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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and new he scrugs.

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Speaker 1: It is that time, Friday mclock in Frisco, Texas, and

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Speaker 1: we're back together, yes again, all three of us. Barry Church, yes,

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Speaker 1: so he's back into building. Danny McCray in the house.

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Speaker 1: These guys former players for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm Newi scrugs,

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Speaker 1: a long time sports anchor here in the Dallas for

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Speaker 1: UR Theory. So we are going to entertain you for

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Speaker 1: an hour with a whole lot of different topics you've

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Speaker 1: got to get to, from Eli Manning to Byron Jones,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, Brian possibly coming back into building. But let

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Speaker 1: us start with something that I found very interesting on

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Speaker 1: social media, especially Twitter, is that's going on they entertainment

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Speaker 1: between the NFC champion San Francisco forty nine, the Hot

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Speaker 1: Boys and the Dallas Cowboys and the Hot Boy one z.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference, yes, zing the Boys and the Hot Boys.

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Speaker 1: So Tank is basically the CEO of the Hot Boys, right,

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Speaker 1: and he deserves to be. And Tank is selling Hot

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Speaker 1: Boys T shirts, Hot Boys sweatshirts, Hot Boys, Beanie CD

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Speaker 1: right eating opened up a little shop. He is very

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Speaker 1: protective of the name. Well, the San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers defense calls themselves the Hot Boys, and they put

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Speaker 1: two z's on the end. So Tank is out there

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Speaker 1: on Twitter this week claiming that they're basically imposters and

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Speaker 1: that he's trademarked the name and the dig, you know,

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Speaker 1: basically saying there will be a cease and desist. And

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Speaker 1: of course the forty nine are faithful jumped on him.

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Speaker 1: Aren't in the playoffs. They're in the Super Bowl, you guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean they Tank and Company getting lit up now

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Speaker 1: here was poor old Jalen Smith just trying to fly

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl and trying to He's on the

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Speaker 1: plane with a Hot Boys being he Tank tweets it

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Speaker 1: out and then Jalen gets dragged in Twitter comments manages

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Speaker 1: straight col in. The forty nine are fans just trolling

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Speaker 1: and with each incident it just gave just put more fuel.

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Speaker 1: It takes take is tweeting back and it's just and

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Speaker 1: I had a long time NFL writer, Uh, send me

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Speaker 1: a DM. It just said, what's going on here? But

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Speaker 1: what what is going on? And just his premise was,

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Speaker 1: this is the problem of the cowboys worrying about the

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Speaker 1: wrong thing. Where is the substance? You're worried about a

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Speaker 1: style and a brand. This is this is what I'm getting.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said it wasn't. No, I'm just telling you some

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Speaker 1: veteran NFL scribe said and and and that a conversation

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Speaker 1: needed to be had with the head coach of Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what your locker room is is like where

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Speaker 1: you've got guys worried about brands in merch and not

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Speaker 1: enough on the winning the style versus the substance. So

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Speaker 1: that is where we start off. Now, I throw it

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Speaker 1: to the floor. Let me tell you something, Brook, This

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Speaker 1: is the same tank has been doing this with everything.

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Speaker 1: The hot Boys didn't start this year, the same stats

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Speaker 1: in play that got him the Honey million. It was

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Speaker 1: the same hot boys, all right. So I don't have

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with his performance that he's tweeting this

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Speaker 1: out and taking this that series. Also, it's the offseason.

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Speaker 1: You're right, we're not in the playoffs. What should he

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Speaker 1: be doing marketing himself and making some money off the field.

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Speaker 1: He also tweeted out we are more than just players.

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Speaker 1: He's starting a business, trying to start a legacy, and

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Speaker 1: this is his thing. All right now. I will say

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Speaker 1: I'm in a tough position because Cohen Alexander is a

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Speaker 1: LSU guy and he's also trying to trade mark the

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Speaker 1: two z's. He's trying to trade mark. But I'm in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: all right, so I know the Hot Boys to be

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Speaker 1: the guys that walk around in this locker room. Playoffs

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Speaker 1: are not. This is that was their things. So he

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Speaker 1: gotta right to feel the way you do. And if

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Speaker 1: he trademarked it and he making bread off of it, yeah,

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Speaker 1: get off of it. Outside of football. This is business pursuing, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he got all rights to trademark his brand.

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Speaker 1: He's the Hot Boy Ambassador, he's the CEO all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand the fort of course they know

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys are called the Hot Boys. Why go

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Speaker 1: ahead and sit there and say, let me let me

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Speaker 1: take that name. You can't be more creative, Like, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: this is Z and the name. And it gets worse

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Speaker 1: because we know that the Cowboys are this big brand

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Speaker 1: have a lot of sponsors and all this stuff, and

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Speaker 1: other companies have sent the Cowboys gifts with hot Boys

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Speaker 1: on there, right, So it's not like it's just their

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Speaker 1: thing where they're like, nah, we even train. Yes, there

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Speaker 1: are big brands in here who are buying into this

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Speaker 1: and it's already been made. They're doing this now. It

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Speaker 1: is good. This is good. I'm glad when we handcu

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Speaker 1: there's video what is the original hot Boy juvenile? So

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Speaker 1: Julie the Great Julie they are the new hot Boys

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Speaker 1: and gave the blessing and permission to Quan Alexander. That

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Speaker 1: changes everything. That changes everything. Man. If Julie the Great,

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Speaker 1: the original president hot Boy says, you know what, y'all

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Speaker 1: got my blessings and they ain't cross the country. They

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Speaker 1: ain't like you know they they right next to that

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Speaker 1: changes that, Listen. I said, like I said, I just

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Speaker 1: all right, What school did Quan Alexander go to? Where

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Speaker 1: is Julie where this is? So? Of course, like that's

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Speaker 1: like if if Joe Burrow or somebody else they went

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Speaker 1: to LSU saying something about something that Boosey says in

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Speaker 1: the song. Of course he's gonna co sign it Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: But that still don't take away the fact that they

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Speaker 1: wasn't a big thing until the markus Lawance called him

