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Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to what is the season

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Speaker 1: three finale of the Let's Be Real Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Sammy Jay, and welcome. We are ending the season on

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Speaker 1: a very, very high note with the incredibly talented entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: businesswoman actress Jessica Alba. We talked about a lot in

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Speaker 1: this episode, and I usually give you a quick downlow

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Speaker 1: on well what's about to happen, but I really just

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Speaker 1: want to let this episode speak for itself. I just

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Speaker 1: want to thank Jessica for coming on my podcast and

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Speaker 1: for all of you for listening every week or this

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Speaker 1: is your first week listening. I have enjoyed this journey

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Speaker 1: so much, and I hope you enjoyed this week's episode. Jessica,

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Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled and honored here on my podcast. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. This is We're exciting. I have

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Speaker 1: looked up to you for such a long time, specifically

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Speaker 1: as a businesswoman, because something that I've tried to do

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Speaker 1: or learn about is just I love creating things. I

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Speaker 1: love the process of developing something and then seeing it

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Speaker 1: come to fruition and the process of that. And that's

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Speaker 1: what you do now, like you're the products. You're producing.

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Speaker 1: They're not only doing that, but they have an incredible

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Speaker 1: mission behind it. When you first started, honest um, what

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Speaker 1: was the process like of developing products? Because that's a

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Speaker 1: completely separate world than acting. Um, I think the process

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Speaker 1: was more satisfying actually, because I actually got to have

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Speaker 1: And um, I think it took three years before I

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Speaker 1: it was me putting it down on like a vision

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Speaker 1: board and then turning my vision board into like like

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Speaker 1: like a visual book, and then I categorized this book

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Speaker 1: then I had to So it's like taking something from

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Speaker 1: think for them, they were like, why is this idea

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Speaker 1: not that he didn't think I was capable of it.

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Speaker 1: He was like, can you walk before you run? Um?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I want to have like

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Speaker 1: and I want to create safe and healthy products and

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Speaker 1: frankly a lifestyle around honesty and being honest and authentic

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Speaker 1: not perfect. Um. I felt like anything that was natural

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Speaker 1: type of person that lived off the grid and did

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Speaker 1: You know, my family was living paycheck to paycheck all

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Speaker 1: Everyone needs tips and tricks on how to like hack

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Speaker 1: I think it's so crazy that you talk about is

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Speaker 1: just a clean, honest brand. Is should be what all

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Speaker 1: Everyone could do it? Yeah, if it was easy, and

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Speaker 1: What do you do to stay in the moment? Because

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Speaker 1: The way Hollywood is structured, especially the way they treat

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Speaker 1: of stumbled upon, um in realizing that the media has

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Speaker 1: kind of taken the human out of a person they portray.

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00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: They put people on a pedestal, and it's so easy

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Speaker 1: to forget that these people are, like, there's just a

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Speaker 1: human being. And I feel like social media, for as

435
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: many great things, it does accelerate that a little bit,

436
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: and I aspire to be more like you in the

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00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: way you view social media as a business, because I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to do that. But at the same time, I'm like, Okay,

439
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Speaker 1: I'm nineteen. I'm a nineteen year old girl, and then

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00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: I have the effects of social media, but I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to think of it as a business. What advice do

442
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: you have, because I know you say you compartmentalize pretty

443
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Speaker 1: well to kind of not feed into that world. I

444
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: would say, it's interesting if I was a nineteen year

445
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: old girl, what would I do if I was going

446
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: to leverage social media as a strategic business, you know, Avenue,

447
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: I would probably unfollow most people that I know, and

448
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: I would probably only follow people that I aspired to

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00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: be like or people they wanted to work with. And

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00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I would obviously follow my mom and dad because they

451
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, probably and they would want me to see

452
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: their their posts. Um. But then your feed is really strategic.

453
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Speaker 1: What you're seeing reminds you while you're there, and if

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00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: I you know, for me, I follow a lot of

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00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: people that I think just do a good job on

456
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: social media and resonate with people, and I'm like, God,

457
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: they do a really good job at making people feel

458
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: like they're getting an intimate sort of snapshot of their life.

459
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: It they're not really saying much. It's just like them

460
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: like feeding their dogs cereal or you know, it's like

461
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: they're just like taking a selfie on set whatever. But

462
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: that's like, it's the BTS. It's the BTS, And there's

463
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: something that feels so intimate about it because their coffee

464
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: is spilled on their shirt and that feels so human, right,

465
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and so I the bar is so low. But I'm

466
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: just saying, like they there are certain people that are

467
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Speaker 1: really good at social media, and so I would follow

468
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: those people, and then I follow just people that I

469
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: think would be cool to collaborate with, or to do

470
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: a skit with, or do something on YouTube with, or

471
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: to do a podcast with. And so I just follow

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00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people like that as well that I

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00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: think would just be like a good business partner. And uh.

