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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan hansis here in Los Angeles on the day
Speaker 1: before Independence Day, when yes, you should absolutely be wearing
Speaker 1: your sunscreen skin health people get it. Joining me. Just
Speaker 1: one other man today, Mark Sessler is doing whatever Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler does when he's on vacation. But here a man
Speaker 1: not in America but in the Orient, the far East,
Speaker 1: a man who went dark last week as he became
Speaker 1: one with the culture of Tokyo, the great metropolis of
Speaker 1: the East. But now here he is contributing to the West.
Speaker 2: Greg Rosental, I feel like we got to update this music,
Speaker 2: but I appreciate it. I have become one with the
Speaker 2: culture here. But these colors don't run. Dan, and some
Speaker 2: might say I'm the most American, the most patriotic of
Speaker 2: any American, because I've been celebrating the last seven hours.
Speaker 2: It's already fourth of July here. I woke up at midnight.
Speaker 2: I've just been you know, watching WWE since for the
Speaker 2: last seven hours. I'm already ahead of you in my
Speaker 2: fourth of July.
Speaker 1: Soe for people listening, you would think that Greg wouldn't
Speaker 1: be in a totally white room in a gray polo shirt.
Speaker 1: He's actually dressed like Apollo Creed before the drago fight.
Speaker 1: That's how patriotic Greg rosehal is. Is there something wrong
Speaker 1: with this song? Is this? You said it is outdated?
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just you know, it is very
Speaker 2: it's very traditional Japanese. We could get some jpop or
Speaker 2: something now. This this reminds me the most Japanese I
Speaker 2: ever feel on these trips to go to the own
Speaker 2: sen which is like a like a hotel, but with
Speaker 2: hot springs. So you go in the bath there, you
Speaker 2: go in the hot spring baths, and you get out
Speaker 2: of the hot spring baths and you put on your
Speaker 2: rope and you're walking. You're just totally.
Speaker 1: At peace.
Speaker 2: At that point, you've been blasted by hot water for
Speaker 2: a half hour. You're just as chill as can be.
Speaker 2: And when you're walking in the hallway back to your
Speaker 2: room in your yukata in the rope, they are playing
Speaker 2: music kind of like this, and I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: about as Japanese as it gets.
Speaker 1: Are you how to approach it? Are you the only
Speaker 1: westerner that's there? Are you the only white guy? That's
Speaker 1: walking through these hallways, do you get looks like are
Speaker 1: you accepted there? H?
Speaker 2: Well, they don't. Not a lot of English speakers, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of an unwritten rule, you don't. You don't
Speaker 2: speak in these in the baths anyways, because everyone's naked.
Speaker 2: It's not like a talking, talking kind of place. But
Speaker 2: to answer your question, yes, I'm usually the only Westerner.
Speaker 2: Very often it's not crowded at all. There's barely anyone there.
Speaker 2: But last weekend, actually it was. It was quite crowded
Speaker 2: and I was getting a lot of looks. But I
Speaker 2: think that was because of my awkward tattoo covers I
Speaker 2: had to put over my shoulder I don't want. Maybe
Speaker 2: that was in my head, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Why did you have to cover your tattoos?
Speaker 2: Well, they have signs everywhere that you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: go in with tattoos. It's like an old yakuza thing.
Speaker 2: But supposedly it's it's more if you put the effort
Speaker 2: to put it over, that's enough. It's more the thought
Speaker 2: that counts. And you're not supposed to have the full
Speaker 2: body like I'm in the mob yakuza stuff, which I
Speaker 2: do not have.
Speaker 1: Holy God, So based on my knowledge of the culture
Speaker 1: of Japan, which is based on like six movies and
Speaker 1: a TV show. It is very important to bring great
Speaker 1: respect to things, and it's also it's very easy to
Speaker 1: bring great shame upon things, and you want to avoid
Speaker 1: bringing great shame upon family, and you want to bring
Speaker 1: great respect. So a tattoo brings great shame upon the
Speaker 1: Emica family. To see Greg walking around with the ink,
Speaker 1: that would be no respect, shame.
Speaker 2: So that's why you put the cover run. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't really go down with her with her father,
Speaker 2: my father in law anyways, so I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's if he's seen it too much. Walker's there too though,
Speaker 2: often my son, So I'm not the only not the
Speaker 2: only way.
Speaker 1: I mean, while we're here, you're you're a not practicing
Speaker 1: but you're a Jewish man and you're not allowed to
Speaker 1: be buried in a Jewish cemetery either. With tattoos. I mean,
Speaker 1: you break so many rules. Greg, That's why you're the
Speaker 1: bad boy of the West. That's why they call you that.
Speaker 2: Is that a I didn't even know that's a Jewish rule?
Speaker 2: But what yeah, I'm I'm bridging and barriers here, bridge
Speaker 2: and boundaries but what are you doing for the fourth
Speaker 2: You're back in Alsa Gondo.
Speaker 1: I got, yeah, this is this is you know very
Speaker 1: you know, hot dogs, Hamburger's, apple pie, fireworks, swimming pool.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice to be
Speaker 1: with the family. My wife and two boys. They did
Speaker 1: a little extra time in Texas. I was home alone,
Speaker 1: which was nice for five days, but then you miss
Speaker 1: you miss things. So the family's back together as of
Speaker 1: this morning, and Harrison is opening up a lemonade stand
Speaker 1: in our driveway. And I spent much of my last
Speaker 1: day here helping like to build and paint this lemonade
Speaker 1: stand for Harrison. So tomorrow will be a big day
Speaker 1: of commerce.
Speaker 2: That's a big moment in every kid's life. Well not
Speaker 2: every kid. I never did it. I'm probably too lazy
Speaker 2: to have my kids do it, but maybe we'll do it.
Speaker 1: He's agreed to give half of his earnings to homeless people.
Speaker 1: Is how he put it, half to homeless people. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, half, okay, how about how about all that?
Speaker 1: He's like, no, not all, okay. Half. It is July third,
Speaker 1: this is our last show for a week and a half,
Speaker 1: so we're going to get you. There's not much to
Speaker 1: catch you up on. If you're listening to the show.
Speaker 1: We're part of your routine and you're a fan of
Speaker 1: our work, so we really appreciate you. Because typically this
Speaker 1: is when the NFL despite and this is where Mark
Speaker 1: would chime in. Greg, despite all its efforts, which are enormous,
Speaker 1: the NFL cannot figure out how to crack this time
Speaker 1: of year right now, And despite the gains it's made
Speaker 1: in March, February, April, May, June, it has not figured
Speaker 1: out July, at least the first three weeks. So it's
Speaker 1: pretty quiet.
Speaker 2: No, this is nice. I often this time of year,
Speaker 2: and it annoys them. I bet that the NBA has
Speaker 2: a nice little time of year. I often this time
Speaker 2: of year. I'm just happy I'm not an NBA reporter
Speaker 2: who goes from the NBA Finals right to the draft,
Speaker 2: right to free agency, which is a wild worldwide.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's sending.
Speaker 2: Now. There's nothing good on. Yeah, But I mean they
Speaker 2: do it like we like. The draft is the next
Speaker 2: week after the final, and free agencies the next week.
Speaker 2: There's no break at all. They smash it up all together.
Speaker 2: The NFL has a nice way of just stretching it
Speaker 2: out and never losing your interest. But yeah, by the
Speaker 2: time we're back next week, we're we're almost almost feeling
Speaker 2: all the way back, and we'll have some news and
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, So today we'll yeah, whatever news is floating around,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get also, Yes, with the fourth of July
Speaker 1: upon us, we are going to talk about things that
Speaker 1: we're feeling patriotic about in the NFL A little bit nebulos,
Speaker 1: but we'll make it work or we won't, and then
Speaker 1: the next day will come and everybody will forget that
Speaker 1: this podcast ever existed. I feel like we're in a
Speaker 1: good pocket here, Greg.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is gonna be a fun segment.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, we talk about the downside
Speaker 2: sometimes of this job here, that we should have a
Speaker 2: lot of pride in the in the n f NL,
Speaker 2: this sport that we cover and people. I look at
Speaker 2: the I look at the you know, the downloads. People
Speaker 2: listen to these episodes just as much as any other
Speaker 2: time of year. So we love the.
Speaker 1: People, absolutely, we do love the people. Let's hit the news.
Speaker 1: All I know is you're messing with me. You got problems,
Speaker 1: That's all I know. Greg, does that bring back any
Speaker 1: memories for you, because it certainly did for me when
Speaker 1: I stumbled upon it about forty eight minutes.
Speaker 2: Ago, specifically that clip.
Speaker 1: No, I want to say, and longtime listeners of the
Speaker 1: show will probably be able to back me up on this.
Speaker 1: That was one of the earlier like kind of drops
Speaker 1: that had a lot of legs on our show because
Speaker 1: when ATM first started in twenty thirteen, that's when JJ
Speaker 1: Watt ruled the world. And it just so happens, GREGI
Speaker 1: that I in looking for a drop that tied into
Speaker 1: our first news story, which is JJ Watt is joining
Speaker 1: CBS as he begins his post playing days another career.
