1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to short Stuff. I'm Josh and there's 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Chuck and we're talking short stuff today. We're talking widgets 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: on short stuff. I should say widgets that were first 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: introduced as a concept from a play, right, Chuck. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was the word. First of all, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: we need to think our old buddy Brian Didsbury. Oh right, 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: the boom operator on the stuff. You should know a 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: TV show so great, who comes to our live shows? 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Still a friend. He texted me all the time trying 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: to get me to play Red Dead Redemption with him online. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: He texted me Simpson's quotes. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Does he really? Oh? Did he text you about this too? 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: No? 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he texted me a couple of days ago 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: and it's like, hey man, how about one on the 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Guinness widget. I was like, done, buddy, it's a good idea, 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: for sure it is, and said thanks to Guinness dot com. 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: How stuff works, conservable, conversible, economist, petroleum service company? Where 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: else YouTube? 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty much it. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, get widgets. Everybody thinks it's basically a spinoff 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: of the word gadget, which is probably true. We don't 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: know the true etymology, but I believe It was in 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: a play in nineteen twenty four where they specifically in 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: the play talked about like we're in the widget business, 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: and that maybe like the first time that anyone had 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 2: ever used it like that. But then Guinness came along 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: and said, well, you know what everyone talks about, widgets 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: is just a thing you make, a nameless thing you 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: make at any company. We're going to make a real thing, 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: and we're really going to call it a widget and 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: get it patented as such. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did. It's this thing that makes canned 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: guinness much more like Guinness from the tap, which is 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: actually much more like Guinness from a cask, because Guinness 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: is its own kind of thing. As a matter of fact, 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I say we dig into how Guinness' is Guinness. 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: That's right. I think we should prep people that this simple, simple, 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: little short stuff was a cause of a lot of 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: emails and consternation between us today. 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Right, is it simple? 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: I think? So? 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think you should take the lead. 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: In basically a pong ball. 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, the widget is simple, right, so let's talk 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: about what we're talking about. If you open a can 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: of Guinness and just the can, it's not in the bottle. 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: There's a little plastic sphere with a hole in the 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: bottom that you will hear rattling around the can if 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: you cut the can open very gently, set one aside, 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: and then be very careful holding the other one up 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: because it's a slice can. They're very dangerous. And look 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: inside you'll see this little plastic sphere that is the 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: Guinness widget. And there's no, it's not that big, is 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: it now? 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: That looks a little smaller. 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: But could you though, does it have bounce to it? 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: M I doubt it because it's not it's not full 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: of air, okay, and it's heavier. I was just making it. 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I didn't know. I could see that being 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: like a thing that the Internet figured out. 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: I bet they've done that in Ireland. And by the way, 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Guinness calls these officially within the Guinness Company, they call 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,559 Speaker 2: it smooth. 65 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: The fire okay, So everybody else calls it a widget then, yeah, okay, 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: So they put this in there and only God themself 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: knows how they work. 68 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little bit about a guy named 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: Michael Ash. In nineteen fifty one, Michael Ash joined the 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: Guinness Company. He was a mathematician he's a master brewer. 71 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: He was a big believer in science, and he was like, hey, 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: there's all these beers that are made with carbon dioxide, 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: and it's that CO two that dissolves in the beer 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: that makes it fizzy when you open it up. When 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: the can is closed, the pressure inside is much higher 76 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: than the pressure outside. So when you open that thing up, 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: there's a pressure drop and the agitation of pouring it 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: makes that CO two come bubbling out, and that's where 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: you get your foamy head on a beer. 80 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Right. 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: He was like, this cask guinness is smooth and creamy 82 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: and CO two just doesn't do it. If we're going 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: to try and put the stuff in pubs and eventually 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: in cans. 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: No, no, So if you have a cask, the beer 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: that's put into the cask, it ages in the cask, 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: like when you deliver it to a pub, it's still 88 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: doing its thing aging and once you tap the cask 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: you have three days to drink it. That's how unpasteurized 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: and new it is. But the thing is is when 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: you get the beer out of the cask, you have 92 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: to actually pump it out, and that creates like a 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: totally different pour and finish than if you're pouring it 94 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: out of a cake. So, because the world kind of 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: transitioned from casks to kegs around the middle of the 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: twentieth century, Michael Ashen was like, well, then, what can 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: we do to make guinness more cask like or keep 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: its cask like profile and look and taste and everything. 99 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: And he figured out that adding nitrogen is what would 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: do that. 