Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
Speaker 1: She cooked, she cleaned, cared for her children and the
Speaker 1: man of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
Speaker 1: She was both.
Speaker 2: Obedient and soft by nature.
Speaker 1: She was a good woman who always made good choices.
Speaker 1: That we're good mom's bad choices? Who single mom? Who said?
Speaker 1: But the patriarchy shared all their bad choices and found
Speaker 1: out they were so bad. After all, we're experts overhairs
Speaker 1: and your new vesties. Sit back and near the ride.
Speaker 1: I can do a bad I can do on my
Speaker 1: Welcome back to good Mom's bad choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 1: I'm Mela. Happy hump day, bitches, Happy motherfucking hump day.
Speaker 1: We are in week two of June. How are you feeling?
Speaker 1: Are you surviving summer? I am? I got my fresh
Speaker 1: wig on. You're you are determin to wear the wigs.
Speaker 3: This is my third ship top wig. The first two
Speaker 3: or fails.
Speaker 1: This one. I think it's okay. It's a little shiny,
Speaker 1: but maybe hit a little bit little baby powder baby
Speaker 1: powder on the front, but we didn't have time for that,
Speaker 1: so we just.
Speaker 3: Put it on, clapped it on. Did Did you hear
Speaker 3: that this weekend and it reminds me. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: like the color. I'm having a hard time with blonde
Speaker 3: at the beginning.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with it? What do you mean when it
Speaker 1: first hits? Yeah, I don't. I don't like when it's
Speaker 1: in the root.
Speaker 3: I don't like being blonde to the root, solid like
Speaker 3: fresh shake a little dark root situation. And right now
Speaker 3: it's blonde to the root. And also she put a
Speaker 3: rose gold on it, and it just it's just not
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 1: Doing it for me. I'm gonna have to see it
Speaker 1: underneath it. What are you gonna call this one? This
Speaker 1: is Erica? This looks like old me? Okay, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about you now that
Speaker 1: we're having your wig your wig conversation. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about you because yesterday I met my parents at an
Speaker 1: old school barbecue and Auntie Viv was there.
Speaker 3: Just told me that I'm her niece. You know, I'm Bernie. Now,
Speaker 3: I didn't didn't say you knew me? No, I fuck no.
Speaker 3: Auntie Viv was chilling playing spades. Also, Tasha was there,
Speaker 3: our acting school.
Speaker 1: Queen. She was there, she's my dad's friend. And then
Speaker 1: also Johnny Gill was there. So I was basically at
Speaker 1: the old school Hollywood barbecue and I was having a
Speaker 1: good old time. And I left Orlando at home and
Speaker 1: I texted him like, damn, there's a lot of food
Speaker 1: here and viv Auntie Viv is playing spades. He's like,
Speaker 1: you left me? Why would you leave me? I could
Speaker 1: be playing spades with Aunti Viv. I was like, too bad,
Speaker 1: how sad I'm here? Do you know how to play spades? Hell? No,
Speaker 1: I wanna do you know? No? I was like, I've
Speaker 1: been taught like twenty two times. Me too, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't register my brain. I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I'm not a drinker. I'm not someone who wants to
Speaker 1: drink and talk shit and think I want to dance
Speaker 1: and shit. So that's not my it's not my. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And then my fucking drunk ass mom talking
Speaker 1: about she knew how to play. I was like, I've
Speaker 1: never seen you play spades in the whole thirty eight
Speaker 1: years I've known you that she was getting cursed out
Speaker 1: because she doesn't really know how to play. For us, yes,
Speaker 1: I do. This is cheat it. I was like, you're drunk,
Speaker 1: let's go. Oh my God. You know, people played like
Speaker 1: take Spade's super super super super serious. But you know,
Speaker 1: Auntie Viv had a little bun on and I was like,
Speaker 1: look at Anti Viv or Auntie viv pony on. But
Speaker 1: it was it was a nice little black backyarded barbecue
Speaker 1: with all the food you could think of. But I
Speaker 1: literally was like, I literally thought about you and your
Speaker 1: your your wigs, your collection of wigs. Is every time
Speaker 1: you put on a wig, you always talk about Anti
Speaker 1: Viv's ponytails.
Speaker 3: No, I had a full wig. I had a full
Speaker 3: Auntie Viv wig back when.
Speaker 1: I was to New York. And if she did, she
Speaker 1: had like a line of wigs.
Speaker 3: I think she still has a wig wine, but I
Speaker 3: looked like an Auntie and when I put it on
Speaker 3: at twenty seven years old. So no, I want to
Speaker 3: see her new movie. Though you've seen previous for her
Speaker 3: movie is God is you haven't?
Speaker 1: I don't think. So what is it about? Is it
Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the no is Tyler Perry. No, it's about
Speaker 3: two sisters who are out for revenge and one of
Speaker 3: them is like all burned on their face, like she
Speaker 3: has her face is like totally totally disfigured. And and
Speaker 3: Vivica plays their mom, and she's like, the preview is crazy.
Speaker 3: I the preview was like, the girls go visit her
Speaker 3: and she's in bed, and like you, she's revealed and
Speaker 3: she's totally like she's been burned severely, like she's healed,
Speaker 3: but she's fucked up. And basically their dad was abusive,
Speaker 3: and I guess the final thing that he did was
Speaker 3: just disfigure his wife, their mother, and now these two
Speaker 3: daughters and and and the daughter.
Speaker 1: Oh both of them got Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't really know the whole storyline, but
Speaker 3: this is what the preview looks like. Is now they're
Speaker 3: out for revenge to go find their dad who did
Speaker 3: this and kill him.
Speaker 1: Oh okay like it. Yeah, it looks really good. I'm
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was really happy to see her in it because
Speaker 3: it's like it's like an artsy black film.
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna kill it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's based off a play. So it's based
Speaker 3: off a play.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah. And now I'm just saying I'm just
Speaker 1: like going through all my all my Vivio and like
Speaker 1: my favorite moments, thinking like Quentin Tarantino, m m m, yeah,
Speaker 1: like like she was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just love how a lot of like Hollywood's
Speaker 3: like nineties actresses are having like a revival moment right now,
Speaker 3: or like they're finally getting like the respect that they
Speaker 3: deserve or being casted in films that aren't just like
Speaker 3: the same. Like you never would have thought you would
Speaker 3: have seen Vivica as a burn victim, you know, in
Speaker 3: like an edgy, campy horror film.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, I think a little bit
Speaker 1: on like her and her set it off that kind
Speaker 1: of like Primes Us for like and also Kill Bill
Speaker 1: like Killer I Vivica too, like she's still had in
Speaker 1: that realm. But I mean like then she kind of
Speaker 1: like she kind of like fell off. Well it's because
Speaker 1: fifty cent dragon her, because fifty cents a fucking.
Speaker 3: App But that's what I mean, Like women and black
Speaker 3: women in Hollywood don't get a lot of grace, like
Speaker 3: they kind of like gotta let she cool off for
Speaker 3: a second and for a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and like you know, even like Nil.
Speaker 3: Long, like she obviously like hasn't everyone's always loved ni
Speaker 3: al Long, but like you don't see her a lot
Speaker 3: of films, yes, we've seen her obviously in like the
Speaker 3: Natty Professor.
Speaker 1: No, that's no, not Professor o' the Best Man. No.
Speaker 3: She did another movie with Martin Lawrence, Big Mama's House,
Speaker 3: and you know she's but I just love how, like,
Speaker 3: you know, now she's in the Michael Jackson film and
Speaker 3: she's getting that notoriety and like you know, potentially maybe
Speaker 3: would be nominated for maybe an Oscar who knows.
Speaker 1: But I just I like that I'm.
Speaker 3: Seeing these women that we grew up watching like kind
Speaker 3: of having a big, a big moment right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, and now that you say that
Speaker 1: about Nayalal, like yes, she did the Big Mama's House,
Speaker 1: Siri or whatever, but uh, to see her cast it
Speaker 1: as Michael Jackson's mom, like our icons are like getting
Speaker 1: older and so they're getting like these roles because when
Speaker 1: I saw I didn't realize she was the mom and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I guess so because
Speaker 1: it's like young Michael's mom. But I'm like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: like it's interesting to be in the audience watching our
Speaker 1: faves get this like these these later that you know,
Speaker 1: she was the pyt in Fresh Prince, so it's interesting
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, to visual like to see it. I
Speaker 1: literally when I was at the barbecue and I was
Speaker 1: like I didn't notice, Like it was difficult at first,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, damn, Like I really thought
Speaker 1: about how much she did have to like chill out
Speaker 1: and how fucked up and mean the world was to her,
Speaker 1: like on the count of fifty cent and like how
Speaker 1: what a fucking asshole fifty cent is? And like also
Speaker 1: because he's a sensitive cancer and I just like he's
Speaker 1: just a sensitive boy and he's just like acting out,
Speaker 1: but like just being mean for years, Like how do
Speaker 1: you be the fucking internet bully for years and you're
Speaker 1: like fifty years old?
Speaker 3: Because men love it. Men love to see grown men
Speaker 3: be mean to women. They do, you know. And women
Speaker 3: aren't doing it about it either. They're joining it and
Speaker 3: peaking behind it, you know, especially when it's about a
Speaker 3: beautiful woman. I mean, we're seeing how fifty cents you know,
Speaker 3: handling this whole you know, Daphne joy thing with that's
Speaker 3: you know, her sex tape being leaked in the news
Speaker 3: or whatever on Vlad TV. Who God, his karma's gonna
Speaker 3: be so fucked up. He's gonna oh, he's so gross.
Speaker 3: But I but like just I just feel like what
Speaker 3: beautiful women like Vivica, Like, Okay, I'm not gonna put
Speaker 3: Daphne maybe in the same realm of Vivica, right, They're
Speaker 3: totally two different people with totally like Vicause, successful actress,
Speaker 3: but still like, I just see so often like beautiful
Speaker 3: women being penalized.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, we can talk.
Speaker 3: We can call it pretty privileged, whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call it, pretty pretty punishment.