Speaker 1: I fell down a wormhole watching. I don't know if
Speaker 1: NFL Network still airs the show, but it's a great
Speaker 1: show miked Up. I don't know if it's still like
Speaker 1: a program on our schedule, but it's still you know.
Speaker 2: I think it is actually Okay, good watch it.
Speaker 1: Look it up in your local listenings, this JJ Watt.
Speaker 1: The thing about miked Up with any sport is you
Speaker 1: don't you never know what you're gonna get when you
Speaker 1: mic somebody up, and you hope the person not only
Speaker 1: is engaging, and there's some good nugs to get on
Speaker 1: the audio side of things. But if you can get
Speaker 1: like a big time performance from a player, then you
Speaker 1: really hit it out of the park. So I'll always
Speaker 1: think about that first drop you heard Week thirteen, twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen against the Tennessee Titans. While with the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: we're talking peak JJ Watt Eric behind the virtual glass
Speaker 1: hit another one? What you got ten?
Speaker 2: You got some?
Speaker 1: Let's see it. I'll show you, I'll show you. Make
Speaker 1: sure you gotta go get some popcorn, maybe some ju jub's,
Speaker 1: a slushy snow cap, perhaps maybe some snow caps. I
Speaker 1: don't know, You're gonna be comfortable. Today was the show.
Speaker 1: Was the show. So that's what during pregame stretching. And
Speaker 1: I always thought that Watt was kind of a fascinating
Speaker 1: figure and it does tie into his post playing career
Speaker 1: now where yeah, he's he was undeniably a corny guy,
Speaker 1: uh and maybe the biggest cornball like in the league
Speaker 1: in some ways. But his play was so enormous. In
Speaker 1: that game, he had like three sacks, including a strip
Speaker 1: sack and a fumble recovery, a touchdown reception from Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick of all people, and uh, the way the way
Speaker 1: he's walking around and none of the guys are even
Speaker 1: really paying attention to him as he's saying this stuff.
Speaker 2: Start that he chest been a young DeAndre Hopkins to
Speaker 2: start that.
Speaker 1: Very young, but that I thought captured the Watt vibe
Speaker 1: very nicely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I feel like I think about Wes a
Speaker 2: lot when we talked JJ Watt because we were just
Speaker 2: I think we were all fascinated by this guy. I've
Speaker 2: said it before in the show. I still think he's
Speaker 2: the best defensive player I've ever seen at when he
Speaker 2: was at his peak, I actually would still even take
Speaker 2: him over Aaron. Maybe it was just more obvious when
Speaker 2: you were watching it. He was like the first guy
Speaker 2: that I just decided I would watch every single snap
Speaker 2: and it was always entertaining. Michael Parsons has gotten close,
Speaker 2: but peak Watt was better than anyone else, and Wes
Speaker 2: loved him, and Wes, like a lot of guys who
Speaker 2: kind of made it about themselves, had like a love
Speaker 2: hate thing where he hated the corny side of JJ Watt,
Speaker 2: but love loved the player. And he feels like he's
Speaker 2: landing at the right place jj Watt at CBS.
Speaker 1: He has ended at the right place. CBS is kind
Speaker 1: of where he should be. Here's the quote from Mont.
Speaker 1: I will be working on CBS this fall. Really a
Speaker 1: great opportunity. I'm very much looking forward to it. I'm
Speaker 1: very much looking forward to talking NFL with all you
Speaker 1: fans this fall. Interesting. He's thirty four years old. He
Speaker 1: retired after a twelve year NFL career, wrapping it up
Speaker 1: in Arizona. That run, Greg and that was the twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen season where I just played that from I think
Speaker 1: you could argue and there will be old heads who
Speaker 1: could point to guys from way back in the day.
Speaker 1: Of course, LT at his heights. That's another guy that
Speaker 1: you look at. Aaron Donald more recently. You know that
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen he finished second in the MVP vote. He
Speaker 1: finished first in Defensive Player of the Year First team
Speaker 1: All Pro. He had twenty and a half sacks, twenty
Speaker 1: nine tackles for lost, fifty one QB hits. He was
Speaker 1: legitimately unblockable. And I'm with you that I think, at
Speaker 1: least since we've been doing this show, I give him
Speaker 1: even the edge over Donald. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's yeah, maybe unfair to Donald, but Watt to me
Speaker 1: was like the guy, the guy that could. He never disappeared,
Speaker 1: and he was just a constant, constant menace. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be any good in the booth
Speaker 1: or on the set. In fact, it does make me
Speaker 1: a little nervous, Like he's joining that CBS team, there's
Speaker 1: just gonna be a lot of stilted laughter, like a lot.
Speaker 1: But maybe he'll surprise us. You never know what these guys.
Speaker 2: Let's be real. Unless he has some viral clips, we
Speaker 2: will never watch that. We will never see what he
Speaker 2: has to say. And I'm always a little worried Win.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I didn't want to like commit too much.
Speaker 2: He's just like flying in for like big games and playoffs,
Speaker 2: and you know, he's like a part time studio guy
Speaker 2: with with Boomer and Bill Kawer. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if we're gonna get a lot of gems. It doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like he's going in all the way. But I
Speaker 2: remember writing those like MVP columns where I would like,
Speaker 2: you know, for on NFL dot com, where you'd rank
Speaker 2: who they're the top five candidates every week, And I
Speaker 2: was always pushing like if he doesn't win the MVP,
Speaker 2: no defensive player ever will or should because he's just
Speaker 2: better than anyone. But he was also going up against
Speaker 2: peak like Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning seasons in two
Speaker 2: of his best seasons, So I get it why he
Speaker 2: didn't win, but he was as good as I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if we'll ever see it. I
Speaker 1: think I think lt was the last defensive player if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken to win MVP back and I'm going
Speaker 1: to say eighty six, Eric, maybe you got fact check
Speaker 1: me on that one. And if Watt couldn't do it
Speaker 1: during that run, I don't think anybody ever will. And
Speaker 1: there's just you know, we did the Superstar Club last week, Greg,
Speaker 1: and there are seven guys that I have in the club,
Speaker 1: and there's a decent chance. And there are certain guys
Speaker 1: like a Lamar Jackson for example, Justin Herbert who have
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do, but there's a chance
Speaker 1: like all seven of those guys could be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame one day. So when you have that
Speaker 1: much quarterback talent in the league, in addition to the
Speaker 1: other skill players that these quarterbacks are throwing it to
Speaker 1: the idea of a defensive player getting it. You would
Speaker 1: have to do something that's never been done before. Maybe
Speaker 1: it would take twenty five sacks. You'd have to set
Speaker 1: some type of record or some hallowed record. Otherwise, I
Speaker 1: think finishing second MVP and taking DPO wise the best
Speaker 1: you could do.
Speaker 2: I also appreciate it. As one of the few viewers
Speaker 2: of Arizona Cardinals in season hard Knocks, JJ Watt spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time in front of the NFL films
Speaker 2: cameras over the course of his career. He was sort
Speaker 2: of a full circle moment. He was very likable as
Speaker 2: the older kind of mentor guy and still a total badass,
Speaker 2: like still the best player on their defense for long stretches.
Speaker 2: So he was one of the highlights last year.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll do it. I think he plays this
Speaker 1: year Sandwich.
Speaker 2: I mean I would take that, yes, certainly, yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: Actually I like it better just in this one on
Speaker 1: one setting, because I don't like jj Watt's broadcasting career.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in with two feet on it.
Speaker 1: But it just makes so much sense. If you know,
Speaker 1: if the Steelers are nine and six in December, and
Speaker 1: he has a chance to give them that little juice
Speaker 1: on the edge with his brother playing there, or insert
Speaker 1: another team that's looking for that one last piece with
Speaker 1: JJ Watt with zero titles. Pass up with that opportunity.
Speaker 1: There we go Sandwich, the first sandwich proposition of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, right there, Gregory Well.
Speaker 2: Still, who was the guy you said was coming back
Speaker 2: last year? Antonio Brown, I'm still waiting for that sandwich.
Speaker 1: I gave you that sandwich. It's sitting on your desk.
Speaker 1: You haven't been at the office a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: It's probably really smelly. In other news, another guy that
Speaker 1: you know you can make a case for Canton is
Speaker 1: Buccaneers wide receiver Mike Evans, who is you know not
Speaker 1: in the Superstar Club. Some pushback if you do the
Speaker 1: old google Gregy we did last year. I did it
Speaker 1: again this afternoon. Superstar Club. There's just so much there's
Speaker 1: nothing's going on, so everyone's just writing aggregate stories off
Speaker 1: the Superstar Club and Mike Evans not being in. God
Speaker 1: on people's radar, he has nine club he has nine
Speaker 1: straight thank you, one thousand yard receiving seasons. The record
Speaker 1: is Jerry Rice, who did it eleven straight years, and
Speaker 1: he told kPr C that that's what he's trying to do,
Speaker 1: trying to get that Rice record. He was also asked
Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation because Tom Brady's not there anymore,
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans has caught passes for bad quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the past or mid tier quarterbacks in the past. That's
Speaker 1: gonna happen this year because it's Kyle Trask, former second
Speaker 1: round pick who's gotten very little run in his pro
Speaker 1: career so far, and Baker Mayfield, who's basically turned into
Speaker 1: a journeyman. Here is what Evans said about that underwhelming duo.
