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Speaker 2: we had a very healthy that's the term I'd like

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Speaker 2: to use your healthy discussion this morning, you said, Shannon,

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Speaker 2: Shannon Stevin, Ay, this deserves a more nuanced conversation. You

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Speaker 2: know how television work. You got the top of the hour,

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Speaker 2: you earlier today asking could you come on, you said yes.

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Speaker 2: So I want to give you an opportunity to what

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Speaker 2: you want to say with Joe.

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Speaker 1: Before y'all go being at y'all have a better knowledge

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Speaker 1: tell you that was peak elite sports journalism as far

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Speaker 1: as conversation is concerned. There's got to be so many

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Speaker 1: different opinions. Where the wrong, where the right? Monica, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know you could cook. I ain't know you was

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Speaker 1: you hear me you was cooking. You had your points,

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Speaker 1: but the passion, the passion and authenticity. Monica that you

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Speaker 4: That was Listen.

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Speaker 1: That was peak elite. I'm talking about elite television. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, I'm not saying it because you

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Speaker 4: That was That was all TV. What if thing is that?

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Speaker 2: Oh show that when you just do television and Monica

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Speaker 2: Monica had her opinion, I had mine, Steve, and they

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Speaker 2: I think the term resentment show show his head up

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Speaker 4: Well, so I'm.

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Speaker 5: Gonna take y'all. Two things happened to me. I actually

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Speaker 5: went to the game on Friday, and this episode sort

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Speaker 5: this spontaneous conversation about women's basketball. And yes, it was

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Speaker 5: like this is crazy, Like we're just on a train,

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Speaker 5: they started talking about Auburn and the Tuskegeeon. I was

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Speaker 5: But I say that to say and Shannon, I get

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Speaker 5: all of the eyeballs. I think what I was frustrated

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Speaker 5: players being jealous, yes, step that probably exists, but I

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Speaker 5: think in Caitlyn's debut since or since she has made

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Speaker 5: push Yes, that is Caitlyn versus the W, and that

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Speaker 6: Yeah jealous, sure, I mean, would you bean jalous?

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Speaker 5: Somebody got tory you know, a shoe.

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Speaker 6: Dealer, whatever, the dealer before you step foot in the pros.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: I just need us all to do a better job

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Speaker 5: As a rookie, Joe right, unc Lebron as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: a new fan. I had the opportunity Monica to see

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Speaker 5: Boom this new corner. He bye bye bla he all

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna do that. And tell me what percent

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Speaker 1: Probably probably about ninety eight percent, because there's a two

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Speaker 4: To have a conversation.

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Speaker 5: So I just I just want us to hear out

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Speaker 5: all agree that Kennedy Carter had a bad look. We

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is also Monica, who did the look,

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Speaker 2: I used the argument this morning Trent Green got hit

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Speaker 6: We're talking about bad inficiating across the NBA and WBA

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Speaker 5: That big of a deal.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it may agree.

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Speaker 4: That that's not what Twitter, that's not what we're treated.

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Speaker 2: And you know how Monica, You've been in TV long enough.

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Speaker 2: and two things can be true. People want to compete.

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Speaker 2: This was an isolated incident. There's not a whole lot

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Speaker 2: So let's look at this. This is what it was.

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Speaker 5: But I'm gonna tell y'all story. In college, we played

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Speaker 4: We were warming up home in y'all home stadium, and.

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Speaker 7: Dearly.

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Speaker 5: Somebody tripped up somebody from Louisville, and a brawling sued. Right,

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Speaker 4: You scrap?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 5: I grabbed the basketball and said.

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Speaker 6: Y'all stop, we gotta yam.

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Speaker 4: You know what hang to you.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying to you is if your DNA is not,

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Speaker 4: It look better who they are.

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Speaker 5: They go pick their teammate off the ground, They grab her,

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Speaker 6: We're not in their practices. I don't think that this

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Speaker 6: And y'all, they've won two games out of the eleven

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 4: Hold on, bro, there are other people out there playing

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Speaker 5: Now, come on, now, I know that this is not

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Speaker 6: Back to you.

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Speaker 5: Up when you were competing at a high level, if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying me anybody, anybody that had a name,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the way.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I. That's the way I. That's the

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Speaker 4: I just know.

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Speaker 5: So oh tra I love that, And this is where

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Speaker 6: But it's disrespectful to her.

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Speaker 5: She we talked to her two years ago in Dallas

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Speaker 6: So as a competitor, you'll want to body square up

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Speaker 5: And so for me, the fact that we've lost that

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Speaker 2: down in college? They saw that, And so now her

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Speaker 2: talking trash in college might intimidate some folks.

441
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Speaker 4: You come to the w these are grown women.

442
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: These women got kids, These women twenty five day, twenty eight,

443
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Speaker 2: they're thirty years of age.

444
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 4: They don't care.

445
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Speaker 2: But then like and like I said, Monica, you oh

446
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Speaker 2: you got the name. If I tear you up on

447
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Speaker 2: the court, right, they're gonna be talking about me.

448
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Speaker 1: You know what, I think, there's a there's a learning

449
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Speaker 1: curve as a rookie. My rookie year I was talking

450
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Speaker 1: trash in college. My rookie year in the NFL. Well,

451
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Speaker 1: I ain't say nothing. I didn't I didn't say nothing.

452
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Speaker 1: I didn't even talk to the media until I got

453
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Speaker 1: acclimated to the game. I understood the game, and the

454
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: game started to slow down, slow down for me. So

455
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Speaker 1: when your two came and I started talking once I

456
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: figured it out it was a rap. I'm sure at

457
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: some point Andeerie already talking since sister she hey, she

458
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Speaker 1: she letting it fly. As soon as Caitlin Clark gets

459
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Speaker 1: acclimated to the game and it starts to slow down

460
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Speaker 1: for she and she picks it up, I guarantee she

461
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Speaker 1: gonna be back to her talking her talking ways. I'm

462
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Speaker 1: sure based on what we saw at Iowa.

463
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Speaker 5: Mm hm, I think, oh Joe, you spot your spot

464
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 5: on right. And but I think part of what has

465
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Speaker 5: made this such a hot topic is that when a

466
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Speaker 5: goat like Cheryl Soops, who was a multi time gold medalist,

467
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Speaker 5: a four time w NBA champ, and umpteen time w

468
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 5: NBA all started a woman, I have her first, the

469
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Speaker 5: first woman to have a signature true for Nike. When

470
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Speaker 5: she said there was a curve, it was she was hated.

471
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Speaker 5: When Diana to Rossie said the curve at the Women's

472
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Speaker 5: Final four, she was hating.

473
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Speaker 6: And I think for the new fans, I get it,

474
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Speaker 6: y'all rolling with y'all, girl, you protected whatever, whatever, but

475
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 6: that wasn't hey, that was people that have been here

476
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 6: and watched this league. Those were truths, and that is okay,

477
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 6: that's part of all of our journeys.

478
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Speaker 5: You're gonna hit a curve at some point.

479
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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially for a guard.

480
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Speaker 2: See people look at I say, bro y'all expecting her

481
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Speaker 2: to be candas Parker when she comes back as rookie

482
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Speaker 2: of when Rookie of the Year and Cannis is six ' four,

483
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark might be what six foot Monica. So you're

484
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Speaker 2: asking a guard to do something that is dominant big

485
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Speaker 2: in college. Hey, Cannis Parking was legit. She could rebound,

486
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Speaker 2: got your double digit rebounds where she was a nineteen ten,

487
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Speaker 2: she was a defensive Player of the Year. She was tremendous,

488
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Speaker 2: And I think everybody you look at Caitlyn. She led

489
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Speaker 2: the nation in scoring at about thirty two points a game,

490
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: led the nation of an assist. So automatically people automatically think,

491
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Speaker 2: but she gonna come in and do a the NBA

492
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Speaker 2: them women will not let that happen. You play harder

493
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Speaker 2: against someone, it's just nature because you know they can

494
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Speaker 2: embarrass you. You're nothing embarrass me, You're nothing to have

495
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Speaker 2: me on Sports Center especially now, and I know EFP

496
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Speaker 2: really covering the WNBA. Are you I'm nothing to be

497
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Speaker 2: your highlight package. It ain't gonna happen, Monica. I'm sorry,

498
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Speaker 2: it's not I do.

499
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Speaker 5: When this conversation come back up and I'm not around,

500
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Speaker 5: I just want you to keep that same energy because

501
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: and to me, that is beautiful. That is the point

502
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Speaker 5: of competition and it should be celebrated.

503
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew Reeves had some comments today. Yeah, take a

504
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: listen to just found what Angel Reeves had to say today.

505
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Speaker 9: It all started from the National Championship game. And I've

506
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 9: been dealing with this for two years now and understanding like, yeah,

507
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 9: negative things have probably been said about me, but honestly,

508
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 9: I'll take that because look where women's basketball is. People

509
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 9: are talking about women's basketball. You never would think that

510
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 9: we talk about women's basketball. People are pulling up to games.

511
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Speaker 9: We got celebrities coming to games sold at arenas, like

512
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Speaker 9: just because of one single game, and just looking at that, like,

513
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Speaker 9: I'll take that role. I'll take the bad guy role,

514
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Speaker 9: and I'll continue to take that on and be that

515
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Speaker 9: for my teammates. And if I want to be that,

516
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Speaker 9: and I know I'll go down to history. I'll look

517
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Speaker 9: back at twenty years and be like, Yeah, the reason

518
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 9: why we're watching women's basketball is not just because of

519
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Speaker 9: one person.

520
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Speaker 4: It's because of me too.

521
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Speaker 9: And I want you to realize that a lot of

522
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 9: us have done so much for this game. And Kennedy

523
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 9: has been here before, obviously, but there are so many

524
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Speaker 9: great players in this league that have deserved this for

525
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 9: a really, really long time, and luckily it's coming down.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk yo, track, what you talk about man watching

527
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: the game because of me?

