1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Nope. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: All of you are having fantastic Tuesdays wherever you may 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: be across this great country. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Or around this great land. We are rolling. We've got 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: a lot to dive into with you today. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, we didn't talk about this yesterday, but has 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: some interesting opinions about Hunter Biden. The Hispanic white supremacist 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: story grows as the left wing media cannot get enough 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: of it. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: We got a border mess. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, Well, he has real strong opinions about pronouns 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: in the bio and a lot of you may not 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 2: have seen this story, but I think it's emblematic of 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: everything that we get wrong in the media on a 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: somewhat regular basis. A former punter for the Buffalo Bills 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: was kicked out of the NFL because of a rape allegation. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: That rape allegation has now been one hundred percent refuted. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: It did not happen. He is one hundred percent innocent, 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: and many of the media outlets that were quick to 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: cover the allegation are saying nothing at all about the 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: fact that the allegation has gone up in smoke and 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: this guy is innocent. Going to talk about that story 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: and what it reflects about the modern media environment. But 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: we begin with Joe Biden. As a part of his 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: rare interview, he set down with Stephanie Rule of MSNBC, 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: and this jumped out at me over the weekend. We 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: played you a couple of these cuts on Monday, but 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: we didn't hit this one. Bien person, I believe we 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: have a queued up here. Let's listen to cut twelve, 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: as Biden has asked directly about Hunter Biden and whether 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: or not Hunter has behaved in any way in an 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 2: inappropriate or a legal manner. 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: Listen, affecting you, your son, while there's no ties to 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: you could be charged by your Department of Justice. 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: How will that impact your presidency? 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 5: First of all, my son's done nothing wrong. I trust him, 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: I have faith in him, and it impacts my presidency 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: by making me feel proud of him. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: Okay, buck, When Joe Biden says he's done nothing wrong, 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: that is I mean, look, I understand I've got three boys, 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: and I understand that you're probably worried about your son's 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: mental health, and certainly he's made all sorts of drug 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: induced poor decisions. But I want to kind of play 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: this out a little bit. But starting there, the idea 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: you knew at some point this question was coming. What 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: strikes you about this response, in particular, buck Well Joe 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: Biden saying that my son's done nothing wrong. Yeah, first 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: of all, obviously he's done a lot wrong, So that's 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: not particularly effective. 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Pr The word that. 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: He should have used is illegal, and even that's not true, 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 4: but at least you could understand a dad is going 54 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: to claim that there's a presumption of innocence and until 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: it's proven in a court of law, he will admit 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: nothing when it comes to the illegality of his son's dealings. 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: You know, Clay, I was just speaking to our friend 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: Sean Ryan on his podcast recently, which will be out 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks about Epstein and one of 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: the things about the whole Epstein reality, which is still 61 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: there are so many questions and there is so much 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: that stinks to high Heaven about it. It's really not 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: that hard to trace money. It's really not that difficult. 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: No one's you know, Epstein wasn't traveling all around the 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: world with trucks filled with gold bars, Right, how did 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: this guy get hundreds of millions of dollars? People didn't 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: really want to look too much into This is my 68 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: thesis on it. Hunter Biden reminds me of this. Where 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: did the money really go? Millions of dollars coming into 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: accounts from China, a million dollars from Barisma. We know 71 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: it didn't pay taxes on it, but they could do 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: forensic accounting and figure out what was I mean is 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: ten percent for the big guy a joke? 74 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Clay? 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I really like to focus in. People are 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: talking about lying on the gun form. Yeah, you're not 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: supposed to do that. Sometimes people get prosecuted for that 78 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: can be a little bit difficult because was he a 79 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: controlled substance user in the moment he did it? 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: You know? 