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Speaker 1: the hot boys. He started this, ain't read the beef

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Speaker 1: And of course, of course Julie gonna hop on look

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Speaker 1: at him. Nobody was talking about Julie. But the last

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Speaker 1: time you will, the last time you told him, I

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Speaker 1: got listen, I got respect for the songs. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when it up bad. Listen, when

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Speaker 1: not respect, I'm just saying we didn't know nothing. Nobody

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Speaker 1: was thinking about mattering it right now. He just gat

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Speaker 1: he just gave out the name. Huh, he just he

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Speaker 1: just the name was already gone gave He said that

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Speaker 1: you all can use here boys, you all the new

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Speaker 1: by two zis because because because the court is saying

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Speaker 1: that d lauding them is the Onesia and the public

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Speaker 1: of the court. Did the court say that yet it's

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Speaker 1: trademark that saying that you had said no season de

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Speaker 1: sensive and ain't trademark morning and the course they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get it. Let me tell you so public course the

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Speaker 1: Hot Boys than guy. So this is the equivalent when

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Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker and then George Lucas Lucas film came in

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Speaker 1: and then he had to go to Uncle Luke. That's right,

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Speaker 1: that's what happened to him. So he was using Luke

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Speaker 1: Skywalker and take some I can almost tell you exactly

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Speaker 1: what d Law is thinking. Who cares what you now

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Speaker 1: talking about? It? We are, but we've been saying this.

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Speaker 1: He went, do not want talking none of that when

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Speaker 1: they was calling themself dot but maybe because he's not

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Speaker 1: a fan of the cowboys. But just so out of Spike,

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Speaker 1: you get you're gonna give somebody the right to use

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Speaker 1: hot But now the courts did that. The courts gave

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Speaker 1: him the right. By Juvie, I'm gonna say this fact

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Speaker 1: that the forty nine is tried to take the Hot

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Speaker 1: Boys name from the from the Cowboys when they could

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Speaker 1: have had their own. There's so many other You gotta

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Speaker 1: be more creative than that, man. That's the one thing

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it for. But Juvie talking about Dad,

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Speaker 1: they deserved to get it. Judie says it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Julie the Great and everybody and everybody boys, c C.

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Speaker 1: He said, that's the way here. That's where he believed that. Fine,

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Speaker 1: I'm not you know what I'm saying that that's but

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Speaker 1: if he believed that everybody should believe, you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: they do, So that's fine. I mean he believes in it.

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Speaker 1: But one Z the one. I'm ones, but everybody and listen,

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Speaker 1: everybody making money out there, man, go if you gotta

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Speaker 1: start the trademark and you want separate streams and in

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Speaker 1: call dude, you got a new d law. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: what you're doing trying to get everybody out there to

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Speaker 1: find other streams of revenue and show them that you

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Speaker 1: have more than athlete. Shout out to you. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Quan has got a whole bunch of new merchancs with

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Speaker 1: Hot Boys University. So so let's see where the speaking

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Speaker 1: of hot boys. Didn't Taco start Hot Boys? I think

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Speaker 1: he did. I think Taco started, and then then Tank

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Speaker 1: so so now Quan taking it from a d law,

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Speaker 1: it's how all these things, you know what happens. Easy

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Speaker 1: created NWA, but it was Ice Cub just putting all

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Speaker 1: the music and writing all the lyrics. Rain had the beats,

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Speaker 1: and so you know this, it is what it is

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Speaker 1: that the Hot Boys and Kwan Alexander will be playing

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Speaker 1: in the super Bowl, so they will have an ultimate stage,

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Speaker 1: especially if they win this game. Go ahead and get

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Speaker 1: going to be interesting on how much and how they're

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Speaker 1: wear winners. People want to wear Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: how crazy this is though, because everybody speaks about like

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Speaker 1: gonna be buying all the Hot Boys gears, Danny. This

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Speaker 1: has been a criticism of the Cowboys, the style versus

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Speaker 1: a substance, that there's been so much put into style,

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Speaker 1: rookie year when they were telling the two one four

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Speaker 1: could not that mean, the presses were going, they had

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Speaker 1: and me would just move. You take that winning combined

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Speaker 1: with the brand, boom is good, and that to me,

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Speaker 1: that's where if I was a Cowboys player, man, I'd

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Speaker 1: be working like crazy because could you imagine what type

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Speaker 1: When you think about it, the how Boys, it's big.

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Speaker 1: They go to the playoffs last year, I mean they

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Speaker 1: lose in the Rams. But my whole thing is when

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Speaker 1: and they focus on you know, money and all, how

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Speaker 1: does making two one four effect the way that Dak

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Speaker 1: and Zeke play the game the way that the game

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Speaker 1: doesn't right to me. And my mind is like the dudes,

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Speaker 1: they ain't think about something them t searchs when they

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Speaker 1: out there on the field. Well, that's not the reason

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Speaker 1: he missed the past. That's not the reason Zeke. People

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Speaker 1: say that. People say that the Cowboys focus too much

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Speaker 1: They talk about the building and all this other stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, what that they still outside on

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Speaker 1: have that on your record. So did you say just

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Speaker 1: because you got that, you should be somewhere on the ballot.

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Speaker 1: I think he should be Nick Vos, not Nick Voles. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Nick Voles. I'm saying. I'm saying so

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, No, I'm not talking that saying that Eli

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be whatever I'm saying. When you start talking about

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Speaker 1: and you start listening to accolades, you have you have

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Speaker 1: to think about the entirety of the career versus just

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Speaker 1: that moment, like like knew he said, because you can

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Speaker 1: go in and win the Super Bowl and win MVP

436
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Speaker 1: and get a statue and all that stuff, but you're

437
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Speaker 1: like Nick Foles not getting into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: So the entirety of what the the even records one

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Speaker 1: seventy one, one seventy one, the entirety of his career,

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Speaker 1: one seventeen, one seventeen, The entirety of that is what

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Speaker 1: you got, which which one highways more two super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: two super Bowl MVPs or the one seventeen the entirety

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Speaker 1: of your career. There's a lot of missed playoff years there.

