WEBVTT - Bozeman: Big Medicine 0:00:15.316 --> 0:00:23.516 Pushkin. Okay, listen between the driving and the rain and 0:00:23.556 --> 0:00:26.196 you looking at this bone and Bobby did weed and 0:00:26.236 --> 0:00:30.036 like your fucking Mohammad Holiday, give me the phone and 0:00:30.236 --> 0:00:34.396 let me do the navigation. You're gonna kill us. Anybody 0:00:34.436 --> 0:00:37.716 just got here? What does this say? What? Uh? This 0:00:37.876 --> 0:00:40.196 signe is one hundred and thirty three depths on Montana 0:00:40.276 --> 0:00:46.556 highways in twenty nineteen. Driver responsible, look at one hundred 0:00:46.636 --> 0:00:52.596 and I'm a good driver. This is not lost. Each episode, 0:00:52.636 --> 0:00:54.476 a friend and I go to a place, see the 0:00:54.516 --> 0:00:58.076 sights and try to get invited to dinner. I'm Brendan 0:00:58.116 --> 0:01:02.596 Friends's Newnham the driver, and that's my friend Danielle Henderson 0:01:02.876 --> 0:01:07.276 the backseat driver. I drive. I have a car this 0:01:07.316 --> 0:01:16.836 episode or in Bozeman, month town. We're going one mile 0:01:17.436 --> 0:01:22.276 to Bear Canyon Road. Yeah, we've just left the airport 0:01:22.316 --> 0:01:25.116 in our suv rental and we're bobbing and weaving our 0:01:25.116 --> 0:01:29.476 way into town. Bozeman is surrounded by six mountain ranges 0:01:29.596 --> 0:01:32.596 and is capped by Montana's famous Big Sky. Would you 0:01:32.596 --> 0:01:36.436 think you're our more mountain or ocean person? Now? Mountain. 0:01:36.636 --> 0:01:39.796 I live constantly on a coast, but I just don't 0:01:39.836 --> 0:01:45.356 take advantage of Although we are, as usual on the 0:01:45.356 --> 0:01:49.316 lookout for a dinner party, Bozeman's main attraction is the 0:01:49.356 --> 0:01:52.476 wilderness surrounding it. And to make that wilderness a little 0:01:52.556 --> 0:01:56.076 less wild you need the right here. Okay, here we 0:01:56.156 --> 0:01:59.996 go our first stomp Big Boys Toys. I don't know 0:01:59.996 --> 0:02:02.636 if it's Big Boys as toys or Big Boys and 0:02:02.756 --> 0:02:08.756 their toys, but we're here. Boys. We've got a paddle boards, 0:02:09.116 --> 0:02:13.316 we've got rafts, We've got boats, we've got kayaks, canoes. 0:02:13.556 --> 0:02:15.436 My name is Rebecca Wood, and I work at Big 0:02:15.516 --> 0:02:19.956 Boys Toys and Bozeman Monte Cedars snowmobiles coming soon. Despite 0:02:19.996 --> 0:02:23.276 the dazzling array of leisure craft, we're here for the 0:02:23.356 --> 0:02:28.236 serious business of camping aka sleeping outside on the ground 0:02:28.476 --> 0:02:32.196 on purpose. Not my idea of a good time. You see, 0:02:32.236 --> 0:02:35.156 I come from a long line of great indoorsmen. But 0:02:35.236 --> 0:02:37.076 if Danielle and I were going to run with the 0:02:37.236 --> 0:02:40.316 Big Boys of Montana, we'd need to start from the 0:02:40.316 --> 0:02:46.276 ground up. So officially the two person you could fit 0:02:46.356 --> 0:02:49.436 two people, but it's not going to be comfortable. Yeah, 0:02:49.436 --> 0:02:51.516 we're friends, but the secret our friendship as we live 0:02:51.556 --> 0:02:54.556 three thousand miles away from each other. And then what's 0:02:54.596 --> 0:02:58.676 in our cooking set? Utensils? Got a little salt and 0:02:58.676 --> 0:03:01.436 pepper shaker that I think is very cute. That is 0:03:01.476 --> 0:03:05.596 pretty cute. Little coffee pot. Is there an espresso attachment? No, 0:03:06.076 --> 0:03:10.596 you're campaign. You're campaign by camping. It'll you're lucky. There's 0:03:10.596 --> 0:03:13.956 the agg coffee. How do we heat of the pot 0:03:14.876 --> 0:03:17.796 fire fire? You might want to look up a tutorial 0:03:17.876 --> 0:03:19.636 video of how to start a fire first if you've 0:03:19.676 --> 0:03:24.036 never done it. We've got one of those little um, oh, 0:03:24.076 --> 0:03:29.276 that's a fork. It's extendable. Yes, My plan for retirement 0:03:29.396 --> 0:03:34.636 is to get carpal tunnel from turning my marshmallow? Um? 0:03:34.676 --> 0:03:38.156 