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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the strated fere of normalcy. Welcome to a Thursday

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Speaker 1: edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 1: you ready to take you up until three o'clock as

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Speaker 1: our way through Buffalo's offensive side of the roster this

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Speaker 1: week as we are discussing the roster position by position painstakingly.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a deep dive. If you will,

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Speaker 1: do that. Man, I don't want to do because I've

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Speaker 1: got I was you know, you get ready for this

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Speaker 1: and it's like you go to what's this Wait? Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: what's this guy's name? It's Walter Walter football dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the top wait wait for it, then the top

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Speaker 1: how many is there? A one hundred? Yes, the top

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Speaker 1: one hundred wide receivers in the college game today. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first one is Jamar Chase LSU wide receiver. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who that guy is. He's the top Oh

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Speaker 1: he got on this list. He would have been a

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Speaker 1: no separation expert. Yeah, okay, he's really good. Let's just

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to know that. Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis,

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Speaker 1: John Brown's what we know. Okay. I didn't get that.

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Speaker 1: I can't do to get that off. The college thing

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Speaker 1: is just driving me batty. Well, it's an abyss of talent. Ah,

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Speaker 1: it's a black hole. It's a it's a you talk

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Speaker 1: Let me tell me that this you know what some

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Speaker 1: and you're you're just I will say this, it's like

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Speaker 1: right around. Well, not this time last year, but about

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Speaker 1: I mean there's some great with Davante Smith, the kid.

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Speaker 1: The kid won the Heisman, right, I get it. Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 1: another Alabama wide receiver, Yeah, they're like neck deep. There's

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Speaker 1: it's like Alabama's turning into like what Penn State used

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Speaker 1: they get all the guys they do. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: Some people suspect it's because there are too many padded

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase can be there at thirty. No, then I

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Speaker 1: that's fine news And notes Steve. We saw the Tom

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Speaker 1: the effects of the avocad the effects of the avocado tequila. Right.

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Speaker 1: or become a deep sea diver. Well, and they've also

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Speaker 1: that the that the football Trophy is a shaped like

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Speaker 1: would not have been his aerodynamic No, but you can

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup is heavy. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, really,

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Speaker 1: it's not. I think the Lombardi Trophy the only ways

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Speaker 1: seven pounds, so that's not a big Yeah. Stanley cups

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Speaker 1: a much more higher degree of difficult though it's even

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins to win the AFC East next season as

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Speaker 1: a fullback this year. You're done. We like this. Rickie

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Speaker 1: White up this club, and I'm my point is this,

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Speaker 1: they don't care how many guys they washed through because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna build it from the ground up again. Now

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Speaker 1: they got a bunch and we count like nine ten

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Speaker 1: guys that are like no touch, but that's about it.

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Speaker 1: You get twenty five new guys on this rocks. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot of untouchables. Yeah. With respect to the salary cap,

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Speaker 1: CNBC reporting that the NFL will finalize its new media

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Speaker 1: rights agreements before landing on a hard number for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one salary cap, anywhere from one eighty to

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Speaker 1: one eighty five. The new media rights deal could fetch

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Speaker 1: up to one hundred billion dollars from the family of

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Speaker 1: networks that are partners with the league. The big price

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Speaker 1: tag is anticipated due to the league's new ten year

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Speaker 1: labor deal with the NFLPA last year, so that is

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Speaker 1: expected to drive up the price that they're going to

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Speaker 1: ask for from the media, you know, the networks that

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Speaker 1: are partners with the league. Not to mention the addition

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Speaker 1: of a seventeenth game, the addition of two more playoff

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Speaker 1: games in each in the AFC in the NFC, so

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Speaker 1: all of that rolled into long term labor piece is

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Speaker 1: going to they believe, prompt the networks to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's my money, I want in. And it's also too

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Speaker 1: they're getting more adept at so you can have this

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Speaker 1: game but for the over the top fees, which means

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Speaker 1: the streaming fees or go to somebody else, right, and

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Speaker 1: I know that the word they gotta pay. Well, the

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Speaker 1: word is ESPN wants to push their ESPN Plus package,

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Speaker 1: which is their online subscriber site, and they're they've been

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Speaker 1: building that out for some time now, and knowing the

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Speaker 1: Direct TV deal is coming up, there's word that ESPN

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Speaker 1: is going to make a play to take what Direct

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Speaker 1: TV does and put it on their ESPN plush streaming network.

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Speaker 1: So in an effort to blow that up. So how

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Speaker 1: much do they pay for that? You know, there remains

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Speaker 1: to be seen. So kinds of really interesting it is

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Speaker 1: because they can slice their league up however they want

462
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Speaker 1: and give rights or rights and privileges or withhold rights

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Speaker 1: and privileges from some of these entities that you know,

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Speaker 1: if they want it, they can pay for it. Which

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Speaker 1: and if there's there's one thing the NFL has to

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Speaker 1: don knows how to do, it's squeeze the nickel out.

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Speaker 1: That's that last nickel out. They can get it, and

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll find a way to do it. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm surprised, not only is

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Speaker 1: it it may be great for a ten year labor

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Speaker 1: agreement and all that, yikety act. But Brownie, I don't

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Speaker 1: see these media deals being ten years. Yeah, right, because

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Speaker 1: the market I don't think they'll want to either, and

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Speaker 1: the platforms they're they're changing too fast. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: good point, you know what I mean. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: get caught up in a ten year contract and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, part of the contract becomes obsolete. You know,

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Speaker 1: they don't even use it, or they can't use it,

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Speaker 1: they can't make money with it, so it sours them

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Speaker 1: on the product. So I you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how lengthy this contract will beep five years, maybe half

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Speaker 1: of the maybe maybe four. Yeah. Before we go to

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Speaker 1: break here in the first segment, we want to mention

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Speaker 1: to you, as we mentioned, Field Yates from ESPN coming

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Speaker 1: up in the second hour of our program. So he's

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Speaker 1: coming up, and then Aaron Wilson, who covers the Texans,

487
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Speaker 1: will get the lay of the land down there on

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the latest going on down there. It's

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Speaker 1: a mess, and he'll give us the lowdown on that.

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Speaker 1: He'll be coming up in the third hour of the

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Speaker 1: show about an hour and a half from now. And

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today, how can the Bills make their

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Speaker 1: passing game unstoppable. We've got choices for you on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet a ad speeding free agency, b ad proven

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Speaker 1: pass catching tight end see bigger roles for Davis, Hodgens,

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Speaker 1: Kumero or something else eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: to get online with us there or on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet at one Bills Live. We're gonna take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but we'll come back with the phones. Dan and Rochester

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Speaker 1: hang on. You will lead us off when we return

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Fucking back One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Jasper with you, and we are talking Bills wide

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Speaker 1: receiver position, passing game in a more general sense, which

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Speaker 1: is the topic on our twitter poll. How can the

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Speaker 1: Bills make their passing game unstoppable? We saw in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs the Bills passing game somewhat neutralized by the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: slowed down considerably by the Chiefs, and you know it's

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Speaker 1: it's prompted questions going into the offseason, like, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: they need to run the get run the ball better

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Speaker 1: when the passing game's not working, And that seems to

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Speaker 1: be the approach that the Bills front office is taking,

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Speaker 1: you know, as they plan for twenty twenty one. But

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Speaker 1: by the same token, maybe there's a step you can

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Speaker 1: take to make that passing game almost unstoppable. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we're kind of asking today on the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: How can the Bills make their passing game unstoppable? The

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Speaker 1: choice is there a add speed and free agency? And

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Speaker 1: I have a guy that I like for that answer,

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Speaker 1: b ad Ap proven pass catching tight end see Bigger

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Speaker 1: Roles for Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgens, Jake Kumerou who was

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Speaker 1: resigned as a reserve, future free agent, or d something else.

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Speaker 1: So let us know what you think. They're on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bills Live, or you can give

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Speaker 1: us a call and eight oh three five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty and let's go

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Speaker 1: to the phones because Dan and Rochester has been waiting patiently. Dan,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bills Live. Chris,

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Speaker 1: Steve good good they passed you again in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Steve, I'm so olding for you man, You're

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Speaker 1: a great guy. Thanks, I appreciate it. I was taking

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Speaker 1: going maybe tight end Philadelphia. Yeah, zach Ertz is a

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Speaker 1: popular name that's come up more than once already. Dan,

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Speaker 1: so you're not alone and you're thinking, and it looks

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Speaker 1: like he is going to be a cap casualty there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: that unfolds and then what kind of price he's going

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Speaker 1: to command on the market and how many people will

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Speaker 1: be bidding for his services. That's that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: major rub there. Better Better players make you better, whether

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Speaker 1: it's a tight end, wide receiver, running back, or whatever,

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Speaker 1: even offensive lineman. I think one of the things that

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Speaker 1: is comforting and something we're kind of taking for granted

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Speaker 1: even now, is at least we don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about what Josh Allen's gonna do. I mean that if

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Speaker 1: you get a tight end, Josh could get him the ball.

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Speaker 1: If you get another wide receiver, Josha get him the ball.

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Speaker 1: If you get an offensive lineman, he's gonna help protect Josh.

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Speaker 1: Of Joshkin delivered better and more consistently. As all it

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Speaker 1: boils down to for me, Josh needs to take another

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Speaker 1: step ahead mentally so that when teams are able to

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Speaker 1: do what they did against the Bills in the Ravens game,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs game. Uh, with the Tennessee game early in

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Speaker 1: the season. The Bills have an answer for it to me,

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Speaker 1: and I know it sounds crazy, but if you want

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Speaker 1: to make this this offense, this passing offense, unstoppable, get

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Speaker 1: a more dominant offensive line. H Dan, you said something else.

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Speaker 1: I think we missed it. Yeah, Dan Grassi analyst, Right,

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Speaker 1: he predicted the Bills and won the Super Bowl next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't alone. Another ESPN dot Com NFL analyst, Kevin Safe,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Seyffert, actually had the Bills as his pick for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's been playing the Niners of the Packers

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl next year. Well, so thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call, Dan, we appreciate it. A lot of things

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Speaker 1: to go through before we get there. Open line for

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Speaker 1: you at eight oh three five fifty one fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty and uh. You know, the Jake Kumero thing

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Speaker 1: is interesting, Steve, because I think he flashed, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the Denver game. People are like, Wow, who's that

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Speaker 1: big guy, you know, and and there's something to be said,

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Speaker 1: uh for size for this receiving corps. Obviously, Gabriel Davis

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Speaker 1: good size receiver six two sixty three give or take

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Speaker 1: two fifteen. You know, John Brown Beasley, are your your

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Speaker 1: smaller types? Um and digs is five ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: one eighty five. Yeah, what what's to be said about

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Speaker 1: maybe adding more size because Kumero's a legit six five

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Speaker 1: and he could run. Yeah, he's good sized, good good wheels.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it's interesting because we had we

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Speaker 1: had this conversation every week when we just when we

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Speaker 1: were trying to figure out who was going to be

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Speaker 1: active and inactive. If Lee Smith was up, you thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: then it's gonna be you know, somebody's gonna be down

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Speaker 1: or whatever, and they were. They went with seven. They

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Speaker 1: drafted six wide receiver. They dressed dressed six wide receivers

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Speaker 1: every single week this season, right, and there was one

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Speaker 1: week they dressed seven. Right. That kind of gave us

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Speaker 1: the idea that maybe, you know, it was gonna change

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Speaker 1: how they their game plan or give us a tip

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Speaker 1: us off to what their game plan was going to be.

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Speaker 1: And it really their game plan never varied from too

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Speaker 1: much that we could see. It was. They're a throw

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Speaker 1: first football team. Now, whether that's by design or by

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Speaker 1: a little bit of by design and also by listen,

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Speaker 1: we do it better than we run the ball. I

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Speaker 1: think some of it had to do with Josh, and

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Speaker 1: I think most of it, for what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: I had to do with Gabriel Davis. He was You

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Speaker 1: can say what we want about Steph Diggs, I get

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Speaker 1: all that, but Gabriel Davis negated the need for Pat DeMarco, right,

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Speaker 1: he negated the need for Reggie Gilliam to be a

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Speaker 1: fullback wingback. They went four wide when they were all help.

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Speaker 1: They were four wide more than it by a far

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Speaker 1: more than any team in the NFL, And the first

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Speaker 1: month of the season, nobody was even in the ballpark

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Speaker 1: at running four wide more often than the Bills and

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Speaker 1: was the only team that ran it more than they did.

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Speaker 1: And Gabriel Davis was the reason why. Because if they're

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Speaker 1: trusting him, right, and you know we talked about adding size,

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Speaker 1: I mean Isaiah Hodgins, who never took the field for

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Speaker 1: the Bills as a rookie because of a shoulder injury

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Speaker 1: that ultimately landed him in I R and I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there would have been a place for him

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Speaker 1: on the roster this year anyway. That guy's sixty three

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Speaker 1: two twenty, So there's more size that presumably will be

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Speaker 1: coming into the equation in training camp, and it was

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Speaker 1: coming summer. The conversation's worth having. Will never know until

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Speaker 1: training camp hits that the way the Chiefs did it,

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Speaker 1: it's no question. It's with Travis Kelcey and Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill being faster than everybody in the league, and

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Speaker 1: more DeMarcus Robinson. The question is, because the Bucks did it,

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Speaker 1: if are you gonna go out and look for another

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill? They don't come along very often. It's easier

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Speaker 1: to find size. Yeah, Or do you go with Isaiah Hodgens,

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Speaker 1: Jake Kumero, Duke Williams kind of guys and say, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put two or three of these guys out

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Speaker 1: there with Steph Diggs, Cole Beasley. What do you got Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on a third and three, we'll just send We'll send

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox six to five and Tommy Sweeney at six

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Speaker 1: six and Kumero and Duke Williams and Isaiah Hodgins. Who's

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Speaker 1: the best matchup. Let's go for a jump ball first down.

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Speaker 1: Let's move it now. We'll bring Diggs and Beasley back

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Speaker 1: on I mean all that stuff. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: more likely that the Bills, given how where they're drafting

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Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen in free agency, I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, if we get a little

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Speaker 1: extra size in our offensive line and wide receiver corps,

637
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna change it up on some people. Yeah, eight

638
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: h three five fifty open line for you. There. We

639
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: go back to the phones and we go to Dave

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Speaker 1: in Florida. Dave, what do you have for us here

641
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Hey, fellows, how you doing after

642
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: the game? All right, yeah, yeah, we're We're fine. All right.

643
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. I got a two

644
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: part question here, Lee Smith. What's they're playing on him?