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 4: Fine, The big issue here is Biden family corruption. And 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: I still think that for all the talk of they're 83 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 4: looking into this, they're looking into this. If they tie 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: it off at Hunter Biden to protect Joe, the fix 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: is still in. 86 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: That's what I see right now. 87 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: And they did because the premise of her question, if 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: you listen to it, was we know you've done nothing 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: right wrong? And then you know the reason I think 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 2: is uh. The reason he hughes the phrase did nothing 91 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: wrong was because that was the premise of the question. 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: The premise of the question probably should have been, do 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: you believe your son has done anything illegal? And, by 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: the way, the answer is one hundred percent. Hunter Biden 95 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: has behaved in an illegal fashion. He pays taxes, and 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: that's not disputed at all. He knows millions of dollars 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: in back taxes. That is illegal behavior by Hunter Biden 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: not to have paid the full extent of his taxes. 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: But here is where I think this might go, Buck 100 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: and see whether you would buy in here. I don't 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: know who would order the code read. So that is 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: certainly a question that could be asked. But in the 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: wake of the Washington Post coming out and saying Joe 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: Biden's approval rating is thirty six percent, we know that 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: the Washington Post is effectively a propaganda arm of the 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: Democrat Party. So the fact that they would allow that 107 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: poll to be published that they would have a thirty 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: six percent approval and worse than that for Biden, I think, which, 109 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: by the way, that's pretty bad because it's the worst 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: approval in a Washington Post poll for any sitting president 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: at this period of their first term, going all the 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: way back to Harry Truman when they started doing this, 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: no one has ever been worse than Biden is right now. 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: So it's not your imagination is for many people at 115 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: an historically awful president, but the fact that over sixty 116 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: percent of voters say that he isn't mentally or physically 117 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: able to do the job, and that the overall distrust 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden, because that was one of his sales 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: pitches was Trump is untrustworthy, I am trustworthy. 120 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: Is all starting to rain down? 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: If and I stress if if there are charges brought 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: against Hunter, is there a pathway? 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: Buck? 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm just asking like for feedback out there from you 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: guys as well. Eight hundred and two eight two two 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: eight a two, where Joe Biden is says I'm going 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: to pardon my son from all of these federal charges 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: that would make it nearly impossible for him to win election. Now, 129 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: he could win reelection, and then in December, after he's 130 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: already won, he could pardon Hunter. But he's gonna have 131 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: to answer questions about Hunter and whether or not he 132 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: would pardon him in all those things. Is there a 133 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: possibility that Biden and the family, looks at Joe's health, 134 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 2: looks at all of the dire reports out there about 135 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: his political future, and that this is his pathway towards 136 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: stepping down, pardoning Hunter, riding off into the sunset and 137 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: saying it's time for a new era of leadership. 138 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: So I would say, I think that is not impossible, 139 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: but I would bet a lot against it. 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: And here's why. I think. 141 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: By the way, Okay, so it all hinges on this 142 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: what is the level And this goes back to our 143 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: initial conversations about this over a year ago. Now, what 144 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: kind of charges did I've always thought they might bring 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: something against Hunter. 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Slap on the wrist. 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's a slap on the wrist, which I 148 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: still think is the most likely scenario, there's also the 149 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 4: possibility that it's you know, it's nothing, he paid his fine. 150 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: That I think is getting less likely. I would admit, 151 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: I think it's becoming too odious, too odorous, maybe word 152 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: too filthy, the justice system corruption here of Hunter Biden 153 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: not getting any punishment for something that just to be clear, 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: all of you listen to this, if you got millions 155 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: of dollars into Wellc's and didn't pay any tax on 156 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: it for a period of years. You'd be going to prison. Okay, 157 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: I said the other day, I'm a big Wesley Snipes fan. 158 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: I love Wesley Snipes. In the nineties, he spent like 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: four years in federal prison for tax evasion or three 160 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: years something