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00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: And then some news feeds that I think are cool. Um.

475
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: And if you do follow entertainment news feeds, I think

476
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: you should accord order of your news feeds should be

477
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: entertainment and gossip related if you are someone that you

478
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: know follows those feeds. But I think three quarters of

479
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: it should be about real things that you care about,

480
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: inspirational quotes, something in science or math or the media

481
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: that you really like, you know, whatever, it is a

482
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: bird species, you know, you can kind of go in

483
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: on any of it. Social mediabit hole, it is a

484
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. But I think funnel your feed so that

485
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: it's serving you and the algorithm picks up a more

486
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: healthy mental process for yourself. I like that idea a lot,

487
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: and I'm very much going to consider that and do

488
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: more research on that, because you know, do you know

489
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: my left my life motto is for the past, Like

490
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: it's a eight months tell me fuck it? Why not

491
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: suck it? Why not put it? On a shirt. I

492
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: think it works because something I've realized is the amount

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Speaker 1: of time I spend on my phone in high school,

494
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: especial you joined the pandemic, it was like thirteen hours

495
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: a day, and I was like, that's terrible, and so

496
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: I started being very aware of it. I started deleting apps,

497
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: just spending less time of it, and then I got

498
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: creative again, and then I wanted to develop more things.

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Speaker 1: And I think we can live in a world where

500
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: it can be hard to know where to start. I

501
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: always say the hardest part is starting something. Um, what

502
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: would you say the best way to start is, whether

503
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: that's creating a business or starting a career in an aspect,

504
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: would you say it's doing research on it or would

505
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: you say it's going full steam ahead? I would say

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Speaker 1: how to start something. I'm a fan of a vision board.

507
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: I think I love a good vision board, you know,

508
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: cut out and do it in real life, something that's

509
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: I r l um. Go to like a flea market,

510
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: thrift store, magazine stand and just get things that make

511
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: you happy or look pretty, and gets a hot glue

512
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Speaker 1: gun and some poster board and just start together a

513
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: mishmash of things that just bring you joy, um, and

514
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: if you can focus it on a something that reminds

515
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: you of whatever for you. If you're like I want

516
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: to make films or documentaries or produce you know, something specific,

517
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, so what documentaries inspire you and

518
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: what stories inspire you? And you'll just almost if you

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00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: like meditate and you just like sort of quiet your

520
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: mind and take like three breaths and you just say, like,

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I just want to be open to the stories that

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00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: I should be telling. And whoever you believe God, your

523
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: spirit guides yourself. UM, guide me to where what I

524
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: should care about and stories that I should care about,

525
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: and and the things will come in when you're open,

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00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: Life will hand you everything that you need. Yeah. I

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00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: the first vision board I created, I photoshopped my face

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00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: next to um people that I wanted to interview, and

529
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: I would take an interview and I photoshot my face

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00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: on top of the interviewer just to like see it visually.

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00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: And I think that really helped. And those there were

532
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: and it happens, many of them happened. I'm the manifested.

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00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Do you believe a manifestation? Of course? Okay, because I'm

534
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: trying to get more in it, and I you know

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00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: that you you just explained it. See I agree with that.

536
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: But then when I talk to people, some people are like, no,

537
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: it's not a thing. It's in your head. Why isn't

538
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: that a thing. That's what manifesting is. You have to

539
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: first have the thought that it's going to happen, and

540
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: then if you need to solidify make that thought more tangible,

541
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: you create a vision board. Otherwise, if the thought is there,

542
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: you and you create. I mean, you're interviewing people, so

543
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: there you go. You manifest unintentionally manifested acts. Yeah. Yeah,

544
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean you can either call it manifesting or not,

545
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. It's just facts. That's

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00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: what you've done. I guess, so I haven't really thought

547
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: of it like true story. Okay, we have to take

548
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: one more quick break, but when we come back, I

549
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about what it was like

550
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: on the day your company went public and how your

551
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: new children's book is giving back to those in need

552
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: in an amazing way. We'll be right back and we're back.

