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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: Always Wear Sunscreen Outdoors.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan hansis here in Los Angeles on the day

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Speaker 1: before Independence Day, when yes, you should absolutely be wearing

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Speaker 1: your sunscreen skin health people get it. Joining me. Just

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Speaker 1: one other man today, Mark Sessler is doing whatever Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler does when he's on vacation. But here a man

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Speaker 1: not in America but in the Orient, the far East,

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Speaker 1: a man who went dark last week as he became

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Speaker 1: one with the culture of Tokyo, the great metropolis of

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Speaker 1: the East. But now here he is contributing to the West.

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosental, I feel like we got to update this music,

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Speaker 2: but I appreciate it. I have become one with the

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Speaker 2: culture here. But these colors don't run. Dan, and some

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Speaker 2: might say I'm the most American, the most patriotic of

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Speaker 2: any American, because I've been celebrating the last seven hours.

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Speaker 2: It's already fourth of July here. I woke up at midnight.

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Speaker 2: I've just been you know, watching WWE since for the

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Speaker 2: last seven hours. I'm already ahead of you in my

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Speaker 2: fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: Soe for people listening, you would think that Greg wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be in a totally white room in a gray polo shirt.

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Speaker 1: He's actually dressed like Apollo Creed before the drago fight.

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Speaker 1: That's how patriotic Greg rosehal is. Is there something wrong

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Speaker 1: with this song? Is this? You said it is outdated?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just you know, it is very

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Speaker 2: it's very traditional Japanese. We could get some jpop or

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Speaker 2: something now. This this reminds me the most Japanese I

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Speaker 2: ever feel on these trips to go to the own

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Speaker 2: sen which is like a like a hotel, but with

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Speaker 2: hot springs. So you go in the bath there, you

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Speaker 2: go in the hot spring baths, and you get out

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Speaker 2: of the hot spring baths and you put on your

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Speaker 2: rope and you're walking. You're just totally.

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Speaker 1: At peace.

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Speaker 2: At that point, you've been blasted by hot water for

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Speaker 2: a half hour. You're just as chill as can be.

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Speaker 2: And when you're walking in the hallway back to your

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Speaker 2: room in your yukata in the rope, they are playing

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Speaker 2: music kind of like this, and I'm like, this is

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Speaker 2: about as Japanese as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Are you how to approach it? Are you the only

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Speaker 1: westerner that's there? Are you the only white guy? That's

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Speaker 1: walking through these hallways, do you get looks like are

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Speaker 1: you accepted there? H?

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't. Not a lot of English speakers, and

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Speaker 2: it's kind of an unwritten rule, you don't. You don't

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Speaker 2: speak in these in the baths anyways, because everyone's naked.

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Speaker 2: It's not like a talking, talking kind of place. But

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Speaker 2: to answer your question, yes, I'm usually the only Westerner.

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Speaker 2: Very often it's not crowded at all. There's barely anyone there.

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Speaker 2: But last weekend, actually it was. It was quite crowded

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Speaker 2: and I was getting a lot of looks. But I

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Speaker 2: think that was because of my awkward tattoo covers I

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Speaker 2: had to put over my shoulder I don't want. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that was in my head, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Why did you have to cover your tattoos?

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Speaker 2: Well, they have signs everywhere that you're not allowed to

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Speaker 2: But supposedly it's it's more if you put the effort

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Speaker 2: to put it over, that's enough. It's more the thought

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Speaker 1: Holy God, So based on my knowledge of the culture

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Speaker 1: respect to things, and it's also it's very easy to

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Speaker 1: bring great shame upon things, and you want to avoid

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Speaker 1: bringing great shame upon family, and you want to bring

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Speaker 1: great respect. So a tattoo brings great shame upon the

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Speaker 1: Emica family. To see Greg walking around with the ink,

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Speaker 1: that would be no respect, shame.

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Speaker 2: So that's why you put the cover run. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, while we're here, you're you're a not practicing

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Speaker 1: you break so many rules. Greg, That's why you're the

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Speaker 2: Is that a I didn't even know that's a Jewish rule?

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Speaker 2: But what yeah, I'm I'm bridging and barriers here, bridge

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Speaker 2: You're back in Alsa Gondo.

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Speaker 1: I got, yeah, this is this is you know very

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Speaker 2: That's a big moment in every kid's life. Well not

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Speaker 2: every kid. I never did it. I'm probably too lazy

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Speaker 1: He's agreed to give half of his earnings to homeless people.

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Speaker 1: Is how he put it, half to homeless people. I said,

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Speaker 1: all right, half, okay, how about how about all that?

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Speaker 1: He's like, no, not all, okay. Half. It is July third,

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Speaker 1: this is our last show for a week and a half,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to get you. There's not much to

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Speaker 1: We're part of your routine and you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: our work, so we really appreciate you. Because typically this

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Speaker 1: is when the NFL despite and this is where Mark

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Speaker 1: the NFL cannot figure out how to crack this time

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Speaker 1: of year right now, And despite the gains it's made

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Speaker 2: No, this is nice. I often this time of year,

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Speaker 2: and it annoys them. I bet that the NBA has

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Speaker 2: a nice little time of year. I often this time

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Speaker 2: right to free agency, which is a wild worldwide.

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Speaker 1: So that's what that's sending.

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Speaker 2: Now. There's nothing good on. Yeah, But I mean they

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Speaker 2: There's no break at all. They smash it up all together.

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Speaker 2: The NFL has a nice way of just stretching it

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Speaker 2: out and never losing your interest. But yeah, by the

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Speaker 2: all the way back, and we'll have some news and

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Speaker 1: Yes, So today we'll yeah, whatever news is floating around,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get also, Yes, with the fourth of July

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Speaker 1: we're feeling patriotic about in the NFL A little bit nebulos,

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Speaker 1: but we'll make it work or we won't, and then

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Speaker 1: the next day will come and everybody will forget that

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Speaker 1: this podcast ever existed. I feel like we're in a

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Speaker 1: good pocket here, Greg.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is gonna be a fun segment.

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, we talk about the downside

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Speaker 1: People, absolutely, we do love the people. Let's hit the news.

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Speaker 1: All I know is you're messing with me. You got problems,

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Speaker 1: That's all I know. Greg, does that bring back any

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Speaker 2: Ago, specifically that clip.

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Speaker 1: No, I want to say, and longtime listeners of the

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Speaker 1: That was one of the earlier like kind of drops

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Speaker 1: when ATM first started in twenty thirteen, that's when JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt ruled the world. And it just so happens, GREGI

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Speaker 1: that I in looking for a drop that tied into

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Speaker 1: our first news story, which is JJ Watt is joining

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Speaker 1: NFL Network still airs the show, but it's a great

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Speaker 1: show miked Up. I don't know if it's still like

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Speaker 2: I think it is actually Okay, good watch it.

