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Speaker 1: that temperature check, he'll be in there. So the bookmakers

429
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,959
Speaker 1: are hanging that line because they don't want any more

430
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 1: exposure to that Colts number. Um they got they probably

431
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: got hit hard when the CDC came out in the

432
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 1: NFL changes are ruling on that one and a half. Whatever,

433
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: they're hanging that colds number. They're they're just gonna play

434
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: it safe and they'll just leave it up there for now.

435
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: So for me, if you missed that one a half

436
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 1: two and a half of the Colts, I'd wait, just

437
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,239
Speaker 1: wait until you know Carson's back. I would not be

438
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 1: betting that, betting real money on this rookie quarterback at

439
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 1: this point. So just keep waiting. You already missed the

440
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: best of the number that there's not much you can

441
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: do with it now. Alright, So we talked a lot

442
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: about the Washington football team, but we should you know,

443
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: we made it. We talked a lot about it on

444
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday too. It was our Foxhole bet. It was at

445
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: plus four. We loved it. Then Overreaction Special of the Week. Right,

446
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Washington football team that just got destroyed.

447
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: We're talking about an Eagles team that really struggles in

448
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: the first half. Stucky uh and Raybon talking on the

449
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: Action Network podcast this morning, had a great stat teams

450
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: that don't cover by more than twenty eight points. I

451
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 1: they were blown the funk out like the Washington football

452
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: team was this past weekends Dallas six and five against

453
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: the spread. Since two thousand three, bookmakers just bank on

454
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 1: public overreactions. Everyone in Vegas loves this game. You mentioned it.

455
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: You got calls from eight different groups that love this game,

456
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 1: washing and a football team bang it again. I try

457
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: to tell people a time, a lot of these groups

458
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: are calling me because they want me to make bets

459
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: for them in New Jersey. That's honestly why a lot

460
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: of these guys reach out to me. It's just there

461
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: might be two books that take professional money in Vegas,

462
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,479
Speaker 1: New Jersey. It's easy to spread it out. I mean,

463
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: you can get a thousand down on twenty different books.

464
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: That's a twenty k bet. Instead of really popping up

465
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: on these books radars, you're gonna spread it out. So

466
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: that's a lot of the reason a lot of these

467
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: guys are calling me talking talking about Washington is just

468
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: they're trying to get that four. That that that was

469
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. A lot of people reaching out because

470
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: they wanted that plus four. So the that's a good number.

471
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: By stuck in them, I bet you it goes even

472
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: higher in divisional matchups. Um. But the biggest thing is

473
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: just Washington has a great run defense up front, and

474
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: we've seen it with Hurts. He's inconsistent. The public's gonna

475
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: keep coming on this this Eagle's number. That should be

476
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: a big warning sign to people that's already come back

477
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: down again. Some off shore books have this down to three.

478
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: That's a huge, huge red flag of people the best

479
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: that's a percent of the money is coming in on

480
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the line has now moved the full

481
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: point from four down to three. That's that's a big sign,

482
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: a big winning sign not to be taking the Eagles.

483
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: So as we sit here, if this line is three

484
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: and a half in our contest, how do we not

485
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: making one of our five? I agree? I'm with you man.

486
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Titans game, though I'm skipping over

487
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Ravens. We talked a little bit

488
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: about it. Too much, too much stuff, we don't know.

489
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: We just just for clarity. We both like the Falcons

490
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: as big dogs against the Bills. Market is kind of

491
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: in agreement with us only in that it moved from

492
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: like sixteen to fourteen and is basically wavered between fourteen

493
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: and fourteen and a half. Titans have not moved. There

494
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: are three and a half against the Dolphins. Everybody who's

495
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: professional likes the Titans this week. Yeah, you saw it.

496
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: Though you did see a little bit of movement. It

497
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: came down to three. So some pro group on Miami

498
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: they moved it. Then way more money came back in

499
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: on Tennessee and went, we're right back up. And it

500
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: might have moved just for couple of hours and it

501
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: was shot back up three and a half. You know

502
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: more better than me, Like, I don't, I know stuck

503
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: he hates Miami. I'm sure he's all over this Tennessee.

504
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: His his simple reason. It's just gonna be what a

505
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are looking at. It's like Miami hasn't

506
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: been anyone on this one streak. Who are they to,

507
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, be under six points against the Tennessee team

508
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: that has been proven has been beating good teams while injured.