645
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: And what is the problem with him that everybody talks about. Well,

646
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a problem. I think if

647
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what he is, there really isn't a problem.

648
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: Is he of a contract yet or he's got one

649
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: year left? But he was on a Nashville radio station

650
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: last week, as we reported here, and he said he

651
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: is contemplating retirement. So there's a chance that he may

652
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: call it a career before we even get to next season,

653
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: and I would imagine that that Yeah, Okay, that blows

654
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: that part of it. Okay, Graham, what you guys are

655
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: just talking with Steve about the size, no, about bringing

656
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: enough Williams and uh, Kumarro and Hodgens, the draft pick

657
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: kid that didn't play this year. Hodgens, Yeah, I think

658
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: he's got to do the shout out. I like that.

659
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Kumaros especially, Yeah, big kid that can run. Yeah, and

660
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: Duke Williams ain't bad either. Right. We haven't seen Isaiah Hodgins.

661
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: He well, the reason he didn't play had more to

662
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: do with the shoulder surgery that he needed or had

663
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: than it did with him being, you know, a bad

664
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: player by any by any there are some people that

665
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: thought he had a better camp than Gabe Davison. He

666
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: got his shoulder hurt, right, So that may be, and

667
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: that may give them the freedom to move some guys

668
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: around on the cap because they think Isaiah Hodgins can

669
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: come in step into the into the fray in place

670
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: of John Brown or somebody else if he goes down. So, uh,

671
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: we don't know about Isaiah Hodgins. We never saw him. Kumarro,

672
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: we do, and he was pretty good. He showed really

673
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: well but he as soon as he caught that touchdown

674
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: in Denver, he was gone. Well right, because they had

675
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: some roster shuffling they had to do. They had to

676
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: move him off the roster, and then New Orleans claimed

677
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: him after a rash of injuries at receiver, and he

678
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: was down there for you know, a cup of coffee.

679
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the season, the Saints

680
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: released him, didn't sign him to a reserve future deal,

681
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: and then the Bills jumped on him and did just that.

682
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: So good on the Bills for scooping him back up,

683
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: and you know now he's under contract for the offseason.

684
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Back to the phones and to Mike in north Tonawanda, Mike,

685
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Yeah, Hi, guys,

686
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: spending a couple of weeks since you know, everybody's emotions

687
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: settled down from the game. But I agree with Steve Um,

688
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: not only his size at the wide receiver, but the

689
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: size on the offensive line. You look at our non

690
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: divisual opponents this year and it's huge. These defenses are

691
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: mammoth um. They can come at the quarterback fast hard.

692
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: I think it starts up fun if Josh Allen doesn't

693
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: have time. You can have the US for wide receivers

694
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: in the world and if he's running for his life

695
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: back there, Um, he's not going to have time to

696
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: settle down and throw the ball downfield. I'll hang up

697
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: the most year rock. Yeah, we'll have to put the

698
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: We'll get go and look at the schedule that they got.

699
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: You got the Bucks on there. You're going against that

700
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: defensive line, provided they bring everybody back. Now, Shaq Barrett

701
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: I believe is a free agent for them, right, You've

702
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: got so that's a big If you've got the Saints,

703
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Saints defense, the people, the Titans, the Steelers, the Chiefs, Falcons, Panthers,

704
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: and Jaguars, um, along with you know, the the division

705
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: guys that the Dolphins, Chest Patriots. So it's at home.

706
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: They've got the Falcons, the Carolina Panthers, US scare me

707
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: much Colts and the Steelers. Uh, and away they go.

708
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: They go to Jacksonville, to Kansas City, to New Orleans,

709
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: to Tampa and to Tennessee. I mean we're playing Tennessee

710
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, you know, I mean that's just where

711
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: they're at in the history and work. I guess we're

712
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: playing Houston every year too. I get looks like but right, well,

713
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: it's a small world. So there you go. You're gonna

714
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: see him a bunch anyway. Yeah, and you know, I

715
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: think the Saints will still have a good defense even

716
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: though they're gonna have to make changes to their roster.

717
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's not bringing everybody back, and if Barrett's not

718
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: in the fold, that Tampa Bay defense looks decidedly different.

719
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville's got some good young talent, including their

720
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: past rush rusher Josh Allen. It's got the same name, right,

721
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: but he's been He's lived up to expectations early on

722
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: in his career. Down there. Tennessee is not great at

723
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: rushing the passer. They even struggled this year and tried

724
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: to fill a hole with Clowney. That didn't work. So

725
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if we got to really worry about Tennessee.

726
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Their defense was thirtieth in the league. They just had

727
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: a bad day against that group. And I'll say this too, Yeah, yeah,

728
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: you can throw a last year's Tennessee game with the

729
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: Bills out of the window because it was not an

730
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: indication of which is what either team was. And I'll

731
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: say this about Tennessee coming back this year, Derrick Henry,

732
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: where are they gonna give him another three hundred and

733
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: fifty carries? I mean, and the Dolphin, even the Dolphins

734
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: defense steve like, they've got a good defense, but they

735
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: don't have a bend the edge pass rush guy Shack

736
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: Loss to make a power rusher. You know, yeah, I know, Shack.

737
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, they don't have Ben the edge

738
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: get home guys. They really don't, right, and that was

739
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: a problem for them, and it left their guys on

740
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: the back end exposed. They had really good man cover

741
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: corners in Byron Jones and Xavier Howard, but because they

742
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: didn't have a guy that could consistently get to the quarterback,

743
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: those guys got torched a fair share of times too,

744
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: as we saw in week seventeen. Well not not as

745
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: much as other teams, because they were number one scoring

746
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: defense in the in the league up until they laid

747
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: down against the Bills in Week seventeen. That was I mean,

748
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: the Bill scores combined and here seven points against And

749
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing, yeah, and here's the thing. The Bills

750
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: go deeper a wide out than the Dolphins do at corner.

751
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: And if they're gonna be a team that ain't gonna

752
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: be good enough. They're gonna have to change who they

753
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: are when they play this team because the Bills make

754
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: them pay in man coverage. Yeah, they just do. And

755
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: you know they can bring some pressure if they want.

756
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: But our guy, you know, it was just it was ugly.

757
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: It was an ugly game for the Dolphins, and their

758
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: offense could not keep up. They just could not keep up. Right,

759
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: all right, we have to take a break, but when

760
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll get to Rick and Rochester Steve

761
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: on a sell eight three five fifty. Open line for

762
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: you is we're asking what the Bills can do this

763
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: offseason to make their passing game unstoppable. Maybe it is

764
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: adding offensive lineman to improve the pass protection. Maybe it's

765
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: getting better in the run game so you can set

766
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: up your pass game even more effectively. Let us know

767
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: what you think. Eight three five fifty. Back in a

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00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: flash here on One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. N go back to one Bills Live.

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00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: Christ perhaps see chask. You're talking about the Bills passing game.

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00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: How do they make it unstoppable? What moves do they

772
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: make this offseason. Do they need to add at that

773
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: position specifically or somewhere else other getting some support in

774
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: the Twitter polled at this point, offensive line running back

775
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: being mentioned among others. Tight end also another position being

776
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: mentioned that was choice B on the Twitter poll. We

777
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: want to know where you stand? Eight o three oh

778
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: five fifty Back to the phones and to Rick and Rochester, Rick,

779
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one bills live.

780
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: I know we have Jake Kumero on the team. Now,

781
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I know he's tall, he's fast, he's a big guy.

782
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: What's the chance of putting on some weight on him

783
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: and converting him in to a tight end? Zero? Zero zero?

784
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Tell him? Why? Tell him why? Yeah, it's a it's

785
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: a completely different position. The guy may not have the

786
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: skill set to and be nasty enough to step up

787
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: and blocking off a defensive end in the NFL. And

788
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: if you put on twenty five or well fifty pounds,

789
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a different guy. So you know, you're

790
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: better finding a guy. And it would take Krumero, it

791
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: was too much work. It would take him, Jake Krumero

792
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: ten years to get to be an NFL tight end,

793
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: even if he's playing wide receiver in the NFL. It

794
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: would take him years to get there, and we don't

795
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: have You're not gonna wait on that. If you're looking

796
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: to add at that position, you need to help now. Yeah,

797
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna wait for somebody to develop. Think about this.

798
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas was a Buffalo Bill and now he's the

799
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: best tight end on the Washington football team. He was

800
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the five years the Bills started him

801
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: on that process, and five years later he's playing for

802
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, playing pretty good tight end for the Washington

803
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: for another team. So you know, I get your idea,

804
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: but the skill set is so different that it makes

805
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: it too impossible and too long term a project to

806
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: do it and think you're gonna it's gonna help you

807
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: this year. Let's go to Steve on a sale. Next Steve,

808
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: you're on one bills live. Hey, how are we doing guys?

809
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: First time? Long time? I really appreciate, yes, taking my call.

810
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: First and foremost, I want to think all the healthcare

811
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: workers out there, especially at ECMC, they're doing a heck

812
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: of a job. He man too that it's a real,

813
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: real crazy time we're dealing with in this world with

814
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: the uh, the swing of the Buffalo Bills on the

815
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: up and up. I just want to know your thoughts

816
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: on the running back position. As far as you know,

817
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: we got motor back there. You know we're struggling with

818
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: some injuries. Do we add a position there, or do

819
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: we had a player there rather? Or you know what

820
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: do we do? Because I know the game's won in

821
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: the trenches, I'm going to hang up and listen to

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00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: what you guys got to say. Thank you. I think

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I may be in the minority here, but

824
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the guys they got. Um. If Antonio

825
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Williams and Christian Wade can step into with with Zach

826
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Moss and Devin Singletary, I'm fine with those guys. That

827
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: position is good enough to win with, if not more

828
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: than good enough. I think the guys up front or

829
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: the difference, those guys got to play better. The scheme's

830
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: got to be tweaked a little bit. It's gonna change,

831
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: and what they need to do is gonna change from

832
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: last year to this year to be successful. So the

833
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: thing what I'm saying is what they could have changed

834
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: last year to make them a little more successful, both

835
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: with system and fit of guys is going to be

836
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: completely different in seven months or eight months when they

837
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: start doing it with these new group of guys, whoever

838
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: it may be, in whatever combination. So I'm good with

839
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: the guys. They've got it running back. I think you

840
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: can look, there's gonna be some changes on the offensive

841
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: line because of just contractual contracts and economics. So I

842
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: don't start with the running backs. I start with the

843
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, getting those guys, and if you do

844
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: add anything at running back, you'd probably want someone of

845
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: a different skill set, as Steve and I have said

846
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Speaker 1: on the show, somebody with a little more speed to

847
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Speaker 1: the edge. So if you do have to run outside

848
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Speaker 1: zone or you want to on a suite or something,

849
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Speaker 1: you've got a guy that can get to the edge

850
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker than maybe Singletary or Mosse can.

851
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: Since they're not known as explosive backs, that might be

852
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: the only consideration in terms of looking to make an

853
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: addition there as a third back on the roster. Knowing

854
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: t J. Eldon is a free agent, we have to

855
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Speaker 1: take a break, but when we come back, it is

856
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: one ESPN's field yates who will be joining us. We're

857
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: going to talk to him about just how crazy this

858
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: offseason is going to be, because in all likelihood it's

859
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: going to be one like no other, with a restrictive cap,

860
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: quarterback movement, and the market likely flooded flush with very

861
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: good veteran talent. So we'll talk to him about that

862
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: and a whole lot more when we return here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo

864
00:46:45,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Hello Bills Radio Network, Sports Yours Sports Update

865
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. The NFL wants to finalize frameworks

866
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: of new TV deals before setting the twenty twenty one

867
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: salary camp, per a report from CNBC. This implies that

868
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: the league could be inclined to shift some future earnings

869
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: towards twenty twenty one, potentially bumping up the salary cap

870
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: it's currently expected to land in the range of one

871
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million per team. It's possible that if

872
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: the money to be earned under the next wave of

873
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: contracts represents a sufficient increase in revenue, some of that

874
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: money could be moved around in order to make more

875
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: room available to teams in the coming season. Patrick Mahomes

876
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: underwent successful toe surgery on Wednesday. Mahomes had been troubled

877
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: by turf toe for much of the Chiefs postseason run.

878
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Following his team Super Bowl loss, the former NFL MVP

879
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: went under the knife to repair a torn planter plate

880
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: in his toe. Now set for some rehab, it could

881
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: take several months, but Mahomes is expected to make a

882
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: full recovery in time for the twenty twenty one season.

883
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Ravens left tackle Orlando Browns has expressed his desire to

884
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: be traded after spending most of the twenty twenty season

885
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: on the left side in place of injured Ronnie Stanley,

886
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: brown has found his comfort zone and does not want

887
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: to return to the right side of the line. He

888
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: says he only wants to play for a team that

889
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: will line him up at his preferred left tackle position.

890
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: According to reports, Baltimore finished as the league's number one

891
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: rushing offense for a second straight season. Seahawks QB Russell

892
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: Wilson showed rare candor this week and we went on

893
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show and said, among other things, that

894
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: he's frustrated by getting hit too much and he's not

895
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: sure that he's available in a trade that may have

896
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: rubbed Seahawks management the wrong way. Patrick said on his

897
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: show the very next day after Wilson's appearance that he

898
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: heard from a source that the Seahawks aren't happy with

899
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: Wilson for taking his frustrations public. If both sides aren't happy,

900
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: could a trade be possible? And Jesse Pegoula, there's twenty

901
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: six year old daughter of Bills and Sabers owners Terry

902
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: and Kim Pegoula, took just fifty minutes to take down

903
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: two eleven US Open champ and Australian native Samantha Stozier

904
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: six love six one. Pagoula will play third round match

905
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: Saturday against Christina Mladenovitch of France. So good on Jesse

906
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: for getting through to the third round of the offsee Open.

907
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on her. I don't know if you

908
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: saw Steve that. You know they write their signatures on

909
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: the camera lens after they win. She wrote go Bill's

910
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: Ghost Sabers. Oh yeah when she signed her name on there,

911
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. Second hour of the program and

912
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: set to join us now is the man you know

913
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: in love From ESPN's NFL coverage as well as fantasy

914
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: football coverage, it is one Field Yates joining us Field,

915
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: how are you doing man, off season underway if you

916
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: kicked back and relax for half a second yet, or no, Yeah,

917
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: it's been a nice start to the off season. You know.

918
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: The reality is that the off season hasn't changed a

919
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: ton in the sense that it's not like I'm going anywhere.

