1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how to make sausage. I don't know 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: what goes in the sausage, but I do know how 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: to build a football team because I've been around for 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: fifty two years. Mark, you've been around forty nine now, Yes, 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: do you know how to make sausage? I do not either. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: I guess that's to judge Jim or say. At this time, 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Dan has is here from the Chris Wesley podcast studio 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: with Greg Roseenthal and Mark Sessler. Yes, that is the 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: owner the Indianapolist Cults who rocked the football world, to 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: say the least on Monday with the announcement that fifth 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: year head coach Frank Reich was fired, And that was 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: Greg seis mcnews. Anytime a coach is fired in the 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: middle of the year without much of a heads up, 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: it's always big news. But then what took the story 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: from a big story to huge, borderline surreal gallery of 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: the absurd was his replacement, on an interim basis at least, 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: is forty seven year old former Colts center Jeff Saturday, 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: who until this week was an analyst for ESPN. This 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: is some Maverick owner stuff. Whether you think it's good 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: or bad. We could discuss that, and that's what we're 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: about to do on the show. It's all unprecedented, it's 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: all disarming, like the music playing so deep into the 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: start of this show, and I like it, you know, 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: I just like being destabilized. And I like to imagine 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Mark eating sausage because I think that's the type of 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: meat product that would most revolt him. Why have we 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: already gone there in this show, a show with a 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: trenchant news item to take into. I'm not saying I 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: liked the hire of Jeff Saturday, but I do like 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: the theater of absurd that sort of followed the Frank 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Reich firing, and I you like, you like Frank Rereich. 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into all that that that that the 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: press conference kind of took the news which was already 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: outlandish and just update it. Yeah, and I and went 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: bigger and uh a little peek behind the curtain. Right 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: before we taped today, I was on NFL Now for 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: like the one Last Thought segment, and they're like, oh, 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: we gotta spill out some more of this er say, 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: press conference, and then we'll have Steve Uh with Andrew 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: and Dan on to react. And then in your ears 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: like don't don't go too far, don't go too far, 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: And so my comment was like, you know what, I 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: don't agree with the decisions being made, but let's bring 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: on the weird. Let's keep twenty two weird. And there 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: are serious sides of the story and and big questions 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Mark that you could ask about the Cults process, and 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Zach Keefer on in a little bit 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: to really dig into what's going on behind the scenes there. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: But overall, Um, and I know you were a man 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: that embraces chaos. This is chaos in the Midwest. Yeah, 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: because I feel like you know, on our Friday fun show, 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: we we come up with predictions and they can be 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: um very football hardcore predictions. Some of them I can 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: get strange. And if I had told you last Friday 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: that I my sports lock of the week would be 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: that Jeff Saturday, ESPN analysts former Cults Center would be 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: named the Cults Interim coach, you just laughed me off 58 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: the show and we'd end it because it's that absurd. 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: But it's so far. That's a new thing with our listeners, 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: which I really like. It shows up my mentions all 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: the time. Anything something stupid happens, like McKinney for the 62 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: Giants who broke his hand into a t V accident 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: in Cabo. It's like, oh, did Mark predict that on 64 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: the Friday Show. It's a great it's a great way 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: to steer the minds of the viewers. That's what they think. Um. 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: But before we get to Zach, because really we need 67 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on with the Cults, and 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: nobody knows more about that team than Zach Kieffer, let's 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: get a little more sound from Jim Er say, just 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: to give you again if you're not caught up on 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: the story. During Monday Night football, the Cults call press 72 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: conference and Ursay explains himself. Some would say defended himself. Uh, 73 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: you know Chris Ballard the g MS there and of 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: course Jeff Saturday as well, who's just caught in the 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: middle of all this. Let's listen from RSA. I'm glad 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't have in l experience. I'm glad he hasn't 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: learned the fear that's in this league. That's because it's 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: tough for our coaches. They're afraid. They go to analytics 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and it gets difficult. I mean, he doesn't have all 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have that that fear, and there was 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: no other candidate. We were fortunate that he was available, 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: all right, and we are fortunate to say that this 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: man is available because we know he's extremely busy. I 84 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: saw that he was on the Pat mcavie show. I'm 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: sure the Athletic is hitting him up. He's got all 86 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: sorts of stuff going on. Let's welcome in the great 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: Zach Kieffer, who covers the NFL and the Colts for 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: the Athletic. He's also a co host of the one 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Percent Better Cults podcast. Man, I'll tell you what, Zach, 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: it's not. It hasn't been a good season for this team. 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: But in terms of stuff to talk about home run, 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, guys, but it's never going around here. And 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: you just I was I was just losing my mind 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: laughing at what you guys were talking about. I mean, 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: what was the weirdest part of last night was that 96 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: the sausage comment? Was that the reference to the c 97 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: I A. Was it Michael Jordan's mis shots? Was it 98 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: the trip to Mars? Was it comparing just Saturday to 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: Don Shula, Tony Dungee and Bruce arians I mean, where 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: do we start. I think I'll start with I was 101 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: going to actually use from your great column you wrote 102 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: off the press conference, your paragrapher, you reference those things, 103 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: but I'll use the first sentence instead, in which you 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: wrote this feels bold at best and reckless at worst. 105 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: The decision to fire Rank and bring in Saturday an 106 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: unprecedented gamble in modern NFL history, one that Jim Ursa 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: spent the better part of thirty five minutes Monday fervently 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: defending as only he can in terms of like the 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: surreal meter, like as a jet span, I know, like 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Rich Simini and everybody on the Jets speed. We'll talk 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: about the Belichick press conference forever when he resigned his 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: HC of the n y J. On the surreal meter, 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: what is it for you one to ten? While you're 114 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: sitting in that room digesting it. The surreal meter around 115 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: here is a lot higher than other cities. I will 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: say that, like if you're around your mercy a lot, 117 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: you hear these things all the time. Like it's not 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: abnormal for him to say in training camp, the goal 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: is to win three Super Bowls in a row, like 120 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: with this team, and so you're You're kind of used 121 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: to these rambling press conferences where you get mentions of 122 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: John Lennon and Bob Dylan and the CIA and whatever 123 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: it is. So we're used to the unusual. But um, 124 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: in terms of my career, I've covered this team for 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: nine years now. Nothing will top August when Andrew Luck retired. 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: But this is up there in terms of just a 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: surreal moment. And this was the first time I thought 128 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: this is important. This is the first time Jim Mercy 129 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: made you know, some disparaging marks at the at the BIA, 130 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: and same with Chris Ballard. They were on the defensive. 131 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: They were a little um angry, a little feisty about 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: this decision, and you know, look, it's They're hiring a 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: guy who was sixteen, was twenty and sixteen as a 134 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: high school coach to run an NFL team, who was 135 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: meeting with coaches yesterday he didn't know the name of Like, 136 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: this is unprecedented, and to question the qualifications of Jeff 137 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Saturday without questioning his playing in credentials is completely fair. 138 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: So was this weird? Yes? Yes, yes it was, Like 139 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: do you think that he is going to have the 140 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: full support of his coaching staff, Like how do you 141 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: think he is able to transition this week and we've 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: seen some of the decisions he's making in terms of 143 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: play caller and stuff now uh into being all of 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: their bosses, And how do you think that works over 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the next nine weeks. Yeah, that's a good question. But 146 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I think it's like, I think both things can be 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: true at the same time. Like Jeff Saturday is an 148 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: awesome dude. Like if you guys have ever met him, 149 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: he's an awesome dude. He was an awesome player. But 150 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: this is not This doesn't make sense in any world 151 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: that we live in. And I think whether those coaches 152 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: would ever admit it or not, they have to be 153 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: living and to be honest, they're running out of guys 154 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: to fire, Like they literally are running out of people 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: to fire. They're gonna turn to a thirty year old 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: assistant quarterbacks coach to call plays on Sunday named Parks Fraser, 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: who four years ago was a assistant to Frank Reich, 158 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: like an assistant, like the guy that would show up 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: at four thirty in the morning to get the place 160 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: scripts ready, and he was a quality control coach two 161 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: years ago. Now he's gonna be calling plays for Sam Ellinger, 162 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: for Jeff Saturday, like this is this has got maybe 163 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: one win left in it the rest of the season. 164 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: It's just hard to see this team. It's hard to 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: take this scene seriously right now. Yeah, I mean it 166 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: feels like a legitimate um November acid trip for everyone 167 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: who's absorbing the news. I'm certainly sure for you. I 168 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: guess my question because Jeff Saturday is a savvy guy. 169 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: He's been in the media, he'd he was a player, 170 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: He's been around coaches. He understands like the culture of 171 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: a locker room and what this kind of move would 172 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: mean to players in a locker room and what they've 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: already done to that the players in that locker locker 174 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: room in the last couple of weeks. How does he 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: or what was do you think he was told about 176 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: the future, because it sounds like it's just walking into 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: a disastrous eight weeks. Why would he want to do it? Um, 178 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I guess it's like behind closed doors, you're my guy 179 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: for head coach, unless like you don't want to do it, 180 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: Like why would you leave your career and come do 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: something where you're now in the middle of this Maelstrom. 