1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 5: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 5: on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 5: Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, October first, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 6: episode number thirty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 6: The Break. We are live from s WBC Mortgage Studios 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 6: at the Star, presented by LGLG is the world's number 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 6: one o leed TV brand for eleven years in countingcy wide, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 6: LG dot Com, Fort Slash, o, led Evo. 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 6: Let's talk some how Boys football today. It's one more 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 6: day before we get back into a game. It seems 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 6: like forever because we talked about the last game last Friday, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 6: and so yesterday and today we're just kind of like meandering. 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: A little bit, but we got some things to talk about. 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 6: We will have a little segment of going inside the 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 6: brain of Brian brought us. 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: He has some questions today and as every week. 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 6: I'm very very very afraid you're gonna love it, very 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 6: afraid as usual. 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: But we'll get to that. It's gonna be a quick 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: segment segment. Wow, the producer. 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: Chiming in on you there know me too well? 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: By the way, can you look up for me for 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: a second? 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: Are gone? Yeah? Yeah? 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: I was about to say, wow, is this another bet payoffs? 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: I lost. 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 7: I picked the I had the Cleveland Browns on one three. 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 7: The fan we have we have a survivor pool and when. 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 6: You uh, when you I'm just looking at the camera 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 6: the screen there, it does like better on the screen. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, survivor pool. I am actually and this 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 7: is hard to believe. Four weeks in NFL season, I'm 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 7: zero to four. I've had to do a bet payoff 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 7: every single week. I think the next one I have 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 7: to dress up like missed out fire please please okay? 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 8: I up? 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 9: God? 48 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: Please no, please do it on our show too? Can 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: you please just wear there? 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 7: This is one of the things because this weekend, we're 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 7: this Friday, we're on remote and it's usually a Friday 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 7: bet payoff. And the reason why I didn't do it 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 7: last week was because I didn't want to embarrass the cowboys. 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 7: I didn't want to show up, you know, like, Okay, 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 7: what are you doing, you know, like, why are you 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 7: showing up like you look like Missus Doubtfire and then 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 7: do the show and then people wondering because you know, 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 7: this is a big time program. I didn't want to 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 7: like be slapstick guy, but here the boss of the 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 7: whole thing is telling me to be slash. 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: I will explain to all of our audience what's happening, 62 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 6: so it won't be like that. 63 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: I guess I will. Oh, yeah, I would. I'm down 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: for that. 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 6: And by the way, I'm sure the fans would be 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 6: down to see you dressed as Missus doubt Fire. And 67 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 6: by the way, if you haven't, go google Missus. It's 68 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 6: a movie from back in the nineteen ninety. 69 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so go check that out. 70 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: And Robin Williams, Robin Williams, you could see exactly. 71 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: What Brian is doing. 72 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and uh, you know, it'll be fun for our 73 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 6: show too. I would definitely have some fun. 74 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: I was calling into a g bag on Friday, not 75 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: knowing that they were doing this quadruple bet payoff, and 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: I hop on, you know, just waiting on the call 77 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: and they're introducing me. But before they introduced me, they 78 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: had to do Eric. She follows Bet Payoff, which his 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 4: was peeing down his leg. 80 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: He peeding his pants in the studio. He stood up. 81 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 10: Wow, we were talking to listen. I'm like, what's going 82 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 10: on here? 83 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: He actually went to the men's room on himself while 84 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: on purpose? On purpose? Yeah, he said, y'all off the rails. 85 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: I thought we were off. 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 7: The rail whole the whole interview, Like he's talking to 87 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 7: Nick and he's using the men's room on himself. 88 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 8: Like he what his pants and everything? 89 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 90 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 10: Everything, yeah, everything, khaki pants too. You could see then. 91 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't need the vision. 92 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: Like we we pigs feet. 93 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: We like, yeah, I heard you, guys, pigs feet. 94 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 7: I ate the Nitro gummy one time, which is nine 95 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 7: hundred times stronger than a jalapeno. 96 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Nitro game. 97 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 10: You need to get you checked. I know, right, we 98 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 10: need to get was going to say about sounds like that. 99 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: How about I pick a damn game, you know, I'm 100 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: oh and four. 101 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 8: Like every week interviews, the ratings through the roof. 102 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: We're having a good We're having a good time over there. 103 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: They're going down. 104 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 8: It's tough though. 105 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: It gets the point. 106 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 7: We have a list of things you can do, and 107 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 7: they're all terrible things. And uh but yeah, I'm like 108 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 7: running out of things to like, I feel like I'm 109 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 7: running out of the list of things to do. 110 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's incredible, bad thing. 111 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 6: Say what I'm gonna do? Brian, here's you got? You 112 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 6: got this doubt? Why don't why don't you? Why don't 113 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: you real quickly tell people where they can listen to 114 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 6: you guys on yeah five. 115 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're on from two to seven, seven, every two 116 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 7: seven and every day the g Bag Nation and I 117 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 7: have a segment called Krusty's Corner which is at three 118 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 7: forty which and you can listen to Nick on Fridays 119 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 7: and it comes on with us on Fridays and does 120 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 7: great work. But yeah, we're two to seven every day. 121 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 7: I do Crusty's Corner. It generally cowboy related scouting reports 122 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 7: or like today if the Cowboys sign a guy, maybe 123 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 7: they sign a guy, will maybe they sign. 124 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: A guy, maybe they. 125 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Sign a guy. 126 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 7: At three forty day you get a scounting report. I 127 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 7: talked about some guys you could sign yesterday. Yeah, so 128 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 7: stay tuned to Dallascowboys dot Com and to one four 129 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 7: Star Telegram and win O five to three the fam. 130 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty of options out there. 