553
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: What was it like going public with your company? It

554
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: was like an out of body experience. I mean, I

555
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: can only really liken it too. I never had a wedding,

556
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: and I've never really had like a big celebration that

557
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: I like planned for for months um, And so the

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: only thing I can really think about that it could

559
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: be like is maybe wedding um, where you like plan

560
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: all the details and you like have an idea and

561
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: there's speeches and there's you know, a time when this

562
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: is gonna happen and that is going to happen. So UM.

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00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: It felt weird because we were planning for it for

564
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: so long um leading up to it, and then when

565
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: it actually happened, it was like very surreal. It was weird.

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00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: It was like a really cool experience because my family

567
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: was there, my friends were there, and this journey was

568
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: like so wild and and no one in a million

569
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: years ever thought that it could ever be possible. And

570
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: so when it comes to manifesting, I think me acknowledging

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00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: that I manifested that and I created that reality and

572
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: giving myself the space to enjoy that moment and really

573
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: um be present, I think that that was like the

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00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: most important thing for me. And regardless of sort of

575
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: like anyone else's experience in it, I had to take

576
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: ownership and and really lean into what my genuine take

577
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: away and experience what I wanted it to be, and

578
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: be okay with that because I love to distract myself

579
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: with like is every is what are my kids going

580
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: to think? And what is what are the bankers going

581
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: to think? And what is you know, a leadership team

582
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: going to think in each one of them and thinking

583
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: of where they are in their life. Because I'm very

584
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: um an EmPATH, right, and so I try to take

585
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: on everyone else's experience and and see through their eyes.

586
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: But um, I really disallowed myself to be completely present

587
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: in my own body and it was wild. That's a

588
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: great state to be and demeditate. I should meditate more.

589
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: I want to try. I have troubles like being still

590
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: for that long. Yeah, you don't necessarily. It's interesting because

591
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't think meditating is the same for everyone, and

592
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I think it can take on different forms. I like

593
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: actually like to listen to and be guided through meditations.

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00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: Um And there's actually a lot of like brain um

595
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: sort of like frequency music that you can listen to.

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00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: You can even get it free like on Spotify. Um

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00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: And it it's just like meditating to me is when

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00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: you can sort of like allow yourself to breathe and

599
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: even let your mind drift, but then sort of like

600
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: rest your mind from the busy the busy stuff in

601
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: and all the details right and just be able to

602
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 1: just sort of like drift um. And sometimes it's going

603
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: on a run, sometimes it's on a spin bike. Sometimes

604
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: it's doing yoga. Sometimes it's listening to, you know, a

605
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: guided meditation. Sometimes it's listening to like frequency sounds. So

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I love listening to frequency sounds on you the see.

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00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: I guess I'm realizing many things I do now have

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00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: titles they didn't even realize at this point. That's what

609
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: I think. We are living in such a world where

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00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: everything is so go, go go. Taking the time to

611
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: kind of acknowledge everything that's happening and take a moment

612
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: to think about where you want to go forward is

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00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: so powerful and something that we don't do enough in society.

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00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: And I feel like we're always focusing on the next thing,

615
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: but being present is so important. Yeah, And I think

616
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes when you're so focused on the future,

617
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: you forget to be grateful for what's happening right now.

618
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: And if you're always living for tomorrow, you're almost never

619
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: going to be satisfied, right, because it's hard for it

620
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: to live up to a fantasy. And so I do

621
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: think that there's something that I've been doing lately as

622
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: well to sort of help with that focus. Is there's

623
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: certain crystals that kind of like remind you of certain

624
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: um things. And one of them is like a rose

625
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: quartz crystal is really it symbolizes like a heart opener um.

626
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: And so if you're like listening to your frequency sounds

627
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: and you just have your like a rose quartz crystal

628
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what size it is um and you kind

629
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: of like lay it like in the here, like next

630
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: to your heart, and you just sort of like lay

631
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: there with the crystal there, and you just think about,

632
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: like I just want my heart to be open, and

633
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: I want to be open to what I'm supposed to

634
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: be doing in this life, in this moment, and just

635
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: like kind of say that in your head a couple

636
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: of times while you're listening to your music, maybe you'll

637
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: get some kind of opening that, yeah, you know, you

638
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: never had before. I love that you're doing a lot.

639
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: We can also now add children's book author to them.

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00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk about this because I'm also

641
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: developing a children's book right now you are, I am, um,

642
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: what was the process like of creating it and what

643
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: is it like now that it's out? Well? I I

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00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: collaborated with my friends. My my girlfriend, one of my

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Speaker 1: them and distributes them to people living in poverty. And

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Speaker 1: when they came on and I joined the board, we

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Speaker 1: sort of we were saying, you know, the goal is

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Speaker 1: in poverty who don't have access to things like a

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Speaker 1: clean diaper, basic human miss as these, yeah, that we

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Speaker 1: don't even realize that people just don't have access to.

