1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody, Thursday edition of Clay 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: and Buck, and we got breaking news coming from all 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: over the place right now, and as we speak, I 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: mean breaking this moment. Here at the very top of 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: the show, Biden just finishing up remarks on border security, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: the single most specific in its claims and policies border 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: talk that I can remember Biden giving, certainly wild president, 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and we will break down for you some of what 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: he's got in mind here. There's an app for that, apparently, Clay, 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: there's an app. I'm sure, so there's an app. People 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: just want, They just want an app, and then all 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the laws will be respected. The laws 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: will be respected. A word I did not hear is deportation, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: which I've started to notice we don't really hear that word. 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: We hear removals. They're changing the language. Whatever happened at 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: deportation didn't come up very much in the speech, if 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: at all. But we'll break down what his specific policies 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: are from this. He's also supposed to actually find the 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: US Mexico border on Sunday, which that must be interesting. 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: For him. He's never been there before, despite what the 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: administration said in the past. Meanwhile, you've also got the 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: would be I believe, the seventh vote now for Speaker 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: of the House. That is, as we speak to you 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: right now, in process we're preparing to happen. So we 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: will look at the results of this, and I'm there 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: are a lot of reports about negotiations and the rebels. 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I think that term, that term is pretty good. That's 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: ketching up. People will have used some other ones. The rebels, 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: the holdouts against McCarthy have apparently gotten some concessions, which 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: we'll discuss that coming up in a little bit. But Clay, 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean the biggest things that I took from the 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: Biden border crisis speech, which now they're admitting, I guess 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: it's a crisis, right the President speaking about it, He's 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: going to the border after all of the delay, and 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: this is an enormously complicated but also incredibly important issue 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: after all the things that we've seen going on. He's 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: talking about three point five billion to secure the border, 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: which really means more asylum personnel and judges. I'm starting 40 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: to think, Clay, my top level thought on this is 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: that we're going to move from the push for mass 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: amnesty via remember the Obama administration, it was comprehensive immigration reform, 43 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: to now the push for a highly streamlined process for 44 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: even more people to come in under the idea of 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: on the idea of getting asylum, and you're gonna have 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: instead of mass amnesty is mass asylum, which is effectively 47 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: the same thing, a whole lot of people going outside 48 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the normal immigration process. Now, I know people are gonna say, oh, 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: asylum is part of immigration. This is an enormous expansion. 50 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: We don't take in that many assiles in any given year. 51 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: I think he's hoping to make this a lot easier. 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: So essentially, instead of fixing the loophole, Clay Biden wants 53 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: to codify the asylum loophole and make it much bigger, 54 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: make it a super highway if you will, of quote 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: asylum seekers. There are two things that immediately jump out 56 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: to me. One, if he's going to the border on Sunday, 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: which is the report he's supposedly traveling to El Paso, 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I think he's going to go there. He's going to 59 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: lay out his plan, knowing that his plan is unlikely 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: to pass Congress, and eventually get bogged down and then 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: he's going to say, well, I tried to solve this, 62 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: but Republicans wouldn't work with me this budget. This immigration 63 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: crisis is on them second part, and this is important. 64 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: Allowing people in with visas or this app or whatever 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: he's going to do to work is in theory something 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: that would then allow them to leave what we have 67 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to address. I remember when we made fun of Kamala 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Harris because she used the phrase root cause like a 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: bunch of different times in her address down in El 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Salvador or wherever she went. When she got humiliated when 71 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: she interviewed with a Lester Holt, I guess it was 72 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: who called her out for not ever having been to 73 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the border. The reason why people come here is twofold 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: one for better economic opportunity, Okay. I think a lot 75 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: of people understand that. And it's important to recognize how 76 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the border region has shifted over the year's buck because 77 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: initially people came across, let's say, from Mexico, they worked 78 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: here for a period of time, and then they went 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: back home. That was the primary use of crossing the border. 