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Speaker 1: Look it up in your local listenings, this JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: The thing about miked Up with any sport is you

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Speaker 1: think about that first drop you heard Week thirteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: we're talking peak JJ Watt Eric behind the virtual glass

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Speaker 2: You got some?

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Speaker 1: Let's see it. I'll show you, I'll show you. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you gotta go get some popcorn, maybe some ju jub's,

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Speaker 1: a slushy snow cap, perhaps maybe some snow caps. I

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Speaker 1: now where yeah, he's he was undeniably a corny guy,

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Speaker 1: uh and maybe the biggest cornball like in the league

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Speaker 1: in some ways. But his play was so enormous. In

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick of all people, and uh, the way the way

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Speaker 1: really paying attention to him as he's saying this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Start that he chest been a young DeAndre Hopkins to

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Speaker 1: Very young, but that I thought captured the Watt vibe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I feel like I think about Wes a

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Speaker 2: lot when we talked JJ Watt because we were just

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Speaker 2: I think we were all fascinated by this guy. I've

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Speaker 2: said it before in the show. I still think he's

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Speaker 2: the best defensive player I've ever seen at when he

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Speaker 2: him over Aaron. Maybe it was just more obvious when

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Speaker 2: but peak Watt was better than anyone else, and Wes

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Speaker 2: it's pretty deep Dan. On paper, it looks pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about building around defense in twenty twenty three,

433
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Speaker 2: but on paper, it looks pretty good. And Bentley got

434
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Speaker 2: that got that like Patriots. It looks like a good

435
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Speaker 2: deal for the player, but it's really not gonna look

436
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Speaker 2: that good in a year or two type of deal.

437
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Speaker 1: There are people that are using permanent marker to etch

438
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Speaker 1: the Patriots in and last place in the AFC East.

439
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Speaker 1: I am not one of those people. Maybe I'm using

440
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Speaker 1: pencil if I had to do the otder, because eventually

441
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Speaker 1: you can't just say it, you know, you can't just say, oh,

442
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: you know the Patriots, everybody's sleeping on the Patriots. You

443
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Speaker 1: have to then look at how you see things. And

444
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Speaker 1: I do think the Dolphins could be a very good team.

445
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Speaker 1: I think the Jets have the potential will be a

446
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Speaker 1: very good team. I think the Bills obviously are still

447
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Speaker 1: a contender. But would I be stunned if the Pats

448
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Speaker 1: are hanging around five hundred in November and have a

449
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Speaker 1: chance at the playoffs. I wouldn't be there's still too

450
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Speaker 1: much there's too much good there, even if it's no

451
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Speaker 1: longer great or special, as I've brought up in the past,

452
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Speaker 1: Gregy to totally write them off as I'm not saying

453
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Speaker 1: super Bowl contenders, but you know, I think what you're

454
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Speaker 1: alluding to with Mac Jones, who you have as a

455
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Speaker 1: making the leap candidate and defense and a Belichick who's

456
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Speaker 1: you know, got his back up against the wall a

457
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Speaker 1: little bit, Yeah, the Pats could be frisky this year.

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Speaker 2: And Belichick's been laying it on thick like Keate. He

459
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Speaker 2: said something in this offseason how he didn't think they

460
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Speaker 2: really had their even though they won the Super Bowl

461
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Speaker 2: in his second year, he didn't think they really became

462
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Speaker 2: who they were until year four of a program and

463
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Speaker 2: that's when they and I kind of agree as a

464
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Speaker 2: Patriots fan that that was the first real great Patriots

465
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Speaker 2: team two thousand and three. And people thought he threw

466
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Speaker 2: that out there now as if this is like year

467
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Speaker 2: four of the post Brady program, that he's had his

468
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Speaker 2: time to set it all up and now this is

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Speaker 2: where it all pays off.

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Speaker 1: Eric from behind the virtual glasses Lawrence Taylor won in

471
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Speaker 1: eighty six last defensive Player of the Year. Eric Dickerson

472
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Speaker 1: came in second that year. Eric, can you jump in

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Speaker 1: real quick?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and by the way LT fans out there's like,

475
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Speaker 2: how could you say, jaj you wat's the best defensive player?

476
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Speaker 1: Earl?

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Speaker 2: It was a LT of course. Well, like by everything

478
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Speaker 2: I heard, that's absolutely true. I'm sure he was the best.

479
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: I was like, seven, how can I possibly say that

480
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Speaker 2: he was better? I'm saying based than what we saw,

481
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Greg. I yeah, just that was on my

482
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Speaker 2: mind ever since.

483
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Speaker 1: Yet It's okay, It's okay. It's your first show back.

484
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Speaker 1: Your your hot is a pistol and I like it.

485
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Speaker 2: Eric.

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Speaker 1: Just want to let you know you obviously are doing

487
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Speaker 1: a great job so far in the producer chair. Last

488
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Speaker 1: week I caught some I caught some heat on Twitter

489
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Speaker 1: from Bills fans because I said in a conversation that

490
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Speaker 1: they had not gotten to the AFC title game under

491
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Speaker 1: McDermott yet, right, apparently they did. You are the biggest

492
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Speaker 1: Bills fan.

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Speaker 3: I know you know I saw that too, but I

494
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Speaker 3: understood what you said. As he said, get back to

495
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Speaker 3: they hadn't been the haven't been in two years.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I very clearly. Yeah, I okay, misunderstanding there.

497
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Speaker 1: I clearly said that they hadn't made it to the

498
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Speaker 1: AFC TWN game yet, but they got beaten in twenty twenty. Yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: so I was checking in the case, Eric, you had

500
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Speaker 1: heard it, but you didn't want to jump in when

501
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Speaker 1: there's an egregious era like that, please Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah I did.

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Speaker 3: I thought I saw the comments too, and I thought

504
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Speaker 3: it was I understood it as because you you stopped

505
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Speaker 3: and you're like, this is weird because we're saying get

506
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Speaker 3: back to or get to It's like, right, they haven't

507
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Speaker 3: been David. Yeah, they got you know, ousted early the

508
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: last two years. So yeah, but yeah, that's the twenty

509
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Speaker 3: twenty year. I block it off for my memory anyways,

510
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Speaker 3: that it.

511
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Speaker 2: Was also COVID. The Bills kind of didn't really show

512
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Speaker 2: up for that game. I know they scored some points,

513
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Speaker 2: but it wasn't particularly competitive, So I don't. I think

514
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Speaker 2: it's fine to forget that game.

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Speaker 1: Before you disappear. Eric. All I need is a record

516
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills twenty and twenty three final regular season record,

517
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Speaker 1: Uh need it? Gotta have it.

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Speaker 2: Eleven seven eleven six. I mean that you can't even Yeah,

519
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: that's just okay, number run. If it's eleven and seven

520
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: they lose their first game of the play. It's a

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Speaker 2: rough prediction here.

