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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of news over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, a very violent and tragic series of events and

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Speaker 1: going to be defining this news cycle today. The terrorist

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Speaker 1: attack in Bondai Beach in Australia on a Honuka celebration

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Speaker 1: targeting Jewish Australians. We'll discuss what happened there, the government's

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Speaker 1: response to it, and what it tells us about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the issues that immediately come up, gun control, immigration, all

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Speaker 1: of it. Also an ambush on US soldiers in Syria.

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Speaker 1: Isis aligned here or al Qaeda aligned. I'll take a

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Speaker 1: look at what the specific designation is here shortly, but

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Speaker 1: jiehattis there we go. They killed two American soldiers and

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Speaker 1: a US interpreter. Also so was shooting on Brown University campus,

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Speaker 1: an Ivy League institution in Newport, Rhode Island. Brown University

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Speaker 1: obviously in shock after the fatal shooting on their campus.

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Speaker 1: And then another story that just broke in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours, the very celebrated, widely known director Rob

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Speaker 1: Reiner and his wife Michelle were found murdered in their

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles home. With their throats slit, and it is

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Speaker 1: alleged that this was their son who had a mental

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Speaker 1: health crisis and mental health challenges. We'll discuss that as well.

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Speaker 1: There's reaction to that pouring in a lot of you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if you even hear the filmography that Rob

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Speaker 1: Reiner is responsible for. Yes, he had very left wing politics,

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Speaker 1: but he was a human being. He was a dad,

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Speaker 1: he was a husband and made some great movies, made

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Speaker 1: some great movies. So we'll discuss all the aspects of

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Speaker 1: this as it as it comes up in just a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But first, Clay, I was watching the Bondai

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Speaker 1: beach attack footage all throughout the weekend and I have.

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Speaker 2: To tell you it's particularly frustrating.

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Speaker 1: And I spent much of Saturday at the gun range

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Speaker 1: with my friend Shermichael Singleton, and we were just going

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Speaker 1: through tactical drills. And this is something that we do

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Speaker 1: mostly as of course a hobby, as a as a

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Speaker 1: sportsman's exercise, but it's also in case of need. It's

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Speaker 1: also training so that we are prepared and if you

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Speaker 1: have a situation like what unfolded in Bandai or what

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Speaker 1: happened on October seventh, I'm ready to go. Sure, Michael

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Speaker 1: is too in every sense, armed and trained. And I

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Speaker 1: bring it up just because when you watch the law

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Speaker 1: enforcement response in Bondai, it was very reminiscent of what

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Speaker 1: we saw in uvall day officers on the scene. You

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Speaker 1: had two a father and son team of Muslim jihatists

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Speaker 1: shooting up Jews. So I think the motive here is

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Speaker 1: quite obvious, quite clear. We don't have to spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. We may never know the motive. No, Clay,

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Speaker 1: we know the motive. We know right away. Hatred of Jews,

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism, jihattists, trying to kill Jews and anybody else

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Speaker 1: who was in the vicinity as well. They were shooting anyone,

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Speaker 1: but they targeted this Honika celebration thinking it would have

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Speaker 1: a preponderance of Jewish Australians, as it did. And here

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Speaker 1: is one of the observers, Clay, of this saying that

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Speaker 1: for twenty minutes, look, you know, fog of war a

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Speaker 1: couple minutes. You got to get on the scene. You

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Speaker 1: gotta know what's going on. You got to see you

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Speaker 1: don't want to hit any civilians. Fine, twenty minutes. For

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes, the cops lined up in Australia. This is

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Speaker 1: cut twelve and did nothing. Listen to this eyewitness, Can

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Speaker 1: you tell me what happens?

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Speaker 3: Two shooters, one on the bridge, one under the bridge,

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Speaker 3: just out of shoot. So twenty minutes they should should

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Speaker 2: See punderstand. Twenty minutes was four pm.

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Speaker 3: There nobody give fire back, nothing cruse that could It

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Speaker 3: looked like twenty minutes and they should the guy change magazine.

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Speaker 3: I look at him all the time. I was with

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Speaker 3: two of my babies under me, and I look at

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Speaker 3: and just should.

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Speaker 2: And should play.

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Speaker 1: The Australian version is not better when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the ability to defend yourself. The Australian laws on this,

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Speaker 1: and I can get into the details. Leave you disarmed,

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Speaker 1: the police actually aren't going to defend us either. There

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Speaker 1: was one brave, unarmed civilian who tackled and disarmed one

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Speaker 1: of the attackers. But I couldn't stop reading about it.