509
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean they were beating teams while they had key

510
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: guys out. Now they're gonna allow these key guys back.

511
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, what's your scrutual lepics. So you

512
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: already love it, You're already in on it, Tennessee. If

513
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: you're getting under four, under five, it's a great number.

514
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: You have to take it and just live with the result.

515
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: It's this number should be six. Um. Maybe the bookmakers

516
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: are kind of lanter trap here, and I'm walking into it.

517
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: The fact that so much public money has come in

518
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: on Miami and some pro money and they moved it down,

519
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I means there is someone betting that other side, which

520
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: makes me feel better because if it was eight of

521
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: the money apes on the tickets on Tennessee, yeah, I

522
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: might have to be like, okay, we need to take

523
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: a step back. We might be walking in the one.

524
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: It's not that kind of describancy. It's pretty even across

525
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: the board, so I it could be the public we're

526
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: riding with here, but I got no issue with that.

527
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: I just like that Tennessee number. I think it's a

528
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: smart number. Remember the Titans, Baby, the Vikings, and the Packers.

529
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: So I mentioned that Scooch is going to come on later,

530
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: the originator of the Scooch roulette game. He's gonna make

531
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: a Scooch re let pick. It may or may not

532
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: involve this game. We love the Vikings here. Big balls

533
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: better the week, Big balls better the week. So much

534
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: pushback from our followers, Oh my god, I get it.

535
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: People hate betting Kirk in prime time. We know we

536
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: have to take this number. It's so implay. I think

537
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: those prime time There are systems that matter, that have

538
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: data sets that are huge. There are gimmicks. This feels

539
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: like a fucking gimmick. It is glaring though, I I want,

540
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: I gotta look it up because that people keep posting it.

541
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: But I think it was like two and nine against

542
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: the spread in primetime games, something crazy like that. But

543
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: it's too much. It's too big of a number in

544
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: a matchup, and especially with Green Bay. Is the public darling,

545
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: we we knew. I'm on some chalk this week. I'm

546
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I've actually flipped from the Cardinals to

547
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'm on the Cowboys now. Um, the more

548
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: tape I've watched, the more I have numbers I've looked

549
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: into this one. I haven't changed. If anything, I feel

550
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: even better about my posiness on the Vikings. The fact

551
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: that Dalvin Cook is now back for this Vikings team.

552
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: His run style is perfect for a matchup against the

553
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: green Bay run defense. They hate running backs with speed

554
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: and power that go up the middle. That's one of

555
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: the worst things they're at the defending green Bay this year.

556
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Dalvin Cook does. He is a man

557
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: with speed and power, so looking at this across the board.

558
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: Chad just talked about it. It moved up to seven.

559
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: Grabbed that seven if you can. I'm worried about by

560
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: the time you're here this, we'll be back on a

561
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: six and a half, which still is fine. I'm I'll

562
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: have you taking a six and a half. Just a

563
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: proverset shows game. Like Chad talked about it, it's a

564
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: primetime game. Everyone all their all their money line parlay's,

565
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: all their teasers, everything's gonna end Sunday night tied to

566
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: this game. We're getting to three points of value just

567
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: because of that. The bookmakers they had to pump this lineup,

568
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: just you know, factoring all that money coming in on

569
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: those money on parlays and teasers. So as long as

570
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: you're getting six and a half, I still love this number.

571
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Why did you flip on the Cardinals and the Cowboys?

572
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Like that was a game that you know, it was

573
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: at five and a half on Tuesday, it's at four

574
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and a half now I think I'm not sure, Like,

575
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: is it because the number moved down a little bit

576
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: like it was it was? It should have been a

577
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: three or three and a half. Anyways, I honestly looked

578
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: through it. It's just the issues. Let me correct myself

579
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: though I'm seeing it at six now. So it went

580
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: down and came back up again. I talked to a

581
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: couple of pros who liked Alas and that maybe you

582
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: had me start wavering. But it was when I went

583
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: back and looked at the numbers, looked at the film.

584
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: Him on Kyler on third down since he's come back

585
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: from his injury. If you just take Hopkins out on

586
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: his third down place, it's crazy how reliant he is

587
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: on his own legs and Connor. And I know Connor

588
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: is supposed to be back this week for them at

589
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: running back for Arizona. That's a big deal for them.

590
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: But they've they've they've put too much on Kyler. They've

591
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: put too much on the shoulders of a guy who

592
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: he just isn't right. He's not making the right reads.

