1 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Hey guys, back with another Sunday sampler. On the Bobby Cast, 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: I sat down with Grammy winning songwriter Daniel Tashin. Daniel 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: talks about working with the Ringo Starr and why his dad, 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: who actually worked with the Beatles, did not want him 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: to go into music. That's coming up. I do want 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: to start though, within the Vets Office with Doctor Josie. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: It's all about pet allergies. What do we deal with 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: this a lot? And what to do if your pet 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: has allergies. Doctor Josie and her guest doctor Isabella share 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: how they diagnose different allergies and how they can be 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: managed by you guys long term. So let's get started. 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Here's a clip from this week's in the Vets Office 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: with Doctor Josie. 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak. 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: All right, we are back with our pot and order 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: for the week. 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: Number one on the list. 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: I would never ever do the saliva and blood testing 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: when testing for allergies, and my pets agreed. 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: I there are so many like over the counter. 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: Yes, blood, you can buy them on the internet. 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: Saliva, the hair, yeah yeah, those tests and they're just 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 5: we don't have any evidence that those are accurate, and 24 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 5: then ultimately it just makes it more challenging for us 25 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 5: trying to interpret them. 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: When we don't know what's real and what's not. I 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: totally I think you're wasting your money. If you're going 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: to put your money towards something, I would not put 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: it towards that. These are we don't even like the 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: people that are making them aren't like vetted. So you're 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: just buying something on the internet. You're getting caught in 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: an Instagram scam. Definitely, And I'm the queen of that people. Yes, 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: but this is one I would not fall for. 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, never, all right. 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: Number two, I would not put anything in my pet's 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: ears that is not veterinary recommended. 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 5: This one's very popular. Yes, we have clients coming in 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: all the time for with dogs with ear infections, and 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: we ask are you using anything for maintenance ear cleaning? 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: And they say, oh, yeah, yeah, I've been putting in 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: my vinegar. 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: And when I hear vinegar going in the ear, I 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: think I die a little inside. 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, people have some weird concoctions. I'm sure it's on TikTok. 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: But on it most slow is another thing. Coconut oil. 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 5: Yes, and the ear is already hot, hot, dark moist, 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: so you're just adding more moisture in there. It can 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: be tearing up the ear canal. 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and that your drama is so sensitive and if 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: there's a little tear this might be getting too scientific, 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: but if there's a little tear in your pet's ear drum, 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: that is a whole leading into the inside of the 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: pets you know, ear canal, and then it can affect 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: their brain. I mean, we have to be really careful 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: with what we put into the ears. 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 5: Yes, So don't use anything that isn't prescription or something 57 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: that your veterinarian is specifically recommending from Chewy your pet Smart. 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. There's one drop that I see a lot, 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: which is called zymox. 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 5: Yeah. 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: I feel like bad, like I'm calling out drug companies, 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: but I mean it's the truth. We see zymox and 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: people will use that like, oh, I've been trying this, 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: but it's not really working. 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: And that is just a steroid. 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: So it's going to help bring down a little inflammation 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: and help with itchiness, but it will not work with 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: an ear infection. 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: It's not going to treat the bacteria. Or the yeast. 70 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: It's just gonna help with some of the redness, but 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 5: you need antibacterials or anti fungals. 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: You're not ever treating the underlying issue until you get that. 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: So we're just like the bear of bad news on 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: this episode. 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, and unfortuate a lot of clients. They always ask 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: if we can put them on an oral antibiotic or 77 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 5: medication for the ear infections, and it's the topicals. Eardrops 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: are like really the only things that are reaching enough 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: of a concentration to treat. 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: Those penetrating that that's thick ear wall. Yeah, that's very true. 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: It's different than in humans. Humans can take oral antibiotics 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: for ear infections, but in our pets they cannot. Okay, last, 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: but not least. I would not, and I'm pretty sure 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: I've already said this, I'm gonna say it again because 85 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: we're doing our allergy talk. I would not continuously switch 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: the proteins in my pets food. I hear so many 87 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: owners say, oh, my pet gets bored, so now I 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: have them on chicken. Now I have them on salmon 89 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: and beef and rabbit, an alligator and all the things. 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: And if your pet is doing great on the protein 91 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: they're on. 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: Stick with it, yes, agreed, if for some reason, I mean, 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 5: this is just setting them up to develop a food allergy, 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: correct and ANGI issues too if you just keep switching 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: it up. So stick with what they like, stick with 96 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: what you know. And if they do develop a food 97 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 5: allergy in the future, it will make it much harder 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: for us to try and figure out a protein that 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 5: works for them since they've been exposed to so much. 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: Exactly, if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. Definitely, 101 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: And that is the end of our pawn order and 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: the end of our episode. 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming back. 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: Thank you. 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll be having you in season three. 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We really appreciate it and we'll see you 113 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: next week. 114 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 6: I have two pianos, number of keyboards, but I have 115 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 6: one in the studio and one in the kitchen. 116 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to feel inspiration here. And let's say, yeah, 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you're inspired. You maybe in your sleep you think of 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: something or you keep maybe you'll sit down and just 119 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: start to kind of clink it out. 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 7: Do you record while you're while you're clinking. 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what the most inspiring is. Yeah, I've 122 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 6: got a bunch of voice memos. I mean, you know, 123 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 6: And what the most inspiring thing for me is is 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 6: what I was. I was watching a basketball game the 125 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: other night and then this ad for Gallatin Ford came 126 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 6: on and the lady said, we've re done our dealership. 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 6: We've now We've now got the power of purpose. And 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: I thought, Okay, that's it. That's the phrase, the power 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 6: of purpose. And what I mean is the best way 130 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 6: to write a song is when you need to write 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 6: a song. So if you've got a comedy thing and 132 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: you've got a spot and you need a song for it, 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 6: you'll get it. 