528
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Speaker 4: And she ain't lad because I'm one of them. Did

529
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Speaker 4: you talk about thoughts? Thoughts on her comments? Monica? I

530
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Speaker 4: love it. I love it.

531
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Speaker 5: But and this is where we talk about, you're not

532
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 5: gonna turn into somebody different overnight. Andres has never shot

533
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 5: away from the mic. She's willing to wear that villain label,

534
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: however unfair it may be, but she gets it in

535
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Speaker 5: the Macro And what I love about Angel, even when

536
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 5: she announced she was going pro and Vogue, she speaks

537
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: about the Macro and she does that deliberately. That is

538
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Speaker 5: not just oh, I'm gonna just throw in the women

539
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 5: that have come before me, right, And I think that

540
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 5: is important in what makes and what is endearing about

541
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Speaker 5: watching her? But she's absolutely right.

542
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Speaker 6: The girl I'm sorry I don't know her name, but

543
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Speaker 6: the girl.

544
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Speaker 5: Streamed a Sky's preseason game on her phone, y'all and

545
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Speaker 5: had im teen tens of thousands of viewers that.

546
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Speaker 7: Were it was.

547
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Speaker 4: Wasn't it like an over a million it?

548
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

549
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Speaker 5: So there is a man she absolutely has been a

550
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Speaker 5: part of creating that that demand. She's a huge part

551
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 5: of this rookie class as well.

552
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Speaker 2: Well, we can't, we can't let Pat McAfee. I guess

553
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Speaker 2: he watched us this morning and he was he had

554
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: some coffee, he probably had an energy drink.

555
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Speaker 4: Do we have this sound? We can't play a side?

556
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Speaker 4: Uh who? Monica? Well, I know you heard. I know

557
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Speaker 4: you've heard it. I heard it now.

558
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Speaker 2: I think Pat got a little bit too amp. He

559
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Speaker 2: forgot like, man, this live this. You know, normally we

560
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Speaker 2: have a conversation like this, Monica, you and I, you

561
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: and your girls off air. But we got a microphone

562
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Speaker 2: and we got a camera with a red dot going.

563
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Speaker 2: So what did you what what did you think when

564
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Speaker 2: you heard p mac start going?

565
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Speaker 5: So I didn't actually watch it, but I read the

566
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Speaker 5: transcript in all articles.

567
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Speaker 7: That came down.

568
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Speaker 5: Honestly, y'all, my first thought was, Okay, here we go

569
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 5: with this not being about race from a person who

570
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: is late, right, And again, this is where I say,

571
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 5: and I'm speaking honestly, clearly, concisely, this is where I say,

572
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 5: multiple things can be true, right. I wonder what this

573
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 5: would look like if Kaylyn Clark was black. She's proud

574
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 5: of who she is. That's fantastic, right. But this is

575
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: where all the layers of this conversation come in. The

576
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: UNBA is a predominantly black women's league, but it's also

577
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 5: largely a queer league, right, and the gender sexuality race.

578
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 5: It's hard to parse this out of that conversation, at

579
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Speaker 5: least for me as a woman, because I can't walk

580
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: away from any part of who I am, right, and

581
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 5: so his point about the other white chickens in the

582
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: league that I've been bucket sure Stewing's the MVP.

583
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Speaker 4: He he is one MOP.

584
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Speaker 5: Championship with the Las veig Dt. Obviously we had a

585
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 5: conversation about her as a go, right, But to act

586
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 5: as if there is no space to sit back and

587
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 5: just wonder again, all.

588
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 6: I'm asking for, folks, that have just joined is to

589
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 6: open your mind. Ultimately, you may disagree, and that's fine,

590
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 6: but you should be.

591
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: Able to be able to hold space to evaluate all

592
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 5: the pieces that seem to be at play. Now, if

593
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 5: you decide to pick up three instead of six, that's

594
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: on you. But you got to be able to sit

595
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: back and acknowledge all the pieces at play, just out

596
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 5: of out of respect for humanity at large.

597
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Speaker 2: I would say, Monica, you said something very interesting and

598
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: you would know better than I.

599
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: But I was thinking this, but I never said it.

600
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: But since you brought it up, let's go here.

601
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: How much do you think predominantly black queer helps or

602
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: hurt the WNBA.

603
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: That's a loaded question, Shannon. I think the w in

604
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: the last few years has done a great job of

605
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 5: leaning into who they are.

606
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 6: They are not hiding who these women are, and these

607
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: women are hiding who they are.

608
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: One thing about this rookie class has been their willingness

609
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: to share their lives. But I had a chance to

610
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 5: catch a great documentary this summer, a courtesy of the

611
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 5: WNBAPA and I'm blanking on the name of the documentary,

612
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: and I apologize, but it highlighted John Cuael Jones, Brianna

613
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: Stewart and Unka a Guomaka right, and as veterans in

614
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: this league, JJ's been an MVPNKA, Goomke has won a

615
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 5: title and been an mvpubs been a multi time MVP

616
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: and one championships. As veterans, they talked very honestly about

617
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: opening up their lives right, because that was a big

618
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 5: choice for them. And one of the commentators, Lindsay Gibbs

619
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: and that at piece talked about being able to enjoy

620
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 5: this league and celebrate these women even more when you

621
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: get to know them, right, And I think that star

622
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: power of this rookie class growing up with social media

623
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Speaker 5: Kaitlin has two million, Angel has three million, Right, They've

624
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: already been used to sharing their lives and so I

625
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: think the w has leaneded on who they are. But

626
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: as new audiences are getting to know these women, hopefully

627
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: they find a way to strike a chord with them

628
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 5: beyond just being basketball players. And so candidly, I'm not

629
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure what happens in marketing meetings when

630
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: you begin to look at who you want to partner

631
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Speaker 5: with with the w MBA, because like we started this conversation,

632
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 5: gender race and sexuality are parts of conversations that you

633
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 5: just cannot escape.

634
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: The documentary you're talking about is called Shattered Glass. There

635
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: is NBA story.

636
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 7: Thank you.

637
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad you have this conversation because at the end

638
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: of the day, you're like people like, well, go market,

639
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: go market, but at certain times, you know, certain certain

640
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: demographics you're trying to market too, because like when we

641
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: go out, okay, we have to pitch.

642
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: Okay, who are you trying to who are you trying

643
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: to reach?

644
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: We we Club Shay Shape, Nightcap, We might not be

645
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: able to reach wo an advertise or a sponsor try

646
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: to reach. So it doesn't make sense for them to

647
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: give us money if the people that they're trying to

648
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: reach are not watching Nightcap, not watching Club Sha Shape, Right,

649
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: And so what you're saying, Monica's like, okay, we got

650
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: to appeal to the people that you're trying to reach.

651
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: But to say that gay and queer people don't buy

652
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: help and don't buy auto insurance, it's just not true

653
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: to say.

654
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: To say they don't go grocery shopping or buy cars,

655
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: it's just not true.

656
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: So they are people, they might have chosen an alternative

657
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: life and that's outside of the norm. Whatever norm is.

658
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Speaker 2: There's a new definition of norm now. But I believe

659
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Speaker 2: that you can reach people because everybody that watches television,

660
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: they're a consumer. You buy something, whether it's food, whether

661
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Speaker 2: it's auto insurance with this, whatever the clothing, whatever the

662
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Speaker 2: case may be, and they'll purchase something.

663
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Speaker 1: And when it comes to marketing and branding and WNBA

664
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Speaker 1: and those that are queer are part of that community

665
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Speaker 1: in general, that community to always sticks, always sticks together

666
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Speaker 1: and support each other, so that marketing on that end

667
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: should be easy anyway, it's common sense, especially when it

668
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Speaker 1: comes to the higher ups in the execs that are

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Speaker 1: sitting in positions of power. That's a no brainer as

670
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Speaker 1: far as going to come to marketing and branding and

671
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: doing it that way. Now, if they if they want

672
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: some ideas, you know, from the true number one marketing

673
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Speaker 1: and brander himself, I can I can guide them in

674
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Speaker 1: which way.

675
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: To go and on how to do it. Listen, that's

676
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Speaker 4: what I did.

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Speaker 5: You might need to get some boardroom tables on shrub Monica.

678
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because you know a lot

679
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: of times black we used to have like who is

680
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: in that room? Why are you talking trying to monitor,

681
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: you know, market the blacks, and there's no blacks in

682
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: the commercial. Would it help if there were queer gay

683
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: in the rooms that can say, hey, guys, they have

684
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: purchasing power. I don't know, I'm in California, man, they

685
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: shut down. We hope gay pride is a big thing.

686
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: That so somebody drinking beers, buy cocktail and buy a

687
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Speaker 2: clothes mark.

688
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Speaker 4: I just say it, somebody doing.

689
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Speaker 5: That, yeah, and listen. The marketing has improved, right, But

690
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: if we wanted to get into the weeds and gosh,

691
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: oh man, I should have pulled up all my research

692
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: because there was a wonderful article done I want to

693
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: say about two seasons ago that looked at what demographic

694
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: still in terms of representing the WNBA still got the

695
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Speaker 5: line's share of marketing opportunities, and it was largely straight

696
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: white women. Now in two years, I do believe that

697
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: there have been improvements made in that area. Right, And

698
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 5: like I said, the WBAS leaned into who they are.

699
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Speaker 5: These women are leaning int who they are. There's a

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Speaker 5: number of queer athletes out of w that I could

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Speaker 5: think of that have had commercials and are currently in

702
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Speaker 5: commercials that are still airing and it's beautiful to see.

703
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: And so I do think that things are changing. But

704
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Speaker 5: just like in society, y'all, as painful as it is.