920
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: You know, I live in Connecticut and like I'm sure

921
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: it is in western New York or under you know,

922
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: for the most part of pretty strict quarantine protocols, so

923
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: some time to do things around the house. My dog

924
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: has gotten longer walks over the past few days, and

925
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: he was accustomed to during the football season, but other

926
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: than that, mostly hammering it away at the same things

927
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Speaker 1: that I was for the past six or so much.

928
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: All Right, So, with the fact being that all of

929
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: our lives are still boring in this pandemic, how wild

930
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: and entertaining is this NFL offseason going to be? Between

931
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: anticipated quarterback movement, teams having to probably cut some good

932
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: veteran talent to get under this restrictive cap, among other things,

933
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: How entertaining is this going to be? Yeah? I think

934
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: the amount of unknown right now makes this offseason potentially

935
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: as compelling as any I can recall over the past

936
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Speaker 1: five maybe even ten years. And I understand that could

937
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: be construed as a prisoner of the moment assessment, but

938
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: you're right, it's not just that we think we're going

939
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: to have some quarterback movement. We know we're going to

940
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: have at least one major trade once the Rams and

941
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: Lions deal becomes official, which sends Matthew Stafford to Los

942
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: Angeles or golf plus picks to Detroit. We know there's

943
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: conversation surrounding the potential for Deshaun Watson to be traded,

944
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: but there's this new dynamic that you alluded to. It

945
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: it's not a good one, but it's a reality. Is

946
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: that with the cap expected to drop by somewhere around

947
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars from last year to this year, it's

948
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: going to probably pinch some really good players out of

949
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: their contracts. It's not that stars won't be cap. Stars

950
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: will be kept because they're the best players on the roster.

951
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: But we could see an interesting sort of compelling I

952
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: hate to use the word or term middle class, but

953
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: players that aren't on rookie contracts, the players that also

954
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: aren't making fifteen or eighteen million dollars per year, Guys

955
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: who are making somewhere between four and nine million dollars.

956
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: How many of those can you absorb on your roster

957
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: if you're having to balance what you already have in

958
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: place for twenty twenty one on the cap plus what

959
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: you want to add on the cap for twenty twenty one.

960
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: So a very very interesting few months ahead. What do

961
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: you think some of the surprises will be. I mean,

962
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: you can look at the Houston Texans. They've got all

963
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: kinds of cap problems, they have no draft picks, They've

964
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: got a huge cap number with Deshaun Watson, an enormous

965
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: cap number with JJ Watt, but their roster has already

966
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: been gutted. Do they and it's an interesting question, do

967
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: they keep the iconic players on their franchise and cut

968
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: forty seven other guys? Or do they keep the forty

969
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: seven other guys who were four and twelve last year

970
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: and cut the iconic players. I think what's going to

971
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: end up happening is I think the Deshaun Watson and

972
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: JJ Watt situations are pretty decidedly different. Obviously, the Deshaun

973
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: Watson situation has got nasty publicly already. Well, when you're

974
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: evaluating Deshaun Watson, in the decision to trade for him

975
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: your new GM, Nick Kasserio, at some point you have

976
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: to have your look in the mirror moments and plant

977
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: your flag one way or the other. The first option

978
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: is to say we're not trading you and risk the possibility.

979
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson says, fine, I'm not playing football for anybody

980
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: this year if you're not willing to trade me, and

981
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I'll sit out and I will force your hand going

982
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: into next year because right now and this could change.

983
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: But on this conversation the first half of February does

984
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: not strike me that Deshaun Watson is particularly inclined to

985
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: move off of his stance to just go back to

986
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Houston and no big deal, ignore what's happened over the

987
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: past handful of months. The other option is he looks

988
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: into the mirror nikos Sario does and says, the only

989
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: thing worse than Deshaun Watson are the only thing better,

990
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: I guess, or one of the things that we better

991
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: than Deshaun Watson playing or not playing football would be

992
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: you know what, we have to make a move, and

993
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: it's going to cost a ton to acquire Deshaun Watson.

994
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: But if you're the Texans. Maybe you say, if the

995
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: picks and players or potentially picks only trade for Deshaun

996
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Watson gives us an avenue to acquire a new young quarterback,

997
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: well then I'm gonna have to do what it takes.

998
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: And Nick Kissario is not the person responsible for Deshaun

999
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Watson's frustrations, and that's notable because if it was, it

1000
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: would make the idea of trading to Shaun Watson that

1001
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: much more difficult to execute. But Nick Assario is just

1002
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: sort of walks into this pile of mud as opposing

1003
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: to be the person that cause it in the first place.

1004
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: I think ultimately Deshaun Watson gets traded, but we'll keep

1005
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: an eye on that one. As for JJ Watt, guys,

1006
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of the Matthew Stafford situation

1007
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: in some ways in that if JJ Watt is traded

1008
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: or released, it wouldn't surprise me if it's one of

1009
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: those decisions that comes mutually. Because JJ watsonill a really

1010
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: good player. I know he's gonna get paid a lot

1011
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: next year, but he's a really really good player, and

1012
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: he is iconic and he means so much to Houston,

1013
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: and right now they don't have much to cling on too.

1014
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: But let's say JJ expresses to the front office, you know,

1015
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: I deserve the opportunity to go to try to pursue

1016
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: a championship, and if that means you have to cut

1017
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: me and I go make less money somewhere else next year,

1018
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: maybe JJ's amenable to that. Maybe he's not. But JJ

1019
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: may say it's probably in my best interest this juncture

1020
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: of my career, with still good football left, but not

1021
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe ten years of good football left to go somewhere else.

1022
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: So I think that the JJ Watt decision could be

1023
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: one that it won't be easy because of how much

1024
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: he's meant to the Texans. He's probably the best player

1025
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: in their franchise's history. But it could be one that

1026
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: is received with understanding on both sides. With While we're

1027
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks, obviously the subject here is Josh Allen and

1028
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, now with three years under his belt, the

1029
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: Bills have the option to extend him if they want

1030
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: to do that. We know that didn't go well for

1031
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: the Rams with Jared Goff, it didn't go well with

1032
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: the Eagles for Carson Wentz. And now we've got this

1033
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: restrictive cap as another hurdle for them to clear. Brandon

1034
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: Bean has said they can get creative and do it

1035
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: this offseason. If that ultimately is the decision they want

1036
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: to make, put your GM had on here field. What

1037
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: do you do in this situation with with Josh Allen

1038
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: in the season he had in a restrictive cap to

1039
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: work around? Would I would be working to extend Josh Allen?

1040
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: And you are so smart to point out those two

1041
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: other contracts that aged poorly. I will say that I

1042
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: thought Josh Allen's play this year reached a height that

1043
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: was greater than either Carson Wentz or Jared Goff saw

1044
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: during their time prior to their extendings. And I know

1045
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz was nearly the NFL's MVP during the

1046
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: two thou seventeen season. But Josh's trajectory has been a

1047
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent, a little bit more obvious. It's like,

1048
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, step one raw, step two improving, but still raw,

1049
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: step three improving, maybe maybe a tiny bit raw, but

1050
00:56:54,160 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: mostly just a star. And the long term ramifications of

1051
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: an extensions that is signed right now could really pay

1052
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: off for a team because if Josh, let's just imagine

1053
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: a scenario where Josh j sign extension this offseason, and

1054
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make up numbers here. I'm not this

1055
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: is no reporting or anything. But if it's a five

1056
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: year extension, so two more years beyond, I guess that

1057
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: would be twenty twenty two. We get into twenty twenty seven,

1058
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: five years, one hundred and seventy five million dollars, which

1059
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: if my map is accurate, that means thirty five million

1060
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: dollars per season. Right now, it's going to place him

1061
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: up or near the top of the highest paid quarterbacks.

1062
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: But three years from now, that could be somewhere around

1063
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know, ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelfth, and Josh

1064
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Allen could be at that point first, second, third, best

1065
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, I mean, one of the top

1066
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: five players at the position. So I think the long

1067
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: term advantages beyond the fact that Josh Allen, I think,

1068
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: more than any other Bill's player, represents what Brandon and

1069
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott have done. It's nothing they've been exclusively a

1070
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: draft team, because obviously it's the fun Biggs acquired in

1071
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: a trade, and free agents like Cole Beasley and Mario

1072
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: Addison and players on both sides of the ball, Micah High, etc.

1073
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: But the idea that we believe in you, we're gonna

1074
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: surround you with the pieces to make you great, and

1075
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: we buy into your ability. I think the Josh is

1076
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: sort of the face of that in Buffalo on that roster. Yeah,

1077
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: And I'm what about going forward with what you've seen

1078
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: and about how they their season ended. And we've had

1079
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: this conversation where the last four or five teams, six

1080
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: teams in each conference go all the way back to

1081
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: the Bills game against Baltimore when Baltimore didn't play their best,

1082
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: Bills played very well. In the next game against the

1083
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Ravens or against in Indianapolis Colts, they played pretty well

1084
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: and the Bills played well enough to beat them. Would

1085
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: you get into the Chiefs AFC Championship game Bills didn't

1086
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: play well, the Chiefs beat them by two touchdowns. And

1087
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is the same thing with different teams.

1088
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: How close are all these teams at the top and

1089
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: what do they have to do to get better? What's

1090
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: the philosophy prevailing in the NFL. I mean, I know

1091
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: you're a big fantasy guy, and I know Josh is

1092
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: like the eight hundred pound guerrilla in fantasy football. But

1093
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, how do these teams don't reload instead of

1094
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: rebuild in this environment. I think it's much different than

1095
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: it has been in years past, in decades past. Yeah, well,

1096
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: I would say that we will remind it again. There's

1097
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: more than one way to skin the Cats and the

1098
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right. I think people said that, you know,

1099
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: the Bucks and Chiefs roster have some comparable tenants, but

1100
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: they're also very different. I mean the Bucks, you know,

1101
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: you can make the case that the defense is almost

1102
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: on par with their offense, if not even a tick

1103
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: a ball based the way that they've played this year.

1104
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: They're so so so talented on both sides of the ball.

1105
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: But they're close the Bills are. It didn't feel that

1106
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: way in the AFC Championship game. But in the same

1107
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: way that if the Bucks and Chiefs played a hundred times,

1108
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: maybe the Chiefs wins forty five fifty times out of

1109
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: a hundred, maybe even more than that, sixty five out

1110
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: of one hundred times. No one knows, right, they only

1111
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: play once. Same deal with the Chiefs and the Bills

1112
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: game in the APES Championship is that I don't think

1113
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: the Bills were as bad of a team as the

1114
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: score may have suggested, as I'm bad, but they're not

1115
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: as far away from the Chiefs as the score may

1116
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 1: have indicated. I think they are closer than the score

1117
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: may have indicated. I think the Bills are going to

1118
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: have to the challenge for them, and this is a

1119
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: challenge it goes league wide, is that this roster is

1120
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: so good this year, and now, how do you find

1121
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: a way to retain not all, but most of it.

1122
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: You're going to have to make some difficult business decisions,

1123
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: and you know you've got players like Matt Milano amongst

1124
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: others that are scheduled for free agency. How do you

1125
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: thread that needle? If you're Brandon being at his staff

1126
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: of prioritizing the players that we have to keep, but

1127
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: also understanding that not everybody can be kept, and those

1128
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: are that far off, I really don't believe that. I

1129
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: think just a little bit more defensive reinforcements. Felt like

1130
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: the defense was less consistent this past year than it

1131
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: was in twenty nineteen, and this team could be right there,

1132
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: ready to compeat from the Super Bowl as soon as

1133
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: next season. We're talking to ESPN's fields. Yeah, it's fieldbe

1134
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: you know you outlined how the middle market could get

1135
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: squeezed in free agency and on rosters this year based

1136
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: on this restrictive cap. How do you think the designation

1137
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: of franchise and maybe transition tags is impacted by the

1138
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: restrictive cap because you know, I understand you want to

1139
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: keep your best players, but man, I mean, that's a

1140
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: hell of a commitment in a restrictive cap year, and

1141
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: you may not even know what the cap is definitively

1142
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: when the opportunity to tag guys opens in a little

1143
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: over a week. I mean they're saying they may not

1144
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: get the hard number until March ninth, March tenth, March thirteenth.

1145
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: It might not be until the free agent market opens,

1146
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: for goodness sake. So how is how is the franchise

1147
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: and transition tag game going to be played without a

1148
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: hard number available to NFL front offices. I think what

1149
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: you might see, and this is just a guess you're

1150
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: an instinct, is that you know players that are obvious

1151
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: franchise tag candidates are going to get the franchise tag.

1152
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: But in the year's past, sometimes what you've seen with

1153
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: teams is that they've gone ahead and tagged a player

1154
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: who is maybe like maybe not quite at the elite

1155
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: game changing level that you would think of as a

1156
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: franchise player, but a good enough player you want to

1157
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: keep them, but you just can't quite get to the

1158
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: numbers that you want to mutually agree to. Maybe we

1159
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: see a little bit less of that this year, where

1160
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're maybe I don't know what the

1161
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: number scale would have to be if the franchise tag

1162
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: is for players at eight and a half and above,

1163
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: but a player is viewed by a team as a

1164
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: seven and a half this year, maybe in previous years

1165
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: it's just franchise tag of them figure it out later

1166
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: this year, you know, if you don't figure it out,

1167
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: as you said, Chris, this is a year where you know,

1168
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: let's just say it's a franchise tag for seventeen point

1169
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: five million bucks. That could be you know, nine and

1170
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: a half ten percent of your cap. And if that

1171
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: players only be there for one more year, unless he

1172
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: is truly your franchise player, it might be a more

1173
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: difficult decision to justify. So it'll be very interesting. It's

1174
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: the other things shake out the last one for me.

1175
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: We've heard of hot numbers as high as eighteen teams

1176
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: with different guy taking snaps on opening day of twenty

1177
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: twenty one. What's your number? How many teams do you

1178
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: think will have an actual different quarterback or from another

1179
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: team or a new face on the franchise taking snaps?

1180
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: How many teams do you think the overunder is. I'm

1181
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna go, well, I think eighteen is a reasonable over under.

1182
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with like at least twelve, right, I

1183
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: think twelve is a pretty That's that's that's the floor

1184
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: is twelve in my opinion, because you know, it's not

1185
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: just that we've seen things like the retirement of Philip

1186
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: Rivers and the eventual retirement to Drew Brees. It's a trade.

1187
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: So that's four right there, right, Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff,

1188
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: We've already reached four in the league. Year hasn't even begun.

1189
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: Then you factoring the Jaguars and potentially too were three

1190
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: other teams in the first round of the draft, plus

1191
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: potential trades. If the Shawn Watson gets traded, I mean,

1192
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: the number can inflate past twelve pretty quickly, so I

1193
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if the number ends up around fifteen sixteen.