182 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: I just I'm I don't understand Jeff Saturday's decision to 183 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: take the job. Mark. Before I answer, I have to 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: mention I got on Twitter last night and I saw 185 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: your tweet that basically said Jimmercy is driving the gold 186 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: spaceship into the sun, and I just lost it. I 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: don't know why that was so funny to me. I 188 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: could hear it in your voice. That's that's kind of 189 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: where we're at. And one of the most poignant moments 190 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: of this press conference last night was I asked Jeff Saturday, like, 191 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: no offense, Jeff, but like, how the hell did this happen? 192 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: And he said basically, I was as stunned as anybody. 193 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: When he got the call late Sunday night, he asked 194 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Jim or point blank, why are you considering me for 195 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: this job? Like that's a totally fair question. And we 196 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: asked Jim Mercy that question fifteen times in fifteen different 197 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: ways last night, and the only real answer we got 198 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: was that he likes him, and Jim Mercy mentioned that, look, 199 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean this is this is a real quote that 200 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: this team has been one of the winning his team 201 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: since two thousand. They're in the upper quartile of the 202 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: top quar tire of the upper quartile, whatever the hell 203 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: that means. But the problem is the problem is they're 204 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to grab onto the glory days. They're trying 205 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: to grab onto the Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck days. 206 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: They do not have that quarterback. This was the worst 207 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: offensive performance we've seen from the franchise in twenty five 208 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: years on Sunday in Foxborough. They went over fourteen on 209 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: third day. But to answer your question, Mark, the players 210 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: were not on board with the benching of Matt Ryan. 211 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: They were not. Frank Reich's hands were tied. You can 212 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: make a very strong case they should be playing in 213 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks instead of Sam Ellinger, the other being Nick Foles. 214 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: Are they trying to lose games? They keep saying they're not. 215 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: They keep fighting off the question that they're waving the 216 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: white flag. But every move they have made, these are 217 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: just mercy moves, has made them a worse team and 218 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: it's hard to see them winning many more games the 219 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: rest of the season. I would love to know what 220 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: these veteran defensive players now. The defense is bringing it. 221 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: The defensive playing well this season, but nobody knows, and 222 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: I would love to know what Stefan Gilmore thinks, this 223 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: is the guy that was with England for a long time, 224 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: an adult organization. What does he think? What does DeForest 225 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Buckner think? I mean, this is it's gonna be a 226 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: fascinating day in the locker room tomorrow, that's for sure. Yeah, 227 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: and you had said earlier, what does this team have 228 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: one winning at the rest of the season. I think 229 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: that to me, it seems like that's the goal here 230 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: at this point. It's a hard pivot by Ersay, who 231 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: has a finite amount of time to build another champion 232 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: and he sees that's not what this team was gonna be. 233 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, what do you think he's 234 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: trying to lose? Yes? Absolutely, I mean, look at the 235 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: movie at this point, I believe he is and and 236 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: and he's sending his buddy Saturday in there to kind 237 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: of keep more morale up and have a guy that 238 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: he could hang out with in this capacity. I don't know, Listen, 239 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious about the relationship with you guys in the media, 240 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: also um with Ersay and with the GM Chris Bower, 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: who by the way, got a vote of confidence yesterday. 242 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Here's here's Ballard getting fired up talking about his process 243 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: and one of several grenades I thought lobbed the way 244 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: towards Keefer and company. And we've not played as well 245 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: up front as we need to play. And I think 246 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: you all know my as y'all have been kicking the 247 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: ship out of me for years for not drafting Whitehouse. 248 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, now look up and you 249 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: know we're under performing on the offensive line right now. Um, 250 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: and that's gotta that's gotta take another that's got to improve, 251 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: that has to improve, and then the turnovers and then 252 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: the turnovers during the year that you just look at it. 253 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: We're turning the ball over and we're turning it over 254 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: inside our fifty And I just I'm just noticing for 255 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: the first time, Zach that when he says and the turnout, 256 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: he's talking over a reporter who is coming in with 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: a follow up question. It looked like, Um, what is 258 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: the general vibe between what you guys are doing and 259 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: the team and how does that kind of bake into 260 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: the overall puzzle of what's going on over there? It's 261 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: not good. Um, you know, they basically made Frank Greig's 262 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: falling the sword. On Sunday, it was it was sad 263 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: more than anything. He came into the press conference room 264 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: in Foxboro and you could just tell. You could hear 265 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: it in his voice, you could see it in his face. 266 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: Frank had known for a couple of weeks that it 267 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: was about to end, and it did end. And then 268 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: they moved to Jeff Saturday, which really gets all the attention. 269 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: We're not talking about Frank Reich anymore. That move did 270 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: make sense. The offense was going nowhere. He wasn't getting 271 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: it done. But at the same time, he had six 272 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks in five years. Now. His hands are dirty 273 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: in that because he pushed for the Carson Wentz trade 274 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: and that didn't work. But that's not that's an organizational failure, 275 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: like that's a failure from the top down to everybody. 276 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: They couldn't get this right. And Chris Ballard his hands 277 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: is dirty or as well, because at the root of 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: all of this this season, at the root of all 279 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: of it is this offensive line that can't protect sam 280 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: Ailar was sacked on nine times, you know, use the 281 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Ferris Bueller quote, like nine times on Sunday, the most 282 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: in five years. And and that was why Matt Ryan 283 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 1: wasn't able to be effective now. Matt Ryan through interceptions 284 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: and fumbled, but nobody could have played behind that offensive line, 285 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: with the exception of maybe Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. So 286 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's where Ballard's mistakes in the off season 287 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: have cost this team. And that's sort of the source 288 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: of tension right now is they thought they could play 289 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Matt Pryor at left tackle, and they moved him to 290 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: right tackle, and they played him at right guard. They've 291 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: now benched him at three different positions, which I can't 292 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: remember ever happening with this team. It took him nine 293 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: games to realize that, and they started Danny Pinter at 294 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: right guard. I don't need to go on and on 295 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: about this, but this offensive line is unrecognizable right now, 296 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: and and that's at the root of all of this. 297 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you think go back to Week one. You've 298 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: got Frank Reich is head coach, You've got Matt Ryan 299 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: is your quarterback, and you've got Matt Marcus Brady is 300 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: your O C. Right now in week ten, it's only 301 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: November eight. They have Jeff Saturday as a head coach, 302 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: they have Sam Ellinger is the quarterback, and they have 303 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Parks Fraser calling the place, like, what the hell just happened? Right? 304 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: And I mean at Week one, there was a lot 305 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: of optimism about the Cults. I didn't remember this, but 306 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Steve Weish, our friend, reminded me. He was on the 307 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Prediction show and he had Frank Rereich 308 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: as his Coach of the Year and the Cults making 309 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And he remembers me jump in and 310 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, that's a good pick for Coach of 311 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: the Year because it just like they're gonna can own it. Yeah, 312 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: at least they could be expectations and all I I 313 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: look at that offensive line and I think, yeah, Chris 314 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Ballard has a lot of fault. But I think you 315 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: have to listen to what he said. You're at fault, Zach. 316 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: You banged on about investing too much in the offensive 317 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and um and he felt for that in which that 318 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: that little joke didn't really make any sense because they're 319 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: still the most highest paid offensive line in the league 320 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: and the guys who are making a lot of money 321 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: aren't doing well, so that that didn't totally make sense. 322 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: But I do put there's some blood on your hands too. 323 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, you know what it made sense to me. 324 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: It made sense to me when Matt Ryan came here, 325 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: it did make sense, like on a football level, like 326 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: he was going to get the ball out quicker, he 327 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: was going to make the layups. Right. That was the 328 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: famous comment last year about Carson. They had Jonathan Taylor 329 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: coming off an dred yard season. I just didn't see 330 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: a line. That's like you mentioned Greg the highest paid 331 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: in the league forty two million of the salary cap 332 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: this year. I didn't see Brandon Smith regressing, Ryan Kelly regressing, 333 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: and Quentin Nelson hasn't been the same player. So you 334 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: put all that together and that's really where it all 335 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: went wrong. But look, my hands are dirty too, right, 336 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: I I miss blocks. I dropped the football as well. 337 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Oh you know it's getting bad when they're taking shots 338 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: at the media. Well you know, of course, Say was 339 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: a journalism student. He made that clear to all of us. Um. Secondly, 340 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine if you're sitting in the offices of 341 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: HBO you were wishing that last year's in season Hard 342 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Knocks was occurring right now, because I mean that would 343 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: be something I would be watching the minute it came on. 344 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: What would Jeff Saturday need to do to. Now, there's 345 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: obviously a The whole thing with the Rooney rule is 346 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: has people up in arms, and it should. I mean, 347 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: this whole thing feels insane. But what would Jeff Saturday 348 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: need to do to convince this organization or just Jim 349 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: Mercy that he is gonna be a head coach after 350 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: this eight game stint? Just lose baby m He follow 351 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the follow the owner's orders because clearly the owner is 352 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: making all the calls. I mean, I don't even think 353 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday has the power to play the quarterback he wants. 