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Speaker 1: Revee revee dalks. Look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Yeah, we need a new intro.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's time. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? On this fifteenth day of April

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four was supposed to be the beginning of

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Speaker 2: Well, oops, hey, I'm not here to hate on the

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Speaker 2: Ultimate Fighting Championship today. Okay, I'm here to lather on

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Speaker 1: Not today. Welcome everyone, it's time for Morning Combat. We

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Speaker 1: so appreciate you joining us here in our New York

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Speaker 1: City studios. My name is Luke Thomas. That's Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: fresh from his florification. I have to tell you. You

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Speaker 1: do look rested. Your spirit seems lifted. You don't have

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Speaker 1: much of a tan I don't really tan well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's my you know, my cross breeding Lithuanian

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Speaker 1: That la tanwell. Do you mean sat inside with the

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I I do the beaches on

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Speaker 2: the Gulf side of Florida are so not Florida. They're wonderful,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I could you know? I could?

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Speaker 2: I could stay there for a few days. I could

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Speaker 2: you know? I did?

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Speaker 1: You did you know?

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Speaker 2: I won't go as far as living there, though, thank you? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I missed the bit. I'm so grateful

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Speaker 2: you know who takes a vacation during UFC three hundred.

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Speaker 2: My kids do, So you're gonna like it. My mom

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Speaker 2: had all these temporary tattoos, so I put all these

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Speaker 1: All right, maybe next time. We have a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to. Today. UFC three hundred was on Saturday, easily

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Speaker 1: UFC history. We're gonna get to every element of that.

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Speaker 1: But that is not all because this is also Hainy

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Speaker 1: Garcia fight week. We're gonna set the table for that

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Speaker 1: event and BC twelve thirty. Yeah, via zoom, via zoom,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Jorge masmital here. Now, you were there

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Speaker 2: Connor McGregor, which we will also get into. And I

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Speaker 2: morning Combat Dot Store, Luke. I want to shout out

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Speaker 2: Sam from the UH I got mentioned. I don't get

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Speaker 1: start actually with our UFC three hundred conversation BC. I

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Speaker 1: the biggest story coming out of UFC three hundred and

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Speaker 1: that is the ascension of Max Blessed Holloway. BC. My

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Speaker 2: It gives him a second expansive prime. And I know

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Speaker 2: Max has the ultimate viral moment, completely redeems himself again

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Speaker 1: He's already a big star.

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Speaker 2: In in our hearts and he just doubled down on that

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Speaker 1: First of all, he didn't just knock out Justin Gatchee.

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Speaker 1: number of ways. Here's one of my favorite ones. I

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Speaker 1: found out the other day. He is the only fighter

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Speaker 1: in UFC history to have sixteen different fights where he

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Speaker 1: landed one hundred significant strikes ready for this. The next

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Speaker 1: closest has ten. He is the leader in all times

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Speaker 1: significant strikes. The differential he has between strikes landed and

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Speaker 1: strikes absorbed is shocking. He is one of a kind

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Speaker 1: and now he is back to back one punch KOs

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Speaker 1: in his fights. One at one forty five, one at

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Speaker 1: one fifty five. Max Holloway is reborn. There is simply

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Speaker 1: no two ways about it. And if he got a

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Speaker 1: title shot at one fifty five, I'd be okay with it.

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Speaker 1: If he got a title shot at one forty five,

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Speaker 1: I'd be okay with it. It looks like one forty

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Speaker 1: five might happen sooner to pour you versus Halloween. I'm

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Speaker 1: an early read.

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Speaker 2: My early read is I want to ask you, being

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Speaker 2: a guy who's represented early come on board, said look

447
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Speaker 2: to Porio is the next dude, and he's going to

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Speaker 2: be there, and he did things to vault that that

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Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily fully expect. Did you feel like And

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to the tweet that Taporio just put out,

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Speaker 2: which is bold and strong, but I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you first his reaction at ringside, which original cage side.

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Speaker 2: Originally it was like shocked, as everyone does, because it

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Speaker 2: was a walk off KO and it wasn't insane when

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Speaker 2: Max said, hey man, I'll fight to Porio, I'll go

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Speaker 2: to Spain whatever. When they flashed back to Ilia, it

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Speaker 2: didn't seem like you wanted it. Tell me what you

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Speaker 2: felt in that.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are projecting. I think

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Speaker 1: is what happened. I think here's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Look, you look like I'm not gonna say this, but

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Speaker 2: he kind of looked like an whole bitch in that moment.

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Speaker 2: Now the tweet cover again.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Hey, put put the camera on me. Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: to Poria wasn't very funny at that press conference, and

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Speaker 1: he got his lunch money taken. I wonder what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen in the fight. He's gonna lose badly. Oh how'd

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Speaker 1: that fucking go? For all you Jabbroni's out there, listen

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Speaker 1: to me. This is this is the wrong time for

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Speaker 1: anybody to be fighting Ilio to Poria por He is

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Speaker 1: gonna win that fight. I love Max, Max just ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Jordan's like half the division and the fight I forgot

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Speaker 2: was which was virtuo.

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Speaker 1: So they can tell you. I don't think people really

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Speaker 1: understand how good great, put the camera back on me.

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Speaker 1: Put the camera back on me. There's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: you who have decided to learn about the Ilia Taporia experience,

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Speaker 1: the hard way not living in Spain. Right now you're

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Speaker 1: about to find out. Here's my here's my reaction. My

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Speaker 1: reaction was when I saw the video at first, he

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Speaker 1: was like kind of muted or you know, just to

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Speaker 1: a degree sheepish is how it looked for a second.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to have even an iota

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Speaker 1: of relevance by the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not projecting that he was scared. I just felt

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Speaker 2: like to him, he didn't calculate in that that was

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Speaker 2: that that moment was possible, and that maybe he's thinking,

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Speaker 2: O'Malley and super fight.

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Speaker 1: I still remember he was like, yeah, Max is done.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to fight this guy. I'm gonna fight Connor.

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Speaker 1: This was a bit of a wake up call that like,

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Speaker 1: you've got some work to do. It one forty, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And this fight would be massive. Let's please Long Island

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Speaker 2: Luke in the back throat of the tweet from Tiporio,

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Speaker 2: which is strong here it is, congrats on your performance, Max,

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Speaker 2: respect your story and everything you achieved with a beautiful family.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we're gonna share the octagon before the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. I like that, and trust me, he said,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna feel something that you never felt before. I

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Speaker 2: will be the first one to take your lights out

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Speaker 2: and added the biblical verse Philippians four thirteen. Max responded

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Speaker 2: and said, it's all love, let's do it. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: How big is this fight?

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Speaker 1: Huge? Massive, absolutely gigantic. You could put it in Spain.

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Speaker 1: You could put it in the United States, you could

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Speaker 1: put it in Canada.

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Speaker 2: Jerry World, allegiant, you could put it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the UFC just doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: want to do stuff like that. So, like to answer

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Speaker 1: your question, it's like, dude, me and BC saw Spence

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Speaker 1: versus Ugas there, like, yeah, you could do Taporia versus

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Speaker 1: Vulk or uh, excuse me, Toporia versus Holloway there. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think the UFC has designs on that. But

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Speaker 1: when he beat Vulk, I didn't know how this was

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Speaker 1: gonna go. You were like, well, let's see how he

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Speaker 1: gets through that experience. Dude. His face, Max's face after

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Speaker 1: this fight was barely scratched. It was barely scratched. He

519
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Speaker 1: was the one who was handing out the ass again

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Speaker 1: for virtually the entire twenty five minutes. Again. The fourth round,

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Speaker 1: for sure, for Getchee was a good round, but the

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Speaker 1: rest of it it was just all Max and Max forget,

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Speaker 1: don't forget. In the fifth round he rocked Justin geigee. Again.

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Speaker 1: This fight is huge, and if to Portia can go

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Speaker 1: in there and do what I think he will probably do,

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Speaker 1: which is win, obviously, it's gonna blow his start him

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Speaker 1: up as well. Let me let me be, let me

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Speaker 1: put the reverse. If I am wrong and Max go's

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Speaker 1: in there and wins, that would be one of the

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Speaker 1: most legendary fucking things I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had already was what he did to getche.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned his face. I don't want to talk about

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Speaker 2: his face. I want to talk about Luke Thomas's face.

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Speaker 2: We all remember when Dustin Portier finished Connor McGregor in

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Speaker 2: the rematch and we had the ski pole moment and

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Speaker 2: it was great. Luke, you lost your ship on the

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas Live show. You and shut out Othello in

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Speaker 2: the background.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what the people saw that we're watching live

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Speaker 2: from Justin.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Ship.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were reacting to another technical difficulty that.

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Speaker 1: I could have been what you could say whatever you

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Speaker 1: want about me. You can't say I'm not a five fan.

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Speaker 2: No, that's pure That's why people love it because it's

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Speaker 2: pure and weird, but it's pure, and that's why people

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Speaker 2: definitely dig it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there gesticulating, like gesticulating, yes, gesticulating like a

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Speaker 1: like a fucking Colombian vaginato singer differences, But seriously, I

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Speaker 1: didn't my favorite.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what my favorite thing about Columbia? It turns

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Speaker 2: out our visionato, so that that's very It's.

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Speaker 1: The type of it's a type of like country.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I like, literally was so overwhelmed with emotion. I

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Speaker 1: had to take off my glasses and I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what to do.

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Speaker 2: When you say you were rock hard with emotion, would

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Speaker 2: you say I was?

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Speaker 1: I felt electric? Cugeuse. Some people thought you looked like

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Speaker 1: you were on a roller coaster.

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Speaker 2: I think you had a magic mountain downstairs. But that's

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Speaker 2: neither here nor there. Let's keep it rolling because we

567
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Speaker 2: have such a loaded show. Do you have any other topics?

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Speaker 2: Reallygarded to Max Sarah.

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Speaker 1: We could talk forever, but we got stuffy.

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Speaker 2: Topic number two does take us to the actual main

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Speaker 2: event of UFC three hundred. Here light have you eight title?

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Speaker 2: I always like to coming in the new champ against

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Speaker 2: the champ that never lost it. But it turns out

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Speaker 2: one of these two. Wow, right Alex Padata Poeton Wow,

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Speaker 2: first round KO, first big punch, that counter left hook,

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Speaker 2: which is maybe the biggest weapon right now on the

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Speaker 2: entire sport. Luke Thomas, Alex Patata's Pereira's quick and efficient

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Speaker 2: KO win over Jamal Hill means blank.

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Speaker 1: No one has no kickboxer, no elite kickboxer. Let me

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Speaker 1: say it this way, Alex Padata is the most successful

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Speaker 1: elite kickboxer to ever cross over into MMA. Now understand something.

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Speaker 1: You could debate that because you can say, well, Izz,

583
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: he was a champion, So here's what I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: he's like the second best to ever do it at middleweight.

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Speaker 1: A guy like Padata doesn't have all of those same accolades,

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Speaker 1: He's got different ones. But remember he was a multiple

587
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Speaker 1: time Glory champion and now he's been a division champion

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Speaker 1: in two different weight classes. He's now defended this title,

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Speaker 1: just the.

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Speaker 2: Fourth UFC fighter in history to defend titles in two

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Speaker 2: different divisions.

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Speaker 1: He's beaten five former champions. When you look at kickboxers

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Speaker 1: who have crossed over, guys like Mirco Crow Cop, guys

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Speaker 1: like Stefan Laco, guys like and you know Bob well,

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Speaker 1: Bob sat not really, but Melvin Manhoff. You can go

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Speaker 1: down the list. They've all done well to different degrees,

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Speaker 1: and they've certainly been very accomplished. I don't know anyone.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Padeta has the same kind of

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Speaker 1: resume as Izzy. Will always be, in my judgment, at worst,

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Speaker 1: the second best middleweight of all time. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: put Padata necessarily in a similar kind of category just

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Speaker 1: due to the short amount of time. But no one

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00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: has been an elite kickboxer, made them move over to

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Speaker 1: MMA and collected as many meaningful trophies with this kind

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Speaker 1: of meaningful victories, this quickly, this matter of factly.

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Speaker 2: Ever, in his eighth UFC fight, in his eighth UFC fight,

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00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: five consecutive former current champions, defeated bounce back from one

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Speaker 2: of the gnarliest knockout losses in his rematch in the

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Speaker 2: NMA World with Atosanya in Miami, which included the ultimate

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Speaker 2: meme celebration, which then Poton reversed on hill in this one,

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Speaker 2: which is incredible and looke, I don't want to harp

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00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: on it, because but I do think UFC got it wrong,

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00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: way wrong. BMF should have been the main event, Max,

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00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: and justin not just the way the fight played out

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Speaker 2: with the star power, what it means such a celebratory

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00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: fun action revenge not revenge, violent moment. But yet Poton

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00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: still goes out there in the main event, absolutely drills

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Speaker 2: and finishes a former champion with the first punch he

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Speaker 2: lands and does it in the coldest mother fucking way

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00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: of each The low blow tell us the referee noll

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Speaker 2: I got this, let me cook, let me cook, basically

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00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: chef Curry over here, and then delivers the punch from

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Speaker 2: hell and then instantly has loaded the viral celebration of like,

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, the payback for all the trash talk. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw as Poton was walking

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00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: into the arena doing his his uh, his name, what's

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00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: the nicest way to call that dance sort of ceremony

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00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: to the y to the what to the indigenous people?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: And then Joe Tall Hills in the ring, you know,

631
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: pretending that he's breaking the arrow and over his leg

632
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: and doing that. You know, now, I don't have anything

633
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: against Jamal Hill coming in confident right there, but that

634
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: was such a freaking cold moment in an iced ending

635
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: that he delivered. Nobody was ever whether it was the

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00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: comin event or the main event, going to live up

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00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: or to top what the BMF fight was, but poheto came.

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Speaker 1: Pereta potato head.

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Speaker 2: Perreira came really damn close to winning the night with

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Speaker 2: this performance, and historically it's like what do we do

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00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: with him? I mentioned he's one of now four people

642
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: that defend titles in two different divisions in the three names,

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00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: are you know all timers? Does he have the best

644
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: crossover not just as kickboxer, but like ever And I'm

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00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: comparing it to Henry Shudo going from Olympic wrestling champion

646
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: to two division UFC champion, Holly Holm going from a

647
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: seventeen world title wins in women's boxing and being in

648
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame to winning a UFC title. But

649
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: now he's won two UFC titles in eight fights, even

650
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: though he has a game on paper that's like one

651
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: dimensional that like doesn't play out. Who was the guy

652
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: who came in a couple years ago as a kickbox

653
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: It was a go gokanak and he just got absolutely

654
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: drilled and never came back that happens. The point is

655
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: that happens. He has walked in, joined team to share

656
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. We might have a new King of Connecticut here,

657
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: and just absolutely took over the sport, canceled out all

658
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: of the negatives to his game, takedown defense, All of

659
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: that plays within his strengths is Clutch has incredible cardio,

660
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: is mean as shit, is really fun and viral and

661
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: is this like fun superhero that everybody loves who's actually

662
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: becoming a legitimate star. Delivers an incredible viral moment that

663
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: probably would have been talked about forever if Max didn't

664
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: do what he did in terms of how he just

665
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: sent Jamal Hill down and now teases the idea of

666
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: not only I want to come back in Brazil for

667
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: UFC three oh one, but I want it to be

668
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: at heavyweight and no disrespect again to viatally my Lincoln

669
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: of one championship, who is a three division champion for

670
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 2: them Vatican, but with their weight class high rehydration, I

671
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: just I call him Vitalie Clichko basically Mallikin Malick and Allikin.

672
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.

673
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: When he wins three championship, you know the middleweight one

674
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: is at two hundred five pounds, so it's basically like heavyweight,

675
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: we have a chance here, we have an opening here.

676
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: We always thought to be Connor. It might be Pooton,

677
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: the first person to legitimately walk in and have a

678
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: shot at winning a third title in a third weight class.

679
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: I didn't love Dana's answer afterwards at the Giddy press

680
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: conference is saying, well, it seems like he's got a

681
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: lot of business to do in his own division. Let's

682
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: hold like, let's slow the brakes. I feel like what

683
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: Pooton has done in the short window, two championships, everything,

684
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: headlining MSG, headlining three hundred, what else could this man do?

685
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Were the the UFC basically should.

686
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: Bend to his will. Oh you want to fight to heavyweight,

687
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: then we'll get you in line. Oh you want to

688
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: turn around quick and help us? Three on one, which

689
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: is right now? I don't want to say this after

690
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: three hundred, just blow our brains positively, but three oh

691
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: one on paper is one of the worst paper view

692
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: cards of all time. Let that man fight there, get

693
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: a heavyweight up in the bullpen. Let's make a fun

694
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: attraction fight.

695
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: If he wants to.

696
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: Go for a third title, He's thirty six years old.

697
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: He's not getting any younger. This is the guy. Embrace

698
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: him usc as much as Max just doubled down on

699
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: his celebrity. Poloton is here and he's one of the

700
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 2: most unique crossover forces the sport has ever seen. If

701
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: he wants to go fight, John Jones set up the fight. Look,

702
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm serious. What this guy has done in a window

703
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: this big is absolutely ridiculous. Has he benefited from time

704
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: and place and opportunity, Yes, but he's delivered in each

705
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: of these fights, including rallying to knock out Israel Asania

706
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: in round five at middleweight. I don't know what else

707
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: to do. He shouldn't have to stay at two of five.