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Speaker 1: Well on the spot eleven wins. Mark Sessler believes nine

523
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Speaker 1: wins can win the AFC East, So you know that

524
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Speaker 1: might be. It could be plenty of breathing room.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, let's talk after Week one Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: Let's see how everybody I have talked about it. It's

527
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Speaker 3: like that first week it's it's gonna be sky's falling

528
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Speaker 3: for one half. How good is the other half? And

529
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be by about Tuesday afternoon, I'm gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Like, how about this, Greggy, your favorite week of the year?

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Speaker 1: Week one, Monday Night football Bills It Jets Alan v. Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: That's a football game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. So glad they're not doing the doubleheader

534
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Speaker 2: in Week one this year. It's just just that game.

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Speaker 2: We might have to do a special you know, full

536
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Speaker 2: team Hans, this Eric, everyone involved. Monday Night recap not

537
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Speaker 2: not even wait for Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: The talking hens are already salivating. Man.

539
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Speaker 3: A couple of picks on either side, Rogers or Allen,

540
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: somebody made me throws one late I don't know, two

541
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Speaker 3: minute drill and screws over the team.

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Speaker 1: Yah. Listen, there are a lot of outcomes. One of

543
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: those fan bases being in a panic feels right come Tuesday.

544
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Speaker 1: But we have a few weeks still till we get there.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then we'll get patriotic. All right,

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Speaker 1: Listen to that. That's one of those famous songs. It's

547
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Speaker 1: the Yankee Doodle Dandy. Now it's what is that one?

548
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: D dun? Don you know, don't do a dismissive shrug

549
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: of your shoulders just because you're in Japan.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know the name of the song. So

551
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Speaker 2: I'm just hoping you fill it in for me. I

552
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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's the song. We have another job at.

554
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: The fourth of July parade, that's the song.

555
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: Yes. Independence Day is upon us, a federal holiday in

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Speaker 1: the United States, commemorating the Declaration of Independence, which was

557
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Speaker 1: ratified by the Second Continental Congress on July fourth, seventeen

558
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Speaker 1: seventy six, establishing formerly the United States of America England.

559
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Speaker 1: You can't have us no more. And that's a good

560
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Speaker 1: job by the founding fathers. Now. So there's there's the

561
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Speaker 1: patriotism on fourth.

562
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Speaker 2: Zip, very anti UK edition of the show.

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Speaker 1: I like it that that portion. Yes, I mean, there

564
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: is a naughty history, but the Americans and the English

565
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Speaker 1: have become great allies in many ways ever since. So

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Speaker 1: that's the that's that's good. The US and Japan also

567
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Speaker 1: very good place these days.

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Speaker 2: Not always case.

569
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Speaker 1: We are in a good place because because this game

570
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Speaker 1: of pro football, Greg ee oh Man, does it stir

571
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Speaker 1: the emotions, the pride patriotism.

572
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Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't even know where to start here.

573
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: I have so many options. Actually, let's start with like

574
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: a holiday, because because that's that's patriotic, and so that

575
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Speaker 2: was the first thing I thought of when I thought

576
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Speaker 2: of Fourth of julyfe was another holiday.

577
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Speaker 1: And the idea of patriotism, it's it's devotion to and

578
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Speaker 1: vigorous support for one's own country. In this case, for

579
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Speaker 1: this segment, we're referring to Football World, Land of Football, right,

580
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Speaker 1: That's what we're That's what this is basically, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well just football. I mean, let's be real, okay, I look,

582
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: being overly patriotic, that's almost a US stereotype. People people

583
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: think the the Americans are a little too uh, too patriotic,

584
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: little too jinguistic. Why all these flags every year? But

585
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Speaker 2: you can have pride in your country. I'm sure every

586
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: country has pride in the country. And you know, American

587
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: football is kind of our sport. I know, baseball blah

588
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: blah blah, America's pastime, but like that's everywhere else. Like

589
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: this is the thing that we do America the best.

590
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: We are essentially the only it's dominant, And so I

591
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: think it's okay to I'm saying it's okay to be

592
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Speaker 2: a little prideful of American football because it is pretty

593
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Speaker 2: uniquely American. And it makes me think of Thanksgiving, which is,

594
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Speaker 2: to me, a uniquely American holiday. And that was the

595
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Speaker 2: first thing I thought about when just feeling patriotic. Give me,

596
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: here's what I'm feeling patriotic for and looking forward to

597
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: give me a little nine to thirty am West Coast

598
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Speaker 2: kickoff on Thanksgiving. To me, that is America. I don't

599
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: need to cook the bird. We're gonna go pick it up.

600
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Speaker 2: It's open at eight am over at the at the

601
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Speaker 2: place that cooks it for us. So I'm gonna go

602
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Speaker 2: pick it up at eight thirty am. I'm gonna bring

603
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Speaker 2: my son. We're gonna have some muff line, and we're

604
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: gonna drive back, and we're gonna get back in time

605
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: to see the new America's team, Detroit Lions kickoff at

606
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Speaker 2: nine thirty am. You wanted them out of Thanksgiving for years.

607
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Now it's come around and it's great that they've kept it.

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00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: And I do I do love me a nine to

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Speaker 2: thirty am West Coast kickoff on Thanksgiving. I just love

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Speaker 2: ten am kickoffs every week, so that's I'm patriotic for

611
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: that too. I just love an all day ten am

612
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: on the West Coast. I know East Coasters aren't aren't

613
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: really vibing with this, but that to me is as

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Speaker 2: American as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Full day of football that I always found, having lived,

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Speaker 1: you know, nearly thirty years on the East Coast and

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: now here, you know, twelve thirteen years on the West Coast,

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00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: that twelve thirty kickoff, that's the only game you and

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Speaker 1: it was always the Lions that you're you're feeling like,

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00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: all right, I can watch this game. I know, I

621
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: got a I got a polish furniture. I gotta do this.

622
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: Got to bring the chairs up from downstairs. I have

623
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: to help out. I have to run to the store

624
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: for mom. I got to do this. But I could

625
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: watch that twelve thirty because the company's not coming over

626
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: till four. And then it got always got very murky.

627
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: That middle game was the Cowboy Game. I've missed it

628
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: so many times over the years because it's right in

629
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Speaker 1: the heart of Thanksgiving. And now the late game. Actually

630
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: it's popped up obviously in the last decade or so.

631
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Speaker 1: That's a better one. That's a great spot because it's

632
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: like when you're settled after the long day here on

633
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Yeah, that morning game that really kind

634
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: of kicks you into things. And then you also get

635
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboy game before your company comes over. And then

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Speaker 1: I say, Greg, they just like get ahead of this

637
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, you cook the bird one year,

638
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: just do it like it's nice. You know what I do?