354 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: You're reporting after I noticed this um firing was interesting 355 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: because you guys seem very clear that URSA has been 356 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: making all these calls when it came to bringing in 357 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, getting rid of Carson Wentz and in this benching. Yes, yes, 358 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: that's good to point out. Um. You know, for for 359 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: a long time, he's been the owner for twenty seven 360 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: years here, he has fought to be the owner of 361 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: his father. Wasn't for those you remember bober Say. Bobber 362 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Say was a crazy volatile owner who would go down 363 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: at halftime of games and and demand that the coach 364 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: fired the quarterback. And he and if he didn't bench 365 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback. He would fire the coach before the game ended, 366 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: and then he was forty good about it two hours later. 367 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: So we're talking absolute chaos. So Jimmer said, grew up 368 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: in the league watching that and decided to be the 369 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: exact opposite. He would stay out of all this. This 370 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: is a third consecutive decision where his hands have been 371 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: very much all over. He demanded that they moved on 372 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: from Carson Wentz. He told them to bench Matt Ryan, 373 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: which I don't think Frank Brek wanted to do. I 374 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: don't think any coach would want to bench Matt Ryan 375 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: because he's clearly better than Sam Ellinger. And then he 376 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: hired Jeff's Suturday, and I don't think that's a Chris 377 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: Ballard move. Why would a GM on Denis want to 378 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: hire an unproven, untested head coach and Jeff Saturday. So 379 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: jimr sty has had his say the last couple of weeks, 380 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, which is a very un 381 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: characteristic from him, and that's a bad way to run 382 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: a franchise. That's metalline, and you gotta wonder, like who's 383 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: gonna make the next decision? He said that, Jim, that 384 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: he said Jim. Jim said that Chris Ballard will be 385 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: back next year, but who's going to make the head 386 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: coaching higher. Usually that's a GM thing. But he also 387 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: said Frank was safe six days ago, or at least 388 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: multiple national reports said Frank Renk is safe last Monday. 389 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: So we asked that at the very end of the 390 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: press conference, why should anything you say right now, Jim 391 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: be taken into account because that was true and it 392 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: did not go well. He quoted his record, but the 393 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: problem is the record with Peyton Manning is not coming 394 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: through the door, and your luck's not coming through the door, 395 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: and this team is going one direction. It's not up exactly. 396 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: Really appreciate your time here. We know you're super busy, 397 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: so um, good luck with everything else. I feel like 398 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: this is just the beginning of what's gonna be a 399 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: wild ride through the end of the season and beyond. 400 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: So you're well eclipped equipped to handle it. So we'll 401 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: probably check in with you again, but we'll give you 402 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break. I know you you 403 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: need it, you deserve it, a wild ride back into 404 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: the upper quartile. Yes, thanks for having me. Thank you Zach, 405 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: and I want to just add one more thing that, um, 406 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: if you are unaware because you just talked about the 407 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: end of Sunday Night Show, that we have a lot 408 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: of new listeners, that Zach wrote an amazing piece on 409 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: Chris Westling that you could get on The Athletic if 410 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: you're a subscriber. Now, I do want to just point 411 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: out the math that Stay was using in terms of 412 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: the quartile and where where I think he was going 413 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: with it now. He said, look where the fourth winning 414 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: is franchise in the league since two thousand, okay, four 415 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: out of thirty two thirty two teams fourth place. That 416 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: means we're in the upper quartile of winners. Now the 417 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: quartile here would be how many teams here, dan uh 418 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: quartiles eight, it would be a So that's a true statement. 419 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: They are in this bait, he said, they're film asked 420 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: me any more questions. By the way, that I'm stopping 421 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: out at one. Okay, then by the way they found 422 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: out they fact checked there not the fourth winning, but 423 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: we'll put that aside. We'll put that aside. So they 424 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: are in the upper quartile winners, and they he is saying, 425 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: in the top quartile of that upper quart al now 426 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: the top quartile of quartile, that would be too that 427 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: would be too right, So that would also not be correct. 428 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: He could have just said we're in the top portion 429 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: of that upper quartile, and I think that's where he 430 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: was going. They cut the half. He could have just 431 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: said we're in the top eighth of the league. Maybe 432 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: that sounds quartile is kind of ad You got to 433 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: give that well and to use it three times if 434 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: he didn't need to do that. But like, maybe that's 435 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: why they hung that that infamous banner back then. Because 436 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: in world like we are winning extremely important things. I 437 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: think they should make a new banner like top upper 438 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: quartile of the top quartesyle. That's good. Uh, get to 439 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: work on the photo shop on that one. And before 440 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: we take a break, I just want to ask you guys, 441 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: like I had to let Zeck go because he was 442 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: obviously he's getting worked hard by that team right now, 443 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: But who wants that job? Like, let's say it turns 444 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: out Jeff Saturday is eight and done. Who wants that job? 445 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Who wants a job when the owner clearly is turning 446 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: into his father and he got his fingers all over 447 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: the operation and you know, the GM is just gonna 448 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: do whatever you can do to stay alive, and he 449 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: probably has no power either. It's like that's a tough 450 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: gig to walk into when you're trying to advertise like 451 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: your own company as a great employer or yourself as 452 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: a great boss, and like you do what he's done 453 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: over the last week, you're telling, like common NFL fans, 454 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: that place sounds extremely toxic and totally bizarre. And I 455 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and do I want to step into that drama and 456 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: be the next person yanked around by whatever's happening. There's 457 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: only a few WHOA, there's only a few coaches that 458 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: that have options every year. So I'll give you the 459 00:21:53,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: boring names that everyone everyone wants. But McDaniel's big winner 460 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: in this, and he can look back and say, see, 461 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: I was right. It's a good thing. In fact, it's 462 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: it's funny that that Jeff Saturday a couple of weeks ago, 463 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: as an analyst, tweeted out like the Raiders stink basically, 464 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: and so now now you have to go, We'll go 465 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: find out how how much the Raiders stink with the 466 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: situation they're facing. And all seriousness too though, like that 467 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: just tells you that this was not on Jeff Saturday's radar, 468 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: not phe like, what do you think I'm gonna be 469 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: a head coach in in thirty days? It's a bizarre story. 470 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: But remember before we go to break, guys that it's 471 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: not that complicated. It's not We don't build rockets to 472 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: go to Mars. We're not nuclear scientists. That is none 473 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: of our jobs here. It's a very simple jobs that 474 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: we do here. We cultivate winning cultures, we cultivate toughness. 475 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: We live by our integrity about the people that we are, 476 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: and we don't ex act anything more than we expect 477 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: from ourselves. I feel motivated, I feel power. Yeah, that's 478 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: the spaceship driving into the night to the sun. All right, 479 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: let's take a break before we get to one of 480 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: our favorite long running segments teaser. We'll be right back. 481 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back joining us now. So we had Zach Kiefer, 482 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: and now we have another friend of the show, NFL 483 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: Network Zone host and reporter Bridget Condon. Welcome back, Thanks 484 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: for having me. This music is incredible. Runway there you go. 485 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: That's why I like. I like what we call behind 486 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: the glasses known as sausage fingers because it gives you 487 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: an idea of the person's personality because they always say 488 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: what they think it sounds like like Kyle Brand as 489 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: an example, said this sounds like silk stockings on skinn 490 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: of Max back in a lot about cal Bran and Bridget, 491 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: you said, this is you on the runway? Yeah, like 492 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: slow motion walking down. Yeah. Set in the mood for 493 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Sunday night? Is this a new Sunday Night football? So 494 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you've been waiting all day for the Maybe I kind 495 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: of like, how are you welcome? I'm great, it's Tuesday. 