593
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't have his speed right now. Like that that

594
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: guy catching him against the Colts from behind. I was

595
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: shocked by that. Kyler looked like he was gonna break

596
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: away running for a touchdown. He got a call from behind,

597
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: which is very rare for him. So I I hate

598
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: taking the tralk, I really do. And it's like painful

599
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: to do, especially with the Cowboys that I said that

600
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: this line is over in flay with the Cowboys just

601
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: because they've been covering Machine and the books know that

602
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: they can't take the public keep winning. You know, a

603
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: guy I a bookmaker, really talked to the other night

604
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: said their biggest liability for this coming weekend is the

605
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: Dallas Green Bay teasers. He says, every single person coming

606
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: and done two team teasers. He says, it's like ten

607
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: to one the money compared to the next closest teasers.

608
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: So it's rare for me to take the trunk like

609
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I am. But with this Cowboys matchup, it's who do

610
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: I trust more on key downs, third downs have consistent

611
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: good drives. It's the Cowboys right now. I've seen it

612
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: from them the last couple of weeks. I try to

613
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: go against him because I thought Dak was banged up

614
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: and he had him in playing well. Even with that,

615
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter if you can run the ball

616
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: with Pollard and zeke Eli against this really banged up

617
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: front of the Cardinals, it doesn't really matter what that's

618
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: gonna be doing. So it's rare, Like you said, I

619
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: don't really flip to a talk favorite, but I did

620
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: in this case. Is there a number you wouldn't bet

621
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: it at, Like it's already at six, that's it. Like six,

622
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I'd still take it at six, But once it hit

623
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: six and a half seven, I'm off of it, all right.

624
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: The last game, I gotta talk about the Steelers and

625
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Browns are three and a half point favorites.

626
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: We love the Steelers at three and a half in

627
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: this spot. That is your Scooter Roulette pick. I found

628
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: my notes. By the way, Uh, that's your scrupule let pick.

629
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I know why. It makes total sense. We loved it

630
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: so fucked um. I got a couple gotta get some

631
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: pushback on this. Obviously, some pros they like the Browns

632
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: in this position. I just have to look beyond just

633
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: the numbers on paper. Again, it was Tom Win coming

634
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: home after an embarrassing loss, coming home to play you know,

635
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: a Browns team that they had a close loss last

636
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: weekdndstre But they weren't really that embarrassed. I mean there,

637
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: they're a hungry team. Pittsburgh. This is it. This is

638
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: literally their season. This is Ben Roethlisberger's last home game.

639
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Apparently of his career, Like he said, he told a

640
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: couple report He's not gonna say it's his last game,

641
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Speaker 1: but he think, he says, he's pretty sure this is

642
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Speaker 1: it for him. I had to put all that emotion

643
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Speaker 1: into this line. I can't just be a robot and

644
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Speaker 1: just look at this and be like, oh, this line

645
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Speaker 1: should be three. The Browns are better tell on the

646
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Speaker 1: paper and maybe I'll just take the Browns here. No,

647
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Speaker 1: when when I made this line, I made a minus

648
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Speaker 1: one for the Pittsburgh. I still think I'm getting four

649
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: and a half points of value. I'll still take Pittsburgh.

650
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Speaker 1: I know it's me the public side. They're a public dog.

651
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Speaker 1: Please don't talk to me about more victories. Are that

652
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Speaker 1: be disrespectful to those guys in the room. Maybe some

653
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Speaker 1: pro groups coming on the Cleveland. That's why they've kept

654
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Speaker 1: it this way. But how it was positive, by today

655
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Speaker 1: it would be down to three. And the fact that

656
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Speaker 1: it's still three and a half little scary, little scary

657
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Speaker 1: um because the bookmakers are not doing this any favorites.

658
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Speaker 1: They don't want to give us an extra hook for free.

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Speaker 1: They want you to pay for that hook. They want

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Speaker 1: to move to three and make some sucker pay minus

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Speaker 1: to buy the hook up. So it is interesting that

662
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Speaker 1: line hasn't moved, but nothing's changed. I'm still betting it.

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Speaker 1: I've still bet it every day this week Ben Alsberger's

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Speaker 1: last home game. Tomlin that defense, ra Ra, Let's go

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Speaker 1: what ra Ra? Mike Tomlin spot. I haven't heard anything

666
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Speaker 1: that we've discussed. I haven't seen anything in the line

667
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: moves the past couple of days that makes me feel

668
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Speaker 1: differently about what we're thinking about for Sunday, Chiefs minus

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Speaker 1: five love its Steelers plus three and a half. Nervous

670
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Speaker 1: but still like it tightens minus three and a half.