705
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: Right when we start having conversations about this societal totem pole,

706
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: people especially women that sit at identities shout out to

707
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: doctor Alfie, my girl that have intersectional identities often don't

708
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 5: have privilege, and so they're minimalized a little bit or

709
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 5: not a little bit if they become minimalized. And so

710
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: that again, that's a whole nother loaded conversation. And I'm

711
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: not trying to tell anybody that they can't be a

712
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: fan of this player or that player. But as you

713
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 5: join this WNBA fanfare, welcome. It's room for everybody. There

714
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: have been twenty eight years of groundworking and there have

715
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: been numbers of opportunities of research, right, and then when

716
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: you look at the demographics of this league, like just

717
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 5: keep your mind open to what is the reality of

718
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: someone else's experience that may not look like That's the

719
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Speaker 5: part that's frustrated to me in this conversation y'all, Like

720
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: one to hear ex athletes say, oh, just let her

721
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Speaker 5: do whatever, and two folks that aren't taking the time

722
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Speaker 5: to just do a little bit of digging about what

723
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Speaker 5: the WNBA has been, how powerful these women have used

724
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Speaker 5: their voices, what they stand for.

725
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Speaker 2: Because it's beautiful it is, and thank you for opening

726
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: up and sharing that with us. I mean, you know,

727
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: you being around the game, you play in the game,

728
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Speaker 2: you being a woman, yourself, You're better to speak to

729
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Speaker 2: this in OHO than I because you're in that situation.

730
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Speaker 2: There's no better person to speak to about a woman

731
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Speaker 2: than a woman. And so sometimes you know, as men,

732
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: we try to sit back and try to I don't

733
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Speaker 2: know what it's like to have a baby, never had one, YadA,

734
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Speaker 2: I don't want them kind of problem. So I like

735
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Speaker 2: women when women talk about women and su Yeah, I

736
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Speaker 2: can have an opinion, but I'm just speaking at it

737
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: from a man's point of view. And sometimes we only

738
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Speaker 2: see things through the prism in which we are. You know,

739
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Speaker 2: if I'm looking from a mountaintop, I don't know what

740
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: it's like in the valley because I'm on top of

741
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Speaker 2: the mountain looking out. You being a woman playing basketball,

742
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Speaker 2: playing in the w NBA. Who better to speak to

743
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Speaker 2: issues like this than a person like yourself? But how

744
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: often do how often when things like this. Do the

745
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Speaker 2: W NBA, the PA, do they have you speak to

746
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Speaker 2: the women that's coming into it. How many times do

747
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Speaker 2: you go out and speak the women's group. Being who

748
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Speaker 2: you are, being the platform that you do have, are

749
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Speaker 2: you giving those opportunities to speak speak up for women?

750
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Speaker 5: So I was gonna let you rock with this, but

751
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: I gotta check you one thing on my resume. I

752
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: decided that I was done after college and wasn't all

753
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 5: the dabbling I did not play in the W But also.

754
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to get with the chad otro Sico

755
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 6: agency to get me some more speaking engagements.

756
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Speaker 1: Whatever you need, listen, listen. I have a marketing firm,

757
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: a brand in firm. So anything you need, just just

758
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: holler at me. I can I can get the ball rolling.

759
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: I got you.

760
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, all jokes aside. I have had the opportunity to

761
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 5: speak not just to women's teams, but like last year,

762
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: I had a chance to talk to rap with the

763
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Rams right and just offering a different perspectives.

764
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 5: As a member of the media, I do know that

765
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 5: our friends and colleagues of China Robertson and that Gounke

766
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: led a great media preparation session for the rookies coming

767
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 5: in this season. And so the w and the PA

768
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: are about giving their players resources, as are the NBA. Right,

769
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: and so the league is just continuing to grow. And

770
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: when you talk about this male counterpart, it has a

771
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: fifty year head.

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Speaker 2: Start, right, mad God, the thing there is a lot

773
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Speaker 2: of times and people it's like, well, I think the

774
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: thing what really got it trending at the end is

775
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: that with Steve you said, Steven A, you had this

776
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: platform and you're doing it now, but you probably should

777
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Speaker 2: have done this a lot sooner. Me I'm address that,

778
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: but I have club Shayshape and people like, well, why

779
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: do you have more women. I've reached out to women

780
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: that played or played in the WNBA, and I get

781
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: no returns. I've had one lady, she's not a professional

782
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: basketball player. Two days before she's like, I'm gonna have

783
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: to reschedule, and now my team can't get a hold

784
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: of her. So I've tried to give women because hey,

785
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: I got a nice sized platform. So I want to

786
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: give you an opportunity to share tell whatever story that

787
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: you want to tell. You want to talk about your upbringing,

788
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: you want to talk about your life as a professional athlete,

789
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: you as an entertainer or a celeft have at it.

790
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 2: But it's not as easy as you think, Monica, because

791
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: a lot of times women say no, I'm.

792
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Speaker 5: About to stop you right now.

793
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 6: I believe you, but I'm gonna also say this because

794
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 6: I had to think twice before I say yes, because

795
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 6: I don't seen some night cap clips okay, and you

796
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 6: you have to ask yourself is this a safe space? Right?

797
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 5: And so I believe when you say you want to

798
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 5: have that conversation, right, But I think because of the

799
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: opportunities to brand for women are a little bit hold on,

800
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: let me get my words right. The opportunities for women

801
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: to build their brands are so heavily scrutinized, right that

802
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: you probably think more dutifully before you say yes to

803
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: an opportunity, depending on how it fits and it you

804
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: feel that the space is safe. So I don't know

805
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 5: why people are saying yes or no to you. But honestly,

806
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: like if we had this thing this morning, like I

807
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 5: would not have thought of myself as a nightcap guest,

808
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: just based on the clips that I've seen and I met.

809
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 5: I've met utr one person I obviously met you one person.

810
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: I think y'all are great guys, but like, ah, I'm

811
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: not going to tell y'all what go goes down in

812
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 5: my bedroom, like right, And so you do just wonder

813
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 5: if spaces are safe, and so as you continue to

814
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 5: grow your platform, I would encourage you maybe to offer

815
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: the topics in the bands. And you may have done

816
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: this already, right.

817
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 2: I always ask any guests, is there anything that you're

818
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with? I ask a question you can You can

819
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: also say with Shannon, you know that question that you

820
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: asked earlier I talked about can you not air that booth?

821
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: We take it out?

822
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I want you to be most of the

823
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: time when people come, they're speaking their truth. Now, if

824
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: I ask you a question and you tell me what

825
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: we're down in your bedroom?

826
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: How that? How am I being messy? You could have said, Shanny,

827
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Speaker 4: Now you know i'nna answer that.

828
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: Now I am savvy, but I don't know if you

829
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 6: might feel a little pressure to keep up with Jonas

830
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 6: on night people.

831
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Speaker 5: Now y'all get a little follow.

832
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Speaker 2: Here, yo, Yeah we get. But see that's the thing

833
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: they come for the sports, they stay for the story.

834
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: So you know, you know it's kind of like Monica

835
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: a game. Let's just say, for the sake of argument,

836
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: I'll let you to a the arena for free? What

837
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: I charge you to get out?

838
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 7: Now?

839
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 5: Listen all jokes aside, I do want to address the

840
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: end of that clip. I genuinely was surprised by the reaction,

841
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: and I did not intend to make it personal. But

842
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: when I look at steven A, in my relationship with

843
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: steven A, he not your ESPN as far as I'm concerned.

844
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 5: And I've been in this Simon's basketball space for so

845
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: long and have been privy to many a conversation pushing

846
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: and pitching and asking for space. So as from where

847
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: I sit, if Essay says let's talk about it, It's

848
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: going to be discussed.

849
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: Right.

850
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 5: He and I've had a conversation tonight. Okay? Cool.

851
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: There are things that played that maybe I did not

852
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 6: consider when I made that statement, But what I do

853
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 6: stand by is that the way that the WNBA is

854
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 6: being covered in the last this season just started in May,

855
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: this particular season is at a different.

856
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 5: Fervor and tenor than it was three years ago. Now,

857
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: whatever whatever factors go into that, be as it may.

858
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Speaker 5: But three years ago we were not having these conversations

859
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: about the w NBA as we are now, and that

860
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 5: is just a fact.

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00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we wouldn't have having this conversation three months ago,

862
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: fair enough, But you said, Monica, it is.

863
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: Never too late to do the right thing.

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00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think that people be like, oh, nobody

865
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: was about like you. I heard you at the end

866
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: of that show. You Lucky Motley had to go to break.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about something, Monica.

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00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 6: You've proven his point because nobody was talking about Kayla

869
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 6: Clark after three years. I heard your own southern stass

870
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 6: back there.

871
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: Now, this is where this is where we have to

872
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 5: really argue and tussle with this idea of cart before

873
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 5: the horse, or or or horse before the cart, right.

874
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 5: And I know we done TV work shanting just like

875
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: you said, Ojo, we talk about the cowboys, you can

876
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 5: talk about the Lakers like there are these things that hit.

877
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: And so I understand the idea that the WNBA may

878
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: not have been drawing the same numbers that it is

879
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 5: now three years ago. But again, two things can be true.

880
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: That doesn't necessarily mean that those women prior to the

881
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 5: arrival of this rookie class, we're still not worthy of

882
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 5: coverage right go follow.

883
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: Right now, Shane h I n e y. That's our

884
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: social media. Is that Twitter and IG that's both on

885
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: the right. That's everything, very very very simple. Janay, we

886
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: had we were trending again. It seems like every time

887
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: we have you a monaca, y'all start treading.

888
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

889
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: So we were having a very nuanced conversation and you

890
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: you shed some light as being a number one overall

891
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: draft pick coming up in the system, the under eighteen,

892
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: the under twenty, you were in the rotation plan overseas

893
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: go and winning gold medals for America, your sister number

894
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: one overall pick, an MVP, a champion never being selected.