Why why are first aid kids so prominently displayed? We 0:03:38.196 --> 0:03:39.836 rent them out. If you guys want to take some 0:03:40.516 --> 0:03:46.276 look at this guy, we'll take zero degrees sleeping bags. 0:03:46.276 --> 0:03:48.396 It would be good for you guys to have. I 0:03:48.436 --> 0:03:51.516 also do recommend bringing warm clothes. You never know what 0:03:51.716 --> 0:03:54.236 could happen, especially in Montana. Like I said, you could 0:03:54.276 --> 0:03:57.076 be out there and it could snow. So tell me again, 0:03:57.156 --> 0:04:00.356 what's fun about this? It pushes your comfort zone more 0:04:00.356 --> 0:04:06.196 than some net home watching Netflix? Right? Are you from Bozeman? Not? 0:04:06.356 --> 0:04:10.436 Originally I've been here for almost fifteen years now, and 0:04:10.596 --> 0:04:12.276 has it changed a lot in the time that you've 0:04:12.276 --> 0:04:18.036 lived here. Yes, housing is hard to find. The economy 0:04:18.076 --> 0:04:20.996 in Bozeman is crazy. There's a lot more people that 0:04:21.116 --> 0:04:23.756 want to be here than we have room for. I 0:04:23.876 --> 0:04:26.716 read that Montana has the most bearers of the Lord 0:04:26.716 --> 0:04:30.116 continguous forty eight states. I believe it. I believe it. 0:04:30.756 --> 0:04:33.876 You would feel more comfortable. We've got an electric bear fence. 0:04:34.516 --> 0:04:37.116 Oh my god, look at this, Daniel. This looks violent. 0:04:38.596 --> 0:04:41.156 Roll it out, stick those stakes in the ground, and 0:04:41.196 --> 0:04:44.236 then it is battery powered. How do you pee in 0:04:44.276 --> 0:04:46.756 the middle of the night with this thing surrounding you? Well? 0:04:46.756 --> 0:04:51.236 If I pet on this, would it electrocute me? I 0:04:51.276 --> 0:04:56.156 don't know if I have ever had anybody pe on one. 0:04:56.916 --> 0:04:59.756 Communing with nature is proving as complicated as I thought. 0:05:00.196 --> 0:05:02.756 So I turned my attention to a different sort of community. 0:05:02.796 --> 0:05:05.636 You know, do you ever like entertain my preferred sort 0:05:05.636 --> 0:05:08.476 of community, night life type of things? I asked Rebecca 0:05:08.476 --> 0:05:10.596 if she knows of any dinner parties we can crash 0:05:10.716 --> 0:05:17.836 this weekend? Um, I'll let you know. Well, on that note, 0:05:18.796 --> 0:05:21.196 we're gonna run all this gear perfect and if we 0:05:21.236 --> 0:05:25.196 don't return it. Something really horrible happens. Yep, Well, listen 0:05:25.196 --> 0:05:29.516 to podcasts and see if I hear anything happening. You 0:05:29.556 --> 0:05:34.316 could also to sleep in the car. Wait, you're serious. No, 0:05:35.396 --> 0:05:39.956 we're in Montana right. Look at this cannon bear spray. 0:05:40.796 --> 0:05:44.516 This is like riot gear bear spray. I think I'm 0:05:44.516 --> 0:05:46.116 gonna have to work my way up to the camping 0:05:46.156 --> 0:05:48.836 part of our little journey. We can work you all, 0:05:48.876 --> 0:05:51.036 work on you over dinner. All right, let's see how 0:05:55.716 --> 0:05:59.236 after bidding a dude to Big Boys Toys we reroute 0:05:59.276 --> 0:06:02.796 to a much tamer starting point for our trip, Bozeman's 0:06:02.836 --> 0:06:06.076 Main Street. Lafter right up left. I guess I'm sorry. 0:06:06.116 --> 0:06:07.876 I'm just looking at a spinning horse on top of 0:06:07.876 --> 0:06:10.476 a building, and I'm upset. Historic district is a blend 0:06:10.516 --> 0:06:16.036 of old Western charm and contemporary businesses. Or everywhere we 0:06:16.116 --> 0:06:19.276 look is red brick and glass storefronts, as well as 0:06:19.316 --> 0:06:22.356 sporty bowsmanites going about their day. So at risk of 0:06:22.436 --> 0:06:26.156 being a jerk, I can't really get into the mountain 0:06:26.316 --> 0:06:30.636 outdoorsy physical apparel aesthetic. Like there's something just so not 0:06:30.876 --> 0:06:37.316 sexy to me about practical clothing. I mean, like there's 0:06:37.316 --> 0:06:39.716 some good looking people here, but they're all like wearing 0:06:39.796 --> 0:06:42.636 like running shorts and shoes with rubber on them and 0:06:42.636 --> 0:06:45.356 stuff like that. But it's also practical for a reason here, 0:06:46.076 --> 0:06:48.356 you know, it's hunting season. Like these ladies are fashionable. 