708
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: He should do whatever the hell he wants.

709
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand the whole idea of let's fast

710
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: track this guy at middleweight, then fast track him at

711
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: light heavyweight. You get two. Obviously, you know he got

712
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: the second of the two MMA meetings, but you fast

713
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: tracked him. He got a title at middleweight. You fast

714
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: tracked him at light heavyweight. He got a title there.

715
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: What's the point in slowing him down? Now? BC to

716
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: your point, every time you Alley ooped this guy.

717
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: He slammed dunks with style, with with style, Why would

718
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: you slow down the freight train?

719
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: Now? I'm completely on board. First of all, let me

720
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: just say something about you mentioned about Max should have

721
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: been the main event. I agree, and Max noted pre fight. Hey,

722
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: we're the ones where all the advertisements are based around.

723
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that's why he got the six hundred k,

724
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: which is why they were thinking he will will right.

725
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: But getting back to Padeta here, he did his job

726
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: at main event. I mean, you go down and you

727
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: look at the details of how he hand fought Jamal

728
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Hill and how he circled out and got him, Like, dude,

729
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: did you notice when he landed that left hook it

730
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: was wide open? He made it wide open. He made

731
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill make mistakes, the level of a refinement in

732
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: his game and BBC the ruthless efficiency. He doesn't need

733
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: to land on you any times, just needs one or

734
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: two good ones and your shit is over? Bub Do

735
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: I think he can beat tom aspinall? I don't think

736
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: he can beat tom aspinall. Do I think he should

737
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: get a fight against Tom Aspinall?

738
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: Fuck?

739
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, make that fight?

740
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

741
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: The new King of Connecticut is here.

742
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Yes, speed run this guy's UFC Hall of Fame effort.

743
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: Speed run it.

744
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: He embrace it.

745
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: Can you imagine him? Can you imagine Brian Campbell if

746
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: he goes in there and takes again. Do I think

747
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: it's likely. I don't think it's likely. But if he

748
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: took Aspinall's head off and he becomes that would be

749
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: still an interim champion, but we would all know what

750
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: that would mean. Dude, you are talking about something that

751
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: is fucking basically impossible. Let him cook. He should do

752
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: that to Data. Hold on, Dana, let me cook.

753
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I could say negative about Data

754
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: that comment. But I want to say this, like it's

755
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: not just stepping up and then elevating and over delivering.

756
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, we thought wrestlers were going

757
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: to take him down. We thought all these things.

758
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: No, they still they still might.

759
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: He still might. And I know that at times he's

760
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: benefited from opportunistic matchmaking. But he went in there and delivered.

761
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: He's a one of one, embraced that UFC Again, He's

762
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: not getting any younger, although he does operate in the

763
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: heavier divisions. I just think Chuck Mindenhall deserves the ultimate

764
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: high five, not just for being a great guy. Luke

765
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: in a great analyst. But on pregame preview a couple

766
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: of years ago, and I always referenced this, he said

767
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: ahead of that first out of Sonya Poton Fight. We

768
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: think the story is all about Izzy and redeeming himself

769
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: against the bad guy at the end of the movie

770
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: in his kickboxing career. It turns out this was Poeton's

771
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: story all along. He's right, And I don't say that

772
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: to diminish what Atta Sonya is achieved or what he

773
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: will continue to go on to achieve. But Luke, this

774
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: is the ultimate storybook crossover. And the fact that he

775
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: actually got knocked out in the most vicious and viral

776
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: way in the middle of that and just said, oh, Effett,

777
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: I'll go up to light heavyweight and be Pratska, be Plahovi.

778
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: It's like, be all these legitimate ass names. Has a

779
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: win over Sean Strickland. It's like, this is exactly if

780
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: you're the UFC who you want to be, an organic

781
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: superstar who everyone respects, he understands he or he's got

782
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: the Easter Island statute. Gammeck going like he gets it,

783
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: like you know, attractive women too, Luke, not that that

784
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: should be a part of my analysis.

785
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: Again, going back to the Max thing, Dude, Poton also

786
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: wins in a way that speaks to his personality, you know. Again,

787
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: doesn't say a lot, but gets it done. Doesn't say

788
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: a lot. He's not at Max. Is more of a

789
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: volume play in striking. Obviously that power is now coming along.

790
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Poton's not a volume play. He's not a volume play guy.

791
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: He's not trying to do a ton of different stuff.

792
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: He has a very smooth game and one or two

793
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: points of contact and the whole shit comes under.

794
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: And I get what Dane is ultimately saying. We still

795
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: have to do Jones steep Aven though we don't, and

796
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: then we still have to try fuck about it, try

797
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: to make Aspenhall versus you know, but Aspirinhaal is the

798
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: one who's left out of this picture because of that fight.

799
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: If we have to build toward.

800
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: You know, give him a setup, give him a set

801
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: up in Brazil, give him a heavyweight set up in Brazil.

802
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: Eric Lewis, anyone, just do it?

803
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Last thing I want to say about this, you

804
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: had mentioned that we have to give credit to Justin gatchee,

805
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: which we do. He made Max is right. It takes

806
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: two to tango. It's not just that he had to

807
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: offer the opportunity, but you had to fight a certain

808
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: way to make that outcome. That's a real thing. Listen,

809
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill, this was a bad loss, but number one,

810
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: he came back to me on an expedited timeline. I'm

811
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: not sure that was the best thing for him in

812
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: terms of winning and losing. He might have gotten a

813
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: big bag for it. So it's a complicated call, but

814
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: for winning purposes, it didn't do him any favors. And listen,

815
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: we didn't really know how much rivalry there was going

816
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: to be between the two. I think his antics. While

817
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: some people are calling him cringe and they're killing him

818
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: for it, I think it brought the best out of Poeton,

819
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest with you. So I give credit

820
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: to both Justin Gaegee as well as Jamal Hill for

821
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: trying to make in their own ways, the fight's bigger

822
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: and better.

823
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: Than they I'm not mad that Jamal had got this fight.

824
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: From a Jamal Hill standpoint. He's an opportunist. They said,

825
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: can you turn it around the time he turned around

826
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: from a serious injury very fast. I know it didn't

827
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: go his way, but I respect that just the same.

828
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: All Right. You see, let's talk about the co main event,

829
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: which is the thing that was a perfectly fine fight

830
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: just be for achieved it did it did? It just didn't.

831
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: It was hard to stand out on a card like that.

832
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: My question to you is as follows. Jean Waite Lee

833
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: scored a perfectly fine but I would say, ultimately, you know,

834
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: a fine win over Yon chan Nan. Is there any

835
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: big takeaway from this?

836
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: No, just that she continues to be the best strawweight

837
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: of the day right now. And I'm not again gonna

838
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: go that the Rose trilogy fight needs to happen, but

839
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: it's still the missing link in her being absolutely perfect.

840
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: She's nine and known the UFC facing anyone but Rose

841
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: nama Unis, and the improvements that she has made from

842
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: the two Rose nama Unis losses three years ago have

843
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: been incredible, especially on the ground. She was pushed in

844
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: this fight by Yan Channon's toughness and by the fact

845
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: that I think Wayley orded a little bit too much

846
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: out in the tank trying to finish her in round two.

847
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: But the way that she came back again speaks to

848
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: championship experience, and toughness speaks to incredible Cardio speaks to

849
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: knowing how to win a fight, going back to the

850
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: roots of the ground game, knowing, Okay, at the very

851
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: least I can neutralize her there, and that's how she

852
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: won the championship rounds and was able to get the win.

853
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: In a way, It's just that Yan Channon kind of

854
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: overachieved from a toughness damp point, from a being a

855
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: big out, a physically tough appoint that I don't think

856
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: we gave enough credit coming in when we actually broke

857
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: down the fight outside of saying that it was kind

858
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: of miscast in its spot. But Wayey is a special,

859
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: all time great fighter in women's MMA history, and I

860
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: think it's just another difficult test that became difficult out

861
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: of nowhere that she's still adjusted in past and that's

862
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: what greats do. But Jason Herzog twice a kind of

863
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: gave jan Chandon every possible chance to succeed. Now, so

864
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: did the tattooed weed referee in Lesnar Carwin, Right, Josh,

865
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: he doesn't do that. If he doesn't do that, we

866
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: don't have that all time great moment. What did you

867
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: think in general about Jason Herzog not just allowing Yan Channon,

868
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: who did seem out at the end of round one

869
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: with the choke, to stand up on her own power?

870
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Was that the right call within the rules set? And

871
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: then you easily could have seen that fight stopped in

872
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: round two when the ground and pound sitting on Yon's back,

873
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: just pounding to the side of her head. You know,

874
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't Sometimes you like when an

875
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: aging champion, who who's got that will get to that

876
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: extra hook? It was too much extra hook.

877
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: It fell like So there was a joke that was

878
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: going around after the fight, which was not only did

879
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Joan Wiley win, she won by first round submission, second

880
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: round TKO, and then by decision, which is not an

881
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: unfair thing to say. I mean, listen, I'll say this.

882
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: I think Jason Hrstog we see is one of the

883
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: best referees we have.

884
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: He might be the best.

885
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they make every decision that you

886
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: love or every decision that's correct. I actually looked into this.

887
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rule is because she lets

888
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: go of the choke and in the first round and

889
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: Yon Shannon is there, but you know it's these chokes

890
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: are blood chokes, so you're waiting for circulation to happen

891
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: to regain full consciousness. I know, if a fighter gets rocked,

892
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: they can't be saved by the belt, Like if they

893
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: stand up and another falling over, they might just wave it.

894
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: She was stumbling and he actually, like, for a minute,

895
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: I could be getting this detail wrong, but I believe

896
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: he actually like helps write her posture a little bit.

897
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are with that. I

898
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: actually I looked into it. There's nothing really clearly like

899
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: can the referee assist in these circumstances between rounds? I

900
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: don't know. In the end, the right guy won. And

901
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: I will also say for jan Shaunn, she performed. I mean, listen,

902
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: she was overmatched, right. She nearly got choked out in

903
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: the first round. She nearly got stopped in the second round.

904
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: I thought some of her takedown defense was relatively speaking,

905
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: much improved. I thought some of her defense first round

906
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: notwithstanding over as the course of the fight went on,

907
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: it got better and better. It was a perfectly serviceable

908
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: contender performance in the end. My biggest takeaway from this though,

909
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: was BC one again. It doesn't seem like it was possible.

910
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: But had this fight taken place in China, I think

911
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: it would have been a better fit. But the big

912
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: takeaway I had was along till Tatiana Suarez is.

913
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Right ray call because my takeaway was as much as

914
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: I love the Strawaway division and always have, I thought

915
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: the first UFC fight card I ever attended and covered

916
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: in person was the finale in twenty December twenty fourteen,

917
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: when when Rose lost to Carla Esparza in the final there.

918
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: But the division is on a little bit of down times,

919
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: a little bit hard times right now. Yo want has gone,

920
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Rose has gone Wayley's still the business, but the contenders

921
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: behind her outside of SWA don't have that threat anymore

922
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: of being able to win the title on any night.

923
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: Suarez is the one that is the one.

924
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: If she's not the one, then it's gonna be old

925
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: age that gets her.

926
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Right, But that's the fight to make you know. I

927
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: don't I'm in the past. We're like, well, maybe Walley

928
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: will plight Valentine. I don't need that. Most people don't

929
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: need Rosen a title fight. Again, I'm not one of them.

930
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: I do.

931
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: But whatever Tatiana is the fight to make. But if

932
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk women's MMA, we gotta talk Kyla Harrison.

933
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: So let's let's transition to that. We'll stay on this

934
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: topic here what women's MMA more generally BC, Let's talk

935
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: about Kayla Harrison's win. What would a fight with Amanda

936
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Nunez mean for both of them? For bantamweight and for

937
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: the UFC if.

938
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison does what she teased on Saturday. And by

939
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: the way, we have to stop and just say Kayla

940
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: Harrison is one of one. She and I know I'm

941
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: using over using that term in this show, but animal.

942
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: She is an animal. She is a winner. She is

943
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: someone who I mean, the reason why I chair for

944
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: her a lot because her personal story of overcoming and

945
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: adopting her her nieces, nephews and becoming a mom. I mean,

946
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: it's just incredible. But let's talk about what she did.

947
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: She cut down to one hundred and thirty five pounds

948
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: and somehow made it look easy, even though this is

949
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous for somebody who contested in the Olympics of

950
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: judo at like one seventy two and had one fight

951
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: at one forty five and went in there against I know,

952
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: an aftermarket Holly Holm, but absolutely dominated her. If Kayla

953
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: can get into a title fight quick, whether it's next

954
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: against Raquel or she has to go through Penya or whatever,

955
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: she would need to do that first. She would need

956
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: to do that. But if she can become the women's

957
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: bantamweight champion, which to be honest, if she's gonna look

958
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: that good again, if she can make that cut again,

959
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: she would blow away pretty much everybody I think in

960
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: that division. Although I give Panya a shot, her against

961
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: Amanda could be one of the biggest fights in women's history.

962
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: Is that hyperbole? I think it could be.

963
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: To put the camera on me, make this fight, make

964
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: this fight, Make Kayla Harrison versus Amanda Neu Naza. I'm

965
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why. Very clearly, women's MMA desperately needs it.

966
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: That's why BC. Yeah, I have been saying this where yes,

967
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: some of the women's fights from a mathematical standpoint, you

968
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: can see that what we were doing when we did

969
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: okay bet, the chances of them going to decision is higher.

970
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: I think that's just a natural occupational reality. It doesn't

971
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: necessarily service women's MA, but I don't think it's the

972
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: biggest deal at the end of the world or the

973
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: end of the world. However, what I do think is

974
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: a big deal is right now. When you look at

975
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: the women's game, there are some interesting parts about it. Again,

976
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: this co main event, perfectly fine, perfectly action packed, nothing

977
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: wrong with it. Not remarkable, but perfectly fine. But there's

978
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: a lot of perfectly fine right now in the game.

979
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: You don't hear hardly any stories Alexa Grosso and Valentina Chichenko,

980
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: notwithstanding about rivalries storylines. Dude, when was the last time

981
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: there was a real deal, no bullshit grudge match versus plausa.

982
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. Or you could say

983
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: you Wanta versus Rowsey Tate two, Rossi Tate two. You

984
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: could also say the Shong Wi Lee versus You Want

985
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: to Fight wasn't a grudge match and still is the

986
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: best women's fight. You don't always need them, but I'm

987
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: just saying you still don't even have the option of

988
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: them these days. This is a grudge match between the

989
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 1: When Kayla Harrison says she's the best American judoka ever,

990
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: she is right. No one has ever won a gold

991
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: medal except for her. She did it fucking twice. When

992
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: people say, oh, I'm a world class athlete, half the

993
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: time they're bullshitting. It's true, and she says it, and

994
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: she's got beef with the best to ever do it

995
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: in MMA, and that person wants.

996
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: The smoke and a saucy backstory if you're going to

997
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: get a women's fight in this case, and I did

998
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: see a lot of unfortunate people being like Hooker's Holly

999
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: Holmes washed Caylee f those people. This was historically relevant

1000
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: in my opinion, for Kayla to come here and make

1001
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: this weight and dominate like she did. But this has

1002
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: the saucy WWE backstory. They were teammates at ATT when

1003
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: Amanda was the goat in the two division champion and

1004
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: the best of the world. She actively basically accused her

1005
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: coaches of favoring Kayla over her, which led her to

1006
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: open up her own gym and she seems much happier.

1007
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: But I was elated to see that video. We're going

1008
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: to see it, and have you seen the shit of

1009
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: Amanda doing a selfie in front of it, waiting for

1010
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: Tila hoping that she would call her name. That is

1011
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: great when you have a champion that retires on their

1012
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: own terms or any fighter, we salute them, and we

1013
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: did that to Amanda. Her walking away last year was storybook.

1014
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: It was perfect, like Robbi Lawler's.

1015
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: It was just chef's kiss. The fact that she still

1016
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: has that hunger and unfinished business. Kayla's not trying to

1017
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: be the greatest judoko ever. She's not trying to be

1018
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: the greatest crossover fighter. Right we talked about what Home

1019
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: did in Poloton. She's trying to be the greatest combat

1020
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: sports athlete of all time, you know, female or otherwise, Like,

1021
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: those are the goals that she's circling. So how big

1022
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: could a fight between her and Amanda even if it

1023
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: didn't hit commercially, because there're gonna be a lot of

1024
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: haters historically in something that matters and a matchup that

1025
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: is so interesting, Luke, from what you saw to Kayla,

1026
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: is that reproducible at one thirty five? And if it

1027
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: is that effort that ground game can anyone handle, that

1028
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: can anyone number that.

1029
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of these weight cuts she

1030
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: can make, and we need to be cognizant of that.

1031
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Like she's talking about I want to be at the title,

1032
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: about the end of the year, probably in part because

1033
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: she's got a handful of these she can get away

1034
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: with before her body just says no more. So let's

1035
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: understand that. But this is the thing I want to mention.

1036
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: There was a PFL show in Vegas on Friday, actually

1037
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: a good show, but in the end utterly forgettable, like

1038
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: everything PFL.

1039
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: Does except for the live mic. Unfortunately for O'Connell's I.

1040
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: Love sehanal Connor's actually a great.

1041
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: I didn't put in have you seen the chickcause I

1042
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: felt bad because it could happen to anybody, right, you

1043
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: gotta it's.

