1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: the podcast. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: party after the party, the bridge to get you from 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: are talking about this week's full episode subject on Frank Sinatra. 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: A part two episode on Frank Sinatra. 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Actually, we're rewinding back to Studio fifty four previewing our 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: upcoming episode on the Replacements, and get into your voicemails, text, dms, 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: thoughts on the books, we're reading, the music, we're listening 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: to the film and television we're watching, and and we 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: dig into the Diddy verdict follow and there's always a 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: whole lot of rosie. All right, disc goes, let's get 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: into it. It's not often that a jury in a 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: federal trial for racketeering answers our Disgraceland question of the 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: week for us, But. 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Guys, That's what happened. 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: By now you know that Sean Ditty Combs was deemed 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: not guilty of racketeering conspiracy, and not guilty of sex 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: trafficking by force, fraud or coercion. He was found guilty 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: of two lesser counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. So, 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: in light of our recent Part two episode on Frank Sinatra, 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: we asked, was Frank Sinatra the most gangster musician of 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: all time? 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: And according to the jury in the Shawn. 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Combs trial, Seawn Combs at least is not the most 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: gangster musician of all time, at least if we're going 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: by the book. Now, I don't know, just because as 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: he got off on the more serious charges, I cannot 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: unsee Sean ditty Comb's viciously beating on Cassie Ventura and yeah, 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: impossible to accept. But does that make him guilty of racketeering? No, 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: it does not. And as our recent Sinatra episode points out, 38 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Frank got violent with the opposite sex too, at least 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: if we're to believe Peter Lawford's story about Frank putting 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: that woman through the plate glass window. Now, like most 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: of you guys, I read a ton of books. I 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: read more than I spend I spend more time reading, 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: I should say more than I spend my time on TikTok. 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: And I gotta say I'm pretty annoyed by the Sean 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Didty Coombs corner of TikTok, the Jaguar Rights the wild 46 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: claims about a list celebrities involved in Ditty's worst crimes. 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Of course, none of that came out in trial, and I'll. 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Admit there was a moment there where I thought it might, 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: but I was never convinced, which is why in the 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: recent Diddy episode that we released, I based it entirely 51 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: on the indictments and the publicly available legal documents at 52 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: the time. Almost everything in that episode that came out 53 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: in the trial as I expected it would. Everything in 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Our Disgrace and Part two Sean Combs episode. Most of 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: that was touched upon in the recent Shawn Combs trial. 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: And of course the trial gave us more details, stuff 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: that I didn't have proved, stuff that none of us 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: had beforehand. 59 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: But the trial did not give. 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Us anything that the TikTok gossip merchants were pedaling like gospel. Okay, 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the New Sinatra episode it's based on real information information 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: that I found in a recent book called Frank Sinatra 63 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: and the Mafia Murders. It was released just two years ago, 64 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: and it's based on sourcing from recently released Los Angeles 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: police intelligence files and a whole cachet of new FBI 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: documents that the authors got their hands on. Now, none 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: of it was taken from xis guys with YouTube channels 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: or TikTok account ounce And as you've likely heard by now, 69 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Sinatra's involvement with the mafia is pretty damn disgraceful and 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: more gangster than what Sean Combs was officially found guilty of, 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: at least as far as the official record is concerned. Now, 72 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: speaking of records, switching gears here a little bit, Nirvana's 73 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: Unplugged it's getting its thirtieth anniversary remaster in re release, 74 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: and that reminded me that I bought this album on 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: vinyl when it came out. I still have it, and 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I still listen to it, and I kind of want 77 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: to get this remaster and abe the quality to see 78 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: if there's actually any difference between the original that I 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: have and the new remaster. How's your record collection doing? Okay, 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: let me know. Let me know if you got anything 81 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: you're excited about recently. I'm super excited on the reading front. 82 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: I talked about this, I believe in the All Access 83 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: portion of last week's After Party episode. But I'm super 84 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: excited about the Chris Whitaker book that I'm reading, called 85 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: We Begin at the End. It reads, you know, I've 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: got Nebraska from Bruce Springsteen on my mind. It's been 87 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: a theme the last couple of weeks here, but it 88 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: reads like Nebraska sounds. The book is sparse, it's poetic, 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: it's thrilling. It's filled with characters that are barely hanging 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: onto a world is trying to shake shake them loose. 