80 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Now people here and they have children, so this is 81 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: twofold one is the economic opportunity. Two is, once you 82 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: are here and you have a child, that child is 83 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: an automatic American citizen if they are born on American soil, 84 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: and as a result, you will never have to basically 85 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: leave America. That's the reality. So if we really want 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to address the incentive structure, I think it's hard to 87 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: remove the economic incentive. But the birthright citizenship, that is 88 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: this idea which I've been researching it because I'm so 89 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: utterly intrigued by it, but it's a vestige of the 90 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: colonial era. In other words, if you were in England 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: and you were getting thinking about making the move to 92 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the United States, to one of our colonies, then the 93 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: way they guaranteed you that you would always have your 94 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: British citizenship is your kids, even if they were born 95 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: in a colony, would still be considered British. And that 96 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: was taken by France and Spain and Portugal and everywhere else. 97 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Birthright citizenship based on soil, that is, being born in 98 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: a country almost doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. 99 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: And unless we're willing to have a real conversation about that, 100 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how we change the economic incentives. Because 101 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: our country is much better than most countries in the world. 102 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: But the birthright citizenship angle is something that should be 103 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: discussed debated in a serious manner because it's a major 104 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: incentive structure that no longer applies, in my opinion, like 105 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: it would in the colonial era. People are gaming the 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: system of immigration the laws in this country in a 107 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: myriad ways and in massive numbers. And so when Biden says, 108 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: as he did in the start of the speech, which 109 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: is still ongoing as we talk to you, as is 110 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: the beginning of the seventh vote for Speaker of the 111 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: House in Congress, there's a lot going on today in 112 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: our nation's capital, the political front. What Clay Biden said 113 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: that these are people fleeing oppression and escaping gang violence. 114 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: You're not an asylum seeker. Just to be very clear, 115 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: if there is gang violence in your country, that is 116 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: not the basis for an asylum claim, And if the 117 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Biden administration's pretending it is, that's deeply dishonest. Asylum is 118 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be for people who are specifically targeted and 119 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: persecuted on religious, political, ethnic, etc. On those grounds. As 120 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: an individual, it's not My country is unsafe and kind 121 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: of crappy I'd rather be in America because if that's 122 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: the basis for an asylum claim that this goes to 123 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the very baseline of everything that we're seeing with a 124 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: flooded border. If my country has a lot of violence, 125 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of corruption and I don't like it, and 126 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: that qualifies you for asylum, that's like, you know, most 127 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: of the countries in the world, it would then be. 128 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: And if it's not specific to that individual, when they 129 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: say fleeing oppression and escaping gang violence, they're fleeing oppression 130 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: in these Latin American countries. Okay, even if you want 131 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: to make that case, which I would claim is a 132 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: complete abuse of the notion asylum is for please take 133 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: me in America, or else I'll be tortured and my 134 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: family will be murdered because of who I am, or 135 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: because of what I stand for or whatever. That's an 136 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: asylum seeker. It's not. Hey, you guys have a better 137 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: jobs market, a great welfare system, and you know most 138 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: of your cities are safer than the cities where I 139 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: come from. I now get to be an American. That's 140 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the immigration system, right. If you want to just come 141 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: to America because it's better, you're supposed to go through 142 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the normal immigration process. Asylum is for people who are 143 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: and in the past that actually would be this. You know, 144 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: they're jumping off the off a boat and swimming to 145 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: shore and saying, you know, America, take me in or 146 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: else I'm finished, please, and the goodness of your hearts. 147 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: This is being exploited on a massive scale, and they're 148 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: exploiting it through bringing children along to get different, you know, 149 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: a different treatment at the border because of the presence 150 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: of children. All these things that are happening. The cartels 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: are exploiting this. Biden addresses none of this. This is 152 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: exactly what I thought they would do all along, which 153 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: is streamlining the process to essentially mainstream the abuse of 154 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: the system that's going on right now. This will effectively 155 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: be our immigration policy, all the big lie. I'm surprised, 156 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: frankly that they even addressed it because this is a 157 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: big negative polling area for Joe Biden, which is why 158 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I think ultimately this is a pivot to acknowledge that 159 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: there is an issue, but then to hang the blame 160 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: on Republicans for why the issue exists again, making fun 161 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: of Kamala for the root cause, over and over again. 