496 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, as good as you can be. You just 497 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: celebrated a birthday. I know I thought that get the 498 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: invite to the party. But that's cool. Well, I figured 499 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: the reason why I'm allowed on the show now is 500 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: because I'm twenty one. Finally, that's good. That's good. I 501 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: think having Bridge on the show is is to show 502 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: how much we like you. Um, you're coming on right now. 503 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little t NF later. Uh, but 504 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about right now? Hit it? Great? Digger, Yes, oh, Dave, 505 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: Damna chick on the box. There a long time segment. Bridget, 506 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: If you just turned twenty one. That means the segment 507 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: started when you were about thirteen or so. It was 508 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: early teen years I remember it. Yes, yes, pretty pivotal 509 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: in my teenage. Yeah, it was formative. I'm sure. Uh 510 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: stick a forking hum. We are at the time of 511 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: year now where it's time to figure out which teams 512 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: we don't need to take seriously anymore. In fact, I 513 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: would say on some level, Mark, this is your favorite 514 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: segment um as a podcast person, right because whenever you 515 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: could just throw teams into the sun, that makes life better. Well, 516 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean we have different We approach these teams differently, 517 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Greg and I certainly do. And when I see a 518 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: team sitting out there at two and seven and we're 519 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: getting deep into November by yeah, my mind is starting 520 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: to lose, um a grip on why I should spend 521 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: a second thinking about you? Right, you're thinking, like, that's 522 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: not going to make my game pass rotation. The problem 523 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: is they play other good team and then now is 524 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: the QB and decks on his play every Not only that, 525 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: when they bring in like the fourth string quarterback in 526 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: week sixteen, the teams are like almost trying to lose. 527 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: You gotta watch those guys I have learned that will 528 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: be my personal Vietnam bridget this. This second, by the way, 529 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: hasn't existed. I don't think for three or four years 530 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: that just fement and then so it goes away from 531 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, I think there was a time where 532 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: we had maybe some props, but the budget has been cut. 533 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: But what we're gonna be here? I know since you 534 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: were a team when this was launched, U, each of 535 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: us will take turns nominating a team, and what a 536 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: stick of fork and it means they have no chance 537 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. And then you could say, and 538 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: certainly a person like a Greg for instance, we'll say, well, 539 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: anybody you know that they win all their games, they 540 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: can make the most. We've gotten it wrong. We've gotten 541 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: not always, not usually. But this takes takes a little 542 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: bit of intestinal fortitude to kind of put yourself out 543 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: on a limb and be sure of a team that 544 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: is cooked. So before we get into nominating teams, that 545 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: has to be an animous. We all have to vote 546 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: a team forked. Okay, I want to throw three out 547 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: just to get get warmed up, get some blood on 548 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: our hands quickly, essay style, and you guys can let 549 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: me know if there's pushback here, but can we safely fork, 550 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: for instance, the Carolina Panthers, that that was your team 551 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: that you covered. My hesitation here is because the fan 552 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: base already hates me, and I hate me even more. 553 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna fork them absolutely. I mean, if you 554 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: have p J Walker starting, and let me remind you 555 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: he had a zero passer rating in the first half 556 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: against the Yeah, it's not me and it's factual. Yeah, 557 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: he's starting over bigger Mayfield, which there is some I 558 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have delved into his contract, 559 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: there is something there to be said. They get if 560 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: he plays less than or they get a sorry fourth 561 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: rounder if he plays more than snaps fifth rounder. If 562 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: he plays, Yeah, they're cooking the books a little here 563 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: on the bench. That's why Donald's off the I R 564 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: I I would say I wrote in the Power Ran 565 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: because I feel like this is p J Walker's final start, 566 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: regardless of outcome. They'll probably if Donald's healthy, just run 567 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: him out there and hope that takes them home, especially 568 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: if you're saying it it's advantageous for their future not 569 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: to play. Make I'm comfortable forking the Panthers although it 570 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: would be the quickest you know, possible regret that we've 571 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: ever had doing this, because if when they play Thursday night, 572 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: let's say they beat the Falcons Thursday night and then 573 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: the Bucks lose in Germany, which is very falling into 574 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: your trap. I'm just saying they would only be one 575 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: game out of first, but I do feel comfortable that 576 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: they will not win enough to pass Atlanta or Tampa. 577 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Over the course. It's interesting to how much a difference 578 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: a week makes, as they say, because like a week ago, 579 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: I was like, this team is frisky, walkers looking intriguing, 580 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: the offense has awoken, like were there much better post 581 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Matt rule? And then the Bengals game happened and I 582 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: was like, you're out of here. Yeah, you're out of 583 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: my universe. I'm a big Steve Wilkes fan. I have 584 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: a lot of respect from him, and kind of he 585 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: seems like he doesn't care what anyone thinks, which I 586 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of like that. Panthers, I feel like a lot 587 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: of times have just been worried about the outside perspective. 588 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't care. He's doing it his way. I'm a 589 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: fan of him, but overall, I don't think I don't 590 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: think they do it. They always find a way to 591 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: get your hopes up really high and then take your 592 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: right back. They need that high pick. Yeah, they need 593 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: that first round. I would be on the fence given 594 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: the division they play in, had not I started p 595 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: J Walker over Davis mills Uh in Fantasy this week 596 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: and the person So for that reason alone, I also 597 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: vote there for can we quickly fork the Houston Texans 598 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: the one win Texans? We don't really need to delve 599 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: deep here, and he pushed back on that one. The 600 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: Texans are cooked? Can we fork the Cults? Can we? 601 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I know they have three wins? I have one concern 602 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: about this Cults thing is that, um, they're trying so 603 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: hard for this to spend out. And we've covered it 604 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: in our previous segment, but what if like the greatest 605 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: sports thing ever happens of all time and Jeff Saturday 606 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: guides them to like a six and two mark or 607 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: something and they eke out like a wild card. Well, 608 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: we don't get the guillotine if that happens. I'm just saying, 609 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: like I kind of have a feeling that everything when 610 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: the whole universe is saying, oh, this is gonna go 611 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: so negatively. I don't know. Well, we do make a 612 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: generous donation, but I will fork them to a charity 613 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: if we get that, like that is in honor of 614 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: that city. If we get it, that is true, Greg specifically, 615 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: it depends whoever you know nominates the team. That's but 616 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to force you into it either. Mark, 617 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: if you really think that something some funny business can happen, 618 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: but just know it might come back on you if 619 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: they get worse. I don't have a big problem forking 620 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: the Cults for the same reason as the Panthers. The 621 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: game that I just watched, I was thinking, Okay, maybe 622 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't make an argument for the Cults because their 623 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: division is so lousy. But they've almost played all of 624 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: their division games already and they weren't good in that 625 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: those and they still the Eagles. They still have a 626 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: game at Cowboys, at Vikings, at Giants. That's a lot. 627 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: Are you buying my scenario that maybe something magical happen. No, 628 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: Like I I don't want to speak because I don't 629 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: want to get them upset with me. But I could 630 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: side with you just in a sense that it would 631 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: just be a crazy situation, right, Jeff Saturday, he's gonna 632 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: go in there and rob rob this locker room. How 633 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: long does that last? Room? Right? Fairly, I don't know. 634 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Maybe after they hire the thirty year old today to 635 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: call the plays. I want to water back my decision here. 636 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I would love for it to happen, if only because 637 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: we do these Monday Night football recaps, and I happened 638 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: to look at the schedule the rest of the way, 639 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: and Joe and Troy are gonna be wondering what happened 640 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: to great late season games. The Monday night football schedule 641 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the year is rough. It includes two 642 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: cults games, including a cult Steelers game in week twelve, 643 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: in a cult Chargers game at least the Charges. Maybe 644 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I'll be in the mix in six team makes sense 645 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: because there's so many of your personal apocalypse unquote safe 646 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: teams this year that are having a really bad season. 647 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm guessing they're showing up repeatedly. All right, let's let's 648 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: now nominate them too. So we got three already forked 649 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: get using bridges terrible. Okay, I'm like, where's this coming? Um? Okay, 650 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: I am going to fork the Packers. I know this 651 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: is contin you're going to nominate the nice having you 652 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: on Bridget Do I tell you it's just me because 653 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: I haven't lived this much. So do I tell you 654 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: why I'm nominating them? Yeah, you're pitching them? Okay, all right, 655 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: I am pitching the Packers three and six. I know 656 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: it's controversial. Aaron Rodgers an incredible quarterback. Never bet against him. 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm betting against him. They lost to the Lions. They 658 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: lost to the Lions, And not only did they lose 659 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: to the Lions, nine different players got hurt during that game. 660 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: They just lost for Shawn Gary for the season. Eric Stokes, 661 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what the latest on him, but questionable. 662 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: Uh Romeo Dabbs with the ankle sprain. Aaron Jones. Of 663 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: course he's practicing this week. But when Aaron Jones goes down, 664 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: your threat, your biggest threat on offense, I don't know 665 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: what else you got. Mike McCarthy, he got choked up 666 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: yesterday talking about going back to Green Bay. I think 667 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to destroy them this weekend. From 668 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: not only okay, so their next three games Cowboys, Titans, Eagles, 669 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: it's just they could potentially be three and nine. I 670 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: um got flamed on our Thursday preview show for suggesting 671 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: that the Packers might only win seven games. Why didn't 672 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: you tell me that before the show? Well, I'm with you. 673 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm siding with you now because you almost locked them 674 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: up against the lines zero. Do you being flamed? Yeah? 675 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Greg was like snickering, like his own little research. Actually, 676 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I think a little bit. Statement was just surprised because 677 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: bridgets here, I have to slide over a little bit 678 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: closer to you, guys that I could feel the heat 679 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: between you right now. I love what Bridget did because 680 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: it is bold, and my initial instinct is to push 681 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: back because it's Aaron Rodgers and way watch these games. 682 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that far away. He to me, 683 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: he's like Tom Brady where if I had to rank him, 684 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: And this is about where they are in the pf'd 685 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: say they're in the top twelve quarterbacks of the year. 686 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: Like they're around twelve each of them. They're not getting 687 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: killed because of their quarterback play. And there's a lot 688 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: of good players on their team, and they have a 689 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: history obviously under Matt Lafleur. And so if there's a 690 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: team that's gonna rally from three and six they would 691 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: be it, but you are getting ahead of it with 692 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: them playing the Cowboys, the Titans, and the Eagles in 693 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: the next three weeks. Nothing that they've done this season 694 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: indicates that they can go to and one in those games. 