Speaker 1: You think there's something that men genuinely enjoy about dragging
Speaker 1: a woman who is highly sought after, like like versus
Speaker 1: like a woman who they may think is less traditionally beautiful, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more fulfilling to like fuck her that bitch. Now
Speaker 1: she's gonna drag She's not cute anymore. I mean I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course there is. Yeah. And also I think like
Speaker 1: the part of Daphane is like also and Vivica like
Speaker 1: being sexual beings. Because there was a time like Vivica
Speaker 1: was outside with fifty cent he was like taking her
Speaker 1: to awards and then something switched up. But like, do
Speaker 1: women love the downfall of beautiful do men love the
Speaker 1: downfall of beautiful women? Like the collapse in the downfall
Speaker 1: to see, Like I don't know, it's almost like they
Speaker 1: enjoy throwing them away so shaming, like you know what
Speaker 1: it is, I see. I think I think a lot
Speaker 1: of grown men who secretly or not so secretly hate
Speaker 1: women all have this like this this villain origin story
Speaker 1: where they were a kid and they saw their mom
Speaker 1: or their aunt or their ex girlfriend in the sixth
Speaker 1: grade cheat on them, and now they hate all women
Speaker 1: and now they think all women are hoes and all
Speaker 1: women are users, and now like as soon as shit
Speaker 1: like that happens, it's like told you, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like it like affirms all of their childhood, like our
Speaker 1: new bitches weren't shit. Okay, Well, I never understood why
Speaker 1: women can never like come back from that.
Speaker 3: I feel like a less attractive woman would have a
Speaker 3: better chance. Why though, because it's I don't know, because
Speaker 3: it's easier to want to hate on the more beautiful woman.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I think historically, beautiful women have been underestimated,
Speaker 3: like they like, they have been downplayed. They have been
Speaker 3: considered the slut in the story, even if they didn't spread.
Speaker 1: Their legs at all.
Speaker 3: It's just this assumption that you know, because they are
Speaker 3: beautiful and there's this light on them and people are
Speaker 3: attracted to them, that everyone has access to them, and
Speaker 3: you know, it's just it's more fun.
Speaker 1: It's more fun to throw and shiny to.
Speaker 3: To have the person that was this high up on
Speaker 3: the pedestal to be knocked off is a lot more
Speaker 3: entertaining than the bitch who's like maybe on the medium
Speaker 3: pedestal that gets knocked off, Like, no, no one cares
Speaker 3: about that story.
Speaker 1: They want the bitch that's on the top that gets.
Speaker 3: Sucked up, you know, like there's no it's just it's
Speaker 3: not as entertaining, it's not as fulfilling, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: feed whatever insecurity is. It's it's it's feeding for whoever
Speaker 3: is doing the knocking off. And then the fun part
Speaker 3: is is like some women never recover, like some women
Speaker 3: literally knows don't recover, and even if they do recover publicly,
Speaker 3: there are still parts of them that are tied to that,
Speaker 3: like intense criticism or the intense Like when I saw
Speaker 3: that video of Daphni or whatever, I was like, this
Speaker 3: is fucked up because I saw that fifty cent like
Speaker 3: commented on it or said something about like his son
Speaker 3: is going to eighth grade, Like this isn't acceptable.
Speaker 1: It's like, first of all, fifty cent beat her ass
Speaker 1: like years ago beat her ass. So it's like the
Speaker 1: fucking audacity of you to a promote this be like
Speaker 1: come at me publicly and then bring my child into
Speaker 1: it when like this could have been anybody. Let's be real, But.
Speaker 3: I mean, is it really audacity. I mean, at this point,
Speaker 3: it's not audacity.
Speaker 1: This is what he This is normal because everybody allows it.
Speaker 1: But you know, he doesn't even have to have audacity
Speaker 1: about it. It's just is. But that's what It's so
Speaker 1: disappointing that as a society doesn't see this and think
Speaker 1: this is fucked up and they think, oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: whole I'm like, literally, no one is really commenting on
Speaker 1: p Diddy outside of his anatomy, but like not negatively
Speaker 1: outside of that, which is a whole other We.
Speaker 3: Talked about this like months ago, where we talked about it,
Speaker 3: and he's gonna recover from this.
Speaker 1: We're already seeing it happen.
Speaker 3: We're already seeing how like things are getting spun to
Speaker 3: the other side, the victim blaming and like even with
Speaker 3: someone like Daphni.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I already know what the meant.
Speaker 3: I don't even have to read the comments because I
Speaker 3: recently saw a video of Daphni and she was like
Speaker 3: in her apartment doing like sexy sexy videos in lingerie
Speaker 3: and shit. So the timing of this couldn't even be
Speaker 3: more worse because now niggas are gonna be like, see,
Speaker 3: this is a whole ar she's you know, it's like
Speaker 3: it's like damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Speaker 1: But also they're also like obsessed with her and like
Speaker 1: look at her and like, you know, put her. I
Speaker 1: don't understand, like do you love the hose or do
Speaker 1: you hate them both? Because when you see the bitches
Speaker 1: you like, sexy bitch do sex, then it's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: she's doing sex, even though I like a sexy bitch,
Speaker 1: dub sexy bitches do sex. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel really bad for her actually, you know, because
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like, hey, she's a
Speaker 3: human number one too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she is a mother and her and her child
Speaker 1: is at.
Speaker 3: The age where like his peers can come up are
Speaker 3: going to come up to him and make fun of
Speaker 3: him like this impacts so much more than like you
Speaker 3: liking and leaving a comment under the picture, like making
Speaker 3: fun of a woman that's going through something like this,
Speaker 3: because if the shoe was on the other foot and
Speaker 3: it was you or your sister or your mother, like
Speaker 3: you would feel differently.
Speaker 1: I was thinking like if I had a this.
Speaker 3: Was me, and like people were like just going to
Speaker 3: look at it just because just because like just out
Speaker 3: of curiosity, maybe not even to talk shit. It just
Speaker 3: is it just feels like a violation, and you know
Speaker 3: this was something that was done, like well what She
Speaker 3: came out and made a statement basically and said that like,
Speaker 3: first of all, the video being recorded she didn't consent to.
Speaker 3: And then I guess another company years ago had tried
Speaker 3: with someone had tried to blackmail her with the video
Speaker 3: they had. They tried to get money from her, She
Speaker 3: wouldn't give it to them, She ended up giving They
Speaker 3: ended up selling it to a company. They reached out
Speaker 3: to her for a comment and then realized it was
Speaker 3: revenge porn and then they backed off of it and
Speaker 3: so they didn't ever post it. And she was saying
Speaker 3: how she was grateful that they they understood that this
Speaker 3: was ethically wrong. And so now that this is coming
Speaker 3: up again, how much emotion it's bringing up for her
Speaker 3: because like she was she was basically not her like
Speaker 3: on drugs during this time with Diddy, like didn't really
Speaker 3: know what was going on. Doesn't recognize who this person
Speaker 3: was at the time and whether or not she she
Speaker 3: was on drugs or not, like even if she was,
Speaker 3: even if it was consented to, this was a private,
Speaker 3: private moment between a fucking adult and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so like we care what they did.
Speaker 3: It's not your job to judge whether she's a sled
Speaker 3: or a whore or whatever. Like all y'all do weird
Speaker 3: shit behind clothes.
Speaker 1: Was plenty of people were doing freaky shit behind closed
Speaker 1: doors or just happen to not be fucking ditty and
Speaker 1: not be have a following. And maybe you're not doing
Speaker 1: it with you don't have enough money to do it
Speaker 1: with the third party or whatever freaking shit there had
Speaker 1: going on over there. But the fact that we are
Speaker 1: openly chastising a woman for having sex with the managers
Speaker 1: dating at the time, and however way you fashion form
Speaker 1: you're doing it, it's just so juvenile. It's like a
Speaker 1: reading high school. Obviously we are Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's it's fucked up.
Speaker 3: I don't know does this does this type of situation
Speaker 3: ever make you feel like not filming, like worry about
Speaker 3: the things that you filmed or if you if they
Speaker 3: were leaked, would you just stand ten toes down in it?
Speaker 3: Because like it's one thing to be like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: did it, I look good. Fuck, But when then like
Speaker 3: the apps, like the attacks, and like I mean, I
Speaker 3: would imagine it would be challenging.
Speaker 1: Women who like I'm just even thinking about Corinne, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like there it's just like it's
Speaker 1: like a scarlet letter. It never goes away. It's like
Speaker 1: you're going to be marked for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: And I see, like I see how that affects women,
Speaker 1: Like how you have to show up with like so
Speaker 1: much guard up and like on defense, and like how
Speaker 1: you feel just like maybe walking into a room not
Speaker 1: knowing who recognizes you and from where if there's whispering
Speaker 1: about you, Like that's a level of fucking anxiety that
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. And like, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I'm famous enough for anybody to pop up
Speaker 1: a video of me. I mean, I just that would be.
Speaker 3: I mean it would have until this, until you did
Speaker 3: something freaky and effort to go viral. It doesn't even
Speaker 3: matter who you are, you just did some freak as
Speaker 3: shit and now it's on the internet.
Speaker 1: Well I think I think that is where a lot
Speaker 1: of my sympathy comes in. Like, I good, seeing I
Speaker 1: didn't run into ditty when I was nineteen, I would
Speaker 1: very well be like, okay, sure whatever. I can totally
Speaker 1: see myself as a thirty and below woman on a
Speaker 1: good Friday. I mean, like, did he invite us to
Speaker 1: the party? Were going? Like, I can see how any
Speaker 1: fucking young woman could get into this scenario. I've probably
Speaker 1: been in, not in this exact form or fashion, in
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. And so I have a
Speaker 1: lot of people and bitches, a lot of people have
Speaker 1: just somewhere shit when you're young and dumb and drunk
Speaker 1: and at a party or whatever the fuck, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't get filmed. But so it's just like I have
Speaker 1: I have sympathy for it because I know how easily
Speaker 1: it is for a nigga and a good night and
Speaker 1: like all types of things to go totally left. And
Speaker 1: then now that one good night is now or whatever
Speaker 1: night is now public for everyone to dissect. Fucking a
Speaker 1: decade later, and let's talk.
Speaker 3: About the time, because the times have changed since, like
Speaker 3: recording videos in two thousand and seven versus recording a
Speaker 3: video in two thousand and fucking twenty six, you know,
Speaker 3: like the speed in which things get discovered, the way
Speaker 3: like just all of it, the way things share pop screwed,
Speaker 3: deep fakes, I mean, weepm. We potentially could have deep
Speaker 3: fakes on the internet. We might be on porn sites
Speaker 3: bitch okay with our faces. Yeah, that's it's very possible.