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: That's right, and you know what, I think that's a 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: good little cliffhanger. Okay, so let's take a break and 103 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the magic inside the Guinness can and 104 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: glass right after this. All right, So where we left off, 105 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: Michael ash had discovered that nitrogen along with it's not 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't replace the CEO two. It's a mixture of 107 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: the carbon dioxide and nitrogen, but nitrogen isn't absorbed into 108 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: the beer like carbon dioxide is. So it it has 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: the same pressure of just a regular beer, but it 110 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: has a lot less CO two, and so it's not 111 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: as physy, which is not what you want out of 112 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: a Guinness anyway, because that nitrogen is making up a 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: great deal of that pressure inside the can. 114 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and even though it's harder for nitrogen to dissolve 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: inside beer CO two. It's very easy. Nitrogen will some 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: will dissolve and it forms smaller bubbles and more stable 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: bump bubbles. So when you pour this nitrogen infused Guinness beer, 118 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: the the head will be foamier, much creamier than say 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: like a CO two loggerhead that eventually kind of settles 120 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: down and looks like urine in a glass after a while, 121 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: especially if we're talking about cores banquet beer. This is 122 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: like a foamy head that, because the nitrogen bubbles are 123 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: more stable, stays around way longer too. So he figured 124 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: out by adding nitrogen and you can basically replicate the 125 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: look and the feel and the taste of cask poor 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: Guinness like it used to be. 127 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: That's right. So the next step was like how do 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: I make this happen in a can? It seemed like 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: an impossibility until a guy named John Lunn l u 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: n N, a master distiller, created the widget the patent. 131 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: I believe Guinness eventually filed for the patent in sixty 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: nine for an improved method of and means of dispensing 133 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: carbonated liquids from containers. It began as a Project Dynamite, 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: but apparently there was a lot of that was problematic 135 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: for customs because it said Project Dynamite on all the 136 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: paperwork and stuff. So yeah, yeah, so they changed it 137 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: to Project oak Tree. 138 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: They changed with the Project Dino mi right. 139 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: They changed it to Project Nuclear Waste. Now Project oak 140 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Tree I think was a reference to the original Project 141 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: Acorn from Guinness. So they wanted to get these cans 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: right that you can get Guinness in a bottle, but 143 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: it's not the same beer at all. It's completely different beer. 144 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: So like the you like the canned version better? Huh 145 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, the pub version. I might not be 146 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: doing it right then, because I'm like, what is this crap? 147 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Like this is I would rather just drink the Guinness 148 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: out of a bottle any day of the week. 149 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, do you like Guinness in a pub? 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever actually had real Guinness 151 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: in a pub? 152 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh Josh, Because it''m taking you to England next week. 153 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Okay, that'd be awesome, you like really? 154 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: Yea, that just surprises me. 155 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I must not import it correctly because it doesn't make 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: any sense that they would even go to this trouble 157 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: of putting a widget in it to make worse guinness 158 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: than it is in the bottle. So I just didn't 159 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: do it right, that's my guess. 160 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, maybe you just don't understand the concept of guinness. 161 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: I mean, guinness is supposed to go down like a 162 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: milk and not a fizzy carbonated beverage. It's got They 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: call it the surge and settle. It pours in and 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: you just see it gently falling to the bottom and 165 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: you get this milky foam at the. 166 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: Top the cascade. 167 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that's why I could always drink a 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: lot of guinness because it didn't it didn't fill you 169 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: up and make you super gassy and burpie. 170 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Wow. So I've been doing the opposite because drinking a 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: single bottle of guinness is like eating a whole loaf 172 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: of bread to me. 173 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the bottle is completely different. 174 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So I got to try this other version 175 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: because what you're talking about is basically the opposite of 176 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: the guinness I'm familiar with. 177 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is that. 178 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: That's funny, Like I really want to try it, Like 179 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: you've just blown my mind. 180 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh man, go out and get a four pack 181 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: and crack the can open and then just dump it 182 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: in the glass as hard as you can. Just turn 183 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: it upside down, okay, and it won won't overflow or anything. 184 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: It'll get to the top and just stop and then 185 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: start settling. 186 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: Well, there's this other thing they have now too, that 187 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I guess kind of takes the whole thing into a 188 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: new level. It's called nitro surge. 189 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: It's like I saw that. 190 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: You put it on top of the can and it 191 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: does it does the pouring like it would from a cask, 192 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: as far as I understand, right there at home, or 193 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, in the parking lot of a convenience store. 194 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the nitro surge. I don't think they 195 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: sell them here yet, but it's like a I think 196 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: it's like a mechanical device, like does I have a 197 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: battery in it? Even I'm not fully sure. I stopped 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: to look into it when I realized how much further 199 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: it was taking me away from the widget. You know 200 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: what I mean? 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot. We were talking about the widget. 202 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: All right, Let's get back to the widget. 203 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: So the widget is a little plastic ball, and I 205 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 2: think this is where we got hung up earlier. I 206 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw my most recent email, I 207 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: think it's a matter of semantics, because I kept saying 208 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: that the in Guinness on their website says it's a 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: nitrogen filled sphere, and you're like, it's not filled with nitrogen. 