1194
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: It certainly could push as high at twenty. I tell

1195
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: people this frequently. My colleague, the greats and comfortable Adam

1196
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: Scheff there does not make predictions unless he is well

1197
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: researched on the topic. I don't think he would throw

1198
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: the number eighteen out there, just because I think he

1199
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: probably has thought through it very logically and has studied

1200
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 1: him and I think there's a chance that that number

1201
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: could be of what we end up approaching. Thanks, Field,

1202
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: all right, we know your time's tight. Field. We appreciate

1203
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: the time you gave us. Good to see you enjoy

1204
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: your off season, and we know you'll stay busy, but

1205
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: not too busy. All right, already sounds good to you guys.

1206
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's Field Yates from ESPN, NFL reporter, NFL

1207
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: fantasy football guru, but always good at given the lay

1208
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: of the land on what is this offseason gonna be different?

1209
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: It is just gonna be flat out different. It's gonna

1210
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: be a treat to see all these new teams with

1211
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: different guys taking snaps on opening day wherever, whatever it's

1212
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: gonna be, whoever it's gonna be for differently, Because he's right,

1213
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: you look at the old guys and uh, and all

1214
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: the guys who have retired, Philip Rivers and Brees is

1215
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: presumably he's probably gonna do it as well. So there's

1216
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: two teams right there. Jacksonville is gonna draft Trevor Lawrence,

1217
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: and then you've got New England, who doesn't have Cam

1218
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: Newton coming back, presumably presumably Pittsburgh and Ben Roethlisberger is

1219
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: not a sure thing. Tennessee's not gonna move anybody, Baltimore, Cleveland,

1220
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: but Indianapolis has got to find a replacement. Um Chicago, Yeah, Denver,

1221
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, Maybe Cincinnati's not doing anything. Houston, Deshaun Watson

1222
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: wants out. Will he get it? Maybe? Will the Jets

1223
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: get their guy? Will Sam Darnold not be there? It's

1224
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I don't think does Denver go with

1225
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: Drew Locke. Yeah, I don't think Seattle's gonna move with

1226
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I just don't think they'll do it. I

1227
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 1: think it was more frustration and yeah, I just don't

1228
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: think there's anything there. I don't think Russell Wilson's passionate

1229
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: about and leaving Seattle. New Orleans will have to find somebody. Obviously,

1230
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I don't think Green Bay's gonna do anything.

1231
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: Washington will have a new guy maybe, and I don't

1232
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: know if Alex Smith. No, maybe, No. Tampa Bay's not changing,

1233
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: The Rams have changed, Chicago is gonna change. Yeah, that's

1234
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Arizona will not, Minnesota probably will not. San

1235
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: Francisco wants to. Yeah, and they can get out of

1236
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: the Garoppolo contract pretty easily. Giants don't. Dallas. Dak is

1237
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna come back there, and you know he'll start there. Carolina.

1238
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Teddy Bridgewater's gonna make it be a change, right,

1239
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: Detroit already changed, Philly is gonna change. It'll be Jalen

1240
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: Hurts probably in Atlanta. I just I don't know if

1241
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: there's eighteen of them in there, but gonna be nuts.

1242
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot, it's a lot. I don't think it's

1243
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna be eighteen. I think it's more like twelve or thirteen.

1244
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: Half the league is crazy, though I don't think so.

1245
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy then, just the fact that it could happen.

1246
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: It's not half the league, it's not gonna it's like,

1247
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe it can. It's bananas. Eight oh three

1248
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

1249
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: How can the Bills make their passing game unstoppable? Maybe

1250
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: it's not a direct change at the wide receiver position.

1251
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you make a change somewhere else to make the

1252
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: passing game better as it's currently constituted open line for you.

1253
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: At eight o three oh five fifty, we do go

1254
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: back to the phones. We go to Nick and Buffalo. Nick,

1255
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: what do you have for us here? On one Bills Live. Hey, guys,

1256
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna go all offense, are all defense,

1257
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: and then whatever one you pick, you're gonna have to

1258
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: pick up what you can form whatsover left of free agents,

1259
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: some one year contracts, Like hey, no, all the Bills fans,

1260
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: they they're all saying that we need a running game

1261
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: and Nage Harris and blah blah blah blah. But I

1262
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: don't care who got back there. I mean, they don't

1263
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: understand that Nagie Harris. The guy behind him, Deontay Brown

1264
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: is six four three to sixty. He's a guard. And

1265
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: if you love to watch tape, watch Nagie Harris run

1266
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: behind him. So if you're gonna grab Nagie Harris, you

1267
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: better grab Deontay Brown a little later. And there's so

1268
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: many great centers this year. As another spot that the

1269
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 1: Bills get beat up up the middle. The Landon Dickerson

1270
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 1: and Creed Humphrey, who was a was a teammate of

1271
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: Cody Ford, board of Cody Ford. Yeah, and there's that kid.

1272
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: The combine star so far off the Senior Bowl was

1273
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: Quinn Miners, who looks like a buffalo guy. I ever

1274
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: saw one. He's a wrestler. He's definitely like a second

1275
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: or third round pick. So I mean, if you're gonna go,

1276
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: you got to improve the offensive line. I mean, we

1277
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: have enough at the scille positions. We have to build

1278
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: from within, and if you decide that's not the place,

1279
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: then you go defensive line. And you know what, Star

1280
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: with tool A, he did opt out. Now I don't

1281
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: know how that looks to teammates, but if my you

1282
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: know what, you can say all you want that, Oh,

1283
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, he had to take care of his family, this,

1284
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: this and that. But also there's got to be a

1285
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: little if we only had Star, we might have went

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: a little farther because that's a weak spot. I don't

1287
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna hold it against them, but I

1288
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't know as a fan that kind of pees me

1289
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: off a little bit that teammates who were fighting like

1290
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: crazy and he opted out. And I don't think he's

1291
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: got one year left on a contract anyway, So I

1292
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: think we could get a little better, bigger in there.

1293
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent this year and Marvin Wilson

1294
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: and Florida State guys like that. So I think you're

1295
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 1: gonna go either or you're all gonna go all defense

1296
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: like carolinea did last year seven picks or like Baltimore

1297
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: the Ravens do. They just take as many defensive outside

1298
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: linebackers and pass rushers they could find, and if they

1299
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: take seven and four workout for him, they end up

1300
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: in with those four pass rushers. That's how Judon ended

1301
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: up over there, and guys like that, you just have

1302
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: to take a shot, I guess. I mean, there's guys

1303
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: like Dalen Hayes out of Notre Dame and stuff like

1304
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: that who can with coaching, can get better. It's all

1305
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: about there's no combine this year, so you have to

1306
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. So the bean, the bean is

1307
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: on he's on control this year. Now you're gonna see

1308
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: who has the best front offices and without the combine.

1309
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: So you know this year it's gonna be it's gonna

1310
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: matter more. Every pick is gonna matter with this salary cap.

1311
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: And I'd offer my services for free. I'm a Bills fan. Yeah,

1312
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: well to call me. I'm you know I'm doing Nick.

1313
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: I can tell you're doing your homework, you're you're Yeah,

1314
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Nick, appreciate you're a goner. Nick

1315
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: already had his Nick already had his second cup of

1316
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: coffee too, right, exactly the great call, Nikki. You're right,

1317
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: but I am I agree with you one hundred percent.

1318
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: You're talking our language. I think you started up front

1319
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball on a star as

1320
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: Starlow to Lea. You gotta remember it was a very

1321
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: different atmosphere back in May June when these guys had

1322
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: to hop out. When they finally had to get down

1323
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: to it, it was like and nobody. I don't know

1324
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: if anybody believed the league was going to get all

1325
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: every single game in without any delays, because the atmosphere

1326
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: just didn't speak to that. And so I'm not holding

1327
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: it against anybody for opting out, especially the big guys.

1328
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: That was the majority of the people that did opt out.

1329
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: It was the bigger players who are more at risk

1330
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: because you get into a respiratory problem with as you

1331
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: catch COVID and you have a respiratory illness, which is

1332
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: what that is, and you got an extra fifty pounds

1333
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: on your chest of muscle weighing down on your lungs

1334
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: when you're trying to breathe. That's a lot harder how

1335
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: you die. So I'm not holding it. I don't know.

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: I know this. The players don't hold it against those

1337
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: other players for opting out. Absolutely not. For some of them,

1338
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: it was probably an easy decision. And I know this too.

1339
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: You get to a certain point and if you aren't

1340
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: one hundred percent in, it's like Lee Smith said to

1341
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: that Nashville radio station, now you gotta you gotta know

1342
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: what you're getting into it. And these long time veterans

1343
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: like Starlo too, Lal, Lee Smith, Drew Brees of Philip Rivers,

1344
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: they know. And it was the same with me when

1345
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: I retired. If you can't dredge up one percent of

1346
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: your passion to go out and play all day every day,

1347
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,879
Speaker 1: you can't play pro football. You can't play you shouldn't

1348
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: be out there, and it's not fair to your your career,

1349
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: is not fair to the game, and it is certainly

1350
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: not fair to your teammates. So, um, if if Starloto

1351
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: La had some huge doubts about how smart it was

1352
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: to go out there, it was one hundred percent right

1353
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: for him to opt out, and the players, I think

1354
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: understand that. But yeah, going big, I'm all for it.

1355
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: I am him in Lineman, Lyneman, especially where they're picking,

1356
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, lowing the round, you're not gonna get the

1357
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: best you know, skill position talent in many cases, or

1358
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: at least the cream of the crop, because those guys

1359
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: come off the board early. Um, but Lineman, you can

1360
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: get him down there at thirty. I mean that's not

1361
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: to say you can't get him higher in the round too,

1362
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 1: but very often some of that line talent gets pushed

1363
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: down because people are going for the shiny toys up

1364
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: at the top of the board. So, you know, hopefully

1365
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: there are some opportunities that present themselves to the bills.

1366
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: One more call before we go to the break here,

1367
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: let's get to Roy and amherst Roy, what do you

1368
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one bills live, Yeah, I

1369
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: was wondering, instead of maybe just upgrading the offensive line,

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: how about just helping him out with like a fullback

1371
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: or you know this guy out of Boston College, he's

1372
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: a fullback running back. Yeah, you can do that. I

1373
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: would say the Bills made a conscious effort not to

1374
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: use a fullback this year at all. So if you're

1375
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna put that fullback on, who you're gonna take off

1376
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: the field is gonna be Gabe Davis, John Brown, Cole Beasley,

1377
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs or Dawson Knox. Somebody has to sit down, right,

1378
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: and I think I think very early in training camp

1379
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: they made the decision we're going to be a team

1380
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: whose identity is going four wide or three while with

1381
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox detached, and that was what ultimately led to

1382
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: the release of the veteran fullback they had here, Pat DeMarco,

1383
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: who's a former Pro bowler at the position. Yeah, So

1384
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: if they're not going to hold on to that guy,

1385
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: who also, by the way, contributed heavily on special teams,

1386
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: I think that's an indication. And could it changed from

1387
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: one year to the next. It could, sure, but I

1388
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: think it's highly unlikely, highly unlikely that they carry a

1389
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: fullback going forward, They're going to carry six seven receivers

1390
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: on this roster and only three backs and here and

1391
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: no fullback. If you're bringing a fullback in, you're bringing

1392
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: somebody from the secondary up to the line of scrimmage

1393
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: to so you're if you bring a guy in, they

1394
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: will too, So right, I mean, it's it's not just

1395
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: about the bodies. It's it's about having a guy that

1396
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 1: matches up better up front. And you know, I'm I

1397
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: think Brownie and I see this the same way, whether

1398
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: I talked him into it or he talked me, and

1399
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: I am all about dominating the line of scrimmage. And

1400
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: I think that's where your run game starts. And if

1401
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: the run game here takes off, know you've got skill

1402
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: position players to take full advantage. I think I think

1403
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: that's your philosophy. For me, it was based on what

1404
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 1: we saw this year, and I think there were still

1405
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: too many weeks this season where the Bill's offensive line

1406
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: did not dominate the line of scrimmage. And if you

1407
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: can't dominate there, you can't execute your place. It's as

1408
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: simple as that, And so I know it's based that's

1409
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of a core philosophy that you have for me,

1410
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: it's based on what we saw this season, which was

1411
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: not enough dominance at the line in enough weeks, in

1412
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: enough games. And yeah, this team won thirteen regular season games,

1413
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: set a team record, but there were still weeks where

1414
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 1: games were closer than they should have been and games

1415
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: were not one based on some line of scrimmage issues,

1416
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: which was tied into not running the ball effectively when

1417
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: they absolutely had to. So that leads me to say, yeah,

1418
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with Steve on that. Get some big guys

1419
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: and let's go. You think back to what they did

1420
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: against Kansas City here in Buffalo on a Monday night

1421
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: game in October, where that was on the other side

1422
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: of the line. Chiefs scored twenty six points because the

1423
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: Bills dared him to run the football. They dared him

1424
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: to run the football, but then couldn't stop him well

1425
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: enough to keep him off the field or to get

1426
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: him into third and long if they had a more

1427
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: dominant defensive line up front. And it was early in

1428
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: the season two October, I mean they were still finding themselves.

1429
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: They were barely out of the preseason if you go

1430
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: by games. They had some things to learn and a

1431
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: ton of new faces. But if they could have stopped

1432
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: the run in that Chiefs game, playing the way they

1433
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: played in the fronts that they played the entire season

1434
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit better and a little

1435
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: different because that team, the Chiefs handed it off more

1436
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: so in that game than any game they played maybe

1437
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: all season. And the Bills held him to twenty six points,

1438
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: but they just couldn't answer them offensively. That was the problem.