895
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: So you provided a lot of insight that a lot

896
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: of people are not able to provide. So Stephen and

897
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: and I took the approach that, look, we thank Caitlin

898
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: Clark best players. She goes, she stays, we believe the

899
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: America the women will win the gold medal. You like, yeah,

900
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: I understand, Stevin A. Shanna, I understand the marketing aspect,

901
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: we understand the eyeball that she would join. But you

902
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: had a very different approach of why you don't believe

903
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: that she was selected and you didn't have a I

904
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: don't think you had a problem with her not being selected.

905
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: So I want to oah you and I want to

906
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: open the floor up to you and let you go

907
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: into great detail, because you know, when you're on television,

908
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 2: you got to get.

909
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: To the top of the hole. You got to get

910
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 4: it to the break.

911
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: You got four or five people, and even though we

912
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: have three people, we're gonna open the floor up to

913
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: you toenay tell us what's going on in this situation.

914
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: Sure, I think the hardest thing is that oftentimes when

915
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 6: we're in a debate format, people are more concerned with

916
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 6: entertainment than the truth. And the truth is that I

917
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: have a lot of lived experience into why she probably

918
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: was not selected. And I said Coore, it's largely based

919
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 6: off of experience. I don't know if people realize that.

920
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: Earlier this year, team USA almost lost to Belgium. It

921
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 6: took a buzzer beater by Breonna Stewart to win. The

922
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 6: rest of the world is coming. I don't know. If

923
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 6: you followed the US women's national team, you saw what

924
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 6: happened with the men. I know we didn't send our

925
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 6: best squad over there. But over the last summer saw

926
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 6: the international competition. If you look at the NBA right now,

927
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 6: who was dominating the league in some regards the last

928
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 6: year your players. The game has changed and I really

929
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 6: do give a lot of credit as it pertains to

930
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 6: basketball to the foreside of the NBA. The NBA has

931
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 6: wanted to make this a global game. I'm Nigerian. The

932
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 6: only other professional basketball league outside of the NBA in

933
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 6: the WNBA is the Basketball Africa League, who just had

934
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 6: competition and championships. They're really putting their work into growing

935
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 6: the global game. But at the end of the day,

936
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 6: that helps everyone rise, and I think people haven't realized

937
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 6: the level of competition is so fierce that you don't

938
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 6: want to take a chance of at this iteration potentially

939
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 6: maybe having a player that has no familiarity with the roster,

940
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 6: no experience at that high level. I think the youngest

941
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 6: player on the roster is probably Sabrina Yanescu, who's a

942
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: first time Olympian, but we've seen what she's done in

943
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 6: the league. They're the previous Olympians. They've all had nine

944
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 6: at least nine players have had Olympic experience. So like

945
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 6: if you look at what they constructed. They know that

946
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 6: the world is coming. And then I think, at the

947
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 6: end of the day, like we're people that are all fans, right, Like,

948
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 6: the reason why we have the jobs we have is

949
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 6: because we love sports. We love it at the highest level.

950
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 6: We appreciate the moment that the women's game is at.

951
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 6: We want that moment to carry over, but it can't

952
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: come at the expense of what the Olympic mission is

953
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: and it's too metal And I think that's the one

954
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 6: thing people are sort of missing in all of this.

955
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 6: The goals of Team USA, by criteria is to assemble

956
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 6: the best team, a team where your players are set

957
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 6: up for success. And I think based off of the

958
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: popularity of Caitlin Clark, people think that that shouldn't matter.

959
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 6: But that is the central mission. And I don't know

960
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 6: if this is like this certain circumstance is setting Caitlin

961
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 6: up for success, her not playing with the team, her

962
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 6: not having experience out there as much as the other women.

963
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 6: There's a lot of factors that go into these types

964
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 6: of decisions that are the reality and not like our

965
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 6: dream for what we want the women's game to be.

966
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 6: The women's game has always been the most competitive league

967
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 6: in the world, and then you whittle that down and

968
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 6: now this is the most competitive team in the world.

969
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 6: That's what it's consistently been. That's the reason why they've

970
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: won seven Olympic gold medals straight. They don't want to

971
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 6: deviate from that just because of what people deem is

972
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: popular or what people deem is Oh, this is a

973
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: move for business. The business that they want to handle

974
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: is winning on the floor. That's always been Team USA's priority.

975
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 6: And I think because of the expectation that surrounds Caitlyn Clark,

976
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 6: people think it should shift TEAMSA said, no, it's not

977
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 6: going to because that's not what we've always done.

978
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 10: But I think and I agree with what she said.

979
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: I think Caitlin Clark will have her time knowing the player,

980
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: knowing the player that she has been based on what

981
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: I've been able to see when she was at Iowa,

982
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: based on what I've seen so far and their short

983
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: standing in WNBA. She likes the fact that she wasn't picked.

984
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: It gives us some to strive for. Like she said,

985
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: they created a monster. This is something going to strive

986
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: for and being able to represent your country at some

987
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: point if it's not right now later on down the road, obviously, again,

988
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: the resume of the ladies that are part of Team

989
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: USA are those that have chemistry together. They played well together,

990
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: and they have an extensive resume of work, a body

991
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: of work that they put in, which is why they've

992
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: all they've all been a symbol like the Avengers to

993
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: represent our country.

994
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: You do you believe that the twelve best women are

995
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: on this team?

996
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 6: I do. Now, there are some areas that I am

997
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: concerned about. And let's get personal for a second. Okay, guys,

998
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: because you know what's hilarious whatever. You woke up so

999
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 6: big mad that Caitlyn Clark did not make the team

1000
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: because everyone's look bored to her having the spotlight and

1001
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: the biggest moments.

1002
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 5: This is how I felt personally when.

1003
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 6: I didn't make a team a couple of years.

1004
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: This show how my.

1005
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 6: Sister felt as the only MVP that never made an

1006
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 6: Olympic roster. It was heartbreaking, it was devastating. And y'all

1007
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 6: will have blood in a game. I got blood in

1008
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 6: the game.

1009
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 7: Now I understand.

1010
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 6: I understand that Caitlyn has the eyeballs that no player

1011
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 6: who has picked up a ball has ever had before,

1012
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 6: so I'm not saying that my circumstance or my sister's

1013
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 6: circumstance should have been anything different, But I just think

1014
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 6: it's funny because I'm like, y'all really care for the

1015
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 6: right reasons, because you want to see the game grow.

1016
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 6: But I do think there's a difference between women and

1017
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 6: men in you know, in the WNBA and women's basketball,

1018
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 6: our approach to the game is to honor the game,

1019
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 6: to respect the game, to play the game the right way.

1020
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 6: For so many years, people have been critical. Our league

1021
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 6: has been joked about for a long time. So many

1022
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 6: people come in with preconceived notions about what women's basketball is.

1023
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 6: And yes, Caitlyn is a part of changing that narrative,

1024
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: but that doesn't mean we change our entire sport. That

1025
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 6: doesn't mean that we change the integrity to which we

1026
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 6: assemble rosters to go win Olympic goal. That doesn't mean

1027
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 6: we change how we compete on the floor. And I

1028
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 6: know you were talking to me about competing, like to

1029
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 6: know that hard felt was a competition. You know what

1030
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 6: Kaitlyn said, Kaylen says the next day, this happens in

1031
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 6: the heat of competition, people lose that cool. But we

1032
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 6: keep it pushing, you know what I'm saying, So like,

1033
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 6: as women we have let me tell you something up

1034
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 6: and oho, we have not played for the Patriots. We

1035
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 6: are playing for the legacy. We are playing for our reputation.

1036
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 6: We are playing because we are upholding the standard to

1037
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 6: which women's basketball has dominated, even though so many people

1038
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 6: have been critical of us. And so when we keep

1039
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 6: that same energy when it comes to picking the Olympic roster,

1040
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 6: people are like, oh, you don't know what's good for you.

1041
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: Y'all didn't care beforehand. But we are consistent in how

1042
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 6: we approach the game. I'm talking you like, I don't

1043
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 6: know how many times I have to say it, like

1044
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 6: for people to understand it. It's hard because like today

1045
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 6: I sit on air and I'm like, I've been in

1046
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 6: those rooms when I'm about to get cut. You know

1047
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, I've been in those rooms watching people

1048
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 6: make their dreams come true. It is a process that

1049
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 6: is sanctified. It is a process that is honorable. It

1050
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 6: is a process that Caitlyn has accepted herself. You know

1051
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

1052
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 4: I don't think she has much choice.

1053
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 6: She doesn't have a choice, but you're right, But she

1054
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 6: did have a choice to react to so many different things,

1055
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 6: but look at how she reacted to that one.

1056
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1057
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing is she was always gonna take

1058
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: the high road. They hard filer. Oh that's in the

1059
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: heat of the competition, or there are a lot of

1060
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: great you know. The thing is that she has an

1061
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: imaged uphold and a lot of times saying the right

1062
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: things when you could easily say the wrong thing. I

1063
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: think that's a part of it. Like you, you could

1064
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: have been like, hold on, I've come up through the

1065
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: ranks playing sixteen, seventeen, under eighteen, I was under twenty

1066
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: and hold on, So you're talking about experience, I've got

1067
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: international experience. Now it's a problem your sisters, I'm a champion.

1068
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 4: Oh now, what's the excuse?

1069
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 7: Now?

1070
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 5: Nah, you know what's.

1071
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 6: Crazy because the conversation was about marketing, and this is

1072
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 6: how you need to know about marketing. I'm like, bro,

1073
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 6: we've been suffering from other people trying to market our

1074
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 6: league and not accepting the authentic nature of the competitors,

1075
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 6: the athletes that we are. Right now, you think we

1076
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 6: don't know about marketing. We've been shaking down the roof

1077
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 6: to try to get marketed the way that we want to.

1078
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 6: We want people to see the trash talk. We want

1079
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 6: people to see the competitive fire. We want people to

1080
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 6: challenge each other. We want people to see us as

1081
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 6: the badass female athletes that we are. But now it's like, oh,

1082
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 6: you guys don't know. We've been fighting to be ourselves

1083
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 6: for so long and finally society has the eyes to

1084
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 6: be like, oh, this is women's basketball, Oh this is hoops.