like that. So you'd be going to prison, 161 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: all right, So already they're special treatment. I think the 162 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: likeliest scenario at this stage is they come forward with 163 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: you know, Hunter claims that he had he wasn't a 164 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: sound mind because of the drug usage, and he made 165 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: a mistake. He's paying a fine and he's going to 166 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 4: plead to you know, I don't I guess. I don't 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: know if misdemeanor, tax evasion or some kind of I 168 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: don't know tax law, so I don't know what this 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: step down would be. But basically, Clay he pays a 170 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: fine and says I'm sorry and faces no prison time. 171 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 4: That's what I think is most likely to your point, 172 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: because maybe not maybe that you know, I was so 173 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: certain they weren't going to prosecute Hunter last year because 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: Joe was so necessary to the party, right was going 175 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: through the midterm year, and you know, you couldn't you couldn't, 176 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: you know, take down the president, the head of the 177 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: party in that year. But now to your point about 178 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: if the Democrats don't feel strong enough about whether Joe 179 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: can win in twenty twenty four, that shifts the whole calculus, right, 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: That shifts the whole calculus away. And so if you 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: had Hunter facing prison time, I think the likeliest scenario 182 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 4: is that Joe commutes hunter sentence says, I love my son. 183 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: He's a convicted felon now, but I love my son. 184 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: I've suffered a lot of family tragedy, and I understand 185 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: how difficult it is for the American people out there. 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: I know what it is to suffer. He turns it 187 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: around and he keeps going. I do not think even 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 4: if his sun faces prison, that that ends Joe Biden's 189 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: run in twenty twenty four. But we could go back 190 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: to the tape. If I'm wrong on this one, it's 191 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: gonna be quite a belly flop. 192 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: So here here's my analysis of why I feel like 193 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: something big is coming. 194 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: The timing on this. 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: If you were going to take out Joe Biden and 196 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: politically politically, yes, the time that you would want to 197 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: do it is right now, because it would still give 198 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: you a runway for a competitive primary. And if you 199 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: look at what's going on right now, the only reason 200 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: why Joe Biden has a virtually right now uncontested unless 201 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: you wanted to count Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Mary 202 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: Anne Williamson, but effectively uncontested DNC is not even allow 203 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: any any debates is because Democrats have bought the premise 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is the only is the most likely candidate 205 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: to be Trump, right, I mean, that is why Joe 206 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: Biden's candidacy exists, not just anything he's doing, It's because 207 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: he is the candidate most likely to be Trump. Well, 208 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: when the Washington Post comes out with a poll that 209 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: shows you are six or seven points behind and that 210 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: over sixty percent of the American public doesn't believe you 211 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: are capable of this, and the poll comes out Buck 212 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: the same week that Title forty two is coming undone 213 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: and MSNBC and CNN are going to even have to 214 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: be on the ground down on the border with Friday's 215 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: looming chaos coming. Imagine a world where Title forty two 216 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: ends Buck and on Friday charges are announced against Hunter. 217 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, everybody is saying Biden may be toast. 218 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm just tossing this out there. 219 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: So everything you're amu. 220 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 4: Look, everything you're saying logically follows and makes sense in 221 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: this moment what I see it though, as you know, 222 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: on sort of the opposite side of this coin, if 223 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: they were going to have a total mess, you remember, 224 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: I think it was June before the twenty twenty two primaries. 225 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Democrats look like they were toast, the crime numbers, 226 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: the immigration situation, highest inflation forty years. 227 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: And then we got closer and closer and what are 228 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: they focusing on? January sixth and the threats to our democracy? Right? 229 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, a year from now, a year from now, which 230 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 4: is really when we're going to be in the height 231 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: of the general election. Is anyone even going to remember 232 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: if poor old hunter Biden had to take a guilty 233 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: plead of felony tax evasion and Joe even had to 234 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: commute sentence, it's his only remaining sun, right, I mean, 235 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: who wouldn't do that? Clay and title forty two is 236 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: a mess, but Joe decided. New York Times you saw it. 237 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: I know you saw, because you're The York Times. 