Speaker 1: So if I have a real whatever comes up, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, that's a deep fake. I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 1: that's not even me. You guys are dumb.
Speaker 3: But like this, this makes me really think about like
Speaker 3: how we talk about this type of stuff with our kids.
Speaker 1: I know, because I realized, like us having this conversation
Speaker 1: with our kids is so much more serious than it
Speaker 1: is than it was for us, because the likelihood of
Speaker 1: us being in fucking four K is very low. But
Speaker 1: with our kids it's like, I mean, even in what's
Speaker 1: the show we were watching with Zosia Forever Forever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when she has that like sex tape, Like it reminded me, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like you make a mistake now in high
Speaker 1: school or junior high the mistakes we are likely making,
Speaker 1: But now there's the possibility of being at a party
Speaker 1: and someone filming it. It takes that to an entire
Speaker 1: different level. So like the seriousness of your sexuality being
Speaker 1: shared as a teenager right now is so different than
Speaker 1: what we experience. And I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: but fucking fourteen to twenty four, I was pouring out
Speaker 1: on a big, large scale just because my hormones were raging.
Speaker 1: And like having to explain that to a kid who
Speaker 1: hasn't like probably fully seen the scope of how detrimental
Speaker 1: this shit could be is like you must listen to me.
Speaker 1: Don't let anyone do anything stupid.
Speaker 3: I know because my mom never had a conversation with
Speaker 3: me about not being filmed, Like that wasn't even a thought.
Speaker 1: Like about like not writing shit down and not taking pictures,
Speaker 1: like don't ever take pictures. You wouldn't want anyone else
Speaker 1: to see my mom. My mom never had I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, granted, my memory is not great, but I
Speaker 3: don't I don't recall my mom ever talking my mom
Speaker 3: was like more so worried about my fucking diary, and
Speaker 3: then it was like my than like my photographic evideny
Speaker 3: and also like I well, I guess I did have
Speaker 3: a phone in sixth grade, but it was like a
Speaker 3: no Kia. It was playing like snake and like barely
Speaker 3: technical track.
Speaker 1: There's no color text. There wasn't even a camera.
Speaker 3: No no, even like I was thinking about in college,
Speaker 3: like the Sidekick that didn't even have a camera either.
Speaker 3: I had the Razor, but the Black even have a camera.
Speaker 3: None of these things had cameras. We had a separate
Speaker 3: we had an actual camera, and then we had a phone.
Speaker 3: So like you know, my mom might have been looking
Speaker 3: through my text message. She probably should have been looking
Speaker 3: through my camera time.
Speaker 1: But then we weren't doing like the era of like
Speaker 1: the selfies, like taking sexy pictures like you were fully clothed.
Speaker 1: I don't remember taking any sexy nudes and sending them
Speaker 1: to anyone in my razor fucking freshman year of college days. No,
Speaker 1: because we weren't so fucking obsessed with ourselves. Yet we're
Speaker 1: in the era of like self obsession, so many fucking selfies.
Speaker 3: The other day I was I went I was outside
Speaker 3: and like I must have caught the light and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I know, I'm gonna take a picture
Speaker 3: of myself. And I'm out on the fucking corner of
Speaker 3: a busy street to take snapping selfies of myself and
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is fucking dumb. I was like, what
Speaker 3: am I doing. I'm like, this is and I still
Speaker 3: did it. And I still did it and asked me
Speaker 3: if I've posted it, No, because it's just I haven't
Speaker 3: a thousand thousand selfies in my phone with not one post.
Speaker 1: The self obsession era is something like that should be studied,
Speaker 1: because I always think about that, like if you could
Speaker 1: go back in time, Like if we could go back
Speaker 1: and place ourselves twenty years in the future and look
Speaker 1: around and be like, what the fuck is everybody doing?
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I look in a room and I'm like
Speaker 1: everyone's looking down at their phones, or like even at
Speaker 1: like a club or a bar, and everyone's like taking pictures,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, can you imagine us coming to the
Speaker 1: future twenty five years ago and being like, what in
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? Like the self obsession has
Speaker 1: increased so consistently on such a high level that we
Speaker 1: didn't realize that we've normalized it. But there was a
Speaker 1: time where people were not in the streets just like
Speaker 1: it's so fucking dumb. It's crazy. Yeah, and it's scary,
Speaker 1: and we do have girls. And the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is a dick slip or a guy fucking on
Speaker 1: camera has nowhere near this same heaviness and the weight
Speaker 1: of a woman at any age, fucking on camera at
Speaker 1: any age. Yeah. No, poor girl, poor baby. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope that you have to be strong to endure
Speaker 1: like this, this society and what they consider like the
Speaker 1: norm of like just disrespecting women, even just this post
Speaker 1: that we posted last week of fucking Sarah Fonton not
Speaker 1: I just the comments are crazy, like we're ran through.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw like the birds or wait, we were
Speaker 1: promoting whole culture. I was like, whole culture. That's new.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that we've promoted whole culture.
Speaker 3: What is the what's the I was waiting for the
Speaker 3: specific quote and then it finally hit. I was waiting
Speaker 3: for a man to say this, and he did, and
Speaker 3: then I was like, I was waiting for you.
Speaker 1: What is it a hit? A hit?
Speaker 3: Dog?
Speaker 1: What is it a hit? Dog will holler, yeah it's
Speaker 1: gonna and I was just you know, or that we're
Speaker 1: ran through. I see that a lot, because you're ran
Speaker 1: through or like also like because no one will wife you.
Speaker 1: And then you know, the other thing is is a
Speaker 1: bunch of mediocre man saying no real men will watch you.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at these bias like, nigga, I would
Speaker 1: never never like, who are you talking to me? Talking?
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Nigga? Like it's always the most uneligible,
Speaker 1: the fucking niggas on the internet talking about no real man,
Speaker 1: no high value man will want you. Well, nigga, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't know. It's so crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, those type of clips really expose the
Speaker 3: men and the hatred they have for women.
Speaker 1: And also really expose women.
Speaker 3: And granted, listen, everyone's allowed to have their own opinion
Speaker 3: around like what they view as as valuable. Everyone has
Speaker 3: their own you know, traumas and triggers around their second
Speaker 3: child and what they wish they would have done better
Speaker 3: and what they wish they knew and maybe they did
Speaker 3: need a sarahont To not yelling at them telling them
Speaker 3: don't fucking do this shit again. I mean, but I
Speaker 3: would say, like I'm I'm generally speaking to the woman
Speaker 3: that is accountable, the woman that is actively trying to
Speaker 3: learn from her actions. I'm not discarding those other women,
Speaker 3: because they matter too, and actually Sarah's discarding them. But
Speaker 3: I will say, like most women that I've had either
Speaker 3: multiple children in one marriage or maybe like had a relation,
Speaker 3: got married young, had a baby, then maybe got married again,
Speaker 3: had another child, it didn't work out. You know, there's
Speaker 3: so many layers to how you become a baby mama
Speaker 3: twice multiple yeah, you know, and it doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: you didn't do the work, and it doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of factors involved, including the man.
Speaker 1: Right. Was there any comments about the men nowhere? You know?
Speaker 3: And I just think, I think what we're really seeing
Speaker 3: is how people do not give a fuck about the
Speaker 3: whole human, the whole version of a woman. They want
Speaker 3: to sequester off these certain parts of us and then
Speaker 3: judge us from there. And the argument that at least
Speaker 3: I was trying to make was just that like there,
Speaker 3: this is so nuanced, Like even the women in the
Speaker 3: comments were like, I'm I was married for like fifteen years,
Speaker 3: I got four kids, and I'm divorced now and I
Speaker 3: got four kids, so it's different.
Speaker 1: Like but that's the thing, like the normalization of the
Speaker 1: word play, like it's the same ship just because she
Speaker 1: had a paper.
Speaker 3: It's just like, how many dicks did you create with?
Speaker 3: It's frivolous with your body, how many dicks did you
Speaker 3: create with?
Speaker 1: You know? How many mistakes did you make? You know?
Speaker 1: And when people are making hell making mistakes every day,
Speaker 1: except now you have this visual representation of how I've
Speaker 1: made a mistake because I have a child to show
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I just like generally the woman
Speaker 3: who I'm speaking about, who is like a self aware
Speaker 3: and like it's learning and trying her best, Like generally
Speaker 3: isn't like isn't so absent minded that they're just out
Speaker 3: here just willy nilly with their fucking pussy Like they've
Speaker 3: either been in love and that person was in love
Speaker 3: with them, have made false promises, or.
Speaker 1: She just didn't work out twice or three times or
Speaker 1: for it just it's life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And I like I've and and be
Speaker 3: And it's true that perhaps as your wife value goes down, Yes,
Speaker 3: because we live in a patriarchal society and it's not
Speaker 3: your wife value goes down in in under the eyes
Speaker 3: of God and fucking Jesus, right, because well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like you you do. But but that's what they're
Speaker 1: all talking to about religion. I said a lot of
Speaker 1: God coming in and according to the Bible, and it's like,
Speaker 1: nowhere the Bible says anything like actually that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Actually no, God actually would say this is a It
Speaker 3: would still love you and say that you're worthy.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, is like you as man,
Speaker 1: if you are Christians like you say you are, and
Speaker 1: that's the common and that's your argument is like, then
Speaker 1: you know that it is not up to you to
Speaker 1: judge anyone, and that God has made all of his
Speaker 1: creations equal. There's no lack of love or worthiness based
Speaker 1: on what you've done. That's literally the message of Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ of Nazareth is that you are his love worthy worthy.
Speaker 1: I know all the Christian songs about worthiness, but but
Speaker 1: this is the problem. And this is what I was like,
Speaker 1: this is why I was so confused that everybody totally
Speaker 1: missed the whole. Like what we're fucking saying is like
Speaker 1: you're talking about wife value. And then she talks about
Speaker 1: like socially, let's be honest, society wise, men prefer women
Speaker 1: with less children, or men prefer women with less baby daddies.