1085
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: The problem is is that some people have come in

1086
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 6: just through the lens of one player, not understanding how

1087
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 6: the entire ecosystem works.

1088
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Yes, I do.

1089
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 6: That's the frustrating part. But we accept it because we

1090
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 6: understand that growth is necessary, even including all of these growing.

1091
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: Big The funny thing when I think about it, obviously

1092
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: being a new fan to the w NBA and just

1093
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: learning about it, obviously going to a dream dream game

1094
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: me a month ago and seeing a few players playing.

1095
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: Now becoming a little bit more knowledgical about the game

1096
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: in itself, I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying the transham.

1097
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 6: How are the vibes in Atlanta? Tell me how many

1098
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 6: vibes in atlant.

1099
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 10: I've never been to the club. I haven't been to

1100
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 10: the club since like nineteen ninety nine.

1101
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: But if I had to give you an if I

1102
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: had to give an example or an analogy on what

1103
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: it's like, that's what the Dream Game was like. But

1104
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: on top of that, the Dallas Wings, the Dallas Wings

1105
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: and dream Game was excited on the court. Forget what

1106
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: was going on off the court, because off the court

1107
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: made what was going on on the court that much

1108
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: that much even better.

1109
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 10: So I was really excited.

1110
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping UNC when we're going a little tour

1111
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: we can you know, every season we go to there's

1112
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: a WNA w NBA team, So I'm hoping we can

1113
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: attend a game.

1114
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 10: So he can he can get that same experience.

1115
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: Wait, this is nightcap right, Yes, So.

1116
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 6: A lot of people see me on air and they

1117
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 6: understand facts and figures. People don't really know me. I

1118
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 6: don't share myself too much, Like this is the right

1119
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 6: format for me to share. You said you haven't been

1120
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 6: to the club. I'll tell you a story about the

1121
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 6: club in Atlanta. So you thought you guys know me.

1122
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 6: I'm like a wholesome lady. Yes, okay, a wholesome lady

1123
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 6: I don't do too much. Y'all don't see me outside

1124
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 6: too much. But you know I did secure something, so.

1125
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: You know, so yeah, you went, I got it, you

1126
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: would I got okay, okay, okay, okay.

1127
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 6: So this is one of the things. I went to

1128
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 6: Atlanta and my teammates they be moving around, they'd be outside,

1129
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 6: and one of our games at that time was like

1130
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 6: nine pm, so we didn't finish until maybe eleven, and

1131
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 6: I was looking on my phone. I was like, y'all,

1132
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 6: game's over. We got the dub. I was like, man,

1133
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 6: I'm hungry. I need something to eat, but everything's closed.

1134
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 6: One of my teammates from like, oh, you know, I'm

1135
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 6: from out here. I know where we can go. It's

1136
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 6: always open. I was like, okay, cool. I just trusted her.

1137
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 6: I just trusted her. Was it was it Cheetah? Is

1138
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 6: it called Cheetah?

1139
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: Is that Magic City?

1140
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 6: Was it? It wasn't Magic City?

1141
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 4: You got the Cheetah right down the street on Spring Street.

1142
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1143
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 6: That's where I want. She said, Look, it's all open.

1144
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 6: I was eating my post game meal we and then

1145
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 6: looked up in side cheeks.

1146
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 7: Like that.

1147
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 6: Was my post game meal. So yeah, when you say

1148
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 6: you don't go to the clubs. I don't go to

1149
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 6: the club either, but I still end up there because

1150
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 6: it'd be like that.

1151
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 10: That experience is. I've been trying to explain it to people,

1152
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 10: but words, words don't work. Words don't work. It's like

1153
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 10: trying to explain soccer to people.

1154
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: You'll never understand until you're actually in the stands and

1155
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: you're able to experience it yourself.

1156
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 6: So those are the best ways I had.

1157
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 4: By the way, That's what I try to tell people.

1158
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: People think i'd be live when I say because they

1159
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: be having five stars chefs, they'd be having chefs that

1160
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: worked at find restaurants and casinos and things of that nature.

1161
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: No, they really be putting it down in that I

1162
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: like it.

1163
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 6: I learned it. I learned it post game. That was

1164
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 6: my post game meal.

1165
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: But here what I've tried to tell him, everybody vibe

1166
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: ain't like Atlanta. Atlanta is a different vibe. You go

1167
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: to the Hawks game, you go to the Dream game,

1168
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: you go to the soccer game, you go to the stadium,

1169
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Mercedes being it's a different Bible, Yo, So everybody don't

1170
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: vibe like the eight. So you expected, like every reader

1171
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: that you go to it's gonna be like a club

1172
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: said it. Nah, they got barber's chairs, they got everything

1173
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: going on in the stadium, canay you said, feeding the ecosystem.

1174
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: I remember like when they came out with the team

1175
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four. They put Mellow, they put

1176
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: d Wade, they put Lebron. I'm not so sure at

1177
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: that time that we can make a case that all

1178
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: three of those guys were one of the best twelve,

1179
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: but they understood that Lebron and his oppularity probably needed

1180
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: to be on that team as well as some of

1181
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: the other guys, and so growing the game, Like you said,

1182
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: once the Dream Team, the original Dream Team happened in

1183
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: ninety two, the world started like oh okay, and so

1184
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: that grew it. I can't recall but one foreign born

1185
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: a female player, Lauren Jackson, and I'm sure you know

1186
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: who that is that I can consistently say that she

1187
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: was a top five, top ten player in the WNBA.

1188
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: Has the world really caught up? Do they have?

1189
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't send them over here to the WNBA

1190
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: and they just play on their club team. But has

1191
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 2: the world really caught up to us that quickly?

1192
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 10: Oh?

1193
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think so. I mean, if you look, this

1194
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 6: is the first generation of players that have the benefit

1195
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 6: of learning from YouTube. When we grew up watching sports,

1196
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 6: how do we learn from the backyard going from our coaches.

1197
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 6: I'd go to AA to listen to a coach that

1198
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 6: was just the parent of a daughter that was there.

1199
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 6: Now people can watch the games globally, people can watch

1200
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 6: the skills and go practice it instantly. There's more infrastructure

1201
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 6: to support sports. And then on top of it, we

1202
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 6: have people on the women's game that are not showing

1203
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 6: up for the WNBA, taking seasons off just to practice

1204
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 6: with their national team because they understand that being on

1205
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: your national team is where you can really build your

1206
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 6: own marketing too, Like this is a place where you

1207
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 6: can be a star, whereas in the w maybe you

1208
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 6: are a role player, so you have teams. There's a

1209
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 6: woman named Emma Mesaman who plays for Belgium, I believe,

1210
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 6: who is one of the coldest people in WBA.

1211
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 7: Y'all.

1212
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 6: She's like Luca in a way, like she doesn't play

1213
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 6: faster than she needs to, She's gonna get her shot

1214
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 6: off and she's just effiicient. Now she's not like a guard,

1215
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 6: she's more of a forward. But my point is that

1216
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 6: she's cold. She's been playing with her team for two

1217
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 6: years straight. That's why it took a buzzer beater for

1218
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 6: USA earlier this year to beat them, because these women

1219
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 6: are competing year round, similar to us, but they also

1220
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 6: have the chemistry. They've been playing together since there were babies. Now,

1221
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 6: that's one of the things that we have the benefit

1222
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 6: of having so much talent that sometimes talent overwhelms. But nowadays,

1223
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 6: with the different international rules, with the increased skills set,

1224
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 6: just with the overall chemistry that these teams have been

1225
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 6: playing with forever, it's a little bit more challenging than

1226
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 6: we ever expected. That's why, like no one really says

1227
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 6: that USA winning or even whether it's the men winning,

1228
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 6: which we saw last summer, is just a walk in

1229
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: the park and assumption you have to go out there

1230
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 6: and earn it. And I'll lastly say this, I think

1231
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 6: that women's sports, you know, you know, that's saying you

1232
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 6: have to work twice as hard to get half as

1233
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 6: far right for people to really get the viewership, to

1234
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: get the respective feels like we always have to be perfect,

1235
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 6: we always have to be on. That's how women operate,

1236
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 6: not just in sports as a broadcaster, I always have

1237
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 6: to lead with the facts and the figures. I have

1238
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 6: to keep my feelings to the side, because the moment

1239
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 6: I show my feelings, people are like, oh, what does

1240
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 6: she know? Why does she feel like she can speak

1241
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: on X.

1242
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 10: Y and Z.

1243
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 6: That's just the nature that we're in. I'll say this

1244
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 6: and oho. People see you before they hear you. They

1245
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 6: judge you before they know you. So you have to

1246
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 6: go out there and be perfect. Why should we play

1247
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 6: loose and fast at times with the rules of who

1248
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 6: should be on the squad, which could compromise the integrity

1249
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 6: of the game when we know that we're being criticized regardless,

1250
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 6: we just have to be consistent in our pursuit of perfection. That,

1251
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 6: to me, is what it's like to be a woman,

1252
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 6: or to be a female athlete. That is the challenge

1253
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 6: that we're always up against. My sister always said, why

1254
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 6: are we catering to a group that only came just

1255
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 6: for this certain moment and not came to see the

1256
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 6: beauty of the entire landscape, the beauty of the entire ecosystem.

1257
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 6: We will accept, we will welcome, but we will not

1258
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 6: conform to something that has not made us better individually.

1259
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 6: What made us the best is that we go up

1260
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 6: against the best each and every night. You know what

1261
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying, right, So there's things that make the way

1262
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 6: women approach sports because we are constantly dealing with criticism

1263
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 6: different than men. And I think it's okay. I think

1264
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 6: it's perfectly okay.

1265
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: Dude, what do you say to the people that says okay, yeah,

1266
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: they might have not been here before, but they're here now.

1267
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, you know, we have this.

