WEBVTT - Debut - Meet Tamika D. Mallory and Mysonne! 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.440 What's up, y'all. This is to Maka Mallory and I 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:11.760 might saw and this is Street Politicians. Street Politicians makes 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.760 me super excited. It's been a long time coming that 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.599 we've been working on this podcast. Um, you know. I know, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.720 for me, there's a lot of information out in the world, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.440 a lot of stuff coming at us, a lot of 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.880 ways to get information, a lot of ways to give 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.800 your opinion on that information. But I find often that 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.600 people don't necessarily understand everything that they're consuming. And I 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:40.120 think this space gives us an opportunity to really deconstruct 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.440 and you know, dissect some of the things that we 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.600 see happening in pop culture and hip hop culture, um, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.640 you know, and entertainment and business. Of course we're talking 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:56.280 about money, right, economic empowerment, community engagement, criminal justice. There's 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.920 so much happen in politics, and we just want to 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.880 be able to break get down. And I think Street 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.600 Politicians in itself embodies exactly what we mean. We do 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.280 the work on behalf of our people. You have to 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.320 be folks alike. I'm not political. If you live every 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.720 day in this society, you're political. You live in a 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.440 political life. Um. But we want to be able to 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.480 bring information to you in the street, you know. I 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.800 think us being actually being in the movement, on the 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.760 front lines of this movement. We see things from a 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:31.240 different perspective, and us definitely having connections to the streets, 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.400 to the hip hop community, to pop culture, and being 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.240 able to infuse all of those things that once gives 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.000 us a different, a unique point of view that's not 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.959 really out there right now. A lot of you know, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.039 there's a lot of information out there, and a lot 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.399 of people don't know how to get it on, you know, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.480 they don't know how to um digest it or they 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.520 don't know how to break it down. I think that 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.800 we come from an unique perspective because we know how 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.160 to throw on some constructions and then we go on 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.240 to the boardrooms and then we're on the front lines 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.080 of the movement, and we can give you all of 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.200 these perspectives at the same time and pretty much bridge 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.920 that gap between the culture and and and explain why 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.600 politics are importing for our communities because a lot of 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.280 people in our communities don't believe that they should be 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.520 involved in policies. But the podcast is not just about politics. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.600 We want it. We're gonna have fun because it's you know, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.880 even your fun, it's political and even your finest And 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.200 that brings me to something I was just thinking about. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.079 It happened a few weeks ago in the news. You know, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.720 it was about when the NBA players. I don't know 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:43.560 if you yeah, I sure didn't. You know, you always 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.040 have to help us understand. So what happened because Lebron 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.080 something was going on with Lebron. It was me Lebron 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.200 was the person who was acting to speaking on the happen, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:56.079 but it was the China had did some expedition with 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.359 the NBA players went over to China, and it was 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.560 supposed to be about press day. It was supposed to 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.639 be a lot of things because there was some type 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.920 of merger with the NBA and Channel and then you 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:10.720 know the protests that were happening, and one of attention 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.600 to that and one of them. Let me get this 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.960 exactly right, because it was one of the executives in 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.440 the NBA. When you look a look at what he said, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:25.440 who was it. Daryl Maury is his name after his 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:30.720 tweets supporting Hong Kong's protesters. The Houston Rockets general manager 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.760 was the subject of a pro China campaign a selection 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.200 of tweets at Daryl Maury, many of which contains in 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.960 M S l okay, y'all properly know what that is 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:47.400 and I don't, which loosely translates to your mother is dead. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.200 So then what the Lebron said. So what happened was 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:56.720 at that point Lebron Lebron statement, the executive wasn't knowledgeable 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.560 about what was doing, you know, and what they were saying. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.400 What that Lebron is one of them I was spoken at. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.880 He utilizes this platform to speak again all kinds of injustice. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.720 I mean even we were able to get Lebron's where 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.760 the I can't breath t shirts for Justice Leagues protests 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.240 during the Eric Garner protests. So yeah, I mean he's 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.120 been really really supportive of the movement. He's been supportively 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.760 moving and people felt that in some ways the pocket 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.600 because you can't say that it's okay for you to 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.120 be vocal about issues that affects you that you are 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:40.880 passionate about and then go against someone who has different 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.440 views on another subject to be passionate about those because 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.560 it doesn't feel that you know or because you know 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.560 the result of it ended up in something that probably 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.920 negatively affects you. So I got I understood both front 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.880 of you and not been Then from Lebron when he 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.480 talked about it again, he said he was insane, that 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.760 he was wrong or that he was wasn't informed about 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.640 the issues that were going on China, but he was 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.080 saying that he wasn't informed about what they had to feel, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.279 why they were He didn't think he made sense for 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.520 him to speople about that while they were on the story, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.240 and they will have to deal with the negative effects. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.760 So in that that regarded, that's what I'm trying to 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.040 tell you. Like this, it's politics and everything. These are 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.440 guys that wanted were to play basket. So he's saying 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.080 you should have waited to say that until we came exactly. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.120 But I'm trying to tell you that's what when people 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.599 is a lot of a lot of those athletes, with 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.239 the exception of the Guard are not really even into politics. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.680 They don't. But but the problem with that where I 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.280 take issue, And of course I didn't read it, and 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.760 I don't know all the details, but I do know 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.800 that every time it's a good time to save what's right. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.600 Number one. And then the second thing is that if 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.720 the gentleman had waited, the owner had waited until they 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.640 came back, it wouldn't have been a news story. Purpose 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.320 of him saying it while they were going was so 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.360 that he could they could get that he could get 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.320 the type of attention. And I'm sure that the protests 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.400 is the people on the street they appreciated that he 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.400 spoke up on their behalf. So you know, like you said, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.960 to catch twenty two situations, but also which we deal 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.960 with all the time in our movement spaces. It's like, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.039 before you actually say something that impacts my life, we 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.520 may need to have a conversation about how this is 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.040 going to play out. And we argue about this all 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.880 the time. And that's but that's that's where you know, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.400 that's where it is. What it? What is it that 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.000 you're trying to do? Are we are we champion? Are 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.560 we promoting that people should be outspoken about issues that 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.960 affect them when they feel that they need to talk 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.200 about it, or we're saying that there has to be 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.360 a sort of time as you talk about it, or 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.680 do I have to say in a way that makes 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.120 people comfortable, Because I don't think change comes from comfortable. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.760 I don't think me saying something that that's politically correct, 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.799 that makes you feel comfortable, it's really going to do anything. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.680 But it's all it's about balance, and it's also understanding 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.480 who's the ultimate enemy? Right? And then how are people 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.600 who are caught up in the mixt of it going 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.560 to feel about what it is that you're saying when 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.960 in fact they want to be on your side, they 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.280 want to be with you, And so if you're making 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:27.040 comments that ultimately marginalize them or make them feel a 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.520 certain type of way, you have to be thoughtful, like 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.840 we all have to be thoughtful about how we enter, um, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.560 you know, certain conversations, or you know how what our 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.400 our discourse is like around different people's issues. We need 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.200 time as leaders to be able to process what it 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.120 is that we're saying, and again, who are all the 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:51.960 beneficiaries and or people who will be hurt by whatever 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.080 we're saying that. I work for a very powerful civil 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.600 rights leader for a long time, and one of the 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.040 things that I know is that before making decisions, even 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.440 if his gut instinct led him back to his original 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.880 thought his kitchen cabinet, when he would go to come 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.920 to some of us and throw around different ideas about 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.800 a topic that he wanted to address, only helped to 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.440 develop his point. It only helped him to be able 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.440 to see the perspective of everybody that's in the room. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.320 So if he's gonna talk about l g B t 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.760 Q issues, you know, you before you speak on it, 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.760 you might need to educate yourself from someone who is 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:33.080 actually in that community. So I think that's that's that's 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.040 that's no brainer. I think that you speak about people 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.040 or or issues that don't directly pertain to yourself, that 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.480 you're not directly impacted by or or directly member of 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.880 the community that you're speaking of, and you definitely should 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.280 have out. But if there are issues, like we have 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.719 a lot of time when they're issues that directly affect men, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:09:00.000 directly affect I was getting ready, I was getting ready. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.440 I'm so glad you started it so I could talk 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.600 about the male ego. And the dangerous bottom line is 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:12.680 if there are issues and I believe that you believe 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:18.120 I'm almost I am a man in every every essence 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.800 of regard of the world. So when they are issues 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.760 that you know regard man and and you know, then 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.440 I think that I should be able to speak freely 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.600 on a man's behalf. Yeah, I'm not saying that you shouldn't, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.599 but I do think that you have to also decide. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.000 I mean, we all when we use social media, which 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:44.800 is a place that attracts a lot of negativity, trolling, 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.320 fake accounts and all of that, we have to decide 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.480 what's the best for them to get our message acros 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.880 us because if we take something to social media that 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.480 in our hearts, minds, and you know, and our soul, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.160 we think we're saying the right thing. We're talking into 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.080 a particular audience, but yet it's in the context of 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.200 things that have been that folks have been being dragged about, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.160 and they actually their careers and other things have been 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.160 impacted by these things. You have to actually be thoughtful, careful, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.240 and the way in which you say so, I mean, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.760 we we we get into this all the time. It's like, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:23.479 how how you approach the Internet is very very very serious, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.120 and sometimes the best thing to do is not to 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.640 approach it at all, because you know, the thing I 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:33.440 told Tariq, my son, is that everything you're thinking does 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.960 not need to go online. And that's something that it 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.560 took me a while to figure out. Sometimes I'll be 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.880 ready to go on people's comments and say all types 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.800 of things. And then one day I noticed that media 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.040 outlets we're picking up what I said in folks comments, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.600 and I was like, Oh, they're actually watching me, so 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.520 I need to be careful. You know. That brings me 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.000 to a lot of people said that I'm too hard, 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:03.000 your obsessed, you keep talking about Kanye. We just need 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.600 to leave it alone. And I just and I think 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.360 that people don't understand the moment that we don't understand that. 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.640 You know that the media is very probably like the 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.560 media controls like it controls our minds and controls how 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.560 we walk and we talk, how we address what we think. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.719 And if somebody is constantly using platforms for millions of 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:30.600 people following them two two give you rhetoric that is 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.240 detrimental to our society constantly, Well they don't think that's 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.600 the problem. They don't think it's detrimental his his rhetoric 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:43.000 in some ways is correct, just like Canda's own. Some 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.760 of the things that Kanye is saying. It's important, you know, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.640 we gotta stop voting Democrat all the way down the 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.800 ballot because that's not working for us. Now he's talking 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:57.040 about industry and bringing I no, no, no, I'm just 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.520 saying he's talking about bringing factory is in you know, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.320 sort of agriculture, if you will, an idea about that 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.760 to the US. All those things are important. What you're 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:12.280 saying is that it's embedded in language or in a 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.720 in a particular idea that is problematic for our community. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.640 And in fact, what he doesn't even know, maybe he 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.560 does know, is that it's it's really being um it 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.959 is being shared with us through the lens of white supremacy, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.360 which is even more than But that's that is My 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.000 whole point is that he doesn't because he was very 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.120 aware he understood that Bush didn't like black people. If 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.040 he was very aware, he's always been adamant about racism 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.880 in his country. Prior to the last couple of years, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:44.199 he's been very vocal and understanding the things that's going 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.680 on this culture. When he went into Sway and he 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.480 was talking about you don't have the answers, where his 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:53.120 whole position was that the white supremacy in itself does 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.760 not allow him to reach past for a certain seal 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.960 that he can't be me, he can't be Steve Jobs 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.440 because they won't allow and that he's created all of 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.199 these things. He's the mind behind all these things. But 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.120 there are certain things elements within this country will not 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:11.120 allow him to get past roadblocks. He's very aware of that. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.520 So what he's utilized now, he said, I can't beat 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:20.360 him swarming to join so for for his financial game, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.959 he decided to sacrifice our approach. He decided to tell 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.520 us lies about the Republican Party was the one who 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.240 did It's not not telling the truth about this is 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.679 not the same Republican Party that he speaks up that 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.920 the Abraham Lincoln was not the person who we slay, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.920 that the Republican Party then was the anti slavery party 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.920 that changed to the Democratic Those are not conversation that 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.640 he's having. He's saying, don't vote for Democrats what they've 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.280 been doing for the Republicans. I can love Trump. I 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.160 don't care these races. I've never made a decision based 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.400 on just being black. When you make these when you 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.120 start making these statements and you start saying that in 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.880 front of black people follow you, who believe that you 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.199 would for our liberation and for our poacher, and then 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.000 you start to intentionally lie to that because you want 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.000 to benefit. I cannot just sit by and say, can's 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.040 gonna let let him say this some millions of people 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.959 every day, and everybody else is just gonna go along. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.559 He decided we're gonna do Sunday service today because now 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.400 I know y'all into the church. I know I can 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.000 sell the church whenever when y'all said, I'm not invited 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.640 to the picnic no more, I can do Sunday service 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.040 and everybody's gonna come because they're gonna say Ranie trying 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.240 to get Guardians life. And now I can sell an 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.560 album called Jesus King. But last week it was I'm 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.040 a sick funker like my dick sell. You know. So 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.480 when I understand, when I understand the reality of that, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.600 I'm not going to be slad. I'm not I'm not 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.600 gonna say you know what, I'm just gonna fall back 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.600 and let somebody else because nobody else is gonna talk 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.600 about it. I'm not gonna did not talk. But okay, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.880 if people have been talking about it, people have they 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.840 shrug it off. Yeah no. But but but you are 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.560 a hundred percent right about one thing that that the 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.840 system that is uplifting. Kanye knows that black people love 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:10.680 spiritual music, you know, church, God, Jesus, the whole that narrative, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.200 um that we we follow. And certainly I believe in 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:20.000 love and am a a a devout follower of Jesus Christ. Right, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.360 So that's so I agree with him in that perspective 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.600 that we need Jesus in our lives. The problem is, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.560 I don't think we're following the same god. There's something 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.840 wrong with the God that he has come into contact with, 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.640 because it has not well exactly, and so he would 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.520 see that, right, And and that's two different gods. Because 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.880 the ones that our people were singing about in the 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.800 field was a liberating god. It was a god that 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.880 understood that at times we might have to actually strike 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.720 our master down in order to get free. The God 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.520 that Kanye is singing about is the god of oppression. Um. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.080 Is the god that says that the massive well, it's 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.440 the god a cat feelings. As long as you have money, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.080 we don't even have to worry about the rest of 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.640 the things. We don't have to worry about the people 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.680 that at the border. We don't have to worry about 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.680 the racism that that our presidents evoking in within this country. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.800 The division we don't got to worry about that. He's 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.680 told us how to get some money, so let's figure 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.600 out how to get money and everything else. Yeah, I 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.240 mean that that's something that my soul personally, it can't 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.520 nobody else is gonna talk. Everybody's gonna laugh about. But 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:31.720 we also have to remember, uh, you know, how sick 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.400 our people are. There are a lot of sick people 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.880 in our communities that really don't understand nuance. They really 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.160 don't have not done the research. And that's not our fault. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.800 Like we weren't taught, and we were in many ways 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.240 blocked from the knowledge that we need in order to 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.800 understand all of what's happening around us, right, and so 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.040 we're sick people that are are are We We have 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.120 a quest for knowledge, but it has not been provided 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:00.600 in the ways in which is should. So if you 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.640 don't understand your history, then you are are. It's really 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.439 impossible for you to be able to understand all the 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.840 elements of what's happening around you, especially to your point, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.000 the media. Every minute it's coming with something new and 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.080 you're trying to be follow But you do know, Jesus walks, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.399 you know that you know all the good gospel songs, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.199 you know those, and so if it's coming through a 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.880 musical genius, then it sounds right, especially when we want 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.439 to say I'm not political, so it's and and this 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.200 is very political what Kanye is doing. It's really dangerous. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.920 But I think in terms of a different perspective around 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.399 what you're saying, that you have to be able to 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.159 challenge Kanye because he is directly and he is a 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:45.280 direct influence UM for our people. That is very very damaging. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.560 What he's doing right now is very damaging. It is. 