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Speaker 1: And even when they won the first Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: it was a wild card team and granted Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: and that team went on a fantastic run. They beat

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Speaker 1: Tampa and that was a you know, one of those

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Speaker 1: Grutens teams towards the end. So then they go beat

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Speaker 1: to Tampa. Then they come and face the Cowboys and

450
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Speaker 1: number one seed at the stadium. They win that. Then

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Speaker 1: they go to the NFC Championship game at lambeau Field.

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Speaker 1: They get it done in over time. Then you face

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Speaker 1: an undefeated New England Patriots team that's about to set

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Speaker 1: a you know, a record for for wins ever and

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Speaker 1: actually they did in regular season wins. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the team was eighteen and old. When

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Speaker 1: then they make up eighteen and one. It was a

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Speaker 1: great run. It was a phenomenal run. But in sixteen

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Speaker 1: years there were not You had two great runs, but

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of that entirety of the career,

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Speaker 1: and he was Okay, when you talk about Aaron Rodgers

462
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Speaker 1: being one of the greats, he's not. That mean. Patrick

463
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Speaker 1: Mahomes already has more. You know, he's won an MVP.

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Speaker 1: All right, let mege it. So if Aaron Rodgers retires

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Speaker 1: next year, do you put him in the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is done, He's done. He's of fames.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yes, the entirety of what he's able to do,

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Speaker 1: it's not very many bad bad things are bad seasons

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Speaker 1: or miss playoff like that. It's not the same as

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Speaker 1: Eli Elist sixteen years, Like you said, two super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: A lot a lot of question first, even even when

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Speaker 1: what about Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs? He smoked those ers.

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Speaker 1: This is a good stat because I was talking to

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Speaker 1: somebody the other day and they were talking about the Packers,

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Speaker 1: and he said, look, what are the big issues in

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Speaker 1: Aaron's career? Has been? How bad the defenses have been?

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Speaker 1: I believe he has say so we no, no, no, listen,

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Speaker 1: listen to how bad the deefen has been in these losses.

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Speaker 1: I believe he has either eight or ten playoff losses.

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Speaker 1: In those losses, the Packer defenses have given up thirty

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Speaker 1: six points, average thirty six points. And then the wins

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Speaker 1: they've averaged seventeen. And then this person was telling me

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Speaker 1: the defensive Coordinay was saying, look, at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: what Green Bay needed to do is address more defense,

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Speaker 1: more of their defensive needs, and just how much does

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Speaker 1: the defense help you out? Now, you think about those

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Speaker 1: Giants teams against the Patriots. You know the Pages were

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Speaker 1: scoring a whole bunch of points on those teams. You

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Speaker 1: know they have not was vicious straight hand J P G.

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Speaker 1: You know that that you and he basically you also

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Speaker 1: do need help, by the way, and he says, as

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Speaker 1: great as Aaron Rodgers has been, but you basically in

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Speaker 1: his points, you're basically saying, Aaron, we need you to

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Speaker 1: go win the game. That that was six thing about

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Speaker 1: your mind. Most did win with that great defense in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. So we're gonna say that's all

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers winning that defense. No, no, no, no. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm still talking about the entirety of the career. Right.

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Speaker 1: When you think of Aaron Rodgers coming into your building,

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Speaker 1: it's a different thought than when you think of Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning coming into your building. When we when we watch

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Speaker 1: film and there and Eli was coming, you say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, it's time to get picks. You did say that, boy,

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Speaker 1: a rod you say, man, I'm just saying. But you

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, you better be on your piece of

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Speaker 1: qus because Aaron Rodgers make me like the food. That's true.

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, there's a lot of times we sit

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Speaker 1: there and watch the TV. He say, it's Eli throwing

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Speaker 1: with his eyes closed. He thought the several round with

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Speaker 1: some with some accuracy. But other than that, man, the dude,

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Speaker 1: the dude was a little shaky. If you comparing those

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Speaker 1: It is different because everybody can make different type of throws.

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Speaker 1: I get what you and just just just rolling out

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Speaker 1: just some of the career stats. We're looking at an

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, you know, super Bowl champions, super Bowl MVP,

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Speaker 1: two times, he won the NFL MVP. That's that's that's

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Speaker 1: a big time eight time Pro Bowl or two time

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Speaker 1: Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year UH set the

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Speaker 1: point four UM in the season he said it UH one,

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Speaker 1: twenty two point five and twenty eleven. The touchdown interception

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Speaker 1: ratio is fantastic. Four hundred and two consecutive passes without say,

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Speaker 1: when you talked about Aaron Rodgers, you talked about his

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Speaker 1: greatness and then you measure him. Okay, who are the

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Speaker 1: people you were playing up against? You know people are

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Speaker 1: I feel like he had two great runs and had

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Speaker 1: at Dallas Fort Worth, Barry Churches the former Dallas Cowboys player,

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Speaker 1: We do it every Friday from the Star. Barry was

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Speaker 1: not with us last week when we spoke about Drew

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Speaker 1: Piersons of Barry's asking a couple of questions in the break,

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Speaker 1: So let me just kind of go ahead and give

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Speaker 1: you that that whole Drew Pierson running. I was at

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Speaker 1: knowledge of this because Drew and I spoke many times

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Speaker 1: about it. So Drew Pierson is now the only member

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Speaker 1: of the All Decade nineteen seventies first team who is

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Speaker 1: not in. There were two first team members not in

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Speaker 1: before they came out with the centennial class. It was

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Speaker 1: Cliff Harris safety with the Cowboys who played five five

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, two wins, and Drew. I mean they even

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Speaker 1: put the punt a gray guy in. So with these

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Speaker 1: team receiver Harold Carmichael got Drew spot before him. So

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Speaker 1: when we were watching it and Harold Carmichael was a

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Speaker 1: third name out there, I immediately said, they're gonna put

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Speaker 1: two because it was ten. It was ten players that

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Speaker 1: we're going to get in. I said, and beforehand, I

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Speaker 1: just now I wrote it, and I even told Drew.