1268
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: Okay, you're thirty, you're thirty thirty one years of age,

1269
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: and well you got married at thirty thirty one, and

1270
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: so what somebody saying that dangshnee? They probably will say,

1271
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: what's taking you so long? It doesn't matter when it happened.

1272
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: Is that the fact that it did happen. And we

1273
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: understand that Kaitlin Clark came with a different with a

1274
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: different lens than anybody in the history of the game

1275
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: because of the Nil situation, because of the marketing brand

1276
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: that was behind her. And we know why, we know

1277
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: how to get into the nuances. We know why because

1278
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: it was a perfect storm. But how about we take

1279
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: this perfect storm and why it's spinning we let it

1280
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: sweep up everybody that's in its path, which is the WNBA.

1281
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 6: Well, I think the difference here is because she has

1282
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 6: gotten everything that she has needed in some regards with

1283
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 6: this is the first time that she perse has been

1284
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 6: denied something that people are surprised by. She got number one.

1285
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 6: She is the face of a new franchise. She's honestly,

1286
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 6: unfortunately considered by many that how are new to this?

1287
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 6: The face of the WNBA and one of the most

1288
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 6: popular faces now in American sports. Right, I'll say this

1289
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 6: talk about like Asian Wilson has a choke hold on

1290
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 6: the league, but the way that we talk about Caitlin,

1291
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 6: I wish we could switch the dynamics. But what it is,

1292
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 6: what it is right now, she has gotten a lot,

1293
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 6: and no one's saying that she won't get it. They're

1294
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 6: just saying that right now while all the eyeballs are there. Yes,

1295
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 6: you feel like there's a great expectation, but I don't

1296
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 6: think you.

1297
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: Want to like.

1298
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 6: There's a reason why she chose going to the WNBA

1299
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Speaker 6: instead of taking that Big three content contract is because

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01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 6: she wanted to honor and respect the integrity of the

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01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 6: sport and the competition in which she plays. You know

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01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, not everything is like what is delayed

1303
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 6: is not denied. She will be an Olympian if she

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 6: continues on this trajectory. Has she been set up for success?

1305
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 6: Is this team being set up for success? Or is

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 6: being more popular more important? This is the one group

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 6: that does not really move based off of popularity. And

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 6: I think that's what people don't really understand.

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Speaker 4: Clearly, clearly, thank you for just stopping by.

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Speaker 2: We know you only had a brief moment, and but

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Speaker 2: thank you for joining Ojo and I on nightcap Ladies

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Speaker 2: and gentlemen. Janey who McKay, my colleague at ESPN, first take,

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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Good night and see you soon.

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Speaker 6: Always I'll come back your I feel like I can

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Speaker 6: be young aunt here here.

1316
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Speaker 4: You know you're welcome back in the time.

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Speaker 6: But we can kick it next time.

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Speaker 4: We can kick it again. And thank you today O Joe,

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Speaker 4: we got a special guest joining us. She was the

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Speaker 4: fifth pick in the twenty nineteen in w NBA draft.

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Speaker 2: Out of know today she ranked second in the w

1322
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Speaker 2: NBA scoring behind Asia Wilson at twenty six point four.

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Speaker 2: We're excited to have tonight I've been practicing there and

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Speaker 2: I hope I get it right. Ari qu Or Goomba Wiley.

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Speaker 7: Hey, that's how you do it doing. I see you

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Speaker 7: out the Atlanta Gay huh.

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Speaker 1: Hey say hey, man, listen, listen. Nothing but love, nothing

1328
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: but praise for your game. Obviously, it was it was

1329
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: my it was my first time going.

1330
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 10: It was my time going.

1331
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: So then I think we had nightcap that night, right

1332
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: or maybe the following night, and all I can think

1333
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: about and being at I watched the NBA a little bit.

1334
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: The first thing that came to my mind for a

1335
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: comparison to you, based on what I saw with my

1336
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: own two wives. Because can't nobody tell me ship, I say,

1337
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: I say listen. She was like, Kyrie, Irvan, that's it,

1338
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: that's only that's hey, so you know what I'm talking about.

1339
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Speaker 4: Listen.

1340
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 7: I meane you so you know you know I'm going

1341
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 7: with it, man, listen.

1342
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 10: It was it was a joy.

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: It was a joy watching play. I'm coming to see

1344
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: y'all play again, uh in Dallas. We have we have

1345
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: our tour coming up in Dallas, and I think the

1346
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: day before in August or the day after, but either way,

1347
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm coming to watch you again because I need to autograph,

1348
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: I need a picture.

1349
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: I'm trying that.

1350
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying not the fanboy right now, so I'm trying

1351
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: to play.

1352
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 4: Let's go. So so let me ask you a question.

1354
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: What do your friends call you? Did they call you

1355
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 4: Urec or they.

1356
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 7: Call you Ao Orrique? Don't like call me?

1357
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 4: But that's cool, all right. Look, there's been a lot

1358
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 4: of discussion.

1359
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: Everybody was talking about Caitlyn Clark being snubbed or not

1360
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: being selected for the US team women's team to go

1361
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: play the Olympics in Paris. I think one of the

1362
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: biggest snubs were yourself leading the league in scoring. Everybody

1363
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: knows what you bring to the table. Can pat the rocks,

1364
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: as Kyrie said, you can score. When the list came

1365
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: out and your name wasn't on it, what was the

1366
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 2: first thoughts that go through your mind?

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Speaker 8: Well, the thing is, I pretty much had an idea

1368
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 8: that I wouldn't be on it. So there's trials and

1369
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 8: stuff that go on throughout the years and previous and

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Speaker 8: you do it and you see the vibes, and I mean,

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 8: me being me being me, I just felt the vibes, Like, honestly,

1372
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 8: when it comes to that stuff.

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01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 7: It really doesn't have much to do with your game.

1374
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 8: It's really about who they feel like fits with the team,

1375
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 8: which okay, I mean that's on the inside too. You know,

1376
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 8: you could have said Kyrie could have made it and

1377
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 8: stuff like that, Like they the committee say they look

1378
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 8: for people who you know. I don't know, honestly, but

1379
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 8: I could already tell like that wasn't the type of

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01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 8: vibe they're going. So I actually took my name out

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01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 8: the pool like months ago. So when the list came out,

1382
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 8: I know everybody and who probably like I reage that

1383
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 8: should have been.

1384
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 7: I knew I wouldn't be on it.

1385
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 8: Now that's not saying I didn't think maybe last year

1386
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 8: I would be on the team, and I was good

1387
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 8: enough to make the team. But when the list came out,

1388
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 8: I knew I would not be on that one at

1389
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 8: the time because I took my name out the pool,

1390
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 8: and with the pools, it's a big commitment. Like if

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01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 8: I know that they're not picking me, I'm not gonna,

1392
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 8: you know, keep getting texted and keep That's what I'm saying,

1393
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 8: Keep having people pull up, keep going to these trials

1394
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 8: when I know the vibes so me being me.

1395
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm not about to give you all my

1396
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 7: time if I know the vibes.

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 8: So I knew, I knew for sure when the list

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 8: came out it wasn't But like I said previously, I

1399
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 8: didn't think I was good enough. But hey, you know,

1400
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 8: it's subjective who they think should be on the team.

1401
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 8: Everybody's great in the WNBA, so who they choose is

1402
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 8: who they choose. I can't really control that one.

1403
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: And you know, you know what, And I have a question.

1404
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure the people that make are the people in

1405
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: positions of power that make these decisions on who they're

1406
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: going to assemble on the US basketball team. I'm sure

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: they are basketball heads. But when it comes to this

1408
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: decision making and decision process, do you think it's politics

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: that comes into.

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01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 4: Play into this.

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01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the key words I heard you

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01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: say is the vibe and understanding the vibe about a

1413
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: vibe or anything. It's about assembling the best team to

1414
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: represent our country. So I know, I don't I don't

1415
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: want to get you in any trouble, but can you

1416
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: really talk about, you know, the politics side of it

1417
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to the decision making process for them.

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01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I can't really speak speak to USA

1419
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 8: basketball in general, but just when I think of women's

1420
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 8: basketball and just however many years I've been playing college

1421
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 8: and pro politics is always surrounding it.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, whether.

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Speaker 8: That's whether that's USA Basketball, whether that's All Star teams,

1424
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 8: whether that's first team and stuff like that. There's politics

1425
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 8: even with the men's Like, there's politics in everything.

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna just leave it at that, right, What

1427
01:05:59,200 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 7: are your.

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01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: Thoughts about the discourse arounding the w n b A.

1429
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: We hear a lot of talk because it's the league,

1430
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: and a lot of there's a lot of comparison between

1431
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark and Angel Rees being the Bird in Magic

1432
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: coming into the w n b A, and we know

1433
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: what they did to the NBA because all of a

1434
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: sudden they took the finals game off the tape delay.

1435
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 4: There there was this new and it.

1436
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: Was a perfect storm because you got Magic and Lakers,

1437
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: you got Bird in Boston, the most heated ribals, the

1438
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: most fiercest rivals, and they go there so to speak,

1439
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: speak to what's what's going on with the w n

1440
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: b A, And it seems like these rooks are getting

1441
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: a lot get a lot of credit for what's what's

1442
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: happening in the dub.

1443
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they they bringing a lot of attention.

1444
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 8: I think they should be getting credit to the point

1445
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 8: where they brought a lot of attention to the w

1446
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 8: n b A and the narrative that we don't, you know,

1447
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 8: appreciate that.

1448
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 7: It's crazy because I love it.

1449
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 8: I've been hooping, so more people watching the better, Like

1450
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 8: I've been doing what I'm doing. Now people kind of

1451
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 8: finally catching up, and you know, you got to give

1452
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 8: credit to a. You got to get credit to Caitlin

1453
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 8: because they brought a lot of fans from college. I

1454
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 8: watched the final four and I was at Dallas because

1455
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 8: I live in Dallas, so I went the year before that,

1456
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 8: and just how many people is there?

1457
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 7: It's crazy, Like it was insane.