671
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I want to marry it. Washington Football Team. If you

672
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Speaker 1: can get it plus four, it pops back up great.

673
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Speaker 1: Plus three and a half is still good. That is

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Speaker 1: the game that every wise guy is circling. It is

675
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Speaker 1: a big pros Joe's game. Big bets on the UH

676
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: side of the Eagles, big money on the side of

677
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: the football team and the Titans minus three and a half?

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: What Steelers, Titans vikes Washington Football Team? Chiefs, Yeah, and

679
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: again we might shuffle one in there, like maybe I'll

680
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: convinced Chad if something comes Sunday. But I love those five.

681
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: I bet all those five multiple times. It's just there's very,

682
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: very little that will change from now until then unless

683
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Speaker 1: some COVID news breaks out. Like again, if pat Patrick

684
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Speaker 1: Mahomes is out for this game, yes, I'm buying out

685
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Speaker 1: in my Chiefs position. But you know, if all these

686
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Speaker 1: guys pass their COVID test, nothing's gonna change here. I

687
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Speaker 1: have bet all those games plus Atlanta plus fourteen and

688
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Speaker 1: uh Baltimore plus four are immediately regretful. Simon, we did

689
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Speaker 1: our big balls reminder, our foxhol was the Washington football team,

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: Simon says, with Pittsburgh Foxhil was Washington football team, big

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Speaker 1: balls better the week we just did Minnesota Vikings. Should

692
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: we run through our round robin? Yeah, let's do it

693
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Speaker 1: round robin? This alright, tricky, right, Yeah, It's it's tough

694
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Speaker 1: because there's teams I can see covering as these dogs,

695
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: but I just can't see them winning out right, Like,

696
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: I bet a little bit on the Minnesota Vikings money line.

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00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is like eleven and O or

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Speaker 1: twelve and oh at Lambeau in December, You're not really

699
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Speaker 1: getting great value taking Minnesota's money line against that kind

700
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Speaker 1: of number. But you got the big balls and you

701
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Speaker 1: want to bet with me, I'll be taking them in

702
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Speaker 1: my amount of money line round Robin, let's get gross,

703
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: Buddy shocked the world gross. How can we not take

704
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta's moneyline against the Bills. That's a huge number. Don't

705
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: feel good about it. It's like it's either then were

706
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: the Jets. I honestly I feel better about taking Atlanta.

707
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: We're in Atlanta Falcons podcast. We are, and you just

708
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: need you need to throw in some big lvy dogs

709
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: in this thing. It's just to pay out so so nice.

710
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: It's like again, I'm kicking myself from missing out on

711
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Speaker 1: Houston last week. Like that plus five. God, you love

712
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: to take those, all right, So we got Atlanta, Minnesota.

713
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Speaker 1: Minnesota are not taking Washington. Washington football team, the Bengals.

714
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: People can say what they want. I'm all way and

715
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: see if it's Teddy Covers Denver members up a six

716
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: and a half at this point, maybe the bookmakers know

717
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna be Teddy. I have we're sitting

718
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: here on Thursday. If it comes today morning, it's Teddy.

719
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Speaker 1: I guarantee people, this will be one of my five

720
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: and to cap it off Houston, they're playing against the

721
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Speaker 1: rookie and tray Lands shock the world. Davis Mills went

722
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Speaker 1: back to back plus five hundred as a dog for us. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm pretty sure when I saw it before

724
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: we came on. They're probably the biggest public dog this week,

725
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: right Houston. It's it's terrifying, but we have to do it.

726
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: It's it's Trey Lance making a start here. Let's fade

727
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: it and try to get try to get lucky two

728
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: weeks in a row and have this Houston team. Uh,

729
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: it is gross. But as you've said, Davis Mills, he

730
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: might be better than Trevor Lawrence right now. That's fact.

731
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Speaker 1: And if you don't mind waiting Forest Pittsburgh, I've add

732
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and all my money line round Robins. It's just

733
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like wait until Monday night.