1439
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: And so i'm i'm If you can up the run

1440
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: and rush the passer with as few of people as possible,

1441
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of games defensively, a ton

1442
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: of games defensively, and the Bills didn't do that enough

1443
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: this year. Break time for us, But when we come back,

1444
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to some of your comments on the

1445
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We'll also check out the Twitter poll see

1446
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 1: where you're weighing in there. When we return here on

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01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Second half of the

1449
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: program under way here on a Thursday. Chris Brown Steve

1450
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: Tasker with you Twitter poll today, how can the Bills

1451
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: make their passing game unstoppable? And it may not mean

1452
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: adding at the wide receiver position or subtracting, depending on

1453
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: how you feel. As Steve and I were just discussing

1454
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: in the previous segment, it could mean adding an upgrade

1455
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: and talent on the offensive line. Could be a speedback

1456
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: they can catch out of the backfield. I mean, there's

1457
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 1: a number of ways you can go with this, so

1458
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: that is open to you right now. The far and

1459
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: away winner though on the Twitter poll, is adding a

1460
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: proven pass catching tight end. It's got sixty five percent

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01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: of the vote so far. Speed and free agency is

1462
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: a distant second, followed by other and we've had a

1463
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: lot of calls relating to other and then a larger

1464
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: role for Gabe Davis, Isaiah Hodgens and Jake Kumero pulling

1465
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 1: up the rear. It's six and a half percent, and

1466
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the tweet sheet now because it's

1467
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna bring up this most popular voting answer in our

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: Twitter poll and the tweet sheet brought to you by

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01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills from Thunderlicious. They need Dawson Knox to be

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01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: more like Kittle and Kelsey well, that's easier said than done. Hey,

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Speaker 1: at least his last name starts with a K like

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,480
Speaker 1: those two guys. I don't want to get too psychoanalytical

1474
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: about this, but I think most people wish the I'm

1475
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: not saying that I don't either, But the reason everybody

1476
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: wishes they had somebody like that is because it is

1477
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: so frustrating for people to watch those guys play against

1478
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: your team. The Bills have had trouble stopping tight ends

1479
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: for years. I mean, who doesn't trouble stopping those guys

1480
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: Gronk for so many years. Now it's K's a Hall

1481
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, and now it's Kelsey, who's probably on

1482
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: his way there. Also, Kittle's even better. He's fast, healthy, faster,

1483
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: So I think it's I think people say, why can't

1484
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: we get one of those guys? It's so frustrating to

1485
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: have your team decimated by some guy who's not not

1486
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: fast enough to be a tight end, not good enough

1487
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands to be a running back,

1488
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: and still crushes your team. Yeah. I mean, it's just

1489
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons fans want one

1490
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: of those guys on their team, because they just feel

1491
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: like there's no answer for him, but for me, I mean,

1492
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: don't get to go too far down there. I would

1493
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: advise to go too far down that rabbit hole, because

1494
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: what do you think teams like the Dolphins, the Patriots

1495
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: and all these teams think about us having Steph Diggs.

1496
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy had ten tar average double digit

1497
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: targets a game and had six receptions every single game

1498
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: of the season, no matter what is at least, yeah,

1499
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 1: it set an NFL record. I mean, nobody stopped him.

1500
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: What do we think though about knocks because I think

1501
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: he did make progress in the final five six weeks

1502
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: of the season, a little more, a little more consistent,

1503
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: because the first half of the year was a mess

1504
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: for him. He calf injury, COVID list, dropping passes, which

1505
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: was a problem he had the year before. Then the

1506
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: last five or six weeks, I thought he came on.

1507
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: He was a more regular contributor, game was a little

1508
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: more consistent. Still not a great blocker, but that's not

1509
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: why he's here. He's here to be a detached player

1510
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: and an athlete in the passing game. And so I wonder,

1511
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: can can he take another step? Um? I'm not saying

1512
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be Kindler Kelsey next year. But can he

1513
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: take another step and be a better weapon Because you

1514
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: heard Brandon being at the end of the season Steve,

1515
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: he said, we need to add more a tight end,

1516
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: which to me would be an indication that they're looking

1517
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: for somebody more proven and more consistent. Consistency is one

1518
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: thing I mean. And there was a stretch in the

1519
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: season where Dawson Knox was catching a touchdown every week.

1520
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: There's like a three three game stretch where he was open.

1521
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: Then he had one that he dropped as well. I mean,

1522
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: the guy he finds a way to get open. I

1523
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: think he needs to be more consistent. He did make

1524
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: an improvement, a significant improvement this year in his past protection.

1525
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: He did do a much better job this year than

1526
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: he's done at any point in his career thus far.

1527
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: And that's got to continue to improve. But by the

1528
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: same token, he gotta have it every week. And he struggled,

1529
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: he got hurt. I think he got hurt this week.

1530
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: He didn't he was on the COVID list and a

1531
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: calf injury. Staff was a blur. Yeah, So that was

1532
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, all right, Okay, So if he was gonna

1533
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: get better it was derailed by the first half of

1534
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: the season where he couldn't stay on the field, and

1535
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: we saw, you know, Tyler Croft so much. And I

1536
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 1: don't think we should interpret Brandon Bean or coach mcdermot's

1537
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: comments about how they need to get more out of

1538
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 1: the tight end position as an indication they're throwing Dawson

1539
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 1: knocks overboard. I think he is firmly entrenched on this roster,

1540
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: and I still think they believe he's got some ceiling

1541
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: to reach at the position. I mean, we can't forget

1542
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 1: he is still relatively young at the position. He was

1543
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: a quarterback in high school, got converted to tight end

1544
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: in college, and barely factored in the passing game at

1545
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: Old Miss. This guy is still learning the position in

1546
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: many ways, and I think they believe there's some ceiling

1547
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: for him to reach there. But at the same time,

1548
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: Steam's going for it now. They need somebody that they

1549
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: can rely on every single week now, and so I

1550
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: wonder how ardently they look in free agency at the

1551
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: tight end position. Tyler Croft is a free agent. They

1552
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: redid his contract last year at the time to hack

1553
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: a year off of it, and he gets to free

1554
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: agency a year early. But that guy was inactive for

1555
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: most of the year. He is not in the future

1556
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: plans as I see it for the Bills, so you

1557
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: know he's not coming back. Lee Smith is contemplating retirement.

1558
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: He has said as much. Said that last week on

1559
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: a Nashville radio station. He may not be back. So

1560
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: there will be room there and you're not You're not

1561
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: spending an awful lot of money at that position. It

1562
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: might be Dawson Knox, Tommy Sweeney and somebody else and

1563
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: Gigie Gilliam, Reggie Gilliam. I don't know if that's enough.

1564
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do more there. They might, but

1565
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: I will say this, they may have higher expectations in

1566
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: a different evaluation of Dawson Knox than we do, because

1567
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: they may have seen Dawson Knox struggle through the first

1568
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: half of the season and then come in and start

1569
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: to gain traction as the season wore on. I still

1570
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: have high hopes for the guy. Think he's athlete enough,

1571
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: and I think he's got to work hard at getting better,

1572
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: and I think this club will expect him to do that.

1573
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: If he does, you have every reason to believe he's

1574
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna get better. He did get better when he can

1575
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: get on the field. Now, I think he was derailed

1576
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: a little bit by obviously COVID and also the calf injury.

1577
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: He's got to come in and stay healthy and get

1578
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: on the field and stay there for sixteen games. If

1579
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: he does that, you're right. I think his game has

1580
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: a lot of upside, a lot of upside, but he's

1581
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: got to he's got to develop it. He's gotta you know,

1582
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: he's got to catch one hundred and fifty footballs a day.

1583
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: He's got to, you know, get stronger and lean. He's

1584
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: got to get meaner at the line of scrimmage, in

1585
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: pass pro and all of that. But I'm sure that

1586
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: in his exit interview after the season, coaching staff told

1587
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: him some of this stuff. Well, and I think year

1588
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: three has got to be a come on year. You know,

1589
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: he's got to burst onto the scene this year and

1590
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: then keep doing it all the way through. I mean,

1591
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's got to have a job allen year,

1592
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: but he's got to have a breakout year. I mean,

1593
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: they've worked with him for two years now, same coaches.

1594
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: You know, coach Boris at tight end has been grooming

1595
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: him for the last two years. You gotta show out

1596
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: here in year three and stay on the field, stay healthy,

1597
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you this one thing. We know, if

1598
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: you start showing out, they're gonna using you. Yeah, they're

1599
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna give you some opportunity. That's what happened

1600
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: with Gabe Davis the first three weeks of his career.

1601
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: The guys on the field, if you show out, they're

1602
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna use you, and they're gonna be creative and how

1603
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: they get you the football. And I think the Buffalo

1604
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: Bills have no qualms. I mean, let's face it, they

1605
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: know as well as anybody would have tight end can

1606
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: do to somebody. Brian day Bole would love to get

1607
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: his hands on him. He was, you know, so they're

1608
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: all about it. It's not like they're gonna wait, you're

1609
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: gonna waste away if you're If you're there, ready to contribute,

1610
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: break time for us when we come back, more of

1611
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: your comments on the tweet sheet, and coming up in

1612
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: the third hour of the show, about fifteen minutes from now,

1613
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: we'll have one Aaron Wilson from the Houston cry Uncle

1614
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: covers the Texans down there. We'll get his thoughts on

1615
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: where that Deshaun Watson mess is gonna end up among

1616
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: other things down there. J J. Watt, what's his future

1617
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: with a seventeen and a half million dollar cap figure.

1618
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: They'll break it all down for us when we return

1619
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: in a little bit here on One Bill's Live, presented

1620
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio man. We're

1621
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: back talking about how the Bills make their passing game unstoppable.

1622
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: We saw it hit some speed bumps through the course

1623
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: of the year on occasion Titans Chiefs a couple other

1624
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: games as well. How do they make it unstoppable? Maybe

1625
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the receiver position itself,

1626
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: might have to do with the offensive line, could have

1627
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: to do with the running back position improving. Maybe tight end.

1628
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: So let us know where you stand at eight o three,

1629
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: five fifty or on the tweet sheet at One Bills Live.

1630
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: Tiffany on the tweet sheet says, no guarantee it will happen,

1631
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: but if the Eagles cut zach Ertz, he would be

1632
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: a solid addition to our tight end group. Imagine trying

1633
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: to defend our already elite receiving group with a proven

1634
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: all pro pass catching tight end. Our red zone offense

1635
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: would be fierce. It's not the first time we heard

1636
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: Zach's name. Zach Ertz's name come up. Yeah, the problem

1637
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: is the Bills probably aren't the only team that's interested. Well,

1638
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: that is true, although he's the caliber of player that

1639
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: is gonna find themselves on the street and those guys

1640
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: are going to be out there, So it'll be interesting

1641
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: to see if the Bills can pull one of those

1642
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: guys in it. Whether it's him or not, or you know,

1643
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: you can take your pick, but yeah, I mean, it

1644
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: makes some sense if you can sign him, no question

1645
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: about it. He's a he's a really good player, thirty

1646
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: years old, currently entering the last year of a five year,

1647
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: forty two and a half million dollar contract. So he's

1648
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: a cap hit of twelve point four for the Eagles.

1649
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: If they trade Carson Wentz, they're not going to be

1650
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: able to keep a guy like zach Ertz because they're

1651
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: going to be having thirty four million in dead cap

1652
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: added onto their cap. They can't take another I mean,

1653
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: he saves them five million by releasing him. He puts

1654
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: seven point seven in dead cap on their cap, which

1655
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: doesn't help, but it's twelve if he's on the roster,

1656
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: so you save five by getting rid of him and

1657
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: even zach Ertz at the end of the season, he

1658
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: was like blubbering and crying that he wasn't gonna be

1659
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: there or didn't anticipate being there after twenty season, Which

1660
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: what could you get a guy like that? Four? You know? Yeah,

1661
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: it's a good question. He's gonna turn thirty one this year,

1662
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: so he's no Spring chicken. Um, but still came more

1663
01:28:54,600 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: than name for one or two three tops, right, Uh yeah,

1664
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally I'm I'm down with that. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1665
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: from that, And that's the tenor of the entire Twitter poll.

1666
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: It's about it which tight end can we grab or

1667
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: who's gonna play better? From t estelle, I stole this

1668
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: from someone else. Is there a way Duke Williams can

1669
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: be used as a tight end? He's a big guy

1670
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: with great hands. I just think he's not being used

1671
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Team Duke. Uh. We already had that about Jake Krumer.

1672
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Somebody said, why can't you convert one of these wide

1673
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: receivers into the time? It ain't you can't. No, you

1674
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: can't take too long. It takes too long. It's a

1675
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: it's not just about lining up someplace different. You gotta

1676
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: have a different skill set, and yeah, switching one of

1677
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,759
Speaker 1: these and it takes years. That's why you know. Football

1678
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: is not like any other sport. It's specialized at almost

1679
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: at every position, specialized. And you can't take this guy

1680
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: and stick him over here. And you can't take a

1681
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: right winger and stick him on the left side like

1682
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: he in hockey. Right, it's not like that. A little different,

1683
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like that. You can't take

1684
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: a big wide receiver and make him into a tight end.

1685
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: You can't take a nifty running back and make him

1686
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: into a wide receiver. It doesn't work like that. I

1687
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: know it makes some logical sense, but it takes too

1688
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: long to do that. And look at we've used this

1689
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 1: example earlier in the program. I'll do it again. Logan Thomas,

1690
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 1: the Bills helped him switch from being a quarterback to

1691
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: a tight end. Five years later he gets it done

1692
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: in Washington. Yeah, five years, I don't you know. And

1693
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: that's great, but it helped Logan Thomas. The Bill's decision

1694
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: to maybe human at the time had helped Logan Toan

1695
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: didn't help the Bills it's not helping them. That With

1696
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Chris Manherts too, you know, they tried to develop him

1697
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: here for a couple of years, practice squad whatever, whatever,

1698
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: didn't hold on to him. He goes down to Carolina.

1699
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Four years later he's playing in the league at tight

1700
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: end and he was he was a basketball player. Four

1701
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: years later. It takes a while. It takes a while.

1702
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: It's it's you know, so that's that's what we're looking at.

1703
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all four of those guys making the move.

1704
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: U Tyree Jackson is starting to think about becoming a

1705
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: tight end. The quarterback from you b that's so physically gifted,

1706
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: might be he might be the next Logan Thomas. So

1707
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to do. Yeah, can you imagine you

1708
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 1: can't just do it, especially at the highest level of

1709
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: the sport, right. You know, It's one thing if you know,

1710
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: the coach in high school says, well, we like you

1711
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: better is this, and then you get over there and

1712
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a good enough athlete, you're gonna

1713
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: still shine anyway. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at

1714
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: this level. A little bit different animal. Yeah, but it's

1715
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: you think about it. The difference between taking a snap,

1716
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: dropping back and slinging the quick out to being on

1717
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: the end of the line of scrimmage and stepping towards

1718
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: the football instead of up the field and taking on

1719
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: a defensive end. It's a different skill set. A little

1720
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: bit from Anthony on the tweet sheet, I think we

1721
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: need to add a bigger threat to our running game

1722
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: to help the pass. Moss and Singletary are good, but

1723
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: they don't change the way the defense plays the Bills.

1724
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: How about that specific premise, Steve, Zack Moss and Devin

1725
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: Singletary don't change the way a defense plays the Bills.