Speaker 1: Kyle's improved a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm really impressonate what I've seen with Baker. Whoever the
Speaker 2: quarterback will be. You know, I'm positive they're gonna make
Speaker 2: the right choice.
Speaker 1: And you know we're gonna win some games. Are they
Speaker 1: gonna win two games this year? Well, they'll win some.
Speaker 1: It's not really a guarantee. For Mike. You could win
Speaker 1: Sun and go four and thirteen.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like the mildest take hot take possible.
Speaker 2: But I'm shocked that they're predicted by Vegas to have
Speaker 2: the lowest win loss total in that division that they're
Speaker 2: like kind of the heavy favorites to come in last
Speaker 2: I see that division as more like they're all anyone
Speaker 2: could win that division and it wouldn't like the Buccaneers
Speaker 2: might not be that bad. They won the division last year.
Speaker 2: I know it was at eight and nine, but they
Speaker 2: have a pretty good looking defense. They have a good
Speaker 2: trio of wide receivers. Could they win seven or eight
Speaker 2: games again? I could? I could see that. I mean
Speaker 2: the quarterback thing is so ugly that it's hard going
Speaker 2: into the season believing that you're gonna win a lot
Speaker 2: of games. But the rest of the team is as
Speaker 2: good or better than the rest of the division. In
Speaker 2: terms of the roster, it's not a bad roster.
Speaker 1: I mean, the corps is another year older. It's not
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty anymore. Were you like, were you
Speaker 1: overly impressed with the defense under Bowls last year?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I mean, so then you're really asking them to lead
Speaker 1: the way unless you think that Traskan Baker can unlock
Speaker 1: this offense. I would think that maybe Evans and Godwin
Speaker 1: will still eat because they're going to be behind in
Speaker 1: a lot of games and they're going to be throwing
Speaker 1: the ball a lot, so I maybe feel good about
Speaker 1: Evans getting to his tenth straight one thousand yard season
Speaker 1: if he could stay healthy. But I do not have
Speaker 1: a good feeling about this at all. For the.
Speaker 2: I I am genuinely excited about watching like every NFL
Speaker 2: team entering the season. That's why I always say Week
Speaker 2: one is my favorite week, and then they a few
Speaker 2: of them slowly get less interesting as it goes. But
Speaker 2: the bucks are pretty low. And I used to do
Speaker 2: a watchability rankings thing going into the season. The Bucks
Speaker 2: gotta be thirty, thirty one or thirty two in terms
Speaker 2: of like, there's not a lot of intrigue there. In
Speaker 2: terms of exciting Week one teams, I'm ready to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a tough sell. Spinning back real
Speaker 1: quick to the media minute, ESPN made a ton of cuts.
Speaker 1: By the way, you're as a football fan, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a different experience watching pro football coverage. Susie colber
Speaker 1: Keishawn Johnson, Steve Young, Matt Hasselbeck, Todd McShay, their draft guy.
Speaker 1: Among the ESPN dismissals, they you know they've been cutting back.
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse has asked them to really get things under
Speaker 1: control in terms of salaries. So a lot of those
Speaker 1: are big names and and all of them are gone.
Speaker 1: I just want to give a special shout out to
Speaker 1: Susie Colber as a Jets fan, because I I always
Speaker 1: have so much respect for how she handled the Namath
Speaker 1: incident in two thousand and three when Namath was drunk
Speaker 1: on air and you know, went for the kiss, and
Speaker 1: how she knew that he had just buried himself and
Speaker 1: was so kind of sweet and forgiving and you know,
Speaker 1: didn't let him off the hook, but also didn't throw
Speaker 1: Ghastlin on the fire and make things worse for a
Speaker 1: guy that was bottoming out in his life. So shout
Speaker 1: out to Susie Colber. I hope she lands on her feet.
Speaker 1: I hope she lands with NFL media, and I hope
Speaker 1: everybody else does too. It's hard out there in this game, buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not funny. But the reason I put Colbert
Speaker 2: this thing into possibly talking about because it's awkward to
Speaker 2: talk about people losing the jobs. It sucks. We've had
Speaker 2: layoffs this offseason and it sucks. I was Susie Colber
Speaker 2: just because she's she's been there for twenty six, twenty
Speaker 2: seven years. She's a pretty legendary figure. I remember this
Speaker 2: show that when they were like launching ESPN two. It
Speaker 2: was her in More and as a football junkie would
Speaker 2: I would always watch that show. She was great. I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's a it's a weird time in our industry.
Speaker 2: We're just trying to stay afloat.
Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely, and like I said, I hope everybody lands
Speaker 1: on their feet in short order. Juwan Bentley and other
Speaker 1: news linebacker signs a two year extension with the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots, So he's sticking around. Greggy, you're a Bentley guy.
Speaker 1: I just I could tell you're a Bentley guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really well, possibly be in the news rundown.
Speaker 2: Well, I know it was. I said it could be
Speaker 2: a quick one. But I've never been so wrong about
Speaker 2: a guy as Juwan Bentley. What a stiff he was
Speaker 2: for the first couple of years. Another guy that Wes.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of Wes too, because we were like,
Speaker 2: what does Bill Belichick see in this guy? He cannot
Speaker 2: stay on the field and passing downs. He was just
Speaker 2: getting killed, and he stayed, and he stayed, and he's
Speaker 2: gotten better and better, and he had his great best
Speaker 2: season last season. I think he might be a team
Speaker 2: captain until Belichick saw something where we did in this defense,
Speaker 2: it's pretty deep Dan. On paper, it looks pretty good.
Speaker 2: I don't know about building around defense in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: but on paper, it looks pretty good. And Bentley got
Speaker 2: that got that like Patriots. It looks like a good
Speaker 2: deal for the player, but it's really not gonna look
Speaker 2: that good in a year or two type of deal.
Speaker 1: There are people that are using permanent marker to etch
Speaker 1: the Patriots in and last place in the AFC East.
Speaker 1: I am not one of those people. Maybe I'm using
Speaker 1: pencil if I had to do the otder, because eventually
Speaker 1: you can't just say it, you know, you can't just say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know the Patriots, everybody's sleeping on the Patriots. You
Speaker 1: have to then look at how you see things. And
Speaker 1: I do think the Dolphins could be a very good team.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets have the potential will be a
Speaker 1: very good team. I think the Bills obviously are still
Speaker 1: a contender. But would I be stunned if the Pats
Speaker 1: are hanging around five hundred in November and have a
Speaker 1: chance at the playoffs. I wouldn't be there's still too
Speaker 1: much there's too much good there, even if it's no
Speaker 1: longer great or special, as I've brought up in the past,
Speaker 1: Gregy to totally write them off as I'm not saying
Speaker 1: super Bowl contenders, but you know, I think what you're
Speaker 1: alluding to with Mac Jones, who you have as a
Speaker 1: making the leap candidate and defense and a Belichick who's
Speaker 1: you know, got his back up against the wall a
Speaker 1: little bit, Yeah, the Pats could be frisky this year.
Speaker 2: And Belichick's been laying it on thick like Keate. He
Speaker 2: said something in this offseason how he didn't think they
Speaker 2: really had their even though they won the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: in his second year, he didn't think they really became
Speaker 2: who they were until year four of a program and
Speaker 2: that's when they and I kind of agree as a
Speaker 2: Patriots fan that that was the first real great Patriots
Speaker 2: team two thousand and three. And people thought he threw
Speaker 2: that out there now as if this is like year
Speaker 2: four of the post Brady program, that he's had his
Speaker 2: time to set it all up and now this is
Speaker 2: where it all pays off.
Speaker 1: Eric from behind the virtual glasses Lawrence Taylor won in
Speaker 1: eighty six last defensive Player of the Year. Eric Dickerson
Speaker 1: came in second that year. Eric, can you jump in
Speaker 1: real quick?
Speaker 2: I mean, and by the way LT fans out there's like,
Speaker 2: how could you say, jaj you wat's the best defensive player?
Speaker 1: Earl?
Speaker 2: It was a LT of course. Well, like by everything
Speaker 2: I heard, that's absolutely true. I'm sure he was the best.
Speaker 2: I was like, seven, how can I possibly say that
Speaker 2: he was better? I'm saying based than what we saw,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Greg. I yeah, just that was on my
Speaker 2: mind ever since.