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 8: You'll get it done. And it's the same thing with me. 135 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 6: When there's a need for a song, that's the best 136 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 6: way to get it. 137 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 7: Give me an example of a song that happened. 138 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 6: With well, I mean, anything like okay, just just last 139 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 6: you know, a couple of weeks recording some music with 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 6: Casey Musgraves is like, you know, she needed something in 141 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: a certain mood and a certain kind of genre and 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 6: a certain kind of feeling. Yeah, a certain thing. There's 143 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 6: a need that arises. So I've got the power of 144 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 6: purpose behind me. I'm gonna sit down and work within 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 6: these parameters to try to make something. 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 8: And that's the way to get it done. 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 6: That's why those Broadway writers were able to to get 148 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 6: so many things done, you know, is they got the purpose. 149 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 8: Without necessity. 150 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 6: For a song, I'm lost, I'll just I'll just goof 151 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: off all day if I no one needs anything. 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 9: How hard is it? 153 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: And maybe hard's not the word, but what's the difference 154 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: in writing We'll call them adult songs and kids songs. 155 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 8: No difference. 156 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 6: They got to be they got to be good, and 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 6: they got to be simple for everybody. 158 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: When you're writing kids songs, I full just the little 159 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: disclosure here. 160 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 7: I did a kid's record that the Cracker Broil bought. 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 7: It's pretty good. 162 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, pretty good. 163 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: I mean yeah, it's only like eleven albums. Was awesome. 164 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 8: That's like, that's so cool that you did that, and. 165 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 7: So I started to struggle. 166 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: After I had written a couple I wrote like a 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: rap at first by accident, right, it was like about 168 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: the planets, and I'm like, this would be cool. 169 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 7: But then I started like second guessing. 170 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: How simple it should or shouldn't be based on the kid, 171 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: based on the age. 172 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 7: Did it with a kid's book too? 173 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: And I got in my head going, I don't know 174 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: a four year nine year like, I didn't really know. 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I was lost in that space where huh. I have 176 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: friends that have that are writers and they know exactly 177 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: who they're writing to. I just felt like in that 178 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: kid world there was such a distinct difference in a 179 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: four and a eight year old. 180 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 6: Maybe, but I always felt like I was underestimated, Like 181 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 6: you know, like I never wanted to have like a 182 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 6: little kiddie plate with like little dividers for all the 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 6: food and a little sippy cup or anything like that. 184 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 6: I want to have the china and the I just 185 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 6: a kid that didn't want to be demeaned in that way. 186 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 6: You know, I was a pretty I considered myself to 187 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 6: be a thinking, feeling, sensitive person and I didn't want 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 6: to be treated like a baby. So when I make 189 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 6: things for children. I make things for myself as a child, 190 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 6: which I still feel like I am in my heart. 191 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 6: And they're they're like Henry Mancini, They're sophisticated. 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 8: In a certain way. 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 11: They are. 194 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 6: You know, I realize I price myself out of stuff, 195 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 6: but I don't. I don't like stuff that's pandering or 196 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 6: kind of demeaning to kids. 197 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Really say more by that, you realize you price yourself 198 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: out of stuff. What do you mean? 199 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 6: Well, I just mean sometimes I think the things I 200 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 6: did well, we did get nominated for a Grammy for 201 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 6: the first the first kids thing that I did. But 202 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 6: I think, you know, some of the things you listen 203 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 6: to that are there in that space that are supposed 204 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: to be for kids, they're. 205 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 8: Kind of stupid and and I don't I'm not into that. 206 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 10: See. 207 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 7: I kind of felt the challenge because I didn't know. 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: I think one of the great things about making that 209 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: kids album was we didnt we were doing I think 210 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: there's a beauty to that. Sure, Sure, when you're naive, Yeah, 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that's the way to do it, right, Yeah, I don't 212 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: know the rules, that's the way to do it. 213 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 214 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: I think once we kind of got involved and started 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: we'd written six or seven songs and we started a 216 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: people to be a little bit interested. 217 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 7: Then we started doing the opposite. 218 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 8: Interesting, Yeah, we're like. 219 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Then trying to guess and speculate and why and let's 220 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: get dumber. And that was the wrong thing for us 221 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: to do, right, We did exactly what you just said, 222 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: and I think we learned a lot from it. 223 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 9: But that's what we did. 224 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 7: We were like, we need to make this dumber. 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 6: Well, when you talk about sports and music being parallels, 226 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 6: one thing that stands out to me is the psychological 227 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 6: hurdles that athletes have to get over in order to 228 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 6: get out and perform. And it's the same thing that 229 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 6: creative people have to You have to kind of get 230 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 6: through the second guessing thing. If you're a kicker, you know, 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: you got to just do what you do, you know, 232 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 6: and you can't get in your head. 233 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: Cats up thing, little food for yourself life. 234 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 12: Oh it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful 235 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 12: that a little more fly exciting said he can't cut 236 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 12: You're kicking with full thing with Amy Brown. 237 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 13: Change. 238 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 14: That is where growth happens. And if you're a people pleaser, 239 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 14: you for sure need to listen to this now. The 240 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 14: inspo for this whole topic came from a recent Three 241 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 14: Chords Therapy newsletter. No therapy Cat who co hosts The 242 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 14: Fifth Thing with Me on Tuesdays. She has her own 243 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 14: practic this here in Nashville. It's called Three Chords Therapy. 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 14: She sees clients and then she has other therapists that 245 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 14: work alongside her. They're all awesome and they take turns 246 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 14: writing the newsletter that goes out. And this most recent 247 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 14: one was written by Julie and I absolutely loved it. 248 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 14: She titled the newsletter Feeling Connected, and it's all about 249 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 14: letting go of people, pleasing, allowing ourselves to change, and 250 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 14: then just embracing a new mindset for this year. I'm 251 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 14: going to read it for you verbatim, because well, it's 252 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 14: too good not to share. I'll do that in just 253 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 14: a second. And then after I read it, I'm going 254 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 14: to share with you four things that will help validate 255 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 14: you anytime you need to change your mind or just 256 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 14: change in general. Okay, here's the newsletter again. It is 257 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 14: titled Feeling Connected, written by Julie Langner from Three Chords Therapy. 