have any sense

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Speaker 1: of next steps, expectations for what's coming and ultimately, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is something that came up when I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Clay earlier in the show. I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: our system as it stands right now would bring charges

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Speaker 1: against Hillary or any of the named known people involved

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Speaker 1: in Russia collusion, no matter what is found. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the next steps are going to be like

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Speaker 1: here in the Durham probe? I know you're not a

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Speaker 1: the outside, and do you think that effectively Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: with regard to whether she acted in some capacity as

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Speaker 1: part of all conspiracy, because the Democrat Party just couldn't

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Speaker 1: handle it. Yeah, I don't. I don't know that that's

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Speaker 1: a short answer. Obviously, Durham is being deliberate, Uh, he's

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Speaker 1: this step by step. Um. I do find it hard

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Speaker 1: believe that Zussman hands you know, the information the thumb

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Speaker 1: drive to the Chief Council the FBI, Jim Baker. So

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Speaker 1: he hands it to him, but somehow Baker didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Baker didn't know. I mean it. So they have a

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Speaker 1: But somehow the Chief Council of the FBI doesn't know

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Speaker 1: that Dusman is working for the Clinton campaign at the

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Speaker 1: Perkins Cooey law firm. I find that hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see. So is Jim Baker involved in this?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, but but I find it

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Speaker 1: This is how the Democrats operate. They get information that

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Speaker 1: Here was what the FBI did. So we'll see where

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Speaker 1: gonna have to just wait and let Durham complete the investigation. Jim,

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of got buried in all the

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Speaker 1: But that looks like one of the most significant acts

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Speaker 1: a great point, Clay, and I agree. Remember what Bill

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Speaker 1: Barr said in twenty nineteen when he said there's a

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Speaker 1: concern about that spine and the Democrats all went crazy. Well,

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Speaker 1: because he knew that he saw he saw this Azra

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Speaker 1: think that's why he did this and said, Durham's got

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Speaker 1: And frankly, when I talked with John, he said, this

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Speaker 1: So um, he's not allowed to talk about it. But

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Speaker 1: but the the it was critical that Barr did what

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Speaker 1: complete his investigation because the most important thing in the end,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want people who did wrong, you want

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Speaker 1: But the most important thing is the American people get

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Speaker 1: the full story. That the American people get the truth

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Speaker 1: how bad it is with these unelected people doing things

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Speaker 1: The Canadian trucker protests still going strong. We have Justin

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Speaker 1: And now there's the possibility of civil disobedience against vaccine

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Speaker 1: Isn't that much of a big request? That's what the

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Speaker 1: truckers are asking for. See, what do you think the

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Speaker 1: think I think the American people had it with the

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Speaker 1: so called experts running our lives, and starting with Bautie,

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Speaker 1: think people have had it. You saw it start with

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Speaker 1: we've had it with this, We're gonna do this, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna follow due process and the truth in Kenosha, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: elites tell us what to do, and then the rules

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Speaker 1: And the idea. The other thing I take from this is,

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Speaker 1: Trump simply walked across to Saint John Church and said,

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Speaker 1: But now they're about plodding. Justin Trudeau going after using

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Speaker 1: imposing the Emergency Act in Canada that's only been done.

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Speaker 1: I think one other time in the history of the

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Speaker 1: a covering for the liberal politicians who again imposed the

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Speaker 1: of it. The Bengals obviously in your home state they're playing.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Joe Burrow also a native Ohio

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Speaker 1: None of them are wearing masks. Right, They're flagrantly violating

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Speaker 1: But somehow Donald Trump and Republicans are a threat to democracy.

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Speaker 1: And we learn over the weekend. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they were also spying on President Trump out of the

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping, I am hoping there is a big

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Speaker 1: change coming this November in the midterm election. Jim, Jim,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, congress Congressman Jordan, pardon me.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Jordan, um this fall, what does in the House,

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Speaker 1: what does victory look like, real victory for Republicans? And

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Speaker 1: right now. And what Mark Elias, the same guy who

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Speaker 1: to do and express themselves. Now, I know you're a

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Speaker 1: private league, and I know you have rules, but I

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Speaker 1: think that organically this thing would have figured itself out

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Speaker 1: in some way because you had best friends on teams

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Speaker 1: that disagreed on the topic, and you would see one

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Speaker 1: guy kneeling and his best friends standing next to him

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Speaker 1: with a hand on his shoulder. I'm talking about Derek Carr,

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Speaker 1: who would stand next to guys that were behind you know,

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Speaker 1: we're risk Black Lives Matter, and they would kneel, and

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Speaker 1: he would stand with his hand on their shoulders. He

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Speaker 1: still would listen to the anthem, you have one hand

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Speaker 1: on his heart, the other guys shoulders. This thing would

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Speaker 1: have handled itself and kind of resolved itself or moved

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Speaker 1: on organically without the lead taking a hard stance, And

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Speaker 1: I think that that just spurred it on even more. Michelle.