734
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Speaker 1: And you also mentioned Texas the biggest public dog this

735
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: week of the bets on the Texans right now. Yeah,

736
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Speaker 1: they might be dead that that might be dead on arrival,

737
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: but d o A, yeah, that's you don't want to

738
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Speaker 1: you do not want to be hearing that when you

739
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: take a big dog, that's never a good side at

740
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: this point in the season, is there is it worth

741
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: doing a Survivor? Is there anything left? I've had a

742
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: couple of people reach out, but it's like less than

743
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: one percent of our fan base. I would say, trust

744
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: what guy you here. I'll throw something out Sunday morning

745
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: about what my numbers are saying the value is for

746
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: the survivor. But I don't know, because I just don't

747
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna have at this point, Like, what

748
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: do you have left possible at this point? Yeah? So

749
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: to me, if there's teams you've been saving, just like

750
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: the bullet and ticket, if you've been saving the Buccaneers

751
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: for this matchup against the Jets, yeah, any given Sunday,

752
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: weird chick can happen. But I mean, how do you

753
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: not take the Bucks. If you've been saving him this

754
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: whole season for this Jets matchup, you have to take it.

755
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: So I would say at this point, stop saving, stop

756
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: playing ahead. Just get through the week and get to

757
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: the final week. You have two weeks left for the

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00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Survivor contest. Just take the good teams. You've got nothing

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Speaker 1: to save for. We've done all we can do. We've

760
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: done the sharp calls, We've given the five picks that

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Speaker 1: we still love. Washington Football Team plus three and a half,

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Speaker 1: Bikes plus seven, even six and a half, Titans minus

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Speaker 1: three and a half, Steelers plus three and a half,

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Speaker 1: Chieps minus five. We will evaluate these on Sunday. Watch

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you for inviting me back on

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Speaker 1: the show. And I didn't realize how much I missed this.

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Speaker 1: we could have been the new Three Amigos. Simon. Let's

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Speaker 1: say hello to Bob Scucci. Hello Bob, and there's still

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Speaker 1: That's that's pretty tending. Boy. I gotta consider that. Well, well, Simon,

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Speaker 1: on the show. Listen, we're thrilled you're on. It's the

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850
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: and different than than we imagined it. I mean, the

851
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: different players involved in everything. But in Las Vegas we

852
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: benefited just as much as all the other states that

853
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: have legalized sports betting around the country. So No, to

854
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: answer the question, I never would have envisioned it as

855
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: as massive and as big and as popular as it is.

856
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: Uh exceeded all my expectations. Scoot, you are the bookmaker

857
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: of the world. At least you always were. I have

858
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: a follow up question of what you just said, which

859
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: is you and I obviously we've known each other for

860
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: more than twenty years. Like when we started doing this

861
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: podcast together, it was because when I wrote The Odds,

862
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: when I reported The Odds, it was about the guys

863
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: at the start ust were you one of the bookmakers,

864
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: and you told the best stories and had the best

865
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: way of translating what was happening behind the counter for

866
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: the common man. Ten years ago, eleven years ago, I

867
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: was in Vegas. I was doing a story for East

868
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: six D and ESPN, and I said to you, what

869
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: happens if it becomes legal? And you said, it's like

870
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: Disney World. People will do it in their state and

871
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: then they want to come to Nevada and experience it

872
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: for real. So you say, it's different than how you

873
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: imagined it. What did you imagine it would be? I

874
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: remember that vividly. I compared gambling to kind of your

875
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: local amusement park with a roller coaster and introducing people

876
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: to the amusement park and then eventually they want to

877
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: go to Disney World. But um, that was really before, uh,

878
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: the the explosion of mobile and online wagering. That's really

879
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: the part that has exploded even more so than retail.

880
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: So it's different than just opening up a retail sports

881
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: book physical sports book in in a casino or racetrack

882
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: or or an arena. The online business is really where

883
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: all all the money is and all the explosion is.

884
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: What about in game? Remember we talked about that all

885
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: the time too, and you were trying to figure out

886
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: is it gonna matter, what's it gonna be? It was

887
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: huge in Europe. I remember you once made fun of

888
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: me for thinking it was such a big deal. Yeah,

889
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: it's still I mean, it's still growing. And uh, that's

890
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: probably another area I underestimate. It Probably didn't see as

891
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: much value in football as there is because of the

892
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: fast pace of the game, and I thought maybe people

893
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: would be too engrossed in watching the game to kind

894
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: of move away to start betting during the game on

895
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: specific props. And I think to some extent that's still true.