639
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: You know what the zeuser does. I have an air

640
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: fryer outside and I put the turkey in there. It

641
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: takes like six hours or something to cook. And I

642
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: got the TV set up and I'm watching football and

643
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: checking in on the temperature of the bird every half

644
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: hour or so. You know, hanging out with friends and family,

645
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: and it's a very nice thing to do. It's a

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00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: nice little combo platter.

647
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Emmica's making some pies, she's making some sides.

648
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: But now I'm not doing any challenge yourself to only

649
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: one life. You're right, I will get through this just

650
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: once about ever kicking. Okay, all right?

651
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm patriotic about.

652
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: Please?

653
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh do you want to sit? No, you have anything

654
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: else you want to add on that? Because I do agree.

655
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: That's a good job. That's good. That's it.

656
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: I am patriotic about an anniversary, the anniversary of the

657
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: dumbest thing that's ever happened in the history of the NFL.

658
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm filled with such pride thinking back to what happened

659
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: twenty years ago this October. I'm gonna read the article

660
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: from Len Pascarelli, headline Punter out this week com a

661
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: maybe season lead. When rookie coach Jack del Rio placed

662
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: a stump of oak in an axe in the Jacksonville

663
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars locker room a few weeks ago as the motivational

664
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: technique symbolic of his theme to quote keep chopping wood.

665
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: It was viewed as a sophomore technique by some veterans now,

666
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: the move is likely to be regarded as a huge mistake.

667
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: The Jaguars on Thursday lost Pro Bowl punter Chris Hansen

668
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: for an undetermined amount of time. ESPN dot Com has

669
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: learned that he will be sidelined four to six weeks

670
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: and could well miss the balance of the season. When

671
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: the fourth year veteran was accidentally gashed on his right

672
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: non kicking foot while wielding the acts taken to the

673
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: hospital for a gash in his foot. I don't think

674
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: he returned Greg twenty years ago that happened. I was

675
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: thinking there have been crazy stories in the Aten era.

676
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: This is a very bad memory around this time of year.

677
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: But I remember being in the newsroom in July when

678
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: we learned that, and we're getting the details of Jason

679
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul's fireworks accident that cost him a part of

680
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: his hand.

681
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: That was precat.

682
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Everybody out there, do not do the fireworks thing this week.

683
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Just don't. It's not worth it. They're not that cool.

684
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: Goes somewhere where they do it, and they know what

685
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: they're do doing. That was a terrible, stunning, crazy story.

686
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: This one is more under the side of coaches folly

687
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: and Jack del Rio, who had some choice words about

688
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: the insurrection years later, maybe not totally studying it was

689
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: him that was behind it all.

690
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: That you would think this would have really hurt del

691
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Rio's career, like this feels like a borderline fireable offense.

692
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: But he was around in Jacksonville for a while longer,

693
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: got another head coaching job. Still is the defensive coordinator?

694
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: I had the check. I was like, is he still

695
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: the commander's coordinator because they've kind of been.

696
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Feel like he's definitely still very active.

697
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still there. That was amazing. There's a lot

698
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: of like if Twitter was around, type of stories that

699
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: you wonder how it would be covered, and that that

700
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: is high on the list.

701
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: When we're at the end of the story here, Greg,

702
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: I have so much patriotism about this.

703
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: It is uniquely American lead dumb.

704
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: The accident apparently occurred during a team meeting that the

705
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: Kickers were not mandated to attend. There's your mistake right there.

706
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: You left the kickers to their own devices. Not surprisingly,

707
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: the axe was removed from the locker room Thursday afternoon,

708
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: and the tree stump will soon be gone as well.

709
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: It was somewhat surprising, according to Pascarelli, the franchise officials

710
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: and the league would permit the tree stump and the

711
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: acts given the potential for the kind of incident that

712
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: transpired Thursday. The stump had garnered plenty of media attention.

713
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: Final quote from Jack del Rio, who was sympathetic to

714
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: the insurrection, I'll find another slogan. The message was understood.

715
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: The thing was on its way out soon, but not

716
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: soon enough. It was symbolic more than anything else.

717
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't really back off, he said. The slogan'll

718
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: live on. He didn't back off. I love Lehen Pascarelli

719
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: tries to blame the league on it, that they allowed it.

720
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: What they heard some talk about the stump, and they

721
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: were going to make a rule about it. All right,

722
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: you're up, all right, let's go bigger picture. Let's stuck Cowboys.

723
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: I actually am feeling patriotic about the Cowboys. I'm just glad.

724
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: To me, they're the America's team for a reason. They're

725
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: just the biggest, dumbest, funnest team. I'm glad they exist.

726
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm not a Cowboys fan. There was that great book,

727
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: Billy Lynn's Halftime Walk, which I really recommend. You're looking

728
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: something to Read is kind of a football book, kind

729
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: of not. It's sort of critical of what a team

730
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys mean to America and everything like that.

731
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: And so Cowboys are America. They're everything bad, they're everything good.

732
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: But like, damn it if Jerry Jones hasn't like accomplished

733
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: what he wanted, which is they are the biggest show

734
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: in town. They are bigger and dumber. They are the show.

735
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: They are the team that everyone wants to watch like

736
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: they are America and Bomani. Jones says it a lot

737
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: when he goes to a Cowboys game. He says, you

738
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: want to see America, go to the Cowboys parking lot.

739
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: That is true diversity. There is everything in a Cowboys

740
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: There's Hispanic, black, white, everything. There's high income, there's low income,

741
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: like there is every different types of fan. Everyone's a

742
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys fan. That's in Texas and really all around the country.

743
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: And uh, there's a lot that's wrong with them, but

744
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad they're there. They are American to me.

745
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: That's the feeling patriotic about the Cowboys.

746
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Great one. And you know, Jerry Jones doesn't have a spotless,

747
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: you know record when it comes to you know, things

748
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: that he's done in his past. But I have to

749
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: say Jerah, as an owner and as the guy that

750
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: that really stokes the fire of that organization, I appreciate

751
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: him as he enters his uh he's in his early

752
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: eighties now, and he will be his presence will be

753
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: missed when he's gone. And I think about the Cowboys

754
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: and as a Yankees fan, like people hate the Yankees

755
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: just like they hate the Cowboys, and that's good. It's

756
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: good to have that team that that is very popular,

757
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: that has a lot of success in their past, but

758
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: then when they lose, you get this huge You have

759
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: the you know, this segment of diehards that support that team,

760
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: but then everyone else can celebrate that team failing. And

761
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: the Yankees are that in baseball and the Cowboys are

762
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: that in football. And I thought it was actually kind

763
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: of interesting when I was doing Superstar Club, when I'm

764
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: kind of stuck on a player, every year, I'll send

765
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: out a tweet like is this guy a Superstar? And

766
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: one of them I did was for Ceed Lamb, who

767
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: I think got it.