91 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Nick Chris Whitaker has a new book out right now 92 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: that a ton of people are freaking out over. It's 93 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: number three on the New York Times bestseller list at 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: the moment, I believe I haven't read that yet, but 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: I'm psyched to that. 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: One's called All the Colors of the Dark. 97 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: You're probably going to hear about that, but when you do, 98 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: know that the book, his first book, called We Begin 99 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: at the End, is tremendous. This guy's a serious, serious author, 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to read All this stuff, but 101 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: especially this new one, All the Colors of the Dark. 102 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: Also just finished reading Brian Wilson's autobiography called I Am 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Brian Wilson and I'm here to say that I am 104 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Jake Brennan, and this book broke my heart. I'm having 105 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: a hard time writing this Brian Wilson episode this week. 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: It's hard to find something original to say about a 107 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: guy who so much has already been said about. But 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: I think I found a unique way into Brian's incredible 109 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: story and I'll have this episode ready for you, guys shortly. 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait to bring it to you. But before that, 111 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: coming up next to your feed, we've got our rewind 112 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: into our Studio fifty four episode. Of course, lots of sex, 113 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: lots of drugs, dead dude trapped in the walls, Federal 114 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: agents crashing the whole party. It's a whole thing, man. 115 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: That's coming up next to your feed right after the 116 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: bonus episode. Then after that next Tuesday, we're bringing you 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: our episode on the Replacements, a punk rock, rock and 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: roll cautionary tale of self destruction if there ever was one. Okay, 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: when you're listening to this Replacements episode, guys, I want 120 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: you to be thinking about which band or artist never 121 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: made it big but should have. Not that the Replacements 122 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: weren't big. They're legends in their own right. But you 123 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: gotta understand, people who were around then expected the Replacements 124 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: to be Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Okay, to be 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties version of the Rolling Stones. Okay, that 126 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: didn't happen. They weren't as big as most believe they 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: should have been. And we all know bands like this. 128 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: We all have even friends who were in bands who 129 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: were great bands, great musicians, that never got the de 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: that they deserve. So let me know it. Are the 131 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Replacements the best example of that? Or are there other bands, 132 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: perhaps other artists that we should know about that You 133 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: might want to turn on other Disgraceland listeners, the other discos, 134 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: onto these artists, onto these bands that are more unknown 135 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: that never really broke through that should have. Okay, call 136 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: us six one seven nine was six six sixty three 137 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: eight dm us at Disgrace lam Pod and your answers 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: might land in next week's after party. 139 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: That's it from my world this week. Okay. 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: I could have spent, of course, an hour at least 141 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: talking about Seawan Colmbs. 142 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: I've been on. 143 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: I've been doing radio interviews all day across the country. 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you're driving around Wichitak, Kansas, Chicago, Detroit. 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Those are the ones I've done so far today, and 146 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: you might hear me. I don't know. We'll see. Got 147 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: more lined up for tomorrow. 148 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: But right now, I got your voicemails, your texts, and 149 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: your dms lined up right on the other side of 150 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: this brick. 151 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: All right, we are back. Apple podcast listeners. You know 152 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: the drill. 153 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Turn on auto downloads. Okay, turn on your auto downloads 154 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: and your Apple Podcasts app. That way, you don't miss 155 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: any of our Disgraceline episodes. Okay, six one, seven, nine 156 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: oh six sixty six three eight. You know where I'm 157 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: atam in the phone booth. That's one across the hall. 158 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me 159 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: a voicemail, You want to send me a text? Hit 160 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: me up voicemail And this week's question of the week 161 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: in relation to Frank Sinatra, who's the most gangster musician 162 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: of all time? 