695 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: And if they don't go to and one in those games, 696 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: your games behind the Vikings right not gonna win the division. 697 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: The division is basically gone. In the NFC, third wild 698 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: card might be a little sketchy where you only need 699 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: nine wins, so it's not crazy, but I I just 700 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen believe well, that's that's an issue that we 701 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: have to deal with here. But the Cowboys Titens, Eagles 702 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: at Bears. Let's say best case scenario there four, they 703 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: go to and two, so they're five and eight, and 704 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: then they get home Rams at Dolphin's home, Viking. I'm gonna, 705 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna Dolphins. I'm gonna for them. I'm 706 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: gonna for I feel I feel like they're done. They 707 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: do they stink? Are they just really unlucky? They seem 708 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: very mediocre and they just find ways to lose. Close 709 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: to tell me about tell me that loss was unlucky 710 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: against Detroit. I think it was a little unlucky hundred yards. 711 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: I know, but Greg, look at what every other team 712 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: is done to Detroit's defense, and I I kind of 713 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: it's hard to adjust to what's happening in Green Bay. 714 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: It's hard to adjust to what's happening. The fact that 715 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is not playing very well. It's environmental. It's 716 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: not just that he's lost all his skill, but seems 717 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: slightly desisted, disinterested, super miffed. There's bad juju on that team, 718 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: and their schedule is brutal. Like you mentioned, I'm with you. 719 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: I I will fork the Packers. I feel like an 720 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: NFC team though, will be the team that makes us 721 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: sweat and probably those charities excited because that seven spot 722 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: in the NFC might only require eight or nine wins 723 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: and one of these teams. The last time we did this, 724 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: there was one less playoff team that got in. So 725 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: there is a bigger window for teams to find a way. 726 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: The Raiders last year like in a in like we 727 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: did a casual exercise of it. I don't even know. 728 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: All right, So now that we're all forking them, they're gone. 729 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna destroy the unanimate, all right? Uh? I 730 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: will throw to Mark Sessler for the next nomination. Alright, 731 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm forking the Raiders. Smell you later, Do I need 732 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: to explain why? Yeah, well that's our podcast. Well okay, 733 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think they're a giant mess. Uh. They 734 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: to get shut out in this league right now, which 735 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: they did against the Saints, and then they get shut 736 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: out last week in the second half against the Jaguars, 737 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: just to have games given away that way, when like 738 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: you should if you're the Raiders, when we like them 739 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. You have a seventeen nothing 740 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: lead on the Jacksonville Jaguars, another team learning how to 741 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: win with the first year head coach, their first year 742 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: head coach, and you cannot run the ball. You cannot 743 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: Derek Carr vanishes, the whole team goes into some sort 744 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: of other dimension and scores no points and Davante Adams 745 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: has zero yardage in the second half after a great 746 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: first half. You're not adjusting, the scheme is not being 747 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: picked up. I don't know if it's Derek Carr or 748 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: if it's the Raiders or a combination of both. It's 749 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: their defense. There's nothing alike. And you're in the A 750 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: s C. Which is gonna be a lot harder to 751 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: make the playoffs in And are we gonna say they're 752 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: about to go eight and two or something or eight 753 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: and one. No, I'm gonna push back on this one 754 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. I gotta I'm looking at their schedule. 755 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: They got the Colts next. You couldn't ask for a 756 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: better matchup, so you get your third win there at 757 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Not afraid of that. They also got the 758 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: st Heelers on the schedule and the Rams, who are 759 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: obviously a mess, and I think they'll come up. Um. 760 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: So while I'm not huge on the Radar Raiders, I'm 761 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: right now I'm not gonna officially cast the Volks. I 762 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: want to see where everybody else is. But I look 763 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: at their schedule like I still see a path to 764 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: them being in the playoff race at the end of 765 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: the same they're uh writers for instance for the Athletic 766 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: and a lot of people covering the team felt like 767 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: that was there into their season. I feel like pushing 768 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: back to because they've played one less game, they only 769 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: have six losses. Uh, they they need to get wins, 770 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: but they have you know, they had their bye week already. 771 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna and they did it last year. That's what's 772 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: creeping me out a little bit about them, because like 773 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: they were a veteran team last year that we would 774 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: have never expected put that in and they got a 775 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: really lucky and all that luck has gone against them 776 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: this year. They are owing five now and one score games. 777 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: They've been in all these games. Could they get a 778 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: little luckier? I'm gonna I'm not gonna force. Ciliana looked 779 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: at me like I was crazy, but I said, you know, 780 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: to to blow three seventeen point leads in the league 781 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: and set records, you have to have a seventeen point 782 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: lead first. So there is there's still the bones of 783 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: a team that could go on a run here. I 784 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,479 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen, But I also don't feel 785 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: strong enough to absolutely remember Forkham. Is no chance mentioned 786 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: that this last year and this magical last year that 787 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: you're referring to and trying to say it's the same thing. 788 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: They were five and two there, two and six, and 789 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: they closed their season against the Niners and Chiefs. Yeah, 790 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: but are the Chiefs even playing for something there? You know, 791 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: there's there are different things in and play even I 792 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna how about you, Well, it sounds 793 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: like it's something I'm kind of torn because when your 794 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: quarterback goes in and s there's a lot that I 795 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: want to say, you know, if I'm honest, I don't 796 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: want to say it here. Obviously there's tons of friction, 797 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: and when the person leading your team is speaking like that, 798 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it ends well for any team. I 799 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't know if I want to 800 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: fork Hm though, because like you said that, the a 801 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: f C West is so bizarre to me right now 802 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: that the Raiders could have won that game Week one 803 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. I still think there's a weird thing 804 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: between the Chargers and the Raiders. I still think Raiders 805 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: could potentially win their second matchup, and yeah, they could 806 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: beat the Colts, they could beat the Broncos. I don't 807 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: know what's going on with the Seahawks. They're way better 808 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: than we all thought, but I don't know. I think 809 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: at some point the pieces have to click for this team. 810 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: I think maybe just because I had so much hope 811 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: for them going into this season, it's really hard for 812 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: me to steer away from them. Davante Adams, Derek car 813 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: we have to see something between them. I think at 814 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: some point, I don't know, maybe you're gonna have to 815 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: keep watching the Raiders. Mark. I'm sorry. I mean I 816 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed the vibrant discussion around that, so good, thank you good. 817 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 1: How about you? Greg nominated a team? I feel bad 818 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: because the Jaguars not being a part of the season 819 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: I think is an under the radar, sad storyline because 820 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: I just thought they were going to be in the mix. 821 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: I understand. I just thought they were going to be 822 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: part of this thing, that the a f C South 823 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: was going to be so bad that they would be 824 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: in the mix and be Trevor Lawrence and just be like, oh, 825 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: this is nice to have the Jaguars back. It's been 826 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: a while, and they're coming off of a win, and 827 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: they are another team that's been in a lot of 828 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: one score games like the Raiders, and and lost most 829 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: of them, almost all of them until last week against 830 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: the Raiders. But I look at their schedule and I 831 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: just don't see a path. It's rough. They're at Kansas 832 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: City and they have the Ravens after there by, and 833 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: that right there looks like three and eight. They also 834 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: have the Titans and the Cowboys, they're they're at the Jets, 835 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: they have the Titans twice, and there's just been nothing 836 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: about this team to me that is special. I think 837 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: they're kind of a mediocre team that's been on the 838 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: wrong side of variants and they're not that far from 839 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: being a five and four team. But it doesn't matter 840 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: that they can't get those wins back, and I don't 841 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: think they're gonna rally enough with that schedule. They could 842 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: lose all their games. I'm looking at their schedule now. 843 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they beat the Texans. They've been in 844 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: the middle. They're like a team where I've been so 845 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: wrong every game. I think I've picked wrong when it 846 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: comes to the Jaguars every game. They lost to the 847 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: Texans already, so you're right, anything could happen there. Travis 848 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: Anatianna is really um he's really stepped up the last 849 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, so that gives them another kind of 850 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 1: a real dynamic talent there. And ever, Lawrence did play 851 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: well last week, so it's like, you know, like they 852 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: have been in close games. I don't I don't know 853 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: about this one. The fact that they're playing the Chiefs 854 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: in the Ravens next there what really scared me off 855 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: more than anything. And and at some level it's giving 856 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: from faith to grave Diggers Titans, and maybe I shouldn't. 857 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: You know, if the if the Titans come way back 858 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: to the pack, then the Jaguars can can be in 859 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: the division mix. But I would for them. I'll do 860 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: it as well, because what you said, they had their 861 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: chance to be in decent position uh to absorb these 862 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: next two losses most likely, but they kicked away that 863 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: opportunity and it's going to be too late. Bridget. They 864 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: are flying here, the fork is out and it is sharp. 