238 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Every day. 239 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: Biden can't avoid It's not his fault. He can't avoid 240 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: the Trump immigration policies. He's going to start moving in 241 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: that direction. Right if the election we're in September, you know, 242 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: some of this would hold together more though, of course, 243 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: than you couldn't really switch out your candidates. I think 244 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: the calculator you're thinking the calculation, correct me if I'm wrong, 245 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: is if you got to pull your if you got 246 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: to pull the quarterback, you gotta pull them right now. 247 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: I'm thinking they view this as not even halftime, and they'll, 248 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: you know, by the time they've paid off the refs 249 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: and done all the swindling and cheating they can do. 250 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 4: By the end of the fourth quarter, they're not worried 251 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: about it. But you know, I could be wrong, and 252 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: here's my timing. Also, this allows you to have a primary. 253 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: If something happens in twenty four, Kamala is the choice. 254 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: Kamala is a far worse choice than Biden, which means, 255 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: once they get to twenty four, barring some sort of 256 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: tremendous health issue, Biden is their guy. But right now 257 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: relatively limited window over the next three months or so, 258 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: they could come out and they could metaphorically Nancy Carrigan 259 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: his knees right, Tanya Harding, remember back in the day, 260 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: Tanya Harding, Jeff Galuli, they come out of nowhere. I'm 261 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: just wondering whether Big DNC, Big Dim Power is looking 262 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: around and saying, uh oh, Biden might get trounced. 263 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: It might be time to go for the relief pitcher. 264 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: Most cell phone offers come with a hook in. The 265 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: overall offer starts out great, then comes the hefty activation fees, 266 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: four line requirements, binding contracts that never ends. Only Pure 267 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: Talk will give you a truly free five G Samsung 268 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: Galaxy phone without a catch. 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What do you think about. 285 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: Are they going to pull Biden as the quarterback so 286 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: to speak, or is it early in the game and 287 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: they figure a couple of fumbles now might as well 288 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: get it out of the way. Eight hundred two two 289 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: two eight eight two. So this is basically a will 290 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: Biden be the eventual Democrat nominee? Not asking who's gonna 291 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: win the election, We're asking who's gonna be the Democrat nominee? 292 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: I think pretty much. No matter what, it's still Joe 293 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: Clay thinks it's getting a little getting a little shaky. 294 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: This This is this qub sure the bullpen. 295 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: For those of you who are baseball fans, the manager 296 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: in the dugout has picked up the phone and he's 297 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: starting to let it be known that we might need 298 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: to get some arms loose, yeah, and not sure you're 299 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: going to replace him, but just getting some arms loose 300 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: in the bullpen right now. 301 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: Now they've been releasing and this is this is something 302 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: just by way, a full disclosure. Clay and I both 303 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: like Tucker and no Tucker personally, so I'm not pretending 304 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: to be unbiased with all this stuff, but everything they 305 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: released about him, I'm like, oh yeah, Like I just 306 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: think this is Tucker being Tucker. A lot of it 307 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: makes him seem really relatable and even funny and charm 308 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: But anyway, there's a new leak out and this one 309 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: was interesting. Has to do with pronouns in bio play thirteen. 310 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: I was like, she's got a lot of liberals working 311 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: over there, and you know they see this as wark 312 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: and we're the main force on the other side. 313 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: And like, that's crazy. 314 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: If you've got pronouns in your Twitter bio, you shouldn't 315 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: work here because we can't trust you because you're on 316 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: the other side. And she's well, who And I said, 317 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to name names because I don't know 318 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: who did it, and I'm definitely not going to cast 319 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: dispersions on someone unfairly just because your liberal doesn't mean 320 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: you did this. 321 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you shouldn't work here. Clay. 322 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: The pronouns in bio thing if you're working in an 323 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: openly conservative venture in any capacity, or if you are 324 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: an open conservative in your business, is pronouns in bio 325 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: a concern. 326 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: I would immediately refuse to hire anybody who had a 327 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: resume that had a pronoun in the resume. 