0:06:50.076 --> 0:06:53.676 That's not my scene. You don't need my arms around 0:06:53.676 --> 0:06:55.396 you if you have a patagonia that goes down the 0:06:55.436 --> 0:07:02.916 negative ten. Oh, it's up here. We're arriving at Barley 0:07:03.036 --> 0:07:07.196 and Vine, one of the town's many modern bistros. We're 0:07:07.276 --> 0:07:11.396 here to meet Missy O'Malley, the hardest working woman in Bozeman. 0:07:11.836 --> 0:07:14.036 Betty Butter about some butter. But she said this Butter's 0:07:14.036 --> 0:07:16.596 bitter of it. I'm a DJ, I'm a CBS Morning 0:07:16.596 --> 0:07:20.196 News anchor, I'm a snowboard coach, an auctioneer, a bit 0:07:20.236 --> 0:07:21.796 or better made of better. Betty Butter bought a bit 0:07:21.796 --> 0:07:25.476 of better butter. And that's about it. That's about it. 0:07:25.276 --> 0:07:28.276 It's Missy quickly reads us in on Bozeman. So you've 0:07:28.316 --> 0:07:32.156 got subarus, Mom's wearing Lulu Lemon. You're wondering if any 0:07:32.196 --> 0:07:34.516 person in this town actually works, because everybody's at a 0:07:34.556 --> 0:07:41.076 yoga class all day long. Forerunners, skiing, biking, fishing, hiking, dogs, dogs, dogs, 0:07:41.116 --> 0:07:44.836 dogs dogs, lots of drinking breweries on every corner. Coffee 0:07:44.836 --> 0:07:50.796 shops are on every corner. Outdoorsy, smiling hippies, lots of hippies. 0:07:50.996 --> 0:07:54.516 White people with dreadlocks, White people with dreadlocks. What's up 0:07:54.556 --> 0:07:56.596 with that? White people with dreadlocks? But is white people, 0:07:56.756 --> 0:07:59.756 white people, white people absolutely, Thank God for the university. 0:07:59.836 --> 0:08:01.636 So we have a little bit of culture. But for 0:08:01.676 --> 0:08:04.836 the most part, white people in the snow. You know, 0:08:05.956 --> 0:08:08.516 my name's Thomas. I'll be taking care of you. Has 0:08:08.516 --> 0:08:10.916 anyone been other than a miss each other? The rest never? 0:08:10.916 --> 0:08:13.596 It's our first time. We're gonna do wine. I'm gonna 0:08:13.596 --> 0:08:17.156 do those delicious little pink bubbles, all right, Yes, yes, 0:08:17.236 --> 0:08:19.716 thank you, thank you. Bozeman is seen as a very 0:08:19.796 --> 0:08:24.396 snotty city. People calls bos Angelis, people call us bose Angelis. 0:08:24.436 --> 0:08:28.436 Montucky surrounding Bozeman is rather read a lot of rural, 0:08:28.476 --> 0:08:32.316 a lot of farm areas. Seven people a day moved 0:08:32.356 --> 0:08:34.476 to Bozeman, which, when you think about a town of 0:08:34.556 --> 0:08:38.196 roughly forty thousand a few years ago, it's it's quite 0:08:38.236 --> 0:08:40.356 the number. It's one of those things though at the 0:08:40.436 --> 0:08:43.236 same time, Bozeman's growth. If it weren't for people that 0:08:43.276 --> 0:08:45.596 are coming in and restoring these old kind of rundown 0:08:45.636 --> 0:08:48.276 hotels and make it a cool new restaurant hip again, 0:08:48.916 --> 0:08:52.076 we wouldn't have kind of this this jibe that we've 0:08:52.116 --> 0:08:54.636 got going on. I grew up in a small town 0:08:54.916 --> 0:08:59.956 in upstate New York. One stoplight, yea everywhere. Over my 0:09:00.116 --> 0:09:03.716 lifetime alone, I've seen it turned into like a suburb 0:09:03.716 --> 0:09:06.636 of New York. And it feels bad. But at the 0:09:06.676 --> 0:09:08.836 same time, at least it didn't get washed off the map, 0:09:09.156 --> 0:09:11.116 you know what I'm saying. There's so many surrounding towns 0:09:11.116 --> 0:09:13.476 that have just died out and become like you know, 0:09:13.556 --> 0:09:17.596 parking lot right. Um. At the same time, I've been 0:09:17.596 --> 0:09:19.996 actually having a lot of struggles with my constant hustle. 