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Speaker 1: I said, Drew, it'll be you and Max Speedy. They'll

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Speaker 1: get in. That's what I'm thinking, because Max Speedy was

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Speaker 1: a guy to play for the Cleveland Browns, great player,

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Speaker 1: had been overlooked all decade, got needed to be in.

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Speaker 1: So I figured it would be the two first team guys.

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Speaker 1: Harold gets in, I'm thinking, men, it's gonna be three.

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Speaker 1: Then I get tipped off Cliff Harris was gonna get in.

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Speaker 1: And this was before the announcement of the clip. I

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Speaker 1: go back to someone who told me they're not going

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Speaker 1: to put three cowboys in. It'll put in two of

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Speaker 1: this class they're not gonna put because it was a

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Speaker 1: total of fifteen. So they'll put in two, they will

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Speaker 1: not put in three. Well, Jimmy Johnson had got in,

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Speaker 1: so now I knew. Cliff got in that and Harold in.

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Speaker 1: Now I know we're in trouble. And then the last

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Speaker 1: person who got in was Max Speedy. So now Drew

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Speaker 1: Pearson since the nineteen thirties, and you go into first

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Speaker 1: team All decade White receivers, there are eighteen of them.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Drew

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Speaker 1: is the only one who's not in. Don't look at

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Speaker 1: he didn't have any numbers. And I'm sitting here trying

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Speaker 1: to educate people on Twitter. There's a different football game.

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Speaker 1: What you're watching today is not the kind of football

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Speaker 1: that was played in the nineteen seventies. You, as a

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Speaker 1: defensive backe, sit up here, run the whole route of

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Speaker 1: guy runs down the field. You could push him, mug him,

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Speaker 1: hit him, do whatever. You can't do that today in

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks you was getting hit high. I mean there was

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Speaker 1: they were roughing the guys. I mean there's a different

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Speaker 1: football game. Here is the issue for Drew Pearson. The

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Speaker 1: entire time after you retire nineteen eighty three, and once

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Speaker 1: he was eligible as a modern day era candidate, he

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Speaker 1: was never put on the ballot to be discussed in

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Speaker 1: the room. Okay, Steve Atwater's name is going to be

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Speaker 1: discussed in the room next week, next Saturday. Drew never

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: got in the room. This was the first time Drew

640
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: got in a room over thirty years. First team got

641
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: the writers failed Drew Pearson. So now Drew has moved

642
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: into the seniors category. So the hope next year to

643
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: try to get him in the Class of twenty twenty

644
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: is come August when they start talking again about senior candidates,

645
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: is that Drew can get on that list. Now here

646
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: comes the tough part. They'll only put in two senior

647
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: candidates and the class of twenty twenty one. But his

648
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: case is going to be stronger. Two ways. This is

649
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: a better opportunity for Drew. This class of twenty twenty

650
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: will be voted on Senior Writers. There will be nobody

651
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: else like a Bill Belichick and Bill Polian, people who

652
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: might think a little bit differently. These writers are going

653
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: to have to face the fact that, according to the

654
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: very criteria they said, they have denied a man who

655
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: has earned Okay, and I say this all day long,

656
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: and I'll fight anybody, Drew Pearson has earned a Hall

657
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: of Fame jacket based on the criteria that the writers

658
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: have used to induct people in. So, of course, is

659
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: it is there a difference when they say like Senior

660
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: Hall of Family? Is there an asterisk beside Hall of Famer?

661
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: But and so what the Senior Committee is about is

662
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: over time, guys, guys get passed over. Some guys will

663
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: fall through the cracks. And that's what the Senior Committee

664
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: was made up to do, to say, hey, look, you

665
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: know what, we've got some guys who we missed on

666
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: that we as the Hall made a mistake and we

667
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: need to correct the error. And now that they have

668
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: the Contributors category, one reason that the Contributors categories are saying,

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00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's some people who really haven't played a

670
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: major part in the National Football League. But according to

671
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: how we vote right now, five modern day people, two seniors,

672
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: they probably won't get in. It's very hard to get

673
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: in it. So that's how someone like Jerry Jones ended

674
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: up making it because they wanted to say they're people

675
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: out here who've made a major contribution to pro football

676
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: and how we see it that we can't tell the

677
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: game without him. But it's really hard because you want

678
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: to try to reward the players. One are the next

679
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: categories that they're gonna come up with it is they're

680
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out a way to put some

681
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: assistant coaches into the profitable hall. Yeah, because there are

682
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: some guys who are great assistants weren't necessarily the guy's

683
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: head coaches, but made a difference over a long period

684
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: of time that you have to say, you know you

685
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: made a difference. Now that we're seeing general managers get in,

686
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: George Young, who helped build those Giants teams, that guy

687
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: is now we have to make sure we recognize these

688
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: people because the process, honestly, you don't let a lot

689
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: of people in. That's one great thing what makes it special.

690
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: But they know they've excluded people, so back to your

691
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: point about the seniors. The hope is Drew's on the

692
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: ballot in August, and as they go through the process

693
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: and whittle it down, that Drew is one of the

694
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: finals because his case is strong. And you look at

695
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: the people you've passed over. So first team all nineteen seventies,

696
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: two wide receives, Lynswan, Drew Pierson, lyns wan In by

697
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: the way, took lynz one way too long to get so,

698
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Paul Warfield, second team, Harold Carmichael second team. They're in

699
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: John Stalworth neither first nor second team. They voted him.

700
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: You have no more excuses. This is a guy you

701
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: have to put in. He's got the memorable moments, he's

702
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl ring. He checked off all the

703
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: boxes that they say you should have to get into

704
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So at this point

705
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: in time, I've said to Drew Purson, I said it's

706
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: time to start shaming them. When I showed the video

707
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: of Drew at his house walking away in tears, I

708
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: wanted people to see that this is what you have done.

709
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: This is what you've done to a man who has

710
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: earned the jacket. It's one thing if you don't win

711
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: and you don't earn it. But this guy earned it.

712
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: He checked all the bout so it's not a matter

713
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: of if it's just win. He's sixty nine years old.