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Speaker 1: I can't stop examining it because I think, Buck, it

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Speaker 1: is just evidence of you and I and many of

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Speaker 1: us out there understanding this before. Frankly, huge parts of

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Speaker 4: This was a father son duo. You've got a young

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Speaker 4: guy that you're raising. Now, I've got a seventeen, fifteen,

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Speaker 4: and eleven year old boys. For those of us out

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Speaker 4: who are granddads raising young men, this young man was

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Speaker 4: raised to kill Jews. I can't even comprehend Buck, the idea.

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Speaker 4: You think about all the things that fathers and sons

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Speaker 4: share in Western civilization, in a world that values in

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Speaker 4: and raises them into strong father figures. This was a

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Speaker 4: present dad in the household who raised his son to

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Speaker 4: go murder fifteen innocent Jewish people, starting at the age

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Speaker 4: of ten. I think these victims all the way up

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Speaker 4: to around eighty and the guns that they had, Buck,

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Speaker 4: this was them treating Jews as target practice. They were

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Speaker 4: legally able to have these six guns, according to what

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Speaker 4: I read, even though many guns have been banned. This

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Speaker 4: guy with a twenty four year old the son was

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Speaker 4: on some form of watch list out there, Buck, but

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Speaker 4: it I've been to Bondai Beach. I was there two

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, two years ago, almost to this exact time.

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Speaker 4: I took my family, we made the walk there Sydney.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful place to have this attack happen and

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Speaker 4: to have none of the police or and you mentioned

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Speaker 4: you've all day and there. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 4: most public place out there, Buck. This would be like

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to see this like Samtage Clay. This really

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Speaker 4: hits home. This is a huge beach tourist destination. That's

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Speaker 4: like a wordiology. So imagine where you are at South Beach,

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Speaker 4: somebody walking around for twenty minutes just picking out uh,

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Speaker 4: and there's no police response or anything. It's a failure

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Speaker 4: of Australian society to me, from top to bottom, on

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Speaker 4: every level. This was so predictable, Buck. In Sydney and

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Speaker 4: inn at Melbourne, we have seen the number of anti

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Speaker 4: Semitic incidents triple and quadruple since October seven, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: This was self evident that something like this was going

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Speaker 1: I actually crunched some of the numbers just so we

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Speaker 1: could have a facts of facts laid in conversation about this,

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Speaker 1: and I've been familiar with Australia's gun laws for a

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Speaker 1: long time. Australia had a mandatory gun buyback. Oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I meant Providence, Rhode Island is where Brown

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Speaker 1: University is, not Newport, Rhode Island.

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Speaker 2: Pardon me.

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Speaker 1: Australia had a mandatory buyback program after I believe it

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Speaker 1: was a school shooting in Tasmania, the Island of Tasmania.

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Speaker 1: Team correct me if I'm wrong on that one. They

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Speaker 1: had a horrific school shooting in Tasmania and then they

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Speaker 1: did a mandatory buyback program. Is anyone to guess, are

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Speaker 1: there are there more or fewer guns in Australian hands

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Speaker 1: now than before the buy back? The answer is there's

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Speaker 1: about twenty five or thirty percent more than before the buyback.

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Speaker 1: So the buyback program didn't actually mean there are less

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Speaker 1: guns in civilian hands in the first place. So when

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Speaker 1: a low crime rate because of the buy back, No,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. Australia has had a low crime rate

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Speaker 2: Has not been dealing with.

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Speaker 1: The importation of third world foreigners on the same scale

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Speaker 1: as some other countries that have seen their crime rates

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Speaker 1: markedly increase as a result of it. Europe is a

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Speaker 1: very good example, specifically with Muslim refugee immigrants. You start

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Speaker 1: rates crimes in Australia Clay over the last decade. Does

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Speaker 1: anyone want to guess as the Muslim immigrant population of

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Speaker 1: this country from remember from war torn countries? Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: not people from Kuwait arriving in a private jet as

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Speaker 1: the immigrants. They're not kids who are studying at LSC

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Speaker 1: we're talking about talking about people that come from Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: a war torn Middle Eastern country. And they've had every

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Speaker 1: in Australia, and we're not supposed to notice, You're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to think that the worst sexual assault rate that

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Speaker 1: they've ever had since they carried statistics coinciding directly with

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Speaker 1: the importation of refugees has anything to do with anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, how long do we want to continue to do well? Clay.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately you listen to the you know, the Labor MP

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Speaker 1: in Australia here Lola McAvoy saying, the real problem here

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Speaker 1: is all the Islamophobia that's going to come out of this.