896
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: I think because most of the in game wagering is

897
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: still on just who's gonna win the game and the total,

898
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: whether the total is gonna go over or under, So

899
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the hundreds of different prop that you know,

900
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: we now offer, I still think the majority is just

901
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: who's gonna win the game. We've seen sports books now

902
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: about to really not just fully upgrade their sports books.

903
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: They're really I mean they're doing amazing stuff now, especially

904
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: in Vegas. We've got sports books are outdoor pool bars

905
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: and big screens and everything like that. Where do you

906
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: see it going in ten years? Like? Is it going

907
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: to keep getting even bigger and more glamorous? Are we

908
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a two billion dollar month for Las Vegas?

909
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Like these things don't feel like they're that far off,

910
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, five ten years away. There's no plateau ng

911
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: in the UH in the growing of sports betting. I mean,

912
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: even during the pandemic. I mean we've had two of

913
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: the biggest years in terms of gross sports bets in

914
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: Nevada during the pandemic one and and you hit the

915
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: nail on the head with kind of the immersive experience

916
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: of sports betting. It's more than just placing a bet

917
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: and that's it. You have kind of the whole experience.

918
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: We the traditional sports book in Las Vegas from twenty

919
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: years ago, this giant, cavernous place enclosed with screens and seats,

920
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of going away and being replaced with kind

921
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: of a lounge kind of uh an experience where you

922
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: could come with your buddies and and have food and drink,

923
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: watch the game, make bets. It's kind of this whole

924
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: fluid area where it's kind of an open space part

925
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: of the casino or part of the arena, or part

926
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: of the racetrack wherever the retail betting is. So I

927
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: think we have just keep transitioning. People are receiving it

928
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: very well, and we're getting more and more people that

929
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: didn't make wagers before, so we're expanding the demographics. Scooch,

930
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: you're a big executive at Boy Gaming. Uh, it's why

931
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: you stopped doing the podcast is because your job was

932
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: changing and you felt like you weren't as connected to

933
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: the games, and you weren't making lines, and you know,

934
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: you weren't sort of part of the day to day

935
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: process of making the numbers. How much do you miss

936
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: making the numbers? That's the part I missed the absolute most.

937
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding you know. We've partnered with

938
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: with fan Duel for uh our non Nevada sports books,

939
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: So we have twenty sports books now across seven states,

940
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: and we leverage the you know, the FanDuel trading team,

941
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: the Flutter trading team, and I talked with those guys

942
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: all the time. That's the part that I miss, And

943
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: there's just this excitement even when I talk about it,

944
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: and we when I when I meet with those guys

945
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: and I talked with the trading team, I'm like, you know,

946
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: that's the part I miss. And they even realize it

947
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: because they say, boy, your eyes just light up and

948
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: you seem like so excited when you talk about this.

949
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: I mean, there's an excitement into the new area of

950
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm looking at, you know, strategic partnerships

951
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: and moving into new states and I'm dealing with legislators

952
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: and regulators and all the new states, and that's new

953
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: and that's different. But the bookmaking is is exciting. That's

954
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: really I mean, that's what kept me in the business

955
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: all these years, and that's really the part I missed

956
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: the most. How often when you're talking to you and Fandol,

957
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: who is our sponsor by the way, and this is

958
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: just coincidence, you're talking to the trading team, you know

959
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: that they're using all this analysis, all this math, all

960
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: these algorithms, and you're coming in just knowing it instinctively

961
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: what it should be. How often are you on the

962
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: same side or the same, like, how close are the

963
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: numbers when you guys are sort of having these conversations

964
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: between what you know of when you can do it

965
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: with a pencil and paper and three consultants, versus what

966
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: they're doing with millions of billions of dollars in algorithms.

967
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: They're really close, especially in the major in the major sports,

968
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking NFL, they're right there, you know

969
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: where where I can't be involved as much as you know,

970
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: all the other sports. I mean, we're booking more sports

971
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: than we've ever booked before, so you can't. It can't

972
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: be in tune to everything. But as far as the

973
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, NFL and a lot of the major college

974
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: football games, uh, right there. I still have the ability

975
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: to change what is being recommended or what's being sent

976
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: by buy a particular data feed, so I can detach

977
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: from that feed, and I do more and more rarely now.

978
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: But you know, Super Bowl and some of the big

979
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: games where you do want to have a position, we

980
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: still do that. You sound like a fucking sellout. I

981
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: just simply don't have the time to do it for

982
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: on every on every game. I mean it's when you're

983
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: across twenty sports books in seven different states. You have

984
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: to have a trading team of you know, a hundred people.