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Speaker 1: And because um the government UM programs like WICK and

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Speaker 1: and things like that. It's actually looked at as a

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Speaker 1: like like they tax a luxury item like tobacco and alcohol.

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Speaker 1: They tax diapers and feminine care outside of California. That

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Speaker 1: is an interesting cycle of poverty where something like diapers

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Speaker 1: the table, Like they have to choose. Am I gonna

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Speaker 1: put food on the table. Am I going to pay

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Speaker 1: the rent? Am I going to keep the lights on?

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Speaker 1: Or am I going to diaper my child? So they

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Speaker 1: use dirty diapers and reuse them on their babies. Um,

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Speaker 1: a lot of these families don't have a safe place

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Speaker 1: smothered because they have multiple children in a bed um

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Speaker 1: and they just don't have kind of any other way.

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Speaker 1: And especially COVID really knocked people sideways. Um. So we

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Speaker 1: at Baby to Baby have distributed two hundred million items

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Speaker 1: to families living in poverty, and a hundred million of

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Speaker 1: those items have happened during the COVID pandemic. But to

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Speaker 1: be able to like collaborate with my my girlfriends and

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Speaker 1: create this this book that teaches a child about giving back,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to have like an Afro Latina as

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Speaker 1: our main character. Um, there's actually more animals that are

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Speaker 1: leads in children's books than um children people of color

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Speaker 1: and grow rolls. Um. So what is the world we

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Speaker 1: live in? It's the truth And so for us it

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Speaker 1: was like also just showing up my kids are mixed,

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Speaker 1: their black, Mexican and white, and just to have that

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Speaker 1: representation of like our family and then it's so important

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Speaker 1: and heard right, it's it is important. That's awesome, And

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Speaker 1: I think having that representation and having those lessons instilled

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Speaker 1: is hopefully can to make the country much better because

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Speaker 1: I think we can all do better. I think the

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Speaker 1: more diverse our country is, the more women stand up

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Speaker 1: for themselves, the more people of color stand up for themselves,

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Speaker 1: and the more that we all decide that we deserve

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Speaker 1: to be treated equal, the more we're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to expose the injustices that have been afflicting us for

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Speaker 1: thousands of years. Yeah, And I think it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where you inspire me to want to have

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Speaker 1: a business because the way, in my opinion, you said

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Speaker 1: you look at success is doing good instead of making money,

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Speaker 1: which I think is so important. I feel like if

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Speaker 1: we all looked at the world like that, we can

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Speaker 1: make such more of a positive impact. Yeah, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, like I'm not. My business is a business.

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Speaker 1: It's not a charity. But you can align yourself. You're

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Speaker 1: doing charity. So when you buy Honest, you are supporting

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Speaker 1: baby to baby, you are supporting March of Times. You

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Speaker 1: are supporting. We wouldn't be able to do what we

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Speaker 1: do and with the nonprofits we work with or give

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Speaker 1: back the way that we do if people didn't bring

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Speaker 1: on us into their homes, into their lives. So the

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Speaker 1: more you support us, the more we can do good

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Speaker 1: on top of standing for sustainability, transparency, clean ingredients, and

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Speaker 1: high ethical values and standards in the way that we

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Speaker 1: run our business. Yeah, I love your business structure. I

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Speaker 1: think it's so more people to do it. Thanks. I

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Speaker 1: hope it becomes a trend. Well, Jessica, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on my podcast. I know you are insane. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's been a few years in the making. I know,

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Speaker 1: and I you know. I hope you get to sleep soon.

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Speaker 1: You know what me too. Yeah, thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for listening to the season three finale of the

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Speaker 1: Last Bieral Podcast. I hope you enjoyed this episode. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't subscribed to leave a comment, you, guys, if

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Speaker 1: we want to force season to happen, we need some comments,

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Speaker 1: We need some good recommendations. So that would mean so

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Speaker 1: much to me. And thank you so much, Jessica for

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Speaker 1: taking the time out of your incredibly busy schedule to

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Speaker 1: chat with me. I think this conversation, I think all

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Speaker 1: of us can agree that it was really refreshing to

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Speaker 1: hear the truth about what it's like to be such

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Speaker 1: a inspiring and hard working woman in this day and age.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't followed Jessica on all her social media,

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Speaker 1: I T S S A M M Y j A

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Speaker 1: y E. And I will hopefully see you next season.

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Speaker 1: All right, bye, guys,