1044
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Like BC with the N word jokes. You just can't

1045
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: be doing stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, Wow, Wow,

1046
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm teeson, I'm teasing. What I want to say was

1047
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: in terms of this dude, look, she had an extra

1048
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: edge Kayla Harrison did all week. I think you saw

1049
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: that during the press events. But the thing that really

1050
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: stood out to me was do the elbows and her

1051
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: physicality in this weight class. I don't think making the

1052
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: cut to one thirty five is great for her, but

1053
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: her physical dominion over these mere mortals is so obvious.

1054
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: And then when you let her have elbows. Dude, look

1055
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: at what PFL did to her, Not so much the

1056
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: weight class part, which in that case I do think

1057
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: they accommodated her quite well, but in limiting her. She

1058
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: can't be this menacing force that you can sell to

1059
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: the public if she doesn't have access to the very tools,

1060
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: yes that make her the menacing figure that you can

1061
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: sell to the public, and under the Ultimate Fighting Championship

1062
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: in the situation she's in. Now you get all of that.

1063
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: And a great backstory if you want to tell it

1064
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: on ESPN aggressively right like, this could be something very

1065
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: big her coming over and looking like that and dominating

1066
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: the way she did. So, man, I want to see it.

1067
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: I want to see aman to get hunger and get

1068
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: back in there, but you want to see her show

1069
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: to the title path the right way. So is it

1070
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: right for her to face Pennington next? Or do you

1071
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: think the matchup is Pennington versus Juliana Panya and Kayla

1072
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: gets the winner.

1073
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: So what Kayla's told I believe tsn No, he's up

1074
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: with sports excuse me. With Aaron ben Brodstetter was that

1075
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: if the fight with Amanda Nonas got offered first, so

1076
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: she didn't get a title shot, and it was Nona's first,

1077
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: she would take it. So my answer is either either

1078
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: title shot or Amanda Nunas like this idea that, dude,

1079
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: we need to keep her busy, like the clock is

1080
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: ticking with her. She's thirty three years old. We've got

1081
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: just a couple of years.

1082
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: Why everyone's like Penia has to get the next shot.

1083
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: I mean she doesn't, She's never active. Unfortunately. I know

1084
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: she beat Amanda one of the greatest upsets we've ever seen,

1085
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: and it was emotional and I loved it. Got dominated

1086
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: in the second Kevin and I only had her pump

1087
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: for pont number one as recently as a few weeks ago.

1088
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: But you could go right there with Kayla versus Pennython.

1089
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: They've already been kind of trading trash talk. I think

1090
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: that's the right move right now to set up Amanda

1091
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: for the title of Kayla wins it. Do you think

1092
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: women's featherweight one forty five is kept around just in

1093
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: case Kayla can't.

1094
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: Reproduce this potentially, right, gives them a little bit of

1095
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: an out. It gives them some flexibility if there's an

1096
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: opportunity to explore that they at least have it in

1097
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: their back pocket like you. I don't think they have

1098
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: any real designs on one forty five. But let's say

1099
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: Kayla ends up beating a Manda Nunez and blows up

1100
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: and they want to do the rematch. They could do

1101
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: it at one forty five, right, And so that case,

1102
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: it gives you just some freedom to play with. But again,

1103
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: one more time, dude, they unleashed a fucking beast with

1104
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison, and I am so excited to see it.

1105
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: I just know the sands in the hour glass, the

1106
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: sand grain they're moving. We don't have a lot of

1107
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: time for her to make this weight consistently strike while

1108
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: the iron is hot. The women's game needs this so badly. Agreed,

1109
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Let's give it to them, all right?

1110
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: All right? Topic number four as we continue, God, there's

1111
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: so many storylines on this card. We said the fight

1112
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: of the night coming in could be the potential number

1113
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: one contender lightweight out and armand saryuki In was poised.

1114
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: He was well game planned, He was tough as nails

1115
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: to eke out a very very entertaining split decision over

1116
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera to seemingly put himself in the position for

1117
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: a title now. Subsequently, after the fight, Dana Whit announced

1118
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: it's actual Dustin Pourier that's going to get next. We

1119
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: did see some reports that sar Yukian was offered the

1120
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: fight the title but didn't want to turn around. It

1121
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: would have been a forty seven day turnaround that quickly.

1122
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Remember his whole storyline is the first time he fought

1123
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: mad Jev. It was a short camp, so I respect that.

1124
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: But from the standpoint of the performance, is this title worthy?

1125
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: Should he basically sit in the bullpen and get the

1126
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: winner of Islam versus Dustin at three to two.

1127
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: I'll say yes. Here's where I'm at with sar yukin

1128
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: BC and helped me if tell me if this makes sense,

1129
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: because I've been high on him and I am still

1130
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: high on him. I've been down on him based on

1131
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: some developmental issues like after the Gamrat fight, and I

1132
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: don't want to let all.

1133
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: Of them go body for days like another Army Ya.

1134
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: First team all body, I mean first team, and him

1135
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: and al Jabin Sterling first team all body, I mean,

1136
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: forget it. Well, when I think about this, it's like,

1137
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: if you look at what he achieved, he beat Charles

1138
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: Olavera over the course of three rounds. My first takeaway

1139
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: though I fight should have been five. Don't know how

1140
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: it would have gone after five, but it should have

1141
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: been five. That's what's number one. Number two?

1142
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: You mean you like he didn't like that the main

1143
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: event came on at two am Easter time. I mean,

1144
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: what do you want to do it?

1145
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I'm so glad my wife and

1146
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: kidder gone because I would be a horrible husband father

1147
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: the next day. All right, But what I'm what I

1148
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: want to get at BC was if I look at

1149
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: this win getting out of that guillotine, shooke, incredible grit,

1150
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: then taking him down, And here's what I was looking

1151
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: for because I did a pre fight breakdown Islam Makhachev

1152
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: went chest to chess with him on top the entire time.

1153
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: And if you don't give Charles Lavera any room, his

1154
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: guard never gets going. And how you neutralize it, by

1155
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: and large sar yuki and pulled off the same game plan,

1156
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: which means he had real pre fight strategy in place, Yes,

1157
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: and he executed it with strong defensive responsibility. That's exactly

1158
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: the kind of thing you want to see. On the

1159
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: other hand, he also kind of eked it out. On

1160
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: the other hand, nasty Charles is nasty. But what the

1161
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is I don't think it

1162
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: in any way makes the win look bad. That's not

1163
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What you're asking is, imagine someone runs

1164
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: for office and they barely win. Do they have what's

1165
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: called the political mandate to start instituting their reforms? Often not,

1166
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: But if someone wins like Ron Reagan did in the

1167
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: eighties with some gigantic landslide, now the wind is at

1168
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: your back, and now, like Max, you can start calling shots,

1169
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: and you can start asking for things, and people will

1170
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: have demand for it. BC. Was this the kind of

1171
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: win in your mind that gives him mandate? It's impressive.

1172
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: I value it. If he's the next guy. Fine, I

1173
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: didn't exactly see mandate.

1174
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: I guess I get what you're saying. If he had

1175
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: knocked him out, which would have been.

1176
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: A large four in that third round, really just stuck it.

1177
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: To then there, it would have been a greater argument.

1178
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: Now it does seem to be. I mentioned that report

1179
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 2: that he was offered the fight, and you can argue

1180
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: whether that was the perfect decision on what forty seven

1181
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: forty eight days. Notice, if you already had to take

1182
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: a short camp the first time, I can understand that.

1183
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: What I don't want to see is then he has

1184
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: to pass another test because would it have been better

1185
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: if he demonstratively finished him? Of course, but we had

1186
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: questions not about his power or his wrestling. We had

1187
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: questions more about those intangibles. I mean that knockout of

1188
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: benil Deru seemed to be like a breakthrough for him,

1189
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: that he could be nasty on this next level, putting

1190
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: his entire game together. What we still didn't necessarily know

1191
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 2: is when you're in there with someone who's a chaos

1192
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: doctor like OLIVERA, can you match him in stamina? Can

1193
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: you outthink him? Can you carry out the game plan?

1194
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: This wasn't as dramatic in an upscale of his ability

1195
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: of what I thought coming in as what Drichist did

1196
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: Duplessi did to ultimately take the Midway title, But in

1197
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: some degrees it mirrors that.

1198
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: To me.

1199
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: He showed us in this fight all the intangibles that

1200
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: I need to see, even though it was only three

1201
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: rounds and not five. So I'm not saying you can

1202
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: perfectly adapt that and guess where he would have been

1203
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: in rounds four and five. But that choke was Volkanovski

1204
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: or Tega looking deep in that second round, and he

1205
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: also or first round, whatever it was. And he also

1206
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: avoided a darsh choke at the end of round three,

1207
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: clowning out the seconds that I know maybe looks bad,

1208
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: but he still got the win. I still scored at

1209
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: two rounds to one for him, which I'm sure you did.

1210
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: He answered the real, tough, serious questions because Olivera's no frickin' joke,

1211
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: and he went to second and third elements of his

1212
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: game plan and dug deep to try to rally and

1213
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: come back, and Sar Yukin still didn't break. And Luke

1214
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: our analysis coming in of both of us picking Olivera

1215
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: as the hot underdog and basically saying, look, I've picked

1216
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: in the end, okay, But the basis for a lot

1217
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: of us was when it turns up and gets crazy,

1218
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: all Sar you can have to do is make that

1219
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: one mistake, whether it's in top position or it's on

1220
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: the feet, and Charles can close that door in a second.

1221
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: That mistake never happened, and he was in some deep territory,

1222
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: so he showed me championship guile. I don't think he

1223
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: should have to pass any more tests. I think that Look,

1224
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: the reason he didn't accept the fight was probably because

1225
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: they asked him right after the win and such a

1226
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: short turnaround.

1227
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: But if he heals up, if.

1228
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: He gets ready and gets game planned, he is a

1229
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: legitimate challenge for Islam, who's been dominating people. The storyline

1230
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: makes sense, it's perfect right. The only loss that he's

1231
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: had since that fight was the Gamraut fight, which was disputed,

1232
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: and you could have thought, sir, you can win that anyway,

1233
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: What else do you need from this whole?

1234
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree he should not need to pass

1235
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: any more tests. I'm not even sure who would be

1236
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: available if he needed to, to be perfectly honest with you,

1237
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: because we're gonna talk about Connor and Chandler here in

1238
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: just a second. But the thing for me was, it's like,

1239
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: as impressive as it was to beat Charles Lavera, as

1240
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: much growth as he showed, I think he's still got

1241
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: a few more gears to go before he really perfect,

1242
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: before he settles into like a very the kind of

1243
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: the kind of ability that would make me think he

1244
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: could win and defend a title. Okay, to me, what

1245
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: he showed was he can compete with the elite of

1246
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: the division. Did he show you that he can hold

1247
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: a title and defend it unless committed to that. After

1248
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: Islam beat Charles, you were like, oh, yeah, that fucker

1249
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: can hold it. You know what I mean? He can

1250
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: hold it.

1251
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: So I want to see. By the way, because the

1252
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: champion had a name Luke and OLIVERA had his swing

1253
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: there and he was reborn, I thought from the dry

1254
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: use knockout wind. But you think with everybody, I'd like

1255
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: to see him in the BMF lane. I'd like to

1256
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: see that BMF title, such a great idea defend it.

1257
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: I don't what I don't.

1258
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: By the way, Max and Charles have history. They already

1259
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: fought one time.

1260
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: And here's what I don't want to see for BMF.

1261
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be a thing where you

1262
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: just put that label on any fight you want to make.

1263
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: I actually want to see that the title get defended.

1264
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: I actually want to see there be a lineage of it.

1265
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1266
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: I think a lot of these guys should realize as

1267
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: long as they're getting paid, are they getting paid title?

1268
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: Yes, they get pay per viewpoints, they're.

1269
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: Getting payer viepoints and they're getting paid. Then this is

1270
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: perfect because it's that fun extra title. But I think

1271
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: Olivera is perfect for this division at this age, right.

1272
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Fighters make the title, not the

1273
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: other way around. You put Charles Olavera in that lineage,

1274
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: you would have Max former weight class champion, Charles former

1275
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: weight class champion, Gai Chee, former interim champion. This is

1276
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you need to see to

1277
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: be like, oh does the BMF belt anything? It depends

1278
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: who you book to fight in it, That's what it means' true.

1279
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: Do you think we should have a female one?

1280
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: Yes?

1281
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: Well again, I would love to see the game get

1282
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: to a point where the organic demand for it alive.

1283
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: That's I guess what I would say. All right, BC,

1284
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot to say about this one, but

1285
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: I do have to talk about it. Question number five

1286
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: for us here as we get through is Bo Nickel

1287
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: again fought what I would call perfectly fine, not amazing,

1288
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: but perfectly fine. However, I do think he struggled relative

1289
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: to expectations, certainly the odds against Cody Brundage. Is it

1290
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: time to pump the brakes on the bow Nickel hype.

1291
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: It's like yes and no, which I know that's that's

1292
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: sort of fence straddling. But the whole point is this.

1293
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: Very Luke Thomas answer.

1294
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: We were expecting, I guess on the hype and the

1295
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: odds and the way that he's finished everybody for him

1296
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: to just go in there, duck a punch, take him down,

1297
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: put on the submission and be like, Okay, it's gonna

1298
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: fight for the title next, Like what are we doing here? No,

1299
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: he's not that guy. I mean, who is that guy?

1300
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: Tremaiah looked like that guy for a minute, and even

1301
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: he's had a little bit of hitting the brakes for

1302
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: different reasons. No, in the overall lineage of where he's going,

1303
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: this is how you build a special, unique prospect.

1304
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: You escalate up.

1305
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: People were crapping on Cody Brunders. The odds makers were like,

1306
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: this guy's got no chance. Yet he came in there

1307
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: stuck on his best chance, which is coming there with

1308
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: the big bomb, try to make it a real fight,

1309
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: and actually landed some things and looked like he rock

1310
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: Nickel and I did like afterwards that bo was harsh

1311
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: on himself, maybe too harsh. Even Dana was like, no,

1312
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he was too harsh. He underperformed okay,

1313
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: but he's still like controlled almost all of the action,

1314
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: never got into any serious trouble and put him away.

1315
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: But people do ow Cody Brunt a little bit of respect.

1316
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean his defensive.

1317
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: He threw him by.

1318
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 2: This was the test we needed to see a young,

1319
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: aggressive guy who can wrestle a little bit as well

1320
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: and has a college background. I thought it was really

1321
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: kind of played out perfectly because if we don't see

1322
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: bo Nickel in any kind of resistance before he's in

1323
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: a really big fight, whether it's number one contender, whether

1324
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: it's the title, whether it's against just a huge celebrity name,

1325
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: you're never going to really know is he is he?

1326
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: Should he be here?

1327
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: Is he that great?

1328
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: I know what he can do in certain matchups is incredible.

1329
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: You needed to see this, so I don't hold this

1330
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: against him. You only hold this against him if you're

1331
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: expecting bow Nickel to sub everybody within two minutes, no

1332
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: matter of their talent level, the style contrast, or their experience. Right,

1333
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: If you're expecting that, it's not realistic. Outside of that,

1334
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if he actually should be that harsh luke.

1335
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if he should be that harsh hug right,

1336
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: I took care of business and gets a hungry young

1337
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: guy on a two fight wind streak.

1338
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think he should be harsh

1339
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: on himself. And here's what I'm going to say. Is

1340
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: it time to pump the brakes on the hype a little? Yes?

1341
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand fans. I mean, I guess I do,

1342
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: But like, you know, when Raoul Rosas Junior gets his

1343
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: first I think two fights were on pay per view

1344
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: cards and on main cards at that and I understand.

1345
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: I understand that, like they're trying to promote a kid

1346
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: who is valuable at the marketplace, potentially has a bright future.

1347
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: We don't really know, but you know, it's certainly something

1348
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: worth investigating, and everyone sort of cheers it. And I

1349
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: get it because it's like, oh, look at this young

1350
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: guy up against the odds. Isn't this a cool story?

1351
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: Whereas with bo it's like, here's not exactly silver spooned,

1352
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: but he's got all this credentials. He's the hot head

1353
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. So there's a bit of a

1354
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: difference there. But I'll just say this, I was a

1355
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: little bit. I was actually very underwhelmed with his performance.

1356
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: To your point, he performed fine. He did what he

1357
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: was supposed to do. He did what you thought he

1358
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: could do, and getting to the second round will prove

1359
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: a valuable experience to him. But I think it's time

1360
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: for him to earn it a little bit more. The

1361
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: matchmaking needs to be better, which is not his fault.

1362
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: They can only offer him who they're offering him. But

1363
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: I think he needs to get a better, tougher fight

1364
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: and on a bit of a smaller card. He could

1365
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: headline a fight night on the road something like that,

1366
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: give him a place where he can really both be

1367
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: in the spotlight but have that kind of trench warfare

1368
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: experience that lets you be still a centerpiece of the

1369
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: organization's future, but also kind of earn where you're supposed

1370
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: to be also kind of convince the fans that you

1371
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: have to be liked. I didn't like how he was

1372
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: slugging it out with Cody early. I didn't like you.

1373
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: He didn't have a name. At the end, Rogan had

1374
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 2: to go back two.

1375
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: And three times. Yeah, it was just and he felt off.

1376
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: I think the pressure got to him a little bit,

1377
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, for a guy who had been doing amazing

1378
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: things in wrestling, it looked to me like that wasn't

1379
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: had an effect. I am still high on him. When

1380
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: I say pumped the hype, I mean, oh, he could

1381
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: just fight for a title in the next year. No,

1382
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's possible.