328 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: I've run a media business before. I just it to me. 329 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: Is the trojan horse. I'm not letting you in my business. 330 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: I think Tucker is one hundred percent right there. 331 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: We'll get into this. And also, is Fetterman the second 332 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: coming of Churchill. There's a reason why we're asking that question. 333 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 4: You need to hear it. You also need to hear 334 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: about my pillow and the My Slippers. Their closeout sale 335 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: has been extended another week. I got the my slippers 336 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: on my feet right now as I'm doing this show. 337 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: They're amazing. Harry wears them all the time, we wear 338 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: them all over the house. 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I mentioned 357 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: the poll that we put up yesterday, by the way, 358 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: ended basically in a dead heat fifty to fifty over 359 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: whether people believe that Biden will be the nominee or not. 360 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 361 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: And we've started off the show talking about Hunter and 362 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: some of the implications. We should also mention, uh, the 363 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: implications that could come if Hunter is charged. We should 364 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: also mention we are scheduled to be joined tomorrow at 365 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: two o'clock Eastern in the third hour of the program 366 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: by the New York Post Miranda Divine, who broke so 367 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: much of the Hunter Biden laptop stories in the first place. 368 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: The White House has barred the New York Post, at 369 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: least they did yesterday, from being able to cover public 370 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: events at the White House. Very troubling, but also buck 371 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: makes me think that they know something is coming. Why 372 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: would you ban the New York Post from covering an 373 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: event with you and mayor Pete unless you're trying to 374 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: set the precedent of you can't trust the New York Post. 375 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: They aren't a viable, honest news organization. Just something for 376 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: many of you to be thinking about in the back 377 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: of your minds. And some of you may be of 378 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: the opinion that none of this matters because there is 379 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: such a complete and total commitment to the team, to 380 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: the cause that it doesn't really matter what Joe Biden does. 381 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what Hunter Biden does, It doesn't even 382 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: matter if Joe Biden can speak or even barely stand. 383 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: Democrats will still vote for him because that's what they 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: did for John Fetterman in Pennsylvania. Fetterman was this Joe 385 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: scarboroughbuck who's interviewing Fetterman. A true meeting of the minds here, 386 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: elite journalisming going on, big jay journalism, as we like 387 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: to say, big jay journalism from Joe's Garborough sitting down 388 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: with John Fetterman, who could barely speak. And of course 389 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough compares Fetterman to Abraham Lincoln and to Winston 390 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: Churchhill as anyone would, Clay, as anyone would How could 391 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: you not immediately think of these three names in conjunction, Lincoln, Churchill, Fetterman. 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: They just roll off the tongue. Listen. 393 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 5: You get inspiration from people like Lincoln and Churchill who 394 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 5: struggled with depression their whole lives and yet fought through 395 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: it and changed the world. 396 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 6: I would say there's almost kind of like a nobility 397 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 6: to it, like we're suffering, you know, there's some nobility 398 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 6: to that, or you know, and I so maybe something 399 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 6: it's it toughens you up or whatever. But it didn't 400 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 6: tougher me up. You know, in fact, it nearly ruined me. 401 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 6: And I know it put my family through a lot 402 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 6: of pain. 403 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to take a shot at him 404 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: for the depress, right. I think there are lots of 405 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: men out there who don't get mental health treatment. 406 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: I would encourage people to do it. 407 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: But the idea that Fetterman is in any way, in 408 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: any remote possibility similar to Lincoln and Churchill, two of 409 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: the greatest orators and minds that have ever represented Western democracies, 410 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: is just such shameless shilling on behalf of Joe Scarborough. 411 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: That Scarborough makes me sick, right because we know that 412 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: he's a clown. He talked about how the reason he 413 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: got COVID was because he had gotten his ephe COVID shot. 414 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: He just believes and is. 415 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: Willing to carry water for whatever the elite members of 416 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: media believe. 417 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: And this is a perfect example of yeah, well look, 418 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: his whole mo is to. 419 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: Tell liberal elitists what they want to hear. And that's 420 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 4: what That's the only way to drive any kind of 421 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 4: ratings at MSNBC in the Morning Show have always been small. 