0:09:20.476 --> 0:09:23.996 I'm still snowboarding. I'm thirty six. I've been teaching for 0:09:23.996 --> 0:09:27.076 about fourteen years now. For For the dudes, it's like, oh, 0:09:27.116 --> 0:09:29.596 that's cool if you're a ski bum. For a chick, 0:09:29.636 --> 0:09:32.796 it's just not as common. There's like a poetry to 0:09:33.076 --> 0:09:34.756 maybe a man doing about a woman doing it. It's like, 0:09:34.796 --> 0:09:36.956 what's wrong with her? Right right? Like get your get 0:09:36.996 --> 0:09:40.316 your shit together? Or like, what's there's my boyfriend right there, 0:09:40.396 --> 0:09:45.756 that's rich. Hey, Danielle, he's he's he's an LA boys 0:09:46.276 --> 0:09:51.356 from LA. I'm sensitive about that. Oh cheers, my friends, cheers, 0:09:51.396 --> 0:09:56.276 chers cheers. When I when I first um moved here, 0:09:56.356 --> 0:09:58.436 I was in the Murray Bar and Livingston, Montana, and 0:09:58.436 --> 0:10:00.876 I said, it's my first summer in the guy, so 0:10:01.236 --> 0:10:02.596 how long you've been right? So I'm in here about 0:10:02.636 --> 0:10:04.836 six months? He said, we have about ten years till 0:10:04.876 --> 0:10:06.956 you can have an opinion in twenty years before I'll 0:10:06.996 --> 0:10:10.396 listen to it. And so I'm just past that, which 0:10:10.396 --> 0:10:13.436 is super nice. The idea of being a man here, 0:10:13.516 --> 0:10:16.756 like competence when it comes to like fixing things, yeah, 0:10:16.796 --> 0:10:19.796 a fearlessness when it comes to the wilderness, being able 0:10:19.796 --> 0:10:24.356 to catch a fish, hitch a boat. The rich can 0:10:24.356 --> 0:10:26.436 do all that shit. Well, I certainly have a couple 0:10:26.476 --> 0:10:28.836 of skills, but I still don't know cowboy boots. I 0:10:28.836 --> 0:10:32.156 still don't own a cowboy. Is this the end for 0:10:32.156 --> 0:10:35.716 you guys whoa to be a sensitive man? Is that 0:10:35.756 --> 0:10:37.916 a perverse kind of thing in this town? Or I'm 0:10:37.956 --> 0:10:40.676 not sure it's sensitivity or not. It's a fact that 0:10:41.396 --> 0:10:43.396 if you if you're in New York and something. If 0:10:43.396 --> 0:10:47.956 it's a really cold day, there's seventeen thousand businesses to 0:10:47.996 --> 0:10:50.836 help you facilitate getting through that day, Whereas in Montana, 0:10:51.116 --> 0:10:52.396 you don't have to cut the wood to put in 0:10:52.436 --> 0:10:55.596 the fire, scrape the snow off your off your windshields 0:10:55.596 --> 0:10:57.116 in the morning, start your car a half hour before 0:10:57.116 --> 0:10:59.916 because it's twenty below zero or whatever it is. I 0:11:00.036 --> 0:11:04.076 worked in Yelisa National Park in nineteen ninety three, and 0:11:04.116 --> 0:11:06.676 I think my journals back then were like there. I 0:11:06.676 --> 0:11:08.996 remember using the phrase like there are no guardrails, like 0:11:09.156 --> 0:11:11.236 like you get straight up just die and not just 0:11:11.436 --> 0:11:14.956 stuck with me. As the wilderness is this scary place. 0:11:15.116 --> 0:11:18.276 I'm a civilization fan. It kind of checks your ego 0:11:18.316 --> 0:11:20.276 of the door a little bit, whether it's getting caught 0:11:20.276 --> 0:11:24.636 in a snowstorm or rain store mud or a mountain, 0:11:24.636 --> 0:11:27.196 lion bears charging moose, all this up. I lived in 0:11:27.236 --> 0:11:30.156 Alaska for four years, and I lived in Anchorage for three, 0:11:30.156 --> 0:11:32.076 and then I worked and lived on the Aleutian Islands 0:11:32.076 --> 0:11:35.516 for a year. That did greatly change my concept of self, 0:11:35.956 --> 0:11:38.756 to be in a place that allowed you to these challenges. 