714
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: What I would say to anybody on the Committee of

715
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: the Seniors Committee is, look, let's not ever have another

716
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: Kin Stabler situation. For years, Jenny Stabler had to me

717
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: a resume that said, look, you were one of the

718
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks of the seventies. No, he wasn't first or

719
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: second team all decade because that went to Terry Bradshaw

720
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: and Rodestava. But when you talk about the great teams

721
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: of the seventies, it was the Vikings, it was the Cowboys,

722
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: it was the Steelers, it was the Dolphins, and it

723
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: was the Raiders. No team won more games than the

724
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: Raiders of the seventies. He got a Super Bowl win.

725
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: I mean, try to win a Super Bowl when you

726
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: had the Miami Dolphins, who would perfect her want two

727
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: back to back Super Bowls? The Steelers who won four

728
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl. If you just got into the Super

729
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Bowl back then, it was hard. It was like trying

730
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: to get in while Michael Jordan trying trying to get

731
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 1: in the Finance and the east of Michael Jordan was playing.

732
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: They were that good or trying to get to a

733
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl out of the AFC while the Patriots to go.

734
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: That's how tough the competition was in the seventies. Man,

735
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: it was hard. And Kenny Stabler, in my opinion, was

736
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. And when you talked about

737
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks that you had to talk about the Snake.

738
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean they were throwing the ball. I was out there.

739
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: We're going deep we I mean, you know one you

740
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: just want dinking and Duncan you put Bob Greasey in?

741
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Bob Greasy's I think Bob

742
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: Greasy won a Super Bowl. I think he threw maybe

743
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: eight or eleven passes. I mean, and I beating up Bob.

744
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: He did what they asked him to do. But that

745
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: year they went undefeated. Earl Morrell won more games because

746
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: Greasy was hurt, and then the second Super Bowl. You

747
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: Greasy was never the MVP of any of them, right,

748
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: one of the defensive guys was MVP second when Zanka

749
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: was the MVP. The first one that was a running

750
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: football team. They didn't throw the ball, but he was

751
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: in because he helped them win. So to me, you

752
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: can't sit around here and say stated it wasn't worthy

753
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: because he was right there and he wanted it so

754
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: bad he died. Cliff Branch was also on the ballot.

755
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: Cliff did not get in. I spoke to Cliff at

756
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: the Texas Black Sports Hall of Fame about three four

757
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: years ago. I said, man, you deserve to be in.

758
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: He was on three Super Bowl teams. He was on

759
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl eleven, super Bowl fifteen, and eighteen. That's a

760
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: long time, man, because excuse about for the nineteen seventy

761
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: six to nineteen eighty three, and the guy played with

762
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks. I mean, the guy was definitely one

763
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: of the play You talk about three super Bowl he's

764
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: on all three Raiders super Bowl teams. Deserved his spot,

765
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: but didn't get in, and he died, And I just think,

766
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: what a shame. We can't keep trying to all Right,

767
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: Barry's dead. Now, let's let us honor man boy. We're sorry,

768
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: Barry's family, We're sorry we didn't put it in when

769
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: he was here and he was alive. It took him

770
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: dying for us. Long lived Barry Church. What's worse is

771
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: watching one of Jim Brown's teammates. It was a guard

772
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: they put in and I was there and the man

773
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: couldn't speak Fran Tarkington. I was a Fran Tarry was

774
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: somebody else's think it was a son who did it.

775
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: And then it was another one, mctinle haff A center,

776
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: who was Frank Tarkington center with the with the Vikings

777
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: on four Super Bowl teams. He wasn't able to speak articulately.

778
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: He was old and was in a wheelchair. It was

779
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: just like that. Well, when you know Berry, when you've

780
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: seen the Vikings four super Bowl teams, this guy was

781
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: a starting center. Fran Tarkington ends up making the Pro

782
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. When Fran retired, you know, nobody

783
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: had throw him from more yards and he told him

784
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: guy was a great prolific quarterback. You know this guy.

785
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta have some people there helping you

786
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: along the way. And then they decided to wait until

787
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: the dude can't stand up there and give his own speech.

788
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

789
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: Why are we waiting till to wait? We gotta wait

790
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: till you are jacked up to say, hey man, my bad,

791
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: my bad. So that's my that's my two cents. Hopefully

792
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: it drew get in that next year. I'm starting to

793
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: shame people in if it worked, if it might as well.

794
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: You don't think should have been a first ballot No, no,

795
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: I do not. No, you don't. Things look okay, you

796
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: need we talk. That's one thing, Barry, that that clouds

797
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. But we talk about numbers. Um.

798
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: I also think that winning is a part of this.

799
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, how many teams couldn't wait

800
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: to get rid of the guy so and he was

801
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: also the issue for me. You could have made the

802
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: argument that Michael Irvin, Chris Carter, Andre Reid, Tim Brown,

803
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: you could have said these guys were all first teams

804
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: as well. They don't like to wait. Lynn Swan is

805
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: a part of four Super Bowl teams. Was it was

806
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl MVP as a player, that dude had

807
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: to wait almost ten years to get it. I mean

808
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: he was he was so mad at something that, hey, brother,

809
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: guess what, You're not the first great player who didn't

810
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: get it. When I said, when you tell me first

811
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: ballot guy, it's a Jerry Rice, it's an Immi Smith,

812
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: it's a dude, where you just to was never first

813
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: team all decade? I think he shouldn't have been. All look, okay,

814
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: look at these like the man. If we're talking about

815
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame to get in, there were

816
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: talking about just football, you know the first Okay, do

817
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: you know who the first teamers were for the Let

818
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: me tell tell me. Okay it was it was Randy Moss. Okay,

819
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: it was Marvin Harrison. Okay, better than both of those

820
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: guys on the field. And when you when you want

821
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: to go, you want to go numbers, Randy mart you

822
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: want to go number, go ahead. Remember who Marvin played with,

823
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Peyton He had numbers, he had Yeah, he had you

824
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: sitting there telling me those two are better than Terrell Owens. Yes,

825
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm going to just talking about strict Randy Moss. It's

826
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: better than t O football. And Randy was first back.