Speaker 1: And it's like when you do that, when you when
Speaker 1: you allow yourself to meet the status quo or like
Speaker 1: appease society, you're appeasing like the social norm, right, but
Speaker 1: you were not acknowledging like society. The social norm is
Speaker 1: like broken, it's super broken. It's it's big yperpetuating. It's
Speaker 1: based in sexism, it's based in patriarchy, it's based in racism. Systematically,
Speaker 1: we live in America, like we live within a system
Speaker 1: that places us at the bottom as black people. So
Speaker 1: when black folks talk about socially or society says that,
Speaker 1: you're not like, this is hall, this has been this
Speaker 1: has been created, this guys. And when people were like
Speaker 1: asking why we're talking about black women because black women
Speaker 1: suffer from these rhetorics.
Speaker 3: And let's and she's talking to black First of all,
Speaker 3: we're all black, her audience is black. I've never heard
Speaker 3: a white bitch ever talking aboutout no fucking sarahont To not.
Speaker 3: So let's be clear, we know who she's talking about
Speaker 3: let's stop acting like we're not talking about black women. Also,
Speaker 3: if you watch the full clip she talks, she's saying
Speaker 3: black women. This was a clip we can only put
Speaker 3: in for sixty seconds, so yes, she is talking about
Speaker 3: black women. And so it's it's just the society. The
Speaker 3: structure was not made for us. And if we keep
Speaker 3: going along with what society says, society also said slavery
Speaker 3: was okay.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. It's like we at some
Speaker 1: point when you see something is wrong just because man said, oh, well,
Speaker 1: a woman sleeps with this many people, it's bad, and
Speaker 1: if a man's this many people, it's good. Because society
Speaker 1: says so, then we could form ourselves over and over
Speaker 1: again to fit these social standards, then no one breaks
Speaker 1: out of them. I am not living my life or
Speaker 1: my pussy's life based on social standards. And to be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm not society. I'm not a normal bitch. So my
Speaker 1: high value men is not a man of the norm.
Speaker 1: I don't want an average nigga that believes average shit
Speaker 1: and believes he could fuck every bitch. And if I
Speaker 1: fucked three niggas, then I'm ran through. Absolutely not if
Speaker 1: you don't have the wherewithal and the fucking intelligence and
Speaker 1: the basic intelligence of humanity and understanding someone in their
Speaker 1: full form. No, my nigga, you're a my dad. You
Speaker 1: were absolutely not be my man because I don't want
Speaker 1: a social status quo as society, nigga. I need you
Speaker 1: to step outside of the box because as a unit,
Speaker 1: we need to be pushing the envelope to something more intelligent.
Speaker 1: And if that is not where you like, that's not
Speaker 1: your mom. I will absolutely not be the bitch for you,
Speaker 1: because you will absolutely be stuck in this mind frame
Speaker 1: that whatever they've built for us socially is acceptable and
Speaker 1: it's just not and I won't accept it. Amen. And
Speaker 1: itch is a term of endearment, So Sarah, if you
Speaker 1: want to come sit on the couch. I call everyone bitches.
Speaker 1: I call I was saying this. I call everyone bitches
Speaker 1: except my mom.
Speaker 3: Literally everyone can get a bitch for me, best friend,
Speaker 3: my non best friend, even my gay best sie. I finally,
Speaker 3: just I finally was like, smash it. I'm sorry I
Speaker 3: keep calling you bitch, but that's because this is my language,
Speaker 3: you know, and bitch is my first language.
Speaker 1: I'm your bitch. I'm like, I know, bitch. Speaking of which,
Speaker 1: Happy Pride Month as a formerly oh my god, you
Speaker 1: just reminded me. I was almost I almost said as
Speaker 1: a formal lesbian, a former lesbian, I fell in love
Speaker 1: over the weekend with a lesbian Yeah, really, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was so cute, but she was like a little
Speaker 1: young soft stud. But I was like, I was in love.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I think have it on video.
Speaker 1: I was like hot, Like do you like guys? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to it, like I'm queer. I was like, real,
Speaker 1: where did you meet this girl? My favorite place in
Speaker 1: the world the Well. Oh god, Eric's making fun of
Speaker 1: me because I want to go to the old school
Speaker 1: club in Hollywood, the Well where they have all the
Speaker 1: good music but maybe some old niggas. But that's not
Speaker 1: Maybe it's only only forty three and up at that place, Erica,
Speaker 1: we're right there.
Speaker 3: You don't want to go to place where you're the
Speaker 3: pyt or not. I'm not forty three, and when i am,
Speaker 3: I don't think i'll be there either.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna write this down because you will, hopefully
Speaker 1: we won't be in the United States, but the well
Speaker 1: is fun. Anyway, I found a young, little hot thing
Speaker 1: at the well and I thought I wasn't paying attention
Speaker 1: to her, and then she started looking at me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, look at this little lesbian looking at me.
Speaker 1: So I started talking to her and then I was
Speaker 1: priming her for my girlfriend status and she was just
Speaker 1: like your wife status, like my mom a little side bitch.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, IoT, like you were gonna tell her your wife.
Speaker 1: I did tell her was a wife. Oh, and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh man. I was like, oh, it's okay. And I
Speaker 1: was just really trying to see where her head was at.
Speaker 1: And then I got got outside in the park and
Speaker 1: I was like, Orlando, I found as a girlfriend. And
Speaker 1: then I was like trying to get her come over.
Speaker 1: But I might have get a little too aggressive so
Speaker 1: she didn't come. But I just want you to know
Speaker 1: that I might be on my way to my new
Speaker 1: lesbian lifestyle. I might be back into month the lb
Speaker 1: LBT is she wait, is it a lesbian or threesome situation?
Speaker 1: Because she likes stick also, or she doesn't like that
Speaker 1: I am married. I can't ever be in a lesbian situation.
Speaker 1: I always have to include my husband okay, Psa, I'm
Speaker 1: not Pollie. We're not open and we're not Polly. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're monogamous. So there's no I can't have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even think I really wanted a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I told her. I was like, I used to be
Speaker 1: a lesbian, but I usually don't feel called. And she's like,
Speaker 1: are you feeling called? And I was like, I'm feeling called,
Speaker 1: and like I gently kissed her at the end of
Speaker 1: the night. She's like, kiss me on my lips, and
Speaker 1: I'll say and then I couldn't wait to get the
Speaker 1: park and I'm like, Orlando, I found it's a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And then she kissed me on my mouth very gently.
Speaker 1: He's like, you fucking bitch. I was like, I had
Speaker 1: to do it this for us, but anyway, I just
Speaker 1: remember it's June, so I'm bringing my pride back out
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know if this carries on until
Speaker 1: next week, maybe all months, you know, all months, you
Speaker 1: know what effort, all months my birthday. I might as
Speaker 1: well get a girlfriend for June. I'll let you know
Speaker 1: if she ever gets unterrified. And she was like, I'm scared.
Speaker 1: I was like why. She was like, I just realized
Speaker 1: who I'm talking to, and I was like, who's that.
Speaker 1: She's like a devourer And.
Speaker 3: I was like, you love a challenge, only you would
Speaker 3: get a fucking stoff soft stud that maybe doesn't like
Speaker 3: dick and try to bring her into your husband.
Speaker 1: Jamaican husband said, she's a beautiful, feminine woman who dresses
Speaker 1: maybe androgynists on Thursdays. But I do like a challenge.
Speaker 1: And also, I mean I might just be like, you know,
Speaker 1: entertained for this week, but it was fun for the moment.
Speaker 3: My friend we were talking about flirting as bisexual women
Speaker 3: and flirting.
Speaker 1: As bisexual women, and she was like, oh my god, girl.
Speaker 3: When we were talking about this the other day, guess
Speaker 3: what I got fed or real by a girl who
Speaker 3: has who does bisexual content and teaches people how to
Speaker 3: be bisexual.
Speaker 1: I was like, what that teaches people? You can have
Speaker 1: call you could be an expert on anything these days.
Speaker 1: She had really good tips over the tips. So first
Speaker 1: of all, she stole the name of our party. It's
Speaker 1: like by the Way podcast or some fucking shit. Okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, all right, now she stole the
Speaker 1: name of our parties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for those who are new here, me and my
Speaker 3: friends were starting a party called by the Way, by
Speaker 3: the Way, La by the Way, New York, and it's
Speaker 3: specifically for bisexual.
Speaker 1: If you're a partner now, but then I'm such, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not even by why either weekend You're bye, I'm
Speaker 1: by You're bye.
Speaker 3: W I like I I you know, I like I
Speaker 3: had like women open on this dating app and they've
Speaker 3: been like messaging me, and I just get so uninterested so.
Speaker 1: Fast that there's just literally not a chance in hell
Speaker 1: it's going to happen on an app. It's just not
Speaker 1: like I really need someone to be aggressive, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm not about to flirt with you.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna aggress you. I'm not about to be
Speaker 3: like courting you in the fucking texts.
Speaker 1: Whitch. No.
Speaker 3: So anyway, in this content that she sent me, step
Speaker 3: one was the obvious like if you are not obvious, like,
Speaker 3: no one's gonna know.
Speaker 1: Like it's not obvious, you're obvious.
Speaker 3: So she said, so it's touch the hand or touch
Speaker 3: the arm, like don't be aggressive, like don't touch your
Speaker 3: face because I was Nearlin yesterday and she was like,
Speaker 3: why can't maybe I just touch her face? Like this,
Speaker 3: and I was like, first of all, but just don't
Speaker 3: like their face touched Nerland, stop, just touch a hand
Speaker 3: maybe like just linger a little bit. Oh and then
Speaker 3: Nearland's sister, who's a lesbian, was like kind of putting
Speaker 3: us on on game and she's like, yeah, you just
Speaker 3: gotta like leave your hand on the arm just one
Speaker 3: second longer.
Speaker 1: Do not Nerolnd's little sister teaching you how to be by.
Speaker 3: Because Nearland wants us to go to Chikea Bonita, maybe
Speaker 3: we should all go. And she keep Neirland's sister's bar
Speaker 3: that she works at, and we have gay bar downtown.
Speaker 3: Oh downtown, Yeah, you need to go there and try
Speaker 3: our lesbian and.
Speaker 1: They have dance, they have like but chata night, they
Speaker 1: have all types of nights they have. Yeah. But when
Speaker 1: I was looking at the content, it just didn't appeal
Speaker 1: to me that lesbians didn't know. I was just like
Speaker 1: it looks cute, Like I'm the esthetic looks cute.