865 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: I will nominate We're like a er mode right now. 866 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: We're going to definitely pay for this. I will nominate 867 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champions Um controversial. It's it's one 868 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: of those things. It's kind of like you were saying 869 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: with the Packers, Mark, let's not forget that they kind 870 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: of stink um. And it's not the defense's fault, as 871 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey will point out. But the defense hasn't been 872 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: great shakes either. I mean they've they've struggled to get 873 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, they've struggled to cover um. They have 874 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: been vulnerable on that side. Of the ball on the 875 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: offense is a total mess. Uh. You know, would it 876 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: would it stun you if you learned that Matthew Stafford's 877 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: elbow really was a thing all season? I wouldn't have 878 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: stun me. The running game obviously is bad enough that 879 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: cam Akers is re entering the mix. You you know 880 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: that the Rams did everything and trying. They were trying 881 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: please take our first round picks, and they couldn't pull 882 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: off the trades that they felt they needed to save 883 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: the season. So now they're just moving forward with what 884 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: feels like a broken team. So with the schedule, they 885 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: are three and five with the home against the Cardinals, 886 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: at Saints at Chiefs home Seahawks over the next four weeks. 887 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: I just this is me going out on a limb, 888 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: but I feel like they deserve to be UH put 889 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: on the board for discussion thoughts. I think whoever loses 890 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: Sunday between the Rams and Cardinals season is over. I 891 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: think that is a test class. It's a classic fork off. 892 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: I love that because both of these teams are kind 893 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: of in similar positions where their seasons could end right now. 894 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: And I think the Rams, again, like I said a 895 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: little bit ago, with UH, I forget who we're talking about. 896 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: When Jalen Ramsey says it's not our fault. Our offense 897 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't come over and tell us we're gonna need you 898 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: again with a minute and a half or whatever. They 899 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: mismanaging the clock. I think there's so much tension, and 900 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: I really believe that that interferes with what's going on. 901 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: You can't get people on the same page. And with 902 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: so many injuries to their offensive line, I just don't 903 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: see them making a comeback. That's for me. It's the 904 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: it's I think they have unfixable problems. They're not alone. 905 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: There are other teams, especially in the NFC, that have 906 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: some unfixable problems. But the line has been such a 907 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: poisonous scenario and it's uncorked everything they've tried to do. 908 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: They've scored under fourteen fourteen points are under and four 909 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: of their last five games that came against good defenses. 910 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: But the Rams, we knew it didn't matter what defense 911 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: you played, you found your way out of it. And 912 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: they had their bye week. Everyone was selling them as 913 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: like Sean McVeigh and everyone's gonna go huddle up during 914 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: the bye week figure all this out, and they came 915 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: out and laid a massive egg against the Niners and 916 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: then lost a terrible, winnable game against the Bucks by 917 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: It's sad. You know, my daughter makes this Rams shrine 918 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: every Sunday. She's gotta get she's gotta get her act together. Paraphernalia, 919 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: what do you mean working? It worked last year and 920 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: so she's sticking with it. It's just it. They don't 921 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: pass the eye test, like more than the pack The 922 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: Packers seem to me like they're not that bad, but 923 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: they just make mistakes. The Rams are just not a 924 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: good team. Their twenties seven in d v O A uh, 925 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: they're one of the worst offenses in the league. At 926 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: no point this season have they looked like anything but 927 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: one of the worst offenses in the league. They're only 928 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: one game back, and I tend to think they'll win 929 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: this week if I had to pick it, and so 930 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: that they'd be four and five in a muddied NFC, 931 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: and they got the coaching staff. I have a hard 932 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: time forking them, even though I have no real faith 933 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: in them at all. So I'm all right, I hear it, 934 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: So you don't want to do it, so let me 935 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: quickly pivot. Then if we're talking about a fork off 936 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday, I am all in on forking the Arizona Cardinals, 937 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: and ahead of time, anybody that listens to the show 938 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: knows that I am not a fan of this entire 939 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: regime and the way things are structured every week is 940 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: a comedy of errors. How about the Cardinals. Do we 941 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: need to wait to see them lose to the Rams? Bridge? 942 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: We we did put you in a tough spot here, Bridget. 943 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: Not only do you have to come on, I mean, 944 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: how like we're basically just asking you to be the 945 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: most negative possible in the most negative show of the season. 946 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: Sunday decides it. Do you want the Cardinals gone? Now? 947 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: You you? You don't need to see anymore from the Cardinals. 948 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: They can win Sunday. I could live with the Rams. 949 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: I can't live in a world where we still take 950 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: the Cardinals series. I'm with Dan that even if they 951 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: win that game, that's a winnable game for the Cardinals. 952 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: I believe what's going on offensively there is so rotten 953 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: to the core, and they have a great quarterback. But 954 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: we've seen what their offense is and there's nothing exceptional 955 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: about their team or their defense. It's gonna make up 956 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: for it, whether it's a coach, the defense, and nothing's 957 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: getting it. We don't give them. I'm watching this show. 958 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: This is gonna be intriguing. Look, but they like to 959 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: your point, they've got two games left against the forty niners. 960 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: Let's say they probably lose both of those. Your three 961 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: and eight, all right, give him the hard knocks theme. 962 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't know everybody was plugging it out. I'm surprised, 963 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: Like I get why, Like during the season it's a 964 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: it's a heavy lift, but like you don't want to 965 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: see what's going on behind the scenes with this team 966 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: on a little bit good. I want to are they 967 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: going to show us Kylie watching film? Like I think 968 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: that's all who you want to watch? With the little 969 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: clock on the side. Did Buddha Baker yelling at everybody 970 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: that he's tired of losing two to three weeks. He's 971 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: one of their best players. Their schedule at a point, 972 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: that's how you get tired of losing not be available. Well, 973 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: yeah that happened afterwards. Unfortunately, their schedule is one point 974 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: in their favor because there they have so many division 975 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: games in at least that's in their control. That the 976 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: best team they play record wise the rest of the 977 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: entire season are the New England Patriots and the Chargers. 978 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: So there's two games against the forty niners. You're not sure, 979 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: but that there are four and four team you want. 980 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's an easy as schedules go. It's manageable. 981 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: But I I'm with Dan, I've just seen enough that 982 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't to take them seriously. This is like a 983 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: team I wanted to be fun like last year. I 984 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: liked them a lot, and like this is sort of 985 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: your your You guys were depressed about one of these teams, 986 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: barely watched them live because Mark claims the Cardinals every week, 987 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: I'll do it, I'll do it. I like to be 988 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: daring with this because it's like, what's so bad if 989 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: we lose? We have to get to charity. I don't 990 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: even know if we did. Last time was a bunch 991 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: of talk, but like that's terrible. It was, yeah we did. No, 992 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: that's not that. For first of all, if you're listening 993 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: to this, that is an absolute narrative and absolutely incorrect. 994 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: Well they are listening to this. Otherwise, what are you 995 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: saying you went from not knowing what happened because I 996 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: was sure that we didn't donate. We certainly it was 997 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: not a team right like Matt like was pushing her 998 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: like championing like was the Los Angeles Food Bank? As 999 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: I recall, I don't know what to say. So just 1000 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: send your invoice to Mark Sessler. All right, listen to 1001 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: Johnny Bananas Hawthorne drive Johnny, you listener, you try to 1002 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: think in your mind if you think Greg is donated 1003 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: to anything, just yourself that question. All right, that's rue. 1004 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean I donate, You donate to a lot. That's 1005 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: it's very hot. It's very because because you're bringing it. 1006 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean you, I donate to a lot of stuff, 1007 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: so that you shouldn't tell people that well when you're 1008 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: when you're confronted on it. So come down, Britta, do 1009 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: you have any of the team you don't have to mind? 1010 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: Was the Texans. So we took care of the texts. 1011 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: We took care of the Texans easily. Anybody else the 1012 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: guys want to throw out there. The Cardinals were on 1013 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: my mind, but yeah, we gotta do the Steelers. I 1014 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: think you could. I think you could have put them 1015 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: in the early window. They have some berserker energy, potentially 1016 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: because of Mike Tomlin berserker energy. But the fact that 1017 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: they're in the a f C and we keep eliminating 1018 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: these a f C teams, we we this would already 1019 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: be what five gone, which is how we've gotten into 1020 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: trouble in the past. But I we are very certain 1021 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: who's going to the postseason on November eight. I don't 1022 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: see a path to ten wins, and I'm with Mark. 1023 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what it's going to take in the 1024 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: a f C. How about the Lions, I can't fork them. 1025 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm not forking after aund around the end the song 1026 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. What about the Broncos? Can we fork them? Oh? 1027 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: I happily would. I kind of would knees on the 1028 00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: plane I was ready for. I happily would market. Yes, 1029 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: let's see, let's see. Let's see they have at Titans Wolf, 1030 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if Tannehill is playing us. Okay, then 1031 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: they got Home Raiders, winnable at Panthers, very winnable at Ravens, 1032 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: tough Ee Chiefs, tough e cards at I mean, I 1033 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: feel like they can get back to that's a little concerning. 