258 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: Here's what she wrote. 259 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 14: Maren Morris ushered me out of twenty four with a 260 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 14: song I began the year overplaying get the Hell out 261 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 14: of Here. I'm not surprised. I always love a song 262 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 14: I can pretend to live in. As a chronic people pleaser, 263 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 14: I basked in Maren's bold and unapologetic voice on this song. 264 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 14: I found myself clinging to her self assurance as she 265 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 14: sang one line in particular, my only resolution is I'm 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 14: allowed to change my mind. I like to pretend I'm 267 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 14: not a resolution gal because the psychology says it's not 268 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 14: the way we humans create change. However, if I let 269 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 14: myself have one for twenty twenty five, it is this 270 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 14: I'm allowed to change my mind. 271 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: The alternate title. 272 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 14: For this post was my New Year's resolution is to 273 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 14: be more of a disappointment, but I feared that might 274 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 14: unsettle some people. At the time of writing this, it 275 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 14: is still twenty twenty four, so I have eleven more 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 14: days to hold tight to my people pleasing protective strategies. 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 14: That is often what people pleasing is, and attachment coded 278 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 14: response that we learn in childhood as a way to 279 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 14: protect and maintain our most important relationships. People pleasers learn 280 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 14: through observation and experience that conflict threatens connection. And if 281 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 14: I'm a young child dependent on my caregivers for survival, 282 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 14: my smart, little nervous system is going to learn that 283 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 14: in order to survive, I need to keep the peace 284 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 14: and prioritize others' needs. As an adult, I get the 285 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 14: chance to correct this response, Hello therapy, But nervous system 286 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 14: habits die hard. So I'm still learning that asserting myself 287 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 14: does not always mean disconnection. What does this have to 288 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 14: do with changing my mind? 289 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 15: People? 290 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 14: Pleasing on a very micro level for me looks like 291 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 14: holding myself to rigid expectations that avoid inconveniencing others. When 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 14: I work with clients around changing longstanding protective strategies, I 293 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 14: always like to work with the lowest hanging fruit. What's 294 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 14: the least threatening disruption we can pull off? 295 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: To start? 296 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 14: For me, it's gonna look like sending a lot of 297 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 14: texts like this in twenty twenty five. So actually I 298 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 14: changed my mind. Can we meet an East instead? I'm 299 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 14: really craving Mitchell's DELI. Hey, I took a closer look 300 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 14: at my schedule and I can no longer make Thursday work. 301 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 14: So meeting via zoom was working great for me, and 302 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 14: now I'd actually prefer to come in person. Can we 303 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 14: arrange that? So whenever we're changing a protective strategy, it 304 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 14: is common to feel an increase in anxiety, so we 305 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 14: want to pair it with some extra self care. After 306 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 14: I send a text like this, I'll probably throw my 307 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 14: phone on the couch and turn on Maren Morris. If 308 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 14: you're a chronic people pleaser, why don't you join me 309 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 14: in changing your mind this year? 310 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 13: Julia? 311 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 14: All right, So that's the newsletter, and that it's challenging 312 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 14: us to not hold tightly to any protective strategies we 313 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 14: have picked up along the way, whether as a young child, 314 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 14: as a teenager, as a young adult, different life circumstances, 315 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 14: we pick up all kinds of strategies, which might mean 316 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 14: we end up being more of a disappointment this year 317 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 14: if we let go of some of those strategies. But 318 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 14: we can do all of this in a healthy way. 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 14: And after I read Julia's newsletter, I thought, Okay, I 320 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 14: want to sit with this for a little bit and 321 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 14: tied into four things by coming up with four things 322 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 14: that make changing your mind or changing in general awesome. 323 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 14: And the first thing that came to mind for me, 324 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 14: especially since I've experienced a lot of change the last 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 14: few years, is changes. How we grow, whether it's learning 326 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 14: new skills or stepping out of a comfort zone or 327 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 14: letting go of old habits. Growth does not happen without change. 328 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 14: And on last Thursday's four Things episode, we talked about 329 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 14: shedding things that no longer serve us. 330 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 4: That's how we evolve. 331 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 14: It's all about shedding what no longer fits, and we 332 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 14: can try to make it fit, and we can squeeze 333 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 14: our way into the pants or whatever you want to 334 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 14: use to visualize something no longer fitting and how uncomfortable 335 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 14: that is. But sometimes we will just force it and 336 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 14: sit in the comfort because that uncomfort, we think is 337 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 14: more comfortable than the actual uncomfort of changing. You know 338 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 14: what I mean, You just like sort of like pick 339 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 14: your poison. But if we pick the one that is 340 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 14: going to help us fall in alignment with ourselves, help 341 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 14: us lean into our more authentic selves, Yeah, it may 342 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 14: be uncomfortable for a bit, but it's going to feel 343 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 14: better in the long run. 344 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 11: Do it live? 345 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 16: Oh? The one? 346 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 11: Two? 347 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 10: Three sore losers? 348 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 9: What up? Everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most 349 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 9: about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my 350 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 9: sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all. 351 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 9: It's Sison. 352 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 11: I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male. 353 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 17: I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser, 354 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 17: my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a 355 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 17: lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully 356 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 17: soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue 357 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 17: to be determined. 358 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 11: Over to you, coach. 