1458
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 8: And I played in the final four, I won a

1459
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 8: national championship, and I thought a lot of people were there.

1460
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 8: So this one, I'm like, they just bringing fans, fans fans,

1461
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 8: so we appreciate everything that they're bringing. Now it's not

1462
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 8: saying they're the best women's so I think that's where Yeah,

1463
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 8: that's what I'm saying, Like y'all now seeing Stewie, y'all

1464
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 8: seeing Asia, y'all seeing just players like that, it was

1465
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 8: like they've been dominating for six, seven, eight years and

1466
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 8: these new players will do.

1467
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 7: That at a certain point.

1468
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 8: But right now, I think just the WNBA, we like,

1469
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 8: we appreciate everything that y'all bring it, but it's not

1470
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 8: gonna be easy, like people like people are supposed to

1471
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 8: sit down and you know, put out a red carpet

1472
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 8: like it's it's gonna be harder and will be harder

1473
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 8: because of who you are. But that's just what comes

1474
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 8: with it. Like that's like saying bron like people shouldn't

1475
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 8: check him cause hee the grade is like no, they're

1476
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 8: gonna try even harder, and.

1477
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 7: That's just what happens. That's just you know, competition.

1478
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: Are the fans getting popular confused with best? Because two

1479
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: things can be true. Somebody can be popular and not

1480
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: really good. If somebody can be really good and not popular,

1481
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: So are the fans? Are the fans getting those two

1482
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: things confused?

1483
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 6: Freak?

1484
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1485
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 8: I feel bad for the girls because they're not the

1486
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 8: ones saying it. It's the fans, Like I'm not understanding

1487
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 8: where the delusion is coming from. Like Caitlyn and angel

1488
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 8: have not said nothing like they the best players to

1489
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 8: come in the league. They just say that they just

1490
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 8: want to come. They know it's the WNBA, they know

1491
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 8: how hard it is, so they probably like, can y'all

1492
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 8: be quite a little because y'all making it harder for

1493
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 8: me on the court, like y'all looking target on my back.

1494
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 8: So nobody blames them, like it's just the fans and

1495
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 8: what they bringing. But I think they learning now that

1496
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 8: this league is hard, Like they seeing every night people

1497
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 8: that they've never even heard of, killing or garden and

1498
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 8: doing stuff like that. So they I think they're gonna

1499
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 8: catch up more like because now it's new, it's something

1500
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 8: to talk about.

1501
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 7: They want a storyline.

1502
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, like the league

1503
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 8: is gonna keep going and the thing's gonna keep being

1504
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 8: the same, so they just gonna waste their breath every

1505
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 8: day or they just gonna enjoy basketball.

1506
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I heard you shutting down that the critics

1507
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: like physicality because a lot of people are like, well,

1508
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: physicality in the dub is not good for basketball.

1509
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: You Yeah, hey, listens, a male and female sport, it's

1510
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: a contact sport. In order to play it the right way,

1511
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: there it has to be some type of physicality involved.

1512
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and people are being selective with what they're calling physical.

1513
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 8: Like if we're gonna talk about now we're talking about

1514
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 8: the rookie, so we're gonna talk about a hip check,

1515
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 8: that's not basketball. But if we talk about somebody hold

1516
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 8: and being stripping the ball and they might boss around,

1517
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 8: that's basketball. There's a difference. Nobody's saying the hip check

1518
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 8: is being physical because that's obviously a flager and Moountain

1519
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 8: that's wrong, Like, but it happens, Like because I watched

1520
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 8: the whole play, so I seen you know, Tayler.

1521
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 7: And talk to her after that.

1522
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 8: So it's like if you won't talk to somebody, you

1523
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 8: gotta be ready for something, no matter what it is.

1524
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 8: Like not saying the person's response is right, but what

1525
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 8: they respond is what their respond is how they feel

1526
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 8: that you're coming at them.

1527
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 7: So that's different.

1528
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 8: But like I said, I'm not a type of player

1529
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 8: to do that to a player, Like, if you're gonna

1530
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 8: talk to me, I'm gonna sure with my game. But

1531
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 8: like people got to get confused dirty and physical because

1532
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 8: it's gonna be physical and there will be some dirty,

1533
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 8: but that on me we're all dirty. It's just some

1534
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 8: players might be dirty. Some players not just like men.

1535
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 8: It's like Draymond might choke somebody out. Draymond, you might

1536
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 8: get into something. So it just depends. Really, it's like

1537
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 8: individual to the player for real. It's not the whole league.

1538
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 8: I like it.

1539
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: I like it, you listen. I'm just excited for for

1540
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: the w n b A. I'm excited for the path

1541
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: is going. I'm excited that it's dominating the headlines the

1542
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: way it's the way. Uh, it hasn't in the past

1543
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: because if it did in the past, and I would

1544
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: actually know about it. And as I continue to learn

1545
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: the game, as the game confuse.

1546
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 4: It grows and just it's really is really dope to see.

1547
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of people, a lot of people, uh,

1548
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: they try to tell me, oh, man, way to go

1549
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: to these games.

1550
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 10: It's really boring.

1551
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: It's not the same as watching the NBA. And it's

1552
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: a funny thing now that I've I've been able to

1553
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: experience it and I've been to a game or two.

1554
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: Now I can sit here and argue with people on Twitter.

1555
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: All goddamnity, y'all you see y'all lid to me nothing.

1556
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: You told me was nothing like so and so. Now

1557
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: that I've done my homework and had the chance experience

1558
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: what it's like in person, now I can go to

1559
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: bat and then the goddamn product on the court. It

1560
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 1: evens up with everything else the pundits and the journalists

1561
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: have been talking about. There's a reason why y'all making

1562
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,839
Speaker 1: a noise, y'all making note right, we got some hoopers.

1563
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 7: I mean you can see it. You see the highlights,

1564
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 7: you see everything like, we got some hoopers. It's every night.

1565
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 8: It's something, honestly, and I mean I play against it,

1566
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 8: obviously I'm a part of it, but we got some

1567
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 8: hoopers in the league.

1568
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 6: For sure.

1569
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: I think you guys are reaped is that you probably

1570
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: have to be a little better with the basketball for

1571
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: the simple fact you can't jump over somebody from the

1572
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: free pro.

1573
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: Life, so you gotta fight.

1574
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: You got all the back the basket without being seven

1575
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: foot tall, without having without having a forty two inch vertical.

1576
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: So your game, your skill set, the way you shoot

1577
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: the basketball, the way you get from point A to

1578
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: point B, it has to be pinpoint because you got

1579
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,879
Speaker 2: obviously the strength and the athleticism that a man possessed

1580
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: women just don't have that.

1581
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 8: And then the the m NBA, honestly we hold the

1582
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 8: It's like the NBA whole defense probably the last three minutes,

1583
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 8: last two minutes scored the last three minutes of the

1584
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 8: court like other than that, they scoring forty fifty, sixty

1585
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 8: seventy because they just switching everything. I'm like, if we

1586
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 8: were switching everything in W I probably every forty.

1587
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: But we trapping.

1588
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 7: You get trapped a half for it. You gotta do

1589
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 7: a lot like you gotta do a lot NBA.

1590
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 8: I can be watching them like y'all got it so sweet,

1591
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 8: although they do got to play a lot of minutes,

1592
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 8: so I probably wouldn't be holding defense season, but still, you.

1593
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 2: Know what, oh Jo and I wanted to say, congratulations.

1594
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: We heard that you just got engaged. Oh grad, congratulations

1595
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: on the engagement. They ask you this, were you nervous?

1596
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 6: I was?

1597
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 7: And I had a game that day too, like game

1598
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 7: they were setting up. I had thirty five. I went crazy.

1599
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 7: I went crazy. We lost them, but I mean good,

1600
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 7: I got.

1601
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 8: A bucket, I got you. I know, right, Yeah, we're

1602
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 8: in a composition right now. We missing two All stars.

1603
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 8: That's not an excuse, but uh, we're going through some

1604
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 8: growing paints. I'll just say that, but we'll be all right.

1605
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 7: But yeah, it was dope.

1606
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 8: It was, it was, it was amazing. I definitely was nervous,

1607
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 8: but once it happened like it was everything I ever wanted.

1608
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 7: So it was definitely dope.

1609
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: That's dope. Listen, congratulations on on engagement. I am also

1610
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: a wedding planner amongst other things that they also do.

1611
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: I am also performing. I performed at the Two Weddings

1612
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: Two Weddings last year, so if you need someonebody to perform,

1613
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: I can also DJ.

1614
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 7: I got.

1615
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 4: I got, I got everything wrapped all run.

1616
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 7: To the dance floor.

1617
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 4: Pretty soon. He will tell you, you know, he minister,

1618
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 4: Why was that?

1619
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: Why was that just getting ready to tell you I'm

1620
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: a junior. I'm a junior ordained minister too.

1621
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, ju junior, check this out. I heard you

1622
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 4: have you a sneakerhead that your hue game is crazy.

1623
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1624
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 8: I got a lot of shoes, and thankfully I'm a

1625
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 8: Nike athlete, so you can, like, once you get that,

1626
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 8: you really can get any thing you really want.

1627
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 7: Like, but I got a lot of shoes, for sure.

1628
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 4: Give me, give me, give me your top five shoes

1629
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 4: that you have in your collection?

1630
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 7: Dang, I mean I got the U n C Off whites. Okay, yeah,

1631
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 7: top five, I don't know.

1632
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: You got you got anything? Do you have any of

1633
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: the yeasies? Remember when when Kanye was with Nike? Do

1634
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: you have any of the easies?

1635
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 7: I got the runners.

1636
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 8: I don't have any of like the red boots, and

1637
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 8: so I know I got the black ones, like some

1638
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 8: tan ones, but I can't wear them like they just

1639
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 8: because I'm Nike.

1640
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, okay, you got boots, yeah.

1641
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 7: But I don't wear them honestly.

