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Speaker 1: The Fred Show is on. It's stay or go? Right?

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Speaker 1: Eric is here? Hello Eric, good morning, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Hey man, welcome, We got your we got your note.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of places you can get to us Fred

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Speaker 1: Show Radio dot com, Fred Show Radio on Instagram, both

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Speaker 1: the good places you can dm us if you've got

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Speaker 1: something you wants to talk about, stay a go. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like group therapy. So what's going on with you?

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Speaker 1: And this is your wife?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: All right? Hello? Oh? Eric's gone? Eric, Eric, what do

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Speaker 1: you have? Second thoughts? Guy was on hold for like

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes and then I finally come to him that

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Speaker 1: He's like, he doesn't want talk about a name. Oh

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Speaker 1: maybe this is Eric again? Hold on a second, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what beends to answer the phone, Ben, answer

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Speaker 1: the phone, Ben, He'll sting to the score again. Ayah Man, anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll just sit here and wait. It's fine, just live radio.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have his email. I could read it,

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Speaker 1: but if this is actually him, then I, you know,

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Speaker 1: would like to speak to him. Yeah, yeah, I also

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Speaker 1: want to know what Ben is actually listening to as

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Speaker 1: opposed to the prom Oh there's Eric. His girlfriend's birthday today.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, can you don't go in that

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Speaker 1: room for a while, Eric, what happened? Are?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe you had the second thoughts about going

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Speaker 1: on the radio and talking to tens of people about

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Speaker 1: what's going on in your relationship. But it's your wife

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, right, Yes, okay, so what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Well years ago we uh, well, okay, so she wants

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Speaker 2: to freeze her eggs. But years ago, I got my

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Speaker 2: tubes tied, like we got.

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Speaker 1: Your tubes side that we're going, he got his tubes tied.

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Speaker 1: You you got those side? You gotta a second. I

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Speaker 1: guess that's something like that. So you gotta a sect me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you guys decided not to have any more kids

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Speaker 1: or any kids at all or what? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, because we were sorry, I should have

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Speaker 2: proceeded this. We have, we have kids. We're happy with

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Speaker 2: our kids. We have we have three children, we have plenty,

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Speaker 2: and we're done. We talked about this, we both agreed

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Speaker 2: on that, and now she says she wants to get

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Speaker 2: them frozen just in case she wants to have these

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Speaker 2: more babies. And I'm like, what could possibly what's suggestin

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Speaker 2: case like you don't want to be with me, you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I don't know. Hold on, hold on, let

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Speaker 1: me sort of recap this, Eric. I can tell why

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Speaker 1: you're flustered, and I can tell why I think I

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Speaker 1: would be too, because this is an interesting take. So

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Speaker 1: you guys have three kids and decided collectively, the both

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Speaker 1: of you, you can go get a sect to me.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people do this. It's like I don't

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Speaker 1: want to take bir control pills or hormones, or I

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Speaker 1: don't want to you know, do I don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to go have surgery or whatever it is. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's usually pretty simple. Guys go in snip, snip,

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Speaker 1: a little afternoon, a couple of days of soreness, boom,

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Speaker 1: no more kids. And that's what you guys decided collectively.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, your wife is coming around, going, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to freeze my eggs, which is something that

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Speaker 1: you would do if you were trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially have more kids in the future. But they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be with you because unless you go in there

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Speaker 1: and they retool it all, which I guess they can do.

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Speaker 1: They can go in there and reverse it. They can, right,

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Speaker 1: they can't do that to start producing again. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you ever stopped producing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe maybe a physician

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Speaker 1: could explain it. But that doesn't matter. It off and

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Speaker 1: if he wants it back on again, he's got pay extra.

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Speaker 1: But that's not necessarily. That isn't even the conversation. She

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Speaker 1: didn't even come to you and say, hey, would you

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Speaker 1: consider reversing your visectomy so that we can do IVF

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Speaker 1: for something in the future. No, she's just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: freeze my eggs and you're going home. On a second,

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Speaker 1: we're married and we said no more kids, So what

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Speaker 1: would the eggs be for then, like the next husband?

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Speaker 1: So is that your question? Like, is there more going

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, exactly, I mean, why why would you need

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Speaker 1: So it's almost like she's saying, just in case I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where my mind.

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Speaker 1: Because I can't imagine unless you're having a conversation about

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Speaker 1: if you're happily married, about you either you have a

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Speaker 1: specimen saved somewhares frozen, or you're going to undo the process.

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Speaker 1: And it's it ain't gonna be you fertilizing them. And

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Speaker 1: I suppose it could be a donor. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: other there's ways she could have kids within this relationship

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Speaker 1: that don't necessarily reflect on what she thinks of you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she just wants more kids and and and she

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Speaker 1: has this this yearning for it, and so you're gonna

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Speaker 1: come up with a different way.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: But but you're wondering if you should I mean to

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Speaker 1: stay or go. So you're essentially wondering if you should leave,

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Speaker 1: like like, should this relationship be over? What does it mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's that dramatic,

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Speaker 2: But I mean I'm not like, oh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I should go. It's more like, where where is

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Speaker 2: How does that work?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Are you thinking about me getting my procedure reversed as well,

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Speaker 2: and if you are, then why didn't tell me?