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Speaker 1: It's we need to detoxify how we think about diversity.

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Speaker 2: Play nine.

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Speaker 5: I think it's important to note that so the escalation

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Speaker 5: of this narrative of who were against and how much

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Speaker 5: we we want to divide each other and how much

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Speaker 5: we want to attack each other, that is really at

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Speaker 5: the core of a lot of the problems that we

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Speaker 5: want to say that as much as possible, we should

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Speaker 5: try and detoxify the way that we think of people

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Speaker 5: who aren't like us, because our diversity in this country

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Speaker 5: is our strength. And I firmly am on the side

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Speaker 5: of working together and celebrating our difference.

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Speaker 2: Clay.

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Speaker 1: A mass shooting of Jews by crazed Muslims in Australia

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Speaker 1: and what we need is a lecture on diversity and

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Speaker 1: how the real problem is the as homophobia that comes

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Speaker 2: That's a member of Parliament in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, diversity is not our strength because again this was

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Speaker 4: care about what happens in Australia. I hear this quite

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Speaker 4: a bit. I only care about America. The battle that's

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Speaker 4: going on right now for Western civilization is worldwide, and

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Speaker 4: they have the people who want to drag us back

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Speaker 4: into the Middle Ages. They've made a calculated attempt to

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Speaker 4: take advantage of lax immigration laws and frankly, of toxic

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Speaker 4: that were built on Western civilization and try to slowly

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Speaker 4: they can start to take over many of these European

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Speaker 4: countries and turn them into assets for Islam. This is

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Speaker 4: the truth, okay, and I'm not trying to paint with

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Speaker 4: a broad brush. But in the immediate aftermath of fifteen

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Speaker 4: innocent Jews being slaughtered on the first day of Hanukkah

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Speaker 4: at the most popular beach, probably in all of Australia,

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Speaker 4: one of the top tourist attractions, I'm sorry. I'm not

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Speaker 4: concerned about Islamophobia in the least. And Buck, let me

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Speaker 4: mention this because I do think it's significant. When I

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Speaker 4: member of parliament. I guess she's weighing in on the

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Speaker 4: Australia whatever. It's the same, you know, the same country.

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Speaker 4: One's got kangaroos, same I well, I think also it

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Speaker 2: So we're talking.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting Australia is on the other side of the globe,

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Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is that their gun grabbing

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Speaker 1: Okay, So as a as a gun owner who, in

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Speaker 1: Did jihadiser get guns too?

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean that it should still be happening at all.

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Speaker 4: And again, this whole idea that diversity is our strength,

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Speaker 4: I think it's one of the biggest lies we've all

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Speaker 4: been told. If you don't have a root relationship and

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Speaker 4: endorsement of Western civilization, then actually you're not showing up

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Speaker 4: to strengthen Western civilization any way, You're showing up to

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Speaker 4: destroy it. And again being afraid to condemn radical Islamic

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Speaker 4: fundamental terrorism because you're worried that you might offend people

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Speaker 4: who are Muslim that are not radical terrorists. That to

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Speaker 4: me is just a further example of toxic empathy that's

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Speaker 4: being taken advantage of. I mean, in theory buck, this

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Speaker 4: twenty four year old should have been this is the

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Speaker 4: argument right, that he should have been accultivated and embraced

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Speaker 4: inside of Australian society such that he would never grow

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Speaker 4: up and be willing to go out and kill innocent

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Speaker 4: people because of their religious faith. Yet whatever Australia provided

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Speaker 4: as a basis to counteract this toxicity did not work,

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Speaker 4: and so this father came to Australia, took advantage of

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Speaker 4: all of the advantages of Australian life and raised his

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Speaker 4: son to grow up and be a murderer and be

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Speaker 4: willing to give his life. And this is important. You

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Speaker 4: know it because you studied and have been involved here.

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Speaker 4: This is in their mind. This father had raised his

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Speaker 4: son to be a hero. His son is a martyr.

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Speaker 4: This is the bravest, most extraordinary act that he could

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Speaker 4: have created for his son to engage in.

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Speaker 1: And what you're talking about, Clay, also is something that

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Speaker 1: is a context that has been lost. I've seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of people on the right, unfortunately prominent voices embracing

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Speaker 1: the plight of the Palestinians as though they're this it's

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Speaker 1: specifically in Gaza, this innocent society of people that is

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Speaker 1: being beaten up on by these big bad Israelis uh.