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Karen Reid? 164 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Karen Reid writes in Hey Jake, Karen Reid from the 165 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: two eight one sugar Land Texas. Not a Karen and 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: not that Karen Reid. I'm responding to your question of 167 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the week. Frank Sinatra is definitely the most gangster actor 168 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: celebrity musician. I'm re listening to the Frank Sinatra episodes 169 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: right now. When you listen, I mean really listen. You 170 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: need a stringboard to connect all the characters, historical places, events, times, 171 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: and romantic liaisons. 172 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: You got me started down so. 173 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: Many rabbit holes with the new episode two Judas Campbell, Exner, 174 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Laura Gooding aka Dorothylima, the kal Neva Casino Cia conspiracies, 175 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: and I need to know more. She goes on to say, 176 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: not having your podcast on my commute or anytime would 177 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: be a disgrace. 178 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: PS. 179 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Diddy is a gangst, a less class unfortunately charismatic for 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: those he befriended and brought into his web of perversion, 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: ruthless and sexual depravity. I hope he gets what's coming. 182 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: If he doesn't, that's as grace. Happy fourth to you 183 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: with the team at Double Elves. Happy happy fourth of 184 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: July to you as well, Karen Reid. Happy to hear 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: you beat the route. I'm just kidding. I know nothing 186 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: about the Karen Reid case and I know you're not 187 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: the real Karen Reid. We had a pretty extensive conversation 188 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: last week about great Singer Songwriter's Greatest singer songwriter as 189 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: all time? 190 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: If you remember, we went through. 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: That list and I heard from a lot of you, 192 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: and there were some there were some serious singer songwriters 193 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: who were left off of that list. You guys have 194 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: reminded me of a ton seven to seven writes and Hey, Jake. 195 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Two singer songwriter albums that would definitely be on my 196 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: list are Graham Parsons Grievous Angel and Tom Waits His 197 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Frank's Wild Years. Love the Show, So keep doing what 198 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: you do. 199 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 3: Eric. 200 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting to hear you put Grievous Angel ahead of GP. 201 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: They're both fantastic. I think GP is a smidge better 202 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: and really hard for me to pick a favorite Tom 203 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: Waits album. I don't know if I did, though, I 204 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: don't know that I love Frank's. I don't know if 205 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: that would be it. Maybe Swordfish Trombone I love Bone 206 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Machine too, even though later kind of messed up that 207 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: both those artists weren't on the list. Leonard Cohen was 208 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: also left off the list. Someone else pointed out Billy 209 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Joel Elton John three h two rights in. Warren Zevon 210 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: and John Prine are for sure among the best singer 211 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: songwriters of all time, but The Wind is a far 212 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: better album than Zevon's self titled second album. He does 213 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: a haunting cover of Knocking on Heaven's Store as he is, 214 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: in fact dying well, I need to hear that. That's 215 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna make me sad though. Four one five rights in, Hey, 216 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell, how could she be left off the list? 217 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: It's a really good, really good point. That's Glenn in 218 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: the four one five, six one seven rights in. Favorite 219 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: singer songwriter album is Living with Ghosts by Patty Griffin. 220 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: That's a bold statement. Six one seven. 221 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: I would expect nothing less from somebody back in my 222 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: hometown seven two four, Hey, Jake, just listen to your 223 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: after party episode. You asked about great singer songwriters. I 224 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: gotta say my favorites that you didn't mention were Gordon 225 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: Lightfoot and Marty Robbins, and both can be seen as 226 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: some of the most successful, especially for the genre. Marty Robbins, 227 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I get Oh Devil Woman. Gordon Lightfoot on the other hand. 228 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I get the love for 229 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: Gordon Lightfoot not one of my faves. Maybe it should be. 230 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I love Beck's Sea Change, and people often say that 231 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Sea Change by Beck is a Gordon Lightfoot ripoff. I 232 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: think it's more of a Serge Gainsburger ripoff. 233 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 234 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Get back at me seven two four let me know 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: where to start with Gordon Lightfoot. God, these these messages 236 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: on the singer songwriter stuff are quite pretty endless. 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: Here five four to Roh writes and brings up. 238 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Steve Earle five four oh Steven in the five four 239 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: oh Steve row one of the all time greats. 240 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: Have fun. 241 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I have a couple funny stories about Steve rol I've 242 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: probably shared him with you guys before. 243 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: I won't. I won't belabor it. 244 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's check out this voicemail here again, I'm 245 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: the same subject. Here's the four one four. 246 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, this is right. 