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Speaker 1: You I was out in LA for the week. I

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Speaker 1: left before the game. You were on the sideline. We

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Speaker 1: opened yesterday show saying whatever your feelings are on COVID

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Speaker 1: to have in LA. Basically seventy thousand people, including virtually

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Speaker 1: every celebrity that they showed on the broadcast, not wearing

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Speaker 1: a mask. So then the next morning have to wake

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Speaker 1: up on Monday and send your kids into school with masks.

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Speaker 1: Is that incongruity noticeable to you? Did you think about

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Speaker 1: it at all as you were on the sideline for

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Speaker 1: the game? You know, not during the game, because my

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Speaker 1: focus was elsewhere. But my brother went to the game

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Speaker 1: and his wife and he had been to a game

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Speaker 1: at SO five a few weeks back. He had to

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Speaker 1: show his vaccination card in order to get in. This

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Speaker 1: time did not have to show a vaccination card to

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Speaker 1: get in. No one told him to put a mask on.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't going to put one on anyway. I guess

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Speaker 1: if they had, you know, held a gun to his head, maybe,

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's it is so rich with hypocrisy,

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Speaker 1: and why our kids are the last line of mask

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Speaker 1: wearing is absolutely beyond my comprehension. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: they won't let this go. We've got science to show

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Speaker 1: us the kids are the least vulnerable most kids, the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of kids. And if we're going to sit

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Speaker 1: around and try to come up with zero risk policies

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Speaker 1: for danger in school, we're going to be doing stuff

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Speaker 1: and handcuffing, you know, putting on these policies, these strict

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Speaker 1: policies in all kinds of ways. I can tell you

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Speaker 1: that at my own kids school, they were they stopped

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Speaker 1: being allowed to climb on certain monkey bars because someone

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Speaker 1: hurt their wrists. They stopped being allowed to play football

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Speaker 1: at halftime because someone got hurt. You know, they weren't

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Speaker 1: hurt and sent to the hospital. They were just hurt.

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Speaker 1: So you keep putting up these, you know, ways to

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Speaker 1: bubble wrap our kids. And in this case, yes, I

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Speaker 1: understand it. It's a pandemic, but we've got the data. Now,

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Speaker 1: we have the science that everyone claims we should be

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Speaker 1: directing our decisions, and yet they just won't let this

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Speaker 1: go with the kids in school, and I'm baffled and

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Speaker 1: I'm angry. Michelle Tafoya with us right now. Michelle, as

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Speaker 1: I understand it, you guest hosted on the View, wondering

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Speaker 1: how that how that was is an experience, and if

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Speaker 1: you could find out where I am on the shortlist

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Speaker 1: to maybe guest host at some point, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like those ladies and I would have a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about. I think you would. I think you should

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Speaker 1: volunteer yourself. If you're not on that shortlist, they ought

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Speaker 1: to get to know you. Um. It was a really

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Speaker 1: interesting experience that taught me a lot about myself and

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Speaker 1: my ability to stand up for the things that I

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Speaker 1: believe in. Look, you're you're talking with four women who

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Speaker 1: really don't share your opinion if you're a conservative, and

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Speaker 1: not only that, the entire audiences with them. So you're

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Speaker 1: on a little island there and it's not that they're Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make it sound like they're bullying

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Speaker 1: or attacking or but your opinions are you're very much

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Speaker 1: your own, and so you've got to be ready for that.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, that's what's been pulling me to make a

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Speaker 1: move in my career, is that I have too many

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Speaker 1: friends who are quote unquote afraid or scared to talk

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Speaker 1: about their beliefs and their values because of what what

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Speaker 1: risks they're taking. This is amazing to me that I've

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Speaker 1: got friends who are scared to say things or post

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Speaker 1: things on Facebook for fear of the repercussions. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the vast majority of Americans right now, Michelle, and

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Speaker 1: I think you will find, as Buck and I have found,

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Speaker 1: the number one thing that people say to me, irrespective

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Speaker 1: of all the opinions we share, is I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: I listened to your show because you guys have conversations

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Speaker 1: and say things that I'm afraid to actually attach my

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Speaker 1: name to. And yeah, I just I mean, how terrifying

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Speaker 1: is that in America where many people feel like that.