768
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you wouldn't know it was. It was all anonymous,

769
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: but I did fill out that one I said, oh,

770
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: what did you say for the record, I said, yes, yeah.

771
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: So Ceedee Lamb I and I put him in. But

772
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: when ten thousand people responded, eighty percent said no. And

773
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: it's not because they were like judging Ceedee Lamb is

774
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: not a true superstar. It's because they hate the Cowboys

775
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: and they don't want to They don't want Ceedee Lamb

776
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: to be successful because Cede Lamb having great success means

777
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are back on top. And I think it's

778
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: just fun to have that team that everyone hates. It's

779
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: so important and the Cowboys are that and I hope

780
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: it is that way after Jerry's gone, because after George

781
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Steinberner left the Yankees when he passed away, the Yankees

782
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: don't have that same kind of excitement around them in

783
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: terms of how they're run and just the juice around them.

784
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: And Jerah, for the lack of Super Bowl rings in

785
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: the last quarter century, they've remained relevant and exciting and

786
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: a team worth talking about. And he has a lot

787
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: to do with that.

788
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: So I mean, he's got to be apparently the subject

789
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: of a ten bart Netflix series. They've paid fifty million

790
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: dollars too. I'm feeling patriotic for NFL Films too, still

791
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: getting it done. NFL Films has made this or in

792
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: the middle of this documentary. It's apparently mostly about the

793
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: nineties Cowboys, not so much about Jerry, But maybe it's

794
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 2: kind of focused on Jerry and about the nineties Cowboys

795
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: and everything that went on. It sounds pretty fascinating. But

796
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to keep it going because

797
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: even though Jerry's gone, it'll be in his family, I

798
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: assume in Stephen Jones will be running. There's no greater

799
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: proof that they're going to stay around forever than if

800
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: you live through the Quincy Carter era when they didn't

801
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: have quarterbacks, because they were still a big deal. Then

802
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: if you remember that they still felt like big games.

803
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it was annoying that they were always on

804
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 2: and stuff, but they were still kind of a big

805
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: deal even with Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter.

806
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can tell you Stephen Jones is not

807
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna generate headlines like Jara did, just like House LiLine,

808
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: Runner doesn't do it the way George did. He is

809
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: in a class of his own in that sense. It

810
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: would help if they could, like, you know, get another

811
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: ring though, it's you kind of have to have that

812
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: success too to stay in that in that realm. And

813
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: it's been a while now, so maybe this will be

814
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: the year for the Cowboys. You also have the The

815
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: Quarterback series on Netflix that's gone out soon. I can't

816
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: wait for that.

817
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that text of years. You said it

818
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: looked you thought it looked great. I'm gonna be I'm

819
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: gonna wait and see. We'll see how this thingks.

820
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna you're gonna gobble it.

821
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: Up, Grant, I'll watch it right away. It's just like

822
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: I want want to snort it. I watched this at Netflix,

823
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: you know, tennis series Breakpoint too, and like you would

824
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: think that would be catnep for me, but it was

825
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: kind of disappointing.

826
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: And then and now that you got my mind thinking

827
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones documentary, let's let let's let HBO handle

828
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: that it's doing about ten years or so and get

829
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: it right. Let's make it a two parter and just.

830
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that it's NFL Films is it'll be great.

831
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: But it'll be a different documentary than.

832
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: If it was by a different you know, right, Robert Kraft.

833
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: It'll be really great, but it'll be it'll be different.

834
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: The Robert Kraft probably has a say in this conversation,

835
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: but Jones is probably the most powerful figure in the NFL,

836
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: right at least amongst the ownership, and maybe even including

837
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Goodell and the owners, right, I mean, and the rest

838
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: of the front office. So he's gonna have his fingertips

839
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: on anything that comes out safe to say, you know

840
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: what I'm patriotic about. Holy God, Year four Justin Jefferson.

841
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: Holy God built up the old Pro Football Reference. Here

842
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: is the production for Justin Jefferson, who, by the way,

843
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of, Greg, but football

844
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: is an incredibly punishing, physical game.

845
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: I've heard that, I've seen it.

846
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has never missed a game in three years.

847
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Fifty games. Catches by a year eighty eight one o

848
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: eight one twenty eight yards fourteen hundred sixteen sixteen eighteen

849
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: oh nine yards per game, eighty seven and a half

850
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: ninety five one oh six point four Rookie of the Year,

851
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: second place, second Team All proh second Team All Pro,

852
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: First Team, All Pro Offensive Player of the Year. Then

853
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: I looked at Randy Moss, who, in my lifetime is

854
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: the greatest receiver that I ever saw in terms of dominance. Okay,

855
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: and yes, sure enough in a very different world. In

856
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: the NFL ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, he immediately

857
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: just blew the doors off the league. Finished in the

858
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: top three in MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, Top

859
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: five twice Rookie of the Year. Of course, what made

860
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: Moss different is his ability to find the end zone

861
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: as well, because he was just unbelievable on deep balls.

862
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: He had seventeen, eleven and fifteen touchdowns his first three years.

863
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: So while the rest of his numbers aren't quite at

864
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the heights of Jefferson, you have to keep in mind

865
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the air he played in and then look at the

866
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: finding the end zone the way it Moss did. So

867
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: I think Moss kind of changed the league fundam mentally,

868
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: or kind of stood out a little bit more than

869
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Jefferson Rice. I wasn't there for his first peak, nor

870
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: were you, Greg in the mid to late eighties, but

871
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: he had a second peak in the mid nineties where

872
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: he was just unstoppable. But he was, you know, gifted

873
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and once he learned the game,

874
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: when he lost speed, he made up for in other ways,

875
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't. The way I look at Jefferson is different,

876
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: and also just because he's just the way he explodes

877
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: off the screen when you watch him. So as he

878
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: enters now his age twenty four season. I know a

879
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are down on the vikings this year.

880
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: I understand it, and they went thirteen and four, but

881
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: they weren't a truth thirteen and four. We all know that.

882
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: I think they're still going to score points, and I

883
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: think Jefferson has a chance to almost impossibly get better

884
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: in year four because he's done that every year of

885
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: his career so far.

886
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: That's a fun one. I I picked up a fantasy

887
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: sports magazine on the way here for Walker at the airport.

888
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: That's That's one thing. It is on the my long

889
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: list of things I'm feeling patriotic for. I love those

890
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: those early fantasy.

891
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Magazines are just they're still pumping them out.

892
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: Still pumping them out at the especially the early ones

893
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: that come out. You're you just you want to see

894
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: some rankings, you want to do. You start making your list.

895
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: Walker wants to do that, and we were talking about

896
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: who to take with number one. There's McCaffrey and blah.