1383
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: You got to see him be a Jack Hermanton type.

1384
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I want to I want a gritty

1385
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: veteran who's smart, who has some losses but had some

1386
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: great wins, who's tougher than expected, who has who has donunded,

1387
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: who's done five rounds. Yep, that's who I want to

1388
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: see him against. And you starting, by the way, but

1389
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: Nichol starts beating those guys, forget about it. He's going

1390
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: to be exactly everything you thought he was. But I

1391
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: think it's time. He has had the wind at his

1392
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: back in a few different ways. And it's fine. If

1393
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: he went out there and just blew the fucking doors

1394
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: off of Cody, he beat him soundly. He didn't, he

1395
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't impress.

1396
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: You gotta face adversity. He faced it, he adjusted, He's

1397
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: him finished the fight.

1398
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: Okay, you know how much get to your point. Did

1399
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: I undersell how much Cody would resist? I got that wrong. Yes,

1400
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: But the sloppiness of some of the striking early, which

1401
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,479
Speaker 1: I think even he would admit. I like bo Nikol,

1402
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: I've interviewed him a couple of times. He seems like

1403
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: a smart, nice guy, but even he was throwing things recklessly.

1404
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Fuck no, dude, no no, no, no, no no no.

1405
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: If you want Hype to really follow you the right way,

1406
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: we got to get rid of that shit. So that's

1407
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that I think really needs to

1408
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: be taken out of his game, taken out of his experience.

1409
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's not fighting Izzy next, that's what we're now.

1410
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna pump those breaks.

1411
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean you even saw, I mean, you know, hom's

1412
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: out your minds, like I'll fight anybody five times a

1413
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: day and you know, never fights anyone. But he was right,

1414
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: He's like, this is this is your king. You know,

1415
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: It's like I kind of get it now. You see,

1416
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: I got a question to ask live on air. We

1417
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: still have a lot to get to in minimal amounts

1418
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: of time. Share let me reset here. We have Jorge

1419
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: Masbadol schedule to join us at about thirty minutes. Do

1420
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: we want to talk a little Connor, and then come

1421
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: back to the prelim card a little bit later.

1422
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: Let's you topic number six, which was look an amazing

1423
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: night for the UFC, an absolutely incredible UFC three hundred

1424
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: and then at two fifteen am on the East Dana

1425
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: goes into the post by Prescott Paper. It is like,

1426
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: all right, I guess we're doing this. So here's the deal.

1427
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: June first, UFC three oh two, Newark, New Jersey. We

1428
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: have a main and comine event Islamaha cheviill defend the

1429
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: lightweight title, reportedly after Starry you can turn down the

1430
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: short turn round against Dustin Pourier. Comain event will be

1431
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland, a five round fight against Paulo Costa, and

1432
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: later that month, in the second pay per view of

1433
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: that calendar month, June twenty ninth, International Fight Week, Connor

1434
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: McGregor versus Michael Chandler is finally happening thirty six and

1435
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: thirty seven years old, and unfortunately with the Ultimate Fighter

1436
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: with the Roadhouse movie commitments, this has been dragged out Usada.

1437
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: This has been dragged out really long, Luke, how big

1438
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: though is Connor McGregor versus Michael Chandler on IFW still

1439
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

1440
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be as big as even

1441
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: the Seroni fight, which had an enormous I'm back kind

1442
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: of feel and I'm wholesome, Yes, I don't. Yeah, I'm not.

1443
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm the elder Statesman returning to the game. It won't

1444
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: have that, and it won't have the same kind of

1445
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: grudge match field that he had with Poorier, who he

1446
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: had disbanded, dismantled excuse me early in his career. Then,

1447
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: of course he had the second fight, which was not

1448
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: that great for him, and then the third one war

1449
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: of the injury is I mean, there are any number

1450
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: of issues that have played Connor. We have missed almost all,

1451
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: if not all, of the second half of his prime. Right,

1452
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: he'll be thirty six by the time that fight takes place,

1453
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: a right around it.

1454
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: So he definitely can't win the UFC welterweight tittle or

1455
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: anything else below that way.

1456
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: In all likelihood, probably not by the way, this fight

1457
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: will be at one seventy, not one fifty five, or

1458
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: anyone who's keeping tabs on that Connor's going to be big.

1459
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: He's always going to be big. This will not be

1460
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: one of his biggest fights, even though I still think

1461
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: it will do probably over a million buys. Here's what

1462
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to say. You just don't know how many

1463
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: more of these you're going to get. It is possible,

1464
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: certainly he goes in there and starches Mike Chandler like

1465
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: he did Eddie Alvarez. Would you be surprised? I would,

1466
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: And Michael Chandler fights risky and risky shit happens.

1467
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: I also wouldn't be surprised if Connor gasses out after

1468
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: having a round one and loses or just breaks his

1469
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: leg again, because it straight up honesty, it does not

1470
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: look at all like Connor has been living the spartan lifestyle.

1471
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: This is what I mean.

1472
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 5: It's like.

1473
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Between the time off and the injury and the questions

1474
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: about sobriety by the way, issues in the courtroom, as

1475
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: well as a whole sort of thing.

1476
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: And it's not just it's like, you know, you hear things.

1477
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: You hear things from people that are connected there. You

1478
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: see things in a lot of videos and the promotional

1479
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: stuff with Jake Jillenhall, and Connor's barely able to speak.

1480
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I think he can recapture magic. But this is the juncture.

1481
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: We're at the Connor McGregor junction, where is he still

1482
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: a big star? Of course, of course, will it sell

1483
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: over a pay perview a million pay per view buys?

1484
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: Probably so, right, But we're at this juncture where if

1485
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: he lost about again, it's not like you think, oh, well,

1486
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: the end is here for us. But what I am

1487
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: saying is as if he is going to make any

1488
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: kind of opportunity at something bigger, or he's always been

1489
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: about what escalation Every time Connor comes back, it's escalation, escalation,

1490
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: But that's not what he's facing here. This is more.

1491
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: This is more. Are you gonna lose this and go

1492
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 2: directly into the Nate fight to cast you out from trilogy?

1493
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: Or no, that's right, that's exactly right. Because he has

1494
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: limited time left he's got he's probably not gonna do

1495
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of these. If this is a brutal loss,

1496
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: it really puts into question how much more of this

1497
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: is even possible. Or he goes in there and does

1498
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: one punch, ko's him and dude, all of a sudden,

1499
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: the world is gonna be his oyster again. People will

1500
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: want to see him back, but not if he looks

1501
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: like a shell of himself.

1502
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: And he's got a even if he loses to Chandler,

1503
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: and then even if he won a loss against Nate,

1504
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: it's really important that he stays competitive and that he

1505
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: doesn't fall apart, whether that's injury wise or stamina wise

1506
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: or whatever, because it could be a BMF re match

1507
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: with Max Holloway, which would be another massive, huge fight. Yeah,

1508
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: so that's interesting. The alternate news there is three so

1509
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: three oh one in Brazil. Whether Poton gets on there

1510
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: or not, I'm sorry, Like the card's really bad.

1511
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: Yours safe five versus Patojia. It's not gonna sell any

1512
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: pay review buys.

1513
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: But it is a lay fight after WrestleMania the month

1514
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: after w W does we call it paybacklash? It's either

1515
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: called backlash or sometimes it's called payback and it like

1516
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: this retread thing. So three tozho one stinks in the

1517
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: fight nights around at stink, But how big is three

1518
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: oh two?

1519
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: Now?

1520
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: In your eyes? Newark, New Jersey, June first, same night,

1521
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: by the way, as mas Vidal versus Das the boxing rematch,

1522
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: but Dustin Poorier star power inserted in to the one

1523
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: big name lightweight as his story, and it's also the championship.

1524
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: I think Islam's a bigger star globally. I don't know

1525
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: about nationally, but globally, I think he's a bigger star.

1526
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: Now I said, you're inserting Dustin Poorie's star power into

1527
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: this paper.

1528
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: So here comes Poarier with this massive win over BSD

1529
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: that completely rejuvenates him. Not as much as what Max

1530
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: got against Justin Gaechee, but still pretty goddamn big, huge,

1531
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna put him into this title fight.

1532
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: I think he's overmatched. When they've talked about who has

1533
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: the better career, certainly Poarier has more a tier wins

1534
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: than what Markachef has. But Makachev obviously beat Charles Lavera.

1535
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: He's a full weight class champion that's eluded Dustin Pourier.

1536
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: It's an incredible story. It's the protege fabib who also

1537
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: choked out Dustin Poarier. It's probably poor at thirty five

1538
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: years of age, probably his last chance to really go

1539
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: for a title. At this point they'll be MF but

1540
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: let's say weight class tittle. Probably last chance to go

1541
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: for a weight class title. Huge stake. So you're getting

1542
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: this big infusion of star power. Islam is a star.

1543
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: Dustin Poorier certainly is a star as well. You get

1544
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: backstory there, you get protege stories, you get this is

1545
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: your last chance story, you get action fight story. Potentially,

1546
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: Islam is defensive, but you know Pori is going to

1547
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: bring it. I actually think it's going to make that

1548
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: pay per view enormous. Being in Newark is great for us,

1549
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: except for the part where we might get shanked in

1550
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: the parking lot. I don't know how.

1551
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going to the Newark Penn train station at

1552
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: all unless they're having horses run wild to get on

1553
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: the tracks or moose or whatever that was.

1554
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: I think it was.

1555
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bull one day, it was a bull.

1556
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: The next day it was uh, well yes these jokes.

1557
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: Colemane of Strickland versus Costa fight.

1558
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: I fucking love this fight. Don't you love this? It

1559
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: will be It will be a great action fight.

1560
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: It matters in terms of who's coming here and going

1561
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: in the title picture still is is the winner going

1562
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: to get you know, right back in there and another

1563
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: big fight and I think it pairs round it is

1564
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: five rounds and I think it pairs well with the

1565
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: main events, So I'm down with that. But here's the

1566
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: real question in this, because you're already predicting to Porio

1567
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: is going to be Max.

1568
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: Basically, I don't think anyone at one forty five can

1569
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: beat him right now? Right now?

1570
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: Does Dustin Poorier have it legitimate chance of pulling an

1571
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: upset here and having his own Max old guy moment?

1572
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: And Dustin's had a bunch of great old guy moments.

1573
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: He constantly reinvents himself, just like Max gets head kicked

1574
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: by gay Chie.

1575
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Islam has better grappling and wrestling than BSD and

1576
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: makes far fewer errors.

1577
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: That's the key, never makes error.

1578
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 1: It's like that's a Dustin Poorier is one of the

1579
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: hardest hitters ever at lightweight, make no mistake about it,

1580
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: and has proven me wrong at times, proven you wrong

1581
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: at times, prove me right at times. Two has been

1582
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: there and done that. But stated plainly, Islam Makachev is

1583
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for him. That doesn't mean it's impossible.

1584
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: But gun to my head, are you picking Dustin Parker?

1585
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: Oh but it would be a great moment? Oh my god,

1586
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean set the scene here. Here is a guy

1587
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: who has tried to win the title a couple of

1588
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: different times, didn't go his way, did get the interim title,

1589
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: does have stoppages over Eddie Alvarez, over Gates. He didn't

1590
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: go his way in a big way. He got the

1591
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: crap kicked out of him by Habib.

1592
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and also the Charles title fight too, And that's

1593
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: not there's no negative stamp against his great career, great fighters,

1594
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: like we built up this great story of twenty five

1595
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: minutes for the rest of your life and all that,

1596
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: and he's come five minutes to make life fair and

1597
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: he's come up empty. He'll get one more big chance.

1598
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: It's like the odds are probably going to shut him out.

1599
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the earlier.

1600
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: At this point, he's getting checks from Celsius, bud Light,

1601
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: and Samsung. I think life's become fair for him a

1602
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: little bit, which he heard. I'm just saying it's the

1603
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: one thing that has eluded him. When you think about

1604
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: your prize fighting career and what you want, like do

1605
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 1: you want legendary fights? Check? Do you want fan adoration?

1606
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: Maybe not du but comes with the thing. Check. Did

1607
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: you make some big money? He made some big money. Check?

1608
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: Did you beat some of the biggest names that you

1609
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: had in your generation. Did you fight the toughest guys?

1610
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: Fucking check? Were you a world champion? Not yet. That's

1611
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: the last piece of the puzzle here. It's just the matchup.

1612
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: He has a fucking to not impossible. I mean, how many, dude,

1613
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: how many times we really have to constantly remind ourselves that,

1614
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 2: no matter what we think, and whenever there's a rare,

1615
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: sort of somewhat lopsided title fight because their star power involved, really,

1616
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: for me it was newness. Panya just reminded me that, like,

1617
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: anything is possible on any given night. Back to UFC

1618
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: three hundre, because there's so many storylines.

1619
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: You got to go rapid fire on the prelim card.

1620
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: I want to talk just the thing that stood out

1621
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: to me the most eerie Prahotzka.

1622
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: Just I was watching that fight with Othello and he's like, dude,

1623
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna lose. He's getting tagged.

1624
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on, yeah, hold on. I love by

1625
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: the way that he got pissed off about that, you're

1626
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: not a samurai think so that fueled him. I love

1627
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 2: the weird fan videos of him outside the arena the

1628
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 2: night before, which is really great. I mean, you know,

1629
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: I understand what he's doing visually, like that's his process

1630
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: and I love hearing him in the postfight press conference.

1631
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: Have to sort of break it down and say, I'm

1632
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: not a creeper, guys, this is but Luke, he went

1633
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: in there against rackets too. Let's put a lot of respect.

1634
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: After two years off in a serious injury. In that

1635
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: first round he looked like a million bucks. He's piecing

1636
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 2: Yearie up. But this is what year he does. He

1637
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: lures you into an absolute war and then has better

1638
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: firepower and can outlast it. Dude, he took ridiculous shots

1639
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: and just just shook his head.

1640
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: And here's the weird part. Alexander Rakitch looked awesome for

1641
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: long stretches of the fight.

1642
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: My point is Prohots could con beat anyone at any

1643
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: given night. If if he gets back into a Poeton rematch,

1644
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: which I'm sure UFC would want for the potential action

1645
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: and all that, like, it wouldn't be wrong if you

1646
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: favored him as so even if.

1647
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 1: I'll say this, when Yeary's chin goes, he's in trouble.

1648
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: Sure he's in trouble, but right now his durability is insane.

1649
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: His commitment is insane. He's a good athlete too, obviously, and.

1650
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: That was due that win.

1651
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: This is what I mean about you know why those

1652
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: wins all felt so good in the time that they

1653
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: had them. Everyone's win was like defining of their personality. Yes,

1654
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: Max's win was here's Yeeri where he's getting just fucking

1655
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: bombed on and he finds a way to come back.

1656
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: I know Tomcano too, money Moyicano had the same type

1657
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: of win underdog.

1658
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: Let's almost getting Jayleen Turner just let him recover all

1659
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: time back, all time UFC mistake.

1660
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Leon, let don bebe super Bowl at that time

1661
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: in Pasadena reminded me of that, right, It's just sort

1662
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: of like those damn moments when you probably could have

1663
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: got it. I don't know if he finishes him. Do

1664
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: you automatically think that he blew a finish?

1665
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: I get that he Do you think he blew a finish?

1666
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: Yes, But dude, Mocano was such a great personality. He

1667
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: delivered the promo that you expect afterwards. I want to

1668
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: see him in big ass BMF fighter. Not everybody can

1669
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: fight with the BMFT, but you get my point. I

1670
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: want to see him in fun colorful fights. I know

1671
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: that moy Kano can also climb the ladder and get

1672
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: into contention, but we need more of him on television. Look,

1673
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: that's like, seriously break that personality out Al.

1674
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterling very quickly. I don't think. Here's my take.

1675
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he convinced UFC matchmakers to give him

1676
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: a title shot. No, no, there's no conversation. But put away,

1677
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: how impressive you thought it was? I thought it was

1678
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: super impressive. I agreed doing that to Calvin Cator. Even

1679
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: your guy who was Abe Lincoln from Augustan Zabit, Yes,

1680
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: even Zabit couldn't do that, and Al Jamaine Sterling did.

1681
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: Al Jamaine Sterling didn't have the kind of performance that

1682
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: made fans or matchmakers want to fast track him to

1683
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 1: the front. But did it show he can compete with

1684
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: the elite of this division at least on his terms?

1685
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: One thousand percent one thousand percent. He might be a

1686
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: tougher fight for Taporia in certain ways than Josh Emmitt.

1687
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: We Josh Emmitt got kind of cleaned out too.

1688
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 2: But I will be after that Bryce Mitchell knockout right,

1689
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: So again, isn't he isn't Emmett back on a hot

1690
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: streak after.

1691
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: That, but you know, he got washed by Toporia. I'm

1692
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: just saying I think he's going to be a surprisingly

1693
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: tricky matchup in this way class. It's just a question

1694
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: of how many hills he has to climb.

1695
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, not gonna be super exciting, but never really has

1696
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: It's always matchup dependent. But I was happy for him

1697
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: that he got the win. And I mean, you know

1698
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: Dago a little bit. I mean, there's so many great stories.