131 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, plenty of options. We're all team, We're all teammates. 132 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: We are we absolutely all right. Let's talk about I 133 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: had a couple of questions for you, guys. 134 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: We're gonna hit real quick before we get to our 135 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 6: first break and then go inside the mind of Brian 136 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 6: brought us. Let's first start with the first quarter recap 137 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 6: questions that I had for you. 138 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: What would you like to see from. 139 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 6: Each coordinator over the second quarter of the season to 140 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 6: improve their units. 141 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: Let's start first with Mike McCarthy. 142 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 10: Okay, to say McCarthy or Shottenheimer here now we're. 143 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Talking, well, let's say MacCarthy. He's calling the players. 144 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 6: Let's say maccarth And by the way, you can do 145 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 6: it as a group, just say the offensive coordinators or 146 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 6: the guys that are responsible for the coordinating of the offense. 147 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 10: The offensive decision makers. 148 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think on the offensive side of the ball, 149 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: I just want to see more creativity. I think when 150 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 4: you have a running game that is non useful, when 151 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: you have a passing game that is a little stagnant times, 152 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: especially in second halves of games. I think all you 153 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 4: need to do is just up the creativity, whether that 154 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: be in the run game, you know, opening up some 155 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: different type of running lanes for guys like Rico Doubt 156 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: or Douce Fawn or even Ezekiel Elliott. In the past game, 157 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: you utilize some more pre snap motion. They have been 158 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: bottom in the one of the bottom teams in the 159 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: league and utilizing pre snap motion through these first four weeks. 160 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 10: I just want to see a little bit more creativity. 161 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: It's been you go, you line up, you get in 162 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: a very traditional formation, and you run the traditional route, 163 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: and it's been very predictable. And I think that's why 164 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: we look at second halves of games. Teams are able 165 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: to adjust a lot easier to the offensive side of 166 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: the ball, and that's why we haven't necessarily seen a 167 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: ton of production from the offensive side of the ball 168 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: and second halves other than that fourth quarter against Baltimore. 169 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: So I think you look around on the offense side 170 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: of the ball, just creativity. 171 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 10: Brian has said it perfectly. 172 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: He's like, I think we need to get some guys 173 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: in the in the scouting department to go look at 174 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: McVeigh shanahan and pull plays from. 175 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 10: Them every week. 176 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: It would be fantastic. I think it just pull some creativity, 177 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: find some creativity. Eye browless, Brian. 178 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 8: I'll just see Brian smile right now, Brian, Bryan. 179 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 10: Face there, I go. 180 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: I give you that Uncle Fester family. 181 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 10: It's so terrifying. I can't lie. 182 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 8: Oh my god. 183 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 9: No. 184 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 8: I absolutely agree with the creativity part of it, but 185 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 8: also preparation, prepare better, you know, during the week, And 186 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 8: that's something that's come up already like this, what are 187 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 8: you doing during the week to prepare for the game 188 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 8: ahead of you? We've seen this offense and of course 189 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 8: you had a different person in the last season with 190 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 8: different players now playing for you, but you've seen how 191 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 8: certain players can be effective. You know you have talent 192 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 8: on the team. Now bring it all together. Why does 193 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 8: it take so many games for your offense to get going? 194 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 8: Why can't And I say this like it's very easy, 195 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 8: but going back to how the season ended, not counting 196 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 8: Green Bay, but prior to that second half of the 197 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 8: year last year, last season, your offense was being very productive. 198 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 8: It was running and it was fast, and everybody was 199 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 8: connecting and Dak was playing a very very good game. 200 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 8: So I'm just I'm just wondering, like, why is it 201 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 8: so hard to kind of jump back on track to 202 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 8: where you were, where you kind of left off. 203 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 11: Could it be that your best offensive player wasn't a 204 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 11: training camp. 205 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 8: I mean absolutely, that's an option there. He was absent, 206 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 8: and you notice how that actually did affect the connection 207 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 8: with Dak Prescott and I think last game. I think 208 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 8: he started showing some progress there this last game, and 209 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 8: hopefully this is the turning point where things start. We 210 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 8: call this the forty nine ers game where it was 211 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 8: the turning point last year for Ceedee, Lamb and Dak. 212 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 8: Hopefully it happened last week. But I would say, just 213 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 8: prepare better, whatever that means. There's no reason why anybody 214 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 8: should question the way you practice during the week. 215 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: We can talk about the defense here too, can't we. 216 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna get to them. We're gonna start with 217 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: the offense and want. 218 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 7: To see I get confused every once in a while, 219 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 7: have to be put on the right path. The thing 220 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 7: that I want to see is that we the creativity part. 221 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 7: I think you guys nailed it totally. I want to 222 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 7: see an offense that doesn't feel like it's struggling to 223 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 7: get yards, you know. I mean, maybe it's the execution, 224 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 7: maybe it's the play calling, maybe it's the actual plays itself. 225 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 7: But why would I watch everybody else? It feels like 226 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 7: their offense just flows, you know, and maybe that maybe 227 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 7: the Lions are a bad example last night, you know, 228 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 7: maybe that's a bad I mean, Ben Johnson when he 229 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 7: gets that thing on the rails, it is really pretty 230 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 7: to watch, you know, you watch him, You watch the 231 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 7: guy in San Francisco, you watch the guy in Miami's 232 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 7: having some problems right now because his quarterback's out, you know. 233 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 7: But I just what I'd love to see them find 234 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 7: a way to do is make this offense easy again. 235 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 7: There was times when Dak you know, and sometimes it 236 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 7: happens when you play the Commanders back in the day, 237 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 7: or the Giants back in the day, or you play 238 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 7: teams that don't have the personnel to kind of match. 239 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: You, the offense just looks beautiful. 