1726
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Does that hold water for you? I see the logic.

1727
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: But you can have a You can have a really

1728
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: good running game with Zach Moss and Devin Singletary if

1729
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: you get your offensive line straight and hand them the ball.

1730
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: I think those guys can get it done now, no question.

1731
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: If you get a faster guy, it raises the envelope

1732
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: for what you can do in the running game, no question.

1733
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: And the Bills running game just was not productive enough,

1734
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: consistently enough. And because of that, you know people, you

1735
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 1: know the first place you look is the guy's holding

1736
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the ball. But I think upfront is where you know

1737
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: the Bills need to improve their running game. Those guys

1738
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: are elusive. I think Devin Singletary has proven he can

1739
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: make guys miss in tight spaces. Zach Moss. I love

1740
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: the way he finishes runs. He's a physical runner, and

1741
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: when they get a lot of opportunity in some space,

1742
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: they can make it work. And I think that's I

1743
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: think that's my thought about it. I don't think it's

1744
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: the Yeah, you can bring another running back in, but

1745
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: what are you gonna get draft another third round or

1746
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: that's what those two guys are. I'm not even for

1747
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 1: one of the guys like at N or anybody else.

1748
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, go that high break

1749
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: time for us. When we return, we will have one

1750
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson, Houston Texans beat reporter for the Houston Chronicle.

1751
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: He'll be joining us when we return. As we talked

1752
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson situation, what's to become of J J.

1753
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 1: Watt and just what the heck is going on down

1754
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 1: there and what has been a messy situation in the

1755
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: Houston organization. We'll check in with him when we return

1756
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: here On One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health.

1757
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, Blow Bills Radio Network Sports Update,

1758
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Your Sports Update from One Bill's Drive. The NFL wants

1759
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: to finalize the framework of new television deals before setting

1760
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one salary cap. That, according to CNBC

1761
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: It's implies that the league could be inclined to shift

1762
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: some future earnings toward twenty twenty one, potentially bumping up

1763
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: the salary cap for this year. It's currently expected to

1764
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: land in the range of one hundred and eighty million

1765
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: per team. It's possible that if the money to be

1766
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: earned under the next wave of media contracts represents a

1767
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: sufficient increase in revenues, some of that money could be

1768
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: moved around in order to make more cap room available

1769
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 1: to all teams In the coming season. New Rams quarterback

1770
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford revealed that he had partially torn ligament in

1771
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: the thumb of his throwing hand, a torn UCL in

1772
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: his left elbow, and toward cartilage and his eighth rib.

1773
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,799
Speaker 1: In the middle of the season in Green Bay, Stafford

1774
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: city also dealt with a PCL tear in the back

1775
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: of his left knee, along with an ankle injury, and

1776
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: wonder the guy wanted out of Detroit. Ravens left tackle

1777
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown has expressed his desire to be traded. After

1778
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: spending the majority of the twenty twenty season on the

1779
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 1: left side of the line in place of the injured

1780
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, Brown does not want to return to the

1781
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: right side. According to reports, He's saying he's only going

1782
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: to play for a team that will line him up

1783
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: at the left tackle position. Baltimore finished as the league's

1784
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: number one rushing offense for a second straight year. Seahawks

1785
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: QB Russell Wilson's comments on The Dan Patrick Show earlier

1786
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,879
Speaker 1: this week that he's tired of getting hit has apparently

1787
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: rubbed the Seahawks brass the wrong way. On The Dan

1788
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Show, Patrick said Wilson's appearance on his program as

1789
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks annoyed that Wilson took his frustrations public. Have

1790
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: to wonder how that situation plays out this offseason. And

1791
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 1: Jesse Pagoula, the twenty six year old daughter of Bills

1792
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: and sabers as Terry and Kim Bagoula, took just fifty

1793
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: minutes to take down two eleven US Open champ in

1794
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: Australian native Samantha Stoger six love six one. Bagoula will

1795
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: play her third round match Saturday against Christina Mladenovich of France.

1796
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: I have to slow down and think about how to

1797
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: say that every time I see that name. That is

1798
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: your sports update from One Bill's Drive, Chris Brown, Steve

1799
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: Tasker taking names in Australia. Our number of three. Let's

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01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: go yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, we'll see us us

1801
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,799
Speaker 1: fifty minutes. That is workout. Yeahs barely breaking a sweat

1802
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: in tennis. Yeah, go in and maybe get back on

1803
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: and get on the bike after that round, after that match, right,

1804
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: That is making some quick work if you're opponent in

1805
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: a tennis match for sure. Our number three of the program,

1806
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, broadcasting live from the

1807
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Seneca Studios here in Orchard Park and joining us on

1808
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: the line right now. Beat reporter for the Houston Texans

1809
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: for the Houston Chronicle. Also covers league news at large

1810
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL as well. It is one Aaron Wilson

1811
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: on the line. Aaron, how are you doing? Thanks for

1812
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: taking some time to join us, see you guys, thank

1813
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you for having me. So I'm gonna go off the

1814
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 1: page here because you're probably expecting us to start with

1815
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to talk to you about him for about

1816
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: the next twenty minutes, but I wanted to get your

1817
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: thoughts on, you know, JJ Watt, final year of the contract,

1818
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: big cap figure, you know, probably not going to be

1819
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 1: in Houston when we get to September of this calendar year.

1820
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: So how do you think that plays out? And who

1821
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: do you think could be the likely suitors for a

1822
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 1: guy like that assuming he's not in Houston right, Great question, Chris.

1823
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: I do think it's unlikely that JJ will return, and

1824
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: I think because JJ doesn't want to be part of

1825
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: a rebuild, and that's what they're facing here in Houston,

1826
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 1: whether Deshaun Watson's a part of the equation or not.

1827
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: So for JJ, who's doing non guaranteed seventeen a half

1828
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: million dollar base salary, it makes more sense for him

1829
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 1: to play somewhere else, believe with Pittsburgh Steelers, reuniting with

1830
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: his brothers Derek Watt and TJ Watt, or the hometown

1831
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. He's a Milwaukee guy. I think that

1832
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks make a lot of sense, and do

1833
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and playing with Tom Brady, I'm

1834
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: sure will be something they'll be attractive for JJ Watt.

1835
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, for JJ, he's given all you can to

1836
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: this franchise. He's won three NFL Defense Player the Year trophies,

1837
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: but he's never even been to the AFC Championship Game,

1838
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: unlike the other teams in the division. And I think

1839
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 1: for JJ, it's the fair thing, the right outcome, and

1840
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,560
Speaker 1: if they were even close to being contender, I know

1841
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: JJ would be all in. And it is worth noting

1842
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: JJ hasn't said anything other than what he made very

1843
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: clear during the regular season that losing really really bites

1844
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: for him. He cannot take it. He's you know, intolerant

1845
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: of anything better than no winning. And you know, I

1846
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 1: can't blame the guy. I think that, yes, it's time

1847
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 1: for these guys, even though it would be an emotional goodbye,

1848
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: that's the right thing for JJ, and I think the

1849
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: right thing for the franchise, for younger players, for them

1850
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: to develop. So so, what do you think a contract

1851
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: for him looks like? You think he's taken a one

1852
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: year deal in a restrictive cap market and then try to,

1853
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, maybe take another swing next year when the

1854
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: cap gets back to a normal range, or do you

1855
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: think he looks for a final career type deal, you know,

1856
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: two or two years with an option here or something

1857
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, I think JJ's rate of pay

1858
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: still needs to be, you know, somewhere between thirteen to

1859
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year. So you know, maybe something

1860
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 1: where you're looking at, you know, a two year contract

1861
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: that's about thirty million dollars and guarantee a lot of

1862
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 1: it would be something that you know would at least

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01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: be he'd be amenable to. The big thing, though, is

1864
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: winning because JJ has made a lot of money. He's

1865
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: played under one hundred million dollars contract and JJ makes

1866
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money from Rebuck You probably heard about

1867
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: some of his other endorsements, so it's not going to

1868
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: be only finance actually rated. But yeah, it has to

1869
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: be a respectful contract as you would expect for a

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01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: player that's only thirty one years old and had five

1871
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: sacks and led the team in sacks and quarterback hits

1872
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 1: this past year. So yeah, JJ is still a good

1873
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: football player. He was just on a bad defense last season,

1874
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, is he still capable of seven

1875
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: to ten sacks you know, while maybe playing a few

1876
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 1: less snaps than he did for Houston. Yeah, I believe

1877
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: that's something he still has in his capabilities, and I

1878
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: would not be surprised to see JJ find success elsewhere.

1879
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not pushing him out the door. I mean,

1880
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I really have enjoyed covering JJ, interviewing JJ, get to

1881
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: know him. A great guy, and I think that he'll

1882
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: be successful in everything he does. And he's been really

1883
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: good off the field with all the charity stuff and

1884
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: anything he does with television or movie appearances. I wouldn't

1885
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 1: put any limits on J. J. Watt. And since we're

1886
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 1: talking about him leaving, let's talk about the elephant in

1887
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 1: the room. It seems completely dysfunctional in Houston. From the

1888
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: outside looking in, it looks you know, you just mentioned

1889
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 1: they hired a character character assistant for the franchise, which

1890
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: is not uncommon in the National Football League these days.

1891
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts about where this franchise has headed,

1892
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: what their next step is. David Culley was a little

1893
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise for a lot of people. What

1894
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about where the franchise is, it's next step,

1895
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 1: and what we can expect in the near future at

1896
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: least right they are at a kind of a crossroads

1897
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: here where they're trying for a fresh start with a

1898
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: new general manager who's very accomplished, you know, as the

1899
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: lieutenant to Bill Belichick, nickos Sario, and now he's running

1900
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: his own show. And then you have Jack Easterby's going

1901
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,799
Speaker 1: to help him work closely with him, like Dylan Thompson

1902
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: whom he's close to and actually recommended for his first

1903
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: job with Charleston Southern Basketball that was kind of apologized

1904
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: for being late. That's I was writing a quick story

1905
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: on Dylan joining the staff and he was with the

1906
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 1: Lions past three years as a character coach. So character

1907
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: is important, and you want to have someone help these

1908
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: players off the field with their transition. It's not just

1909
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 1: about religion, but you know, getting settled in a new city,

1910
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: any things they may have. You know, they come up

1911
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,600
Speaker 1: off the field. And David Culley, as you guys know,

1912
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: good guy, good coach, but he's never been a head

1913
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: coach before, so he has some questions to answer as

1914
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: he steps into that role. What I've heard about him

1915
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: from John Harbaugh and a lot of the assistants from

1916
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore and also from guys that just have known him

1917
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: a long time, like Gary Kubiak who worked with the

1918
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Texas a and m or RC Slocum, who was his boss.

1919
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 1: Really good person, really good teacher. And I think that

1920
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: translates fine if you're not being a coordinator, if you're

1921
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 1: running the team and you're being that CEO type of coach.

1922
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 1: And I would expect him to run a nice collegial atmosphere.

1923
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, you got to know him. You know,

1924
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. I don't think that it'll be

1925
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, very confrontational with the players. I think they'll

1926
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 1: enjoy playing for him. It's just a question of who's

1927
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: playing for him. I think it's more about personnel than

1928
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: the atmosphere. I know it probably seems a little crazier

1929
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 1: than maybe it is, so in my opinion, the perception

1930
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: obviously becomes the reality. So, yeah, they've had a lot

1931
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: of bad press, they had a lot of you know,

1932
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: change in the past year, and some of this, you know,

1933
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 1: when you have regime changes, it's not always you know,

1934
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: neat untidy. You know, you have change and some you know,

1935
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: firings that happen. People get you know, very you know

1936
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: upset about, but they do happen. You know, that can

1937
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 1: include equipment managers, to include include the salary cap guy,

1938
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Kravivitch and Mike Carson, respectively. But yeah, I think

1939
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 1: when you look at the Texans and where they are

1940
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: right now, they're at a time of transition. They're probably

1941
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: not going to be the most competitive team this year,

1942
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of big questions facing them,

1943
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: including JJ Watty we addressed at the start, and then

1944
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 1: also Deshaun Watson. So you know, people have been quick

1945
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: to toss out their opinions on where this thing is

1946
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: headed with you know, Deshaun Watson and the organization. You know,

1947
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: you've got your ear firmly planted to the ground down there.

1948
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: Do you think the relationship is you know, is it

1949
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: irreparable or can it be saved? As you see it

1950
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: with what you know about the situation right it's a

1951
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 1: very negative situation because the quarterback Deshaun Watson, who's commendable

1952
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: on and off the field, feels misled by the owner,

1953
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: kl McNair's chairman and CEO of the team. And because

1954
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 1: he feels this way, and obviously kil McNair is not

1955
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: stepping aside. That makes things very complicated because how did

1956
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: those two guys man demand fix their relationship when he's

1957
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: not talking to them. You know, he's had a text

1958
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: message or two from kil McNair communicating privately his apology.

1959
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: He's also apologized publicly. And I think my understanding of

1960
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: it is that Deshaun Watson's expectations of being heavily involved

1961
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 1: and what kil McNair thought would happen. I think he

1962
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 1: thought be more about the coaching, you know, the head coach,

1963
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: not the general manager higher. But he was very upset

1964
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,640
Speaker 1: to learn on social media. And I think if they

1965
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: had even just texted him and told him, hey, we're

1966
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: about to make this higher, you should know I know this.

1967
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: They did not repeat that with David Culley. He was

1968
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: informed that they were making this higher and he was

1969
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 1: invited prior to the higher, you know, to give input

1970
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: at that point, though he was in such a state

1971
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 1: after the general manager situation, and you've seen he's taking

1972
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: them off their social media and you know, for millennials

1973
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. I know that some other people

1974
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: would say, well, why is that a big deal? That's

1975
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 1: ghosting someone's I'm not trying to be funny that that's

1976
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: a big deal. If you're in your twenties and you

1977
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: take someone off the social media, you have nothing to

1978
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: do with them anymore. Basically, you follow each other, you

1979
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: block each other, that kind of thing. That's a big deal.

1980
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: And you know some of the things that people do nowadays.

1981
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: Social media finds a lot of people, and Sean is

1982
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: a big social media guy. So for on that platform,

1983
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 1: for him to take the Texas off and list himself

1984
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: now as an athlete, that's basically like him considering himself

1985
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: a free agent. And where he might wind up, you know,

1986
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: that could be anywhere. There are a lot of teams

1987
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 1: that obviously would be interested in Jashan, and they haven't

1988
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: gotten to that point though. They're not taking calls on

1989
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: him or in terms of like saying, hey, we want

1990
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: we want to trade him, you know, send us a

1991
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: good offer. I mean, people call them, but the answer

1992
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: is we're not interested. And then for Watson, he's not

1993
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 1: responding to them. So this is a stalemate right now.