1699
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: Last question, last question on the prelims, but more generally,

1700
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: the three hundred K bonus. Uh, nice to see people

1701
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: get it. And I'm sure there were some backstage bonus

1702
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: name talking about going to take care of, for example,

1703
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: Bobby Green and Jim Miller, who did not get the

1704
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: official bonus, but I'm sure got something in the end.

1705
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't see any evidence that actually changed the way

1706
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 1: that anybody fought.

1707
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 2: I disagree, even though even though I know you're gonna say, well,

1708
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: they give me the exact example. I just felt in

1709
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: general that mixed with the heightened sort of tension of

1710
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: it being three hundred and a historic anniversary card, and

1711
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: by the way that crowd was on fire, I regret

1712
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: not being there. I was there the night before ran

1713
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: I flew into Vegas for eleven hours and turned it

1714
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: around on a red eye to cover from home. Now

1715
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I should have forced my way in just

1716
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: to feel that Max moment there.

1717
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: It was absolutely incredible.

1718
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: But no, I've lost track of round.

1719
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, listen, did Max and Justin fight

1720
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: their heart out? No question? No? Yeah? Sorry, have done

1721
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: that anyway, Jim, I don't know.

1722
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: I saw people, Bobby Green, I saw people absolutely commit

1723
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 2: to the idea that look, this is life changing money.

1724
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: This is like retirement home.

1725
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: This is like, I don't like any evidence. I saw

1726
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: a guy like, if you were on this car, chances

1727
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: are you were in certain depending on your style, you

1728
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: were already in action. Fight this idea that like, oh,

1729
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: these guys, I've never fought this way. They've all thought

1730
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: this way before.

1731
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: Okay, but across the board, it brought everybody from I'm

1732
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 2: not saying.

1733
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: Extra money is bad.

1734
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Extra money percent raised in terms of their franticness.

1735
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: I think you're reading into something that just didn't happen.

1736
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying extra money is bad. I'm saying, did

1737
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: extra money noticeably transformed fights? I don't think you.

1738
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 2: Can say yes that feeling you're saying, it's just the

1739
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: three hundred. I'm caught up in the drug of.

1740
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: Three tough fights. I mean, there's guys that are in

1741
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: tough fights, like but do you really believe that? Like

1742
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: if the bonuses were still fifty that and the fight

1743
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: had played out just as it had that, Max wouldn't

1744
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: have pointed to the floor. He already did it against

1745
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: Lamas he has big wave of us. He would have

1746
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:36,799
Speaker 1: done that shit.

1747
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: No matter what.

1748
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: It's just he should have been rewarded for whatever he did.

1749
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: All right, BC, you want to talk a little Haney

1750
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 1: Garcia to do it? One more reminder twelve fifteen, excuse me,

1751
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: twelve thirty. We're supposed to be joined by Jorge mass

1752
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: but I will see how that goes. Right now, BC,

1753
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: it is Hany Garcia fight week.

1754
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 5: It is, it is.

1755
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: It is first question to you help us out here,

1756
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: boxing guy. Isn't the biggest storyline heading into this fight

1757
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,879
Speaker 1: the mental health or life thereof of Ryan Garcia?

1758
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 3: It is?

1759
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: It is.

1760
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: And if you've been following the Ryan Garcia social media

1761
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: like you was there, saw I saw him as I

1762
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: hosted the MOSVID al DS press conference on Friday in Vegas,

1763
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: and Ryan's brother is on the undercard against the Sun

1764
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: of Fernando Vargas and there's like a blood warn it

1765
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: got interesting. Ryan comes up and he's talking trash and

1766
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 2: all that. I could easily say, Man, he looked like

1767
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: he was partying and he looked crazy. But then again,

1768
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: he comes live on Instagram later and says, everybody thinks

1769
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 2: I'm drinking, but I'm not. I'm fooling you. So here's

1770
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: the deal. I don't actually know what percentage of Ryan

1771
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: Garcia's last three months is actively trying to troll on

1772
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 2: fool people or legitimate mental health activation or substance abuse

1773
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: or whatever. Either way, I don't think he's accomplished anything

1774
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: close to now. Look what the proof will be in

1775
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: the pudding, as Floyd always says, when the pay per

1776
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 2: view numbers, and how big this fight will be to

1777
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 2: his own pay per view Saturday Barclay Center. It's a

1778
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: big deal, two young stars. But I just feel like

1779
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: Ryan's like tarnished his reputation in major ways with with

1780
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: a lot of this behavior. I don't actually know how

1781
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: much of it is in act. I do think he's

1782
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: trying to at the very least full Haney and fool

1783
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 2: the public into the idea that he's not taking this seriously.

1784
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: But I think physically you can see it seems. I

1785
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: assume he is with Derek, with Derek James as a trainer,

1786
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: but he's switching trainers left and right like crazy.

1787
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: We don't really know.

1788
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: To me, it comes down to this, if you're gonna

1789
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: watch this fight, and I think you have to, you

1790
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: have to see what's gonna happen here. And it's two big,

1791
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: great stars and it could be fun. Even though we're

1792
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 2: all saying, look, if Ryan is not where he should

1793
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: be mentally, man, maybe Hani picks him apart. How the

1794
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: real question might not be Luke, is he mentally health

1795
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 2: and healthy enough? Because they did do tests, they did

1796
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: their diligence. His mental health has been played up in

1797
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: the Dezonned pre fight documentary series in terms, but Ryan

1798
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: in that series is saying, guys, I'm playing you. I'm

1799
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: playing you. Okay, Well, let's put that mental health aside

1800
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 2: and basically use it to.

1801
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: Make my next point.

1802
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: Can this image he's giving of recklessness play into the

1803
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: ring and make him as dangerous as possible? Early in

1804
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 2: the fight until Haney inevitably figures out and most likely

1805
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: finishes him with a perfectly placed counter shot. Can Ryan Garcia,

1806
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: who in six amateur fights between the ages of nine

1807
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: and sixteen, does have three victories over Haney? Obviously they're

1808
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: at different ages. Who knows, right, it's an amateur fight?

1809
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: Three what one minute? Two minute? One minute rounds? I

1810
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 2: mean it's it's like, it's so.

1811
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: Different obvious age they thought, I don't think it's no.

1812
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: And Haney has obviously escalated to a top five pound

1813
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: for pound since then. But Luke Ryan Garcia is dangerous.

1814
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: He's he has power from his speed. His speed is dynamic.

1815
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: If you've seen the videos of him warming up showcasing

1816
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: that speed, I mean, it's legit. Can he be more

1817
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: reckless and dangerous than he tried to be in the

1818
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: early rounds against Tank Davis, which I think he was

1819
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: playing a little bit more chess. And if he is,

1820
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: is he a live dog in this fight? Because I

1821
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: think we're past the mental health question to a degree

1822
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: that all powers that be checked into it and they're

1823
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: happy with what.

1824
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: No, I can't they looked at it like maybe he's

1825
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: just stupid. I don't know.

1826
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: See I wanted to ask you that in a loose way,

1827
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 2: like is this is he miscalculated this so badly?

1828
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: Not know how to? I mean understand who Devin Haney

1829
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: is at this point, right, I was not down on

1830
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: Devin Haney, but I wasn't super convinced about him. I

1831
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: needed to see more evidence. And what I have seen

1832
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: is not just success, but the meticulous and very strategic planning,

1833
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: the intentionality that he and his father had with a

1834
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: plan that was in place years ago. I mean, you

1835
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: don't just get to where he's going by like, oh,

1836
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: you show up and just win. No, you have to

1837
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: like really think about every single move you have to make.

1838
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 1: What's the right fight, what's the right time, under what conditions?

1839
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: How do I have to train? This is a guy

1840
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: who's got people watching tape for him, who doesn't drink,

1841
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: who doesn't smoke, who doesn't stay out late or doesn't

1842
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: do these things, who lives but relatively speaking, certainly a

1843
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: much more disciplined, monastic kind of life. Brawl a boxer,

1844
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: box a brawler, and so maybe by making it crazy

1845
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: it's using some of that speed and power. He can

1846
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: cause some problems early. He is going to leave too

1847
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: many openings, and that weird shoulder role that he does,

1848
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: and the strategic ever you just it's hard for me

1849
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: to believe. Does Ryan have gifts that are dangerous that

1850
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: you cannot look the other way on? No question? But

1851
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: does he seem to you? I'm not saying pure is

1852
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: he okay? I'm saying does he seem competitively in the

1853
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: right frame of mind to deal with someone who is

1854
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: so single task focused, who is so cross your t's

1855
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: and dot your eyes, who is so careful yet so diligent.

1856
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't think he is to win a decision. No,

1857
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: But here's what I want to say about the Ryan

1858
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: character that he seems to be playing. And obviously there

1859
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: seems to be some elements of real in here. And

1860
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: I don't know where he's at mentally, But did you

1861
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: say this? I did talk through like not off camera,

1862
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: and he's out of control and he's showing his abs,

1863
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: and you know, he's trying to show everybody in a

1864
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: way what we're saying that like, Look, I'm fooled, y'all.

1865
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: I got you guys to focus on the fight. But Luke,

1866
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: you could argue that his only real chance is to

1867
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: lean exclusively on his positives, which is to come out

1868
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: guns blazing, to basically say I've got four or five

1869
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: rounds to hurt Hani and try to turn this fight

1870
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: in my direction. You could argue, Luke, tell me if

1871
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: I'm crazy on this that if this is a play,

1872
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it's a good troll job, I'm

1873
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: saying it's probably negative. It probably hurts the pay per

1874
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: view numbers at the end of the day in some

1875
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: weird ways because people don't think he has a chance.

1876
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: But isn't he potentially playing into his only real chance,

1877
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 2: like one hundred one thousand percent basically saying my only

1878
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: real chance is my physicality, my speed, and when the

1879
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: power that comes from that and the fact that I'm

1880
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: big and long and i can just attack. He's kind

1881
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: of setting that stage perfectly in that regard with this

1882
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: crazy mindset. Like the only weakness Hainy has is that

1883
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 2: one moment against Jorgye Lenaris when he got rocked by

1884
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: a shot and then basically circled away and held for

1885
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: the last few rounds and kind of coasted to a victory.

1886
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 2: Since then, Hany's never really looked vulnerable, and he's been

1887
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: almost perfect. Can Ryan find that one spot in the

1888
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: death start Luke? I think at the very least his

1889
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: he seems to be going all in to give him

1890
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: that one chance. Meaning when Ryan knocked out Luke Campbell,

1891
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: the biggest and best win of his career, right got

1892
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: off off the canvas and beat a gold medalist in

1893
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: the Olympics and a true title contender who never got

1894
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: over the hump as a pro. But we said, look,

1895
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 2: he might. He's not perfect a lot, there's a lot

1896
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 2: of potential flaws that'll get him. But he might be

1897
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: like terrible Terry Norris, who by the way, went to

1898
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and was an all time great fighter,

1899
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: but had that one big weakness that chin, and basically

1900
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: just was a gun slinger. Good boxer of course, but

1901
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 2: went in there to try to get you before you

1902
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 2: get him. Isn't that Ryan Garcia's best chance and maybe

1903
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: only chance to win this?

1904
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, so the answer is yes,

1905
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: But pitching it back to you, kay, yes, yes is

1906
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: the answer. But my question would be, okay, but how

1907
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: it's his best chance, it's.

1908
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: Still it's his only chance, So I'm saying it's it's

1909
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,480
Speaker 2: still highly improbable.

1910
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the one thing I'll say, Tank Davis

1911
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit for actually how strategic and thoughtful

1912
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: and what a careful decision maker he is. Everyone talks

1913
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: about his power, which is legit, but that's not the

1914
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: only story about him. Devin Haney doesn't have that. He

1915
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: doesn't have Tank's power, but he's got a lot of

1916
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 1: that boxing ability, if not more, that's for debate, but

1917
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: certainly he's on par if not an excess of it.

1918
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: Ryan can't break that guy down. He just has to

1919
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: get lucky. You're not going to make Devin Handy make mistakes.

1920
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: He might make one and then you can take advantage

1921
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: of it. He's not going to make them for a

1922
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: year to get and Garcia is not that guy. So

1923
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: you might be say, oh, it's his best it's his

1924
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: only chance. And I'm still saying even if that's true,

1925
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: it's still exceedingly unlikely for.

1926
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: Sure, but he's got to lean into his offensive strengths

1927
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: and go after Handy. I don't mean recklessly, but I

1928
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: mean persistent. Behind that quick Jeb, try to throw that

1929
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: left hook he doesn't see coming, and put that pressure.

1930
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: It's really his only chance. He's not gonna out box

1931
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: him over twelve.

1932
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: And I think when you look back down in his

1933
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: performance against Tank, he kind of pressed on the gas

1934
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: at the wrong times, did it too sloppily, and then

1935
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 2: once he got knocked down by Tank, the rest of

1936
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 2: the time he's just sort of, you know, scared and

1937
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: circling away. There can't be any of that if he's

1938
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: going to play the role of this crazy guy that's

1939
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: trying to fool all of us, and I think he

1940
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 2: has to play that role in the ring too, That's

1941
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: all I'm saying that. And if he's gonna do that,

1942
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: and if this is his only chance, and maybe he

1943
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: recognizes that, that's fine. But with the whole question of

1944
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 2: not knowing exactly where he's at and how much of

1945
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: this is an act or it isn't, I don't know, Like,

1946
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to happen, that him

1947
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: and Derek James are working on ironing out all of

1948
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: the technical problems in his game, and that he's gonna

1949
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: come out behind his jab and box from distance and

1950
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: suddenly surprises, No, that's not gonna happen, right, So he's

1951
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: got to come out there and be offensive and go

1952
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: after him early in that and in that sense not

1953
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: likely that he gets the job done. But I still

1954
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: need to see it, Luke, I still need to see

1955
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: it because I don't know where Ryan Garcia is going

1956
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: to go from it. If it's back to back, big knockout,

1957
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: lots of good.

1958
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: Fact, I was just gonna ask back to back stoppages,

1959
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: what happens? We're not back to back because I think

1960
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: he tank fighter.

1961
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It's like, I know he's trying to

1962
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 2: fool us, and he is in the great shape, and

1963
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: he is putting in the time supposedly in there, but

1964
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: he's all over social media so aggressively and trying to

1965
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: lead people in every other way. Is he really studying

1966
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: the opponent? Is he really like living it mentally where

1967
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: he needs to be? Luke, I feel like he's got

1968
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: one I feel like he's got one foot out of

1969
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: the door already in this sport. I feel like he's

1970
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: obsessed with the influence scene. He's obsessed with trying to

1971
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: lure the Paul Brothers into some trash talk laure O'Malley.

1972
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't think Ryan Garcia wants to be here long run.

1973
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: In the long run, I think that's why he looked

1974
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: at the options and said, Okay, let's do Hainy. Now,

1975
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 2: let's just rush into it. I don't think if he

1976
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: gets knocked out brutally, I don't even think it's like, Okay,

1977
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: well now he's American and he's still going to want

1978
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: to do big fights whatever. Like, I question what Roady's

1979
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: going to go down after that, because I don't think

1980
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: he really wants this. And I think maybe in some degree,

1981
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: even though I'm trying to talk myself into the idea

1982
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: that maybe he's playing this character because it leads into

1983
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: his best and only chance to be the crazy offensive

1984
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 2: force early in that fight, maybe he also knows that

1985
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the true discipline to do this and

1986
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: to truly get through the holes in his game, And

1987
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: maybe this is his way of making a lot of

1988
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: money and a lot of noise and then transitioning that

1989
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: star into something else he's got. You know, he's trying

1990
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 2: to sing, he's trying to act, he's trying.

1991
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: To The tickets for this fight are not selling well.

1992
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how it will do on pay per view,

1993
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: probably pretty well. This is what I was thinking about.

1994
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Tell me if you think I'm onto something here. On

1995
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: the one hand, Ryan is making a lot of headlines

1996
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: with his behavior and that is attracting some attention, But

1997
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's not attracting the same kind

1998
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: of attention that he had with Tank, where there was

1999
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: like this aspirational, this kid might do it. This is

2000
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: more like, oh, he might self distrust this is xpot

2001
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of watching, I'm kind of watching through my

2002
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: fingers a little bit with his am I onto something

2003
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: with this? This is go home?

2004
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: He and pro wrestling, this would be like your your

2005
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 2: too cringe, You're too much like just go away. Yeah,

2006
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 2: he's getting that response. That's why I'm saying this is

2007
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: more of a negative to his brand and the potential

2008
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 2: pay per view sales. In my opinion, that he's acting

2009
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: this way because at least in the Tank one, in

2010
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: the build to that, he was leaning on the idea

2011
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm unbeaten, I'm this star, I'm not afraid of this challenge.

2012
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go after I'm daring to be great, And

2013
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: now it feels like he's just daring to potentially cash

2014
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: himself out unless he has really put his This is

2015
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: the greatest troll job ever and he's gonna come out

2016
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: there and be better than he ever has. Obviously give

2017
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: him that chance. I can't wait to see this fight, Luke.

2018
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: I'm kind of regretting I'm not going to be there

2019
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 2: in person, but because I think it's going to be

2020
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: a spectacle. And I do think Devin Haney wants to

2021
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: again despite all this Ryan craziness. He's going to use

2022
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Ryan's star power to rub up against him, probably going

2023
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: to get the win. And now you can go from

2024
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: Walmachenko to Regis program at one forty and getting a title.

2025
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia Boutsennis just got signed a match room under

2026
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: the disone.