359 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 9: And here's a clip from this week's episode of The 360 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 9: Sore Losers. So what I did is practicing passing. I 361 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 9: had everybody stand in a circle and I'd pass them 362 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 9: the ball and I'd say, what do you want on 363 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 9: your pizza? And they would say what they wanted on 364 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 9: their pizza and they throw it back to me. They 365 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 9: had interest in that game for about one minute, and 366 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 9: after the fourth kid, they didn't care what we had 367 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 9: on our pizza. They didn't care about that. They were 368 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 9: I'm like, what, wait, what did you say you wanted 369 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 9: your pizza? And they'd be like, I forgot, I don't know, 370 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 9: trying to make a fun game out of learning how 371 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 9: to pass it. And then I was like you know what. 372 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 9: We got ten minutes left. Let's scrimmage. And oh my gosh, 373 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 9: I said, okay, you're only allowed to guard this person. 374 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 9: You're only allowed to guard this person because in the 375 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 9: game you are only allowed to guard your one person. Well, 376 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 9: i'll tell you what. You hand the ball to the 377 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 9: first person. He starts dribbling, and everybody swarms to that person. 378 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 9: And I'm like, no, guys, you can't do that. And everybody, 379 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 9: even if you're on the team the guy, one guy 380 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 9: was guarding his own man like I might. No, he's 381 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 9: on your team. He's on your team, trying to steal 382 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 9: it from him. And what do kids do when people 383 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 9: get around him? They grab the ball and they run 384 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 9: and they run and they run. There was no dribbling, 385 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 9: there was no attempt at dribbling, there was no passing. 386 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 11: That society man hell in a handbasket. 387 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 9: Wow, it looked like people at Costco trying to get 388 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 9: those new Pokemon cards. 389 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 17: So after forty years, our society hasn't evolved at all. 390 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 11: This is sad. 391 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 9: It was a little awkward man and kids were getting mad. 392 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 9: He's grabbing me, he's palling me, she's grabbing me, she's 393 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 9: palling me and I don't grab another man. I didn't 394 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 9: know how to. I didn't know how to get him 395 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 9: to spread out, Like I was like, whoa stop, stop, stop, 396 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 9: everybody spread out, spread out? Now, pass it over there, 397 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 9: pass it over there? Pat No, no, okay, no you 398 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 9: got a dribble? 399 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 16: No? 400 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 9: Oh man man uh yeah. And then half of them 401 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 9: were upset because they like I didn't get a because 402 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 9: I had red pennies for the you know, so you 403 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 9: could tell who's on whose team. And the kids that 404 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 9: didn't have a penny were like, I want one. I 405 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 9: want a jersey. Why don't I get a jersey? I? No, no, 406 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 9: they're not real jerseys. Why am I not on the 407 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 9: Why why don't I get a team jersey? I'm like, no, no, no, 408 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 9: we're not that's not it's not a jersey. 409 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 17: Yeah, this ain't basketball. This is parenting. Your parents about 410 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 17: to have a ball. You're the one watching him free daycare. 411 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 412 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 9: And then we had to have a team circle, and 413 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 9: we had to come up with a team name. 414 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 11: Oh, don't go criss cross apple saus. 415 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 9: Some people were kneeling, some were sitting on their basketballs. 416 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 9: Some were sitting crisscross Apple sauce. 417 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 11: Kid's take a knee. You've all seen it on the NFL. 418 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 9: I was like, balls down, balls, quit drip, Please stop 419 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 9: dripping the ball guy, I said, no ball, how about 420 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 9: we put the balls over here to the side so 421 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 9: he won't be distracted. 422 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 11: Okay, Bob Knight. 423 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 9: Trying to come up with a team name. 424 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 11: Is he still with us? 425 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 9: I don't know if Bob Knight's around, he may. 426 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 11: Have think he just recently did. 427 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 9: I think you're right. I think about in twenty twenty, 428 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 9: but I don't know. But anyway, then you have We 429 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 9: had eight kids at practice. 430 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 17: Bob Knight was a Hall of Fame college basketball coach. 431 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 9: That means past. He died win a year ago, twenty 432 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 9: twenty three. Yep, No, twenty twenty. 433 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 11: Four, twenty twenty three, two years ago, a year and 434 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 11: a month ago. 435 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 9: So we have eight kids there and we have five 436 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 9: different suggestions for team names. I'm like, okay. Then we 437 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 9: got it down to two, Team USA and Team Nashville. 438 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 11: I liked this strong patriotic vibe. 439 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 9: And I go to this one kid. He's the deciding vote. 440 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 11: That's the proudest I've ever been. 441 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 9: And I said, train on your art. Hey, man, what 442 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 9: do you want to vote for? I don't care. 443 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 11: Well, I mean, that's America a nutshell. I might micro cause. 444 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 9: Them, well, you need to exercise your right to vote. 445 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 9: You got to rock the vote, dude. And I'm like, what, like, 446 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 9: between Team USA and Team Nashville, what would you want 447 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 9: to vote for? And he's like, either, what a great kid? 448 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 11: Is that yours? 449 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 12: No? 450 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 9: Not mine? 451 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 11: Ray, wish you most. 452 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 9: My two kids on the team were very adamant about 453 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 9: Team USA. 454 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 17: Wow. 455 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 11: I think inspired by the Olympics and their father. We 456 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 11: always say the Pledge before bredge. 457 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 9: They are very much into the Pledge of Allegiance and 458 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 9: they love the Star Spangled banner before national games. They 459 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 9: love it before we play in the backyard, they we 460 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 9: have to sing the national anthem before we can play 461 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 9: any sport. 462 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 17: Baser ever, she's hammered go to national anthem? No crap, Yeah, 463 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 17: I didn't know that about her. Haul hilarious, Like she 464 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 17: just sings it or she karaokes it. She'll just sing 465 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 17: it and I'll be like, I'll be sitting there about 466 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 17: six deep middle of my living room, hand over the heart. 467 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 9: I'll make a note for the convention, get Bay to 468 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 9: sing national anthem to night on the party bus, but 469 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 9: she's six deep, hey Bay. Before the party bus takes 470 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 9: off the you know tractor, Nashville tractor, Nashville tractor. Before 471 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 9: they pull us around the city, can you lead us 472 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 9: in the national anthem? 473 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: Please personally with Lloyd fuels Man. 474 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 18: Lindsay Tran is with us today. She's a certified energy 475 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 18: healer and coach, also known as the Real Love Alchemist 476 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 18: on social media. 477 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: Lindsay, how are you doing. 478 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 19: I'm really good, super excited to be here. Thank you 479 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 19: for having me. 480 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 18: And you mentioned that firework feeling and often that people 481 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 18: refer to as butterflies, And I saw when you're posts 482 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 18: on social media talking about this, and I thought it 483 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 18: was so interesting because I've experienced many different kinds of 484 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 18: butterflies in my dating, good, bad, everywhere in between. What's 485 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 18: your thoughts on this, Like, what are butterflies and what's 486 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 18: the situation with them? Should we be avoiding them, happy 487 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 18: that they're around? 