1034 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't do it. I'm not gonna 1035 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: do it. At some point, did we forked the Steelers there? 1036 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: I was fine. I'm just saying, yeah, if we forked 1037 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers and we've in the a f C for 1038 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: the Steelers, Texans, Jaguars, and Colts, that's not that many 1039 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: for four fields. Fair Like, the Steelers are gonna part 1040 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 1: ways with their offensive coordinator in about two or three weeks, 1041 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: and the floor is gonna fall out even further from there. 1042 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: A lot of changes are coming and they're not making 1043 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think the a f C NFC dynamic 1044 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: is real. If you look at the a f C 1045 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: standings right now. For instance, the Colts are tenth place 1046 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: and they're but they're two and a half game is 1047 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: back of the playoff spot, which would be the Chargers 1048 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: right now, and the Dolphins are at six and three, 1049 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: Whereas in the NFC, like two and a half games 1050 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: gets you all the way back to basically the end 1051 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: of the entire conference. Carolina is within two and a 1052 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: half games of the seven spots. So to me, it's 1053 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: too far for the Steelers to catch up. I'm out 1054 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: on the Steelers, okay, yeah, alright, so they're done? Uh Broncos, Yeah, 1055 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm not. It was not right of me to suggest 1056 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: that you don't donate to things. I know that you do, 1057 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: and you're you're a caring person. So I like it 1058 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: when we find out how Mark really feels during the show, 1059 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: how I really feel on this episode. I just feel 1060 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get off here and donate right to 1061 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: all Right, anybody else want to throw a team out there? 1062 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're not missing anybody. The Commanders. 1063 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,439 Speaker 1: I'm not with Taylor Heide. I don't see another team 1064 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: right now. What about the Saints? Well, right now, the Saints, 1065 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: as you could check it out on the Monday Night 1066 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,720 Speaker 1: recap with Jordan Rodrigue and Rose withal they know showed 1067 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: on Monday Night. Um, I know the Ravens are a 1068 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: great team, but that was disheartening to say the least, 1069 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: and it makes you think that, uh, even though we 1070 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: were gassing them up a little bit last week and 1071 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: the idea that maybe there's something there, now I'm less confident. 1072 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: I feel like this might be I feel like their 1073 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: only chance now. And this is crazy because I'm not 1074 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,439 Speaker 1: a huge fan of this quarterback. But get Jami's back 1075 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: in there and see if it could juice them up. 1076 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't like they're not going to at least this 1077 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: next week. I tend to agree it might be time 1078 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: to switch back. The autnoissance is happening. I don't think 1079 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 1: it The quarterback position is particularly relevant to their team 1080 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: because to me, I mean, I don't think either one 1081 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: is going to save them, and I don't think either 1082 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: one is their main problem. They have so many problems, 1083 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: and yet I'm not gonna fork them in this division. 1084 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,720 Speaker 1: I am not convinced the Bucks are gonna get it together, 1085 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: and I still think the Saints and Bucks are the 1086 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: two most likely teams to win this division. They do 1087 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: have a little more. They have a they have a 1088 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,879 Speaker 1: week fifteen tussle with the Feltons. I'm not I don't. 1089 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm not on board necessarily the Saints, but I don't 1090 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: want to work them. I think I think that, and 1091 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: I think their fans have given up. Like I I 1092 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise, That doesn't matter, doesn't. I mean, like 1093 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: if they have the Steelers and the Rams, they could 1094 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 1: be five and six. Yeah, their schedule is favorable. I mean, 1095 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: they're not a good team, but like we're talking about 1096 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: this the worst division we've ever seen one of these 1097 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: teams that we've talked about today, whether we forked them 1098 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: or not, will be awesome in the second half. That's 1099 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: just I mean, no, I mean it's there's no question 1100 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: that that the numbers say more than one will be awesome. 1101 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: Of all the teams we've at least discussed, not necessarily 1102 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: that we forked like. That's how the NFL goes that 1103 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: one or two of these teams will catch absolute fire, 1104 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: even if it's hard to see. Just for my book 1105 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: keeping here, before we close, the saga moved to TNF 1106 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: Did we where did we come down on the Raiders? 1107 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: We did not fork because I meant okay, okay, so 1108 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: all right, all right. Well then with that said, as 1109 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: per tradition, fire up the funeral Dirge and I will 1110 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: now announce the teams whose seasons are over. Start of 1111 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: the fan bases, and please keep listening to this podcast. Right, 1112 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: we don't know anything. We should just do it like 1113 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: disguised voices, so nobody knows which one of us are 1114 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: working how the Green Bay Packers, the Airs on a Car, 1115 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: the juckson Ville Jackuars, the Peetsburgh's Tellers, the Indianapolis Huston 1116 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: Texans and the Carolina Panthers. So that's one tool tree 1117 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: are five six, seven teams are a lot of teams, right, 1118 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: that's almost a quartile of that's almost a cartile. They're 1119 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 1: all doomed, you see. I feel like we're going to regret. 1120 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 1: I think I think we went too hard. Well, this 1121 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: is why I I you're you've been effective at like 1122 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 1: shaming me into always like, well, the numbers say someone's 1123 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna come back, but I just do it for the show. 1124 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: We are you most worried about it? The teams we 1125 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: just packers. SAME's. I mean, they do have the guy 1126 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: who won the end in that game, but here's what 1127 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 1: we did he did. Here's the thing about that game. 1128 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,720 Speaker 1: Because you said you thought they've been unlucky. I thought 1129 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: that game was there, the yards were there, the points 1130 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: were there, and Rogers just no showed on like four 1131 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: or five big throws in that game. Is that unlucky 1132 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: or is that him getting older? Is it just like 1133 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: a bad day at the office. I had the final 1134 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: fourth throws. I think also like it's the opposite of 1135 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: what's happening like with two of where he may not 1136 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: be the most accurate pastor on the planet deep. But 1137 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: like your receivers Tyreek Hill or making making, you're making 1138 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: up for it. Like Aaron Rodgers not have that those 1139 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: people around him. And that was another huge play. I 1140 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: thought Rodgers put it right on him. He almost had 1141 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: it and got overturned on review. That stuff happens a 1142 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: lot with it. That's why we've forked him, right. I 1143 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: just think they have too many injuries. Point more, thank you, 1144 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: Zach injuries. Yes, as Bridget says, all right, do we 1145 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: take a break and hit TNF. Let's take a break. 1146 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: We feeling good about the seven. Yeah, we can't change it, 1147 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,479 Speaker 1: but we can't change up the voices and we can't 1148 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: start pointing fingers. That's what would happen in the Packers 1149 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: locker room. We need to stick together. As for Bridget, 1150 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: this is a blood oath and because you came on 1151 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: this particular show, you are responsible and we will take 1152 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: equal play. Once old man McFadden comes on and says 1153 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: your team's name, it's Oliver for you, we'll be right 1154 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: back with a t n F P Alright, here we go, 1155 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: we're back. It's time to hit the first game, Greg, 1156 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: can you believe it? Week ten? Whoa hey, now, uh 1157 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: go so fast. It just goes so fast. It goes fast, 1158 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: It goes fast. Bridget and we have we have a 1159 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: nice matchup here between the Atlanta. It was like my word, 1160 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: my pearls clutch. Al right, here we go Falcons at Panthers. 1161 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: As you said, you have covered the Panthers, you like 1162 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: individuals connected to the team. And yet, and yet this 1163 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: same team gave up forty two consecutive points in their 1164 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: most previous game, their previous game, and the Falcons, Falcons 1165 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: we talked about in another absurd Tuesday segment earlier this season. 1166 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: Kind of spicy, right, frisky. Yeah, so you got a 1167 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,439 Speaker 1: spicy Falcons team and a need to have a game 1168 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: against the Panthers team that's running out. P J Walker 1169 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: offer off the worst game of his life, I would presume, 1170 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: and a reminder. This TNF preview is presented by Prime Video, 1171 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: the new exclusive home for Thursday Night Football. Yes, and 1172 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,439 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, the coach, like I mentioned before, UM when 1173 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: asked why he wasn't benching p J Walker, he said, 1174 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: if I went off of everybody having bad games, I 1175 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: could bench everyone. I don't really know. I don't know 1176 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: if you realize what he did there when he said that, 1177 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: um himself so, but they are going to have to 1178 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: staff a field, um so. I I just think that 1179 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers, like I mentioned before, the details to Baker 1180 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 1: Mayfield's contract, I think they're going to keep him out 1181 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: to try and not have to give up good In 1182 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: that game, it was a good That was his best 1183 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: game that he played as a Panther. Just such an 1184 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: unfortunate situation that when it was it was total garbage time. 1185 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: But he quickly brought points to them. The fact becomes 1186 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: the tricky thing, and you want to know what's going 1187 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes there. But like Baker after on 1188 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: that game, obviously he's he gives him a better chance 1189 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: to win. Is that what ownership in front office was? 1190 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: He alluded to a short week. I do think we 1191 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: see see Sam Donald. I'm with you Dan that this 1192 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: most likely be PG Walkers and yeah after this week, 1193 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: because they're not gonna suit up as Donald healthy. I 1194 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: know they had to take him off I r or 1195 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: the season was over. Is he even capable to be 1196 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: starting a game? I mean, we'll get well. Is he 1197 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: capable to be starting? They dominated the Falcons in that game. 1198 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: I know they ended up losing it, and we've talked 1199 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: about the PJ. Walker greatest play in the history of football, 1200 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: that broke their hearts and they couldn't recover. Now they've 1201 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: had an extra welcome to the middle of the night 1202 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: thinking about it to recover. And that was a game 1203 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: where they physically dominated Atlanta, which not many teams have done. 1204 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: They mostly stopped Atlanta's running game, not totally, but better 1205 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: than most teams. Uh. And they pushed them around when 1206 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Atlanta tried to pass, and their offense looked awesome in 1207 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: that game. P J. Walker was a little up and down, 1208 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: but guys were getting open. Like for one week, they 1209 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: really made sense, even though they ended up losing the game. 1210 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean the Falcons, if anything, I want to hang 1211 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: my hat on the offensive dv O a fourth when 1212 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: in the run we know they can do that. They're 1213 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: the twenty nine defense and the Panthers are so it's 1214 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: like that that's what happened in that other game. I mean, 1215 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: do I My thing is they so know showed last 1216 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: week um twenty one first downs in the first half 1217 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 1: to one the Bengals out first down them. I mean, 1218 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Like that's an absolute disaster and 1219 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: p J Walker, like I was excited for what he 1220 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: was doing and he completely That's also that's this season. 