2027
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: Let's let's say let's say Hanni gets a great win

2028
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: similar to Tank. Whatever that means, what ends up happening

2029
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: to Devin Haney the rest of twenty twenty four.

2030
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's going to rush into a Boutsenna's fight.

2031
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: There's no money there necessarily forty seven, right, You're gonna

2032
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: have to build to that.

2033
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Hani.

2034
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 2: I think we'll eventually go to welterwait and I think

2035
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: will be a force there.

2036
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh I do, I do.

2037
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: I see the body, I see the ability to filch

2038
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 2: the shielder in body, the long arms, but I think

2039
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 2: there's enough fun names at one forty. The whole idea

2040
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: of him, can he ever get Tank into some type

2041
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: of catchway fighter. Will Tank come up to one forty

2042
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: of him? If if haney star gets big enough, well,

2043
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: if he goes out there and knocks out Ryan Garcia

2044
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: after the build that we have had here, his star

2045
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: will get even higher. I think you look at Subrial Matias,

2046
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: who has a belt, you look at a lot of

2047
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: the big names that we're at thirty five moving up,

2048
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: I think he'd be more likely to fight a Shaker

2049
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: Stevenson who's smaller than he would fighting a Tennis who

2050
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: is bigger and arguably just as or more dynamic than Haney.

2051
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: So I just think either way, Hane's going to be

2052
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 2: in a great spot. And remember he signs very short

2053
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: contracts with promoters and networks, and he's always ready to

2054
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 2: bowl for the big advantage. I'd love to see him

2055
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: against Tank, So I'd love to see him stay at

2056
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: the lower way classes as much as possible, and then

2057
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: knowing in his thirties he can be a big money

2058
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: welterway dude.

2059
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: Him versus Tank would be absolutely electric magic.

2060
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: It'd be absolutely fantastic.

2061
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: And then so so wait you live in Connecticut, why

2062
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: don't you going too? Because you're gonna be on tour

2063
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: this whole week.

2064
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will be on. I will be hosting the

2065
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: three remaining dates of the Baddest Tour Diz versus Model.

2066
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 1: So here it is.

2067
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna fight June first the Forum in Englewood on

2068
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: pay per view, and the tour will continue. We did

2069
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 2: Friday in Las Vegas, Tuesday night in Times Square at

2070
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: the Palladium, Wednesday in Miami outside and then concluding Friday

2071
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and uh Miami to La La.

2072
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: Back to Hartford flight.

2073
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: Those are long flights, Yeah, I mean I flew from

2074
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 2: vacation home, flew the next morning to Vegas, got in

2075
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: the afternoon, hosted that guy in the Red Eye home,

2076
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 2: slept all day, covered three hundred and UFC three hundred

2077
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: until went to bed at four something am. Prash yesterday,

2078
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: was on the train at four forty five am this morning,

2079
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: and here we go, Luk, So all right it.

2080
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Is, I'll take us in.

2081
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: He's here, all right, Our guest is here.

2082
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: You know him, right?

2083
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 5: You know him?

2084
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Miami's own the original Baddest motherfucker or hey, masvidoal in

2085
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 2: the house. June first, the rematch that's five years in

2086
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: the making against Nate Diaz, this time Luke Thomas in

2087
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: a boxing ring. We welcome in Jorge Masvidal Orgy. The

2088
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: Baddest Tour continues this week. Thank you so much for

2089
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: joining us. Let's start right there. Man, you fought Nate

2090
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: Diaz UFC two forty four BMF title, now a boxing rematch.

2091
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 2: Did you always know that you were going to get

2092
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: that second chance against Nate?

2093
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 3: I'm not getting a chance.

2094
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe like my change, you mean, like the murderers

2095
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 5: as but uh shit, I always wanted to fight, you know,

2096
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 5: just it wasn't gonna happen immediately after because I get

2097
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 5: offered the world title fight, you know, that's what it

2098
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 5: chases since I joined the sport. And then after that

2099
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 5: I get out for the number one I mean, I

2100
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 5: get off to fight for the title again, and then

2101
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 5: doing that, Nate's not really fighting during that time when

2102
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 5: his team's not really want to co operate. So I

2103
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 5: go and fight the number one guy in the world

2104
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 5: after that, and then after I don't win the pot,

2105
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 5: the number four guy in the world Snake was out

2106
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 5: of the UNFC, so my point, my view was like

2107
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna take the biggest and best fights that

2108
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 5: I can. You know, the Snake fit will happened at

2109
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 5: some point, you know. But I said that the fight

2110
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 5: would happened, and now it's happening, you.

2111
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: Know, happening in the boxing ring June first. We got

2112
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 2: a lot more to get to that. But when you

2113
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 2: get the original BMF right here, and we're coming off

2114
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 2: of UFC three hundred or hey, and you see what

2115
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Max Holloway did to Justin Gatchee, I got to get

2116
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 2: your immediate reaction from one BMF to another here of

2117
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 2: what went down Saturday.

2118
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 5: Man, from start to finish, from topped about maybe the

2119
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 5: greatest card that I've been a part of. Lives like

2120
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 5: that I've had to see live. You know, Holy smokes man.

2121
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 5: I I didn't pay for my tickets, but I gladly

2122
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 5: would have. You know what I'm saying. From the start

2123
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 5: to finish was just amazing. Every performance, all the fights

2124
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 5: were just spectacular. I mean, there's so many fights that

2125
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 5: could have just been a main event all of its

2126
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 5: own on a huge show.

2127
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 3: It's crazy how much great fight taken.

2128
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 5: That's in One night Violence Action sweet signs that Mma

2129
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 5: is as well.

2130
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Everything about that I was amazing.

2131
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 5: Then you talk about the Max Holloway fight, Wow, I

2132
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 5: mean both of them are going at it. Gage had

2133
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 5: a lot of overstand the Obviously in my scorecard, I

2134
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 5: had Max in it, so he didn't have to do

2135
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 5: the hate ten seconds less left. Let's gamble it up,

2136
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 5: you know. And I've always stopped before the belt. Whether

2137
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 5: he would have won it or not, Max is one

2138
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 5: of the badest motherfucker did ever lived. You know, had

2139
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 5: he lost that night, by whatever outcome, I still would

2140
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 5: have been like, that's one bad motherfucker. The way he

2141
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 5: carries him something inside the ring and outside of the ring,

2142
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 5: the way he competes.

2143
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 3: I think he's always.

2144
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 5: Been everybody's favorite fighter and fighters favorite fighters as well.

2145
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 3: So number of props to Max, man, because that's the

2146
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 3: way you do it.

2147
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 5: That's the only way that being titles gotta go, man,

2148
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 5: somebody's got to go out fold and you gotta be

2149
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 5: even it all on the line every fucking time you

2150
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 5: step in there for that belt, you know. And I'm

2151
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 5: gonna be a methis know for having the fastest knockout.

2152
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 5: I think somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Max has

2153
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 5: like the latest closest to the hell and the knockout.

2154
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 5: That's gotta be the fucking craziest. Uh.

2155
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what he would call it, but that's

2156
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: just amazing, brother, that's fucking a major.

2157
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Or Hey, we have a situation where Gaetschie got put

2158
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 1: out cold. Someone asked me this. I don't know the answer,

2159
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Maybe you do. The question was, is justin Getche gonna

2160
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: be the same? What do you think.

2161
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 5: Just as one of these guys just keeps coming back

2162
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 5: like he's lost a couple of stoppages before. I think

2163
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 5: how many times has he's been finishing the UFC Handful

2164
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 5: d got him one, Dustin definitely got him once, and

2165
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 5: I know there's other finishes that I'm not quite remembering

2166
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 5: right now. So usually when every guy that gets knocked

2167
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 5: especially the first time, I go, man, so he's interesting

2168
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 5: to see him come back and how they're gonna come back,

2169
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 5: you know.

2170
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 3: But in this one in particular, I just don't know.

2171
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 5: Because Gage always just finds a way to come back

2172
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 5: and put on great shows and keep fucking winning.

2173
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 3: But this one was bad. His he was out I

2174
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 3: was there live.

2175
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 5: He was out for a good amount of time, maybe

2176
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 5: like two minutes, you know, and then when he's good

2177
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 5: when they set him up, still like visibly hurt.

2178
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 3: So I hope he makes a fool recovery, comes back

2179
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 3: to sport strong and never. But you just don't know

2180
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 3: when you take a knockout like that, you know, especially

2181
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 3: the whole fight. It wasn't just that. It was like

2182
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 3: a lot of abiet on both of their bodies.

2183
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 5: I thought Gaigee got the short end of the stick,

2184
01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 5: was taking more abuse a while, and his nose two

2185
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 5: mans just round one with that spinny kick looked like

2186
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 5: it was stored. So that's another thing that you gotta

2187
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 5: take into consideration. This fight might have took a lot

2188
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 5: of years out of GATESMN.

2189
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: Hell of a fight indeed. Are in terms of the

2190
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: return of Conn mcgregord, which they announced for UFC three

2191
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: zero three is gonna be against Michael Chandler, what are

2192
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: your expectations or hey, do you think he looks like

2193
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: the guy from at any point from earlier in his

2194
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: career or at age thirty five basically thirty six at

2195
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: this point and still trying to fight MMA, It might

2196
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 1: be curtains for him.

2197
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 5: I I care about today drug test, that motherfucker. That's it,

2198
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 5: you know, the support clean motherfucker's getting tested and that's it, bro.

2199
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 5: And other than that, we won't know to that date.

2200
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 5: You know, physically you can look the way aesthetically you

2201
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 5: could have ads and your shoulders could be popping down

2202
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 5: and your chaps could be by your ear. But bite

2203
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 5: wise you really don't need shit, you know. So I

2204
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 5: just I don't know who's who's gonna step in that

2205
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 5: cage that day.

2206
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 2: Or Hey, we saw you more or less retire after

2207
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: your fight against Burns in Miami, and now this brings

2208
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: you out of it for June first, when we're going

2209
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: to see you the rematch with Nadez, this time in

2210
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: the pro boxing ring fan Meo pay per view. What

2211
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 2: was that process for you and saying I'm not done yet,

2212
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,480
Speaker 2: There's more left in this tank. You've had a successful

2213
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: run with your game Bread promotion, whether you're doing boxing

2214
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 2: bare knuckle MMA, which has.

2215
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: Gotten a lot of exposure of late.

2216
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 2: Is it easy to turn that light switch back on

2217
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 2: when the phone call came in and put the gloves

2218
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 2: on this time in the boxing.

2219
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: Ring, stalk about it my camera man's smoking practice and

2220
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 3: ship say the question, and.

2221
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: You know what was that process internally of making the

2222
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 2: decision to come out of retirement and this time going

2223
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 2: back into pro boxing? You where you turn pro back

2224
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 2: in two thousand and five.

2225
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 5: Man one, I can't go out with an l definitely,

2226
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 5: though it's a different sporting and stuff. I just felt

2227
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 5: like I had to get the competitive move team. I

2228
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 5: always wanted a box. I obviously think that I was

2229
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 5: tied to the U S, but the UC granted me

2230
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 5: this in this great opportunity came manches to make more

2231
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 5: money and provide for me and my family to fight

2232
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 5: another legend in the sport that's done a mating thing

2233
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 5: in the sport.

2234
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 3: So I definitely want to go down.

2235
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 5: And then there we have the little history that you know,

2236
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 5: he thinks in his own head and keeps only one

2237
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 5: thinking that the fight was called on justly. Okay, let's

2238
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 5: do it. I'm gonna silence see then you bro, there'll

2239
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 5: be no questions about it. And Nate's always been one

2240
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 5: of these guys how that is having the best hands

2241
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 5: in the ub See, I've always felt I got the

2242
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 5: best hands in the ub C bar none so let's

2243
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 5: go find out.

2244
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Let's prove it.

2245
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned that you asked UFC for permission.

2246
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 2: I believe there's a pay per view card that same night.

2247
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Is it?

2248
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: Is it all kosher the way this is going to

2249
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: work out with June first?

2250
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I saw coach. They have to give me

2251
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 5: the permission first. They got to give me the green

2252
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 5: light or nothing could happen. You know, the truth fight fans,

2253
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 5: as you guys know, be watching both you know, bam

2254
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 5: bam tuning in, have the two DV split up, and you.

2255
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 3: Know, so there's gonna be a great fucking night of combat.

2256
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Man, will we look back or hey at UFC two

2257
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 2: forty four in the first chapter in this rav between

2258
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 2: the two of you and the BMF title and such

2259
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 2: a big deal at that point. When you look back,

2260
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 2: how were you able to handle Nate the way that

2261
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 2: you were? Because while that fight did have the storyline

2262
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 2: of let's say, you know, the early stoppage and all

2263
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 2: that you rewatched those three rounds you handled him, how

2264
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 2: were you able to do that with that ease?

2265
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 3: I dropped him once per round, so definitely, you know

2266
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 3: it was it was very favorable for me.

2267
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 5: I think a lot of it was just the homework

2268
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 5: I was able to do on Nate and see weaknesses

2269
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 5: that he had that that I'm not bad at. You know,

2270
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 5: that I'm actually decent at. I can kick, you know,

2271
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,839
Speaker 5: I can knee all right, and I got decent elbows,

2272
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 5: you know. And Nate kind of stayed always in this

2273
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 5: non evolution of I'm just gonna box in jiu jitsu.

2274
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 3: Cool. Everything you don't do, I'm gonna use it against you.

2275
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 5: So I didn't give him to take that not the

2276
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 5: best wrestler, and that's why I was able to hurt

2277
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 5: his body and the foots of the faces would dropped

2278
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 5: him on his aster the first one, you know, to

2279
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 5: his benefit in boxing, I can't do them things. So

2280
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 5: he's got some things going from at least. But that

2281
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 5: body showed the week, got the same body that he

2282
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 5: had back then. So I'm going to attack that body,

2283
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 5: living ship out of his body, you know. And uh

2284
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 5: and the first one, man, I just it was my moment.

2285
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 5: Was wasn't no stopping that. It was in great shape,

2286
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 5: didn't have no no real injuries going into that fight.

2287
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 5: So I just have to show up and show out.

2288
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 5: President Trump was there walked out my favorite fight of

2289
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 5: all times, grow way till the round and the rock

2290
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 5: wrap the belt around my waist and there was no

2291
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 5: way I could lose that frotherfucker, man.

2292
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: What did you see? Jorge and Nate diaz is boxing

2293
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 1: match with Jake Paul? What did you see?

2294
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 3: You know?

2295
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 5: I saw the match, and uh, there's a lot of

2296
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 5: things that took from it, like tendancyason habits, but that

2297
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 5: that wasn't like the Nate that I'm accustomed to. At

2298
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 5: least it didn't look like he took Jake seriously. It

2299
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,919
Speaker 5: didn't like he was running his mouth, just his body didn't.

2300
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 3: Look at you know.

2301
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 5: So I don't want to I don't want to get

2302
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 5: a false confidence and be like that's the guy in fighting.

2303
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 5: Nate knows that he's not a hundred percent prepared for me.

2304
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 5: He goes to sleep because he knows that I have

2305
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 5: those intentions in me. It's not I'm not I'm not

2306
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 5: trying to fight with you and point at each other

2307
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 5: and fucking giggle it up.

2308
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 3: In the ring like you know, I don't got to

2309
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 3: say it, but everybody knows I'm quite the opposite. But

2310
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do my fucking job.

2311
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 5: My job is to execute separate myself from me as

2312
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 5: much as I can, and that's it, you know. So

2313
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't think that either of them were

2314
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 5: like in the best shape of their lives, are actually

2315
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 5: like mean.

2316
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers, and showed the resport, showed the sport.

2317
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 5: Of boxing and respect and needed because boxing is not

2318
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 5: a game and you gotta be in tip top shape

2319
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 5: and fucking give.

2320
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 3: It your off.

2321
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,599
Speaker 1: Men, What is the plan?

2322
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so you really want to see fake Gili?

2323
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I remember that? Okay? So what you're now out of retirement?

2324
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: You got to fight June first with Nick Diaz. What

2325
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: is the I don't what you call it post retirement plan? Like,

2326
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: now that you're back, what are you trying to get

2327
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: out of this next chapter of your life?

2328
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 5: Well, the UFC allowed to, uh come back for three

2329
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 5: boxing matches. That's exactly what I'm gonna do. Nas the

2330
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 5: first of them, and then we're gonna go after some

2331
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 5: big boxing names, some household names in the boxing business,

2332
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 5: and uh, well you get to it, man, You're gonna

2333
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 5: fight these motherfuckers, sell these pay per views, kick a

2334
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 5: lot of ass, fucking throw the garbage in the trash,

2335
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 5: you know, and then uh he allowed me to do

2336
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 5: these conditions with one fight, to come back for the youth,

2337
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 5: seeing and buck some people up there. So first take

2338
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 5: care of business one foot in front of the other.

2339
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 5: Got Nate, which she's not no slouch or joke. But

2340
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 5: take care of business then and just keep him moving, man.

2341
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 5: See what else happens, and see who I end up fighting,

2342
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 5: you know, and got some good opponents possibly lined up.

2343
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 3: I can't say names.

2344
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 5: Nobody's officially signed yet, but we're working on that. Uh

2345
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 5: So after the fight, we'll be announcing who it is

2346
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 5: and where it is. And then one those to be

2347
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 5: done unofficially retired from the youth see your boy come back.

2348
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Is the UFC getting a cut of any of your

2349
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: earnings by like in order to get you to get

2350
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: because you're getting fights? Do they get a part of

2351
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: it at all? We can't hear what happened.