488 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 10: What's going on? 489 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 490 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah? Butterflies, man, they could be super confusing because, 491 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 19: like you said, you can feel all kinds of different 492 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 19: sensations down there and they can mean a lot of 493 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 19: different things, So you know, My stance on it is 494 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 19: that I would not go by butterflies to tell you anything, 495 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 19: because typically their thought of is just like sensations in 496 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 19: the stomach, and you can have those kinds of sensations 497 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 19: when you're excited, when you're turned on well, but also 498 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 19: when you're feeling unsafe, when you're feeling anxious. So like, 499 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 19: if that's that's the deal with butterflies, then I just 500 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 19: tell my clients, like, don't go by them, Like it's 501 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 19: nice to notice when they're there, and you can you 502 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 19: can say, oh, I feel butterflies, Maybe I want to 503 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 19: investigate that a little bit more, like what is that 504 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 19: actually telling me what am I feeling here? Sometimes they 505 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 19: can even be present when we feel love, So it's 506 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 19: it's super confusing, and I just say, like, throw the 507 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 19: butterfly thing away, like it really is not a reliable 508 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 19: indicator for whether someone's right for you or wrong for you, 509 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 19: because it could be present in so many different situations. 510 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 19: A good question, thank you. 511 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 18: Oh yeah, And it's so hard, right because I have 512 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 18: grown up on Disney movies and I've been taught that 513 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 18: butterflies are what you're looking for, like you should be 514 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 18: swept off your feet Heck, even Princess Diaries taught me 515 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 18: that I should be foot popping when I'm kissing, you 516 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 18: know what I mean. Like, there's so many levels of this, 517 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 18: So I love that you said it has multiple levels 518 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 18: and maybe just like use it as your body's reacting 519 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 18: to something and nothing more than that. 520 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 19: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Like don't if you're asking for just 521 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 19: straight up advice, don't go by butterflies. Yeah, like can 522 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 19: mean so many different things. 523 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh that's good. 524 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 18: Okay, but I'm glad we made sure to squash that 525 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 18: little bug, if you will. 526 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 9: I also want to talk about I think. 527 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 18: There's this kind of this perception around people who jump 528 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 18: from relationship to relationship, good and bad. Right, There's some 529 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 18: people who are like, oh, good for them. There's other 530 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 18: people like, holy crap, what are they doing? What is 531 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 18: this situation with people who jump to relationship to relationship 532 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 18: that you've seen? Is this more normal or is it 533 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 18: something that we shouldn't be doing? 534 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: How do we know we're healing? 535 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 18: Like this kind of baseline of just jumping from a 536 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 18: relationship to relationship. 537 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 19: Yeah, I like to talk about that because I was 538 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 19: that person in my past, Like I pretty much jumped 539 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 19: from a ten year marriage into another relationship, and yeah, 540 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 19: it really was just a matter of a couple months, 541 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 19: so I could totally relate to being in that place. 542 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 19: And you know, I would say if I put myself 543 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 19: in my head at that time. There were a number 544 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 19: of different reasons why I was doing that, and a 545 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 19: lot of them are unconscious. That's why I'm a big 546 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 19: on subconscious work. But some of the reasons were I 547 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 19: didn't want to be alone because I had been in 548 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 19: this relationship for so long and the thought of starting 549 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 19: over again completely and being single for a while just 550 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 19: completely filled me with dread. I just felt like, oh, 551 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 19: it's so daunting. I don't want to do it now. 552 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 19: This was not completely conscious, but that was going on 553 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 19: in the back of my mind. And the other reason 554 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 19: was I had told myself, which was not actually true, 555 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 19: but I had told myself that I had done a 556 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 19: lot of the grieving while in the relationship because it 557 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 19: was a long time coming. Like I didn't just pop 558 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 19: out of there. I had done a lot of work 559 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 19: to get to that point, and I thought I was 560 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 19: over it at that point, which was not completely not true, 561 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 19: but that's what I was thinking at the time, and Also, 562 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 19: I was trying to avoid the deep pain, the deep 563 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 19: grieving that I really actually needed to do before getting 564 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 19: into a relationship. So I thought, well, I'll just pop 565 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 19: in here and like I'll just feel better and that'll 566 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 19: be it. I'll just be good. So I think a 567 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 19: lot of those reasons are why people jump from relationship 568 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 19: to relationship. Now I can't speak for everyone here, but 569 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 19: that's usually what I see, like some variation of those 570 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 19: or even all of them going on at once. And 571 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 19: I would say, like, no judgment if you want to 572 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 19: do that, cool, but I would say if you're if 573 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 19: you're looking to break this psych of these painful relationships, 574 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 19: you probably do want to pause because it's very different 575 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 19: actually being single after a relationship and taking that time 576 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 19: to figure out why am I now? How did I 577 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 19: get to this point and what do I actually want 578 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 19: moving forward? Because I from my experience, you can't get 579 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 19: that kind of perspective while you're in the relationship with somebody, 580 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 19: even if you think you've done all the processing, like 581 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 19: you've done all the work, it's different when you're single. 582 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 19: It's different when you're out of that relationship. So I mean, unfortunately, 583 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 19: I do see it a lot. But again, if you're 584 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 19: trying to break the cycle of painful relationships, I would 585 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 19: not recommend relationship hopping. 586 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 10: Hey it's Mike d and this week all movie Mike's 587 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 10: Movie Podcast. My wife and co host Kelsey joined me. 588 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 10: Every single month we do our big recap episode where 589 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 10: we're talking about all the movies we've seen in theaters 590 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 10: and streaming at home. So it's a big movie dump 591 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 10: of movies we think you should check out, whether they're 592 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 10: still in theaters or they're coming to streaming soon, and 593 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 10: movies we think you should avoid altogether because they're not 594 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 10: worth your time, not worth your money. So I'm gonna 595 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 10: play you our best picks right now, but be sure 596 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 10: to listen to the full episode to hear our worst. 