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Speaker 1: And that just shows an extreme ignorance of the reality

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Speaker 1: of what a Hamas ruled Gaza was like. It was

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Speaker 1: a terrorist state. They teach little kids in school, there's

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Speaker 1: videos of this, you can see. They teach little kids

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Speaker 1: in school they want to go out and kill the Jews.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a top down societal hatred that

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Speaker 1: is inculcated in the Muslims of Gaza against the Jews

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Speaker 1: and against anybody who stands with them, and that existed

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Speaker 1: before October seventh. That has existed for decades. Some people

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Speaker 1: will say it has existed for many centuries now, but

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Speaker 1: that's a reality.

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Speaker 2: That's what goes on.

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Speaker 1: This is why people who have spent time either studying

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Speaker 1: or even meeting with, say Palestinians who have lost children

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Speaker 1: to jihadism by being suicide bombers, meaning that their kids

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Speaker 1: decided to be suicide bombers. Palestinian parents celebrate this. They

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Speaker 1: celebrate this like imagine a school shooter and in this

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Speaker 1: country and you go, we'll talk about the Browns shooting

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Speaker 1: in a little bit, and you were to go and

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Speaker 1: sit with that family, and the family said, yes, this

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Speaker 1: is what I raised my son to do, to go

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Speaker 1: into a school and shoot as many innocent people as

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Speaker 1: possible because he hated them and I hate them. That

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Speaker 1: is Palestinian society today in Gaza, unfortunately, or rather it

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Speaker 1: was whatever's left of Gaza.

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Speaker 2: That is the truth.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people on the right who don't

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Speaker 1: really know a damn thing about the Middle East have

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Speaker 1: seemed to have lost this and talk about how terrible

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Speaker 1: it is that there's a genocide in Gaza. There was

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Speaker 1: no genocide in Gaza. There was also no starvation in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: Those were lies, and the virus of jihadism, which many

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Speaker 1: of us saw up close in personal in the GWAT,

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Speaker 1: is making a comeback. It never really went away. But

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Speaker 1: you will see more of this and it's going to

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Speaker 1: raise questions Clay, exactly like what you were talking about

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Speaker 1: a moment ago. Are people who are Jihatis compatible with

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Speaker 1: Western civilization that ideology?

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Speaker 2: No they are not.

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Speaker 1: Are Islamists people who believe in Islam as a vehicle

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Speaker 1: for politics in Western democracies, Are they compatible with Western civilization?

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Speaker 2: No they are not.

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Speaker 1: So diversity is very much not our strength when you

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Speaker 1: have people who are Muslims who think that Islamic faith

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Speaker 1: should be something that is used to govern and that

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Speaker 1: they should use the democratic process to put Islamic principles

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Speaker 1: to work. That is Islamism. And this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a big problem in Europe and it's going to

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Speaker 1: increasingly be a problem here unless we start to change

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Speaker 1: the way we do our immigration system, whereby we take

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Speaker 1: in people who adopt our system want to be like us,

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Speaker 1: the American people, not want to bring their version of

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Speaker 1: something else here and then spread that.

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Speaker 4: And these are real conversations that should be had. And

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Speaker 4: if you think that what just happened at Bondai Beach

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Speaker 4: is not going to happen here, we fortunately have reports

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Speaker 4: that there was a major Muslim tarror attack that was

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Speaker 4: scheduled to happen in LA and thankfully we were able

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Speaker 4: to keep that from happening. But I think you worked

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Speaker 4: in this world, Buck, it feels to me like absolute

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Speaker 4: certainty that something similar to what happened in Bondi will

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Speaker 4: be happening in the United States in who knows exactly

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Speaker 4: what the horizon will be, but at some point in

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Speaker 4: unfortunately the relatively near future. I would say that generally,

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Speaker 4: and we have the evidence to prove this, are cops

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Speaker 4: overall and overwhelmingly are like the cops that showed up

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Speaker 4: that day at Covington. Remember we saw that video and

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Speaker 4: they just went room to room in that house, clearing

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Speaker 4: it with their M four's, and they eliminated the threat.

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Speaker 1: That's that's most of our cops. That's a vast majority

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Speaker 1: of our cops. So I think that at least is

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Speaker 1: different here. We still have something now. It does bring

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Speaker 1: up also the gender differences among law enforcement officers, because

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Speaker 1: there were a bunch of female cops in Australia who

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Speaker 1: were cowering behind their vehicles and they were armed and

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Speaker 1: they did nothing.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I think. That's an important conversation too.

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Speaker 4: I would also point this out, they haven't had a

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Speaker 4: mass shooting in thirty years. How much training do they

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Speaker 4: actually do to respond to outing?