827
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: So yes, yes, you are. You are. Anybody ever said

828
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: you got to you got most. So we're just saying

829
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: we talked about cash, friends or numbers the whole Randy's numbers.

830
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Who got better numbers? Please please do listen. Randy was

831
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: better than t O your Margaret Harrison thing. You know,

832
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: if we're talking about numbers and Tio's numbers are better

833
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: than Randy Mars. How is Randy Marks better than t o?

834
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: All right, just so you know, here was your you

835
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: I go back, there was two thousand. For the two thousands,

836
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: you're all decade team first team wide receiver. It's Moss

837
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: and Harrison your second team, Tory Holt and Tarall owns Now.

838
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: Keep in mind all three year end. Holt is on

839
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: the Ballad edition. So I didn't if Tory's not in,

840
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: he will get in. I mean because just start looking

841
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: at the guys on the list and how they do

842
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: things that they'll they'll find their way in. I don't

843
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: think that there's ever a debate about Randy from the

844
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: time this guy came in here as a rookie set

845
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: rookie records to setting the all time mark of most

846
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a season. And you think about this with

847
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Tom Brady's greatest year where he threw fifteen

848
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, it was with Randy Moss, Dante Culpepper, Dante

849
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: Culpepper gums in as a as as as a Brook

850
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: And you see the kind of numbers. Randall Cuttingham was

851
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: a backup player and all of a sudden goes to

852
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Minnesota and revives his career, throwing it to Randy Mos.

853
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Randy Moss is a weapon that we had,

854
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: one of those rare weapons that you just don't see

855
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: very Also, TiO wasn't that weapon? Not like to the

856
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: numbers exact y'all saying they're like Tio's numbers aren't what

857
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: they were. I'm telling you watching the game that I

858
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: think Randy Moss conversation. Are we talking about the length

859
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: of the career and once you've done in your career

860
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: or just a couple runs and play here? No, we're

861
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: talking about his the entire career, Randy Moss's career. Whose

862
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: numbers were better? Okay, I'm just going down here. Here

863
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: you go, you back on the numbers and nick foles.

864
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: We talk about your career, yeah, Mark, Yeah, not just

865
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: the run. So we're talking about the whole numbers right

866
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: as in what he's done. And we've watched the game.

867
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: You up fairly think when you watching a TiO, did

868
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: you think that he played better than Randy Moss? I

869
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: think Randy the numbers back me. Then, how how's that run?

870
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know because we also talked about here, you're

871
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: into your numbers, and this is a very very even split.

872
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: So numbers wise, when it comes to receptions, Marvin had

873
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: more one thousand, one hundred and two, Tarrell had one

874
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: thousand and seventy eight. They're basically the same. When it

875
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: comes to receiving yards Marvin fourteen thousand, five h eighty

876
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: tifteen thousand, nine hundred and thirty four. When it comes

877
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: to receiving touchdowns, terib with a bigger mark, one fifty

878
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: three to one twenty eight. Where's Moss in this one? Moss? Okay,

879
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: put to me, I'm putting Moss overhead. No, no, no,

880
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: he's already. So we are going the numbers. Oh, y'all,

881
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: y'all going after the actual fact, going out watching the game.

882
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: We think we're talking about facts though. Go ahead, go ahead,

883
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: go ahead, all right? So Jo got him in yards

884
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: and touchdown. Yeah. So so here's Marvin, just some some

885
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: statistics since you're into the career. Highlights of stats here

886
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: Marvin eight time Pro bowler, three time first team All Pro,

887
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: five times second team All Pro, two time NFL receiving

888
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: yards leader, ninety nine in two thousand and two NFL

889
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns co leader in two thousand and five, two

890
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: time NFL receptions leader in two years in a row,

891
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: all decadeeen two thousand, one hundredth Anniversary NFL uh Anniversary team. There.

892
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: Let me go back here over to Tarrell, six time

893
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, five team first time for five time first

894
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: team All Pro, three time NFL receiving touchdowns a leader,

895
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: NFL decade, second team. They're very they're very comparable. But

896
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Marvin got the nod. Give me Marvin has go back

897
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: to what you said when you talked about first ballot.

898
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: Marvin wasn't first ballot. Terrell wasn't first. It's hard, okay,

899
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about writing, but if I if I

900
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: am writing down like you're in, Moss was in because

901
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: of his numbers or just just the numbers, the dominant weapon.

902
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: There was no better wide receiver during Man had better numbers.

903
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: How are we going to sit there and say he

904
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: was not as dominant as Moss. I just don't understand that.

905
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: I say he's a better player than than Tero. All right,

906
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess I just don't understand if the

907
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: numbers back it up, how can we sit there and

908
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: say he's not better. All right, here's your Moss. Here's

909
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: your Moss. Okay, here's your the three main categories reception,

910
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: yards and TDS, receptions, he had less than both men. Okay,

911
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: nine eighty two, So Marvin Harrison was better than uh

912
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Randy Moss. We ain't done yards okay, because his numbers,

913
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: the numbers the worst yardage, uh fifteen thousand, two hundred

914
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: ninety two, so more than Harrison, less than Moss when

915
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: it comes to yeah, less when it comes to receiving touchdowns,

916
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: he has more than he had, more than both. He

917
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: had more than both to less at one fifty six

918
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: yeah td so yeah, yeah, he got more tds, but

919
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: less receiving yards and less reception. Let's let's receiving yards

920
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: behind me a couple hundred? Was it fifteen thousand? I'm

921
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: in the t o um TiO had fifteen thousand, nine

922
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand, what nine hundred and ninety two

923
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: tds to had three less? T I'm sorry they and

924
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: the numbers for show that the man got more touchdowns.

925
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: He got two hundred less your arts maybe less and

926
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: less catchers, so he got less catchers, more touchdowns and

927
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: two hundred less yards. Come on, Mary less, he over

928
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: me talking like to is like the definitely better than

929
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: MoMA was better. You can't you over like you can't

930
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: believe that we would say better than he was better?

931
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: And they gottowns. Stay back, Wait what the stats you are?