0:11:38.836 --> 0:11:40.796 That's how I feel about Bozeman You're only going to 0:11:40.876 --> 0:11:42.876 get something out of it if you put something into it. 0:11:43.036 --> 0:11:45.796 The love you take is equal to the love you make. 0:11:46.636 --> 0:11:50.636 Is that true? Is that true? I think he's your 0:11:50.676 --> 0:11:56.516 bison um. The last time I went camping, who was 0:11:56.636 --> 0:11:59.996 probably almost a couple of decades ago, And I do 0:12:00.116 --> 0:12:02.956 feel like this lingering anxiety about my ability to withstand 0:12:03.036 --> 0:12:05.956 the wilderness. But it's like nature, like I can see 0:12:05.956 --> 0:12:08.996 it from here right. No, no, no no. We call 0:12:09.236 --> 0:12:11.556 Big Sky Country for a reason. Brother, I tell you, 0:12:11.876 --> 0:12:14.676 my buddy Jesse always says, big medicine. It's a big 0:12:14.716 --> 0:12:16.476 medicine day when you get to spend the day outside. 0:12:16.516 --> 0:12:20.156 I'll take that into consideration. Thank you for supporting Danielle's cage. 0:12:20.156 --> 0:12:21.556 He say, here's the other thing. You guys are all 0:12:21.556 --> 0:12:24.756 city slickers. You need to step outside on one put 0:12:24.796 --> 0:12:28.076 your phone down and just look up at the stars. 0:12:28.196 --> 0:12:30.396 I mean, like tomorrow we're going to fly fishing and 0:12:30.596 --> 0:12:32.516 dub we're gonna go to the thesemb of the Rockies 0:12:32.516 --> 0:12:35.076 and see the times. After offering up a couple more excuses, 0:12:35.436 --> 0:12:38.116 I eventually changed the subject to one this more interesting 0:12:38.316 --> 0:12:41.476 to civilization lovers like me, like you guys, ever, host 0:12:41.516 --> 0:12:46.236 people at your place or anything. I mean, I wake 0:12:46.316 --> 0:12:48.756 up at three thirties. So week that's a little tough, 0:12:49.396 --> 0:12:51.676 but definitely on Friday, let's go to the art Walk 0:12:51.836 --> 0:12:55.316 the second Friday of every month. People have different art exhibits. 0:12:55.556 --> 0:12:57.836 Little cocktail stations sit up so you can just stroll 0:12:58.276 --> 0:13:00.676 and bop through each little shop down town, so your 0:13:00.716 --> 0:13:03.116 Bozeman locals actually go to it. Well, it's it's back, 0:13:03.716 --> 0:13:07.276 are you guys down? My middle name is gallery Walk, 0:13:08.036 --> 0:13:13.956 gallery Walking. Let's the whitest thing you've ever said to me? 0:13:18.316 --> 0:13:22.876 Literally blinded ever, I'm in the right place. Then the 0:13:22.996 --> 0:13:27.876 guest gallery Walk, who we gotta get you out of 0:13:27.916 --> 0:13:32.316 side Rose. They might have been laughing at me, but 0:13:32.476 --> 0:13:36.156 I was smiling too for a different reason. I've managed 0:13:36.196 --> 0:13:38.556 to drag our visit out long enough, and finding a 0:13:38.636 --> 0:13:42.396 camping area for the night no longer made sense. Instead, 0:13:42.716 --> 0:13:45.396 Danielle and I sleep in a hotel with walls made 0:13:45.436 --> 0:13:48.796 of wood and brick, and we're the only growling was 0:13:48.836 --> 0:14:15.356 from the ice machine in the hallway. We just passed 0:14:15.356 --> 0:14:19.236 the Gelton back there. Danielle and I are up early 0:14:19.476 --> 0:14:22.276 and we're going fly fishing and Madison the Gelton and 0:14:22.316 --> 0:14:26.716 the Jefferson. Are the three branches. That's grant our guide 0:14:26.756 --> 0:14:32.476 from trout Fitters. Turns out trout fits include waiters, big 0:14:32.556 --> 0:14:36.356 baggy rubber pants with footsias you smush into duck boots. 0:14:36.956 --> 0:14:39.196 It feels as if airbags have gone off in our pants. 0:14:39.716 --> 0:14:43.516 We barely fit in this truck. Outside is all sky, 0:14:43.916 --> 0:14:48.676 distant mountains and the occasional ranch. It's kind of brown like, 0:14:48.716 --> 0:14:51.676 it's different shades of brown and tan grass and wet 0:14:52.036 --> 0:14:56.276 fields and that's all. Hey, there's actually more cows in 0:14:56.396 --> 0:15:02.476 Montana than there is people that are there? The actual 0:15:02.516 --> 0:15:08.916 cowboys in Montana? Oh yeah, oh yeah, cowboy hat hair 0:15:09.196 --> 0:15:12.916 was in the deck, gave away. You're a man if 0:15:12.956 --> 0:15:20.796 you were, I like it. This is where we're gonna 0:15:20.796 --> 0:15:26.476 fish yep, preferred spot on this river. Oh I got 0:15:26.476 --> 0:15:28.356 a few. How can I have a feeling that you 0:15:28.396 --> 0:15:32.356 have your own personal