247 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: I am calling to respond to your after show the 248 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 5: other night, actually last night, and you were talking about 249 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 5: singer songwriters and I did not understand why no one 250 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 5: mentions Tom Waits as an incredible singer songwriter. He is 251 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: beyond amazing and also Nick Cave, I know that he 252 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: sometimes writes with his band, but I believe that he 253 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 5: writes a lot of stuff himself. So I was hoping 254 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 5: that maybe you guys could think about doing episodes on 255 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 5: them that would be amazing. 256 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, and oh. 257 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: Oh damn, there was another thing that I thought of. 258 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna have to tell you that. 259 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: All right, you take care, All. 260 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Right, Ram calls back when you remember what you wanted 261 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: to say. I just talked about Tom Waits, and you know, 262 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: I can add a little bit here. When I was 263 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: just starting out as an adult in making music, if 264 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: you asked me which artist's career what I want to replicate? 265 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: What if the answer would have been Tom Waits? For sure? 266 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: Of course, I wasn't doing anything close to approaching the 267 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: greatness that Tom Waits was doing, nor was I really 268 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: trying that hard. Nick Cave tremendous as well. This is 269 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: really hard. There's no way you can come up with 270 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: ten a list of ten of the greatest singer songwriters. 271 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: There's just there's too many you have to leave off. 272 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna leave Nick Cave off that list. 273 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: PJ. Harvey, PJ. Harvey, Leonard Cohen, No, you can't. 274 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, this is Clint from the seven to two 275 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: to four. Try out Jim Carroll Catholic Boy for a 276 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: singer songwriter album. I think he wrote most of the 277 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: songs on that album, and the production and everything on 278 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: its killer. It's just a good one from like the 279 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: late seventies. Bro, keep it up, you do a good job. 280 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: Thanks man, Bye Clinton. 281 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: The seven two four. I actually don't know that record 282 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: that well. 283 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard I think that's the one that 284 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: has people who died and whatever the other song single 285 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: was that got some tractions. I know those tunes of course, 286 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: even though I can't think of the other one's name 287 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: right now, But I don't know that as an album. 288 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: So great recommendation, and I'm pumped to be reminded to 289 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: check out Jim Carroll. Jim Carroll should be an episode 290 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: of Disgraceland. I've never seen the Basketball Diaries, by the way, 291 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: have you, guys? 292 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: I have not? Six one seven nine oh six six 293 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: six three eight. 294 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: You want to hit me up, leave voicemail or text 295 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: at Disgraceland pod on Instagram, TikTok x, and Facebook if 296 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with me over there. 297 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: Kelly Van Violet sibling. 298 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly, but I'm probably not 299 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: right saying, hey, I just happened to listen to the podcast, 300 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: your podcast for the Beach Boys within the last two 301 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: days on Disgraceland. I finished it up this morning on 302 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: way to work, and I can tell you what the 303 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Beach Boys meant to me growing up as somebody whose 304 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: mother grew up in the sixties, somebody who was heavily 305 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: influenced on this music. I am deeply saddened to hear 306 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: the news about Brian Wilson. Thank you for sharing your stuff. 307 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: You know. 308 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say here, Kelly and everybody else when the 309 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: news about Brian Wilson's death, you know, it didn't really 310 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: affect me one way or another. Old rock stars die 311 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: all the time. Oftentimes rock stars die and you can 312 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: immediately feel the hole, and we felt that. I felt 313 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: that with other people. I didn't feel it myself. But 314 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: now that I've been in this research and writing for 315 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: the last week and a half on Brian Wilson, I 316 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: do feel a tremendous amount of sadness this guy and 317 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I knew all this before, but when you get into 318 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: his head, especially in the autobiography. He was not only 319 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: a genius, not only a hugely important cultural figure in 320 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: our culture, he was also a man who was largely 321 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: a child. And I don't mean that in a negative way. 322 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean that in kind of the best way, and 323 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: his mental illness certainly had something to do with that. 324 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: He was taken advantage of. 325 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: He God, it's really rough because there's so much innocence 326 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: in his songs, Innocence and beauty. And I've listened to 327 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: that sort of nineties late or early nineties. I believe 328 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: think it's nineteen ninety one, the Love and Mercy track 329 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: that album. But that's so the song Love and Mercy, 330 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: I should say, I don't think that's the any of 331 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: the album With the song Love and Mercy. I've it's 332 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: just been on repeat the last few days, and it's 333 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: it's wrecked me. It's so simple, it's so beautiful. It's 334 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: such a fantastic representation I think of who Brian Wilson 335 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: was as a person, as a character, and I'm a 336 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: bit wrecked by it. And I'm looking forward for all 337 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: of you, you, especially Kelly, hearing this Brian Wilson episode. 