Speaker 1: Yet It's okay, It's okay. It's your first show back.
Speaker 1: Your your hot is a pistol and I like it.
Speaker 2: Eric.
Speaker 1: Just want to let you know you obviously are doing
Speaker 1: a great job so far in the producer chair. Last
Speaker 1: week I caught some I caught some heat on Twitter
Speaker 1: from Bills fans because I said in a conversation that
Speaker 1: they had not gotten to the AFC title game under
Speaker 1: McDermott yet, right, apparently they did. You are the biggest
Speaker 1: Bills fan.
Speaker 3: I know you know I saw that too, but I
Speaker 3: understood what you said. As he said, get back to
Speaker 3: they hadn't been the haven't been in two years.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I very clearly. Yeah, I okay, misunderstanding there.
Speaker 1: I clearly said that they hadn't made it to the
Speaker 1: AFC TWN game yet, but they got beaten in twenty twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was checking in the case, Eric, you had
Speaker 1: heard it, but you didn't want to jump in when
Speaker 1: there's an egregious era like that, please Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, yeah I did.
Speaker 3: I thought I saw the comments too, and I thought
Speaker 3: it was I understood it as because you you stopped
Speaker 3: and you're like, this is weird because we're saying get
Speaker 3: back to or get to It's like, right, they haven't
Speaker 3: been David. Yeah, they got you know, ousted early the
Speaker 3: last two years. So yeah, but yeah, that's the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty year. I block it off for my memory anyways,
Speaker 3: that it.
Speaker 2: Was also COVID. The Bills kind of didn't really show
Speaker 2: up for that game. I know they scored some points,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't particularly competitive, So I don't. I think
Speaker 2: it's fine to forget that game.
Speaker 1: Before you disappear. Eric. All I need is a record
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills twenty and twenty three final regular season record,
Speaker 1: Uh need it? Gotta have it.
Speaker 2: Eleven seven eleven six. I mean that you can't even Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's just okay, number run. If it's eleven and seven
Speaker 2: they lose their first game of the play. It's a
Speaker 2: rough prediction here.
Speaker 1: Well on the spot eleven wins. Mark Sessler believes nine
Speaker 1: wins can win the AFC East, So you know that
Speaker 1: might be. It could be plenty of breathing room.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, let's talk after Week one Monday Night.
Speaker 3: Let's see how everybody I have talked about it. It's
Speaker 3: like that first week it's it's gonna be sky's falling
Speaker 3: for one half. How good is the other half? And
Speaker 3: it's gonna be by about Tuesday afternoon, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: Like, how about this, Greggy, your favorite week of the year?
Speaker 1: Week one, Monday Night football Bills It Jets Alan v. Rodgers.
Speaker 1: That's a football game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. So glad they're not doing the doubleheader
Speaker 2: in Week one this year. It's just just that game.
Speaker 2: We might have to do a special you know, full
Speaker 2: team Hans, this Eric, everyone involved. Monday Night recap not
Speaker 2: not even wait for Tuesday.
Speaker 1: The talking hens are already salivating. Man.
Speaker 3: A couple of picks on either side, Rogers or Allen,
Speaker 3: somebody made me throws one late I don't know, two
Speaker 3: minute drill and screws over the team.
Speaker 1: Yah. Listen, there are a lot of outcomes. One of
Speaker 1: those fan bases being in a panic feels right come Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But we have a few weeks still till we get there.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then we'll get patriotic. All right,
Speaker 1: Listen to that. That's one of those famous songs. It's
Speaker 1: the Yankee Doodle Dandy. Now it's what is that one?
Speaker 1: D dun? Don you know, don't do a dismissive shrug
Speaker 1: of your shoulders just because you're in Japan.
Speaker 2: I just don't know the name of the song. So
Speaker 2: I'm just hoping you fill it in for me. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the song. We have another job at.
Speaker 2: The fourth of July parade, that's the song.
Speaker 1: Yes. Independence Day is upon us, a federal holiday in
Speaker 1: the United States, commemorating the Declaration of Independence, which was
Speaker 1: ratified by the Second Continental Congress on July fourth, seventeen
Speaker 1: seventy six, establishing formerly the United States of America England.
Speaker 1: You can't have us no more. And that's a good
Speaker 1: job by the founding fathers. Now. So there's there's the
Speaker 1: patriotism on fourth.
Speaker 2: Zip, very anti UK edition of the show.
Speaker 1: I like it that that portion. Yes, I mean, there
Speaker 1: is a naughty history, but the Americans and the English
Speaker 1: have become great allies in many ways ever since. So
Speaker 1: that's the that's that's good. The US and Japan also
Speaker 1: very good place these days.
Speaker 2: Not always case.
Speaker 1: We are in a good place because because this game
Speaker 1: of pro football, Greg ee oh Man, does it stir
Speaker 1: the emotions, the pride patriotism.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't even know where to start here.
Speaker 2: I have so many options. Actually, let's start with like
Speaker 2: a holiday, because because that's that's patriotic, and so that
Speaker 2: was the first thing I thought of when I thought
Speaker 2: of Fourth of julyfe was another holiday.
Speaker 1: And the idea of patriotism, it's it's devotion to and
Speaker 1: vigorous support for one's own country. In this case, for
Speaker 1: this segment, we're referring to Football World, Land of Football, right,
Speaker 1: That's what we're That's what this is basically, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well just football. I mean, let's be real, okay, I look,
Speaker 2: being overly patriotic, that's almost a US stereotype. People people
Speaker 2: think the the Americans are a little too uh, too patriotic,
Speaker 2: little too jinguistic. Why all these flags every year? But
Speaker 2: you can have pride in your country. I'm sure every
Speaker 2: country has pride in the country. And you know, American
Speaker 2: football is kind of our sport. I know, baseball blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, America's pastime, but like that's everywhere else. Like
Speaker 2: this is the thing that we do America the best.
Speaker 2: We are essentially the only it's dominant, And so I
Speaker 2: think it's okay to I'm saying it's okay to be
Speaker 2: a little prideful of American football because it is pretty
Speaker 2: uniquely American. And it makes me think of Thanksgiving, which is,
Speaker 2: to me, a uniquely American holiday. And that was the
Speaker 2: first thing I thought about when just feeling patriotic. Give me,
Speaker 2: here's what I'm feeling patriotic for and looking forward to
Speaker 2: give me a little nine to thirty am West Coast
Speaker 2: kickoff on Thanksgiving. To me, that is America. I don't
Speaker 2: need to cook the bird. We're gonna go pick it up.
Speaker 2: It's open at eight am over at the at the
Speaker 2: place that cooks it for us. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: pick it up at eight thirty am. I'm gonna bring
Speaker 2: my son. We're gonna have some muff line, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna drive back, and we're gonna get back in time
Speaker 2: to see the new America's team, Detroit Lions kickoff at
Speaker 2: nine thirty am. You wanted them out of Thanksgiving for years.
Speaker 2: Now it's come around and it's great that they've kept it.
Speaker 2: And I do I do love me a nine to
Speaker 2: thirty am West Coast kickoff on Thanksgiving. I just love
Speaker 2: ten am kickoffs every week, so that's I'm patriotic for
Speaker 2: that too. I just love an all day ten am
Speaker 2: on the West Coast. I know East Coasters aren't aren't
Speaker 2: really vibing with this, but that to me is as
Speaker 2: American as it gets.
Speaker 1: Full day of football that I always found, having lived,
Speaker 1: you know, nearly thirty years on the East Coast and
Speaker 1: now here, you know, twelve thirteen years on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: that twelve thirty kickoff, that's the only game you and
Speaker 1: it was always the Lions that you're you're feeling like,
Speaker 1: all right, I can watch this game. I know, I
Speaker 1: got a I got a polish furniture. I gotta do this.
Speaker 1: Got to bring the chairs up from downstairs. I have
Speaker 1: to help out. I have to run to the store
Speaker 1: for mom. I got to do this. But I could
Speaker 1: watch that twelve thirty because the company's not coming over
Speaker 1: till four. And then it got always got very murky.
Speaker 1: That middle game was the Cowboy Game. I've missed it
Speaker 1: so many times over the years because it's right in
Speaker 1: the heart of Thanksgiving. And now the late game. Actually
Speaker 1: it's popped up obviously in the last decade or so.
Speaker 1: That's a better one. That's a great spot because it's
Speaker 1: like when you're settled after the long day here on
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Yeah, that morning game that really kind
Speaker 1: of kicks you into things. And then you also get
Speaker 1: the Cowboy game before your company comes over. And then
Speaker 1: I say, Greg, they just like get ahead of this
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, you cook the bird one year,
Speaker 1: just do it like it's nice. You know what I do?
Speaker 1: You know what the zeuser does. I have an air
Speaker 1: fryer outside and I put the turkey in there. It
Speaker 1: takes like six hours or something to cook. And I
Speaker 1: got the TV set up and I'm watching football and
Speaker 1: checking in on the temperature of the bird every half
Speaker 1: hour or so. You know, hanging out with friends and family,
Speaker 1: and it's a very nice thing to do. It's a
Speaker 1: nice little combo platter.