private spots? There really is any 0:15:32.556 --> 0:15:57.516 secrets on this forever arrive? Are there chicks out here? Yeah? 0:15:57.556 --> 0:16:02.436 Come on over here. Line goes right into your finger. Here. 0:16:03.276 --> 0:16:06.276 Grant gives us a crash course on fly fishing alongside 0:16:06.316 --> 0:16:08.676 a river as wide as a four lane highway. How 0:16:08.716 --> 0:16:12.036 much line with our waiters? On, we waddle along the 0:16:12.076 --> 0:16:16.596 bank in slow motion like topless astronauts holding rods. The 0:16:16.636 --> 0:16:18.836 whole thing of fly fishing, though, is that you're trying 0:16:18.876 --> 0:16:22.636 to imitate a fly on the top of the water 0:16:23.156 --> 0:16:28.596 to trick a trout. Right, So that's a lift thumb. 0:16:30.276 --> 0:16:35.636 There we go. Ah. Do you ever play baseball? Branding? Yea, 0:16:36.196 --> 0:16:38.156 throwing it right to the first basement, right to the 0:16:38.236 --> 0:16:47.236 chest right? Okay, yeah, hear that woosh the rod? Use 0:16:47.276 --> 0:16:52.516 it too much muscle, It's hard for me. Got a girlfriend, yeah, okay. 0:16:53.076 --> 0:16:57.316 So let's say that you want a guy's night out. 0:16:57.396 --> 0:17:00.156 Do you go to your girlfriends say, honey, I want 0:17:00.156 --> 0:17:02.356 a guy's night out. I don't care what you say. 0:17:02.396 --> 0:17:04.316 I'm going out anyway. Or do you guys? Sweet talker 0:17:04.356 --> 0:17:06.196 a little bit. I mean, I don't really have a girlfriend, 0:17:06.236 --> 0:17:11.476 so but I'm going to guess you probably had. But yeah, 0:17:11.476 --> 0:17:13.476 I've had girlfriends. Go ahead, and if I wanted to 0:17:13.516 --> 0:17:15.156 go out with the guys, I would have to sweet 0:17:15.196 --> 0:17:16.716 I would have to sweet talker a little bit. The 0:17:16.756 --> 0:17:20.236 same thing with these rocks. It's not about muscle, okay, 0:17:20.276 --> 0:17:28.396 It's more about finess. Feel that good when you see 0:17:28.476 --> 0:17:32.676 that barber go down. Do you think you're gonna actually 0:17:32.676 --> 0:17:37.036 feel that strike? Probably not, like opposed to like ring 0:17:37.076 --> 0:17:39.196 your old barber fishing, we're just sitting there on the 0:17:39.196 --> 0:17:41.796 bank with cool or bear and waiting for that barber 0:17:41.796 --> 0:17:45.316 to go down. A lot of times these fish don't 0:17:45.356 --> 0:17:47.316 do that. All you see with that indicator is it 0:17:47.396 --> 0:17:51.836 just moves just barely, and that's your strike. So that's 0:17:51.836 --> 0:17:54.756 where like the kind of meditative concentration comes in, because 0:17:54.756 --> 0:17:57.716 you can't just be looking around and you know kind 0:17:57.756 --> 0:18:00.076 of everything about fly fishing. You have to be an 0:18:00.076 --> 0:18:03.796 active participant. You can't just sit back and wait for 0:18:03.836 --> 0:18:08.596 something to happen. All right, you're ready, Danielle. Yeah, I'm ready. 0:18:08.796 --> 0:18:20.676 Ran right, Nope, No, I mean my attentions. I'm gonna 0:18:20.676 --> 0:18:25.356 stick one of you guys right down here. You can't 0:18:25.436 --> 0:18:28.956 see that rock that's upsurface there. Yeah, do you want 0:18:28.956 --> 0:18:32.516 to do that one, Danielle. The feeling of the river 0:18:32.556 --> 0:18:37.276 on the waiters alone makes this really cool. See that, Brandon, 0:18:37.476 --> 0:18:42.076 what happened eagle? Whoa? That's an immature bald eagle. I 0:18:42.156 --> 0:18:44.636 know it's immature. So it's hair. It's well if one 0:18:44.676 --> 0:18:47.036 thing it had a lot, oh if there's bald eagle 0:18:47.156 --> 0:18:49.796 right there. Whoa, how you can kind of tell that 0:18:49.836 --> 0:18:51.476 as you look underneath them, they got a lot of 0:18:51.476 --> 0:18:54.676 white spots. An immature bald eagle still got a dark 0:18:54.716 --> 0:18:58.076 head because a receding hairline. Bald eagle. Yeah, kind of 0:18:58.076 --> 0:19:07.516 like me. Who oh, keep that right a little high? 0:19:07.556 --> 0:19:10.436 Are they really trouting near us right now? What do 0:19:10.476 --> 0:19:11.916 you think I'd take it out here if there wasn't 0:19:11.916 --> 0:19:13.396 any trout in it. I mean, I don't know. I 0:19:13.476 --> 0:19:15.876 just figure over greenhorns like it doesn't like are likely 0:19:15.996 --> 0:19:19.596 to getting one's low well at times doing not exactly 0:19:19.636 --> 0:19:21.756 the easiest thing in the world to catch. Yeah, it 0:19:21.756 --> 0:19:28.796 seems that way. That's why it takes time, patience. I'm 0:19:28.836 --> 0:19:32.796 looking over on Danielle. It just looks like a movie poster. 