WEBVTT - Hip Hop Unexpected Turn

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<v Speaker 1>What's up. Family's your girl, TONI ka.

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<v Speaker 2>D Mallory and it shit boy my son in general.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are your hosts of street politicians, the place

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<v Speaker 3>where the streets and politics mean. That's how you doing today.

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<v Speaker 4>I am blessed how they favored on this good old,

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<v Speaker 4>good old day.

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<v Speaker 2>As we continue to do this work in Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, in Louisville, Kentucky, we move around so much, so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's lots of work to be done today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, there's way too much work to be done. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>both for Brianna Kentucky. We need you to show up Louisville, everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>and we need you to show up in vote for

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<v Speaker 4>Brianna man cuz the damn man, the scam scammering cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the governor scammer.

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<v Speaker 3>So when asked me at an event, like how does

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<v Speaker 3>it feel to have your biggest opposition in Kentucky coming

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<v Speaker 3>from a black man?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, when I think of the

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<v Speaker 1>word like, when I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the term black man, it's so it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>term of endearment for me when I think of or

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<v Speaker 3>say a black man that I don't even I can't

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<v Speaker 3>call him a black man. I call him a man

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<v Speaker 3>in black skin, but I don't know about him being

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<v Speaker 3>a black man, because a black man is supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>protect black women. So, you know, I think it's very

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<v Speaker 3>very simple what we're doing and why it needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what Daniel Cameron did.

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<v Speaker 3>To Brionna Taylor's family is obviously terrible, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>in and of itself is enough, I think for people

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<v Speaker 3>to really show up and do the right thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>even beyond that, it is his intention for the people

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<v Speaker 3>of Kentucky. So if you decide that you don't really

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<v Speaker 3>care about Brionna Taylor, which is horrific, But if that's

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<v Speaker 3>how you feel, you should at least be able to

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<v Speaker 3>process what his plan means for everyday people who are

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<v Speaker 3>living in the state of Kentucky, especially if you are

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<v Speaker 3>parents of young people, if you're an elder, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>someone who wants to be able to report police abuse,

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<v Speaker 3>and you want someone that respects you and that respects

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<v Speaker 3>your rights to be not just the governor, but also

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<v Speaker 3>the people in the Civilian Complaint Review Board that will

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<v Speaker 3>actually look at those facts and a independent decision about

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<v Speaker 3>what should happen in those cases. If you want to

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<v Speaker 3>ensure that, yes, we keep our community safe, but that

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<v Speaker 3>safety and justice is applied across the board, and that

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<v Speaker 3>we're not just focused on arresting and charging drug dealers,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will, or people who live in communities of color,

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<v Speaker 3>but actually we're willing to go after and deal with

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<v Speaker 3>those people who are the big predators on our communities,

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<v Speaker 3>from big pharma to how drugs actually are making it

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<v Speaker 3>into states and cities and into people's homes on this

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<v Speaker 3>massive level. I mean, there is so much to think about,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you look at his plan, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>his plan has absolutely nothing to do with serving the people.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like it's just a no, Like it

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<v Speaker 3>should be common sense for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just a no that he cannot be governor

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<v Speaker 1>of the state. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So hopefully folks are seriously out here getting registered. As

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<v Speaker 3>we've been out we've been meeting entire families that are like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, let me go wake up my kids because

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<v Speaker 3>I've been waiting for somebody to come by here.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know exactly what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people are have been doing the work, and

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<v Speaker 3>now now the registration deadline has passed or at least

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<v Speaker 3>by the time folks actually see this show or listen

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<v Speaker 3>to this show, the deadline has passed, and so all

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<v Speaker 3>our efforts are going to GOTV which means get out

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<v Speaker 3>the vote. That means you're already registered and you need

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<v Speaker 3>to get to the polls. And the other thing is

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<v Speaker 3>that people need to be in any state you live.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're listening to this, check your registration early.