Speaker 3: But the more I'm getting into Pride Month and like
Speaker 3: you know, it's like they're really starting to come out,
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm like going, I'm like hiding.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know that meme like the Simpsons when
Speaker 1: he like disappears into the bush. That's me. You're a
Speaker 1: lesbian until real lesbians show up. Yeah, so that was
Speaker 1: step one. Step two was to join this app called her.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of her? Nomer'm not I'm not lesbian
Speaker 1: enough for this, but okay, well.
Speaker 3: Maybe you are because this is her is for bisexuals,
Speaker 3: so maybe you could. Orlando could find a girl in
Speaker 3: there her. This is not an ad, by the way,
Speaker 3: her number three was Wait, what was the third one?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture
Speaker 1: so I can show you my new girlfriend. I've been
Speaker 1: like texting her like, good morning, how's your day going?
Speaker 1: And Orlando said we could take her on a date.
Speaker 1: So I'm really as soon as she gets her, as
Speaker 1: soon as she gets unscared, it's going to go down. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm totally opposed to being Polly. One week later, finds
Speaker 1: one twenty seven year old. I'm like, maybe she's twenty nine.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But are you not jealous because she
Speaker 3: doesn't really like Dick like that, Like, what's what's the
Speaker 3: what's the thing?
Speaker 1: Because that's always been I'm not really jealous, it's just bitch.
Speaker 3: The amount of time you have called yourself jealous on
Speaker 3: this podcast, and now you're telling you literally said it
Speaker 3: like last week.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about now, you're not jealous. Let
Speaker 1: me be clear, I'm not jealous. I'm I have discernment.
Speaker 1: I am like men and you because you are lesbian,
Speaker 1: you can't see the full scope of everything. I can
Speaker 1: look at a situation and be like, m this is
Speaker 1: the math is not mathing. So if it's someone who's
Speaker 1: around all the time, someone who's my friend, and someone
Speaker 1: who's like I don't have to that is gonna get sticky.
Speaker 1: That's you know, no. But if it's someone that I
Speaker 1: meet with the idea that this is what's going down,
Speaker 1: I don't really fucking know you. We can invite you
Speaker 1: over as we can send you back. It's you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be there for fucking birthday parties and Christmas, then
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm not really jealous. I can as long
Speaker 1: as I want to do it. I'm not jealous. I
Speaker 1: just don't for shit. But but maybe because she is
Speaker 1: isn't like super dick forward that maybe it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more comfortable. Maybe that's it. But also it was
Speaker 1: another I mean all is because I'm attracted to girls
Speaker 1: that are a little bit masked, so it's easy for
Speaker 1: me to be like, yeah, that's because you know why
Speaker 1: I'm not playing this bisexual game with you bitches. I'm
Speaker 1: not fucking lingering. Hey, bitch, do you like me? Let's
Speaker 1: go get in the trunk or the back seat. I
Speaker 1: don't want to convince like the fine the feminine girls
Speaker 1: flirting is confusing. When there's a girl who's obviously a
Speaker 1: little lesbian, then we don't have any We don't have
Speaker 1: any there's nothing, there's no like gray area. We know
Speaker 1: what we're doing. And now that I know that you
Speaker 1: like dick, then I can massage you. I was like,
Speaker 1: want to see my man? Let me show your picture.
Speaker 1: I was in the well showing her picture. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is I'll show you the all of them, but
Speaker 1: later anyway, do you want to drink? So yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually I have a video. You want to see it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me see it. Do you want to see my lesbianism? That? I? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is it? Your face? Why are you judging me, bitch?
Speaker 1: It's because I found a girlfriend. First.
Speaker 3: She looks like a basketball player, one like one that
Speaker 3: you you know, no bitch like she plays.
Speaker 1: Basketball because she's a little lesbian. She plays stereotypical. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of gums. Shut up, give me, give me
Speaker 1: my girlfriend back.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of baby here to cover that forehead. Okay,
Speaker 3: so this is why I can't do girls. I'm too judgmental.
Speaker 1: Why would you talk about her like this? Because sharing
Speaker 1: my life with you and this is how you repay me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry, baby, all right? And then
Speaker 1: I was like feeling up underneath her flannels. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to see what she got underneath that I
Speaker 1: can feel like this is a fatty. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that will do yeap? Is she like like a full
Speaker 1: foot taller than you? Does she make you feel petite?
Speaker 1: She's twenty nine, that's another thing. What did you have
Speaker 1: to do with her fucking height. She came behind me
Speaker 1: and I was like, she's she's a little thing, like
Speaker 1: I don't I need I need a little more meat.
Speaker 1: But whatever, we'll just see what we're gonna do with that.
Speaker 1: I gotta see your naked. I literally told her, I
Speaker 1: got to see you with all these clothes on, because
Speaker 1: I could feel some Does she have an Instagram? Can
Speaker 1: you see I found but you know what, that's the
Speaker 1: thing like I found on Instagram and I'm like, let
Speaker 1: me get off the answer before I stop liking you,
Speaker 1: before it's too like, before I get to where I'm going,
Speaker 1: Let me, my man, let me Why would you not
Speaker 1: want to get to Why would you not want to
Speaker 1: stop before you get to where you're going? Because we're
Speaker 1: women and we're highly critical, and so you want to
Speaker 1: just fuck your way through through it. And no, I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't. I don't need to know
Speaker 1: all your traumas. I don't need to dissect you. I
Speaker 1: just need to see you at night in the red light,
Speaker 1: like I don't need to, Like, we don't need I
Speaker 1: don't need to. Women have this thing where we're like,
Speaker 1: oh god, she's not that confident, Oh god, she's she's gums,
Speaker 1: like bitch, everybody's gums.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm judging women how I judge well, maybe not,
Speaker 3: maybe worse. I'm judging women how I judge men? Like
Speaker 3: why am I gonna give you more grace whether or
Speaker 3: not I'm gonna put my fucking mouth on your pussy?
Speaker 3: I really want to know what if I think you're
Speaker 3: attractive or not. I want to make sure I like
Speaker 3: you before I do all that.
Speaker 1: Just like the same with a guy, I want to
Speaker 1: like you, but also like with women, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: find guy I can get I'm too psychic. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get to know you too fast. I just need I
Speaker 1: needed to like the illusion to stay the same. I
Speaker 1: don't need to like know everything about you, because then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be judging you. Wait, I found Okay, Actually
Speaker 1: I don't want you to look at this. Actually, let
Speaker 1: me just put it on mute. Maybe no, I hate it? Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, it's too hard. Whomen are you? It's women?
Speaker 1: Are you picky? That's the problem, go perfect. I can
Speaker 1: never I can never get to know her until I
Speaker 1: have a podcast. Just in case she listens to this episode.
Speaker 1: Did you know you have a podcast? No, sheouldn't have
Speaker 1: anything about me. Okay, that's good. But now she can
Speaker 1: never know anything about me. She's a little fan. Oh
Speaker 1: she looks cute there. Yeah, she was cute there. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'll keep you guys posted on my lesbian lifestyles that
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm re embarking on. I've been I've been
Speaker 1: brought out of the closet, so well, I'm rescinding them.
Speaker 1: I think you're releasing it. I'm rescinding my I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have I have girls in here, and I'm is
Speaker 1: it on field or is it on her? You got
Speaker 1: you're on her? No, I'm not on her. No, it's
Speaker 1: another app But.
Speaker 3: I showed Sebastian and he was like, ah, she like
Speaker 3: she talked too much, she like she got an opinion
Speaker 3: about everything.
Speaker 1: I could just tell. And then wait.
Speaker 3: Then I Showednirlan and she he was and I showed
Speaker 3: her the picture and she was like, oh, she's cute.
Speaker 3: And then there was this picture and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is the one where she looked like she talked
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: And she was like she like she does much. I
Speaker 1: was like, how the fuck? Why are we both know
Speaker 1: these photos? What in the fucking ladies and gentlemen women
Speaker 1: criticized women observing women is just not good? Why would
Speaker 1: anyone say something like that? What does that even mean?
Speaker 3: She was like, she likes she has a white mom,
Speaker 3: she talks white. And I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: now I want to see this. Now I want to
Speaker 3: see the picture because what the fuck? Wait then wait,
Speaker 3: let me show you this photo because let me tell you,
Speaker 3: this photo, this main photo of her. I didn't realize
Speaker 3: what was happening in it until yesterday. And this me
Speaker 3: and her have been talking for like maybe two weeks,
Speaker 3: like very minimal.
Speaker 1: Are I think lesbian conversations for two weeks? I meet
Speaker 1: one girl on Saturday. I tell you immediately, it's Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm a scorpion. I tell everybody everything.
Speaker 3: And I didn't notice this photo until yesterday when someone
Speaker 3: pointed it out, and I was like, how the fuck
Speaker 3: did I ignore the bottom half of this photo the
Speaker 3: whole time?
Speaker 1: It's her main photo? You ready, Erica, do you see
Speaker 1: the Why is this little dog in here like that?
Speaker 1: Why is that a little puppy?
Speaker 3: Why is she dressed like this is a holiday photo?
Speaker 3: It looks like it's a Christmas holiday photo? And she
Speaker 3: has the tiniest little chi wahwa.
Speaker 1: In the corner. You've been talking to her for two weeks?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: This is this is the one where she said she
Speaker 1: like she has a lot of it page. I don't
Speaker 1: know which the fush out the fuck up? Guys? She know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's true, she does. Is that
Speaker 1: the same woman? I don't know it's the filters, the filters.
Speaker 1: The filters are filtering. Anyway, Yeah, anyway, week seven and
Speaker 1: they and then she says a lot, talks a lot.
Speaker 1: What did she say? She's just it's been a beautiful week,
Speaker 1: hasn't it? Hasn't it? Bitch? I was working all weekend
Speaker 1: and now I'm a happy hour with a friend. You
Speaker 1: know what, But I remember your long weekend. She's just
Speaker 1: asking too many questions. I remember about my single, my singleness.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a lot of chatting. I
Speaker 1: want you to pick me up. I want to go out.
Speaker 1: I want to see you in a human because like
Speaker 1: all the fucking isn't a nice weekend, bitch, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: I need to know in person if I like you,
Speaker 1: so we could stop playing this game. Even the girl,
Speaker 1: even though I did try to bring her home that
Speaker 1: night and she was not with it.