1642
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 8: But the thing is I being slides, Like if it's

1643
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 8: something tough, I wear, but most of the hobbying slides

1644
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 8: or Nike running shoes.

1645
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 4: So hey, I also heard you wanted you wanted the

1646
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 4: top five best dress. I would say that, Hey, no, no, no,

1647
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 4: we're nothing to do that.

1648
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 7: I agree, I agree.

1649
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah you bet you be putting that ship on.

1650
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: You be putting that ship on no.

1651
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 4: T yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So So if you

1652
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: if you top five and you say you're not two,

1653
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 4: three or four, four or five? So who who are

1654
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 4: your other who you other four?

1655
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 8: The other four in the league, right, now I'll give

1656
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 8: Tasha Cloud Okay, yeah, Cloud, I give Skylar.

1657
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: I like her style, Okay, okay.

1658
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 7: Klea Copper, she got a smooth style, kolea copper, Skyler

1659
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 7: Marik who fIF I'll get dominant ships.

1660
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Okay, that's what's up. So you like do

1661
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: you like? Do you like sneakers with all your outfits?

1662
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 6: Nah?

1663
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 8: I mean I used to be like super sneakerd up

1664
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 8: like Nike Nike, but now I just do like some

1665
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 8: loafers or some like shoes that ain't got really no label,

1666
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 8: but they just that most of my shoes been covered

1667
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 8: out of there. You know, I'm on the flair pants

1668
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 8: right now, so you might not even see the shoes.

1669
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: You tell about bail bottles. So let me ask you

1670
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: a question. How long does it take you to put

1671
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 2: together outfit? Do you know your next game? Do you

1672
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: have your outfit already picked out? Or is it like

1673
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 2: last minute?

1674
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 8: Like yeah, usually the night before, Like I already picked

1675
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 8: out what I'm about to work for the game tomorrow.

1676
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 7: So I'm not stressed because you know, the game days,

1677
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 7: it'd be.

1678
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 5: A lot going on.

1679
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 8: I don't got time to be looking and to take

1680
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 8: a long time to pick out it, like unless I,

1681
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 8: you know, have somebody help me with outfit. If I'm

1682
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 8: picking my own, like it takes me a long time,

1683
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 8: So I got to do it the night before for sure.

1684
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: So can we tell the difference between an outfit a

1685
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: rek picked out as opposed to someone helping.

1686
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 4: Can we tell the difference?

1687
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 7: No, because I got style. So whether it's a stylist

1688
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 7: or whether it's myself, it's all. It's all in one.

1689
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 8: I say when I use the stylist, this collaboration because

1690
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 8: I'm not just worring that you give me. Like if

1691
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 8: I think a shoe go better with that, I'm gonna

1692
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 8: wear that, or a pan go better with this top.

1693
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 8: Like it's usually like by pieces we talk about it.

1694
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 8: But if it's full fits and I like really really

1695
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 8: like it, I'm a way the whole fit.

1696
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 7: But we usually talk about it.

1697
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 8: I'm never gonna wear some like like them NBA players,

1698
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 8: they got two thousand dollars on. They look a hot

1699
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 8: mess from top to bottom.

1700
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 7: That's that's never gonna be me. That's never come.

1701
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question when you go

1702
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: with so, so, what what do you what are you

1703
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: trying to accomplish when you go to the game, obviously

1704
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: you want to be stylish and you know for the

1705
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 2: because now every like everybody to fit entry into the game.

1706
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: If damn as important is what happens in the game,

1707
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: It just.

1708
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 8: Depends, Like it really depends on the time I had

1709
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 8: the night before, Like if I'm really about to tap in.

1710
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 8: It depends on city too, Like I like New York Arena,

1711
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 8: like I like Phoenix, so I might want to get

1712
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 8: more dressed up, like or if I'm in La or something.

1713
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 8: So it depends on the bibe of the game too.

1714
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 8: But if I just felt like getting dressed, if I'm

1715
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 8: at home, I'm gonna do that. So it's it's never

1716
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 8: really like a rhyme rhythm. It's just whatever, to be honest.

1717
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 4: Do you always get dressed up? Do you?

1718
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: If it ever, like when you go out somewhere that

1719
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: you might be seen or for tolls might grab you,

1720
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: that you're not always to.

1721
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,879
Speaker 8: The ninth Nah, No, I'm no, I'll be in sweats

1722
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 8: like majority of the time. Like the most time I'm

1723
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 8: dressed up is the tunnel, Like okay, that's what I like.

1724
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 8: If I got somewhere to go, Yes, But I also

1725
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 8: don't go a lot of places like I'll be at home.

1726
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 7: I'm a homebody.

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01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: I like to be at the house, right right, So

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01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: what so what can we expect? You mentioned that you

1729
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: guys going through a little rough patch. You're gonna get

1730
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: some of your key players back. Are you doing your thing?

1731
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 2: What can we expect from the Wings moving forward?

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01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 6: There?

1733
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,799
Speaker 7: In reach fun basketball? I'm in exciting basketball.

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 8: Like I'm I'm a flashy player type, so I like

1735
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 8: to entertain, you know, I like to get a mucket.

1736
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 8: I like to I like to keep the fans and gags.

1737
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 8: But I also like to win and compete and play

1738
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 8: with my team. So definitely, hopefully a lot more wins.

1739
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 8: But anytime you go to a game, you're gonna get

1740
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 8: some exciting So definitely fans need to look forward to that.

1741
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: Who we like competing against who we like?

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: When you like you gonna schedule like, okay, yeah, I

1743
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: know everybody gonna be watching that game, whether it's whether

1744
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: it's the whether it's the Ass and Kelsey Plumb and

1745
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: Chelsea Gray and Asia Wilson, or at the Liberty it's

1746
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: an that's cool, It's Joan cull Jones, is Stuart excuse me,

1747
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: whether you go not normally it's Seattle because they got

1748
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: them guard, they got Skylar.

1749
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 7: Yeah that's when we play tomorrow. Actually yeah, okay, yes,

1750
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 7: so that's a shameless for y'all.

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01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 8: Got no Me and me and ju we were having

1752
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 8: last time we played each other last year, we had

1753
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 8: like both games like thirty and thirty. One time we

1754
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 8: had forty one and forty like we be going crazy

1755
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 8: and we both went to Notre dance.

1756
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 7: So it'd be competitive, but it's all fun, even Skylight,

1757
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 7: Like I.

1758
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 8: Love playing against great guards, like because one you you cold,

1759
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 8: I'm cold. We about to see who the cold is tonight,

1760
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 8: like we about to see what's going on. And I

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 8: love when we guard each other too, so it's really

1762
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 8: like we're gonna check each other's gonna score on each other.

1763
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 8: So I probably guard you doing them all. She probably

1764
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 8: guarded me, so it'll be fun, you know, playing against her.

1765
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 8: So I love playing against her and other players like

1766
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 8: who get up, Like yeah, I'm about to lock you up,

1767
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 8: Like I love that.

1768
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 7: Like I love when.

1769
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 8: People come at me competitive because I know what I have.

1770
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 8: I'm never you know, scared them back down from anybody.

1771
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 8: We're just about to see who's gonna be the best tonight,

1772
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 8: Like maybe so you.

1773
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 4: So you so? Are you a so?

1774
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: Are you a transh? Would you be in your bag?

1775
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: Like that's like, yeah, that's that's one. That's a bucket there, baby.

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1777
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 8: But I don't talk to people like if somebody talks,

1778
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 8: I don't really talk to people, Like I'd be more

1779
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 8: worried about the rest of anything. I was like, that's

1780
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 8: a file, Like I'm yelling at the rest. I'm not

1781
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 8: really yelling player, But I don't really I don't really

1782
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 8: trash talks. Like if I hit a good bucket, I

1783
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 8: might say at person, you know what you were.

1784
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 4: On Dancing with the Stars, what was that experience?

1785
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 7: Like it was crazy.

1786
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 8: I was more nervous for that than anything, Like you

1787
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 8: think it's not you think it's not bad until you

1788
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 8: get to that little stage and you gotta do something

1789
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 8: you're not used to in front of all these people,

1790
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 8: like just like it was.

1791
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 4: And then the.

1792
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 8: Practice it's like we have to practice like three four

1793
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 8: hours a day. I'm like, I gained a lot of

1794
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 8: respect for dancers. After dancers, I'm like, y'all really like

1795
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 8: that's a lot. It's a lot, But it was fun.

1796
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: I met a lot of.

1797
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 7: Cool people, but it was a lot.

1798
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dancing with the Star was awesome, obviously I did.

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01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: I did season ten Dance with the Stars with Sheryl Burke,

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01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: and I always say it was a great experience. People

1801
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: always ask me about it. I say, it's very humbling

1802
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: fact her being a professional dancer and then critiquing and

1803
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: judging you as a professional, not someone that's coming in

1804
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: learning we form, you know. So I mean it was

1805
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: very enjoyable. The funny thing about it is I like

1806
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: it about the show. The whole point of the show.

1807
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: To me, it would be taking people with no background

1808
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: experience in dancing and watching them get better week the week.

1809
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: But my season, I had to go against Nicole Scherzinger,

1810
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: who was the lead lead singer for the Pussycat Dolls,

1811
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: and what she does for a living is entertaining performing

1812
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: from the people. So I'm like, well, why do y'all

1813
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: have me going against some of that already dances for

1814
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: a living when it comes to their respect the craft.

1815
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: So it made no sense. But I know I did

1816
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: fairly well that season, so I really wasn't tripping.

1817
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 7: Well. At least she did good that's all that matter.

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01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,559
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Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us the rest of the season.

1822
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 7: And I got to see both of y'all at a game.

1823
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you be what if they're the game

1824
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 4: when we're in town at the on the tour wis Winton.

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 7: All right, man, I'm gonna hold y'all to it, all right, one.

1826
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, thank you, thanks for coming on with

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 4: us tonight.

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Speaker 10: The volume