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Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks and Happy Sunday, June twenty second, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to this inspirational episode of Amy and TJ. In

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Speaker 1: case you missed our quotes of the Day on our

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Speaker 1: Monday through Friday runs last week on our Morning Ron.

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Speaker 1: If you missed them, this is where we collect them

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Speaker 1: all and give you a little background about where we

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Speaker 1: got them from and what they mean to us. Started

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Speaker 1: with the doozy on Monday Robes. Uh, you plucked this

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Speaker 1: one out, you had you know what, You have some

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Speaker 1: doozies this week. I'll give you that you have some

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Speaker 1: really good ones, but this was our one on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is from Immam Ali born in five ninety

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Speaker 2: nine a d. This is our my way back quote

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Speaker 2: that's still applicable today. Two things define you. Your patients

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Speaker 2: when you have nothing, and your attitude when you have everything.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I like letting that one sync in because we've all

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Speaker 2: been or seemingly been in both places, and how we

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Speaker 2: react to that makes all the difference in who we are.

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Speaker 1: Have you done well in the past reacting to your patience?

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Speaker 1: Do you have patience when you have nothing when things

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Speaker 1: aren't going well?

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Speaker 2: No? I don't. Oftentimes and it's I think at a

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Speaker 2: certain point, it's recognizing it. Wow, I am now behaving

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Speaker 2: badly because I'm so frustrated or I feel so empty

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Speaker 2: and I feel like I have nothing left to give.

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Speaker 2: And so, yes, you don't give people or situations the

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Speaker 2: time they need to do what they're supposed to do

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Speaker 2: because you already feel like you're coming at it from

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Speaker 1: And your attitude when you have everything, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You might get a little proud and loud and some

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Speaker 2: hubrists might.

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Speaker 1: You guilty of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course, of course I'm guilty of all of

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Speaker 2: the above.

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Speaker 1: How about you? None of it? Absolutely, none of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with the cucuma, no matter what's happening around.

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Speaker 2: So you have humility as well. Apparently you're perfect. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to go that far, but I'm as

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Speaker 1: h I'm working on it. No, of course, not freaking moron.

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Speaker 1: You know what I am better about? Patience? Now, that's

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Speaker 1: something that is a personal struggle. I mean for everybody,

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Speaker 1: not just me. But I said that patience when things

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Speaker 1: are not going your way, having the faith that things

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Speaker 1: are going to be okay later, And some of that

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Speaker 1: actually comes with experience of knowing, oh wow, I made

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Speaker 1: it through that other thing. I made it through that

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Speaker 1: other thing that I didn't think I was going to

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Speaker 1: make it through. So that helps. But yeah, the attitude

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Speaker 1: we could all work on when things are going your way,

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Speaker 1: when you're at the top of the chain, when everything's cool.

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Speaker 1: What kind of person are you? And those two moments

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Speaker 1: in your eye really can't tell you a lot about

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Speaker 1: a person, tell you a lot about yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so a quote like this, I think just

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Speaker 2: reshape your mind and hopefully I can recall this and

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Speaker 2: remember this when the moment comes, either good or bad,

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Speaker 2: where I'm going to need to remember this. Two things

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Speaker 2: define you. Your patience when you have nothing, and your

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Speaker 1: Incredible quote of the day on Tuesday came from my files,

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Speaker 1: even though I can't remember where exactly I got it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is I've heard variations of this,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I put it together and made it mine,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not quite sure. But you were where was

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Speaker 1: it we were speaking? Last time I remember saying this

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Speaker 1: publicly was in a crowd. We spoke to a group

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Speaker 1: of students Arizona and Journalism School. What were we doing

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Speaker 2: We were actually covering the elections, the mid term elections,

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Speaker 2: and we were there and we were asked to speak

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Speaker 2: at the university yes journalism.

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Speaker 1: Students, and I gave the journalism students this quote, most

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Speaker 1: of your success before the age of thirty is based

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Speaker 1: on things you say yes too. After thirty, your success

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Speaker 1: is based on what you say no too, and rope

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Speaker 1: you say. You get to a point, maybe thirty thirty

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Speaker 2: In fact, when I gave the commencement addressed to these

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Speaker 2: theme was to say yes to everything, because you never know.

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Speaker 2: That's how you create your own luck. You're there enough times,

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Speaker 2: but you got to keep raising your hand and saying yes. However,

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Speaker 2: I have learned, maybe perhaps more from you, the art

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Speaker 1: But you say, even when you do say no, it

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Speaker 1: comes with some reasoning or logic, as if you have

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Speaker 1: a nation, justify why you don't want to do something,

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Speaker 1: I stay on you about this. You do, sweetheart. You

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Speaker 1: do not owe anybody any explanation. You're grown woman who

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Speaker 1: has the right to say no and leave it at that,

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Speaker 1: and that is something we have I have obviously worked

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Speaker 1: on you see me implement this question.

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Speaker 2: You have, you know, And I was told probably, I

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Speaker 2: yes to everything. But when someone told me no is

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Speaker 2: a complete sentence. That's what you're referring to. You don't

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Speaker 2: You can just politely say no nothings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and don't feel bad about saying no to things.