240 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just Dak gets They're moving the balls 241 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 7: going across the field. Though there's a tight end delay, 242 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 7: there's a you know, there's there's things about it that 243 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 7: just flows, and it doesn't seem like that. 244 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: It's a grind. 245 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 7: I feel like right now I'm watching an offense that's grinding, 246 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 7: you know, and I mean grinding in a bad way. 247 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 7: That they don't second down first downs, you know, first 248 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 7: down first downs, you know, big plays, explosive plays. I 249 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 7: just feel like it's kind of a it's like getting 250 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 7: in third and two all day. You know, it just 251 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 7: isn't It isn't flowing like it needs And I wish 252 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 7: he could find that flow. I wish he could find 253 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 7: it where it's easy again, for the quarterback, for the receiver, 254 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 7: the tight. 255 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: End, the line, everybody involved. Just a little bit of 256 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: a just an. 257 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 7: Easier way of manipulating offense because the way the rules are, 258 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 7: they'll let you manipulate offense. But you got to take 259 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 7: advantage of that. With the picks and things like that. 260 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 7: You can kind of set yourself up with. 261 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: Let's flip over to the defensive side. 262 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 6: What would you like to see from a Zimmer and 263 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 6: the defense going into second half? What would you like 264 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 6: to coordinate or to maybe do differently. 265 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: I just want to see consistency, whatever that looks like 266 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: from a coordinator perspective, consistency with the front specifically. I mean, 267 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: we talked yesterday about Mazzie Smith and him having an 268 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: awesome game on Thursday night, but it's it's about stacking 269 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: those games for their actual actually be confidence going forward 270 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: in the defensive front without having Micah Parsons DeMarcus Lawrence 271 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 4: for these next few weeks, consistency is going to be 272 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: more important now than ever with guys like Marshawn Neil 273 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: and Chauncey Golston, Tyrs Sweet and anyone else that they 274 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: might sign. 275 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 10: As time goes on. 276 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: But even in the secondary, I mean we can look 277 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: at the secondary too, there's been some inconsistencies there. Is 278 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: it a product of having a rookie fifth round pick 279 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: on one of your corners, absolutely, But on that same token, 280 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: you're getting Deron Blandbeck, you would think in the next 281 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, probably before the bye week. So once 282 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: you get him back, okay, well then there's no excuse 283 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: to not stack consistency there in the secondary moving forward, 284 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: but specifically at the safety position, I feel like that's 285 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: been at times some of the most inconsistent group, one 286 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: of the more inconsistent groups, just because you know, they 287 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: allow a big pass player. They allow a running running 288 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: back to be able to break off with a huge 289 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: game because they take a bad angle. So again, I 290 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: think the defensive side of the ball had a great 291 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: game on Thursday night. It's just about stacking those games. 292 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: Consistency is so important moving forward. 293 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 8: I hate this question because I don't have an answer 294 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 8: because right now, after how you left that game, and again, 295 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 8: I know these are the two key players right now 296 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 8: with as far as injuries, DeMarcus Lawrence and Mike parts 297 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 8: Band coming back throwing him being out. Yeah, but even then, 298 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 8: I'm curious to see how the practice report looks like 299 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 8: this week because there were plenty of other guys that 300 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 8: also came out at a certain time, and we know 301 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 8: that they can go back and finish a game, but 302 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 8: then during the week something pops up. So I'm curious 303 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 8: to see how long that list is going to be. 304 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 8: And I feel like the defense right now is just 305 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 8: in survival mode. It's like, okay, do we even have 306 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 8: enough guys to be out there? So I don't know 307 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 8: what my advice or opinion is as far as what 308 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 8: to do with Mike Zimmer other than try to keep 309 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 8: this defense together and everyone really focused on doing their job. 310 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 8: If there was something to point out, and something that 311 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 8: was talked about prior to last game was everyone focusing 312 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 8: on their own role. But can you actually do that 313 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 8: when you have so many younger players in there that 314 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 8: potentially do need help from the veteran guy next to them. 315 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 8: So it's just it's a tough moment for this defense 316 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 8: right now, and I don't know what the answer is currently. 317 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would like to see them and this is 318 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 7: going to sound crazy because right now they're not a 319 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 7: very good group. I want to see people start to 320 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 7: throw the ball on you again, because you're built to 321 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 7: rush the passer. Here now we're down guys. So it 322 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 7: seems like forever the strength of this team is its 323 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 7: ability to rush the passer. And then all of a 324 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 7: sudden there's no pass rush. Why is there no pass rush? 325 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 7: Because you're getting the ball run on you? You know, 326 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 7: I mean much better last week. You saw what happened though, 327 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 7: when you can force somebody to throw the ball. The 328 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 7: Giants had to throw. Yeah, the Giants made some plays 329 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: on you, but it wasn't this constant just running the 330 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 7: ball down your throat type of a situation. So Mike's 331 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 7: gonna need some magic. 332 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: He really really is. 333 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 7: He's banged up bad. And it's not an excuse. It's 334 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 7: just it's the NFL and you you got to figure 335 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 7: out how you know, I mean, these guys that are 336 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 7: rookies aren't really rookies anymore. 337 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: This is week five of the NFL season. 338 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 7: You know, you know, overshown and those guys who have 339 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 7: played kneeling, you know that haven't played, they played five games. 340 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 7: You know, you're not really a rookie anymore. You gotta 341 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: go play, Carson, you gotta go play. You know, we 342 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 7: don't have time. 343 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: I mean, like say, watching Detroit last night. 344 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 7: I'm terrified watching them play, you know, because they've got 345 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 7: these receivers, they got a running game. 346 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: They're coming in here in a couple of weeks. 