422 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: By the way. 423 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 4: What they've done is they've always sold it as you know, 424 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: that show reaches elite on is I. 425 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Think is Starbucks a sponsor on that show? And I'm 426 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: being serious. 427 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: I mean they've had on Morning Joe very big sponsors 428 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: with the idea that liberal elitists, basically the people who 429 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: want to tell you the subway is safe in New York, 430 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: who never ride the subway, they take you know, black cars, 431 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: you know Uber black, or they take you know, chauffeured service, 432 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: or maybe even take a helicopter back and forth to 433 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: the Hamptons. They watch Morning Joe, and so they that's. 434 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: The whole thing they have. 435 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: They have Joe and Mika sitting there representing or reflecting 436 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 4: back to them the elitist, delusional reality that they want 437 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 4: for people who live their lives rooted in the hypocrisy 438 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: that is central. I mean, to be a leftist, a 439 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: true leftist today who is rich, you have to be 440 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: a hypocrite. You have to be a hypocrite, whether it's 441 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: on climate change or social justice in the streets, or 442 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: the way that our economic system works. You have to 443 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: want other things for other people than what you want 444 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: for yourself. And so Morning Joe is the safe space 445 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: for that. It's where hypocrisy goes to get high fives. 446 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: And what that's well said, I would also add this, 447 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: what is I think particularly distrustful about the way that 448 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough speaks. 449 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: Is he claims that he. 450 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: Represents the forgotten guy, the forgotten woman, like he is 451 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: the Panhandle of Florida representative for MSNBC, and yet he 452 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: is in no way reflective of what people who live 453 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: in the Panhandle of Florida think. And I spend a 454 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: lot of time he hasn't been to know these people. Well, 455 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: to be fair, he hasn't been. It's been like twenty 456 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: thirty years since he was a congres Oh, like very long. 457 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't pretended that guy hasn't set foot 458 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: in the Panhandle for any professional reason in a long time. 459 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that. 460 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: But he still claims to be a big Alabama football 461 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: fan and like, oh, I'm really down with the SEC 462 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: football culture and stuff like that. I mean, that is 463 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: his at least was his entry point. How long How 464 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: long has it been? 465 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: He left in two thousand and one, so it's been 466 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty some odd years. Twenty okay, so two years? 467 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: Is it in any way representative of what the people 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: in the Panhandle are like? And I love the people 469 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: if you're listening to us right now in the Panhandle 470 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: of Florida, I love all of you. I think it's 471 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: one of the best places in all of the United States. 472 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of the capital of the SEC that not 473 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: the Securities in Exchange Commission. For those of you out 474 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: there on the coast, the Southeastern Conference, where everybody in 475 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: the South goes to the beach, used to be called, 476 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: still somewhat fondly, I think is at times the redneck 477 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: Rivia era because the beaches are beautiful, but it's easy 478 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: to get down there from cities like where I'm from, Nashville, Birmingham, Atlanta. 479 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: A lot of you listening to us right now from 480 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: Houston and Texas where there aren't great beaches. New Orleans, 481 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: Baton Rouge, like all that area. Everybody kind of comes 482 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: and they stay on those beaches, right that is the 483 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 2: SEC's beaches. And so this guy claiming that he's a 484 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: voice for that community is one hundred percent a lie. 485 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 2: And you raised another interesting point. We need to have 486 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: our staff just pay attention to how many brands advertise 487 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: on Morning Joe that are I mean, that is a 488 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: super left wing propaganda network, and that's a super left 489 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: wing propaganda show. Yet virtually every brand in America is 490 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: fine with Joe Scarborough coming out and saying the reason 491 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: I got COVID is because I didn't get my eighth 492 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: COVID booster shot. I mean, the guy is a clown 493 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: and he's an embarrassment. And to compare Fetterman in any 494 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: way to Lincoln in Churchill is just so appably absurd 495 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: that when I saw this buck that you shared it, 496 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: I was like, this is too perfect. 