897
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't know, man, Justin Jefferson,

898
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: if you're in that top top area there, I'm just

899
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: gonna feel good. You just know it's gonna work. In

900
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: a PPR league, you know it's gonna work. You know

901
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: that's not going down. And I think even in a

902
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: real football setting, I think i'd take him over to

903
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: everyone as good as the top of the top receivers

904
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: are right now, I think I think you're right to

905
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: feel patriotic. I think he's You're good to take him

906
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: over everyone, And I think he's got the right He

907
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: doesn't have the right quarterback, not that Cousin's a bad

908
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: quarterback for him to be, he could have a better one.

909
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: But I do think he's in the right offense and

910
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: the right coach that's gonna keep just feeding him and

911
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: finding ways to.

912
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Get him the ball. Yes, Kevin O'Connell will know what

913
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: he needs to do. And it might be the last

914
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: year of Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson, but whoever they

915
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: bring in next is just gonna have such a huge advantage.

916
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: As long as you keep Jefferson happy and get him

917
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: under a long term deal, he's gonna make quarterbacks better

918
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: for his entire career.

919
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: You're up, Greg, I mean, but yeah, those you know,

920
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: fantasy bags. It's just like you're at the point of

921
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: the offseason where it's like, I'm ready to start turning

922
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: the page. I've had enough of this summer. Let's start.

923
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: Let's start making some rankings. Love those so many big

924
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: picture ones I'm going to go with just like running

925
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks right now, I'm just feeling patriotic about running quarterbacks.

926
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: These are some of the greatest athletes of the world.

927
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: I could combine this and just say I'm feeling patriotic

928
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: about NFL athletes. Show me a freaking Miles Garrett in

929
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: another sport, by the way, or a DeMarcus Lawrence, or

930
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: like a DeForest Buckner. I would argue that, like the

931
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: best NFL athletes are just the best athletes, the most

932
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: impressive athletes, and they don't really exist.

933
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Greg I wrote about eight Lebron James playing tight end

934
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys stories on NFL dot Com in the

935
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: mid two thousands.

936
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: NBA's close, but they're not like two hundred and seventy

937
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: five or two hundred and ninety pounds moving that fast

938
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: and that big. Maybe A couple of them are, but

939
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: not many. A Yiannis type is. But to drill down beyond,

940
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: just like specimen and athleticism, I'm patriotic about running quarterbacks.

941
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: This is this is the league I wanted to see

942
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: for so long. It really has changed. I think we

943
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: almost take it for granted because it happens slowly. But

944
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: right now we got Lamar, we got Josh Allen, we

945
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: got Jalen Hurts, we got Justin Fields, we got Anthony

946
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: Richardson coming in. We got Daniel Jones lighting it up,

947
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and Kyler and Herbert. You almost don't even

948
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: think as a running quarterback and Burrow, but they have

949
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: a ton of rushing value. They really don't make pocket

950
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: quarterbacks anymore. I went back dan and looked at the

951
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: QBR rankings because they have a rushing value list back

952
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 2: about fifteen years ago, one year two thousand and seven,

953
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: there was one quarterback who was above a ten in

954
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: rushing QBR that year, and it was Aaron Rodgers. Right

955
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: now we have eleven of those quarterbacks, eleven versus one.

956
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: One year, David Garrard led the league. David Garrard and

957
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: a number around that. Gino Smith had in rushing value.

958
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: Literally there was a year like not that long ago

959
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: where no quarterbacks had rushing value. And then you even

960
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: look at the top shelf guys like Vic and Cam

961
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: Newton who were always exciting, but they were outliers even

962
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: compared to those guys the very top of the top,

963
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: which is basically Alan Hurts Fields in terms of his

964
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: running and Lamar you know when he's healthy, like those

965
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: guys are even at another level just in terms of

966
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: the volume, even compared to Cam and Vick. So the

967
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: league changed. They don't really have pocket quarterbacks anywhere. They

968
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: have some Kirk Cousins types, but they're not coming into

969
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: the league. So I'm feeling patriotic like that the league.

970
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: We wanted to see where the league kind of met

971
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: the best athletes where they were is happening.

972
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: It's happened. Yeah, And you could do an entire, you know,

973
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: sociology class course about the evolution of the running quarterback

974
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: and what took so long?

975
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: And and.

976
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: You look at Randall Cunningham as an example, at least

977
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: in our lifetimes, he was the first example of the

978
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: guy that could do that, and every he blew everybody's mind,

979
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: and he was a huge star, even if it didn't

980
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: last too long. Then he reserviced with the Vikings kind

981
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: of forget about that years later, not as a that

982
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: known as that super athlete and then tore the league

983
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: apart as a.

984
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: Mostly pocket pass should have.

985
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the great teams that never won the

986
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, those ninety eight Vikings with Randy Moss as

987
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: a rookie tinner all together. But and then you had

988
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: him looking at it, and Steve McNair came along, and

989
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: Aaron McNair. He moved the ball with his legs. He

990
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: won an MVP with Peyton Manning two thousand and three.

991
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: But you know, then it's kind of quiet. Then Vic

992
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: shows up and Vic kind of lights the league on fire.

993
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: But we still haven't had a true revolution. Yeah, maybe

994
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: it was just.

995
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: Like one out of time. It was like one out

996
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: of time though, that's what.

997
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you would think it's not like there

998
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: wasn't these flashpoint moments where it would have happened. And

999
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: I think that also you can look at it. What

1000
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many layers to it, including how

1001
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: college was developing these guys and letting athletes play quarterback

1002
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: and play like athletes, not just passers. That it wasn't

1003
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: really I feel like until around Cam who was first

1004
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: overall in twenty eleven, where you finally got like a

1005
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: steady trickle, And now I feel like the faucet has

1006
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: just turned on. And most of these guys are coming

1007
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: out of the league with this dual threat capability, and

1008
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: it's just like it makes sense. It makes it makes

1009
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: a team so much harder to defend when you have

1010
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: that quarterback can do it all and he'll be justin

1011
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: Fields is like that before he got hurt at the

1012
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: end of last season. May me a more exciting player

1013
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: to watch in the league than Fields in November last year.

1014
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: Right, And even the guys like I was surprised when

1015
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: I looked at the QBR rushing value, guys like Mahomes

1016
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: and Burrough who you don't think of as runners, are

1017
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 2: still running so much more. The russ RG three luckier actually,

1018
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: you know, had a chance to really inject a lot

1019
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: of athleticism, and they ranked pretty high, especially early in

1020
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: this greup. People forget Russell Wilson had a couple of

1021
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: really good rushing years, but they didn't build offenses around

1022
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: those guys as rushing they were just efficient running when

1023
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: they needed to other than RG three, and now now

1024
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: it's just a huge part of these offenses and it

1025
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: make it makes a lot more fun to watch. That's

1026
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: why I'm feeling patiotic.

1027
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: And RG three is twenty ten right before Cam, so

1028
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: maybe RG three is another way to look at it.