347 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're gonna play Pittsburgh, who traditionally is a very 348 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 7: physical team the way they play, and you're gonna probably 349 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 7: get beat up in that game. And so these next 350 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 7: two weeks going to be a huge challenge for Mike 351 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 7: Zimmer in this in this staff. But they need every 352 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 7: one of those guys that we call rookie players to 353 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 7: play white veterans and not not be any liabilities, uh 354 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 7: to hopefully getting them off the field. 355 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I want to see from from 356 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 6: the defensive coordinator particularly is I want to see him 357 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 6: get a little more creative and how they're going to 358 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 6: generate a pass rush. 359 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 11: I think they have to at this point. 360 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 6: I don't think they can line up and say, hey, 361 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 6: we're going to bring our four and that's how we're 362 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 6: going to run it. I think he's going to have 363 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: to come use safeties. 364 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 11: You'll have to use. 365 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: Tach cornerbacks, slot have to use the linebackers. Uh, They'll 366 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 6: have to do everything they can creatively. 367 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: Not but they got him to pass. 368 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's the thing. 369 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 6: The hope is that what we saw last week from 370 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 6: the standpoint of the running game stopping the running game 371 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: can continue. And if they can continue that, if you 372 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 6: can get Mozzi to keep playing like he has like 373 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 6: he did last week, I think that's a big start 374 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: right right, And if you can then use and I 375 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 6: think Neiland will be fine as a as a run defender. 376 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 6: I think Golston can be fine as a run defender. 377 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 6: So if they can continue what they started last week 378 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 6: in the run or stopping the run, then it becomes 379 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 6: a situation of how do you create pressure and if 380 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 6: they're creative and how they're bringing pressure. 381 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: I think that may help them at. 382 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 6: Least give you a few weeks to get by without 383 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 6: the likes of of of Michael Parsons. 384 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 11: We know it's going to be long before DeMarcus Who is. 385 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 10: This team's best pass rusher right now? Is it Chauncey golsten. 386 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: Well? 387 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 10: Is it to Marvin Overshown. 388 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 6: I was about to say it's probably one of the linebackers. 389 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 6: It might be Osa, it could be might be your 390 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 6: best pass rusher. 391 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: He started the year really hot last year in the 392 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: LAS rush department. I think he racked up three sacks 393 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: in the first five games and then he just went away. 394 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 10: So I did a lot of pressures. 395 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 7: He needs Mazie to keep playing well next to him though, 396 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 7: I mean that would that would help a lot. 397 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, they don't. 398 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 7: You're I think to Derek's point is you're gonna have 399 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 7: to bring more than four. You know, you're gonna have 400 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 7: to find ways to create opportunities without without looking at Pittsburgh, 401 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 7: but just TV copy stuff. I'll get on them this evening. 402 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 7: Know with the offense, make fields throw the football. 403 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: You know, I'll take my chances. 404 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 7: Don't let him beat me running the ball, you know, 405 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 7: don't let me. Don't let me have to deal with that. 406 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 7: Make him drop back and have to read field and 407 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 7: throw ball. 408 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 11: He's the most dangerous runner they got to Yeah. 409 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 7: That's that's what I'm saying. I mean there, But they're 410 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 7: down offensive lineman. 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All right, let's go inside the eyebrowless 483 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 6: mind of Brian brought us. 484 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: What you got for is Brian, I do. 485 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 7: I've got some questions for you guys. Hope it makes 486 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 7: you think a little bit. And by the way, I 487 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 7: don't give these. 488 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: Guys these questions if you're wondering out there. 489 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 7: So this is kind of off the top of their heads, 490 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 7: which I appreciate a lot. 491 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 6: You know what else, I'll just mention real quick. You 492 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 6: mentioned one O five dot three the fan. I've noticed 493 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 6: sometimes you use us as guinea pisces because you'll take our. 494 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 3: Question, this question. 495 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 6: Those over there, and I'm hearing those guys, I'm like, 496 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 6: they didn't have our answers. 497 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: No, That's what I love about it. I guess you 498 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: get all kinds of answer. You get all different platforms too. 499 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 7: If everybody listens to you on all these platforms, you're 500 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 7: on the good for them. Yeah, but it kind of 501 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 7: if you depend on what platform you're on. Nick Carris, 502 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 7: I'll start with you on this one. If you could 503 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 7: ask Jerry Jones or Mike McCarthy one question and get 504 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 7: an in depth, honest answer, what would it be. 505 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 10: The question I asked last week? 506 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 7: No, let me, you're gonna get an If you asked 507 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 7: this question, you're going to get an in depth, honest 508 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 7: answer about it. 509 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: In depth, honest to answer. Is there really confidence in 510 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: the running back situation right now? Is there actually confidence 511 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: in the running back situation? And that that factors in 512 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook, that factors in everybody that's on the team 513 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: right now, that factors in draft strategy from from last 514 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: April where how has the running game gotten to this 515 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 4: point and how is there still confidence moving forward? I 516 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: would love to hear an honest answer on that. I 517 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: don't feel I don't feel like that will That'll be 518 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: one though. 519 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: You don't feel like you don't feel like because they 520 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: do talk about it. 521 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: Oh, surely they talk about it, but there's no way 522 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: they actually feel that there's that much confidence. 523 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: But the in depth, honestly answer, I'm looking at you 524 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: guys for no Derek, what you got on that one? 525 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 7: If you can ask Jerry Jones or Mike McCarthy one 526 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 7: question and get an in depth, honest answer, would that question. 