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Speaker 1: These cops couldn't These cops couldn't hit the broadside of

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Speaker 1: a bar and Clay, I can tell you that right offhand,

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Speaker 1: the ones that showed up in Australia. We have cops

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Speaker 1: in this country. I mean, you know, I live in

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Speaker 1: Miami Beach. Just to keep bringing it back to another

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Speaker 1: beach community where something of this could happen. Our police

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Speaker 1: response time here is under two minutes for felts. And

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Speaker 1: I know the cops that are on the force here,

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Speaker 1: and I know some of the guys from the squad here,

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Speaker 1: and they can shoot, and if they show up, they're

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Speaker 1: going to shoot. In fact, there was a hostage incident

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Speaker 1: here about a year or two ago where a guy

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Speaker 1: took a woman hostage in a store and put a

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Speaker 1: knife to her neck. Miaby Beach police showed up, eliminated

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Speaker 1: the threat, took him out with a headshot. So that

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Speaker 1: is different the UK Australia, they are trained to not shoot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even a lethal force situations. God forbid, you have to

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Speaker 1: shoot a Muslim guy running around with a hatchet chopping

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Speaker 1: people up, You're gonna have your career iceed for the

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Speaker 1: next six years while they try to figure out if

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Speaker 1: you were right.

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Speaker 4: And I know it's tough to watch, but I encourage

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Speaker 4: you to watch that video again.

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Speaker 2: This is open air.

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Speaker 4: This is running around at one of the most public,

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Speaker 4: famous places in all of Australia. It's South Beach in Miami.

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Speaker 4: It's Santa Monica Peer basically in La Right, a place

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Speaker 4: that if you go to those cities, you go to

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Speaker 4: that beach area because it is iconic and well known.

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Speaker 4: And these guys were allowed to run around with impunity

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Speaker 4: for over ten minutes killing innocent people. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: just unacceptable on every front. But the big picture question

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Speaker 4: that I think has to be addressed is Western civilization

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Speaker 4: is under attack and we are bringing people into Western

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Speaker 4: civilized countries that are not compatible with the values that

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Speaker 4: have made these countries the greatest in the history of

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Speaker 4: the world, and we have to understand that we are

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Speaker 4: being taken advantage of.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred and two A two two at A two

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Speaker 4: will continue to update you much less serious.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually this directly ties in.

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Speaker 4: Let me switch the read that I was going to do,

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Speaker 4: because it's perfect right now. Some are calling the Bondai

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Speaker 4: Beach terror attack Australia's October seventh. People were out celebrating

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Speaker 4: the beginning of Hanik at one of the most iconic

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Speaker 4: beaches in the country prior to the attack. Social media

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Speaker 4: videos circulated online people singing, eating, laughing, and enjoying time

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Speaker 4: with family and friends. Videos have eerie similarities to the

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Speaker 4: footage played from the Nova festival before all hell broke

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate

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Speaker 4: all of you out there hanging out with us, and

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Speaker 4: there are a lot of people who want to weigh in.

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Speaker 2: As you might imagine.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Jim in Boston because he's again it's

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Speaker 4: sliding under the radar. If the shooting in Bondai had

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Speaker 4: not been the only if it had been, if it

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Speaker 4: had not occurred, everybody would be talking about Brown and

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Speaker 4: Jim and Boston, the shooting at Brown University. Jim and

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Speaker 4: Boston has a good question.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I was wondering if during the press conference people

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Speaker 8: were asking all these different types of questions and no

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Speaker 8: one ever asked the questions, especially in the press. Did

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Speaker 8: anyone shoot back at him?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for coming up on the edge.

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Speaker 4: I thought he wanted to know more details, and I

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Speaker 4: do think we need to jump into this in an

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Speaker 4: hour two buck, I believe they said there are eight

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Speaker 4: hundred cameras on Brown University's campus. How is it possible

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Speaker 4: for someone to come into a school building kill two people?

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Speaker 4: And we'll tell you We now are getting the names

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Speaker 4: of those two people. The manhunt is ongoing. They had

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Speaker 4: the wrong gun, correct? How is it possible that someone

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Speaker 4: could go into a campus building, fire as many shots,

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Speaker 4: kill two people wound I think nine, get out of

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Speaker 4: the building, leave the campus, and no one has any

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Speaker 4: idea who the guy is. And they went and potentially

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Speaker 4: detained the wrong guy. We'll get into that. We'll update

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Speaker 4: you on the awful story about Rob Reiner and his

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Speaker 4: wife Michelle being up murdered by their son.

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Speaker 2: All that to come. Tough weekend of news Neck