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.199 But listen, but this might change the topic a little bit, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.080 but I think it's important. This is my thought process 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.240 on what you see in terms of people saying too 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.240 hard on Kanye or you know, why are you so obsessed? 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.359 I think the issue is um and we talked about 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:11.720 this all the time sometimes. I think for you because 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.080 of the fact that there's so much ship bullshit that's 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.639 going on in our society where you kind of feel 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.119 like you have to be a voice to try to 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.800 to check different things that's happening so that your followers 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.560 and other people will have and and and a different 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.760 voice that shows them. So either either will say it's 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.000 the right way or a different way that's probably better 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.000 for our communities. You find yourself in that all the 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.720 time because of the fact that you are constantly having 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.840 to engage in these conversations. It seems to some folks 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.200 and sometimes to me as well, that you have become 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.280 critical all the time of too many different people. And 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.600 I think what you have to do, which we've we've 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:00.800 been discussing, is pick your battles. Sometimes we should go 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.159 out and challenge different things, but sometimes we might have 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.320 to actually miss some ship right because people, for me, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.760 they say, Okay, you're angry, because I feel like I'm 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:11.879 even every speech that I used to make, I was 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.719 yelling and screaming at the world, and eventually I had 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.520 to figure out that sometimes that tone was not necessary 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.320 nor was it winning our people over. So I just think, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.320 especially if you don't I know that because I don't 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.000 agree what you said that that tune was winning our people, 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.280 I believe that that yelling that you quote quote unquote 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.639 yelling is what Galvin naze millions of people and me 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.240 people feel like they had somebody that spoke on behalf 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.119 of them. I think the people that pussy put around 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.639 and they say the politically correct say I don't want 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.800 to yell because I don't want to see unruly and 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.320 I don't want to come for us as the angry 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.080 black person. They don't have that back. I think the 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.960 fact that I'm willing to fight any advertary that votes 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.440 against my moral tumping that my people follow me for 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.399 that reason. But there's but balance is key. But I 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.520 don't balance is balances balances that there should not. I 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.680 don't believe that you should participate in four or five 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.440 days of dialogue back and forth about an issue with 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.199 whomever it is, or every time they pop up in 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.080 the news there's a response, and then on top of 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.960 that in the comments, going back and forth arguing where 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.560 every troll that comes along. I think that's I don't 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:29.440 want to but I think that with my connix, he 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.440 who controls the news controlled the people. So if they 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.240 continue to put out you that is lying every day, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.600 is lying, is directly lying when you start trying damaging. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.200 But the line is there, could you not tell the 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.600 truth about somebody? Is able to create a narrative and 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.119 pointing into your brain it becomes factual, but it's not 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.880 actually factually. Then that's a problem. So I'm not going 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.920 to lie. So I'm going to be the person that, yeah, 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.600 well no, you gotta think about that. We're not going 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.560 to just let's just go like IM sorry, I'll be 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.040 back to discuss this again anyway. So I guess that 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.800 brings us to the last topic, which is really important 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.480 to me. It's really near and dear to me. And 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.159 I've been struggling so much with this Harriet film, and 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.639 not just the film, but just the moment that we're 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.159 in and how Harriet the film seems to be sitting 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.439 in the middle of the complicated, sort of complex nature 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:35.680 of just like the pushing pull of and um, I 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.320 feel like we saw the film until Freedom. Our organization, 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.720 UH did a screening, not a screening, but we hosted 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.320 folks going to Magic Johnson Theater and I thought it 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.400 was incredible. I thought it was incredible. Now their films there. 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.679 A friend of ours who went said that it was 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.320 the acting was for perhaps if you're a filmmaker you 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.080 may see different things, but in terms of need the 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.600 naked eye, just someone who likes to be entertained and 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:08.080 also like education and information. I thought Harriet was great. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.560 Do I think it was perfect and that every single 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.359 character it actually existed, and that the story was told 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.800 um to what happened in her life. No, And I 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.919 also I think that the only person that could have 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.520 informed them on how to be exact and accurate would 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.359 have been a person who dead, and that's Harry and 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.119