2352
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 3: That's because I can't say nothing. You got him?

2353
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

2354
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 2: I want to I want to ask look that the

2355
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 2: Baddest Tour will continue this week Tuesday night Times Square

2356
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 2: in New York City, open to the public, will be

2357
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: there Wednesday in Miami Friday in La How do you

2358
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,560
Speaker 2: read nay. It's always hard to read nay right. And

2359
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: it was like we talked about on Friday, it was

2360
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 2: a little it was a little cordial when you fought

2361
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: at UFC two and forty four, a lot of respect.

2362
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: I hear the trash talks mounting up. Do you get

2363
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: the feeling when you look at Nate's eize and the

2364
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: face off that you're gonna get the absolute best of him?

2365
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 5: June first, Well, you know that that trash talks started

2366
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 5: happening on the bad uh and as you started happening

2367
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 5: when when he started just talking crap. You know, after

2368
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 5: the first fight, he called me a coward, like the

2369
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 5: worst things you can call another man. Especially in my

2370
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 5: fifty fights. I've never quit. I've never not came out

2371
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 5: of my stool. Another interesting fact is I've never tapped.

2372
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 5: And they say the same thing. So I'm not calling

2373
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 5: people to tap quitters, but I'm not even in that

2374
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 5: realm like a tap. I've actually gone to sleep or

2375
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 5: got in my ankle on my arms severely fucked up

2376
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 5: rather than tap.

2377
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 3: And I just won't happen.

2378
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 5: I won't tap out, I'll fucking I'll go to sleep

2379
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 5: or find a way to get out of it. But

2380
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 5: it's just not even in my in my thought processing.

2381
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck what I have to go through.

2382
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 5: But I'm not I'm not in the tap. I'm not

2383
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 5: going to quit some friend to say those things like

2384
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 5: they trying to hurt my feelings because I just rearrange

2385
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 5: your face. But that sticks with me for life, Like

2386
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not that dude, you know, so I

2387
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 5: not that allowed to respect for him.

2388
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 3: But I'm like, all right, cool, you want to you

2389
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 3: want to do the ship talking route, let's fucking go.

2390
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 3: Because I could talk shit as well. You know, I

2391
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: could ask them how does my foot taste? And shit

2392
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 3: like that. You can't say the same thing to me ever, know,

2393
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 3: uh or.

2394
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 2: Hey, there's been mythical creatures in the history of combat

2395
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 2: sports that we love, whether it's twenty thirteen Vitor bell Ford,

2396
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 2: Sea Level, Kane Velasquez, how about twenty nineteen Jorge Mosvidal,

2397
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 2: the consensus fighter of the year. When you look back

2398
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 2: at that calendar year in your life, and we've told

2399
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 2: that story so many times of you coming out of

2400
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 2: the woods in Central American reality show and being all

2401
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 2: focused on baptism, what did that year do for your life,

2402
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 2: your brand, your image, your career, everything.

2403
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 5: Person foremost lowly to God. God gave me the vision,

2404
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 5: the plan when I was in the jungles and dr

2405
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 5: and I had a plan and then myself, sixteen years

2406
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 5: of combat, I was able to you know, reverse engineer it,

2407
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 5: do all the detailing I needed to really figure out

2408
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 5: what I wanted to do that for my career. And

2409
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 5: when I initially went to the show, you know, between

2410
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 5: the injuries and not being able to get a fight,

2411
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 5: part of me was like, maybe I'm just done with

2412
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 5: the sport, you know, maybe it's time to move on,

2413
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 5: provide another route for my family, you know. But as

2414
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 5: I got away from the TV, the music, everything, and

2415
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 5: you really get in tune with yourself and you secluded

2416
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 5: from the world and nobody can interfere with my thoughts

2417
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 5: that are going up here.

2418
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 3: Just one thing can come into mind. Here, I need

2419
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 3: to I need to come back and fight. Need to fight. Fight.

2420
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 3: And in that I you know, as I've said many times,

2421
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 3: I came up with a with a plan, and I

2422
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 3: put that plan in.

2423
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 6: Use and pull I was nineteen Fight of the Year,

2424
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 6: knock Out of the Year record holder, belt holder so

2425
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 6: it just showed when you come up with a plan

2426
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 6: with the grouprint for yourself, just have a lot of

2427
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 6: conviction and gasoline behind it and get to it, you know.

2428
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 3: And it's the same thing now, Man, I got a

2429
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 3: I got a good plan for my comeback right.

2430
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 5: Now for his next boxing matches, and then I comeback

2431
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 5: in the You seeing really hurt some people. So I'm

2432
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 5: happy to say here in morning combat with you brothers

2433
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 5: said they're no MMA as well as anybody else. I'm

2434
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 5: gonna come back and snatch some souls up.

2435
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 2: Man, can't wait, can't wait, it all goes down, You got,

2436
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 2: I got one, I.

2437
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: Got all right before you go, quickly, give me a prediction,

2438
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 1: A real prediction, gun to your head kind of prediction, Jake, Paul,

2439
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, what happens?

2440
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 3: I don't, brother, Luke. I mean, I don't even know.

2441
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 5: The exhibition is at sixty nine gloves, it's too many rounds,

2442
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 5: there's all these factors.

2443
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 3: I just don't even know.

2444
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 5: Man.

2445
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 3: You know, my Mike, you know, is an old man.

2446
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 5: No matter how you see it, you know, it's one

2447
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 5: of the fucking greatest everybrades I've ever lived yet. But

2448
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,719
Speaker 5: that was like almost thirty years ago. So I don't

2449
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 5: know how Mike's can show up to the fight, you know,

2450
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think Jake is the greatest boxer

2451
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 5: or like exceptional anywhere with powers feet, But man, she

2452
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 5: still can't take away that the father time gets to everybody,

2453
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 5: you know.

2454
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 3: So I I just don't know. I'm not leaning any

2455
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 3: which way. I just I really don't know too many

2456
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 3: factors there.

2457
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 2: The SI interesting stuff. June first, the Forum in Los Angeles,

2458
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 2: Fan MEO pay per view Chapter two two Combat Sports Icons.

2459
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 2: It's Jorge Moswell and Nate d As Part two and Jorge,

2460
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 2: we can at you Tuesday Night Times Square Fanmeo YouTube page.

2461
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: All the Baddest Tour continues with you and Nate go

2462
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 2: and face to face. Thank you for joining us. We

2463
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: wish you a lot of luck in Hey, drop a

2464
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 2: few g's at that store. Okay, get some nice slacks

2465
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: or something right there.

2466
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm doing that, you guys.

2467
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, game bread poor Hey mos v doll good stuff, Yeah,

2468
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: good stuff right there. Luke to kind of put a

2469
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 2: button on where we're going.

2470
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: The drug testing thing, O'Connor is fucking.

2471
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 2: Hilarious, by the way, We'll just put a button on.

2472
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 2: What's going on Saturday, the Big boxing pay per.

2473
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: View, Hayley Garcia at the Barclay Center.

2474
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 2: Do Zone pay per view, and of course Hani versus Garcia, no.

2475
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: Question, do Zone pay per view, Handy Garcia. That's the

2476
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:48,759
Speaker 1: only place selling it because sometimes it's like ESPN plus dot.

2477
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,799
Speaker 2: Com also, and of course Jim Lampley, our friend Dan Kenobio,

2478
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 2: Chris al Jerry doing work there. And tickets for this

2479
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 2: fight still available. You can purchase tickets for Garcia versus

2480
01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 2: Haney at ticketmaster dot com. We laid out storylines, the expectations,

2481
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 2: the whole debate about Ryan Garcia. He has got people

2482
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 2: interested prediction what actually happens. How does this fight break

2483
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 2: down Saturday night.

2484
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: I think that Ryan Garcia is probably gonna do what

2485
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: you say, which is he's gonna stalk Devin Haney, and

2486
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 1: Devin Haney is going to be a little bit offensively

2487
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: muted to start. He's going to use a lot of footwork,

2488
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: a lot of ringcraft, a lot of clinching, a lot

2489
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: of grabbing, a lot of holding and then getting out

2490
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 1: of the way. But here's the thing. What we know

2491
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,600
Speaker 1: about Devin Haney one of the best jobs in the

2492
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: lower way classes, maybe one of the best jobs in

2493
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 1: all of boxing. He is consistent with it. It comes

2494
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 1: from low to high. It establishes range, it establishes everything

2495
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: else he can do. Once that gets cooking round three,

2496
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: round four, it's going to be curtains for him. And

2497
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 1: the other part two is I think Garcia is going

2498
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: to be put back into bad habits. I do think

2499
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: you're going to see that shoulder roll. I do think

2500
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: you're going to see him extend with his chin wide open,

2501
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get caught with it. So could there

2502
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 1: be a couple of dangerous moments throughout the fight, but

2503
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: certainly early for Devin Haney. Probably so. But skills win fight.

2504
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: He is vastly more skilled, he is vastly more dialed in.

2505
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 1: I think we get a stoppage after somewhere after round nine.

2506
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 2: I think it might even be earlier. It depends how

2507
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 2: crazy this fight actually gets. I think the best case

2508
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 2: scenario though, is if Garcia can come out catch that

2509
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 2: China Haney early and at least at least make some

2510
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 2: pockets of a really fun action. We got to see

2511
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 2: what happens. God does Ryan Garcia have a secret that

2512
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 2: he's hide in front us. You know what I mean?

2513
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Is there something he's more crazy?

2514
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: It might be it there Saturday night, his own pay

2515
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 2: per view from the Barclays in Brooklyn. Can't wait for

2516
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 2: that one, all right, Luke, We close this fantastic episode

2517
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 2: of Morning Combat here with what we do every Monday.

2518
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: Right when I scour the globe for like the highs

2519
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 2: and lows, fart in the elevator, good, the bad, the ugly,

2520
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: the in between. There might be some flatulence than some

2521
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 2: elder abuse. We call this. Have you seen this shit?

2522
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 1: All right? There better be some goddamn elder abuse.

2523
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 2: Luke, I'm I'm proud to announce all of our ship

2524
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: made it through the sensors this week.

2525
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: It's because the sensors went on vacation. So this one,

2526
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: this might be the last one we do.

2527
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 4: All right.

2528
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 2: We start off UFC three hundred from Las Vegas, and Luke,

2529
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 2: we talked about al Joe having a good fight against

2530
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Calvin Cator but not getting the love and respect. How

2531
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: about that power bomb.

2532
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 1: It's not a feel power bomb because he didn't speck

2533
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: him on his head. If you knows, he moves back

2534
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: and so he lands him on his shoulders. So I'm

2535
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 1: telling you, dude, did he did he blow up the

2536
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: world and be like, oh I gotta see al Joe?

2537
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 5: No?

2538
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 1: No, did he show you that he is a force

2539
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: to be reckoned with? Yeah?

2540
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 2: He did. Captain and Sano would have loved that, right there,

2541
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 2: no question about that is all right. Amanda nunas we mentioned,

2542
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 2: was watching at home when Kayla Harrison took care of

2543
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Holly Holm. Let's go to that video. She was waiting

2544
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 2: for the call out that never happened. I just love

2545
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 2: that She's like, hey, guys.

2546
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm still willing. Here's the thing. It's like, oh, you

2547
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: didn't call me out? Aren't you retired?

2548
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 2: True? But that would have been tired, you know, Manda

2549
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 2: Nuna's get your shit together and look, you know that

2550
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 2: would have been.

2551
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: A good movie. Yeah. That's when John Jones was like,

2552
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: just you know, Prenn the Chicks and cars.

2553
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 2: This was more about Kayla's moment and but this is

2554
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 2: good news for women to have made, no question about it.

2555
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 2: Let's go to armand Saryuki and Luke. You didn't get

2556
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 2: the knockout of Charles Olivera. I know he didn't get

2557
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:08,440
Speaker 2: a ko.

2558
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: On the walkout though, check this out.

2559
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 2: I love Dana afterwards like yeah, shoot, all right job

2560
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: tire Long Island.

2561
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 1: If you didn't see it. When he goes by someone

2562
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 1: someone said f you to him as he's walking out,

2563
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: some fam just a fan. He stopped. Here, we go, there,

2564
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: we go watch watch this guy? What the fuck you say, bitch?

2565
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: And someone asked him about it. Afterwards he goes, guys,

2566
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: you can't talk this way to me. I'm from Rassha.

2567
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: This is you know what's going to happen. I'm like,

2568
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 1: that's a fair point.

2569
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: Even datas afterwards, like, you know, you pay your buddy

2570
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 2: for that seat.

2571
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: You can talk your ship, but what do you expect?

2572
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta tell you Normally, you know,

2573
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: obviously we don't want people fighting in the stands. We

2574
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: don't want the palace brawl, right, but I gotta tell

2575
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: you a little palace at the malice for deserving show.

2576
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 2: Zack, your boy is right here for Stevid Jackson. Steven

2577
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 2: Jackson would get our back to and run.

2578
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Steph Jackson will look at this and be like, yeah,

2579
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 1: obviously talk that.

2580
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, we mentioned that you had such a great

2581
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 2: reaction to that Ko that it looked like you were

2582
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 2: at you know, six Flags Great Venture or insert what's

2583
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 2: your what's your old King's dominions, Virginia Bush Gardens. Somebody

2584
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 2: on Twitter here really took this to the next level.

2585
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 2: This is your meme of the week. Let's watch this

2586
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 2: Looke going down Space Mountain. Shout out to at Joe

2587
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 2: Jaggy on Twitter or Instagram. Luke, hands up all the time.

2588
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 2: Come on, let's go on the hills. Yeah, oh Luke,

2589
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 2: it's such a gift. You are such a gift to

2590
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 2: the show.

2591
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: You know what I don't. I'm not going to hide

2592
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 1: from my fandom. It's real.

2593
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 2: Shout out othello, my guy. Right there, let's go, Luke.

2594
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,759
Speaker 2: Busy weekend outside of UFC three hundred in Las Vegas,

2595
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: including the baddest store Luke in which don't bring up

2596
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 2: Jake Paul's name around mazvit all ardeas.

2597
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: No, they don't get too sized for it.

2598
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 2: What did you learn about yourself in that process?

2599
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 3: Here?

2600
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh, Nate? A lot of times. I don't know who

2601
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: hosted that, but that guy's a fucking more.

2602
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he addresses bad too. Wow. Date was answering a

2603
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 2: lot of questions with like the microphone like behind his back.

2604
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it's called shit. Hear you, sir?

2605
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going. Also in Vegas, Luke

2606
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 2: Power Slap seven and you know how sometimes they get

2607
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 2: these catchers. You gotta do your job though, right.

2608
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: The head flopped. You know, I didn't see this. There's

2609
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: a guy I think he calls himself fight Ghost on Twitter.

2610
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: He's like one of he's hardcore. Fair Well. What he

2611
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 1: was saying was there was a bunch of upsets on

2612
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 1: this car, people who were champions. He said, uh, but

2613
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: what happened was like these are guys who've been knocked

2614
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: out before. He was saying that, like the chins go

2615
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: in this sport quickly, like once they take one of these,

2616
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: they're there's no coming there.

2617
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 2: These catchers their job is to live like they have

2618
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 2: forced Griffin do this sometimes.

2619
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: Now to tell you, I don't mind that they don't

2620
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: do their job. I'm not really going to cry.

2621
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 5: Hey.

2622
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 2: Dana did say Saturday that he expects celebrity crossover sooner

2623
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 2: than later in Power Slip that I hope that doesn't

2624
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 2: mean X fighter x UFC fires. I really hope, Like

2625
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 2: I do you want.

2626
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like, is this is this gonna be like

2627
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: the acting equivalent of bang bus, where like if you

2628
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: can't even be on like free TV anymore, you just

2629
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 1: got to go figure out.

2630
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: Like, dude, if like Roy Nelson check Congo are squaring

2631
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: off in this soon, like I'm out, dude, I'm I

2632
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 2: mean I was already out, but like, yeah, I've been in. Yeah,

2633
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I've been missing it. Also in Vegas,

2634
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 2: Luke was the PFL like you mentioned, you.

2635
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 1: Wouldn't know it. By the way, I'm not listening to me.

2636
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 1: Good show, Good show, Zeo Row.

2637
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: Buzz Well, Cassius Clay Collar did make it on the

2638
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: ship here he's pa tricky Pipple.

2639
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: Look at this nineteen punch combination. Who's the top rank

2640
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 1: matchmaker on Twitter? Uh? Brad Jacobs, Brad Goodman, No, it's

2641
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: not Bus Trampler, Tom Something Corn Something Corn. Yes, yeah

2642
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: he was. He was so because remember during the pandemic

2643
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: they collared fought in boxing for top rank. During the

2644
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,839
Speaker 1: middle of that, all the top rank guys were apparently

2645
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 1: watching this and we're celebrating on Twitter afterwards. So good

2646
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: for Clare.

2647
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 2: You beat the crap out of patricky people a right there.

2648
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: That was a good finish and also top rank boxing

2649
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 2: Luke on the undercard, twenty year old Dominican heavyweight Ali

2650
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 2: Feliese got a knockout in his pro debut, and he

2651
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 2: did it against a guy. He did it against a

2652
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 2: guy in sweatpants and Jordan's Luke.

2653
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: But that happens. I mean, could your could your trunks

2654
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: be higher? These trunks both cover my waist and titties.

2655
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 2: Oh boy, there's that was on the Jared Anderson undercard

2656
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: in Texas.