527 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 6: It would be along the lines of what Nick asked, 528 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 6: but it would be why why weren't they able to 529 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 6: go after one of those running backs in free agency 530 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 6: in the offseason. I heard somebody say this the other day, 531 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 6: and I haven't checked these numbers, so forgive me if 532 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 6: they aren't completely accurate. But the amount of money that 533 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 6: right now Trey Lance counts on the salary cap against 534 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 6: the salary cap is very close to the amount of 535 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 6: money Dereck Henry is counting against the salary cap in Baltimore. Sure, 536 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 6: And so then the question becomes like how much. 537 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 8: I mean, were they sure they were gonna do the 538 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 8: deal with no, no, no. 539 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: And again. And that's the point, and there's a lot 540 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: of this. 541 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 6: That's why I would want to have a real in 542 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 6: depth conversation, like walk me through where you guys were 543 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 6: at that time, because I know right now it's easy 544 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 6: in retrospect to say that you didn't know what the 545 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 6: deal was going to end up being with DAK, you 546 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 6: didn't know what the deal was going to end up 547 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 6: being with CD so, but I would love to just 548 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 6: sit and be able to talk from that standpoint of Okay, 549 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 6: talk me through where you were on the cap at 550 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 6: that point and why you didn't think you could come 551 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: up with the right amount of money to go out 552 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 6: and get in. And I'm not talking about Derek Henry specifically, 553 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 6: I'm just saying in general, the running backs that were 554 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 6: out there this last offseason, there were a number of them, 555 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 6: and even some that were relatively cheap. Why couldn't you 556 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 6: find that money to be able to do that? And 557 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 6: were you really sold that what you already had, whether 558 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: that be with Rico or whether that be with bringing 559 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 6: in Zeke or with douce Von, Like what did they 560 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 6: change that opinion for you because you looked at them 561 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 6: and you said, I really have a good feeling about 562 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 6: one of them, so there's no need to go out 563 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 6: and spend in free agency. I'd really love to know 564 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: a little more about how that came about. 565 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: Trey Lance's cap number five point three million for twenty 566 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 4: twenty four, Dereck Henry five point one million. But the 567 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: factor is next year's cap number for Dereck. 568 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 10: Henry's nearly eleven. So that's that's probably. 569 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: What could that have been? 570 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 7: Something too with if you look at what the dead 571 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 7: money you owe Zeke plus the current money, if you 572 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 7: add those two together eight Yeah. Does that that that 573 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 7: hurts you? I mean, is that one of the reasons 574 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 7: why they couldn't do it? Because they deterred They said, Okay, 575 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 7: we got Zeke dead money plus the money we're gonna 576 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 7: give him for being on the roster. 577 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: Well, we heard Jerry say, I think it was during 578 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 6: training camp he said with Zeke, well, some of that 579 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 6: money's already spent. Yeah, And I think that's what he 580 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 6: was talking about, was like they got dead money on him, 581 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 6: so it's almost like, you know, we're already paying for him, 582 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 6: so you might as well have him back that you're 583 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 6: already paying for it, right, But I think I remembered 584 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 6: him saying that during training camp that he says something 585 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 6: to that effect. 586 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 7: But hey, g you got something for me on that one. 587 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 7: One question you could ask the boss man and the coach. 588 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 8: Well, I do like the running back question that Nick proposed, 589 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 8: But something else that I would want to know is like, 590 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 8: why did it actually take so long to get a 591 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 8: deal done with CD? Because you already knew you wanted 592 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 8: him here, You could already expect I mean by that time, 593 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 8: earlier on than training camp, you had an idea of 594 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 8: what that number was going to look like. So what 595 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 8: was the point? And you've seen it happen with other 596 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 8: ends during the time we were talking about people holding 597 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 8: out that history has shown that they do end up 598 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 8: paying the player, So why wait when you knew how 599 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 8: much the crucial aspect of this season, everything that's on 600 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 8: the line, you're saying all in and all of this 601 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 8: and city not happening. I mean, now you're seeing the 602 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 8: effects of it. But yeah, that one was one that 603 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 8: I guess I still have questions in my head, like 604 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 8: why why did it actually take that long. 605 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 606 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 7: I think mine is is you always say that personnel 607 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 7: is a three sixty five twenty four to seven job. 608 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 7: It kind of seems like personnel around here is a 609 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 7: January to the end of April job. You know, when 610 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 7: you look when you start to talk about now, hey, 611 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 7: they they're working on something to help their team. I 612 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 7: mean that, well, we can't get into right now. But 613 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 7: I just wonder, I mean, is it really with that 614 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 7: or are you just so draft dependent that you just say, 615 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 7: you know what, we can't we can't do anything, you know. 616 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: And I'd love for them. 617 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 7: To somebody to say, like to Jerry, to say, we 618 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 7: believe in the draft, we want to work the draft. 619 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 7: We don't want to we've been burned in free agency before. 620 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 7: We don't want to play in free agency. If somebody 621 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 7: would come out and tell me that, then I would 622 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 7: have a better feel for you know, I like to me, personnel, 623 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 7: when you say it's three sixty five twenty four seven, 624 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 7: I believe you. That's pro personnel, that's college, that's everything involved. 625 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: You know, at times I don't feel that's really the 626 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: case here. 627 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 6: You know, I'll throw this little caveat copy caveat at 628 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 6: you I don't know if it stops at April, it 629 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 6: just takes a hiatus in at the end of it, 630 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: oh yeapl and. 631 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 10: Then it doesn't. 632 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 6: It doesn't happen during free agency, but then it starts 633 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 6: back up in August, because in August they'll go out 634 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 6: and get those bargain change that. 635 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, It's just I wonder if it really you know, 636 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 7: because you're really really good at this draft and stuff, 637 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 7: and at times you could be really good at this 638 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 7: pro personnel stuff, you know, but it just seems like 639 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 7: to me, it's not. 640 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: Always March is not their time, not marches at their time. 641 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 7: All right, Derek, I got a question for you here. 642 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 7: All right, what's the biggest thing holding this team. 643 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: Back as of right now? It would have to be 644 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 6: the defense. And what I mean by that is I 645 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: still have to see more to believe that the run 646 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 6: defense is fixed. And now you've just exacerbated that problem 647 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 6: because you've lost your two best pass defenders and and 648 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 6: and a really good run defender in in in tank. 649 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 6: So those two things I think right now, the biggest 650 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 6: problem they have right now is their defense. Their offense 651 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 6: just needs to get clicking. I think their offense is very, 652 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: very capable, and if they're gonna win games during this period, 653 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 6: they're gonna have to outscore a lot of teams. So 654 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 6: I have faith in the offense that they'll get it right. 