162 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: But there are two root causes, better opportunity and birthright citizenship. 163 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: We should as a country examined whether given that we 164 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: now have three hundred and thirty million people. But back 165 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: in the day it was tough to get people to 166 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: get on a boat and come to a colony. It's 167 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: not hard to get people to come to America. Now 168 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: we're not begging for people to come and settle this country. 169 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: So the idea of birthright citizenship really significantly needs to 170 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: be examined it it has not actually been directly examined 171 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court, for example, it hasn't been taken 172 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: all the way up. It should be taken I believe 173 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: all the way up. I do think there's a constitutional 174 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: intern I completely agree with you, by the way. I 175 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,119 Speaker 1: mean that's now the birthright citizenship issue comes in obviously 176 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: with it comes into play with women who are coming 177 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: into America and having children here, and and specifically when 178 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: you have this birth tourism. There's a term for it 179 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: where people show up. I mean a lot of the 180 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: people crossing the southern border are you know. This is 181 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: where the term anchor baby comes from, which I'm sure 182 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: now we're not supposed to use. But the idea is 183 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: you have the kid here and then you're never effectively 184 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: never going to be deported, and you get access because 185 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: that child now as an American citizen under current interpretation 186 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: of law, you get you get access to a whole 187 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: range of benefits. What happens is we know in California 188 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: and specifically with a lot of a lot of Asians 189 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: who come to California for this purpose, Chinese particularly, it's 190 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: really largely a Chinese national issue. Is they have a 191 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: child here, as we've discussed, go back to China, raise 192 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the child in China until college, and then they show 193 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: up and say, okay, we want in state tuition at 194 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: UCLA and US citizenship because guess what born here. That's right, 195 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: that is illegal. Just whoever, No, this is not like, 196 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: oh you're not so that's That's the beautiful stuff in 197 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: our democracy is that people can do this. No, that's 198 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: actually illegal. You can be arrested for that. You're not 199 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: supposed to operate. But it just goes clay to all 200 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: these scams that are being operated. Ultimately, it only works 201 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: if people in good faith enforce our laws, and the 202 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Biden administration is completely lacking in faith when it comes 203 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: to the execution immigration law a full stop. And when 204 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: you bring more people in this is this is important. 205 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: Like let's say you come in at eighteen or nineteen, 206 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: and I agree with you asylum as being exaggerated. But 207 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: when you go to a country at eighteen or nineteen 208 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: years old, let's say you're a woman, you come here. 209 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: You may not even be intending to have a child 210 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: here one day, because a lot of eighteen and nine 211 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: year olds aren't necessarily thinking about having kids. But if 212 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: you end up in this country for four or five years, 213 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: your chances of having a kid here are huge, and 214 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: that means you'll probably never leave. So all of this 215 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: process again, you can't go at buck if you're getting 216 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: married too, if you were like, hey, you know what, 217 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: I want my kid to be Chinese and American. You 218 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: can't get on a plane and fly to China and 219 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: have a baby there and say, oh, my kids an 220 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: American and a Chinese person like, they don't allow you 221 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: to do that. It's almost not allowed to anywhere else 222 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: in the world. I don't think Americans realize how rare 223 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: this is. You wouldn't. I don't think this would work 224 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: in an EU country either. You're Canadian specific to the country. 225 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: But if I show up in France and and you know, 226 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: carries probably didn't we have a child in France, they'd say, yeah, 227 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: you're Americans. Yes, it is correct, you have an American baby. 228 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: It's not a French baby. You guys are Americans. You're 229 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: not French citizens, you're not French subjects. I think that's 230 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: true of France. If I'm wrong, someone please, I'm true 231 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: mostly of all of your most European countries. I know 232 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: that's I know that's that's considered the case. But but Clay, 233 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, we actually don't even have to get as 234 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: far as the birthright citizenship issue to see I mean 235 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: that that's an additional layer, additional problem because people aren't 236 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: being deported period. You're in the country illegally, right, So 237 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship in the context we're talking about it means 238 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: that people come to the country illegally and then they're 239 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: never going to be deported once they have a child. 