210 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: I think it's just semantics because they don't literally fill 211 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: this ball with nitrogen and then drop it in Okay, 212 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: they can't. It is because it has a hole in it. 213 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: It's you drop it in there and then fill the 214 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: can with nitrogen, and then that ball fills up with 215 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: nitrogen and beer, gotcha, got and it stays in this 216 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: tiny It's basically a little mini turbojet. So when you 217 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: crack that beer, it's a little mini ball with higher 218 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: pressure than the rest with then even what's inside the 219 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: rest of the can. And so when you crack that 220 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: beer and all that pressure changes, just like a regular beer, 221 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: it comes shooting out of that little tiny hole in 222 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: the plastic ball and provides this little extra boost of 223 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: nitrogen like a little beer jet, agitating everything to create 224 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: even more bubbles. 225 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: Right. But the specific kind of nitrogen bottles that make 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Guinness Guinness, which are smaller and more stable, so you 227 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: get that foamy, creamy head in the cascade and all 228 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: that I get me. Yeah, all right, he did a 229 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: great job. 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: I think it was the semantical thing when people say 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: it's filled with nitrogen. It is, but as a virtue 232 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: of the canning process, they don't like fill it up 233 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: and go like quick throw it in there. Right. 234 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: You have to hold it just right, put your thumb 235 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: over the hole, and then just throw it in and 236 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: put the top of the can on really quick. 237 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's really ingenious though. I mean it's got this 238 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: this tiny little hole and imagine a little ball filled 239 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: with like nitrogen infused beer being jetted out of this 240 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: tiny little hole as you're pouring, as you've opened and 241 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: pouring this beer. It's so simple, it's ingenious and so 242 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: ingenious that in two thousand and four they did a 243 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: survey of almost nine thousand people and they voted that 244 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: the Guinness widget was a greater invention than the Internet. 245 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: Right, and they're prong. But I get the point for sure. 246 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: I mean it's something to put on your website. 247 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: I guess it depends which version of the Internet you're 248 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: talking about, you know. 249 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Have you ever had any 250 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: like cream stouts? Yeah, like on Bodding Ten's or Murphy's 251 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: or any of those. 252 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, the guinness, Like I just associated a 253 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: stout with like like I just had dinner three hours ago. 254 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: I can't drink a stout because I'll throw up, I'll 255 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: be too full. 256 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's uh. To my mind, it's a 257 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: misnomer because stout sounds heavy because it's a big, dark beer. 258 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: But it's because it's not heavily carbonated like a lagger like. 259 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: It doesn't fill you up like that. It doesn't make 260 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: you gassy and burpie. It's like drinking a big thick milk, 261 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: which may make you feel full, but it's not from 262 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: like gassy fuls. 263 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Okay, we're getting tripped up by semantics again. It to me, yeah, 264 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: the big milky thing. If I drank a big glass 265 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: of milk after I ate, I would probably throw up. 266 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: So it's the same thing in that sense. But no, 267 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: it's not making me like you know, like Coors Bankwetpeer 268 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: would rap burpie or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't fill 269 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: you up in that sense. It like literally fills you up. 270 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: I gotcha. 271 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I think we're talking about the same thing. Well, 272 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: now I'm worried that I have experienced Guinness like you're 273 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: supposed to, and there's not like a whole world out 274 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: there for me to try. Well, you may not like it, 275 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: I'll try it for sure. I haven't. 276 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't drink a lot of beer anymore period. 277 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: And I went through a big Guinness phase in the nineties, 278 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: starting in college and through New Jersey. And in fact, 279 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: that brings me to another little factoid here. The Guinness 280 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: uses a floating widget since nineteen ninety seven. And I 281 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: was like, oh, that explains it, because in the nineties 282 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: we cut open the can because we were like, what 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: is that in there? And it was fixed to the 284 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: bottom of the can, So it was pre ninety seven 285 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: and during COVID with supply issues they fixed it to 286 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: the bottom of the can then as well. But otherwise 287 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: it's been a floating widget. 288 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you have been freaked out when you cut the 289 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: can open and you found the thing just fixed to 290 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: the bottom of the can looking back up at you 291 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: and blink. 292 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like little irish Eyeball right. 293 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: One other thing, though, there's a I noticed on this 294 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: list an old speckled hen uses widget to which I 295 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: didn't know that used to be one of my faith 296 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: beers for a while. 297 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Bodington's, Murphy's Beamish, tet Lee's, what else, 298 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: Wexford bell Haven And I'm sure we've missed some, but 299 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: they all use the widget technology to deliver that pub 300 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: pub drawn flavor to your lips right there at home. 301 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. This episode is Short Stuff, brought to you by 302 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: Corus Banquet Beer. Right. Yeah, I doubt that you got 303 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: anything else. 304 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: I got nothing else. I'm sure we got some stuff wrong. 305 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: There's some beer fishonados that are like, I'm not quite right. 306 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: Guys, whatever I think you should say the thing. 307 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Short Stuff is out. Stuff you should know is 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts my heart Radio, 309 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 310 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: You listen to your favorite shows.