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Speaker 1: I think the vast majority, whether you're white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Democrat, Republican, independent,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a stultifying fear that has taken over,

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Speaker 1: much of it connected to social media. That's where it's

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Speaker 1: it's got to be up to people like us. I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to sound dramatic about this, but I'm tired

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Speaker 1: of being scared and seeing people scared. This is not

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Speaker 1: a way to live. And this is not a way

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Speaker 1: to have a civil society and a free society. Ain't

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Speaker 1: it being scared a backlash on social media? This is

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Speaker 1: not it. So I'm kind of like on this crusade

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Speaker 1: to cut through the fear and let people know they

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Speaker 1: have an ally. And I'm just not afraid anymore. I've

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Speaker 1: been through the ringer on Twitter and Instagram and all

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Speaker 1: the rest, and I lived to talk about it. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, there are a lot worse things in

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Speaker 1: life than some stranger hating you. So if some stranger

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Speaker 1: on Twitter wants to, you know, put me through a

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Speaker 1: written beat down, they can do that that I can

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Speaker 1: choose to let that affect me, or I can choose

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Speaker 1: to say whatever. I don't know that person. Sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you do know the person, it's a little startling because

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Speaker 1: you find out your values are much different than you thought.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I understand it gets dicey. But we've

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Speaker 1: got to have these conversations. And if people are afraid

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Speaker 1: to have them, then guy like you, people like me,

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Speaker 1: we've got to have them for them, like on their behalf.

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Speaker 1: You know, Michelle, It's may come as a shock to

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Speaker 1: our listeners, but turns out there are some random strangers

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Speaker 1: on the internet who like neither me nor Clay. We

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Speaker 1: still like, how is this possible? We're away stunt that

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Speaker 1: it can ever? Nice fellows and what's with all the

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Speaker 1: all caps and the words I can't read on the radio?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Michelle Dafoya, where should folks go to follow

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Speaker 1: your your work or what you're up to next? Follow

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Speaker 1: on Twitter? I know I'm not on social media for

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Speaker 1: that reason. Yeah, I'm off of it for now. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm on LinkedIn. That's where you can find me,

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Speaker 1: just because that's kind of the least abrasive place I've

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Speaker 1: found to post. People are polite on LinkedIn. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you feel like the HR Department

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Speaker 1: a little different, so you know, but you know what

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Speaker 1: that's That's okay, And I've had some pushback, but for

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Speaker 1: the most part, Um, that's where you can find me,

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Speaker 1: at least for now. We'll see if that changes. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, all right, Michelle Dafoya. Michelle, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: because the Rams are blue, right, is one of their

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Speaker 1: gatorade with the primary color of the team, and uh,

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Speaker 1: and he knew Sean McVeigh was going to be in blue.

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Speaker 1: So that was my guest. I was betting that the

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Speaker 1: Rams are gonna win. I think it would have been

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Speaker 1: orange if the Bengals had won, that would have been

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Speaker 1: Lene was never even really in contention. So I missed this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like you know, Samsonite, I was

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Speaker 1: way off. I mean I was way off on this one.

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Speaker 1: Some of you will catch the dumb and dumber reference,

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Speaker 1: very few, but anyway, nonetheless, Oh wait, Clay can tell

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Speaker 1: everybody we got tomorrow real quick here yet tomorrow on

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Speaker 1: the show, we have my friend, investigative reporter Sarah Carter

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Speaker 1: of Fox News, your colleague over at Fox, Clay Ye,

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Speaker 1: who was just up with the truckers doing the work

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Speaker 1: of actual reporting day in and day out, talking to

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Speaker 1: them about what are you doing here? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: So we'll have Sarah Carter with us. We've also got

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Speaker 1: Ryan Grudusky, political analyst and consultant, talking to us a

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Speaker 1: bit about the redistricting fight. Again, it matters. It's not

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Speaker 1: a big fiery headline, but this is about control of

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Speaker 1: the House. And he'll explain what matters, what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And then Dave McCormick, Gulf War veteran Pennsylvania Senate candidate,

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Speaker 1: probably talk to him about the Russia stuff. But Clay

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Speaker 1: one thing we got for you here before we close

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Speaker 1: out the day. New York Times breaking news here that

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Speaker 1: the New York Times has been found not liable not

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Speaker 1: liable for Sarah Palin defamation. What do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to prove a defamation case under the existing

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Speaker 1: standard of Times v. Sullivan, so the actual malice standard,

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Speaker 1: which protects many journalists in the event that they make

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Speaker 1: significant errors. This was a significant error in their editor oriole,

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Speaker 1: which worked negatively against Sarah Palin. And what I said

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Speaker 1: and have said for a long time is it's amazing

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Speaker 1: how entities like The New York Times never make errors

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Speaker 1: in favor of conservatives, right, Like the New York Times

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Speaker 1: never reported that Donald Trump saved a puppy from being

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Speaker 1: run over, and then it comes out, oh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: he didn't actually do it. Every story that they have

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Speaker 1: that has proven to be false in retrospect, it ends

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Speaker 1: up being a negative story, which would be a pretty

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Speaker 1: in this strong indication to buy it. All the wrongness

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Speaker 1: happens to hurt Republicans and conservatives when it comes to

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Speaker 1: media mistakes, almost like it's not a coincidence, almost like

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Speaker 1: maybe they'd rather do the damage and pretend to care

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Speaker 1: about it later drive by if you will, drive by.

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Speaker 1: So thank you all for being here with us, appreciate

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Speaker 1: it so much. Well and our psyche to talk to

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. We'll be here sleet, Travis and Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: on the front lines. Truth um,