597 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 10: We also give our TV recommendations to on this episode. 598 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 10: So right now, here's just a little bit of Movie 599 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 10: Mike's Movie Podcast. I'm gonna go Baby Girl, Really, Baby Girl? 600 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 13: Yeah? 601 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 10: Why did you like that movie so much? 602 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 13: Well, while we saw it at the Bellcourt, which is 603 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 13: I feel like seeing any movie there makes it infinitely 604 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 13: better because it's just got this like old time theater 605 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 13: kind of vibe, like they have curtains on the stage 606 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 13: and people respect the like no cell phones, no talking. 607 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 10: That is the only theater we go to which we 608 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 10: only go to really to that one into Regal, but 609 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 10: nobody pulls out their cell phone ever. You never see 610 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 10: it alone. You don't even see really people leave I 611 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 10: guess to go to the bathroom, but. 612 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 13: Which I must say, they do dollar popcorn and drink refills, 613 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 13: and I take advantage of that every time. 614 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 10: Which when we go to that theater it is a small, 615 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 10: independent theater. We always try to buy snacks there. I 616 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 10: know sometimes I take my own snacks when we go 617 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 10: to Regal, but it's like a big chain. We also 618 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 10: have the Yeah, still get drinks and popcorn. I don't 619 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 10: really have anything that can eat there. But at Bellcourt 620 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 10: we always make it a point to support them because 621 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 10: that's how they make a lot their money. 622 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 13: We are remembers now with the bell Court. 623 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 10: So if you go to a local theater, always buy snacks. 624 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 10: Was it also getting to see her afterwards that maybe 625 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 10: heighten it a little bit? 626 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 627 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 13: Absolutely, Yeah. 628 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 10: I can feel kind of the presence of her being 629 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 10: there afterwards and hearing her talk about it made me 630 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 10: enjoy it more. It's kind of like whenever they have 631 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 10: premieres at like film festivals and the person is actually there. 632 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 10: I think that's why sometimes those movies get really big 633 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 10: standing ovations that are like eleven minutes long, because there's 634 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 10: something about them being there. But I still think even 635 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 10: with out her presence, I enjoyed that movie way more 636 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 10: than I was expecting. 637 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 13: To, as did I, which is why it's my best 638 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 13: of the month. 639 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 10: My best of the month for December. We saw a lot, 640 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 10: and I'll run through it more once we're all done 641 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 10: with both of our picks. I'm going to go with 642 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 10: The Complete Unknown. 643 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 13: Really good. 644 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 10: It was, I think because of my low expectations for 645 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 10: music biopicks right now that coming off of Elvis, which 646 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 10: was totally glossy and flashy and didn't really feel like 647 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 10: a traditional biopic it's very fantastical. This one was a 648 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 10: little bit more set in reality, and it also didn't 649 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 10: focus on his entire career, which I enjoyed. It was 650 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 10: pretty much how he got discovered, how his first album 651 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 10: didn't really work out well, and then all leading up 652 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 10: to whenever he went electric, so becomes famous and then 653 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 10: totally wants to change what he's doing. So I think 654 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 10: it was the fact that it didn't try to cover 655 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 10: his entire life, which sometimes just feels like way too 656 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 10: much to fit into a two and hours half hour movie. 657 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 10: I think that is why I ended up enjoying it more. 658 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 10: It was focused more on early leading up to one point, 659 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 10: so unlike most traditional biopics that are just their entire 660 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 10: life all trying to be into one movie, I feel 661 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 10: like it told a story better because it was like, 662 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 10: here's this guy just trying to get his music heard 663 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 10: by people, ends up changing a genre, bringing new life 664 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 10: into it, and then has this dilemma when he kind 665 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 10: of wants to step away from that a little bit. 666 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 10: And also, Timothy shallow May I thought did a really 667 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 10: good job as Bob Dylan, even though there are some 668 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 10: moments where you can tell, oh, that's Timothy shallow May 669 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 10: being Timothy shallow May. 670 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 13: Yeah, there were a few where like just his personality 671 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 13: came through, and I feel like that's hard to do because. 672 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 10: I felt that too in Dune too, where there is 673 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 10: some intense moments, but then it's almost like the way 674 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 10: he speaks, where everybody in Dune speaks so like almost 675 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 10: theatrical and like old school, and they have like this 676 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 10: different dialect. Sometimes he just sounds like a California I 677 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 10: don't think he's from California, but it sounds like that 678 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 10: Hollywood kid. 679 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 13: I laugh because I don't know if you've seen any 680 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 13: of the tweets about like when he and Kylie Jenner 681 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 13: first started dating, and but people were like, why does 682 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 13: everyone just assume that Timothy Chalomay is just like astute 683 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 13: Shakespearean lover of literature, Like just because he's been in 684 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 13: like Little Women and other like intense serious movies. They're like, 685 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 13: he might not be as like Shakespearean intense as people 686 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 13: think he is. 687 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean he is a theater kid, so he 688 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 10: has that aspect to him. But I think, like you 689 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 10: were saying, people were so surprised when he went on 690 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 10: college game day and knew a lot about football. It's 691 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 10: like he's like a mid twenties white. 692 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 13: Dude on SML Pete Davidson, And. 693 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 10: When you see him outside of his roles, he seems 694 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 10: like a normal dude. Like all the press he did 695 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 10: for this movie seemed like a normal dude. 696 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 13: I mean, maybe his name too, just Timothy Chalomy. 697 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 10: It's true, it's a weird way to spell Timothy it 698 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 10: already looks regal. 699 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 13: Timothy Chela may just rolls off the tongue. 700 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 10: It sounds like a very regal name. Like when he's fifty, 701 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 10: it's gonna sound like, oh yeah, it's Timothy Shallomy in 702 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 10: the same way we look at Denzel Washington now kind 703 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 10: of has that feel. What do you think about Edin 704 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 10: Norton looking very much older? 705 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 13: I legit had to IMDb during the movie because I 706 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 13: was like, who is that? He looks so familliar And 707 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 13: I was like, excuse me, former mister incredible Hulk. 708 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 10: Yeah, they made him look really old. 709 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 8: He's only fifty five. 710 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 13: They made him look very what's the word I was 711 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 13: about to say, daddy, But that's not what I meant. 