0:19:32.956 --> 0:19:36.036 She's just in the middle of the river. Casson on 0:19:36.156 --> 0:19:45.996 her own watch my hands slide dropped. When I lived 0:19:45.996 --> 0:19:49.876 in Alaska, UM I made a concentrated effort to constantly 0:19:49.916 --> 0:19:53.156 be out and to be hiking and you know, going 0:19:53.196 --> 0:19:56.196 on glacier walks and you know, being out more even 0:19:56.236 --> 0:20:00.036 just walking around towns I lived in. It felt more 0:20:00.476 --> 0:20:04.076 communal because the elements were there and remind us all 0:20:04.116 --> 0:20:06.316 that we needed help, like, this is not an easy 0:20:06.356 --> 0:20:09.556 place to live. Um. I spent the summer is out, 0:20:09.796 --> 0:20:13.796 you know, kayaking and canoeing and fishing, and so it's 0:20:13.916 --> 0:20:18.836 nice to be reminded of this, that this is also 0:20:18.876 --> 0:20:22.956 a part of me. I could also be aged. I'm 0:20:22.956 --> 0:20:26.316 going to cast that again. You know, I'm learning the 0:20:26.396 --> 0:20:28.396 difference between a good and bad cast. You could feel 0:20:28.396 --> 0:20:31.556 it in your arms when it's bad, just like with 0:20:31.756 --> 0:20:34.436 everything of every other part of my life, dating, writing, 0:20:34.596 --> 0:20:36.636 you just feel it in your bones when it's not 0:20:36.636 --> 0:20:40.636 working out. Oh, I got one, I got one on 0:20:40.676 --> 0:20:52.156 the line where you go it? That's all right. If 0:20:52.196 --> 0:20:54.596 you caught a trout, you're not allowed to keep it. 0:20:55.196 --> 0:20:57.516 So on these trips we really try to emphasize that 0:20:58.076 --> 0:21:02.836 catching release. Why is that, Well, we all came out 0:21:03.916 --> 0:21:07.716 and fished every day, there wouldn't be anything left in here. 0:21:09.636 --> 0:21:14.316 At the same time. Could be honest with you, Brandon, 0:21:17.316 --> 0:21:21.156 I don't like eating trout. What you don't like trout? No? 0:21:21.876 --> 0:21:26.116 Why not? I grew up fishing for walleye, all right, 0:21:26.196 --> 0:21:29.276 and they're much tastier fish. Oh yeah, they called them 0:21:29.276 --> 0:21:34.636 the poor man's helmet. Okay, I think I might be 0:21:34.756 --> 0:21:36.756 natural natural in some way. What do you say? Could 0:21:36.756 --> 0:21:39.996 you think it's fishing to be going for it? Maybe 0:21:40.036 --> 0:21:42.836 my erratic nature. They're like, whoa, this might be a bug. 0:21:44.276 --> 0:21:46.956 We got a bottom, But did I get something? Or 0:21:46.996 --> 0:21:56.316 was I at that bottom? There's bottom? Oh man, I 0:21:56.316 --> 0:22:00.156 don't think it enough. People spend enough time and actually 0:22:00.156 --> 0:22:02.156 I won't even say that, let the back it up. 0:22:02.596 --> 0:22:08.116 I don't think I spend enough time realizing how complicit 0:22:08.156 --> 0:22:14.236 I am in my own unhappiness because I'm not taking 0:22:14.276 --> 0:22:18.236 advantage of stuff like this. You know, I stay at 0:22:18.236 --> 0:22:21.756 home a lot and I work, and so I'm complicit 0:22:21.796 --> 0:22:30.756 in my own stagnation in that way. So what do 0:22:30.796 --> 0:22:34.276 you think about life in Bozeman? Not the sleepy little 0:22:34.356 --> 0:22:37.316 cut down it used to be. Yeah, what's happening? More 0:22:37.396 --> 0:22:41.036 growth and that's good and bad? Right, A's double edged? Short? 