985
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: You keep hiring hiring, hiring, or you know, you you

986
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: leverage what's already out there, so it's being more efficient.

987
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: But I always wondered, you're you're working never really end,

988
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: especially when you were a bookmaker. Ore times when you

989
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: would go home, and a lot of professionals like me,

990
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: we like betting from midnight to three am in Vegas.

991
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: That's our favorite time to come and make bets. How

992
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: many times have you been woken up and people ask

993
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: you can we take this guy's money? Some random guy

994
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: just walked in. You've seen the little buzz which again

995
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: it's an act. A lot of us will walk in

996
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: there were acting we're a little drunk. We'll make big

997
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: bets just to get the bookmakers to take our money.

998
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: How many times have you been woking up on those

999
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: phone calls Saturday night, some guys trying to make some

1000
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: big bet for someday morning football games. I would keep

1001
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: my phone next to the bed and and just wait.

1002
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of a very restless sleep,

1003
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: especially Friday Saturday nights before the big games, and just

1004
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: wait and just wait for the phone, and you knew

1005
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: it was going to ring, So it was it was

1006
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: basically every weekend and all the time. And to that

1007
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: extent even now, because we now across all the states

1008
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: that we're in. We'll have a guy that wants to

1009
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: bet two million on a on a particular college football game,

1010
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: or three million or or something that's ten to one.

1011
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: It wants a better million that pays ten million. I'll

1012
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: get the call, and then you have to make a

1013
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: decision like right away in some instances, and so you

1014
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: have to always be available. And I'm still to that extent,

1015
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm still doing that. It's less and less frequent because

1016
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: the size of the wagers that require my my call

1017
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: are much greater, but but I'm still doing that. So

1018
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: that that Simon, that's a phenomenal question, you know, Scooch.

1019
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: Back then, if someone's calling you and it's about the

1020
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: stardust or whatever, it's fifty times or it's a hundred grand,

1021
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: and now you're saying it could be multiple millions, but

1022
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: you still got to do the same calculus in your

1023
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: head in the middle of the night when you're just

1024
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: waking up, how are you determining what are the questions

1025
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: you're asking to decide, all right, we're willing to take

1026
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: this better not. The first one is is he getting

1027
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: a good line? Is he is he taking advantage of

1028
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: a real good line? Or is it pretty solid? If

1029
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: it's a three everywhere in the country, I feel pretty

1030
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: good about taking the bet. If we're at two and

1031
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: a half, we let's say we just went to two

1032
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: and a half and everyone else in the country is

1033
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: at three, or it's a stale line, or maybe we

1034
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: didn't move it quick enough something like that, I'd be

1035
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: less inclined. And then who who's making the wager? Is

1036
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: it a celebrity, is it somebody like you know? Is

1037
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: it one of the well known billionaires that like to

1038
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: make wagers? You know? So who it is, what the

1039
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: line is? Those are the major factors. And the added

1040
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: factor that I have to consider now is the property

1041
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: at which the bets being taken, Because you can't think

1042
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: of it as just as global operation where all the

1043
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: money goes into one pool. Whatever casino is taking the bed.

1044
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: If it's a retail cash wager, then that casino is

1045
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: on the hook. So in some instances it could be

1046
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: a really small casino that only does maybe five or

1047
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: ten million a year in Ibadah, and you're taking a

1048
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: bet that's gonna wipe out the profits for the entire

1049
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: year on that casino. Well, then we have to kind

1050
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: of come up with an alternate plan there. Maybe we

1051
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: are able to kind of split up the bets somehow

1052
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: into into one of our other properties, if there's another

1053
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: property in the state, something like that. But these are

1054
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: all the things that I have to consider. Anybody who

1055
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: had the parlay of Scooch saying strategy and ibada on

1056
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: this podcast, cam gratus As, I'm like, you know, I'm

1057
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: just thinking about you and me sitting like at that

1058
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: crappy restaurant in the Mirage, sweating games on a Saturday night,

1059
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: or going places that we're not allowed to talk about

1060
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: on the podcast that I wouldn't even write about in

1061
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: the book. And like, now I got fucking Scooch talking

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Speaker 1: about strategy and ebitda. Yeah, when you talk about how

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Speaker 1: I would have been visioned it twenty years ago, that's