240 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: That is true, that just it doesn't really have it 241 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: and then they know it. But we're not even that. 242 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,239 Speaker 1: We're at a phase now where interior enforcement by immigrations 243 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: and customs enforcement, which should change its name because it's 244 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: really just the welcome and commit for illegal immigrants. Now 245 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: at the southern border, Interior enforcement's broken down so much 246 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: that you don't even have to worry about having an 247 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: anchor baby here. You don't have to worry about whether 248 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: you could actually use that process to your advantage because 249 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: you're just gonna get to stay. Yes, that's where there's 250 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: the real number. Because they also they play games with 251 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: what is a deportation. If you're a single adult male, 252 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: you're turned back from the US Mexico border right now, 253 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: right away. Are you considered a deportation? Are you counted 254 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: in the removals? Because once you get into the interior 255 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: of the United States, deportation numbers have dropped like a 256 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: stone in water. And it is purposeful anyway, This is 257 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: there's a big issue. 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On the front lines of truth. 333 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, voting underway as we speak to 334 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: you right now here on Clay and Buck. Uh. It's 335 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: in the early stages. It's gonna take a few minutes 336 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: here for all the votes. It's always a reminder a 337 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people of the House 338 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: of Representatives, you know a lot of folks. Uh. They're 339 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: tabulating the votes right now, and we are. We're gonna 340 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: update you on the latest here now now, just as 341 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: a as a preview or a in preparation for whatever. 342 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: This This would be the seventh vote held here for 343 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, and it looks like, well, we'll 344 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: see I don't think uh some reporting. Remember a lot 345 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: of this is people go into their preferred media source. 346 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: People are leaking things. You know. There's gamesmanship at work here, 347 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: So it's tough to get the real story when you're 348 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: not in these rooms having the conversations yourselves. But there 349 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: supposedly is something close to a deal with McCarthy right 350 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: now involving the twenty rebels here in the Republican Congress, 351 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: and the offer as it stands now, would allow. It 352 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: would include term limits, a vote on term limits for members, 353 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus members getting more seats on the House Rules Committee, 354 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: allowing a single member to force a vote that could 355 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: out the speaker. That's a that's a big one, right, 356 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: because I think they want to ensure, they would say, 357 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: a greater degree of accountability for McCarthy, should he not 358 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: follow through on promises he's making, or should he just 359 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: be too much of an establishment swishy Republican. But I 360 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: think that you're seeing these nets. Look, if I want to, 361 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to, I wonder what you think on this play. 362 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: If this is what happens, McCarthy does get the votes needed, 363 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: only Republican votes, not involving any Democrats crossing over because 364 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus members enough of them come forward and say 365 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: final vote for them. But they got concessions from McCarthy 366 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: in that process. A win is a win, right. You 367 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: got to think that that is at least close to 368 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: what they wanted. I mean, they took this this maximum 369 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: position of it can't be McCarthy. Well, if they get 370 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: all these concessions and the Freedom Caucus is more powerful 371 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: and then it is McCarthy. Do you think they chalk 372 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: that up as a w I think that this is 373 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: really inside baseball, personal politics playing out on sort of 374 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: an international and certainly national scale. So I think that 375 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: there's a certain segment of these twenty that recognize that, 376 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: given there's only going to be two hundred and twenty 377 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: two or whatever it is total Republican votes, and I 378 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: believe it's two twenty two, that they had the powers 379 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: as long as you got five people, right, as long 380 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: as you got five people who are saying, I refuse 381 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: to vote for this guy or this girl, then that 382 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: person can't be speaker. And we are at such a 383 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: fine line between that the discipline to be willing to 384 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: go along is not there, and I understand people are 385 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: angry and they're saying, oh, I don't like Kevin mc. 386 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that the speaker is going to matter 387 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: at all. This. This is my general consensus, right and 388 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I