1994
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 1: And I don't see this thing thawing. I just don't

1995
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: anticipate that. But doing a play by play of a relationship,

1996
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, you know, It's kind of like

1997
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,520
Speaker 1: people that cover the you know, celebrity feuds or celebrity relationships.

1998
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: You know, it almost becomes kind of a strange thing

1999
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: for a sports reporter to get into because you know,

2000
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: where's this relationship, how do they feel? And without being

2001
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: a mind reader, I talked to a lot of people

2002
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 1: that are close to the situation, but without actually hearing

2003
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: from Dashawan, hearing to directly from Deshaun, I can only

2004
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 1: go off of his actions and those that know him best.

2005
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 1: And I trust the information I've been given, but I

2006
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: don't see it heading in a toward a reconciliation. And

2007
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if things you could be worked out,

2008
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: and then there's all kinds of things that can happen

2009
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: later if he's not traded, then you start getting into finds,

2010
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 1: lost game checks, potential, a lot of money left on

2011
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: the table. And I think for both parties say they

2012
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: need to figure something out, and they need to figure

2013
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 1: it out before the draft. What is this? You know,

2014
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 1: what do you think this is going to look like?

2015
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson not showing up for OTA's mini camp, training camp,

2016
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: regular season? Do you think he completely stone walls him

2017
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: until they are forced to make a move, and if so,

2018
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: how far do you think it will go before the

2019
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Texans sever ties in one way or another? Right, Yeah,

2020
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't expect then to be part of

2021
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: what I anticipated being a virtual off season. And I

2022
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: think that is and you know, a big deal in

2023
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: the sense of, you know, that's not something that you

2024
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: know they're going to, you know, get highly upset about.

2025
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: But you know, I think where it heads is, Yeah,

2026
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 1: the mini camp if they don't trade him, you know,

2027
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: prior to the draft, training camp and then possibly missing

2028
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: games and that's a price of by the way, six

2029
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: hundred twenty thousand dollars game check per week, so it

2030
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: gets extremely expensive. Does he have the funds to withstand that, Yes,

2031
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: yes he does. You know he wouldn't you know, he's

2032
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 1: already been paid a large bonus. Sorry excuse me, um,

2033
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 1: he's already you know, had you know, one hundred and

2034
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,799
Speaker 1: fifty six million dollars contract. This is not a financial

2035
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: issue for Deshaun Watson. This comes down to a loss

2036
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:53,440
Speaker 1: of faith from Deshaun and broken trust, really broken relationship,

2037
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: and it started with DeAndre Hopkins being traded and him

2038
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: finding out on social media. There was you know not.

2039
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, even though the negotiation went fine,

2040
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: I think from his standpoint, you know, was he you know,

2041
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: completely with no reservations when he signed it. I don't

2042
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 1: believe that he was. And then the season was so

2043
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 1: poor and they fired Bell O'Brien and they've had so

2044
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: much change and it's just been messy, and you know

2045
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 1: Deshaun's words at the end of the season. You probably

2046
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,440
Speaker 1: have seen that interview. You know that there's no foundation

2047
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 1: and they need something to stand on. And is he

2048
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of that? I don't know. I

2049
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: would say it's unlikely given his current stance, that he's

2050
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 1: a part of it. And I don't think the Texans

2051
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: want an unhappy quarterback with him basically just being forced to,

2052
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, to work here. I don't think that anybody

2053
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: wants that, not cal mcbair, not Nick Kissario, not David Culley,

2054
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: not Jack Easterby, and not Deshaun Watson or his agent

2055
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: David Moulighetta. You want this to be a good experience

2056
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: for Deshaun. This is one of the most dynamic players

2057
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL and a really good guy who does

2058
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: a ton off the field. In terms of scholarships for kids,

2059
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 1: helping be for families, doing a lot for children in

2060
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: Houston and in Gainesville, Georgia's hometown. So yeah, I mean

2061
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times would happens sometimes when

2062
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 1: someone's unhappy, then there starts to become a lot of

2063
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: character assassination. There's nothing wrong with his character. He's a

2064
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: good person. He stands for what he stands for. And yeah,

2065
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: I think if he has concerns, they have to be

2066
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 1: treated really seriously and as a legitimate thing. It's on

2067
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: the organization. Some of it, I would say, is circumstance.

2068
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,959
Speaker 1: Some of its misunderstanding. Some of it's probably some legitimate,

2069
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, reasons for worry that would probably concern most

2070
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,839
Speaker 1: people if they were basically a partner of the franchise,

2071
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: which is what franchise quarterback is. Yeah. So yeah, it's

2072
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 1: a negative situation. It is probably an understatement and I

2073
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: could choose by words, you know, feettle more bold with them.

2074
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's bad. It's just a bad feel

2075
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 1: all around. And whether it gets fixed. I couldn't predict,

2076
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, because I who can predict what someone's move

2077
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 1: might be like? He could, you know, tomorrow feel differently.

2078
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, but right now I don't see that changing.

2079
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 1: Talking to Aaron Wilson from the Houston Chronicle Houston Texans

2080
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: bid rapporter and last one from me, Aaron is Leslie

2081
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: Frasier was considered. I guess. I don't know if this

2082
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: is too strong a term. You can tell tell me

2083
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, but I think he was a finalist

2084
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 1: for the job. So too was Eric b Enemy, two

2085
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 1: of maybe the more popular names before David Culley kind

2086
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 1: of came out of the weeds and all of a

2087
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: sudden he was a front runner. Right, maybe can you

2088
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: just spell out if you can, how close it came

2089
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 1: to Leslie Frasier being considering an option there, Right, he

2090
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:01,759
Speaker 1: was very close. Only two coaches were flown into Houston,

2091
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: and Leslie was one of them. So right before David Culley,

2092
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: he flew in, had a really great interview, and I

2093
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: don't think they were you know, had all the same

2094
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: ideas about staffing and how that would work. And I

2095
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 1: think Leslie is someone that has very strong beliefs for

2096
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Speaker 1: how he wanted to fill out his potential coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: And you know, my understanding of the way the process went,

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01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 1: he had a very good chance and was at one

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Speaker 1: point people were, you know, a few were considering him

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01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: like he was a leading candidate, and then Cully blew

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Speaker 1: them away in the interview. And also they felt like

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Speaker 1: with Cully that they shared the same vision for how

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01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,759
Speaker 1: to shape the staff, which has a lot of input

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01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 1: from Nick Cassio and you know, them helping him fill

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01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 1: out his staff. You're seeing some connections to Nick and

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01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,200
Speaker 1: some to David and how they formed the staff. But yeah,

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01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: I think Leslie had some very specific ideas, a lot

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01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: of names in mind for how he wanted to do it.

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01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 1: So did Jim Calledwell? And I would actually say that

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01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: Jim called Well instead of Eric the Enemy would have

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01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: been closer to getting the job then. And Jim also

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Speaker 1: interviewed twice. Those were the three guys in interview twice

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Speaker 1: and once in person Josh McCown, who may still wind

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01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: up with a role on the staff. So yeah, that

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01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: was kind of how it went with that. And yeah, Leslie,

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01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 1: I would say finished second to David Culley and he'll

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01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: be a strong candidate. But once he was flown home,

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01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 1: that was kind of, as one source close to the

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01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,640
Speaker 1: situation told me, that kind of told you all you

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01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 1: needed to know that he wasn't asked to stay in

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01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Houston and start negotiating. So once he was sent back

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01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 1: to Buffalo flew home, then that was pretty much it.

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01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 1: And Cully stepped in and they asked Cully to stay overnight.

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01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: They went up doing that contract that night, his interview,

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01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: and they extended the interview more than once during the day,

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01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,680
Speaker 1: just kind of went on and became an all date thing,

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01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: and they were feeling good about it, and they offered

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: him the job. And now he has a five year

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01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 1: contract track and you know it's worth about twenty million

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01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 1: dollars and so yeah, he's the coach. All right. Aaron,

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: thanks for all the info and all the details. We

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01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: appreciate the time he gave us today and I'm sure

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01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,719
Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you later in the offseason. All right, guys,

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01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Appreciate you all right. Aaron Wilson

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01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle Houston Texans b reporter. He is

2136
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: a detail oriented guy, always has been, even going back

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01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: to his time when he was covering the Ravens. So

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01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: good to get the four one one on how things

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01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: ultimately played out with Frazier because I was curious because

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01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 1: it really looked like he was right there at the end.

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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, they're getting to the finish line, and he's

2142
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: still in the race. It's usually typical or similar in

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: a lot of hires, where they get down to the

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01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: last couple of candidates and there are some philosophical differences

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01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: that they got to get through some things where these

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01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: coaches come in. And let's face it, if you're gonna

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01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: if you're high powered and qualified enough to get into

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01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 1: that room to take an interview for a head coaching spot,

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01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: you've got some core beliefs, and you've also got some

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01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: people who you know, who you've spoken to, and like

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01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: these guys do that you're gonna need on your staff

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01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: and gonna want on your staff because they share your

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01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: core beliefs, and they can also offer you a lot

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01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: more outside the lines as well. And if you get

2155
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: in there and the ownership group, the GM whoever president,

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01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: don't agree with those core beliefs or won't give you

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01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: freedom to hire one hundred percent of your staff, well

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01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: depending on how much of that one hundred percent they

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01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: want to hire, it can be like I don't know, yeah,

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01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 1: I think that's where the rub was. I think Leslie

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01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: Fraser said, in no uncertain terms, I want full autonomy

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01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: on who I'm hiring for my coaching staff. And I

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01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: understand completely while you want that, yeah, because you're if

2164
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 1: you're knack, you've never worked with those two guys before,

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01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 1: you at least want the guys that are working for

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01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 1: you to be your guys. So I totally get that,

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01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 1: And it looks like it sounds based on what Aaron said,

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01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: it sounds as though Nick Casserio and Easterby wanted some

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01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: say or at least some influence and who was added

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01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. And Leslie Fraser's probably thankful that

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01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 1: well he wasn't formally offered the job, because you're not

2172
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna let me hire my guys how you expect me

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01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: to be successful or at least trust you to let

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01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 1: me be successful. It is also commonplace for us, me

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01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: and you and everybody when you hear about guys who

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01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 1: didn't get offered the job, which may be true, but

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01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: it also may be that why they weren't offered the

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01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 1: job is not that they weren't qualified, and they weren't

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01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 1: the kind of the guys that guys wanted to do,

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01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: because I mean, I didn't doubt that for a second.

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01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier's qualified. Everybody knows, same thing with Eric Bienemy. See,

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01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 1: and we've said a ton here on this show. You

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01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: think Dan and Campbell, the tight ends coach for the Saints,

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01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: is the best candidate for the Detroit Lions job, I don't.

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01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I like the guy. He's been an interim

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01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 1: head coach. But you're telling me guys who are coordinators,

2187
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: who have been working at it for a long time.

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, because they go in there

2189
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: and they say, listen, if you want this to work,

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01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 1: here's how you gotta do it. You gotta do A

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01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 1: B and C. And the people who are in charge

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01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: of hire and go, well, we'll do A and half

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01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: of B, but we ain't doing cy. Thanks but no thanks,

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: and they say well and it goes. It goes sideways

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01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 1: from there and they don't get People are going, that's it, Yeah,

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01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: that's it. That's how most of these guys happened. And

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 1: that's how you get down to David Culley and Dan Campbell, right,

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01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: And I hate to say it, and I'm not disrespecting

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01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 1: those guys I'm just saying they're willing to make concessions

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01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: to get that, right. That's what I think Leslie Frasier was,

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01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 1: and good on him for not because more often than

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01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 1: not in this league, when you may those concessions, it

2203
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: does not work out. We have an example right here

2204
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I mean when Tom Donahoe was the general

2205
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 1: manager and they did not renew Greg Williams contract. They

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01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 1: had a defensive staff that they wanted to keep intact,

2207
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: and they basically told Mike Malarkey, you can be the

2208
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: head coach here, but you're inheriting this defensive staff. And

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01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: it was the first time head coaching job for Mike Malarkey,

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01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 1: and I think he wanted the job bad enough that

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01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: he said, all right, I'll do it. And it was

2212
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: a disaster. And two years later, everybody's out of a job,

2213
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: including the GM, and Mike Malarkey quits. Right, Mike Malarkey

2214
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to return on his own terms, but

2215
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 1: the GM was getting bounced and he said, yeah, thanks,

2216
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: but no thanks. Right. It was a mess. It was

2217
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: a mess, and I unfortunately anticipate much of the same

2218
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 1: for Houston going forward, if in fact they want to

2219
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: be that heavy handed in who the coaching staff ultimately

2220
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: becomes because they haven't been hired at a breakneck pace

2221
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 1: down there with the coaching staff, and it's probably because

2222
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: they're having a hard time finding people. Well they're Yeah,

2223
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm I've said before and and I don't want to

2224
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,480
Speaker 1: it's probably an exaggeration, but I'll exaggerate just to make

2225
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: a point. I think they got some stiff arms. Oh,

2226
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right on that. I

2227
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 1: think they got guys quality candidates, black guys, white guys,

2228
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: experienced head coaches, first time head the whole gamut. I

2229
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 1: think there's a ton of guys who said, you know what,

2230
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna work. I'm backing away from the tire fire.

2231
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I hope you understand. Yeah, I say, I'm gonna thank

2232
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,839
Speaker 1: you for the opportunity, but I this is not the experience,

2233
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 1: this is not the opportunity that I'm looking for. Break

2234
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: time for us. But when we return, we will get

2235
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: back to your comments on the tweet sheet to see

2236
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 1: what you think the Bills need to do to turn

2237
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 1: their passing game into a completely unstoppable force. Every single

2238
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 1: week of the season. We'll get into that when we

2239
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by a lot

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Speaker 1: of health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Come back to One

2241
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: Bills Live. I'm telling you, man, we could do a

2242
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: show with what we've discussed during the breaks. Reeks man. Okay,

2243
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: Steve doesn't like it when a twitter pole gets one sided.

2244
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 1: He gets very agitated. Man, It's not a pole anymore.

2245
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 1: It's just a you know, it's just an exercising futility obviousness. Uh.