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Speaker 1: another area that I think I handicapped wrong. Jeez, I

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00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: don't even know why we're asking your questions. You got

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Speaker 1: it all wrong. Unbelievable, Matt Mitchell, since Scooch was your

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Speaker 1: inspiration for leaving your stable job with a young baby

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Speaker 1: and a bride and getting into the audio business. I

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Speaker 1: do want you to ask Scoots the one question we

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Speaker 1: talked about before we jumped on Scooch. One of my

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Speaker 1: favorite stories you ever told on the podcast What's Right? Uh,

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Speaker 1: the public had an unusually good week in something like

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Speaker 1: week fourteen, somewhere right in the pre Christmas window, and

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Speaker 1: you shared that you actually hated when the public had

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Speaker 1: great weeks in the one or two weeks leading up

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Speaker 1: to Christmas, because instead of with with disdain in your voice,

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Speaker 1: you let us know that instead of reinvesting it in

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Speaker 1: bets the next week or rolling it over to Monday night,

1079
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Speaker 1: they would do the disgusting thing and spend it on

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Speaker 1: Christmas presents for themselves, their children, their loved ones. So

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Speaker 1: that you you actually preferred weeks seventeen or the or

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Speaker 1: the earlier weeks. Is that still the case? It's absolutely

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Speaker 1: And I actually said that two weeks ago because that

1084
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Speaker 1: we had one of our worst weeks of the entire

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00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: NFL season just before Christmas, and I was like, son

1086
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: of a bit, we're not going to get that money back.

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Speaker 1: It was the first thing I thought of when it

1088
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Speaker 1: happened somewhere Bob Scucci's mad I texted my guys and

1089
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the worst time this could

1090
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Speaker 1: have happened, Like the week before, the Sunday before Christmas?

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Speaker 1: I said, are you kidding me? Excuse before you go,

1092
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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to make a scooch roulette pick.

1093
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Wow? Off the cup? Huh? Off the cuff.

1094
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: Simon has uh the Steelers plus three and a half.

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00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: I have Tennessee minus three and a half. You can

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Speaker 1: make your choice from any other uh, any other games? Well,

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00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I do like Tennessee, so that that would have been

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Speaker 1: the one that I would have picked. Two bad sucker,

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Speaker 1: I will go. I will go with the Packers because

1100
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: they are just as hot as you can be. The

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00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Vikings they just fall apart in the fourth quarter. Even

1102
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: if they do keep it close, they can't close a game.

1103
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: And going against the Packers, I don't think they have

1104
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: a chance. What are you surprisingly square pick from you?

1105
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I knew that was coming. This is a classic divisional matchup.

1106
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Speaker 1: A Vikings team that plays up to the to the

1107
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: caliber of their opponents, a Packers team that has played

1108
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: incredible against the spread there due for regression. I am shocked.

1109
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Speaker 1: I feel like you're laying a trap. You're you're asking

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Speaker 1: all of our listeners about the packers because because you

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00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: know you're gonna need the vikings. Wow. Wow, that's really cynical.

1112
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's been a weird fucking year, scitch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know to tell you. Since you left, I've

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Speaker 1: lost my warmth and Simon has turned me into an evil, evil,

1115
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: cynical bastard. I could see that. I could see that

1116
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Speaker 1: that's your pick. That's your pick. I'll stick with it

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Speaker 1: all right. Listen, Bob Scucci. It's like the o G

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Speaker 1: of sports betting, going back too far, going back too

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Speaker 1: far with me. Simon loves you, Matt Mitchell. You changed

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Speaker 1: his life. You have changed life for so many people

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00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. They don't even know it. All

1122
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: of our new listeners don't even oh how you are

1123
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: the influence for this podcast. We thank you, we love you.

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Speaker 1: We wish you and your family a happy new year.

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Speaker 1: Here's to being together in twenty two. Thank you so much. Well,

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Speaker 1: that that was really nice. I really appreciate all the

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00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: nice words. And there was an honor to be here

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Speaker 1: with you, guys. I appreciate it. God, we love Bob Scucci.

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Bob Scucci, bookmaker to the world. This

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Speaker 1: has been the Favorites until we meet again on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. For Simon Hunter, I am Chad Milnan.

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Speaker 1: Download us from Apple, podcast from Spotify. Give us those

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Speaker 1: five stars. Even if you hate us, I want to

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Speaker 1: say something mean, that's cool. Give us the five stars.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. I love you.