Speaker 3: What I'm realizing with me and women is the spontanet.
Speaker 3: It's a spontaneity, because that's how my first situation happened.
Speaker 3: Like it was like, Okay, I'm gonna give up on
Speaker 3: this earring. It was like very in the moment, like
Speaker 3: it was kind of weird, like I was driving and
Speaker 3: like it was COVID and what do you mean the
Speaker 3: girl that I kind of hud for a while, like
Speaker 3: she COVID.
Speaker 1: Weird things happen. It was a weird time.
Speaker 3: It was a weird time, and I just happened to
Speaker 3: be like in the streets just roaming around. What the
Speaker 3: fuck I was doing because there's nothing was over. It
Speaker 3: was like a rainy, rainy night, and we were like
Speaker 3: we had already been talking in the app and she
Speaker 3: was just like come over and I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: fuck it, Like that's what that's the energy I need.
Speaker 1: I can't do all this fucking non nonsensical talking. You
Speaker 1: just gonna be my homegirl and then I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: over it. I don't want to do all.
Speaker 3: I have twenty thousand homegirls. I don't need another homegirl.
Speaker 1: That's true. If you want to be a bisexual, you
Speaker 1: got to act on it immediately before the But I
Speaker 1: already have friends. You know what, When you're by and
Speaker 1: you like nigga, I feel like a nigger, Like I
Speaker 1: don't need no friends. I don't even neverize if you
Speaker 1: come by my housard too. You know what it is, bitch,
Speaker 1: You know what you know what time it is. I'm
Speaker 1: trying get those panties. Don't try to talk. But I
Speaker 1: feel like you have too much time to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is my homegirl, but if you go straight to
Speaker 1: the pussy, then you're like, no homegirl over here. And
Speaker 1: then but like, I don't want to fucking get to
Speaker 1: know you. You're right, we have too many homegirls. We're
Speaker 1: in chat all day with our homegirls. Yeah, be chatting
Speaker 1: with YouTube bitch.
Speaker 3: I'm literally chatting at the homegirls. I'm chatting with my
Speaker 3: tribe and the discord. I'll like, do was talk to women?
Speaker 3: You think I want to talk to YouTube bitch? No?
Speaker 1: What that mouth do? Just shut up. I told you
Speaker 1: you can't do a lot of talking. God. Am I
Speaker 1: a chauvinistical chauvin bisexual? Maybe?
Speaker 3: Damn I'm toxic a little bit. I'm a toxic Bye Scorpio.
Speaker 3: A toxic Bye is crazy. I know I've felt that, Like,
Speaker 3: am I toxic too? Because I just kind of want
Speaker 3: to Like, she's so young and cute. I just want
Speaker 3: to devour her, and I was like, let her be,
Speaker 3: let her, let her go.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we have a bad choice this week from our discord.
Speaker 1: Bad mom not a bad mom, but a bad mom
Speaker 1: so good I'm bad choice of the week.
Speaker 3: Shout out to our Discord community. If you haven't yet
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Speaker 1: So good morning.
Speaker 3: Not sure how bad this is, but I had someone
Speaker 3: on my podcast recently and we ended up kind of
Speaker 3: developing an unexpected connection. We went out of town last
Speaker 3: week and together and then hung out on my birthday
Speaker 3: last week. He seems so sweet, but then got real
Speaker 3: funny with me when I didn't want to sleep with
Speaker 3: him right away. I haven't had sex in like nine
Speaker 3: months and decided I wasn't going to be very and
Speaker 3: decided I was going to be very intentional about who
Speaker 3: who I let be the next person to share that with.
Speaker 3: And we only hung out twice. I was attracted to
Speaker 3: him but wanted to work up to that. He also
Speaker 3: didn't like how independent I am and that I don't
Speaker 3: need him. Moral of the story is to keep podcast
Speaker 3: guests as guests.
Speaker 1: We've slept with a couple of podcast guests, right have we, Orlando?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I let one even pussy? Oh same mm hm,
Speaker 1: who's a girl? Wait? What else? Wait? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: of any guys. I mean, I had you, did you? Did?
Speaker 1: I had you? Come on? But did the other damn
Speaker 1: bitch just to go through our catalog looking for guests.
Speaker 1: The fuck? Oh yeah, you first of all must have
Speaker 1: not been that directed. It took you five minutes. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh like immediately right, I haven't right, just that one.
Speaker 1: That one they fake let you my pissy you had,
Speaker 1: you had your ex on the you had other ex.
Speaker 1: You had what's his name? Not Wild Bay Adventure bae.
Speaker 1: I don't count. He's not really a guess. Yes, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that was public humiliation. I can't believe he
Speaker 1: did that. You guys, you need to go on Patreon
Speaker 1: to see this. One time, this guy I dated aloud
Speaker 1: he came on Patreon so I could talk about why
Speaker 1: I cheated on him. This is my this is my
Speaker 1: I suggested this and she said yes. I couldn't fucking
Speaker 1: believe it.
Speaker 3: I can't believe he said heyes, what it's dumb as
Speaker 3: I was like, Mila, do you think that maybe you
Speaker 3: guys should talk to this fucking therapist about she was
Speaker 3: a bitch on the internet. She's as much a therapist
Speaker 3: as doctor Fonton's doctor, as much as fucking Shy and
Speaker 3: Brian's a doctor.
Speaker 1: Bitch.
Speaker 3: Okay, she's someone who talks a lot, talked to a
Speaker 3: lot of people, the studier of people. But yeah, Jamila
Speaker 3: cheated on her boyfriend, and then we met this bitch
Speaker 3: on the internet who apparently is a relationship expert who's
Speaker 3: I don't even know if she's ever even really been
Speaker 3: in a relationship that's to be seen or whatever.
Speaker 1: However, she came to my house.
Speaker 3: In my dining room, sat down with Jamila and her boyfriend,
Speaker 3: and I I wasn't even a part of this episode.
Speaker 3: I closed, I left, I closed the door, and they
Speaker 3: had their own private session.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that. I was like, my god, I
Speaker 1: feel like I tucked you guys in and I walked away.
Speaker 1: It was so ridiculous, and I didn't I couldn't say
Speaker 1: that his dick sucked. So the whole time, I'm just
Speaker 1: fucking lollygagging around the reason why I cheated, which is
Speaker 1: like the dick is not dicky, and I just couldn't
Speaker 1: say that. And it was just like there were some
Speaker 1: issues that we addressed, but we didn't. You know what,
Speaker 1: let's put I'm gonna link it here. I'm gonna link
Speaker 1: it in this episode. Y'all have to join Patron. It's
Speaker 1: worth it. It's the five dollars is fucking worth it.
Speaker 1: The fact that Mi Orlando recently, like last year, went
Speaker 1: and looked at it and I was cracking the fuck
Speaker 1: up because my face the whole time was like I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna kill Erica. This bitches not know
Speaker 1: what she's talking about. I'm ambushed. And then she's like
Speaker 1: she was really bashing me for cheating. I was like,
Speaker 1: you don't understand. Wow. We've definitely went through some interesting
Speaker 1: seasons on eight years of podcasting, but there's definitely a
Speaker 1: couple of guests that I think we smashed.
Speaker 3: Sure, I wouldn't recommend don't do don't do ship where
Speaker 3: you work. That's not a good example of shitting where
Speaker 3: you I don't know why they say that.
Speaker 1: Where you sleep, Oh shure, don't shop where you sleep
Speaker 1: like yeah, like where you work, like oh oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1: But why do you say ship because it cause you
Speaker 1: can get into some ship if you do the ship.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: But that's like I'm visioning me on the toilet and
Speaker 1: it's just not said. It's not for you to envision. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's just for you to don't do it. Okay. You
Speaker 1: also don't sleep with people in your building. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: just a good mom tip. That's literally where you sleep. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's never it's never good idea. Although I haven't
Speaker 1: really been good at that.
Speaker 3: I slept with the good I'd made my boyfriend my
Speaker 3: boss who at my internship turned into me my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Have you've had a three like a three way? I'm
Speaker 1: nasee ta with three girls? Hell bitch, No, No, absolutely
Speaker 1: the funck not No. Why would I do that. I
Speaker 1: would only do that if a guy was watching. Okay,
Speaker 1: my eyes allergy.
Speaker 3: No, I have no interest. I don't like women that much.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of vaginas around it.
Speaker 1: I don't really. That's the thing is like I really
Speaker 1: like penis the warm, fleshy, veiny kind. It's just like
Speaker 1: when that girl was like I like I like guys.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you doo, we're in for a treat, baby,
Speaker 1: because there's like lesbianism without any penis is just like instant,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a cup of noodles with no water.
Speaker 3: The other day Brandon, well, this is the Brandon who's
Speaker 3: my gay friend. And oh yeah, that your republican gay friend.
Speaker 1: He is the most I don't know if he's a Republican.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just joking. It's me like conservative, I'm like,
Speaker 1: a conservative gay is always appalls me, Like how the
Speaker 1: fuck are we both guys? He hasn't always been this.
Speaker 1: I love him dearly.
Speaker 3: I do too, but he he I don't know how
Speaker 3: it came up, but he was asking me if whether
Speaker 3: uh I knew like or like knew he was gay
Speaker 3: or like, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, guess he's conservative, and I was like what.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking about this as we're entering into
Speaker 3: Pride month of just like you know, talking to kids about.
Speaker 1: Gay shit and like, you know, how how we do it?
Speaker 1: It's you know, I'm like, I never really did it.
Speaker 1: I just it just is, you know. But I do
Speaker 1: remember that one time we went to, uh where were
Speaker 1: we at?
Speaker 3: We're at some like like flea market and Luna was like,
Speaker 3: why are you dressed like a girl?
Speaker 1: And I was like, why are you wearing that? Because
Speaker 1: he wants to he wants to wear that, because like
Speaker 1: you want to wear that, you can wear that, can
Speaker 1: whatever you want, Like fucking embarrassing me in front of
Speaker 1: my friend. You don't remember who it was? Who wasn't
Speaker 1: it's Joe Exclusive, you know. Joke Scoop is like, if
Speaker 1: you're from LA, you probably know Joe Exclusive. He's like
Speaker 1: a big stylist in LA. And he's been around for
Speaker 1: years and years. Literally since I was in high school.