932
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: You are you really about the band got less cancers?

933
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: So are we doing this on opinions or facts? That

934
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: all I want to know? He wasn't less yards? Three

935
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: touchdown so he scored more. Here's what we know. Moss

936
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: was first ballot terribly. So you buy yourself in this thought.

937
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: People who vote on this, this is what they thought.

938
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: People who vote has also made Pierson Waite and all

939
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: these decades. But remember there right now. But he's still

940
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: the same thing. Though Marva Harrison got more cats than

941
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, but he said Moss is better than Harrison.

942
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: All right, we we just talk about nothing that we've

943
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: taken this argument too far, too far. Okay, we have

944
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: seal being here. Let's take a break. We'll get back boy.

945
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976
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977
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Speaker 1: And even though it feels weird to talk to we,

979
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981
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Speaker 1: Back to the player's lound, spend the whole brace bit,

982
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the whole break off your popcorn rantou get your waivers

983
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: papers ready, because the team has decided they're done with

984
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: all your antiques. Terror set the bills Bengals, I mean, Carson. Oh,

985
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna like Randy Moss. Ain't do that either. We're

986
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna like Randy Balls. They do that, I might know it.

987
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: And they did that to Football Life straight cash. Only

988
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: one quarterback would agreed to be interviewed to talk about it.

989
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: We cats out there. He talked about Randy Quit all right,

990
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Barry Church, Danny McRae, I knew, he scrugs. By the way. Tonight,

991
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: I will be at the four War Stock show in Rodeo.

992
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Speaker 1: out then check you wenna check, Oh you gotta yeah.

996
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Speaker 1: you're not in Dallas. Four theory, get the app NBC

998
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Speaker 1: DFW app can watch me. Don't be out to misrepresented,

999
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Speaker 1: all right, don't do that. Trust you're gonna hear. Oh,

1000
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Speaker 1: I know. That's why I told hi, my nieces boot

1001
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: because I don't have any movies. I've never more a

1002
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Speaker 1: pair of movies. Gonna be right there all right, as

1003
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: we can get ready to close to the show. Sanjay

1004
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: Law cowboy wide receiver coach not coming back. Adam Henry

1005
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: is reported to be coming in. So I was listening

1006
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: to Jacques Taylor, good, buddy, money, we used to work together.

1007
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Jacques Taylor was saying that he had a source inside

1008
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: and started talking about how bad Sanjay Law was as

1009
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: a coach and that Sanjay Law was a technical guy

1010
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: who sweet talk Jason Garritt into a job and he

1011
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: wasn't good and said, do not judge Amari Cooper based

1012
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: on Sanjay Lyle or even Michael Gallant. And then Fall said, well,

1013
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: how did these guys have the Numb're like, hey, these

1014
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: guys with that kind of talent that Sanjay Law is

1015
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: not good. Now, I will tell you this. I know

1016
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: someone who used to work on two stafs with Sanjay

1017
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: Law who thought that Sanjay was not good at his job.

1018
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: And when he got the job, and he said, had

1019
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: that guy get a job? He said, you know what,

1020
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: when Chris Hogan left Buffalo, he was just a guy

1021
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: ends up going into England, helps them go to Super

1022
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Bowls And he said, you know what, Robert Woods was

1023
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: there with Sanjay Lyle. Robert Woods was just a guy

1024
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, goes out out there to the Rams. The

1025
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: next thing you know, this guy straight ball and he says,

1026
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: how good is Sanjay? He said, he's not good and

1027
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: this thing was repeated. Now, I always say that success

1028
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: leaves clues. Cowboys just had two one thousand yard receives, right, yeah,

1029
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Sanjay's jobless, jobless right now? Is that man you know

1030
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: I have is the man with the bricks, right and

1031
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: the bricks And they said that they thought that Sanjay

1032
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: didn't understand the offense, that he didn't really understand the

1033
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: concepts of the offense of the Cowboys. So yes, so

1034
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: on the way I sang Jay Lyle with the you know,

1035
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: a scathing criticism of him also not kept in So

1036
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: Adam Henry is going to be coming to uh coming here,

1037
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: but yes, Sanjay not there. So that this was also

1038
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: one of the issues of how do you judge Amari

1039
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Cooper and a Mari Cooper as I said, the source

1040
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: told Jacques because I told you, I said, guy wasn't

1041
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: one hundred percent even though he said he was fine,

1042
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: wasn't hurting. The guy wasn't The guy was not there.

1043
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: And then how do you judge Amar Cooper when you've

1044
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: got a wire receivers coach that you don't think highly up.

1045
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: I think the last six games, I hope he was hurt. Yeah,

1046
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: he better have been hurt. I don't have nothing about coaching.

1047
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: The only the only thing that make you played that

1048
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: bad is that caliber receiver is being hurt. And I

1049
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: talked to coach and I told you I didn't think

1050
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: the guy was straight. You know, he came into the

1051
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: season injured and he and he had a decent year

1052
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: by his standards. But they're still a guy one also

1053
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: all right? Byron Jones. It's another thing that Jack had

1054
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: brought up on his show Jam session on ESPN Dallas.

1055
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Here that Byron Jones seventy three games, two picks, and

1056
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to decide what type of number they give him. Um,

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Speaker 1: I forgot that Byron's an older place, twenty eight years old.

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00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: How many yes, remember he played all four years that

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00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: you come. So you're talking about trying to give up,

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00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, a contract of four or five years to

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00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: a players twenty eight years old? Two picks. And here's

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00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: the two picks he had. He had one on a

1063
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: hail mary and the other one was off a tip ballot.

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00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's his completion on his way. What I'm saying, like,

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: pix matter, pis matter, but getting the ball caught on

1066
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: you matter more. And in today's NFL, what are you

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: paying for? You're paying for guys who can get their

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: hands on the ball. So this is what this is

1069
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: another big decision. What you're looking at with Cooper? What

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00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: do you weigh? Same thing with Byron Jones? What are

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00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: you weighing? And then what is it gonna cost you?