1029
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: When the oh no, he's twenty twelve.

1030
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Wilson, with Tannahill, that's right, that's how that's

1031
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: how old Tannahill is is that Like, I guess it's

1032
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: luck in RG three retiring so early makes him feel older,

1033
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: but he was in that class.

1034
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: I will never forget being in the newsroom on opening

1035
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: day twenty twelve against the Saints when RG three scrambled out,

1036
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: turned the corner and then just went down the sideline

1037
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: I think untouched for like seventy yards or something. It

1038
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: was insane and it was like, holy god, that guy, Yeah,

1039
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: it was a forty thirty two went over the Saints.

1040
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: It was a huge upset, and you know it was

1041
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: just like this guy has speed, like it's hard to believe. Interesting,

1042
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: good one, Greg. I wish RG three stayed healthy. That

1043
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: would have been it was an interesting one of the

1044
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: great what ifs in this particular conversation of these quarterbacks

1045
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: is what if RG three stayed healthy? I mean, his

1046
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: season is twenty twelve rookie season was pretty badass all

1047
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: the way around. Remember he looked to me boys on Thanksgiving.

1048
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: I did a weekly column QB Index, where the whole

1049
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: point of the column was I just watched the coaches

1050
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: film of the rookies every game that year and rank

1051
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: them based on the week and then based on the season.

1052
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: And as good as Andrew Luck was that year, and

1053
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson for that matter, RG three was the guy

1054
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: I put at the top at the end of the season.

1055
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: He had the best season of those three.

1056
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what do I want to talk

1057
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: about now?

1058
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 2: You can go quick.

1059
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I got a couple of things to

1060
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: get I'm patriotic about. Like I said, this is the

1061
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: one time of year the NFL hasn't cracked yet, so

1062
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out. I got a lot

1063
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: of pride in patriotism about the late June early July

1064
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: news cycle. Superstar clubs all over NFL websites across the

1065
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: world right now. But I want to put my focus

1066
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: on Chris Jones chief star who woke up, picked up

1067
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: his phone and just typed four words in an acronym.

1068
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: I'll win dpo Y this year hits end and he

1069
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: was on every NFL and sports website in the world

1070
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: for that one tweet. And I just wanted to give

1071
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: a shout out for the power even though he who

1072
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: wrote it, Oh my god, it was so good. I

1073
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: think it was Rohato Pat. Yeah, Rhoda Pat's the best.

1074
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: You know, he got Elon Musk what he's doing with

1075
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: Twitter now, with the limits and everything road Pats tweet

1076
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: and then Comma for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Comma, he

1077
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: imperiled his industrial empire while crashing the great communications platform

1078
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: of the twenty first century. That's a good job about you,

1079
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Darty.

1080
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: But anyway, Jone's keeping it alive. Though.

1081
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: Joe just like throws out a tweet and it blows

1082
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: up and he could win defens Player of the Year.

1083
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: He wants some money too, you like, get paid for it.

1084
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Maybe that will get him a new contract if he

1085
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: wants DPOY. But a shout out for being able to

1086
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: just write four words in an acronym and be the

1087
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: biggest NFL story for twenty four hours.

1088
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the time to do it if you

1089
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: want attention, Like this would be my strategy as a

1090
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: social media coordinator or like a publicist like go big.

1091
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: Doing something at this time of year positive. Unfortunately, at

1092
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: this time of year, it's always often negative stories. But

1093
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: this Chris Jones calling a shot is a positive story.

1094
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: I do worry a little bit. He's coming off a

1095
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: career year. I would say, I mean, he's had a

1096
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: great career. He actually is going to get some Hall

1097
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: of Fame consideration if he keeps this up at this pace,

1098
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: the way he's been going. But I would say last

1099
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: year was the best year of his career. So Kenny

1100
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: top that.

1101
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: One last addendum to this. In his replies, someone wrote

1102
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: you might need damn near twenty of them thang referring

1103
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: to I believe Sacks. And then Chris Jones once again,

1104
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, very spartan in his choice in his wording,

1105
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: because you know, again you don't need to write a

1106
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: lot here, just enough his response Okay, I mean it

1107
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: could have been because I don't know how he said it,

1108
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: like if there was an inflection, it could have been

1109
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: like okay, or it could have been like okay, like

1110
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: being a jerk about it, or Okay, he's gonna I.

1111
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: Think I think that's an okay, I'm gonna do it.

1112
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: I think it's okay. Yeah, that's what's.

1113
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: All right. I got one more, Greg, so I know

1114
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: you probably have four hundred more.

1115
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: No, I got too many. I could go fast, but

1116
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: I got two. I like left, but I'll do that.

1117
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: I'll do a speed around here. Number one. Shout out

1118
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: to the Zone out here in Japan. Game passes just

1119
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: on the zone, the zones showing up live games all

1120
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: over the world. I didn't know about that, you know

1121
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: de Zone at home da z n oh.

1122
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that.

1123
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: I mean we got to hear you can watch the

1124
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: Tokyo Swallows.

1125
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: MMA.

1126
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: But here you can watch you know, are the local

1127
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: baseball team. But Walker noticed, like we got NFL network

1128
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: over here on de zone and we got game pass

1129
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: and that I googled it. It's it's all over the

1130
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: world on de Zone. You can you can have a game.

1131
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that was like a nice job by Dezone.

1132
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 2: You can watch some live football over here in Japan.

1133
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: That's good.

1134
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: That's a good job by you.

1135
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: The Bucks Cannons. I like the cannons that they fire off.

1136
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: That's good. Uh. I like that Madden is still going

1137
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: so strong. Walker getting a lot of airtime today, but

1138
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: he's addicted to the video game Madden. Now, it's like

1139
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: it's still going strong. Shout out to the Bosa brothers.

1140
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: Famously bad in interviews. Not a fan of their politics.

1141
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: Like there's few people in the NFL I'd want to

1142
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: hang out with less than the Bosa brothers, But we

1143
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: never talk about them. How about delivering? Just watching them,

1144
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: Like Kyle Shannan says, Nick Bosa is maybe one of

1145
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: the smartest players he's ever come across. These are top

1146
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: five picks. Cute, he was serious, but in terms of

1147
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: like their hand usage and power and like if you're

1148
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: into that, like they deliver. They were top five picks

1149
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: who are absolutely studs from the minute they enter the league.

1150
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: Joey's got to stay healthy, but like they look like

1151
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: they're going to go with a power move and they

1152
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: swipe like they are technicians. So shout out to the

1153
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: Bosa but they just seem very American.

1154
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: Where was Nick where they needed to stop twenty seven

1155
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: nothing though?

1156
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: Or Joey should I mean, he's one that was nick

1157
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: one one player. But I mean Joey, by the way,

1158
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: is kind of a Sammy Watkins All Star right now.