Speaker 1: I've been seeing him outside, but he always wears like
Speaker 1: dresses and braids. And she's like, why are you wearing
Speaker 1: a dress? I was like, oh my fucking god, this
Speaker 1: is Joke Exclusive. Don't disrespect him to been wearing dresses
Speaker 1: since the nineties. I just like, I've never had the
Speaker 1: gay talk with Iory, Like really, I mean, I've just
Speaker 1: like talked about like my sebashion. His boyfriends have been around.
Speaker 1: I've talked about like, you know, Subash his boyfriends and
Speaker 1: they're in love.
Speaker 3: Like maybe maybe I've mentioned it in passing along the way,
Speaker 3: but I guess.
Speaker 1: It was never like if I did. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: this big moment where I was like, oh, got that
Speaker 1: out of the way, so glad we did that. Like
Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, parents don't understand, Like, first
Speaker 1: of all, if you don't, you really this will only
Speaker 1: really be a big deal if you don't have a
Speaker 1: diverse group of friends. You don't have any gays in
Speaker 1: your group, Like, come on, for diversify. This is big
Speaker 1: problem even if you're like black, like even like having
Speaker 1: one white friend or one black friend, like you need
Speaker 1: to diversify. So certain things you just like come up naturally.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like, not get you a gay friend.
Speaker 1: You do, get you a gay friend so you can
Speaker 1: avoid the gay talk with your child because it's just normal,
Speaker 1: you know. Like and so I said that he could
Speaker 1: wear whatever he wants. You like to wear what you
Speaker 1: want to wear, He could wear what he wants. And
Speaker 1: I told Luna asked me once, who was your boyfriend
Speaker 1: before daddy? And I was like, women, I had girlfriends.
Speaker 1: She was like, you're lesbian? I said, yeah, she was ill.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was it not? Iw I was like, guesh,
Speaker 1: she's not lesbian. She was like oh. And then but
Speaker 1: you know, one time she had like two barbies and
Speaker 1: she was like playing with him, and then she's like stopped, like, mom,
Speaker 1: can can the two barbies be married? I was like, sure,
Speaker 1: you can marry whoever you want. She's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that was it. I was like, that was easy. And
Speaker 1: then recently I told you she was like, my friend
Speaker 1: at school told me she's bisexual. And I was like really,
Speaker 1: She's like she said she was afraid I was gonna
Speaker 1: judge her. I was like, well, did you She was
Speaker 1: like no. I was like, how do you feel. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually I told me her friend's dad. Her
Speaker 3: friend's dad's your friend's dads. Like she's was saying something
Speaker 3: about the dads. But she said it so casually that
Speaker 3: it was like it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 1: You know, like wait, Luna came home and told us
Speaker 1: that one of the girls in the school, one of
Speaker 1: the boys was like, hah, you're gay. And then and
Speaker 1: then the boy goes, the girl goes, my mom's are gay?
Speaker 1: Oh baby? I me and Orlando and let me start
Speaker 1: cracking out. We're like that's the funniest. She was like
Speaker 1: I know, it's kind of funny. She was like, she
Speaker 1: was like, it was so sad. She's like, you guys
Speaker 1: are gay. She's like, my mom's are gay. She was
Speaker 1: like it was kind of funny, but I was like,
Speaker 1: our sense of humor as a household is that was
Speaker 1: probably devastating for that little girl, Lord Jesus being. And
Speaker 1: then also one time Luna came home was like what
Speaker 1: a lesbians mean? And I was like, wow, she's like
Speaker 1: someone called so and so and so and so lesbians
Speaker 1: at school and I was like, it's not even a
Speaker 1: bad word. She's like that's what I thought. So it's
Speaker 1: just I think if you continuously normalize it in your
Speaker 1: lifestyle over a long period of time, but if you
Speaker 1: don't have okay, so what do you do if you don't?
Speaker 1: I don't think but I don't think there's any avoiding
Speaker 1: it now. Like every time I talk to people who
Speaker 1: are kids in school or people who work at schools,
Speaker 1: like my mom, she's like, there's trance kids, there's all
Speaker 1: like I think, I think. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: avoid it.
Speaker 3: I'm more so asking so if you are someone who's
Speaker 3: listening who doesn't have gay friends, like how do you
Speaker 3: have that conversation. How do you open up the conversation
Speaker 3: about you know, same sex love.
Speaker 1: Maybe go to brunch in LeHo, go to drag brunch. Oh,
Speaker 1: just like just initiate them and quick. Yeah. I feel
Speaker 1: like the younger the better, the sooner the better, because
Speaker 1: then they're not like, have you ever seen like a
Speaker 1: small white child who's been in rural white areas like
Speaker 1: see black people for the first time, they're fucking confused. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what's someone who?
Speaker 3: Uh? I don't know if you gonna say it was,
Speaker 3: but we know our kids we went to we went
Speaker 3: to that in Costa Rica and upstairs they were having
Speaker 3: like a drag show and our kids were My daughter
Speaker 3: specifically was in it to win it.
Speaker 1: Luda has been asking me if we could go to
Speaker 1: a dragon fucking.
Speaker 3: Loved that drag show so much and they loved her. Okay,
Speaker 3: they had were spinning her around and shit. And I
Speaker 3: put it on Instagram and someone commented and was like,
Speaker 3: don't you think that's kind of weird?
Speaker 1: Who was that? Was it? Somebody we know? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: And I was like weird about what? Like, what's weird
Speaker 1: about it? Right? What's weird?
Speaker 3: And That's what I'm saying, is like we're the ones
Speaker 3: that make it weird. It's like our kids just see people.
Speaker 1: Dressing up and having fun living your lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it is an opportunity to talk about it
Speaker 3: if especially if your child is not immersed at all
Speaker 3: and doesn't know anything about it. And I think it
Speaker 3: is important because when you do have situations come up,
Speaker 3: like that little girl who was saying, my moms are gay,
Speaker 3: like she probably would have benefited from an ally who
Speaker 3: is able to support her because they understand what that means,
Speaker 3: you know, and and the and not necessarily the weight
Speaker 3: that it carries, but kinda so that they can support
Speaker 3: moments like that. Because there are probably a lot of
Speaker 3: kids and that do have same sex marriage moms that
Speaker 3: that have to face that you know, that have to
Speaker 3: deal with that. And that's why I think it is important,
Speaker 3: especially if you don't have friends around, if you don't
Speaker 3: have you know, gay, gay friends, bisexual friends, people in
Speaker 3: the community around you, that you have those conversations, because
Speaker 3: it's true.
Speaker 1: It is unavoidable. At this point.
Speaker 3: There's like there's young people, young kids, you know, claiming
Speaker 3: their sexuality early, even earlier than ever now. And so
Speaker 3: it's like, it's not something that you wait until high
Speaker 3: school to have this conversation about. It's something that you
Speaker 3: address as early as you can, you know, so that
Speaker 3: it's normal and that your child understands that love looks
Speaker 3: different for everybody. Do you think that exposure Like and
Speaker 3: that's the thing too. And when you said exposure, people
Speaker 3: always think if I expose them to it, then I'm
Speaker 3: making it in the gay like that's.
Speaker 1: Not how gayness works. But but but okay, so like,
Speaker 1: for instance, we uh, there was a guy that we know,
Speaker 1: but he was saying that his daughter, I think this
Speaker 1: is like a while ago at the time, she was
Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen, was coming home saying she was
Speaker 1: trance and I was like, really, like this is a
Speaker 1: part of the language now, and he was like, I've
Speaker 1: seen I've recently looked at his page and she's like
Speaker 1: totally transit. Yeah. So I'm like it's like I also
Speaker 1: my question is is like when you do have exposure
Speaker 1: to certain things really early, is there like Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: you are like a little tomboy, but now you're like
Speaker 1: I'm a boy, Like is it like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you are who you are, But it's
Speaker 1: just it's so, what are you saying. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm asking like that it could be negative, no, negative,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like even when Luna said her little
Speaker 1: friend said she's bisexual, I'm like, well, how do you know, Like,
Speaker 1: at what point does the romantic come in? Because we're
Speaker 1: all friends at fucking the certain age, you just attracted
Speaker 1: to people as people because there isn't a romantic aspect.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, at what point do you accept that
Speaker 1: they know that there could be like a romantic aspect
Speaker 1: to their attraction to people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, I think they at the same time that kids
Speaker 3: start having romantic attraction to any any human you.
Speaker 1: Know, Like shit, that could be as early as five
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 3: There's little girls and little boys that have little crushes
Speaker 3: on each other and it's not necessarily sexual, but it's
Speaker 3: like this emotional high that they have, So you know,
Speaker 3: it's we're humans and we experience that feeling. I think
Speaker 3: at various ages, there's no set age, which is why
Speaker 3: you can't wait until a certain age to have these conversations,
Speaker 3: just like you shouldn't wait till a certain age to
Speaker 3: have the sex talk, like you have age appropriate conversations
Speaker 3: leading up into that point and hopefully you get ahead
Speaker 3: of it and you're not too late, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't know nothing.
Speaker 3: I don't even know necessarily if you could be too early,
Speaker 3: you know, I'd rather be too early than be too late,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think that it's important that
Speaker 3: we educate our children about just all the ways in
Speaker 3: which human's human.
Speaker 1: And it could be like, oh, like, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about this? How do you feel about that? Introduce
Speaker 1: a conversation. I think people like overthink it or wait
Speaker 1: or make it a big deal, and it's just like
Speaker 1: you do know that you could mommy and daddy, mommy
Speaker 1: and mommy. Like people have different structures for their family,
Speaker 1: and as long as there's love and there's respect, and
Speaker 1: that's everybody's allow to love whoever they want to love
Speaker 1: and have a family the way ever they want to
Speaker 1: have a family. I just feel bad for the households
Speaker 1: that have like contradicting beliefs because I think about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, single moms, right, and like maybe they're educating
Speaker 1: their child one way, and then they go over to
Speaker 1: dad's house and he's talking about oh there's a fact,
Speaker 1: doesn't you know. And it's like that's confusing for a child,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: So it's like hopefully you as parents can get on
Speaker 3: the same page about it, but ultimately, like, shit, your
Speaker 3: child's going to make their own decisions at some point.
Speaker 3: But if as long as you like, I feel like
Speaker 3: the educating them around just the different ways that people
Speaker 3: experience love is like, is the way to go.