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<v Speaker 3>Go check your registration from now, just to know your status,

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<v Speaker 3>because people are purged from the roles if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>vote a number of times. If they feel like you're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like, haven't been regis I mean, haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>showing up. If some information is wrong or they perceive

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<v Speaker 3>it to be wrong, they start purging people. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>it is voted suppression. Others are just ways of maintaining

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<v Speaker 3>the list. So there's a lot of work that each

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<v Speaker 3>one of us should be doing. But when we are

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<v Speaker 3>in moments like this, this is why you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be registered while you have to make sure your paperwork

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<v Speaker 3>is in order. Because when we're in moments like this,

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<v Speaker 3>when I believe that everybody, even the folks who are

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't believe in voting, most of them understand

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of showing up to stop Daniel Cameron from

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<v Speaker 3>becoming governor.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much it. Man, Daniel Scammeron cannot be the governor.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Get out the vote, GOOTV, Get out the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been actually watching a debate happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I don't know if it's a debate but a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation that's been going on on your page. And I

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<v Speaker 3>saw while old folks about it today and others have

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<v Speaker 3>begun to talk about it, you know, since last week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I you know, and I don't always understand the details,

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<v Speaker 3>but I know when reading what you've been saying about

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<v Speaker 3>art and talent and lyrics and all of that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>certainly struck a nerve with me because I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we have just's gone to a place where I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going on in them. Like with music, especially

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<v Speaker 3>hip hop music, I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Same songs or stuff. I can't even I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>really like sing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because because it's just like I don't know. So there

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<v Speaker 3>was stuff happening. I think the numbers are down or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, hip hop legend Juicy J had put out a

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<v Speaker 4>video clip and he was talking about hip hop sales

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<v Speaker 4>being down forty percent this year, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>been a lot of talk about how there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 4>any hip hop album or record anything that reached number

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<v Speaker 4>one this year, and it just hip hop was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much nonexistent on the Billboard charts and on the charts

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<v Speaker 4>of music that people love. There's no song or record

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<v Speaker 4>that had reached number one, and you know, so it

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<v Speaker 4>sparked the conversation then based on that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stemmed from this whole debate with Joe Butten

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<v Speaker 4>and Drake. You know, Joe Buddens shout out to Joe Bunns,

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<v Speaker 4>He's my guy. But Joe is very critical. He can

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<v Speaker 4>be an asshole sometimes and he gives his opinion and

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<v Speaker 4>he's unhinged and he you know, if he likes something,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to give the same energy that if he.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like something. He's honest about what he likes and

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<v Speaker 2>what he doesn't like. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, that's who he is. You know, Fortunately it is

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<v Speaker 4>who he is because at least you know where you

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<v Speaker 4>stand with Joe. But this time he talked about Drake's album,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, and he talked about how he just

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<v Speaker 4>didn't think that, you know. The main premise was that

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<v Speaker 4>Drake was trying to capitulate to the youth, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he was trying to make songs that didn't fit where

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<v Speaker 4>he should be, where he believed he should be musically

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<v Speaker 4>as an adult, you know, as a thirty seven year

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<v Speaker 4>old man. He didn't feel that his music reflected somebody

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<v Speaker 4>that was thirty seven, you know. And he said, as

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<v Speaker 4>a Drake fan, I want to hear where Drake is

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<v Speaker 4>at thirty seven, and it seems like you're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>appeal to a younger demographic and you're doing songs with

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<v Speaker 4>people who you know, I don't really see the correlation

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<v Speaker 4>or how it even matches, you know. And and him

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<v Speaker 4>to him, you know, Old Roy said the album wasn't terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>It was actually it was a good album, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like, I don't really want to hear this from me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And that's that started a conversation in which

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<v Speaker 4>Drake responded back, and he called Joe Button's a fail rapper,

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<v Speaker 4>and he started breaking down different things, and that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of struck a nerve with me, you know, because I've

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<v Speaker 4>gone through that with Bozo academics when we were going

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<v Speaker 4>through hour back and forth, and that was the main thing.