338 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: So thanks for writing, you guys want to hit me 339 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: up at Disgrace Slam pod on the socials, go for it. 340 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: Wicked Wanda writes, in in relation to Sean Ditty Combs, 341 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: he is guilty, like Ojy, Wicked Wanda and everybody else, 342 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: I feel your pain, you know, I just circle them 343 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: back to the diddy thing here. I have this one thought, 344 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: and I've been talking about this all day. We can't 345 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: unsee what Sean Combs did to Cassie Ventura, but he 346 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: was on trial for that, and I do think he's 347 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: guilty of things if they weren't proven. Two things can 348 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: be true at once. I can't exactly say what those 349 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: things are. 350 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 351 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: I don't think really anyone truly knows who's on the 352 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: outside like we are. But I think it's also possible 353 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: that the government overreached here, and that's why we ended 354 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: up where we ended up. 355 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: Shocking. 356 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's gonna do any time. I 357 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: mean he'll do sometime, but not real time. So yeah, 358 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: you're oj komp it might be entirely accurate. Wicked Wanda, 359 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: thanks for checking in. All right, let's switch gears here. 360 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: Let's get into our little sports section of the sow 361 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: this this is this is a sixty second sports rant 362 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and under thirty seconds or whatever we're calling this segment 363 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: for the discos who are also sports geeks like me. 364 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: All right, Mack, give me the buzzer, give you the 365 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: little buzzer beater thing me. All right, listen, Sports world 366 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: kind of dead right now. Okay, not a lot going on. 367 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: I don't care about tennis or the WNBA beating the 368 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: piss out of Caitlin Car What the hell is that 369 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: all about? 370 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: By the way, I did it. Like I said, not 371 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: a lot going on. 372 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: So I did a quick google of the five greatest 373 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: sports movies of all time, and Vulture gave me the 374 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: following number five Fox Catcher, Never seen it. Number four 375 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Bull Durham Great, might be too high on this list. 376 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Number three Rocky wrong answer. This should be number two 377 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: two they have here in Vulture on the list, Number two, 378 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Raging Bull. That's also the wrong answer. That should be 379 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: number three. Number one Hoop Dreams great, great, great movie, 380 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: but wrong. The correct answer is to the question of 381 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: what is the greatest sports movie of all time? Well, 382 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: that is, of course, Slapshot from nineteen seventy seven. Featuring 383 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Paul Newman, The Handsome Brothers, and Eddie Shore's Old time 384 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: Hockey Tell Me I'm wrong six one seven nine O 385 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: six six six three eight. 386 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 6: I'll be back in the flash. 387 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to the show. We are back, back, 388 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: back back. This week, the hollywood Land Minute is brought 389 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: to you by Roman Polanski. Sort of that doesn't really 390 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: make sense, but you know what I'm talking about. The 391 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: hollywood Land episode we're featuring this week is on Roman Polanski. Okay, 392 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: from Chinatown to exile, oscar acclaim to extradition, battles, and 393 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: all kinds of other disgraceful things that I'm not going 394 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: to get into here. You need to subscribe to Hollywood 395 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Land to hear this episode, Okay. And of course, in 396 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: addition to this episode, this week, Zeth and I, my guys, 397 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: Zeth guy who writes most of the Hollywoodland episodes. 398 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: He and I. 399 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: Every week we're doing a whole other bonus thing over there. 