2246
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 1: Jeremy on the tweet sheet says, despite the cap situation,

2247
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: I'd love to see a big time proven tight income

2248
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. It's been the one position that would help

2249
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: the passing game even more in the flats and shore

2250
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: yardage gains. Definitely helping an aging Beasley too. Down the road, Um,

2251
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Bobby says, I think getting a more consistent pass catcher

2252
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 1: a tight end is most but ending speed is a

2253
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: close second. As we are competing with the Chiefs, Now,

2254
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, Steve, you look at the wide

2255
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: receiver position in impending free agency, Okay, because you have

2256
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: a you have enough youth on the roster at the

2257
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:09,919
Speaker 1: time at the receiver position in Jake Coumereau in Gabriel

2258
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 1: Davis and in Isaiah Hodgins who didn't play this year. Listen,

2259
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 1: you got some guys coming out. Well, yes, you do

2260
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: free agency, though in terms of pure speed type players, Okay,

2261
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 1: you have Curtis Samuel and Carolina and you have John

2262
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 1: Ross Cincinnati. Those two guys can fly. So if you

2263
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:36,360
Speaker 1: want to add speed, you got Curtis Samuel who's a

2264
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: four three high four threes guy, and you got John

2265
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 1: Ross who runs in the high four twos. So if

2266
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 1: speed is what you need, those guys most definitely fill

2267
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: the bill. And I find John Ross interesting because, yes,

2268
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 1: injuries have been a problem in his career, there's no

2269
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:59,160
Speaker 1: doubting that. But in twenty nineteen, AJ Green goes down

2270
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: with an injuries, gonna be lost for ten weeks. They

2271
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 1: bumped John Ross up into the number one role and

2272
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 1: he tears it up for about four weeks and really

2273
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 1: shows that you know, he can do something. He would

2274
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: not have to be that here. He'd probably be the third,

2275
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 1: maybe even the fourth option. He's twenty seven. But if

2276
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: he can tear the cover off the top of a defense,

2277
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 1: now you're doing something. And that's a guy that does

2278
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 1: run like Tyreek Hill so if you want that, I

2279
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: think John Ross is a consideration. They got think about it.

2280
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:35,920
Speaker 1: He got aj Green at the top of the list,

2281
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:40,120
Speaker 1: but he's thirty two, thirty three, thirty three, Alan t

2282
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 1: Y Hilton. He's the same thing, starting to get hurt

2283
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 1: too much. Larry Fitzgerald's thirty eight, he's retiring. Sammy is

2284
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, I'm not I'm not buying. I'm not either.

2285
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm not either. I think John Ross is a consideration

2286
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 1: number one because he's still young. Twenty seven. Number two.

2287
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 1: I think you can get him at a relatively affordable price.

2288
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: He made four You can't be swinging big in free

2289
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: agency this year if you're the Bills. He made four

2290
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 1: point three last year, right, and you know this is

2291
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: his second contract, but he's had an up and down

2292
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: career to this point. I think if you now this

2293
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 1: is all assuming that you may have to make a

2294
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 1: difficult decision at the receiver position. A lot of people

2295
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: believe that John Brown could potentially be a cap casualty

2296
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 1: if they want to make some moves. I think the

2297
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: same problem exists on the defensive line with some guys

2298
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 1: under contract. We'll have to wait and see how they

2299
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 1: choose to navigate all that. But if you do make

2300
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 1: a subtraction at receiver with one of your veteran guys,

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02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: and Brown would seem to stick out the most because

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02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 1: he represents the most savings. I think John Ross is

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Speaker 1: a guy you can look at and you don't have

2304
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Speaker 1: to pay as much as he paid John Brown, and

2305
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:53,240
Speaker 1: you probably get more speed on the field. So that's

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Speaker 1: a guy I would look at. But you've got guys

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02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: who are really productive this year as well that are

2308
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 1: out there, you know, guys with not a time like

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02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel had seventy seven catches this year for eight

2310
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one year. Productive player who's looking for

2311
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 1: bigger money, right That's why at Arcis Robinson forty five catches,

2312
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 1: Chris Connley forty catches, Will full Or fifty three catches,

2313
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 1: Kendrick Born forty nine, Keelan Cole fifty five catches. Danny

2314
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 1: Amandola is still in league. He's thirty six. That's you know,

2315
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:27,320
Speaker 1: it's not really an option for Curtis Samuel four three one.

2316
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Corey Davis from Tennessee sixty five catches for nine eighty four.

2317
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. M John Ross four two two.

2318
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: Give me that guy, okay, because you don't need him

2319
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 1: to be a one or two or three. You just

2320
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,560
Speaker 1: need him to stretch a defense. That is that is true.

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02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 1: That is true. You just need a guy. And I'll

2322
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 1: say this about him. He had Wow, he had how

2323
02:04:57,000 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 1: many of the he had two receptions? Broce Leeve? What

2324
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 1: are you talking about? John Ross? Two receptions? Because he

2325
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: was injured. Injuries are a problem. But at best he's

2326
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna be your fourth receiver. You're not gonna pay him

2327
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money anyway. So here's a guy that

2328
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 1: you can get at an affordable price. Are you taking

2329
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 1: a risk? Yeah, yeah, you're taking a risk. You aren't

2330
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:22,000
Speaker 1: taking a risk. But if you can get him at

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02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: an affordable price kind of guy he is, Well, they'll

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Speaker 1: do that. I don't think you have to worry about that.

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Speaker 1: They will do that, you know, all right, Okay, I

2334
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:35,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Just something to think about, Chris Godwin. Well,

2335
02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay a lot more money for that guy.

2336
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:39,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know that you can sixty five catches

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02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 1: for eight hundred and forty yards. Yeah, you're paying a

2338
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 1: lot more for that guy. Yeah. Well, I mean you're

2339
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna get better. You can bring John ross

2340
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 1: in on a one year deal. Say hey, we know

2341
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 1: you're you're probably not breaking the bank this year in

2342
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: free agency. Why don't you come here be the best

2343
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 1: version of yourself. You're gonna get a lot of one

2344
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 1: on one coverage with the guys we out here. Come

2345
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 1: here for one year, prove yourself, get back into free agency.

2346
02:06:05,320 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 1: Next year's number make giant. What are you saying? What

2347
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 1: are you tell what are you paying? One year five million?

2348
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,720
Speaker 1: I bet you can get him listening that maybe even

2349
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 1: yea one year four million? Yeah all right, I'd take

2350
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 1: a flyer on that, wouldn't you? All right? If he

2351
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 1: says yes, it will take him. You heard it here first,

2352
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:27,839
Speaker 1: uh from get on the program on the tweet sheet size,

2353
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 1: add size to the old line and running backs to

2354
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: open the passing game up even more. We need to

2355
02:06:34,080 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 1: build a bully. How Zach grab you? We need to

2356
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 1: build a bully. Yeah you do. On the line, you do.

2357
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 1: You need some guys up front that are big and

2358
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 1: nasty killers. Yeah, you need some of those guys, and

2359
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,800
Speaker 1: and they've got they're up in the air. Feliciano is

2360
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 1: a free agent winners, a free agent Williams Daryl Williams

2361
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 1: is a free agent but restricted restricted and Secky and

2362
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 1: Secky's gone. You got your That's four guys out of

2363
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 1: an six or seven man rotation, indeed eight man rotation.

2364
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: So you gotta fix it. You got you gotta kick

2365
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 1: some guys in. You've got two guys, well, three guys

2366
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: that you can count on Cody Ford, Mitch Morris, Dion

2367
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:27,560
Speaker 1: Dawkins three. And I would say to Ryan Bates in

2368
02:07:27,600 --> 02:07:32,640
Speaker 1: a pinch, right, but you need three or four more

2369
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 1: guys to make that a full offensive line for an

2370
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 1: entire NFL season that can win every week, that can win.

2371
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know the bit. I haven't seen enough

2372
02:07:41,120 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: of Bates to think he can hold up physically and

2373
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 1: and be one of those powers. Been a part time.

2374
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 1: We don't know if he's here, fine, that's great, didn't

2375
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 1: expect him from Jack on the tweet sheet and need

2376
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: to find more a tight end. Knox ass promise, but

2377
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 1: adding a john Us Smith could make them unstoppable. I

2378
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 1: hope they resigned mister underrated Isaiah mckenn ze. He has

2379
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 1: a nice role and keeps proving doubters wrong. Is there

2380
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 1: a way they can restructure smoke. We'd love to see

2381
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 1: him at full health with Stefan Digs out there. Yeah,

2382
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they can, they'd have

2383
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:16,600
Speaker 1: to tack on years. He's already thirty one. Injuries were

2384
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:19,520
Speaker 1: an issue this year. Front offices. When they see that

2385
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 1: on a player on the wrong side of thirty, they

2386
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: always worry, this guy's starting to break down. Now, you know,

2387
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,840
Speaker 1: do we extend a guy that's thirty one going on

2388
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 1: thirty two. It's and that's that's a decision that they're

2389
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: going to have to make. It's a part of the

2390
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 1: equation in the NFL that is not quite so in

2391
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: other sports. NBA guys play better mid thirties sometimes, Yeah,

2392
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, um, because of the level of knowledge and

2393
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 1: the and the level of understanding they have about the

2394
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: game gets at the highest level, gets better and better,

2395
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 1: and they stay they stay in good shape. In football,

2396
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 1: it's very very rare, although it's becoming more common because

2397
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 1: of the player's safety. In my opinion, because of the

2398
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 1: player's safety rules and the way the game has changed,

2399
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:11,800
Speaker 1: guys can last longer and play better longer because of

2400
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 1: the player's safety rules, but his Father Time is undefeated, undefeated,

2401
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: and although it's going overtime with tom Brady, tom Brady

2402
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:25,760
Speaker 1: has landed a big land in some haymakers. I will

2403
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 1: admit tom Brady taken Father Time to overtime. He knocked

2404
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:34,000
Speaker 1: Father Time down once and you know here late late

2405
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 1: in the late in the game, he has knocked Father

2406
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: Time down for a minute. But he but Father Time

2407
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: is gonna win, even if it is by decision. So

2408
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 1: you're right, the guys that are in their early to

2409
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:49,320
Speaker 1: mid thirties, the clock is ticking. Yeah, especially at that

2410
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 1: kind of a position, high impact, a lot of running. Actually,

2411
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 1: it's it's not like it used to be. I think

2412
02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 1: the running thing is is real. Yes, that's real, because

2413
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 1: there's only so many miles and everybody's legs at this level,

2414
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 1: it's and you know that better than anybody. When you

2415
02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: get to a point. And I've said this before, and

2416
02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't want forgive me from repeating myself. When I

2417
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 1: was thirty five and my last year and thirty four

2418
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:15,360
Speaker 1: in my second the last year, there were weeks, not

2419
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 1: all the time, but there were weeks when the only

2420
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:23,840
Speaker 1: time I didn't hurt. I can laugh about it as

2421
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,760
Speaker 1: an old man, the only time I did not hurt

2422
02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 1: was when I was running flat out down the field.

2423
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:31,720
Speaker 1: Starting and stopping not fun. I couldn't stop and it

2424
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: was hard to start and I could. I could even

2425
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:36,560
Speaker 1: I was more comfortable doing running hard than I was

2426
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 1: taking a knee. Yeah, so it's real and these guys

2427
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 1: feel it. So you know. It's when you start evaluating

2428
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 1: these guys and where they are when in free agency,

2429
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 1: the first thing you look at is how old are they?

2430
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:53,120
Speaker 1: How many years in the league they have? Last one

2431
02:10:53,160 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet from JT. We should add a

2432
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: speed guy to blow by the defense. It will also

2433
02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 1: open up the middle of the field more and stretch

2434
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,880
Speaker 1: the defense. Can even help with our run game. Chris

2435
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: Godwin would be nice, but I doubt with the cap

2436
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 1: that that'll work. John Ross or Kenny Stills, who we

2437
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 1: had on the roster, good work. I don't know that.

2438
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that if one speed guy's gonna help you,

2439
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 1: it's not gonna help your run game. No, it's not

2440
02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:17,920
Speaker 1: gonna help your run game. It help your pass game.

2441
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 1: Though it will help your pass game, it will not

2442
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:22,240
Speaker 1: help room underneath for Beasley and Dicks. The only way

2443
02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 1: it will help your pass run game? Is it by

2444
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 1: helping your pass game, maybe then if your run game

2445
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 1: gets better. But yeah, that's a that's a you know,

2446
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 1: two steps removed from direct help in your run game.

2447
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:38,720
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah to me, even with the guys they've got,

2448
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 1: just like they are, if you can dominate both sides

2449
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 1: of lines scrimmage up front, this team is good. Is

2450
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 1: better than good enough to go as far as you

2451
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:52,760
Speaker 1: want to take, a super Bowl, all that stuff, but

2452
02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:54,760
Speaker 1: they've got to get they've got to be dominant up

2453
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 1: front on both sides of the ball. Great time for us,

2454
02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:59,000
Speaker 1: Steve and I back in a sect to close things

2455
02:11:59,080 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 1: up with what we have learned from today's show that

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Speaker 1: comes your way next year on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: Field Yates on from ESPN today and we asked him

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Speaker 1: to put his GM had on with respect to a

2462
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:35,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen extension. Here's why he said he'd extend Josh

2463
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 1: Allen's contract this offseason. I will say that I thought

2464
02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's play this year reached a hike that was

2465
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 1: greater than either Carson Wentz or Jared goff saw during

2466
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,080
Speaker 1: their time prior to their attendants. And I know that

2467
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was nearly the NFL's MVP during the two

2468
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:58,880
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen season, but Josh's trajectory has been a

2469
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent, a little bit more obvious. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, step one ross, step two improving, but still ross,

2471
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 1: step three improving. Maybe maybe a tiny bit raw, but

2472
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 1: mostly just a star And the long term ramifications of

2473
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:19,440
Speaker 1: an extension that is signed right now can really pay

2474
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 1: off for a team, So our thanks to a field

2475
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:25,800
Speaker 1: on that and Brandon being said they could fit it

2476
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 1: under even in a restrictive cap year. So we'll wait

2477
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:32,880
Speaker 1: and see if and when that comes to pass. I

2478
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 1: anticipate they're probably inclined to do that. Yeah. The more

2479
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:40,840
Speaker 1: difficult decision is on Tremaine Edmonds because that is also

2480
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: a first round pick from a twenty eighteen draft class,

2481
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:46,440
Speaker 1: and you can exercise a fifth year option there, so

2482
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions to be made this offseason. A

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Speaker 1: new Tasker's teammate tomorrow CBS Sports Chris Chapasso and Hall

2484
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 1: of Fame coach Tom Flores on the show Tomorrow, Don't

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Speaker 1: You DAREMN We'll see you tomorrow at noon here on

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