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<v Speaker 4>He kept trying to say that I was a fail rapper,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just you know, and that made me respond

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<v Speaker 4>to that, and I said, what makes somebody a fail rapper?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Who? What is the definition? Who defines what someone

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<v Speaker 2>else's success is? You know? And me knowing.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe for years and knowing Joe is probably one of

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<v Speaker 4>the dopest rappers, like Ball for Ball, he's like actually

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<v Speaker 4>a dope rapper, you know, And a lot of times

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<v Speaker 4>within the music business, people get tired of the bullshit

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<v Speaker 4>in the music business. You don't want to make the

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<v Speaker 4>bullshit songs they want you to make. You want to

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<v Speaker 4>make songs that feel good, and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>push those songs. They don't get behind those songs. They

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<v Speaker 4>don't put the building behind songs that actually mean something

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<v Speaker 4>unless you're actually the biggest artist, and then they can't

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<v Speaker 4>really stop you, you know, and even then, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they try to make it seem like nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 4>hear that type of music, you know, when we know

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<v Speaker 4>that our fans want to hear it. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it prompted me to write something about what a fail

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<v Speaker 4>rapper is. And then it prompted me to start paying

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<v Speaker 4>attention to a lot of rappers that actually adope. So

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<v Speaker 4>I started posting young rappers that are actually are lyrical,

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<v Speaker 4>because the notion is that the young kids are not

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<v Speaker 4>into lyrics and they don't care about bars and they

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to do that. They just want a beat

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<v Speaker 4>in a hook and some you know, sing a long bullshit.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, nah, I don't think that a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of these young artists that actually spit and they

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<v Speaker 4>dope and they they take pride in they art. So

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<v Speaker 4>when this Juicy Jay article came up, it pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>fed into the narrative. I was trying to say, like

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<v Speaker 4>the music that y'all think people want to hear, they don't,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. When we was the music that I'm telling

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<v Speaker 4>you has last. It got us here. It's last for

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<v Speaker 4>the last fifty years. We win fifty years of hip

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<v Speaker 4>hop and substance music with substance and artists who actually

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<v Speaker 4>created bars and said things that people actually could relate to,

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, that that challenged them, that made them

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<v Speaker 4>feel like, wow, this this artist is skilled. Right if

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<v Speaker 4>you do if you're an artist, why would I pay

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<v Speaker 4>for an album from you when you're doing the same

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<v Speaker 4>shit I could do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. You know why we go see the.

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<v Speaker 4>NBA because because because Lebron James can jump higher than me,

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<v Speaker 4>because I know he Kybriy Irving got one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best things I've ever seen. I want to see somebody

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<v Speaker 4>that could do something I can't that I'm amazed by,

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<v Speaker 4>because you have a skill level or the talent that

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<v Speaker 4>makes people say, wow, this level of excellence is something

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see something I'm I'm intrigued by something.

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<v Speaker 4>I even even if you were an athlete and you

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<v Speaker 4>know what it takes to play at that level, you watch.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, wow, you know you you you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Able to identify with that. That's what people That's what

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<v Speaker 4>fans want. They want you perform at a high level.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to hear music that's at a high level,

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<v Speaker 4>that that challenges them, that makes them like, damn, how

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<v Speaker 4>did he even write? I remember I used to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to NAS's albums and just turn it, turn it off

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<v Speaker 4>and be like, Yo, this I've never heard no shit

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<v Speaker 4>like I remember. I used to sit there and be like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>this man. He painted a picture. He was lyrical, it

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<v Speaker 4>was just like this. She was like perfect music, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was like, damn, I don't think I could do that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I want to try, right, and you want to

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<v Speaker 4>inspire to be that dope. And it made me want

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to say, y'all want nas to hear

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<v Speaker 4>this song and be like, yo, you dope.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. So that's that's what a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us did it for.

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<v Speaker 4>So when this whole fail rapping on shit, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>you know what kind of triggered me in that reg

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<v Speaker 4>some When Juicy J said what he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it made.

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<v Speaker 3>Me It's like it's solidified exactly. And I saw that

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<v Speaker 3>you were posting like a bunch of rappers who are

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<v Speaker 3>like and I also, I would like to log my complaint,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that not one of them was one.

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<v Speaker 2>People know, but that's and I understand that, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of women because Nylon is dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Are listen what I'm saying. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just giving me a chance right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Lady came one, Lady Lendon came on my page and

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<v Speaker 4>she was like, this list is dope, but it's missing people.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm now I'm creating my list with the whole

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<v Speaker 4>plane ride. I was trying to I couldn't get download

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<v Speaker 4>none of the clips from the artists I like the

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<v Speaker 4>female artists that I like. So I'm creating the female

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<v Speaker 4>artist's list right now that I think it's dope, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm putting that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>As we we have platforms, we both understand it. You

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<v Speaker 3>should have said that in your post, like I'm women

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<v Speaker 3>are coming soon next?