712 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 10: I meant like dad, like Dad, core, Dad, Core, thank you, 713 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 10: that's even more grandpa core. He looked very old, but 714 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 10: I thought he was. He was good in that. I 715 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 10: could have seen somebody else in that role. Yeah, But 716 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 10: I think overall the movie taught me about Bob Dylan. 717 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 13: When I knew nothing about Bob Dylan, I didn't. 718 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 10: Really know anything about his story as far as how 719 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 10: he got to start his whole relationship with the other 720 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 10: singer John Biaz in this movie. I didn't really know 721 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 10: who you want us to be honest, there are about 722 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 10: four Bob Dylan songs that I like, and after watching 723 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 10: this movie, I did go back and listen to him. 724 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 10: I enjoy them, but it wasn't the same way whenever 725 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 10: I went to go see Bohemian Rhapsody that I got 726 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 10: very into Queen's music. I don't think I'll have that 727 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 10: same trajectory after watching this movie. 728 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 13: I think I liked the Wonka soundtrack more. 729 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, we did listen to that more. We listened to 730 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 10: Bob Dylan on the way home from watching this movie. 731 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 10: You cute it up and we haven't really dipped back 732 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 10: into it since, so thinks. I think that's about where 733 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 10: I am. 734 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm think he's great. It's just not my musical taste. 735 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 13: Like I respect him as an artist and think he's 736 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 13: very talented, just isn't what I want to listen to. 737 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 10: I also enjoyed that it did show him being a dick. 738 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 13: It did. Yeah, it wasn't glossy like Bob Dylan's the best. 739 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 13: It was kind of like, oh, we kind of screwed 740 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 13: some people over and like left behind the people who 741 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 13: helped him get a start. 742 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 10: And most times when biopics come out where the person 743 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 10: is still alive, that is the reason I don't like it, 744 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 10: because not that he he still gave some approval on 745 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 10: this movie. He wasn't a producer or anything on it, 746 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 10: but obviously they wanted to put it out with his blessing, 747 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 10: and he watched it before and approved of it. He 748 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 10: thought Timothy Shalama did a good job portraying him, But 749 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 10: it was the fact that they still left in some 750 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 10: of the things that didn't paint him out to be 751 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 10: a saint, which they always try to paint whoever they're 752 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 10: making a bio pick out to be the perfect person. 753 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 13: Like they didn't realize her. 754 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 10: Because if you look at what Elvis is versus what 755 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 10: the movie Priscilla is, two totally different movies sides of things, 756 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 10: they don't show anything bad about Elvis, So I enjoyed 757 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 10: that aspect of it. I thought also the music on 758 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 10: its own was really good in the movie, with Timothy 759 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 10: Shallome singing, and for a movie that had a lot 760 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 10: of music throughout, not even Bob Dylan music, but other music, 761 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 10: it did a really good job at holding my attention 762 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 10: because sometimes when you put music in a movie that 763 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 10: people don't joy. It's like, oh man, you're gonna bore people. Yeah, 764 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 10: I wasn't bored, but yeah, that's why my best of 765 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 10: the month goes to a complete unknown. I stand by 766 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 10: my four point five out of five. 767 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 16: At cary Lone. 768 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 9: She's a queen and talking and it was. 769 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 8: She's getting really. 770 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 9: Not afraid to faces episode, so just let it flow. 771 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 16: No one can do we crowd cary Lone. It's sounding 772 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 16: care Lone. 773 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 20: The way that my whole thing, what's happened is really 774 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 20: crazy because I had auditioned for this like rock school, 775 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 20: and I'm like sixteen at this time, and I didn't. 776 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 15: Get in, but somebody school like to go to school. 777 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 15: It was like a like a. 778 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 20: Program where they would like there was teachers and they 779 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 20: would teach you something. 780 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 15: And you're unconventional. 781 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean I but I think I was just 782 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 20: uh trying to take advantage of every opportunity. I'm sure 783 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 20: my mom had found it online like I did a 784 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 20: million seeing competitions and talent shows and commercials and whatever 785 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 20: it was that I could do. My mom was willing 786 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 20: to drive me to audition, which is so sweet. The 787 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 20: best she literally is the best an sister. Yes, I 788 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 20: saw you're a poster and we are like a little 789 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 20: trio totally. 790 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 15: Yeah, it was. It was just three of. 791 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: Us, and your dad always absent. 792 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 20: He he definitely was absent even when he was there, 793 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 20: and if he was there, he wasn't Like he was 794 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 20: not a very good energy. So I think as soon 795 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 20: as I got a little older, I was kind of 796 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 20: like if he was home, like I would just like keep. 797 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 15: Driving my friend's house kind of thing. 798 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, very angry, kind of volatile person, just not like 799 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 20: a good guy, I guess if that makes sense. 800 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 15: And healed un healed lots to lots to heal for sure, So. 801 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 21: You've done a lot of healing, even like your songs 802 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 21: are so like advanced consciously, like I feel like you're 803 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 21: not even you're writing like breakup songs and you're writing 804 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 21: like real stuff, but you're also like very conscious and 805 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 21: aware of like your mental wellbeing and like the process 806 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 21: of healing. Do you think that's from your childhood and 807 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 21: like witnessing your dad being unhealed kind of that's like. 808 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 15: I've never actually like thought that before. 809 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 20: I think for me, like my I grew up a 810 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 20: little it was a little unconventional and it was hard. 811 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 20: I felt a lot of envy and like discomfort, feeling 812 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 20: like my home life like didn't look like other peoples. 813 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 21: In one house down from the girl next door. Yeah, 814 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 21: you just felt like you were like almost there but 815 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 21: not quite. 