1221 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Weird stuff happens, and it's a division game on Thursday night, 1222 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: I could see the pants are scoring twenty eight points 1223 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: at home and winning the thing. That's a thing that 1224 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: you can never really count out Panthers at home. I 1225 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: could see them winning two. But I just have a 1226 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: lot more hype on the Falcons, and I think a 1227 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,439 Speaker 1: lot of people do. I was there at training camp 1228 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: and there's something about them that a lot talking to 1229 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: people there, they have pieces and Cordarrell Patterson, he's off 1230 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: difference last week. I think also, what is it like 1231 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: six of nine of their games have been decided by 1232 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: how many points? Four or less? So I think some 1233 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: of those losses could be wins. I think the Panthers 1234 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: have too much going wrong. And how many times have 1235 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: we covered the Panthers over the past couple of seasons 1236 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: where they are in the middle of the pack. Then 1237 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: they get this first rounder that doesn't really maybe a 1238 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: defensive guy, yeah, Brian Burns or someone that makes a 1239 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: big difference. They need the first pick in the draft. 1240 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: They need Bryce you they need a quarterback to turn 1241 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: this around, right, So they could have had justin fields 1242 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 1: if they wanted, but they chose not to. Well, maybe 1243 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: if they have the I feel like they don't do 1244 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: the sixth or the eighth or the They need the 1245 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: first pick in the draft next year, and I think 1246 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: whether you want. Of course, the coaches saying we're not 1247 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: tanking it, and I'm I don't have any inside knowledge 1248 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: that they're taking it, but I think, why not tak 1249 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: do it in a secret way? Well, that happens all 1250 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: the time, and I want to say this. I'm gonna 1251 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: say two things here. First of all, Greggy, on Sunday, 1252 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned that Mariotta was kind of driving your nuts 1253 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: a little bit with his innaccuracy. I'm pulling my hair 1254 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: out watching this game yesterday, and how many throws Mariota 1255 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: misses they win. I mean, we talk about Kyle Pitts. 1256 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Why doesn't he get used more? Kyle Pitts is open 1257 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: for the game winning touchdown, and it's a seventy three 1258 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: yard touchdown. All Mariota's to do is just put some 1259 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: air under it and let this dynamic young tight end 1260 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: catch it and run to the ends. When he'd blown 1261 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: by the secondary and he aired him aired and overshad 1262 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: by five yards. And that happened over and over in 1263 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: that game. So it's frustrating. And I understand Arthur Smith 1264 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: is not going anywhere because on balance, I think they're 1265 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: building something here, but I cannot. I just struggle to 1266 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: see them running this back with Mariota next year. So Atlanta, 1267 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I think, is gonna be another team in the market 1268 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: for a quarterback. However, I'm gonna go ahead, you know, Thursday, 1269 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Dad, he's gonna have a couple of Tito's Dad, 1270 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna be relaxing. I haven't done this yet. I 1271 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's done this yet, but I'm gonna 1272 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: go ahead and lock up the dirty birds on the 1273 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: road here. There's a fuel goal spread here, which I 1274 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: feels generous to Carolina quite frankly. And I think the 1275 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Falcons are just a better team. I mean, our record, 1276 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: as brothers are you he it's I think we're undefeated. Um, 1277 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I think we're like thirteen and two. I mean that's 1278 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: a that's essentially that you're a team in the conference 1279 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: title game with that record. I am locking it up 1280 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: as well because you just get it out of the way. 1281 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: It's just an easy home run. You get it out 1282 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: of the way. What could go wrong or it, you know, 1283 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: brings you total agony for three hours, even if they win, 1284 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: just knowing Mark and it's it's like Island game. And 1285 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: then we have to come back on Friday and I'll 1286 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I'll mention it. But I think, I'm I think this 1287 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: is a good Actually after the charity thing, you know, 1288 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: he's going to come in with that. I thought I 1289 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: came back around on that and showed my truth cleaned up. 1290 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: At most it was cleaning up. I don't know about 1291 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: true feelings. It's like a toxic waste. Do you think 1292 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: that you donate to charity because you've told me that 1293 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: you do before. I never to We've never talked about 1294 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: the person that does not share when they donate. He's like, 1295 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: I must share something with you girls club today. I 1296 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: don't mean excessively. I don't think this is any of 1297 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: this is true, you know, Bridget, this is this is 1298 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: a chance you could lock up a game on Thursday night. 1299 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty you know, just get one to know on 1300 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 1: the season and then you then your looks like official 1301 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: tabulated standings that a listener compiles, and you'd be in 1302 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: that fabulated stading and forever, and I won't be allowed 1303 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: back on until I getting locks was wrong. No, that's fine. 1304 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: That let's up the stakes. Yeah if you are if 1305 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: you lock it up successfully, return on the show. If 1306 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: if the Panthers somehow pull it off, unless you're picking 1307 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the Panthers, Um, that's it. It's Bridget's last show. I 1308 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: just think I've been to so many games this year 1309 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: where I thought they were going to go one way 1310 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 1: and didn't. Interesting, it's just as tough off like I 1311 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: was at the Chargers Jaguars game. I was at the 1312 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Charger Seahawks game maybe to be I kind of think 1313 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: the Falcon's got the Panthers best shot two weeks ago 1314 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: and they managed to win. Anyways, And so I'm with 1315 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you guys that I think the Falcons will win this game. 1316 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: But it is you know, it's a division game. You 1317 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: want to join us that I don't. I haven't looked 1318 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 1: at the whole slate, so I don't know what I'm 1319 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna do, but I don't need to about this. He 1320 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: came off ire he was practicing today their safety. Who 1321 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: will make a huge difference. I don't think he's gonna 1322 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: play Thursday though that he wouldn't if getting locks was wrong, 1323 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Like Nick Westling would never be allowed on this show, 1324 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: so you can get locks wrong. Um this is this 1325 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: is a tugboat heat check having a big season right 1326 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: now on the pics and I don't even need to 1327 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: see the rest of the schedule. Okay, I don't want 1328 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: to do it though I'm not. I don't like it. 1329 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,439 Speaker 1: When we're all together, Mark, it's a classic tugboat heat check. 1330 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: It is, it's it's right. Put it, put it right 1331 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 1: in that folder. Alright. That was the t NAF preview 1332 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: presented by Prime Video. The new era of Thursday Night 1333 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Football is officially here, and it's only on Prime Video. 1334 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: Let's see all right, you have said it all, Bridget Condon. 1335 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: You can follow Bridget on the old Twitter at Bridge 1336 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: and condent with an underscoredge. I can't get the woman 1337 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: to give me it. She hasn't been on since like 1338 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. She has no Are you guys 1339 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna pay the twenty bucks for the blue check? I 1340 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: think I'll have the company pay for me. Stick it 1341 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, exactly. That will be that will be 1342 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: expensed at the very least company you. At some point, though, 1343 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: I won't it become it'll almost be embarrassing to have 1344 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: it right because they know that you're paying. I'm a mark. 1345 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, I wonder if that is really a thing. 1346 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Just like I'm a mark, kind 1347 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: of like you pay to go to your friends party. 1348 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I thought you were throwing that at me. I mean 1349 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 1: like you're the guy at the poker table that people 1350 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,959 Speaker 1: see as the one that they could take. I would 1351 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: be honestly, I would have no problem if Twitter just 1352 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: imploded tonight and did not exist anymore, and then I 1353 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: could live with that absolute and justice. Bridget, I realized 1354 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I had not been following you. I just banged you know. 1355 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna try and mess did you? Yes? Last 1356 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: night I was like having all this anxiety about coming 1357 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 1: on the show. I'm like, I'm gonna message him and 1358 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't even are not open to just to show you, 1359 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm even going to send you my phone number through 1360 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: d M the show that we are. Now. What's this interesting? Though? Mark? 1361 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 1: The way Bridget's mind work that she wanted to come 1362 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 1: with that anxiety and find out you know to Dan, 1363 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: but when she realized she could DM me or you, 1364 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 1: she was like, NA, they don't really matter. Check your 1365 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: d didn't we didn't really register as that relevant and 1366 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: make up. Okay, that's one way to bridget you said 1367 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: it all. Thank you so much, Thank you everybody for listening. Yes, 1368 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: check out the Monday Night football recap with Jordan Roderig, 1369 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: check out our Thursday program coming up, or we preview 1370 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: the rest of week ten. Until then, are you doing justin? 1371 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:56,559 Speaker 1: Thanks for asking, I'm playing the song don't Oh Tough 1372 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: ending