Speaker 2: I mean, Emmica's making some pies, she's making some sides.
Speaker 2: But now I'm not doing any challenge yourself to only
Speaker 2: one life. You're right, I will get through this just
Speaker 2: once about ever kicking. Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm patriotic about.
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Oh do you want to sit? No, you have anything
Speaker 1: else you want to add on that? Because I do agree.
Speaker 2: That's a good job. That's good. That's it.
Speaker 1: I am patriotic about an anniversary, the anniversary of the
Speaker 1: dumbest thing that's ever happened in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm filled with such pride thinking back to what happened
Speaker 1: twenty years ago this October. I'm gonna read the article
Speaker 1: from Len Pascarelli, headline Punter out this week com a
Speaker 1: maybe season lead. When rookie coach Jack del Rio placed
Speaker 1: a stump of oak in an axe in the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars locker room a few weeks ago as the motivational
Speaker 1: technique symbolic of his theme to quote keep chopping wood.
Speaker 1: It was viewed as a sophomore technique by some veterans now,
Speaker 1: the move is likely to be regarded as a huge mistake.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars on Thursday lost Pro Bowl punter Chris Hansen
Speaker 1: for an undetermined amount of time. ESPN dot Com has
Speaker 1: learned that he will be sidelined four to six weeks
Speaker 1: and could well miss the balance of the season. When
Speaker 1: the fourth year veteran was accidentally gashed on his right
Speaker 1: non kicking foot while wielding the acts taken to the
Speaker 1: hospital for a gash in his foot. I don't think
Speaker 1: he returned Greg twenty years ago that happened. I was
Speaker 1: thinking there have been crazy stories in the Aten era.
Speaker 1: This is a very bad memory around this time of year.
Speaker 1: But I remember being in the newsroom in July when
Speaker 1: we learned that, and we're getting the details of Jason
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul's fireworks accident that cost him a part of
Speaker 1: his hand.
Speaker 2: That was precat.
Speaker 1: Everybody out there, do not do the fireworks thing this week.
Speaker 1: Just don't. It's not worth it. They're not that cool.
Speaker 1: Goes somewhere where they do it, and they know what
Speaker 1: they're do doing. That was a terrible, stunning, crazy story.
Speaker 1: This one is more under the side of coaches folly
Speaker 1: and Jack del Rio, who had some choice words about
Speaker 1: the insurrection years later, maybe not totally studying it was
Speaker 1: him that was behind it all.
Speaker 2: That you would think this would have really hurt del
Speaker 2: Rio's career, like this feels like a borderline fireable offense.
Speaker 2: But he was around in Jacksonville for a while longer,
Speaker 2: got another head coaching job. Still is the defensive coordinator?
Speaker 2: I had the check. I was like, is he still
Speaker 2: the commander's coordinator because they've kind of been.
Speaker 1: Feel like he's definitely still very active.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still there. That was amazing. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of like if Twitter was around, type of stories that
Speaker 2: you wonder how it would be covered, and that that
Speaker 2: is high on the list.
Speaker 1: When we're at the end of the story here, Greg,
Speaker 1: I have so much patriotism about this.
Speaker 2: It is uniquely American lead dumb.
Speaker 1: The accident apparently occurred during a team meeting that the
Speaker 1: Kickers were not mandated to attend. There's your mistake right there.
Speaker 1: You left the kickers to their own devices. Not surprisingly,
Speaker 1: the axe was removed from the locker room Thursday afternoon,
Speaker 1: and the tree stump will soon be gone as well.
Speaker 1: It was somewhat surprising, according to Pascarelli, the franchise officials
Speaker 1: and the league would permit the tree stump and the
Speaker 1: acts given the potential for the kind of incident that
Speaker 1: transpired Thursday. The stump had garnered plenty of media attention.
Speaker 1: Final quote from Jack del Rio, who was sympathetic to
Speaker 1: the insurrection, I'll find another slogan. The message was understood.
Speaker 1: The thing was on its way out soon, but not
Speaker 1: soon enough. It was symbolic more than anything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't really back off, he said. The slogan'll
Speaker 2: live on. He didn't back off. I love Lehen Pascarelli
Speaker 2: tries to blame the league on it, that they allowed it.
Speaker 2: What they heard some talk about the stump, and they
Speaker 2: were going to make a rule about it. All right,
Speaker 2: you're up, all right, let's go bigger picture. Let's stuck Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I actually am feeling patriotic about the Cowboys. I'm just glad.
Speaker 2: To me, they're the America's team for a reason. They're
Speaker 2: just the biggest, dumbest, funnest team. I'm glad they exist.
Speaker 2: I'm not a Cowboys fan. There was that great book,
Speaker 2: Billy Lynn's Halftime Walk, which I really recommend. You're looking
Speaker 2: something to Read is kind of a football book, kind
Speaker 2: of not. It's sort of critical of what a team
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys mean to America and everything like that.
Speaker 2: And so Cowboys are America. They're everything bad, they're everything good.
Speaker 2: But like, damn it if Jerry Jones hasn't like accomplished
Speaker 2: what he wanted, which is they are the biggest show
Speaker 2: in town. They are bigger and dumber. They are the show.
Speaker 2: They are the team that everyone wants to watch like
Speaker 2: they are America and Bomani. Jones says it a lot
Speaker 2: when he goes to a Cowboys game. He says, you
Speaker 2: want to see America, go to the Cowboys parking lot.
Speaker 2: That is true diversity. There is everything in a Cowboys
Speaker 2: There's Hispanic, black, white, everything. There's high income, there's low income,
Speaker 2: like there is every different types of fan. Everyone's a
Speaker 2: Cowboys fan. That's in Texas and really all around the country.
Speaker 2: And uh, there's a lot that's wrong with them, but
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad they're there. They are American to me.
Speaker 2: That's the feeling patriotic about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Great one. And you know, Jerry Jones doesn't have a spotless,
Speaker 1: you know record when it comes to you know, things
Speaker 1: that he's done in his past. But I have to
Speaker 1: say Jerah, as an owner and as the guy that
Speaker 1: that really stokes the fire of that organization, I appreciate
Speaker 1: him as he enters his uh he's in his early
Speaker 1: eighties now, and he will be his presence will be
Speaker 1: missed when he's gone. And I think about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and as a Yankees fan, like people hate the Yankees
Speaker 1: just like they hate the Cowboys, and that's good. It's
Speaker 1: good to have that team that that is very popular,
Speaker 1: that has a lot of success in their past, but
Speaker 1: then when they lose, you get this huge You have
Speaker 1: the you know, this segment of diehards that support that team,
Speaker 1: but then everyone else can celebrate that team failing. And
Speaker 1: the Yankees are that in baseball and the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: that in football. And I thought it was actually kind
Speaker 1: of interesting when I was doing Superstar Club, when I'm
Speaker 1: kind of stuck on a player, every year, I'll send
Speaker 1: out a tweet like is this guy a Superstar? And
Speaker 1: one of them I did was for Ceed Lamb, who
Speaker 1: I think got it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you wouldn't know it was. It was all anonymous,
Speaker 2: but I did fill out that one I said, oh,
Speaker 2: what did you say for the record, I said, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: So Ceedee Lamb I and I put him in. But
Speaker 1: when ten thousand people responded, eighty percent said no. And
Speaker 1: it's not because they were like judging Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 1: not a true superstar. It's because they hate the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and they don't want to They don't want Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: to be successful because Cede Lamb having great success means
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are back on top. And I think it's
Speaker 1: just fun to have that team that everyone hates. It's
Speaker 1: so important and the Cowboys are that and I hope
Speaker 1: it is that way after Jerry's gone, because after George
Speaker 1: Steinberner left the Yankees when he passed away, the Yankees
Speaker 1: don't have that same kind of excitement around them in
Speaker 1: terms of how they're run and just the juice around them.
Speaker 1: And Jerah, for the lack of Super Bowl rings in
Speaker 1: the last quarter century, they've remained relevant and exciting and
Speaker 1: a team worth talking about. And he has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with that.