655 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 6: The defense, though, I'm very, very, very worried. 656 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 8: About, Hey, g biggest thing holding this team back, I 657 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 8: mean injuries at the moment. But other than that, and 658 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 8: other than the defense, I mean, I have to go 659 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 8: with the running game. And we've already were tired of 660 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 8: talking about it, but it's like we're heading we're in 661 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 8: what week five now, and you've had plenty of time. Yes, 662 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 8: you've had plenty of time, I feel like to try 663 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 8: different things with the running game and even see what 664 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 8: you have in Dalvin Cook, and you haven't tried that yet. 665 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 8: So it just sometimes you see them making certain choices 666 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 8: or decisions that just doesn't make a lot of sense 667 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 8: to the outsider. And I get it. It's different perspective 668 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 8: from in there where you're seeing every single practice full 669 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 8: on and being with these guys. But as a viewer, 670 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 8: as an spectator, did I say that a spectator? You 671 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 8: scratch your hand, You're like, what are we doing here? 672 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 8: Why don't you you know? So it's just we shouldn't 673 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 8: be at this point in Week five trying to figure 674 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 8: out how this offense can score more points. Last week 675 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 8: they did okay, they scored two touchdowns, but at the 676 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 8: same time, it was against the Giants that you expected 677 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 8: them to or me to be a lot better and 678 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 8: it wasn't there. So I think it's just gonna be. 679 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 8: It's gonna get tougher with the next upcoming teams. 680 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: Nick biggest thing holding this team back. 681 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing from as I probably 682 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: would have said in Week eighteen last year. And no 683 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: one likes this label being put on them, So it's 684 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: probably gonna ruffle a couple of feathers because I've tried 685 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: touching this topic with certain players. 686 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 10: They didn't like it. 687 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: But this is not a physical football team. It's not 688 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: a physical football team on either side of the ball. 689 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: And when you look at it on paper, they can't 690 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: run the ball, they can't stop the run, there's discipline issues. 691 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: This is not a physical football team. And I think 692 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 4: if they can up the physicality and they can have 693 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: a reputation like a Pittsburgh you know, like when you say, yeah, 694 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 4: they're gonna go play Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's gonna beat you up 695 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: because they're no to do that. No one's saying that 696 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: about the Cowboys. They haven't said about the Cowboys in 697 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 4: a long time. I think that is the biggest thing 698 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: holding this team back, because when you look at teams 699 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: that are still playing late in January or in February, 700 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: the Chiefs are going to beat you up. Forty nine 701 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 4: Ers are going to beat you up. The Lions, the Bengals, 702 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: the Ravens, whatever it is. Those teams are physical, and 703 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 4: those teams are typically the ones that are playing deep 704 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: into the playoffs. I think that's the biggest thing holding 705 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: this team back. And it would take a lot, i think, 706 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: and it would be a multi year problem solution to 707 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: be able to fix that problem going forward. 708 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 6: And you know, it's interesting you look at a team 709 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: like Detroit and that head coach Dan Campbell, and when 710 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 6: he got there, one of the things he talked about, 711 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 6: it's kind of obviously became a meme, but he's. 712 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: Like, we're biting me. 713 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna be physical, we're gonna be mean, we're 714 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: gonna be tough. That wasn't what they were when he 715 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 6: got there. But i'd be darned if right now they 716 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 6: are exactly that. Right now that they are a physical 717 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 6: football team, they get after you and and so to 718 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 6: your point, I do wonder if you know certain coaches 719 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 6: have just the way of creating that physical whatever that is. 720 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 12: Yeah, right, And I don't. 721 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 6: Know what it is, but I know when he got 722 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 6: there it wasn't that. And what I know now is 723 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 6: it is so somehow that coach, whether it was the 724 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 6: types of players that they brought in, personal change, whether 725 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 6: it was the mindset that he instilled in them, whether 726 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 6: it was how they practice, whether it was how they 727 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 6: trained like there could be a lot of different factors. 728 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 6: I don't know because I'm not there. I just know 729 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 6: the end product is they weren't a physical football team. 730 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 6: He said they would be a physical football team. They 731 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 6: are now a physical football team. 732 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: I think it's probably all of those factors wrapped up. 733 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: But I think more so than anything, it's personnel changes. 734 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: Because there's some guys that you have in any locker room. 735 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about this one specifically, but in any 736 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 4: locker room that are just bad apples towards certain things. 737 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 4: And I think when you look at the physicality department, 738 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 4: there's players on this team that are just not physical 739 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: and they never will be, and that's that's their play style. 740 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 4: And you know, you look up mid twenties, early thirties, 741 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: that's your play style. 742 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 10: And I don't think it can necessarily. 743 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: Be hammered into a person or hammered into a entire unit. 744 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: I think it's it starts with drafting guys who come 745 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: from programs that have that type of reputation. 746 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: But to that point, though, I would say, like if 747 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 6: we went down man for man, I would I could 748 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 6: point out some guys that their makeup to me at 749 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 6: least seems to be the physical. 