1159
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: Drafted in twenty sixteen, He's only twenty seven years old

1160
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: as of this taping. Somehow, Joey Bosa is only twenty seven.

1161
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: No, Joey's is only going to get to stop with

1162
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: the rest of his teammates twenty seven nothing.

1163
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, Yeah, I'm an idiot. I thought you

1164
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: were talking about the NFC Championship game. Was it's to

1165
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 2: twenty seven?

1166
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: Nothing?

1167
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: I think Joey was hurt for that game. He missed

1168
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: most of the last season. You gotta stay healthy, Joey.

1169
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: But those are great football play If I'm gonna finish

1170
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: with a larger point, all right, football, the dichotomy of football, Dan,

1171
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: I'll try to make this quick.

1172
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: Now, let's end with this one. I like this.

1173
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: Go ahead, We're gonna end. It appeals to everyone because

1174
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: it's sort of the biggest, dumbest spectacle of a sport.

1175
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: We have a sport that like my mom can just

1176
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: kind of jump in once a week you don't have

1177
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: to know that much about or my eight year old

1178
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: son can jump in, and they like the hits, they

1179
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: like the action, they like the touchdowns, and it's their

1180
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: favorite sport. It's my mom's favorite sport, it's my son's

1181
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: favorite sport. But on another level, it's sort of the

1182
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: hardest sport to understand. We cover this stuff every day

1183
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: for twenty years, and honestly, I will never totally understand it.

1184
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of the way that every play

1185
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: and everything that you would need to know to understand

1186
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: what happens on every play, It's basically impossible. And even

1187
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: if you are coaching you do understand it on the

1188
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: most granular level possible. Even for those guys, it is

1189
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: always changing, It is always evolving, It is always changing

1190
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: from one year to the next, so you have to

1191
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: stay totally on top of it or you get left

1192
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: behind it. And even those guys who do stay on

1193
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: top of it, they can't be watching every snap of

1194
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle of every team, so it's sort of endless.

1195
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: That's why we love the Baldis of the world, because

1196
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: they're at least out there trying to see and know everything.

1197
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: But even Baldy would admit, like he can't be watching everything.

1198
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 2: He doesn't know everything that's going on, So it works

1199
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: as this basic sport that appeals to everyone, but it

1200
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: also appeals to the connoisseur, the person that wants to

1201
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: dive in and be as smart about it as humanly possible.

1202
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a sport for those types too, and

1203
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: you will never get to the bottom of it if

1204
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: you want to just study it as like an intellectual exercise.

1205
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: So it works on both fronts. And oh, by the

1206
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: way it rates.

1207
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: It puts the meat in de seats and I mean

1208
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: both at the stadiums and on the couches. Yeah, that's

1209
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: so true. I loathe to even bring it up because

1210
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 1: it's my least favorite thing. You never played the game

1211
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: card that a pro athlete will play with the media,

1212
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: But it is honest. Football is one sport where you

1213
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: really these guys that come out of the league and

1214
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: then go into broadcasting, if they do it right, they

1215
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: have such a huge advantage. I think that's part of

1216
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: what made Tony Romo so great when he first started,

1217
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: is because he knew the league. He was just in

1218
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: the league and he was just dissecting it because he

1219
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: had kind of mastered the sport from that side of things,

1220
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: and then he was bringing it to the audiences and

1221
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: like you if you love to try to like learn

1222
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: about the league in a different way, when you have

1223
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: somebody like the young Romo broadcaster throwing that stuff at you,

1224
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: it's like catnip. But it's also you could tell and

1225
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up any names the guys

1226
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: that try to coast on that, and then they get

1227
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: further away from their playing career and they they telling

1228
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: themselves so quickly and they're almost betrayed by this thing, like, well,

1229
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: I played the game, so I don't need to do

1230
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: the work, like if you don't keep watching and trying

1231
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: to learn where the league's going. Because how much is

1232
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: greg how much is football change since when we start

1233
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: doing the podcast to where it is now, That's what

1234
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean. It's remarkable.

1235
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: It's not that basketball doesn't change. It changes, but I

1236
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: think schematically in terms of coatball is completely different than basketball.

1237
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: It changes baseball, I mean, it doesn't change as much.

1238
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: Baseball doesn't change as much. And even to the point

1239
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: of those players who really do understand the x's and

1240
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: know is better. One thing I realized being young doing

1241
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: this is like, yeah, they might understand all that, but

1242
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: they don't know like the thirty two depth charts. They're

1243
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: not really following along. If like this guy is having

1244
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: a great season, this guy isn't on a season scene

1245
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: base just because it's impossible to cover everything. That's why

1246
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: it to me, it's it's a great sport to cover

1247
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: because it's endless.

1248
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: It is good one Gregy Again, it's fourth of July

1249
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: here in the United States, and everyone be careful.

1250
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: We still went over an hour. We've managed to turn

1251
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: be honked for over now.

1252
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: Everybody have a great time with their friends and family,

1253
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: and Greg, please get home safely with you your family

1254
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 1: and enjoy the rest of your trip. Will be away,

1255
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: like I said, until a week from Thursday. So this

1256
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: is the only time of the year where we're dark

1257
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: for this amount of time. And then we'll slowly start

1258
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: to ramp things up and we have a big year

1259
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: coming up with a lot of exciting things that have

1260
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: been going on behind the scenes. Greg, how many meetings

1261
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: have we been in at the old mother Ship and

1262
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: phone calls and things that we usually try not to

1263
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: be involved with because we like to be a self

1264
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: sustaining organism. But we've been working hard as we look

1265
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: to figure out what is the next stage of around

1266
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: the NFL as we entered decade two and we're excited

1267
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: about what's coming up. We're not gonna share everything right now,

1268
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: but we're excited.

1269
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have been. We have planned more this offseason.

1270
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a sign of our maturity I think about

1271
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: what's coming up, maybe not than any off season I

1272
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: can remember. And if you like around the NFL, I

1273
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: think it's safe to say the world be as much

1274
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: or more around the NFL content for you coming up

1275
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: this season as ever before.

1276
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: If it's not, if it's not crap to us, it

1277
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: won't be crap to you. We're gonna put the work

1278
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: in and we're going to continue.

1279
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: We are One day that could be an NFL slogan.

1280
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: You like doing that, you know, that could be your

1281
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: NFL slogan maybe if.

1282
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: We we care and we are looking to keep this

1283
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: thing going in an exciting way. So thank you everybody

1284
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: for listening. Enjoy your time with your family. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're good out there wherever you are, Buddy,

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Speaker 1: I think he's back on a boat. He's on the

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Speaker 1: sea again, which is fore boating.

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Speaker 2: Shock intern of development, Mark becoming a seaman.

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Speaker 1: But all right, everybody, Yes, Happy fourth of July. Until

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Speaker 1: we meet again, you know what you gotta do. Heed

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Speaker 1: the call,