497 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: Starbucks pays for product placement, Starbucks pays that show of 498 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 4: hypocritical leftist phonies. They're not actually leftists, but they just 499 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: say this stuff. They say this stuff so the BLM 500 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: activist will be like, Okay, you know they're they're they're 501 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: mouthing the preferred slogans here on TV right, they're saying, 502 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 4: they're they're giving lip service to these issues. But yeah, 503 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 4: I know, it's it's kind of funny. I mean, whenever 504 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: someone tells me they like morning Joe, it's it's a 505 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 4: little bit like when someone sends me their resume. 506 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: And has pronouns in it. I'm gonna be honest with you, 507 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't know, we need to start 508 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: our own coffee company. 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Appreciate you 535 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: rolling with us, and we've got a lot coming up 536 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 4: in the next hour. We've obviously got more information last 537 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: twenty four hours about that shooting in Alan, Texas and 538 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: the answer that we're getting from. First of all, there's 539 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: a lot of back and forth over what is verified 540 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: versus what is circulating on social media. Apparently some news 541 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: outlets have gone with the wrong photo of the shooter. 542 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: I mean, real mistakes you really don't want to make. 543 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of stuff floating around. We want 544 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: to try to sift through what is verified what is real. 545 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 4: But at this stage, what we know is because this 546 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: has been reported on multiple places and I believe law 547 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: enforcement has confirmed this as well. The shooter, what is 548 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: was a Hispanic male. He did have immigrant parents who 549 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: don't speak English, but did have a component of his 550 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: ideology that was Nazi related. So they're still saying that 551 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 4: we have a white supremacist Hispanic mass shooter. And Clay 552 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: even sent me yesterday was that Axios had that story 553 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: the rise of white supremacist Hispanics. 554 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: Right, Isn't that which you know? So we'll talk about this. 555 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean it is also I'll put this out there 556 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: because you know, I did terrorism analysis professionally for years. 557 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: It is possible to just be a psychopath with no 558 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: coherent ideology whatsoever, who just anything that is hateful and 559 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: destructive they glom onto. There's not a real coherent political 560 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: motivation to anything. That is also a thing that is 561 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: actually quite common for mass shooters or even terrorists. But 562 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: we'll get into some more of that coming up here 563 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: in a few minutes. You know, Clay, what's your what's 564 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: your take? This is a hard TOURNAMENTE. What is your 565 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: take on on Bill Gates? 566 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: I it's an interesting point, It's an interesting question. I 567 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: was thinking about him only in the context. Yesterday we 568 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: got a lot of funny responses about who's the worst 569 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: guy to get choked out by, and a lot of 570 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: people were like, if you get choked out by Bill Gates. 571 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: That would be worse than Zuckerberg. To be fair, I 572 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: think it would be worse than Zuckerberg. Just no shame 573 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: in if Jeff Bezos chokes you out current Jeff Bezos, 574 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: no shame in that game. 575 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: Bezos can binge. 576 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: Six hundred pounds now based on the biceps he's got 577 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: the drugs that he's on, by the way, testosterone drugs. 578 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what else. 579 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to suddenly get into a battle of 580 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: illegal resources with Jeff Bezos over drug use or for 581 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: that matter, bicep use. But I think I used to 582 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 2: be a fan of Bill Gates in the context of 583 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of capitalism, and what he built at 584 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: Microsoft was a very successful business. But I almost don't 585 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: think of him now in any way as a capitalist. 586 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: And now he sort of seems like a creepy old 587 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: dude that's connected aggressively to COVID shots and the vaccination 588 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: and everything else. And Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein and his 589 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: own wife left him based on some of the revelations 590 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: and the whole Epstein thing, I think the only thing 591 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: that makes any sense to me about the Jeffrey Epstein story. 