400 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: It's called the Rap Party right in the Hollywood Land feed, 401 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: all right, complete with our recommendations, our movies, music even 402 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: all right, Matt, give them a little taste, give them 403 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of the rap party, Jake. 404 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: What's going on? Brothers Tony from the two O six 405 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: Just listen to the Roman Polansky episode, and Uh's talk 406 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: about the question you ask about. Are you able to 407 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: you know, separate the artists from their art, the creator 408 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 3: from their art, And honestly, if it's more easier for 409 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: me to do in movies than it is say music, 410 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: for example, Like I know a lot of people that 411 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: will still watch a John Wayne film and can totally 412 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: separate that from who John Wayne was the person. You know, 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: Google the nineteen seventy one Playboy article versus music. Like 414 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: for me, I can't listen to any of R. Kelly's 415 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: music anymore because a lot of his music is him 416 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: telling on himself, you know. And I guess with Roman 417 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 3: Polanski it's kind of like with some of his. 418 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: Work telling on himself in a way. 419 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, but that's just my take on it. Man. 420 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: Much love to you, much love in the two six. 421 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: I hope you're having a good summer. Stay hydrated, brother. 422 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: Tony in the two US six. Great to hear from you. 423 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Great way to frame this question when you're comparing the 424 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: transgressions of film directors and musicians. I think maybe put 425 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the telling on yourself aside, piece aside for a second. 426 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: But the I don't know his music more personal? Is 427 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: that what it is? 428 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: Zeth? Is that what makes it harder? I think it 429 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: could be. 430 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 7: I think there's a big part of what the music 431 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 7: that you listen to being such a part of your 432 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 7: identity in a way that the movies that you watch 433 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 7: aren't part of your identity. I don't have a fast 434 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 7: clear answer for why that is the case. But music 435 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 7: has always been such a part of who you are. 436 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly for me, But but movies too to some degree, 437 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Woody Allen is certainly in 438 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Manhattan telling on himself to use, to use Tony's phrase, 439 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: but I can I still love that movie, and. 440 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. I don't. I don't know 441 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: if it's different between musicians and directors for me. 442 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: All Right, guys, that's Hollywood Land that is available wherever 443 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. 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Thanks for hanging on me 491 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: for another after party. 492 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: Here, guys, we talked about a bunch of artists in 493 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: this episode that we've covered in our previous episodes of Disgrace, 494 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: and of course Sean Diddy combs two episodes on Shawn Comes. 495 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: You want to hear those. 496 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: The second one gets explicitly into the Cassi Ventura indictment. 497 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: Check that out. We also mentioned Nirvanda. I'm not sure 498 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: who else. 499 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: Matt. 500 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Matt'll figure it out and he'll put it all in 501 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: the show notes for you. He'll make it easy for you. 502 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: All right, it'll be writing that you can find where 503 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: these episodes are in our archive. But for now, let's recap, 504 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: all right. Number one this week's full episode of Disgrace 505 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: on Frank Sinatra, Part two on Frank Sinatra. That's available 506 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: for you right now top of your feed. 507 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: Number two. 508 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: Coming up next to your feed is our rewind episode 509 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: our Studio fifty four episode number three coming next week. 510 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: New episode on the Replacements number four over in the 511 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: Hollywoodland feed Polanski plus our rap Party bonus episode where 512 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: Zetta and I are unpacking the story and giving you 513 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: our recommendations. 514 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: Number five six one seven. 515 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: Nine six six six three eight voicemail text dm me 516 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: at s gracelampod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and ex disgracelampod. 517 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: At gmail dot com to email number six. Don't forget. 518 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: No one cares about music, books, records and the crime 519 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: and grime that ties it all together like you do, 520 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: and well that is a disgrace. 521 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: On December eighth. 522 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: However, nineteen sixty three, Frank Sinatra's son was kidnapped, and 523 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: a mafia and force's phone calls set off a chain 524 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: of really really bad things. Here is what America was 525 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: listening to at that time. Number one on the Billboard Charts. 526 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: Dominique the Singing Nun last week two, peak position one 527 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: weeks on chart five. Number two, I'm Leaving It up 528 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: to You, Dale and Grace last week one, peak position 529 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: one weeks on chart week number three, Buddy. 530 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: Tommy Rowe last week last. 531 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Peak positions three weeks on chart nine on number four. 532 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Louis Leonie the Keys last year number twenty three, peak 533 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: position four weeks on Church peak five, number five on 534 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: She's A four weeks on Leslie Numbers. 535 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Last week six, peak position five weeks on Chick 536 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 3: Quit talking and start mixing.