think the vast majority of people listening to us 389 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: right now agree because the speaker is going to have 390 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: limited power no matter who they are, because the Democrats 391 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: still control the Senate and the Democrats still control the 392 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: White House. So whatever you do in the House can't 393 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: become law. The House can do is investigate and conduct 394 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: hearings and help to create a record of potential crimes 395 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: that are being committed right now, for instance in the 396 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: big tech community, because otherwise until twenty twenty four, the 397 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: Department of Justice is not going to do anything. So 398 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a fundamental miscompt misunderstanding of what is 399 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: at play here. It's just an internal battle where the 400 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: winner doesn't actually win that much. Does that make sense, Like, 401 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's going to matter at all. 402 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: So so my take on this, I think you're right. 403 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: And I even put out a poll that whenever this 404 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: is done and the vote, the seventh ballot voting as 405 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: we speak to you right now across the country. It 406 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: is happening right now on the floor of Congress. The 407 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: votes are being tabulated. Is anyone going to remember the 408 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: speaker's fight twenty four hours after it is settled one way, 409 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: whether it's McCarthy or let's say, you know, something crazy 410 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: happens in or I shouldn't say crazy, but you know, 411 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: one of the other alternatives does end up becoming speaker, 412 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: which I don't see how that happens, but maybe it 413 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: does happen. I don't know. I was. I think it's 414 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: funny because you and i've been very consistently not I'm 415 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: I understand you and I are friends with a number 416 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: of these Freedom Caucus members. I understand their position on McCarthy. 417 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: I understand their frustration with the GOP overall. Right now, 418 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: I also understand we understand the way this is playing 419 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: out based on the mechanisms that exists in the House 420 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: of Representatives. So I'm kind of like, let them fight 421 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: it out, figure it out, and negotiate and get it done. 422 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm not deeply emotionally invested in this either way. I'm 423 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: not saying everyone needs to get out of the way 424 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: and make room for McCarthy. I'm also not saying that 425 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I think it's likely that McCarthy is going to be defeated. Right. 426 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: All of this is at the one On the one hand, 427 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: there's the personal dislike factor here. We know there are 428 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: a few members of Freedom Caucus who don't like McCarthy. 429 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: This is well known an inside of DC. I mean, 430 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: they just they don't like him. It's not about policies, 431 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: I'm anything. They don't like him. But there's also on 432 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: a broader level, I think, or at the higher level, 433 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: who's gonna run the GEO? What is the the ethos, 434 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: the strategy, the overarching theme of the GOP going to 435 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: be for the next two years. This isn't going to 436 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: determine that, but I think that you're what you're seeing 437 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: is kind of an early stage uh the you know, 438 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: the early stage friction of well, what is it gonna be? 439 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna be entering a primary. What is 440 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: a primary? It's Republicans fighting Republicans or who should be 441 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: in charge? Well? But so as also as funny to 442 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: me is Democrats and their media allies are almost gleeful 443 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: over this right now. And what I find particularly funny 444 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: about this is this is what they claim has to happen. Right, 445 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: They're always like, when are Republicans going to stand up 446 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: against other Republicans that actually fight it out? Well, actually 447 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: that's what's going on right now. And then what do 448 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: they say, Oh, look, how disorganized do they are? Right Like, 449 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: you demand something and then you get it and you 450 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: criticize it simultaneously, which is pretty funny in and of itself. 451 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: What I believe in general is that who the Speaker 452 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: of the House is, so long as as a Republican, 453 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: will not have any impact whatsoever on any of our listeners' lives. Right, 454 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: the difference between McCarthy and Steve Scalise, the difference between 455 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: McCarthy and Jim Jordan and I like a lot of 456 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: these guys is not going to be that substantial because 457 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: they don't have that much power. So let's assume for 458 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: a second here that McCarthy ends up as speaker. Let's 459 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: assume this. I'm not saying it's happening. Votes happening right now, 460 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: we'll know, Oh, it already looks like he's losing, by 461 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: the way, that's what, but that he's about to lose 462 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: the seventh consecutive vote Okay, the real question is does 463 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: he cut from twenty down? Is it trending in his favor? 464 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: This is about momentum, and that will affect the conversation. 