750 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: Means absolutely, and Tyler Smith overshown I mean old drafted. 751 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: We talked about Bbie when he was drafted. 752 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 6: We talked about Guiding when they were drafted, Like these 753 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 6: were guys that came out of college with that that 754 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 6: reputation of being a little bit surly, right, And so 755 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 6: I wonder like, if you go man for man, it 756 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 6: seems like they got enough of those mean, physical type players. 757 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 6: So why is that not translating as you call it, 758 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 6: to that being. 759 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 10: The unit in my eyes? 760 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: And I feel like whenever you do look at it 761 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: side by side, Okay, these are all those surly players 762 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: like you mentioned, our physical guys, and these are the 763 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 4: guys who are probably not helping that department. I think 764 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: this list is impacking you a lot more at the 765 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: end of the day. But I do think whenever you 766 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: look at draft strategy over the last few years, there 767 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: has been an intention to bring in guys like that, 768 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: but I don't think that started until twenty twenty two, 769 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 4: and I think it's going to take a couple of 770 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 4: years to be able to get everybody in the building. 771 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 4: I think it happened for Detroit a little bit quicker 772 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: because they actually go out in free agency and spend 773 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 4: some money there and getting guys like David Montgomery in 774 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 4: the building or building that offensive line with guys like 775 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 4: Frank ragb right now. 776 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 6: And they've been bad for so long, they get a 777 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 6: lot of top picks too, right, yea, they get a 778 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 6: lot of top first round picks. Over time, you can 779 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 6: build something with that. 780 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they got a tough, tough coaching staff. 781 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, you look. 782 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: At you look at you know. 783 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 7: I mean Ben Johnson is a kind of a quiet guy, 784 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 7: but he goes for the throat when you watch him 785 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 7: call plays. He's got a little bit of that, you know, 786 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 7: like I bet you Dan Campbell kick clicks over on 787 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 7: that head sentence says, hey, you start running the ball. Now, 788 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 7: you can run it. Now, let's go, let's run. Let's 789 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 7: run a few plays here and and then Aaron Glenn 790 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 7: is a defensive coordinator. 791 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn is a corner. He was a tough guy. 792 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 7: So, I mean, I think a lot of it has 793 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 7: to do with how your coaching staff. I listened to 794 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 7: Jerry Jones and this morning talk about the Ravens, you know, 795 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 7: with Harrball in that group. I mean, he's like, this 796 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 7: is one of the better teams I've seen, you know, 797 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 7: us play. You know, he had a lot of respect 798 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 7: for the Ravens. We all kind of think of of 799 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 7: of John Harball is that, you know, the Ravens are 800 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 7: always tough. 801 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: They've got tough players and stuff. 802 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 7: So I like, yeah, well, see Detroit that lost all 803 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 7: those close games, and then all of a sudden they 804 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 7: went on a roll a couple of years ago where 805 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 7: they started winning close games. And then they went to 806 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 7: green Bay with nothing to play for, you know, but 807 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 7: pride and and and green Bay. All Greenby had to 808 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 7: do was win and they were in the playoffs. 809 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: Troy beat him straight up. 810 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 7: You know, I think that that kind of stuff, when 811 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 7: you go and do things like that, it makes your 812 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 7: team really believe in what you're doing. You know, So 813 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 7: I like what you did there. Okay, Ambar. Other than 814 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott, this offensive player. 815 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: Needs to be huge this next two weeks. 816 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 7: Other than Dak Prescott, this offensive player needs to be 817 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 7: huge these next two weeks. 818 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: I think that's with the Steelers and Lions games. 819 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: Oh, I got one for you. 820 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 8: Oh interesting. I think the obvious answer for me here 821 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 8: would be a guy like CD Lamb if they're find 822 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 8: their connection because we Weaving saw it last year when 823 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 8: they were connecting, they were on a roll, and that 824 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 8: even opened up other players to worry. Makes you question, Okay, 825 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 8: get that guy, the ball gets so and so the ball. 826 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 8: So I think that when CD Lamb is at his peak, 827 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 8: it just creates an opened creates more opportunity for everybody 828 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 8: on the field because now they got to worry about him, 829 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 8: and you can take advantage of that. But there are 830 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 8: plenty of other guys on the offense that you could 831 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 8: add to that list where you need them to step up. 832 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 8: But at the same time, Mike McCarthy and the way 833 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 8: he's scheming things. That's where I see the bigger problem. 834 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 8: It's a combination of McCarthy creating these plays but also 835 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 8: the players executing it. Because you've seen so many guys 836 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 8: that are talented. I mean Cavanta Turpin, another guy we 837 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 8: talked about all throughout the training camp. Training camp, Oh, 838 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 8: he's going to be a good, big weapon for this offense, 839 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden he's kind of disappeared, 840 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 8: and you don't really see much of that either. So 841 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 8: I think it's more now I just went down a spiral, 842 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 8: but I think at least get Ceedee Lamb back to 843 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 8: his peak. 844 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 10: Cur Brandy Cooks. 845 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 4: I think if if they can get Brandon Cooks involved 846 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 4: over these next two weeks, it's going to allow a 847 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 4: lot more one on one situations for Ceedee Lamb coming 848 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: off of the bye week. I think that's really important 849 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 4: going into a game like the forty nine Ers. I'm 850 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: afraid that defenses are not scared of anybody on the 851 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball other than Ceedee Lamb. 852 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 10: And I think if that continues. 853 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 4: To stack as weeks go by, and they don't put 854 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 4: respect on Brandon Cooks or Cavante Turpin or even a 855 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson. Then that's only going to make life more 856 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 4: difficult for Ceedee Lamb. I would say Rico Daubtle, but 857 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 4: I think we've established that there's not really a running game. 858 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 4: If he did have a huge two weeks, they would 859 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 4: obviously be ginormous for this offense. But I think for 860 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: looking realistically Brandon Cooks, I think if he has a 861 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 4: huge two weeks, he gets one hundred yard game, two 862 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: or three touchdowns over these next couple of weeks, then 863 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 4: it can start to open up this passing game a 864 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: little bit more and really kind of gets you taken 865 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: that next step in the passing game since your running 866 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 4: game won't do it for you. 867 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 6: Derek Eagleton, I am shocked that we went through two 868 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 6: answers and nobody said Tyler Geiden. 