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Speaker 1: And how many times I know you've we've had some

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Speaker 1: breeds other opportunities because you say no and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's a new respect or oh, we're

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Speaker 1: them enough. So opportunities keep coming. After saying no, you

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Speaker 1: just set a new foundation, a new boundary for your boundaries.

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Speaker 2: Talk about boundaries.

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Speaker 1: We set a new boundary. So take that with you, folks.

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Speaker 1: Most of your success before the age of thirty, it's

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, our quote of the day came from Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Speaker 2: She is a woman who has if you look her up,

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Speaker 2: you google her. She has so many incredible words of wisdom.

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Speaker 2: I had never heard this quote before, and I loved

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Speaker 2: it because it's a reminder to all of us about

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Speaker 2: how we choose our words and how we spend our time,

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Speaker 2: what we spend our time talking about. Eleanor Roosevelt said this.

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Speaker 2: Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds

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Speaker 1: So when we did that on Wednesday, I said afterwards,

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Speaker 1: I said, folks, be mindful of your conversation. Just pay

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Speaker 1: attention today and what is it you're talking about? And

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Speaker 1: what is it other people are talking about? That was

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Speaker 1: a great way to put it. It just sums up

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Speaker 1: a greater conversation. How much you can tell about somebody.

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Speaker 1: I think the person always sitting around talking about that person?

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Speaker 1: Want to buzz one of Was it chat? What is

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Speaker 1: it called? Again? I don't even gossip? That's it?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gossip? Wait a minute, that's one of the

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Speaker 2: greatest evils. We have talked about this, and you know

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Speaker 2: when we've it's something that we've all participated in and

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Speaker 2: something we've all been subjected to or been the been

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Speaker 1: I think all of us, if every single person.

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Speaker 2: Can say, that's the truth, and so it's This is

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Speaker 2: also not just about looking at other people, but looking

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Speaker 2: about people? How often am I participating in gossip? Probably

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Speaker 1: You think you gossip, though, well, okay, gossip is a

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Speaker 1: stronger word. You could just be talking about people in it,

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Speaker 1: i'd be gossip. But I am trying to think now,

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Speaker 2: We know, it's just not a I can tell you

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Speaker 2: I gave up for lent that year gossip. That was

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Speaker 1: It was a rough lent for you, wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Actually it was an enlightening one. And it actually showed

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Speaker 2: And I was recognizing those moments when I chose not to.

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Speaker 1: So I were conscious of it. You were amazed at

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Speaker 2: Correct correct, And from that point on, I've tried to

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Speaker 1: Impact it can have on other folks. So, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, Small minds

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Speaker 1: discuss people. That takes us to Thursday. You went deep

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Speaker 1: they were all great. But you've been pointing out and

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Speaker 1: you've pulled the past few weeks. I mean quotes from

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable, the universality of what this human experience is,

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Speaker 2: no matter when you were born or where you're from.

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Speaker 2: This came from goy Nasu, a Japanese office. Here is

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Speaker 2: what he had to say. Oh, I love this. Visualize this.

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Speaker 2: An entire sea of water can't sink a ship unless

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Speaker 2: it gets inside the ship. Similarly, the negativity of the

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Speaker 2: get inside you.

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Speaker 1: That's it to me. Who can we blame? It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what's around you. You let it get in. Now

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Speaker 1: we got a problem. It's that simple. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: the analogy of a ship in that way. I mean

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Speaker 1: because I'm all way. We walked by the seaport yes

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Speaker 1: the other day and I looked at and said, how

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Speaker 1: are those things floating? I mean, you just they're amazing.

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Speaker 2: They're tight wonders.

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Speaker 1: But a huge ship like that can be surrounded by

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Speaker 1: Just fine? Why can't we all do that?

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Speaker 2: I will never truly look at a boat again without

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Speaker 2: thinking about this quote, and a reminder to me, a

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Speaker 2: reminder to all of us that we have the power

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Speaker 2: to chew, not to let negativity bring us down. When

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Speaker 2: we hear our thoughts and we all all have them,

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Speaker 2: or what we could have done, or what's supposed to happen,

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Speaker 2: or what we wish had happened. All those negative thoughts swirling.

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Speaker 1: One of them will clearly help you understand whether or

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Sunday edition of our Morning Run,

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Speaker 2: and we're bringing you our next quote. We brought you

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Speaker 2: If you are depressed, you are living in the past.

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Speaker 2: If you are anxious, you are living in the future.

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Speaker 2: If you are at peace, you are living in the present.

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Speaker 1: I've read entire books talking about this very thing, and

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Speaker 2: I think it can be both. I think anxiety can

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Speaker 2: The reason why that help? Does it help me sleep?

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Speaker 2: you with on this Sunday. This is from a very

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Speaker 2: famous author. If any of you have read The Alchemist,

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Speaker 1: Paolo sell Us, this is I remember you taking time

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Speaker 2: I'm I think it's Paaloquello. Oh, I can't believe I

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Speaker 2: forgot it. Now, Paolo Quello, this is what he had

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Speaker 1: Say that one more time, I put the people in

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Speaker 2: The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.

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Speaker 1: Everybody posts that on X today.

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Speaker 2: That is remarkable. So many of us want to say

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Speaker 1: And sometimes your opinion is setting a bad example. That's

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Speaker 2: You know what. There are so many people who are

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