465 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: But to the one I was making play on, how 466 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: this is about more? I think I think for a 467 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, this is about more than the speaker position, right, 468 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: because to your point, you're gonna get a lot of 469 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: similar outcome, a lot of similar stuff happening. Whoever, as 470 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: long as you have a Republican of any kind in 471 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: this role, it's not going to be that different in 472 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: a way that affects people such that they're aware of 473 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: the differences. Right, if you read about it, maybe you'll see, oh, 474 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: well he brought this to the floor sooner than whatever. 475 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: I do think though, that there is right now the 476 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: early stages of a leadership, not just speak of the House, 477 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: I mean a leadership realignment and a psychological shift within 478 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: the GOP and among the base. For Okay, well, who's 479 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: really going to run the show? Because it is all 480 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty four. We know that what you said 481 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: is totally true. We don't have the Senate, we don't 482 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: have the presidency. There's no great sweeping legislation. You know, 483 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: we're not getting constitutional carrying fifty states right now, We're 484 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: not gonna slash in and all. There's nothing any of 485 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: them can do, nothing that's gonna happen on that in 486 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: that respect. So what I do think is that, and 487 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: I also believe that people are a little frustrated with 488 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: all the all the promises from members Republican members of Congress, who, 489 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest, a lot of them just want to 490 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: go on Fox. So the donor class sees them and 491 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna get you know, check sent to them. Right 492 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: it's when they talk about how we're gonna hold them accountable. Really, 493 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Democrats feel very held accountable at all recently. 494 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there are any Democrats saying, oh, those 495 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Republicans they play rough, they're really tough. So I think 496 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: that this is this isn't maybe maybe in early part 497 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: of a conversation that's happening, and maybe an intramural fight, 498 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: not just a conversation among people in the GOP saying well, 499 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: who are we, what are we gonna do, how are 500 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: we gonna fight? And who's gonna be in charge? Because 501 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: that still is to be determined and look, Trump waited 502 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: on McCarthy's side. As we know, everyone didn't snap to attention, 503 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: even people who were a long time Trump people. I mean, 504 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: we saw last night Lauren Bobert and Sean Hannity. I 505 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: thought it was great television. But I think we got 506 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: to play that. When we can we play that, we 507 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: come back, we tea we should have played that because 508 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to see where this vote goes. So Clay, 509 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: why don't we do that? Well, we'll do the Bobert 510 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: and Sean. You know, we're friends with Lauren, We love Sean. 511 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: They had an exchange, but this is what you know, 512 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: this is politics. People should have exchanges. People should be 513 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: able to bring ideas to sport. I mean, Clay thinks 514 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: jen X is better than being a millennial, Like there 515 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: are crazy ideas even among family. Think jen X saving 516 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: the country and new millennials are destroying it. That's my opinion. 517 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Buck disagrees. You know, he's allowed to have this very 518 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: wrong opinion. 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Some of the details chilling as they 545 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: now have got the man they believe committed those four 546 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: murders in custody. But we wanted to give you the latest. 547 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: Like we said, Kevin McCarthy has lost a seventh straight 548 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: vote to become speaker. Cannot get to two eighteen And 549 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: last night there were some fireworks on Fox News. Sean 550 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: Hannity had Moreen Bobert on the program. We certainly have 551 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: had both of those, guy and Gal on this show 552 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: in the past. We like both. But the fireworks are good. 553 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: Let's we'll play a couple here. Let's play cut three 554 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: and then cut four here as well, which you'll give 555 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: you the full context I believe of their exchange. Let 556 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: me turn the tables, Kylas woman. Kevin McCarthy has two 557 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: hundred and two three votes, yours it has twenty. So 558 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: if I'm going to use your words and your methodology 559 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: and your math, isn't a time for you to pack 560 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: it in in your side to pack it in considering 561 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: he has over two hundred and you have twenty Sean, 562 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: I understand the frustration, I promise you, but not frustrated. 563 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: You didn't answer my question, and we are hearing, we 564 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: are hearing from frustrating. You are still voting with Kevin 565 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: McCarthy to answer my questive of what we're doing, and 566 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: they're cheering us on. So there are more for us 567 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: than are against us, and they are waiting for Kevin 568 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: to kate um. You know the American who certainly frustrated 569 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: by I'm frustrated by you not answering a direct question. 