592 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: And there have been continuing revelations in the Wall Street 593 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: Journal over the past few days about the relationships that 594 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: Epstein kept after he had pled guilty to inappropriate relationships 595 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: with underage girls. If I remember correctly, back in like 596 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, he still had entree to a 597 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: lot of very powerful people in all walks of life. 598 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: One of them was Bill Gates, who he seemed to 599 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: have a really good relationship with. The Only thing that 600 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: makes sense to me, Buck, is that Jeffrey Epstein was 601 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: in some way an asset of the CIA of the FBI, 602 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: and that's why we've never really gotten a full disclosure 603 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: of what went on there, how he got super wealthy 604 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: and all the relationships that he had. It's kind of 605 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: like Jack Nicholson and The Departed, when you find out 606 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: at the end that Jack Nicholson is actually a federal informant. 607 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: Remember that that was one of the better revelations in 608 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: that movie. 609 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 4: I brought up Bill Gates, So yes, I think that 610 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: the Gates Foundation is creepy and in some ways frightening, 611 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: and the eat Bugs thing. I mean, I could sit 612 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: here and go into a lot of criticism over Bill 613 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: Gates that I think he very much deserves. I think 614 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: he can often be a He was certainly an aligned 615 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: for us onvaccines. I don't like. I'm not pro Bill Gates. Yeah, 616 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: I thought this is interesting. Nuclear energy though, if we 617 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: do it right and climate goals here play this clip 618 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: play eleven. Why are you so committed to nuclear energy? 619 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 7: Well, nuclear energy, if we do it right, will help 620 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 7: us solve our climate goals. What do you see to 621 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 7: the critics who say it's expensive. 622 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 6: There are the safety and security issues, and then there's. 623 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: The issue of radioactive waste, which lasts thousands of years. 624 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 7: Yes, today's plants are way too expensive. The autonomy challenge, 625 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 7: you know, we just have to change. We've solved all 626 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 7: the areas where there have been safety challenges, and we 627 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 7: have dramatically less waste, but every one of those areas, 628 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 7: to mention, there are valid concerns that Terra Power has 629 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 7: to show that we've see. 630 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: Okay, So I bring this up, Clay, because I actually 631 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: went was in China a few years ago, you know, 632 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 4: doing on a business on a business trip, and I 633 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 4: spend some time. I remember on a ride around on 634 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 4: a bus there with a guy who's a nuclear energy expert, 635 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: and I was fascinated by this nuclear energy. If we 636 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: were serious about all this stuff, if we're serious about 637 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: CO two emissions. We're serious about climate change is the answer. 638 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 4: It is so clearly the answer that it actually terrifies 639 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: these these green groups and all the rest of it, 640 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: because they don't really think that the world's going to 641 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: melt from CO two. They want lots of control over 642 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: your life. They want to do all the social engineering 643 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: of who gets their energy from where, and how much 644 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: climate impact or you allowed to have, and how do 645 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: we send money around the world through a kind of 646 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: global Marxism because of climate nuclear energy would and they've 647 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: completely destroyed the industry in this country, largely because of 648 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: fears that are unfounded. This is the this is the fix, 649 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: and the climate environment doesn't work because you can't. You 650 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: can't go around have Greta yell at people and call 651 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 4: them monsters if you fix the problem. The whole point 652 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: is to have little, imbecile Greta yelling at adults about 653 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 4: how trillions of dollars of economic. 654 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: Output should go. 655 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: I saw a great meme on this, and I do 656 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: think nuclear energy is wildly underused. And three Mile Island 657 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: and Chernobyl and all these other stories immediately come to 658 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: people's minds because it has been created as this vastly 659 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: more dangerous form of energy production than it is. 660 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: But I saw a. 661 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: Meme where it was like the feeling you have when 662 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: your paper straw crumbles as you attempt to have your 663 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: morning coffee and you simultaneously see a story about a 664 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: super rich celebrity on their private jet traveling for climate 665 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 2: change related issues. I think what many people out there 666 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: recognize and feel is that this entire Green New Deal 667 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: concept is the biggest ball of bologney that any of 668 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: us have had to deal with in our lives, and 669 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: that all the things we're doing that supposedly make a 670 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: big difference, like recycling, for instance, hateo is nothing at 671 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 2: all to help our planet. 672 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 4: Hey everyone, just in case you don't know, recycling is 673 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 4: a scam