0:22:41.156 --> 0:22:43.116 Can you blame people for when to come here? No, 0:22:43.676 --> 0:22:46.836 I get it. I've been around the country. There's nowhere 0:22:46.836 --> 0:22:50.556 else I want to be. Yeah, I write, so I 0:22:50.796 --> 0:22:53.636 make metaphors, but I think about like the trout, well, 0:22:53.876 --> 0:22:56.396 oh there was a strike. Oh man, that was a 0:22:56.396 --> 0:22:59.956 fish Jesus you know him. You're talking too much when 0:22:59.996 --> 0:23:01.636 you go away I'm gonna really nail a fish, and 0:23:01.636 --> 0:23:03.556 then I'm gonna be screwed because you've got the basket. 0:23:05.116 --> 0:23:08.396 It's called it na. I'm sorry, but I think like 0:23:08.396 --> 0:23:11.476 the trout I want yep, we were gonna be a 0:23:11.516 --> 0:23:15.396 little cookers in there. Alright, alright, alright. What is the 0:23:15.436 --> 0:23:20.116 fly fisherman's relationship to the trout? I don't know? Like, 0:23:20.236 --> 0:23:27.876 what do you think about the trout? I got one. 0:23:29.516 --> 0:23:31.596 I got a fish. If you want to run on, 0:23:32.876 --> 0:23:37.516 you got that head? Check check it out out we 0:23:37.636 --> 0:23:44.876 got it. Oh, it's so nice. I caught a fish. 0:23:45.076 --> 0:23:48.876 I caught fish. Okay, go back in the water. Yes, 0:23:49.836 --> 0:23:57.196 let me go back home. I'll catch you again. I 0:23:57.396 --> 0:24:06.196 caught up. I got I think it's unfair and wrong 0:24:06.316 --> 0:24:08.676 that I didn't catch a fishing gave her a better fly. 0:24:09.436 --> 0:24:12.596 Do you have opportunity right there? I think they put 0:24:12.716 --> 0:24:19.556 in her wheat bed. When Grant drops us back in Bozeman, 0:24:20.116 --> 0:24:22.716 I asked him about a dinner party, but it's clear 0:24:23.076 --> 0:24:25.596 he has other fish to fry, so we eat a 0:24:25.636 --> 0:24:29.196 quick dinner Burger Barn and return to our lodgings. In 0:24:29.316 --> 0:24:32.876 our living room, Danielle smiles as she knits at first, 0:24:32.916 --> 0:24:35.276 I think she's gloating about the trout she caught, but 0:24:35.716 --> 0:24:40.076 I'm projecting she's just calm and content. The big medicine 0:24:40.436 --> 0:24:44.236 is working on her, whereas I'm just experiencing the side 0:24:44.276 --> 0:24:50.596 effects drowsiness, muscle and joint stiffness, disorientation, moodiness, trout envy, fatigue, 0:24:50.636 --> 0:25:08.236 sleepy foot, drymout, robbiness, panic attacks. It's a new day 0:25:08.236 --> 0:25:11.836 in Bozeman, and those sounds are not coming from my stomach. 0:25:14.076 --> 0:25:17.276 In Hot Springs, we're walking through the Sebold Dinosaur Complex 0:25:17.396 --> 0:25:22.036 at the Museum of the Rockies. Montana is particularly rich 0:25:22.116 --> 0:25:25.916 in dinosaur fossils. In fact, Bozeman is where Jack Horner, 0:25:26.116 --> 0:25:29.396 the inspiration for the paleontologists and Jurassic Park, lived and 0:25:29.516 --> 0:25:33.516 worked in the Hall of Horns and Teeth. We taken 0:25:33.556 --> 0:25:37.676 the museum's famous reconstructed t Rex skeleton. Its remains were 0:25:37.716 --> 0:25:41.316 found near here. Turns out even the tyrant lizard King 0:25:41.796 --> 0:25:44.316 couldn't make it out of the wilds of Montana alive 0:25:47.396 --> 0:25:50.796 to new branches from the tree of life, an important 0:25:50.836 --> 0:25:56.276 adaptation for some early miners. And what made you want 0:25:56.316 --> 0:25:59.676 to put an arrow in something? Somehow I don't want 0:25:59.676 --> 0:26:01.956 to put an arrow in something necessarily. I just think 0:26:02.036 --> 0:26:06.036 we're driving over to Extreme Performance Archery, where Danielle has 0:26:06.076 --> 0:26:08.116 signed yourself up for a lesson. Now the way the 0:26:08.196 --> 0:26:14.316 world is, I'm maybe subconsciously racking up some apocalypse skills. 0:26:16.876 --> 0:26:19.116 I wouldn't mind going down with the blast like. I'm 0:26:19.196 --> 0:26:22.156 not strong enough to survive in apocalypse like, so if 0:26:22.196 --> 0:26:25.996 I go with the initial boom, that'll probably be much 0:26:26.036 --> 0:26:28.956 better for me and whoever's in my life. Oh, Extreme 0:26:29.076 --> 0:26:36.276