570 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: I asked you a simple question, Congresswoman. I you know, 571 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting a liberal. I'm not going 572 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: to answer for me who McCarthy Sean, Okay, So even 573 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: if you only have thirty McCarthy, you will not abide 574 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: by what you told President Trump. I don't believe by body. 575 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we've made progress. Look, I love President Trump. 576 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: You're not going to turn me on him. You're not 577 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: going to pit him against me, and I am standing. 578 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: I have seen the lack of accountability. Well we are. 579 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: We are getting phone calls saying that we need to 580 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: stop this. Kevin doesn't have the votes for period. I 581 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: need to find a consensus candidate, get this right and 582 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: get our country back on track. Thanks so much, Sean. 583 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: A little bit of fireworks there, Buck. So here's the 584 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: real essence of this question, which is what you and 585 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: I have also been talking about. Who breaks first. Do 586 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: the twenty who have said Kevin McCarthy is not our guy, 587 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to vote for him, or do the 588 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: roughly two hundred, And that's Sean's point is not a 589 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: bad one. I mean, he's making a strong argument. You're saying, hey, 590 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: we're not budging, but you only have twenty and aren't 591 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: necessarily adding any new adherents. The two hundred only have 592 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: two hundred, but they're not adding any new adherents either. 593 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: How do you break the log jam? And why should 594 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: the two hundred break as opposed to twenty. That's the 595 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: essence of the question here, Buck. I'd also just point out, 596 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: first of all, that the Democrats being gleeful about this. 597 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an observation. It's true. You know who 598 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: cares Democrats. They're they're anything that allows them to pat 599 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: themselves in the back and feel like they're superior and 600 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: so smart, you know, while they're triple masking and putting 601 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: their six vaccine needles on their Facebook profile. They'll do. 602 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: That doesn't really matter if this goes on for a 603 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: few weeks, if this goes on for a couple of months, 604 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I agree with your your overall point that this specific 605 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: role is unlikely, unlikely to have any effect whatsoever that 606 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: any individual American is aware of, meaning whether a Speaker 607 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: of the House is McCarthy, Steve's glease, Jim Jordan doesn't 608 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: want it. People voted for him yesterday. Matt Gates apparently 609 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: just cast a vote for Donald Trump to be Speaker 610 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: of the House. I mean, there doesn't have to be 611 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: a congress person for people out there who have not 612 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: to have not thought through this, but that people are Look, 613 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of eyebrows being raised about that 614 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: one way or the other. Wait a second, now, now, 615 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: now we're putting the Trump name in the mix. So 616 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: with all this going on, though, you know, I think 617 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: it's im born to keep in context. It's not really 618 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna It's a part of a larger conversation maybe and 619 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: part of a realignment within the GOP. And in that 620 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: sense it is an important piece in the puzzle. But 621 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: this is not you know, look, it's not a presidential primary, right, 622 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as meaningful as some of the 623 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: other GOP intraparty discussions. And let's be honest fights we 624 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: all know we I keep providing everybody. Look at how 625 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: tense people are right now over this speaker's battle. I 626 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people getting very angry. I'm not 627 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: angry one with the other. I'm looking at this saying, okay, 628 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: I get it, what's going on, what happens here. You 629 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: and I have friends on both sides of the issue 630 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: in terms of what they're supporting right now. But you know, 631 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: if we go into a primary, it's gonna get all uglier. 632 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna get a lot uglier. So look, this is politics, messy, 633 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: it happens. I don't understand. I think it's uh, let 634 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: let it play out, let them fight. They got some concessions, 635 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: it's all gonna be okay. That's that's my feeling on 636 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: this one. And you know, maybe the establishment getting a 637 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: brush back pitch here thrown by the rebels is a 638 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: good thing. Conflict is good, right. We we kind of 639 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: bury this idea of conflict, or we treat it as 640 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: if it is a bad thing. But conflict often leads 641 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: to a better resolution, So pretending that everything is perfect 642 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: when in reality there are disagreements, which Democrats do all 643 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: the time, is not necessarily the way to have progress. Right, 644 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: this battle can be good. Speaking of progress, Buck, we 645 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: got an arrest for murder in Idaho. What are the details? 646 00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: They are chilling. I'm gonna share some. Next play, Travis 647 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: sent Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth m h.