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Speaker 1: Huh? What's everyone's sake on this? Eight five five three

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Speaker 1: of their wives. Both of them will say, well, I

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you unless there's some serious medical

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Speaker 1: condition or some serious issue. I don't know why guys

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Speaker 1: committed relationships, who don't want to have kids, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why they don't go get a sectamy versus making

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Speaker 1: That's a surgery. I realize people do it sometimes during

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Speaker 1: because that might hurt. Yeah, that's weak. That's weak, But

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Speaker 1: I also don't if your reasoning is you don't want

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Speaker 1: person you're with much longer, that's also not a great

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Speaker 1: story either, which is why we've had the conversation over

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Speaker 1: the past few weeks, like, what if I just go

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Speaker 1: freeze my stuff and then snip it, and then that

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Speaker 1: way I got all the options. But I'm also not married, right,

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Speaker 1: can you like? How about this? How about this? Let's

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Speaker 1: flip it and reverse it. What if I'm married and

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Speaker 1: decided on no more kids, and I got to a

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Speaker 1: sect to me, I'm just gonna go undo it, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go have them re replumb it. And

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Speaker 1: the person will be like, well, why I just might

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Speaker 1: need them for? What for?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What would you need them for? We just did all this,

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Speaker 1: we decided on this. I don't I don't love it,

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Speaker 1: but I also don't necessarily think it means that she

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Speaker 1: I think it means that she just might want more kids.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's a conversation about the science and and

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Speaker 1: how to do it. And we haven't gotten that for yet. Eric. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: thank you Eric. I want you to have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Eric said, lot. I mean he's I can tell he's shocked. No,

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Speaker 1: wonderes she putting her eggs away? Here's the man, he

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Speaker 1: got it. Maybe that's why she put the n away.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you can stay sterile. That's what

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Speaker 1: she's saying to this man. We're gonna try this again.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try this for a fourth time with another man,

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Speaker 1: because she loves she loves the kids. They have my

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Speaker 1: good but she's hoping for more. Hey, Kayla, how you

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Speaker 1: doing a good morning. Sometimes sometimes these situations just make

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Speaker 1: perfect sense to me, and today was one of them.

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Speaker 1: I think I know exactly what's going on here after

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Speaker 1: talking to that man. But anyway, what do you what

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Speaker 1: would you how would you feel? Roles reversed? But let's

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Speaker 1: just say in this case, it's the same as this

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Speaker 1: guy's situation. He got to as sected me. They have kids,

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Speaker 1: they decided no more kids. He got to as sected me,

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Speaker 1: and now his wife is like, I'm gonna go freeze

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Speaker 1: to me initially, oh, you want to have kids with

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Speaker 1: somebody else because I can't do it with you? What

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Speaker 3: I think she just needs to explain herself. I mean,

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Speaker 3: obviously I don't know what this lady is thinking, but

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Speaker 3: as a female, we're only born with a certain amount

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Speaker 3: of eggs. So maybe it's just like she's scared or

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Speaker 3: So what if she does decides she wants more and

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Speaker 3: you know, it could still be with him, and I

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Speaker 3: have the option of getting them them you know, his

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Speaker 1: I just think if you don't want any speculation, then

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Speaker 1: you lead with that. You lead with, Hey, I really

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Speaker 1: want to have more kids, and I want to have

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Speaker 1: them with you, and I recognize there are some challenges,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about that. But that is according to Eric.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I believe Eric, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Eric's present. There might be something else

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Speaker 1: just gonna go freezemags. No, do you have no part

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Speaker 1: in this? I don't love it, but thank you, Cale,

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Speaker 1: I have a great day, Thank you too. I think

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Speaker 1: there's lovey too. I think there's a way to have

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Speaker 1: this conversation. But hey, Maria Higny, Maria, good morning. You

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Speaker 1: say stay as well, why and how and what? Say you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I say stay because, like you know, we

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Speaker 5: don't really know what's going on through her head. I

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Speaker 5: think that baby fever is definitely a thing. Moms canna say, hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm done having kids at this point, but then later

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Speaker 5: down the line, they're just like, you know what, maybe

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Speaker 5: we'll have one more. But the thing is that like women,

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Speaker 5: they're eggs. There gets a point where they stop producing eggs,

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Speaker 5: like it's just less and less, and then maybe it's

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Speaker 5: just down the line like he can have like you said,

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Speaker 5: he can get his tubes untied. Yeah, and then they

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Speaker 5: have the dance of having a baby again. Because she

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Speaker 5: thought ahead of the game. Is like, okay, well, you

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, thank you, Maria, Thank you I have a

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Speaker 1: good day. Hey, Loriza, Good morning, Larissa. How are you God,

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Speaker 1: how are you Hey? Doing great? Thanks for Carlin, thanks

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Speaker 4: I think she that he should stay and that this

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Speaker 1: So you think maybe Mary, like she feels the windows

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Speaker 1: even though I know it's not a cheap and easy

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Speaker 1: you're willing to endure that process, then you would have options.

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Speaker 1: But I don't you think there's a whole different way

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely, But I think I think it's maybe just

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Speaker 4: this is the that's her condition, Her eggs are going

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mary, have a good day. People do just

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Speaker 6: like when I hear someone streaking their eggs, I also think, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Hopefully, Well, it's a good thing that you guys are

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning morning.

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Speaker 7: My wife and I'm we have two kids, ourselves is

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Speaker 7: getting the best secondy was the safest route for both

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Speaker 7: I think they just need to continue to have that

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Speaker 7: the visigny is fine, but have more of a conversation

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, in your experience with your wife, it's

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just, man, I wish we could have more,

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Speaker 7: That exactly exactly continue to talking out. I mean, my

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Speaker 1: They need to have more of a conversation with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fair enough, Thank you, Mike, have a good day. Well,

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