816 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 20: And I was really angry and I didn't feel like 817 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 20: anyone was listening to me, and so I got into 818 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 20: a lot of trouble, Like I was really just searching 819 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 20: for things and ended up in some situations and had 820 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 20: some trauma and it was just like kind of a 821 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 20: bit of a wreck, and I think that it all 822 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 20: kind of caught up to me and I started to 823 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 20: experience a lot of like anxiety and panic and that 824 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 20: it got so bad that I had to seek help, 825 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 20: like I needed to talk to somebody and therapist totally, 826 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 20: and that like intervention really my life. But it also 827 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 20: like unlocked this like level of consciousness that I think 828 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 20: I didn't know was there. And that's why I always 829 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 20: think there's so many benefits to go into therapy or 830 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 20: going on your mental health journey. But like it just 831 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 20: deepened and widened, and like I felt like I was 832 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 20: kind of asleep and it woke me up as well 833 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 20: as like my spirituality as while I kind of came 834 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 20: to Christianity later in life, and it was the same 835 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 20: type of thing where I was like. 836 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 21: That's awesome because it's real, totally absolutely it wasn't. You 837 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 21: didn't just grow up with it and inherit someone's beliefs. 838 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 15: You actually have your own beliefs. Nobody was ever like 839 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 15: you should go to church whatever. It was truly at 840 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 15: the ground. 841 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 20: Zero, bottom low place where someone had invited me to 842 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 20: church so much and I had turned them down so much. 843 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 20: And then one day I was like, you know what, 844 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 20: like ef it? What how much worse can it get? 845 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 20: Kind of thing, I'll try anything. And then it was 846 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 20: like this like wave of you know, all the magical 847 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 20: things that come with opening your eye. 848 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 4: What was the breaking moment for you? 849 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 20: I remember just being really numb, like I didn't I 850 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 20: was just super appathy about everything. I didn't care about everything. 851 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 20: So similar I mean, really depression really, that's that's the 852 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 20: main kind of indicator. And just didn't want to be home. 853 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 20: I didn't want to be in my body. I kind 854 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 20: of wanted to be somewhere else. And so a lot 855 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 20: of dissociating, a lot of drinking, a lot of just 856 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 20: like however I can just kind of run for my. 857 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 21: Life and oh my gosh, and your song make up 858 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 21: Holy cow, thank you, thank you. Talk about like putting 859 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 21: into words like what is the lines like I don't 860 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 21: know if I hate my body because my mom always did, 861 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 21: or if I have an anger because. 862 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 20: Like, yeah, oh my god, I was like, girl you 863 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 20: are that's like my favorite song. 864 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 15: Well, I mean that song. I don't love performing it. 865 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 20: Because it's like triggering a little bit and you just 866 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 20: have to take this huge deep breath and then sing 867 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 20: this like incredibly personal song to this crowd of people 868 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 20: who don't know, and it's like it I don't know, 869 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 20: it's it's a hard one. But writing it, like I've 870 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 20: never felt more like it was coming from somewhere else 871 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 20: and I was just like writing it down like it 872 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 20: was really kind of spooky the way that it happened. 873 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 20: It came so easily, and just the writing of it 874 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 20: and that the thinking about it because I knew I 875 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 20: wanted to write this kind of song was so healing 876 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 20: in a real way for me. And I think it's 877 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 20: just so important because whatever your trauma, these like cycles 878 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 20: are in your family, whether they're you know, body image 879 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 20: issues or anger or alcoholism or whatever it is. You 880 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 20: just kind of feel like you're you're really predisposed to it, 881 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 20: and it's almost like, oh, I have to have this, 882 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 20: like I have to hold it, and it's like you don't. 883 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 15: You can be whoever you want. Your cycle can end 884 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 15: with you. 885 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 20: And we hear that, but that was this real moment 886 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 20: where it was like I have complete control. 887 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 15: I felt it. 888 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 21: I felt it and just hearing people say that, because 889 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 21: a lot of that's just like words until you actually 890 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 21: like internalize it and feel it for yourself absolutely. 891 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 20: And like with the anger too, I mean like I was. 892 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 20: It was my husband and my boyfriend at the time. 893 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 20: He was like, it's like you kind of like you're 894 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 20: not even home when you get really angry, and that I. 895 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 15: Just remember sobbing. 896 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 20: I was like that was like my dad like he 897 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 20: just wasn't there because he was so mad and it 898 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 20: was heartbreaking to me. And I'm like I can't be 899 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 20: I can't be that and oh my gosh, I'm not 900 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 20: going to be an angry mom like one day, Like. 901 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 15: I cannot do that. 902 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 20: And so I was like, how do I like unpack 903 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 20: this and figure out tools and know when I'm like 904 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 20: getting kind of heated, I'm like, I need to step away. 905 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 20: And you would never know that about me, like because 906 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 20: I'm a very chill, happy person, but for some reason, 907 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 20: like I could get into the space where I would 908 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 20: just kind of lose my shit. 909 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 15: Can you swear? 910 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 8: Yeah? 911 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,959 Speaker 20: Yeah, and it just it wasn't cute and then. 912 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 21: And you probably felt terrible afterwards. Oh my god, I 913 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 21: feel like I very much relate to you because I 914 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 21: am so empathetic to the point where it's like debilitating, 915 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 21: and I have had to work so much on it. 916 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 21: And I'm forty one years old now and I finally 917 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 21: am at a place where I can like exist in 918 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 21: the world, I think without Like I use, I really 919 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 21: can't watch the news. I can't hear about kids suffering. 920 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 21: Yeah it's not like I want to put my head 921 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 21: in the sand. But also it's like, I know, I 922 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 21: cannot hear about things that I can't help with at 923 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 21: this point in my life because I will internalize it. 924 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 4: It will ruin my day. 925 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 21: It will sink my vibration because I'm like, oh my god, 926 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 21: the world is so full of suffering, Like and other 927 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 21: people traumatic that upset and. 928 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 15: You're like what are you? What do you mean? How 929 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 15: are you just like okay with that? 930 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 20: And then people are like, well, you know, I can't 931 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 20: personally do anything right the second, but I totally feel you. 932 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 21: But I had an anger problem too, Like I would 933 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 21: lose it and it would come over me. And it's 934 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 21: like I knew I wasn't an angry person because I 935 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 21: knew I was so loving and empathetic, but like I 936 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 21: would just like lose my shit and I would feel 937 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 21: terrible afterwards. 938 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's awful, you know for sure. 939 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 11: And that was this week's Sunday sampler. 940 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: Any of those tickle your little fancy go and check 941 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: out the full episode. Subscribe to the podcast. We keep 942 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: episodes going pretty regularly weekly. 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