Speaker 2: So I mean, he's got to be apparently the subject
Speaker 2: of a ten bart Netflix series. They've paid fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars too. I'm feeling patriotic for NFL Films too, still
Speaker 2: getting it done. NFL Films has made this or in
Speaker 2: the middle of this documentary. It's apparently mostly about the
Speaker 2: nineties Cowboys, not so much about Jerry, But maybe it's
Speaker 2: kind of focused on Jerry and about the nineties Cowboys
Speaker 2: and everything that went on. It sounds pretty fascinating. But
Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to keep it going because
Speaker 2: even though Jerry's gone, it'll be in his family, I
Speaker 2: assume in Stephen Jones will be running. There's no greater
Speaker 2: proof that they're going to stay around forever than if
Speaker 2: you live through the Quincy Carter era when they didn't
Speaker 2: have quarterbacks, because they were still a big deal. Then
Speaker 2: if you remember that they still felt like big games.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was annoying that they were always on
Speaker 2: and stuff, but they were still kind of a big
Speaker 2: deal even with Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can tell you Stephen Jones is not
Speaker 1: gonna generate headlines like Jara did, just like House LiLine,
Speaker 1: Runner doesn't do it the way George did. He is
Speaker 1: in a class of his own in that sense. It
Speaker 1: would help if they could, like, you know, get another
Speaker 1: ring though, it's you kind of have to have that
Speaker 1: success too to stay in that in that realm. And
Speaker 1: it's been a while now, so maybe this will be
Speaker 1: the year for the Cowboys. You also have the The
Speaker 1: Quarterback series on Netflix that's gone out soon. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that text of years. You said it
Speaker 2: looked you thought it looked great. I'm gonna be I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wait and see. We'll see how this thingks.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna you're gonna gobble it.
Speaker 2: Up, Grant, I'll watch it right away. It's just like
Speaker 2: I want want to snort it. I watched this at Netflix,
Speaker 2: you know, tennis series Breakpoint too, and like you would
Speaker 2: think that would be catnep for me, but it was
Speaker 2: kind of disappointing.
Speaker 1: And then and now that you got my mind thinking
Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones documentary, let's let let's let HBO handle
Speaker 1: that it's doing about ten years or so and get
Speaker 1: it right. Let's make it a two parter and just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that it's NFL Films is it'll be great.
Speaker 2: But it'll be a different documentary than.
Speaker 1: If it was by a different you know, right, Robert Kraft.
Speaker 2: It'll be really great, but it'll be it'll be different.
Speaker 1: The Robert Kraft probably has a say in this conversation,
Speaker 1: but Jones is probably the most powerful figure in the NFL,
Speaker 1: right at least amongst the ownership, and maybe even including
Speaker 1: Goodell and the owners, right, I mean, and the rest
Speaker 1: of the front office. So he's gonna have his fingertips
Speaker 1: on anything that comes out safe to say, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm patriotic about. Holy God, Year four Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: Holy God built up the old Pro Football Reference. Here
Speaker 1: is the production for Justin Jefferson, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of, Greg, but football
Speaker 1: is an incredibly punishing, physical game.
Speaker 2: I've heard that, I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has never missed a game in three years.
Speaker 1: Fifty games. Catches by a year eighty eight one o
Speaker 1: eight one twenty eight yards fourteen hundred sixteen sixteen eighteen
Speaker 1: oh nine yards per game, eighty seven and a half
Speaker 1: ninety five one oh six point four Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: second place, second Team All proh second Team All Pro,
Speaker 1: First Team, All Pro Offensive Player of the Year. Then
Speaker 1: I looked at Randy Moss, who, in my lifetime is
Speaker 1: the greatest receiver that I ever saw in terms of dominance. Okay,
Speaker 1: and yes, sure enough in a very different world. In
Speaker 1: the NFL ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, he immediately
Speaker 1: just blew the doors off the league. Finished in the
Speaker 1: top three in MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Top
Speaker 1: five twice Rookie of the Year. Of course, what made
Speaker 1: Moss different is his ability to find the end zone
Speaker 1: as well, because he was just unbelievable on deep balls.
Speaker 1: He had seventeen, eleven and fifteen touchdowns his first three years.
Speaker 1: So while the rest of his numbers aren't quite at
Speaker 1: the heights of Jefferson, you have to keep in mind
Speaker 1: the air he played in and then look at the
Speaker 1: finding the end zone the way it Moss did. So
Speaker 1: I think Moss kind of changed the league fundam mentally,
Speaker 1: or kind of stood out a little bit more than
Speaker 1: Jefferson Rice. I wasn't there for his first peak, nor
Speaker 1: were you, Greg in the mid to late eighties, but
Speaker 1: he had a second peak in the mid nineties where
Speaker 1: he was just unstoppable. But he was, you know, gifted
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and once he learned the game,
Speaker 1: when he lost speed, he made up for in other ways,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. The way I look at Jefferson is different,
Speaker 1: and also just because he's just the way he explodes
Speaker 1: off the screen when you watch him. So as he
Speaker 1: enters now his age twenty four season. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people are down on the vikings this year.
Speaker 1: I understand it, and they went thirteen and four, but
Speaker 1: they weren't a truth thirteen and four. We all know that.
Speaker 1: I think they're still going to score points, and I
Speaker 1: think Jefferson has a chance to almost impossibly get better
Speaker 1: in year four because he's done that every year of
Speaker 1: his career so far.
Speaker 2: That's a fun one. I I picked up a fantasy
Speaker 2: sports magazine on the way here for Walker at the airport.
Speaker 2: That's That's one thing. It is on the my long
Speaker 2: list of things I'm feeling patriotic for. I love those
Speaker 2: those early fantasy.
Speaker 1: Magazines are just they're still pumping them out.
Speaker 2: Still pumping them out at the especially the early ones
Speaker 2: that come out. You're you just you want to see
Speaker 2: some rankings, you want to do. You start making your list.
Speaker 2: Walker wants to do that, and we were talking about
Speaker 2: who to take with number one. There's McCaffrey and blah.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't know, man, Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 2: if you're in that top top area there, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna feel good. You just know it's gonna work. In
Speaker 2: a PPR league, you know it's gonna work. You know
Speaker 2: that's not going down. And I think even in a
Speaker 2: real football setting, I think i'd take him over to
Speaker 2: everyone as good as the top of the top receivers
Speaker 2: are right now, I think I think you're right to
Speaker 2: feel patriotic. I think he's You're good to take him
Speaker 2: over everyone, And I think he's got the right He
Speaker 2: doesn't have the right quarterback, not that Cousin's a bad
Speaker 2: quarterback for him to be, he could have a better one.
Speaker 2: But I do think he's in the right offense and
Speaker 2: the right coach that's gonna keep just feeding him and
Speaker 2: finding ways to.
Speaker 1: Get him the ball. Yes, Kevin O'Connell will know what
Speaker 1: he needs to do. And it might be the last
Speaker 1: year of Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson, but whoever they
Speaker 1: bring in next is just gonna have such a huge advantage.
Speaker 1: As long as you keep Jefferson happy and get him
Speaker 1: under a long term deal, he's gonna make quarterbacks better
Speaker 1: for his entire career.
Speaker 2: You're up, Greg, I mean, but yeah, those you know,
Speaker 2: fantasy bags. It's just like you're at the point of
Speaker 2: the offseason where it's like, I'm ready to start turning
Speaker 2: the page. I've had enough of this summer. Let's start.
Speaker 2: Let's start making some rankings. Love those so many big
Speaker 2: picture ones I'm going to go with just like running
Speaker 2: quarterbacks right now, I'm just feeling patriotic about running quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: These are some of the greatest athletes of the world.
Speaker 2: I could combine this and just say I'm feeling patriotic
Speaker 2: about NFL athletes. Show me a freaking Miles Garrett in
Speaker 2: another sport, by the way, or a DeMarcus Lawrence, or
Speaker 2: like a DeForest Buckner. I would argue that, like the
Speaker 2: best NFL athletes are just the best athletes, the most
Speaker 2: impressive athletes, and they don't really exist.
Speaker 1: Greg I wrote about eight Lebron James playing tight end
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys stories on NFL dot Com in the
Speaker 1: mid two thousands.
Speaker 2: NBA's close, but they're not like two hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five or two hundred and ninety pounds moving that fast
Speaker 2: and that big. Maybe A couple of them are, but
Speaker 2: not many. A Yiannis type is. But to drill down beyond,
Speaker 2: just like specimen and athleticism, I'm patriotic about running quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: This is this is the league I wanted to see
Speaker 2: for so long. It really has changed. I think we
Speaker 2: almost take it for granted because it happens slowly. But
Speaker 2: right now we got Lamar, we got Josh Allen, we
Speaker 2: got Jalen Hurts, we got Justin Fields, we got Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson coming in. We got Daniel Jones lighting it up,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and Kyler and Herbert. You almost don't even
Speaker 2: think as a running quarterback and Burrow, but they have
Speaker 2: a ton of rushing value. They really don't make pocket
Speaker 2: quarterbacks anymore. I went back dan and looked at the
Speaker 2: QBR rankings because they have a rushing value list back
Speaker 2: about fifteen years ago, one year two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: there was one quarterback who was above a ten in
Speaker 2: rushing QBR that year, and it was Aaron Rodgers. Right
Speaker 2: now we have eleven of those quarterbacks, eleven versus one.
Speaker 2: One year, David Garrard led the league. David Garrard and
Speaker 2: a number around that. Gino Smith had in rushing value.