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna try He's gonna probably command thirteen to fourteen

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00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: millions dollars, So Cooper may want twenty and you may

1074
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: try to set on eighteen million dollars. So how much

1075
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: do you you know? I just believe you're gonna come

1076
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: down or choosing one of these things and keeping on three.

1077
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: So just like REVS right, So when when when Rex

1078
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: Ryan had REVS right? The thing that Rex Ryan was

1079
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: able to do was playing only for half of the field.

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00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: He put REVS out there by itself and that he

1081
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: was able to focus his defense on everybody else, which

1082
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: is for defensive coordinators, it's probably the best thing that

1083
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: you can get when minus not having interceptions, When you

1084
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: put Byron out there, that is what you get. You

1085
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: get where this is this is your guy, You follow

1086
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: this guy, this is your guy. Everybody else we're gonna

1087
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: focus on the other team. Guys, right, kind of comes

1088
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: down to who who? Who? Would you have to have

1089
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: the Who's the guy from Baltimore? Who's a game Peters? Peters?

1090
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: Who who got random by the LA? He gets burnt

1091
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: up by the LA. He makes big plays in Baltimore,

1092
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: but he also gives up big plays. Or do you

1093
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: want a consistent factor? He might not make a lot

1094
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: of interceptions, but he does hold it side of the

1095
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: field down. That's just what they got away when somebody

1096
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: else gets some picked scheme for him acceptions from the

1097
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: other guy. All right, don't cut number one while he

1098
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: on the place. But let's fast let's fast track through

1099
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: a couple of these topics. Right here at the end

1100
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: of the show. Dez Bryant is uh talking about to

1101
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: come back, and there's some folks who wants to see

1102
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: him wear the star again. I think des would like

1103
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: to wear a star again. Where we where are you

1104
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: standing on? I just it's two years out of the game.

1105
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: That's that's tough to come back from. I don't know

1106
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: if he'll be able to do it, but yeah, I

1107
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: mean I want to see him play. Um, I don't know, Jim, So,

1108
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where the fit is. I know that

1109
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: we you know, it all depends on what they do

1110
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: with Coop. And you got Gallop at number two, so

1111
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: as here playing third receiver. You know your thirds, his plans,

1112
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: But what is he what is he able to do?

1113
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: I want to see him to get out there. I

1114
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: want to see him get a chance to play, because

1115
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: it's obvious that Daz love loves football. He's been loving

1116
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: his entire life. So give somebody to give him a shot.

1117
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'd be Jerry, And then we

1118
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: know Jerry loves him, so you never know him. This

1119
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be a different system. It's gonna be a

1120
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: different system, different room. So but you got three receivers.

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01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: You got Cob, you got Gallup, and you got Coop already,

1122
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: so somebody got to move over. And there was my

1123
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: next thing is you know McCarthy came out single that

1124
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: Randall calls the press company want so he wants him here,

1125
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: and then Cobb knows the offense. And if you're Mike McCarthy,

1126
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: what better thing to have as a receiver who can

1127
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: help teach everybody else what it is you want. So

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: Cobb is going to find a spot here Gallup is

1129
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: under contract, he's an emerging player. There's no need to

1130
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: do anything to try and hold him back. And then

1131
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: you've got Amari Cooper, who they say they want back.

1132
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: Who's Jack's number one guy. He's got a comfortable So

1133
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: where does des fit? You? Guys know that if Dez

1134
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: is here, you fourteen guy, you don't play special teams.

1135
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: You can't afford it. Can't do it, not do not.

1136
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: When Rick Goslin's special teams rankings came out of the

1137
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys finished thirty first overall, can't do it. Can't do

1138
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: it because because that that puts your new special team

1139
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: coaching a boy. And you have a player who doesn't

1140
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: play on his teams and he's just taking up a spot.

1141
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: So John Fossil, right there, you don't have you don't

1142
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: have Dez Bryance. I mean, you wouldn't have Des Brynd

1143
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: available with special So to me right there, we've already

1144
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: taken him out and let's depend on what happens with Coop. Yeah. Um,

1145
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: if they don't bring Coop, you think no. Okay, forgot

1146
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: here's the guy that was last time we were talking

1147
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: about him, he said he was gonna go work with

1148
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: a route coach. That is true. And what was used

1149
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: against him and said the whispers was, hey man, this

1150
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: guy doesn't run precise routes. But he didn't. He might

1151
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: be doing it now he saw the videos. If you're

1152
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, is this what you want to deal with?

1153
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: And you know, I just I just think that. I

1154
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: just think the ship is sale. It's hard to go home.

1155
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to go home somebody. It might not be,

1156
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: it might not be here, but I think he's gonna

1157
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: get a shot. And I think if he does, I

1158
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: think he's gonna shine as much as he can. I

1159
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: could see him making some place you can be a

1160
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: real zone talket somewhere yet some job and that and

1161
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: that goes to what we spoke about. This is how

1162
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: does the team want to make up their roster? And

1163
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: you want to make up a roster of knowing that

1164
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's not going to play specials

1165
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: for you, and though these are these are decisions, he

1166
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: plays a better shot of going to New Orleans then

1167
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: then trying to come here. I just don't think Mike

1168
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy here is gonna want to go and deal with

1169
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: that and everything that you've seen in the past versus, hey,

1170
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: can you go sign me? And Amari Cooper, who has

1171
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: a who has a connection with my quarterback? What's the

1172
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: one thing we saw about Dez and in that they

1173
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: didn't have a connection. They didn't have a connection at

1174
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: this point in time. I just wouldn't want to gamble

1175
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: on for some of these two years out of the game,

1176
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: and you know you can't. And he was already an

1177
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: older player coming back from injuries. He's not gonna be

1178
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: He's not going to be the dead of twenty fourteen.

1179
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: This is true. He's not that same player. It's like

1180
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: a boxer man. You know, as you get older and

1181
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, you get injured. Me you're just not saying

1182
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: and it's not to say he can't play, but it's

1183
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: what it is, all right. The music is playing, Danny mccraig,

1184
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: Newy Scrugs and Barry Church. We appreciate what. We're back

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Speaker 1: next Friday right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Rady.

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