2657
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going, Luke.

2658
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, for some ri p not just Gary Shaw, but

2659
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 2: O Renhal, James Simpson and very very uh polarizing reception

2660
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 2: to include this picture.

2661
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't by the way, Aeriel, if you're looking at this,

2662
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't make these. I don't make these these. Uh

2663
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: what you make it like?

2664
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 2: This is the react, the reaction he has told.

2665
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Me the story to how they met. I forget what

2666
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: it was. I don't. I don't recall anymore.

2667
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: Which guy would you rather go on across country trip?

2668
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 2: But that's really the question. No, that's not unfair, Luke,

2669
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 2: all right.

2670
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 1: Poll one of them's dead. One of them's dead, yeah.

2671
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, I've never seen rightfully so this

2672
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 2: many people come out after somebody died and been so

2673
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:21,879
Speaker 2: aggressively negative.

2674
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: And you know what's kind of funny. I saw a

2675
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: lot of people who were like twenty years old who

2676
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: weren't around for the OJ trial. We were in high

2677
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 1: school during the trial. Let me tell you something. Put

2678
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: the camera on me.

2679
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 2: As you often say, it's not your fault, cameraman that

2680
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 2: you were born in nine camera.

2681
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: Listen. If you were born in twenty one and you

2682
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: think OJ is not guilty, you're a fucking moron.

2683
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: Fuck You're like, all right, okay, look, let's keep it going.

2684
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 2: Did you hear Clarissa Shields disc track aimed at Alicia.

2685
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's how it goes, right, Yeah, Well, trying to

2686
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 1: come with me at least to come harder. You read

2687
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 1: what you sell, not them. What a bomb?

2688
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 2: God even your bess that you.

2689
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: Couldn't hurt me? What I look like?

2690
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: Thirty four bit that drop dirty nigga?

2691
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, apologies for the end word. I can't do

2692
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 1: the N word part. The rest of its sound spirited.

2693
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 2: That's not bad. Like Ryan Garcia's video when he was

2694
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 2: singing recently, was real weird.

2695
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 1: But Ryan garcia Is is the worst thing I've ever

2696
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 1: heard short of an animal being tortured. Okay, this is

2697
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 1: better than that.

2698
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 2: Do you want to see this fight because they were

2699
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 2: they had to be separated at a fight recently in person?

2700
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Actually I do. I mean, I don't know if

2701
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 1: it makes sense when the weight classes, but in terms

2702
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: of rivalry, it's fun.

2703
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:26,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting. New sport alert, Luke, you've heard of mud wrestling, right?

2704
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 1: Have I?

2705
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: Have you heard of mud boxing? This has got to

2706
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 2: be Russian, right, Just too slot Russian for CT I'll

2707
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 2: tell you that much. Lucas is an interesting theater writer.

2708
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 2: Who you got the guy covered in JIT or the

2709
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 2: other guy covered?

2710
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't think either of these guys are going to

2711
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,839
Speaker 1: be anywhere near a Nobel Prize committee's attention.

2712
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 2: Remember that Don Fry fight and pride is what I mean.

2713
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: It's like when people get Darwin Awards. It's like due

2714
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: not everyone's meant to live.

2715
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, one of my favorite follows on Instagram

2716
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 2: is that guy with the fart machine.

2717
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: Luke, you know what I'm talking about? Actually don't. It's

2718
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. I have not seen this all right,

2719
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: who can't touch this?

2720
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 3: All right, my cart, that's my cart.

2721
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: I think that's sure, ye, So Luke shout out to

2722
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 2: super stupid poop on Instagram. I harassed my kids with

2723
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 2: these videos constantly, like you do.

2724
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: I tell you, I gotta tell you. These pranks, I

2725
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: usually don't like them, but the fact that he makes

2726
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:43,839
Speaker 1: eye contact.

2727
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: He holds the mirror up in Walmart and watches people's eyes.

2728
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Through the mirror, which the fact that he makes eye

2729
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: contact is such a filthy, dirt bag thing to do.

2730
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: I have no choice but to respect it.

2731
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the hey man. We played

2732
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Flip Cup or not Flip Cup beer park with the

2733
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 2: man point guys, and I would clutchy ship.

2734
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: And I got the first one and then nothing there,

2735
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: and then I took us home.

2736
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 2: Let's check in on this game.

2737
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I got a few fellows playing here on some Plywoods

2738
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,839
Speaker 1: astros Jersey there, Yeah, come in fucking lose her ass franchise.

2739
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 1: Why don't you go bang on garbage camp? Okay, okay,

2740
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you though, that's part of the whole thing.

2741
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: I one time played at my fraternity house and a

2742
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: guy was looking for a place to vomit and he

2743
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: just picked up like a traffic cone, which of course

2744
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 1: is open, and so the vomit just went right through.

2745
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: We were like, maybe don't do that. Yeah, you end

2746
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 1: up running for office later. By the way, Yeah, I

2747
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: did not get over and Barry lukeoa crack out his

2748
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: job back. Let's forget that.

2749
01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 2: We don't have elder abuse this week, but we do

2750
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 2: have some child abuse. We haven't had this in a while.

2751
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 1: Is that abuse?

2752
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 2: I think that's how she got pink eye.

2753
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: That's how I'd like to get Okay, Luke, you've heard

2754
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: that famous phrase. Nothing a double leg couldn't figure out.

2755
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: Here you go the skits and I was waiting. I

2756
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 1: was like, when MK comes back, how long before the

2757
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 1: Reddit skits and bits hit going? Didn't take long? That's

2758
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: not fair at all.

2759
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 2: But speaking of that, Luke, watch this double leg.

2760
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Just double legg as motherfucker down. You know what, both

2761
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: of you just stay down there, Just stay down there, Lucas.

2762
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 2: Time for the T shirts of the week, and you

2763
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 2: know this always gets a big six. I'm gonna get

2764
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 2: you this for.

2765
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 1: Your prediction awareness. Latin Latina halick guiltiest shark.

2766
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 2: Yes, would you wear that?

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01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 1: Proudly.

2768
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I wish we could do what was that old

2769
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 2: bit we had on the wheel impromptu improv Luke, where

2770
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 2: we could pretend that you have to stand up and

2771
01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 2: say my name is Luke Thomas. I don't like that bit,

2772
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 2: Latina hallick.

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01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep the t shirts going. Let me read

2774
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 1: it out for the folks listening on the podcast platform.

2775
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: This gentleman here whose mouth breathing, has a shirt that

2776
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 1: says anyone can masturbate under a sheet, but it takes

2777
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 1: real skill to do it without the hairdresser noticing. Okay,

2778
01:59:58,760 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: all right, you.

2779
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 2: Should read the next one.

2780
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 1: I really don't think let me see the next one. Okay,

2781
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 1: my man's shirt, I'm gonna read it, no doubt. Hucocky

2782
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 1: ruined my carpet.

2783
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 2: And the show apparently.

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02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.

2785
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 2: A couple more left, Luke, Well, look at the handle

2786
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 2: on this.

2787
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 1: The censor's more on vacation. I mean you snuck them

2788
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 1: all in.

2789
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 2: Would you grab that, Luke with two hands or one?

2790
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: You know what. It's a little cold, but we can

2791
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 1: make things happen.

2792
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 2: And speaking of the former UFC, have wait shops taking

2793
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 2: this tunetn thing to the extremely right.

2794
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 1: Tell me that's not him. That's not him, right, this

2795
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 1: is some other video.

2796
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 2: No it's not him?

2797
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, maybe what the fuck are you idiots doing?

2798
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 4: All fuck?

2799
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 1: That was me when Max Holloway knocked out justin gegee.

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02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 1: That's how I felt. That's how I felt, dude, What

2801
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 1: the fuck are these dude? These two fucking idiots. This

2802
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 1: is why they made seatbelts. It's for fucking morons like that.

2803
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Yes, that's your ship of the week. I hope you've

2804
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 2: seen it there, Luke. Okay, that's what it is.

2805
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 4: Hey?

2806
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 2: Was that the best two hours?

2807
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: In comments for it? Too real quick? I would have

2808
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: liked to have gone longer, but we have limited time

2809
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: in studio because they got to turn around for the

2810
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: next fucking Uh.

2811
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 2: What do you say to the people that are like, man,

2812
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm so happy MK's back, but wish it was more.

2813
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 2: But I wish it was MK all day, damn near

2814
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 2: every time people.

2815
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny we made that that video announcing

2816
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 1: we were back, and people claim to have heard it.

2817
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that they actually did, or the.

2818
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 2: Five hundred references that the last three months didn't go

2819
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,280
Speaker 2: to plan, but that we will get there step by sting.

2820
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 1: We did, and we did. So it's the same thing.

2821
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 1: It's like, are there discussions right now about doing additional days?

2822
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Are we actively talking about it and potentially planning it? Yes,

2823
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 1: as as a matter of fact, we are.

2824
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 2: Are we going to expand our team and our operation

2825
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 2: over going to.

2826
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 1: Live by the way? May fourth, We're supposed to be

2827
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: going to the Canelo fight. So like Peace, I told

2828
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 1: you guys, we're gonna have to rebuild brick by brick,

2829
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 1: but we're on the way. We're on the way.

2830
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 2: One more time, Luke for three hundred? Can we pour

2831
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 2: one out?

2832
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:11,200
Speaker 3: Can we do it?

2833
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Celis riba else else?

2834
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: Gundo, Luke, I forgot my wallet again. I will say

2835
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 2: though that like it restored my faith and why I

2836
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 2: do this, why I love this, why I would stay

2837
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 2: up to four am.

2838
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 1: It was one of the greatest one. I mean, for

2839
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 1: not having been there in person, that's probably one of

2840
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 1: the greatest emotions I've ever felt watching fight.

2841
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 2: Has there been a UFC car that you came out

2842
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 2: of there more more jacked up?

2843
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 1: More in terms of like what one fight did to me.

2844
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to be kar When Lesner won

2845
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 2: sixteen that.

2846
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: The closest one I can think of. That one was

2847
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: insane and also like it's different because boxing is different,

2848
02:02:55,800 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 1: but Bud sustain sustaining his beating of arrows ends was

2849
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 1: just like continuously shocking, you know what I mean? This

2850
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 1: was like Max did really well. Then there was this

2851
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 1: like incredibly punctuated moment that one had the knockdown in

2852
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: the second round or second or third round, whatever it was,

2853
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:15,560
Speaker 1: and then he just never let off the fucking gas.

2854
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 1: That was a little bit different for me.

2855
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 2: But I have to say, like was there not every

2856
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 2: fight was perfect on this card, but like the intensity

2857
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 2: from fight I could not wait for the next fight

2858
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 2: every single time. It was you know, normally you're like, okay,

2859
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 2: I got this amount of time before the main card,

2860
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 2: I'll just kind of casually watch this.

2861
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 1: No, like it was like the old the old days, Lucas,

2862
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: like we did even the fights of people were bitching

2863
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: about like the androgen Hadriguez fire, Like did that need

2864
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:37,120
Speaker 1: to be there?

2865
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 4: Man?

2866
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 1: Now you can debate that, but it was fine. It

2867
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 1: was like there was nothing wrong with that. It was

2868
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: it was competitive, It was on the feet, like they

2869
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 1: didn't like, you know, stall it out like it just

2870
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 1: it just delivered. I was thinking about this too, like

2871
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: MMA moments, what Max did. We were talking about, because

2872
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 1: people are comparing it to fight endings, and I don't

2873
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: think on pure Chao terms it can hold up in

2874
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 1: terms of fight endings. On pure Kao terms, yeah, it's vicious,

2875
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 1: but again what what Jaqing Buckley did. But when you

2876
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: think about MMA moments, due to me, I'm gonna put

2877
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 1: this one right up there with the staredown between Lawler

2878
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: and McDonald in their fight, right up there with a

2879
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 1: showtime kicking right out there.

2880
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 2: That fight is actually better I don't think I told

2881
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 2: you this before than McDonald versus versus the uh the

2882
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 2: other guy?

2883
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:24,840
Speaker 1: What what? What language are you fucking.

2884
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm speaking Lawler versus Condon. Oh okay, you know a

2885
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 2: great debate, Luke. You just have to remember what you're

2886
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 2: talking about. Clearly I'm I have.

2887
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 1: But don't you think in terms of moments like the

2888
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 1: showtime kick was the last WEC fight. It didn't stop

2889
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: the fight, the fight kept going. Yeah, but just as

2890
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 1: one of those oh shit moments.

2891
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's right up there with the thing that doesn't

2892
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 2: get enough attention, which is uh, which is the Denver

2893
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 2: twenty fifth anniversary show with Korean Zombie. Yeah you're Rodriguez

2894
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:52,520
Speaker 2: because you know, I know, like that was kind of

2895
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 2: like a contendership fight. It was a fight night card,

2896
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 2: but I mean that's the ultimate come from behind walk off.

2897
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:01,520
Speaker 2: This didn't have that because Max was in the lead.

2898
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 2: But like I said, man, I actually think it's up

2899
02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 2: there with Rowsey Holme. I actually think it's up there

2900
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 2: with Grilva's front kick, up there with the Matt Hughes slam.

2901
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the greatest, most iconic moments.

2902
02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm so happy as a fan forget journalists, just as

2903
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 2: a fan to even to heaven dured that and yeah, man.

2904
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Apex fight coming up?

2905
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 2: All right, look, I think you can have a train

2906
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 2: to catch in another job there. We want to shout out.

2907
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm done working for the day. Shout out DraftKings, Hey, DraftKings.

2908
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 1: You could check us out DraftKings Network at five pm

2909
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 1: for a replay of some of this for folks who

2910
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 1: may not have gotten it the first time. Of course,

2911
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be out on the audio platforms and

2912
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 1: everything else. So so yeah, and then again one more time,

2913
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 1: you're going to be here tomorrow for.

2914
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 2: The for the Baddest Tour Diz versus mos Vidal too.

2915
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 2: They're going to go face to face Tuesday night in

2916
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 2: New York City in Times Square.

2917
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 1: By the way, that presser was late East Coast time, and.

2918
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 2: For us it was eleven pm East Coast time. It's

2919
02:05:57,880 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 2: going to be earlier this time around and around the

2920
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. And we're going to be Monday Wednesday night

2921
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 2: in Miami, Friday night in Los Angeles. So it should

2922
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 2: be good. We'll see. Has the uh the train keeps rolling?

2923
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 2: What what Nate says here? Luke? All right?

2924
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 1: What does Nate say here?

2925
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:16,280
Speaker 2: The man a few words? But can Jorge get under

2926
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 2: his skin? That's a question.

2927
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 1: I think he can.

2928
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 2: I think you can do great catching up with wars.

2929
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 2: He had a cols right there was that Nah and M.

2930
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't know where he was. I know he's in

2931
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: studio with Ariel though. I know that.

2932
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's that's a big booking. That's that's pretty

2933
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 2: cool right there. Thank you to everybody for watching Morningcombat

2934
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Speaker 2: Dot store for our merch till RJ we said, hi,

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Speaker 2: for ten percent off everything we do, from bomber jackets

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Speaker 2: to all that other bullshit. What else you got anything else?

2938
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Speaker 1: Chin m. Thanks everyone who watched all my stuff over

2939
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: the weekend. I appreciate that YouTube dot com slash Luke Thomas.

2940
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:49,360
Speaker 1: That was very very cool. Some stuff to figure out

2941
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 1: at a Would it surprise you that I had some

2942
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: tech issues? Would it surprise it?

2943
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:53,360
Speaker 2: Would not surprise me?

2944
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: But we fixed them. I fixed them so we were

2945
02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: able to hold on and make it work. So thanks

2946
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,040
Speaker 1: to everybody. By the way, people have asking us, you know,

2947
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 1: as you expand and potentially do more shows, which again

2948
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 1: we are actively discussing. One thing that they said was, hey,

2949
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: could you guys do like a member's only thing on

2950
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:14,919
Speaker 1: Morning Combat. We're like, you have to have an uncensured

2951
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 1: show for members, And I didn't say no, Like is

2952
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:19,840
Speaker 1: that a possibility BC? I think it is.

2953
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 2: I mean, how uncensored is uncensored?

2954
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 1: Luke?

2955
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2956
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,440
Speaker 1: Like we're going to record it in a bang bust

2957
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 1: we just call it a day.

2958
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not ranking our favorite straweights, right, We're

2959
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 2: not going too far with this, right, you.

2960
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 1: Know pants when they get to the anchor, Yes, people.

2961
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 2: Want more content. We want to get paid for more content.

2962
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:38,839
Speaker 2: We want to be able to provide bonus content. We're

2963
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 2: working on something. We're in the kitchen cooking up at

2964
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 2: least for now. Thank you for watching. We're so happy

2965
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 2: to be back here Malasic Studio.

2966
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 1: People think that there was like another thing that we

2967
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 1: could have done that would have made life easier for

2968
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 1: everyone else and us, and that.

2969
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 2: We just chose not to, Like you promised a whole

2970
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 2: new thing and nothing changed, all right, And.

2971
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 1: We're like, guys, we are playing with the hand we've

2972
02:07:59,320 --> 02:07:59,800
Speaker 1: been dealt.

2973
02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 2: We say we helped save the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think people will understand that. There we go.

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Speaker 1: There you want to take us out. No, I'm just

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Speaker 1: out of here, okay, all right, Brian Campbell, it's the

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Speaker 1: King Connecticut. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so much

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