Speaker 2: Literally there was a year like not that long ago
Speaker 2: where no quarterbacks had rushing value. And then you even
Speaker 2: look at the top shelf guys like Vic and Cam
Speaker 2: Newton who were always exciting, but they were outliers even
Speaker 2: compared to those guys the very top of the top,
Speaker 2: which is basically Alan Hurts Fields in terms of his
Speaker 2: running and Lamar you know when he's healthy, like those
Speaker 2: guys are even at another level just in terms of
Speaker 2: the volume, even compared to Cam and Vick. So the
Speaker 2: league changed. They don't really have pocket quarterbacks anywhere. They
Speaker 2: have some Kirk Cousins types, but they're not coming into
Speaker 2: the league. So I'm feeling patriotic like that the league.
Speaker 2: We wanted to see where the league kind of met
Speaker 2: the best athletes where they were is happening.
Speaker 1: It's happened. Yeah, And you could do an entire, you know,
Speaker 1: sociology class course about the evolution of the running quarterback
Speaker 1: and what took so long?
Speaker 2: And and.
Speaker 1: You look at Randall Cunningham as an example, at least
Speaker 1: in our lifetimes, he was the first example of the
Speaker 1: guy that could do that, and every he blew everybody's mind,
Speaker 1: and he was a huge star, even if it didn't
Speaker 1: last too long. Then he reserviced with the Vikings kind
Speaker 1: of forget about that years later, not as a that
Speaker 1: known as that super athlete and then tore the league
Speaker 1: apart as a.
Speaker 2: Mostly pocket pass should have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the great teams that never won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, those ninety eight Vikings with Randy Moss as
Speaker 1: a rookie tinner all together. But and then you had
Speaker 1: him looking at it, and Steve McNair came along, and
Speaker 1: Aaron McNair. He moved the ball with his legs. He
Speaker 1: won an MVP with Peyton Manning two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: But you know, then it's kind of quiet. Then Vic
Speaker 1: shows up and Vic kind of lights the league on fire.
Speaker 1: But we still haven't had a true revolution. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it was just.
Speaker 2: Like one out of time. It was like one out
Speaker 2: of time though, that's what.
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you would think it's not like there
Speaker 1: wasn't these flashpoint moments where it would have happened. And
Speaker 1: I think that also you can look at it. What
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many layers to it, including how
Speaker 1: college was developing these guys and letting athletes play quarterback
Speaker 1: and play like athletes, not just passers. That it wasn't
Speaker 1: really I feel like until around Cam who was first
Speaker 1: overall in twenty eleven, where you finally got like a
Speaker 1: steady trickle, And now I feel like the faucet has
Speaker 1: just turned on. And most of these guys are coming
Speaker 1: out of the league with this dual threat capability, and
Speaker 1: it's just like it makes sense. It makes it makes
Speaker 1: a team so much harder to defend when you have
Speaker 1: that quarterback can do it all and he'll be justin
Speaker 1: Fields is like that before he got hurt at the
Speaker 1: end of last season. May me a more exciting player
Speaker 1: to watch in the league than Fields in November last year.
Speaker 2: Right, And even the guys like I was surprised when
Speaker 2: I looked at the QBR rushing value, guys like Mahomes
Speaker 2: and Burrough who you don't think of as runners, are
Speaker 2: still running so much more. The russ RG three luckier actually,
Speaker 2: you know, had a chance to really inject a lot
Speaker 2: of athleticism, and they ranked pretty high, especially early in
Speaker 2: this greup. People forget Russell Wilson had a couple of
Speaker 2: really good rushing years, but they didn't build offenses around
Speaker 2: those guys as rushing they were just efficient running when
Speaker 2: they needed to other than RG three, and now now
Speaker 2: it's just a huge part of these offenses and it
Speaker 2: make it makes a lot more fun to watch. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm feeling patiotic.
Speaker 1: And RG three is twenty ten right before Cam, so
Speaker 1: maybe RG three is another way to look at it.
Speaker 1: When the oh no, he's twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Wilson, with Tannahill, that's right, that's how that's
Speaker 2: how old Tannahill is is that Like, I guess it's
Speaker 2: luck in RG three retiring so early makes him feel older,
Speaker 2: but he was in that class.
Speaker 1: I will never forget being in the newsroom on opening
Speaker 1: day twenty twelve against the Saints when RG three scrambled out,
Speaker 1: turned the corner and then just went down the sideline
Speaker 1: I think untouched for like seventy yards or something. It
Speaker 1: was insane and it was like, holy god, that guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a forty thirty two went over the Saints.
Speaker 1: It was a huge upset, and you know it was
Speaker 1: just like this guy has speed, like it's hard to believe. Interesting,
Speaker 1: good one, Greg. I wish RG three stayed healthy. That
Speaker 1: would have been it was an interesting one of the
Speaker 1: great what ifs in this particular conversation of these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: is what if RG three stayed healthy? I mean, his
Speaker 1: season is twenty twelve rookie season was pretty badass all
Speaker 1: the way around. Remember he looked to me boys on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: I did a weekly column QB Index, where the whole
Speaker 2: point of the column was I just watched the coaches
Speaker 2: film of the rookies every game that year and rank
Speaker 2: them based on the week and then based on the season.
Speaker 2: And as good as Andrew Luck was that year, and
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson for that matter, RG three was the guy
Speaker 2: I put at the top at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: He had the best season of those three.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what do I want to talk
Speaker 1: about now?
Speaker 2: You can go quick.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I got a couple of things to
Speaker 1: get I'm patriotic about. Like I said, this is the
Speaker 1: one time of year the NFL hasn't cracked yet, so
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of pride in patriotism about the late June early July
Speaker 1: news cycle. Superstar clubs all over NFL websites across the
Speaker 1: world right now. But I want to put my focus
Speaker 1: on Chris Jones chief star who woke up, picked up
Speaker 1: his phone and just typed four words in an acronym.
Speaker 1: I'll win dpo Y this year hits end and he
Speaker 1: was on every NFL and sports website in the world
Speaker 1: for that one tweet. And I just wanted to give
Speaker 1: a shout out for the power even though he who
Speaker 1: wrote it, Oh my god, it was so good. I
Speaker 1: think it was Rohato Pat. Yeah, Rhoda Pat's the best.
Speaker 1: You know, he got Elon Musk what he's doing with
Speaker 1: Twitter now, with the limits and everything road Pats tweet
Speaker 1: and then Comma for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Comma, he
Speaker 1: imperiled his industrial empire while crashing the great communications platform
Speaker 1: of the twenty first century. That's a good job about you,
Speaker 1: Patrick Darty.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Jone's keeping it alive. Though.
Speaker 1: Joe just like throws out a tweet and it blows
Speaker 1: up and he could win defens Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: He wants some money too, you like, get paid for it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that will get him a new contract if he
Speaker 1: wants DPOY. But a shout out for being able to
Speaker 1: just write four words in an acronym and be the
Speaker 1: biggest NFL story for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the time to do it if you
Speaker 2: want attention, Like this would be my strategy as a
Speaker 2: social media coordinator or like a publicist like go big.
Speaker 2: Doing something at this time of year positive. Unfortunately, at
Speaker 2: this time of year, it's always often negative stories. But
Speaker 2: this Chris Jones calling a shot is a positive story.
Speaker 2: I do worry a little bit. He's coming off a
Speaker 2: career year. I would say, I mean, he's had a
Speaker 2: great career. He actually is going to get some Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame consideration if he keeps this up at this pace,
Speaker 2: the way he's been going. But I would say last
Speaker 2: year was the best year of his career. So Kenny
Speaker 2: top that.
Speaker 1: One last addendum to this. In his replies, someone wrote
Speaker 1: you might need damn near twenty of them thang referring
Speaker 1: to I believe Sacks. And then Chris Jones once again,
Speaker 1: you know, very spartan in his choice in his wording,
Speaker 1: because you know, again you don't need to write a
Speaker 1: lot here, just enough his response Okay, I mean it
Speaker 1: could have been because I don't know how he said it,
Speaker 1: like if there was an inflection, it could have been
Speaker 1: like okay, or it could have been like okay, like
Speaker 1: being a jerk about it, or Okay, he's gonna I.
Speaker 2: Think I think that's an okay, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I think it's okay. Yeah, that's what's.
Speaker 1: All right. I got one more, Greg, so I know
Speaker 1: you probably have four hundred more.
Speaker 2: No, I got too many. I could go fast, but
Speaker 2: I got two. I like left, but I'll do that.
Speaker 2: I'll do a speed around here. Number one. Shout out
Speaker 2: to the Zone out here in Japan. Game passes just
Speaker 2: on the zone, the zones showing up live games all
Speaker 2: over the world. I didn't know about that, you know
Speaker 2: de Zone at home da z n oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that.
Speaker 2: I mean we got to hear you can watch the
Speaker 2: Tokyo Swallows.
Speaker 1: MMA.