Speaker 1: It's just like moral and ethical to just teach people
Speaker 1: to love people. I think, like I always till like
Speaker 1: we love people. We're people who love people like that,
Speaker 1: like like just in general, like starting with love and
Speaker 1: like acceptance and like allowing people to do whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do or be who they want to be.
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was someone's at my house this week
Speaker 1: and this guy and he was like he came from
Speaker 1: the South, it is Christian, and that his mom had
Speaker 1: walked on him masturbating, and his mom didn't say anything
Speaker 1: for a long time, but then like a week later,
Speaker 1: his dad was like washing disism was like, don't be
Speaker 1: touching yourself, that's gay, hes and don't be over there
Speaker 1: touching yourself is gay. He's like for three months, I
Speaker 1: thought I was gay because I was touching myself and
Speaker 1: I was like looking at my homeboys, like damn, he
Speaker 1: can't play basketball. Good, No, I'm not gay for him. No, No,
Speaker 1: he was like he's like I literally was thinking I'm
Speaker 1: gay because my dad told me if I masturbate, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking gay. And for three months he was like spent.
Speaker 1: And then one time in the supermarket and a girl
Speaker 1: walk by and now and he was like, Nope, not gay,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like like children sometimes are literally that
Speaker 1: black and white, so like be careful of the things
Speaker 1: that you say. The detrimental things are like boys don't cry,
Speaker 1: or like man up, or like, oh I saw something.
Speaker 1: This girl that I follow I think I un followed
Speaker 1: her because it's pissed me off. And she had a
Speaker 1: little boy whose legs were crossed because her legs were crossed,
Speaker 1: and she was like, don't cross legs like that, like
Speaker 1: only mommy does that. That's feminine and the boy has
Speaker 1: to be like four or five, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: didn't like that, Like I don't know, like I don't
Speaker 1: have a I don't have a son. Do you say that,
Speaker 1: like because he's mimicking, you'd be like, no, boys don't
Speaker 1: cross their legs like that, Like that's feminine? Do you
Speaker 1: say that or is like is that a part of
Speaker 1: like I don't know, or do you just let the
Speaker 1: little boy cross his legs and then he'll figure out
Speaker 1: his own, But I don't know. I was just like
Speaker 1: that made me uncomfortable that you would even like plant
Speaker 1: that seed of like a certain way you hold your
Speaker 1: fucking body is feminine or masculine. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: I guess that's like something we haven't experiences. We don't
Speaker 1: have boys, but it's like you have to be really
Speaker 1: conscious of the little things that you plant that could
Speaker 1: really confuse a child because it is so nuanced and
Speaker 1: like I think especially with boys crying being like affectionate
Speaker 1: with other boys, like the choice in color, right, you
Speaker 1: can't repeat choose the wrong color, Like shit could get weird, right,
Speaker 1: you know? Like what are we teaching our kids instead
Speaker 1: of just like exist? So yeah, just just shug your
Speaker 1: kids love and acceptance and that they can do what
Speaker 1: they want, so that it's not associated with it being
Speaker 1: feminine or masculine. It's just associated with them being themselves.
Speaker 1: Because I think we have this like the gender norms
Speaker 1: that we've created, especially in Western society, have created people
Speaker 1: who are like not in tune with themselves, are prohibiting
Speaker 1: being like themselves, from being themselves because they're afraid it's
Speaker 1: going to come off as to this or to that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, there's probably hell of
Speaker 1: boys who are eccentric and dance a ful and want
Speaker 1: to wear eccentric clothes, and obviously, like the gender norms
Speaker 1: are breaking down as we get older, and we're like,
Speaker 1: I see that doesn't exist, which is cool, but like
Speaker 1: you don't want to prohibit someone's creativity and who they
Speaker 1: are and their actual masculinity because they are so busy
Speaker 1: being concerned about showing up feminine because Daddy said, if
Speaker 1: I do this, I'm gay. You know, Like maybe the
Speaker 1: nig is just a designer, you know, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like these things we placed on people, I
Speaker 1: think actually sometimes prevents them, like adds more confusion than necessary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, shout out to the gay moms, Shout out
Speaker 3: to the gay dads, Shout out to the gay aunties.
Speaker 1: And the gay uncles. It's your month.
Speaker 3: Go off, be gay as hell, Go see the kids,
Speaker 3: Go tell them about your love. The interest to speak, Okay,
Speaker 3: stop hiding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also I.
Speaker 3: Went I went into the moms listening who have a
Speaker 3: gay uncle, like a gay brother or a gay auntie,
Speaker 3: and you've been hiding your fucking you've been asking your
Speaker 3: your brothers and sisters to keep their shit away from
Speaker 3: your kids.
Speaker 1: Fucking stop that shits.
Speaker 3: Not that shit, because you have opportunity, You have get
Speaker 3: people in your own family that can really help you
Speaker 3: with this conversation as well. Like you know, like I
Speaker 3: feel like we were waiting on the perfect time to
Speaker 3: introduce our our kids to like these said people, when
Speaker 3: a lot of these said people are literally already in
Speaker 3: our in our families and around and like kind of
Speaker 3: kind of like minimuming themselves or for your comfort. So
Speaker 3: if you're someone that is like asked of that from
Speaker 3: someone in your family, I want to encourage you to
Speaker 3: reconsider that because that's just not fair. You're you're asking
Speaker 3: them to not show.
Speaker 1: Up in for what to like not hold a boyfriend's hand,
Speaker 1: or they're like, what are you protecting your kid from
Speaker 1: like the world, because guess what's happening either way, baby,
Speaker 1: But the all types of varieties of people. Yeah, So yeah, allow,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's just a bigger conversation is
Speaker 1: to allowing your kids to see the full spectrum of
Speaker 1: people and how they actually exist. Like it's not a
Speaker 1: bad thing. It's not like it just is moms be gay.
Speaker 1: Mom's be gay, Dad's be gay. Good moms be gay.
Speaker 1: It's still up there, ish goo, mom's be gaysh mom's
Speaker 1: besh ish mom's be gayish. I don't know. Twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: we're we're trying to see what our percentage is right now,
Speaker 1: it's probably looking like forty nine percent. I was feeling
Speaker 1: a lot higher up until this month than I got
Speaker 1: scared with that, with your with your love interest over there,
Speaker 1: they even talk to you for two weeks now.
Speaker 3: Like leading up into this moment, I thought like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I could tap back into this, and then as I'm
Speaker 3: into it, I'm just I don't know, just be more direct.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the fucking's bisexual. What can I say?
Speaker 1: I have a pillow prints that shown is bisexual, and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You know, if you're into that,
Speaker 1: damn me. You know, slide into my DMS direct. If
Speaker 1: you don't want to do a lot of talking, but
Speaker 1: you want to do a lot of eye fucking and flirting.
Speaker 1: Then we got the lesbians for you. It's us. Do
Speaker 1: you like a little dick? Orlando was not to be
Speaker 1: considered with, not to be confused with a little, just
Speaker 1: a big Do you like one big dick? You don't
Speaker 1: have to like them all. We could just split this one.
Speaker 1: It's plenty to go around. I'm gonna really test my
Speaker 1: my jealousy theory as soon as my girlfriend comes over.
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys know. Curs.
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all know how many times this bits called herself
Speaker 3: jealous in the long schemes of this long and never
Speaker 3: ending eight year season.
Speaker 1: I take it back. I'm not jealous. I'm open. I'm
Speaker 1: totally cool and I'm open.
Speaker 3: Ah an affirmation good mom's be gay, But I think
Speaker 3: that was last year's affirmation.
Speaker 1: Teach your kids about gay people. No, teach your kids
Speaker 1: about gay people. Now. It doesn't wrong to talk mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Gay moms matter, Gay moms matter? Is it lesbian moms?
Speaker 1: Lesbian moms matter? Gay people matter. Normalize same sex love
Speaker 1: in front of your kids. It's okay to be you're
Speaker 1: it's okay to be gay, It's okay to be gay.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be gay. Literally, it is okay to
Speaker 1: be gay. It's good to be gay. It's good to
Speaker 1: be gay. And also this is really for the men
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of suppression. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: gay suppression that is like really actually hurting the women
Speaker 1: because the guys who don't feel like they can be
Speaker 1: openly gay and do gay shit secretly. Then in the
Speaker 1: morning when they wake up and they hate themselves because
Speaker 1: they did some shit that they liked, they come and
Speaker 1: they hate women, and it's really fucking up the whole game.
Speaker 2: So just be gay, Amen, gonna do a card Okay,
Speaker 2: terror time. The Three of Pentacles.
Speaker 1: I feel like we pulled this recently. Am I triple?
Speaker 1: The three of Pentacles? The three of Pentacles? Hmmm? Teamwork, collaboration, learning, implementation.
Speaker 1: The stone mason couldn't build the cathedral without the help
Speaker 1: of the architects, and they couldn't build it without him.
Speaker 1: Each person has an important role to play, and when
Speaker 1: they come together as a team, they can create something
Speaker 1: much more significant than if they were to undertake the
Speaker 1: project on their own. So when the Three of Pinnacles
Speaker 1: turns up in the tarial reading, take it as a
Speaker 1: sign to collaborate with others, creating synergies to archive to
Speaker 1: achieve big results. The three of pinnacles represents the value
Speaker 1: of different ideas and levels of experience and collaboration chetypes.
Speaker 1: The architects respect the specialized knowledge of the stone mason
Speaker 1: and the stone mason. The stone mason appreciates the experience
Speaker 1: of the architects, even though their backgrounds, experience levels, and
Speaker 1: expertise are very different. Like I'm an expert lesbian and
Speaker 1: Erica is a beginner lesbian.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even call I'm not going to disrespect the
Speaker 3: gay community this way. I am not any sort of lesbian.
Speaker 1: Well, I am an expert. Even though their backgrounds, experience level,
Speaker 1: and expertise are very different, they can come together to
Speaker 1: share their insight in a way that creates synergy and
Speaker 1: improves the finished product. There is no us and them
Speaker 1: or any sense of superiority. Instead, we're all gay. Got
Speaker 1: it perfect?
Speaker 3: It was really lovely. Well, thank you for that welcome.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for joining us. This very gay talk.
Speaker 3: It's very gay Wednesday. We hate a very gay Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: And just look at all just look at the captions
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