869 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 10: It was second. It was my look at thoughts too. 870 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: They got coming up. 871 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 10: Whatton, arguably the. 872 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 6: Best defensive player on both those teams, will probably be 873 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 6: matched up against Tyler Guiden. 874 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 10: Can I say why I didn't say that's worrisome? To 875 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 10: reason why? 876 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: I didn't know because he didn't have a huge game 877 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 4: against Cleveland, but he was serviceable. Yeah, I feel like 878 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: if he could just be serviceable these next two weeks, 879 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 4: but you get a huge game from Brandon Cooks, then 880 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 4: I feel like that would make a bigger impact. 881 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 10: That's that's the only. 882 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: Reason I understand that. 883 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 6: I guess what I'm thinking more about is your offense. 884 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: If you have to keep giving him help your offense. 885 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 6: Which they have it they did in this last game, right, 886 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 6: but they did in that first game, right, if they 887 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 6: have to do that because they're looking at this game 888 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 6: and they're like, man, those two guys. That severely limits 889 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 6: what your offense can do because now you got to 890 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 6: give him help. You got to keep guys back to 891 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 6: be able to help him out. And even at that, 892 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 6: you're probably not gonna win all the time, which we 893 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 6: just gonna change your offense. And I think, like I 894 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 6: said before, this offense is going to have to be 895 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 6: on like it's gonna have to be hyper good in 896 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 6: order to sustain the challenges that the defense is having 897 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 6: right now. And so I need Tyler guy more than 898 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 6: anybody else. I need him to handle up this week 899 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 6: and next week because that's going to give the offense 900 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 6: the best chance if CD just gets off because Tyler's 901 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 6: doing his job. I don't know if I necessarily and 902 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 6: worry too much about Brandon Cook. Quite frankly, I think 903 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 6: I would be even more like I'm looking at a 904 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 6: guy like Jayleen Tolbert, and I'm like, Jalen Tobert, give 905 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 6: me more of what you've been getting, because from what 906 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 6: I've seen the training camp throughout the beginning of the season. 907 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 6: Give him more opportunities. I'm down with that, and I 908 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 6: think he's going to make the most of them. Cavante Turpin, 909 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 6: give him more opportunities. I'm down with that. I think 910 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 6: he's gonna make the most of it. I'm less concerned 911 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 6: about Cooks at this point. I'm more concerned about my 912 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 6: left tackle because if I can't block it, I can't 913 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 6: get the ball. 914 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 8: The way I see it in my head is like 915 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 8: we've seen it at times where Dak he could get 916 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 8: rid of the ball very very quickly last year. I'm 917 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 8: talking about where even if someone was coming, the pressure 918 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 8: was coming, he's already the ball is gone. He already 919 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 8: threw that path. So that comes with having the certainty 920 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 8: or the confidence in your passing game with the receiver 921 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 8: and who you're getting too. So I think if the 922 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 8: relationship with CD and the connection there improves, you can 923 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 8: get rid of the ball quickly, which. 924 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 6: Then gives Though, if you're gonna if you're gonna be 925 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 6: at a game where your defense is giving up points, you're 926 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 6: gonna have to have something like you were talking about earlier, Brian, 927 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 6: where you were saying it feels like this offense has 928 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 6: to work for every yard at some point. If you're 929 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 6: gonna win some of these games that are gonna be 930 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 6: high scoring games, you have to have some big plays. 931 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 6: And big plays typically take time for the receiver to 932 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 6: get downfield and get open, which means you gotta block 933 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 6: it right. And that's where I'm a little bit concerned. 934 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 6: It just doesn't match. 935 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 8: Up completely killing you right now. 936 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 6: I don't think he's killing you. I think he's fine. 937 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 6: I think he's okay. The problem is you're about to 938 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 6: face the better defensive. 939 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 2: Ends in the NFL. 940 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,959 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like you're trying to diffuse a bomb over there. 941 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 7: You know, you got the bomb unit and they're like, 942 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 7: is it the red wire or the blue wire? You know, 943 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 7: and then you just gotta close. 944 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 6: To me. 945 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 7: I think you can just said steal or guide. You 946 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 7: can just sit there either tackle, because these next two 947 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 7: weeks is going to be a hang on your rear, guys, 948 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 7: here we go kind of a day because especially if 949 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 7: they don't help, if they don't help guiding in this 950 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 7: in these games, and but it takes away from other 951 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 7: things you're trying to do, you know. 952 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 6: And the thing eight and Hutchinson is a really scares 953 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 6: me because not only is he talented, he is one 954 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 6: hundred times one hundred. 955 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 3: Mile an hour movie guy, like he keeps coming coming, 956 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: ever comes off the field. 957 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a he. The game keeps going. 958 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 7: Max Crosby the same. I mean they play and they 959 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 7: play and they never stop. 960 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, never stop with their rush anyway. All right, 961 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 3: thank you guys, appreciate you. 962 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. And that took two segments. That was great. 963 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 2: That took two segments. It was great. 964 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 6: And we're actually going to be ending the show here 965 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 6: we got. 966 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 3: So he's going to meet you. 967 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 10: I was curious how we were about to do this show. 968 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 7: Uh, and we will catch up with a T and 969 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 7: T right for sponsoring changes everything. 970 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 6: There you go, and we'll be back on tomorrow. So 971 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 6: then for Nick Harris Brian brought us Amberg See. 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