Speaker 2: But here you can watch you know, are the local
Speaker 2: baseball team. But Walker noticed, like we got NFL network
Speaker 2: over here on de zone and we got game pass
Speaker 2: and that I googled it. It's it's all over the
Speaker 2: world on de Zone. You can you can have a game.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that was like a nice job by Dezone.
Speaker 2: You can watch some live football over here in Japan.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good job by you.
Speaker 2: The Bucks Cannons. I like the cannons that they fire off.
Speaker 2: That's good. Uh. I like that Madden is still going
Speaker 2: so strong. Walker getting a lot of airtime today, but
Speaker 2: he's addicted to the video game Madden. Now, it's like
Speaker 2: it's still going strong. Shout out to the Bosa brothers.
Speaker 2: Famously bad in interviews. Not a fan of their politics.
Speaker 2: Like there's few people in the NFL I'd want to
Speaker 2: hang out with less than the Bosa brothers, But we
Speaker 2: never talk about them. How about delivering? Just watching them,
Speaker 2: Like Kyle Shannan says, Nick Bosa is maybe one of
Speaker 2: the smartest players he's ever come across. These are top
Speaker 2: five picks. Cute, he was serious, but in terms of
Speaker 2: like their hand usage and power and like if you're
Speaker 2: into that, like they deliver. They were top five picks
Speaker 2: who are absolutely studs from the minute they enter the league.
Speaker 2: Joey's got to stay healthy, but like they look like
Speaker 2: they're going to go with a power move and they
Speaker 2: swipe like they are technicians. So shout out to the
Speaker 2: Bosa but they just seem very American.
Speaker 1: Where was Nick where they needed to stop twenty seven
Speaker 1: nothing though?
Speaker 2: Or Joey should I mean, he's one that was nick
Speaker 2: one one player. But I mean Joey, by the way,
Speaker 2: is kind of a Sammy Watkins All Star right now.
Speaker 2: Drafted in twenty sixteen, He's only twenty seven years old
Speaker 2: as of this taping. Somehow, Joey Bosa is only twenty seven.
Speaker 1: No, Joey's is only going to get to stop with
Speaker 1: the rest of his teammates twenty seven nothing.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, Yeah, I'm an idiot. I thought you
Speaker 2: were talking about the NFC Championship game. Was it's to
Speaker 2: twenty seven?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 2: I think Joey was hurt for that game. He missed
Speaker 2: most of the last season. You gotta stay healthy, Joey.
Speaker 2: But those are great football play If I'm gonna finish
Speaker 2: with a larger point, all right, football, the dichotomy of football, Dan,
Speaker 2: I'll try to make this quick.
Speaker 1: Now, let's end with this one. I like this.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, We're gonna end. It appeals to everyone because
Speaker 2: it's sort of the biggest, dumbest spectacle of a sport.
Speaker 2: We have a sport that like my mom can just
Speaker 2: kind of jump in once a week you don't have
Speaker 2: to know that much about or my eight year old
Speaker 2: son can jump in, and they like the hits, they
Speaker 2: like the action, they like the touchdowns, and it's their
Speaker 2: favorite sport. It's my mom's favorite sport, it's my son's
Speaker 2: favorite sport. But on another level, it's sort of the
Speaker 2: hardest sport to understand. We cover this stuff every day
Speaker 2: for twenty years, and honestly, I will never totally understand it.
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of the way that every play
Speaker 2: and everything that you would need to know to understand
Speaker 2: what happens on every play, It's basically impossible. And even
Speaker 2: if you are coaching you do understand it on the
Speaker 2: most granular level possible. Even for those guys, it is
Speaker 2: always changing, It is always evolving, It is always changing
Speaker 2: from one year to the next, so you have to
Speaker 2: stay totally on top of it or you get left
Speaker 2: behind it. And even those guys who do stay on
Speaker 2: top of it, they can't be watching every snap of
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle of every team, so it's sort of endless.
Speaker 2: That's why we love the Baldis of the world, because
Speaker 2: they're at least out there trying to see and know everything.
Speaker 2: But even Baldy would admit, like he can't be watching everything.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know everything that's going on, So it works
Speaker 2: as this basic sport that appeals to everyone, but it
Speaker 2: also appeals to the connoisseur, the person that wants to
Speaker 2: dive in and be as smart about it as humanly possible.
Speaker 2: I think it's a sport for those types too, and
Speaker 2: you will never get to the bottom of it if
Speaker 2: you want to just study it as like an intellectual exercise.
Speaker 2: So it works on both fronts. And oh, by the
Speaker 2: way it rates.
Speaker 1: It puts the meat in de seats and I mean
Speaker 1: both at the stadiums and on the couches. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so true. I loathe to even bring it up because
Speaker 1: it's my least favorite thing. You never played the game
Speaker 1: card that a pro athlete will play with the media,
Speaker 1: But it is honest. Football is one sport where you
Speaker 1: really these guys that come out of the league and
Speaker 1: then go into broadcasting, if they do it right, they
Speaker 1: have such a huge advantage. I think that's part of
Speaker 1: what made Tony Romo so great when he first started,
Speaker 1: is because he knew the league. He was just in
Speaker 1: the league and he was just dissecting it because he
Speaker 1: had kind of mastered the sport from that side of things,
Speaker 1: and then he was bringing it to the audiences and
Speaker 1: like you if you love to try to like learn
Speaker 1: about the league in a different way, when you have
Speaker 1: somebody like the young Romo broadcaster throwing that stuff at you,
Speaker 1: it's like catnip. But it's also you could tell and
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up any names the guys
Speaker 1: that try to coast on that, and then they get
Speaker 1: further away from their playing career and they they telling
Speaker 1: themselves so quickly and they're almost betrayed by this thing, like, well,
Speaker 1: I played the game, so I don't need to do
Speaker 1: the work, like if you don't keep watching and trying
Speaker 1: to learn where the league's going. Because how much is
Speaker 1: greg how much is football change since when we start
Speaker 1: doing the podcast to where it is now, That's what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's remarkable.
Speaker 2: It's not that basketball doesn't change. It changes, but I
Speaker 2: think schematically in terms of coatball is completely different than basketball.
Speaker 2: It changes baseball, I mean, it doesn't change as much.
Speaker 2: Baseball doesn't change as much. And even to the point
Speaker 2: of those players who really do understand the x's and
Speaker 2: know is better. One thing I realized being young doing
Speaker 2: this is like, yeah, they might understand all that, but
Speaker 2: they don't know like the thirty two depth charts. They're
Speaker 2: not really following along. If like this guy is having
Speaker 2: a great season, this guy isn't on a season scene
Speaker 2: base just because it's impossible to cover everything. That's why
Speaker 2: it to me, it's it's a great sport to cover
Speaker 2: because it's endless.
Speaker 1: It is good one Gregy Again, it's fourth of July
Speaker 1: here in the United States, and everyone be careful.
Speaker 2: We still went over an hour. We've managed to turn
Speaker 2: be honked for over now.
Speaker 1: Everybody have a great time with their friends and family,
Speaker 1: and Greg, please get home safely with you your family
Speaker 1: and enjoy the rest of your trip. Will be away,
Speaker 1: like I said, until a week from Thursday. So this
Speaker 1: is the only time of the year where we're dark
Speaker 1: for this amount of time. And then we'll slowly start
Speaker 1: to ramp things up and we have a big year
Speaker 1: coming up with a lot of exciting things that have
Speaker 1: been going on behind the scenes. Greg, how many meetings
Speaker 1: have we been in at the old mother Ship and
Speaker 1: phone calls and things that we usually try not to
Speaker 1: be involved with because we like to be a self
Speaker 1: sustaining organism. But we've been working hard as we look
Speaker 1: to figure out what is the next stage of around
Speaker 1: the NFL as we entered decade two and we're excited
Speaker 1: about what's coming up. We're not gonna share everything right now,
Speaker 1: but we're excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have been. We have planned more this offseason.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a sign of our maturity I think about
Speaker 2: what's coming up, maybe not than any off season I
Speaker 2: can remember. And if you like around the NFL, I
Speaker 2: think it's safe to say the world be as much
Speaker 2: or more around the NFL content for you coming up
Speaker 2: this season as ever before.
Speaker 1: If it's not, if it's not crap to us, it
Speaker 1: won't be crap to you. We're gonna put the work
Speaker 1: in and we're going to continue.
Speaker 2: We are One day that could be an NFL slogan.
Speaker 2: You like doing that, you know, that could be your
Speaker 2: NFL slogan maybe if.
Speaker 1: We we care and we are looking to keep this
Speaker 1: thing going in an exciting way. So thank you everybody
Speaker 1: for listening. Enjoy your time with your family. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: I hope you're good out there wherever you are, Buddy,
Speaker 1: I think he's back on a boat. He's on the
Speaker 1: sea again, which is fore boating.
Speaker 2: Shock intern of development, Mark becoming a seaman.
Speaker 1: But all right, everybody, Yes, Happy fourth of July. Until
Speaker 1: we meet again, you know what you gotta do. Heed
Speaker 1: the call,