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<v Speaker 2>Why should I have to do that when because you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you didn't, you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something about what I learned from

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<v Speaker 3>my black preacher, best friend, pastor doctor Richardson.

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<v Speaker 1>He don't put nothing out period unless a woman is

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Period. He just don't do it. It is

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<v Speaker 1>his way.

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<v Speaker 3>He don't let He does not allow all men to

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<v Speaker 3>sit in his pulpit unless it's an all male event,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, you know, with which our church has many

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<v Speaker 3>male convocations, black male events, whereas all men and it's

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<v Speaker 3>about male development and male fellowship and whatever. So not

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<v Speaker 3>saying we as women don't disrespect it and try to

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<v Speaker 3>be up in it, but in terms of just a.

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<v Speaker 1>General day like a general church day.

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<v Speaker 3>He ensures that there is a woman on every flyer,

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<v Speaker 3>a woman in every invitation, a woman that's on every program,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Black church has been so exclusive of like excluding,

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<v Speaker 3>and has excluded Black women so much that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be very intentional. And that's why I was mentioning

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<v Speaker 3>to you that what I thought Snoops set of course

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<v Speaker 3>was incredible at Yankee Stadium for the fiftieth Anniversary of

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<v Speaker 3>Hip Hop, and then he played a video at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of artists that We've lost and it was all

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<v Speaker 3>men and there have been women right that have been

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<v Speaker 3>killed or died or whatever also, And I also thought

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<v Speaker 3>that he because it wasn't just artists, he had other

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<v Speaker 3>types of entertainment people and just people in general in

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<v Speaker 3>that clip, And I felt like it should have also.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been amazing if it would have ended

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<v Speaker 3>with some of the stories of the Breonna Taylors and

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<v Speaker 3>George Floyd's and the Maud Armist, because our story is

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<v Speaker 3>so inclusive. So I just think that the women should

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<v Speaker 3>been upfront, and if they weren't gonna be upfront, you

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<v Speaker 3>should have known that we were gonna feel a.

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<v Speaker 1>Way about it. It has been two days.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's been one day because I put it

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<v Speaker 2>up yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>I put it up yesterday, and today I planned on

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<v Speaker 4>going back, and I've been putting all the clips, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've been finding my favorite artists, and then I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to find like at least two clips that I can

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<v Speaker 4>put up with different young females that I think are

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<v Speaker 4>just amazing rappers, like Lyrically. You know I got you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I got my tops. You know I got rapped, lady.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff coming you tell me, like for real.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, I just want I want hip hop

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<v Speaker 4>to get back to that. I want hip hop to

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<v Speaker 4>get back to love and the creativity. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>used to love to hear certain people albums. Now it's

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<v Speaker 4>like they're just throwing shit together.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Well, we're in the fence and all stage. But

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<v Speaker 3>we must, we must, we must move on to our

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<v Speaker 3>next topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir. I know this you could talk about a day night.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm the sam hip hop. Please get back to creating.

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<v Speaker 4>Get back to sitting down and creating a project you

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<v Speaker 4>love that you listen to over and over that you

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<v Speaker 4>go back to the studio and you fix this and

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<v Speaker 4>you fix that, and you want it to just sound

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<v Speaker 4>like one cohesive project that somebody's gonna listen to, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's a movie and be like, damn, this is my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite movie ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what albums used to be. Like, Man, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get back to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of hip hop, moving along but not really, sexy

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<v Speaker 3>read was a big topic just in the last few

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<v Speaker 3>days about her statements that Donald Trump got the black

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<v Speaker 3>people's the stemmy and with the stimulus money, it makes

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<v Speaker 3>him a viable candidate somebody that she supports for presidency.

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<v Speaker 4>The hood love Trump, Trump, chump, chump, get people that

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<v Speaker 4>have money, and he got people out of jail.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me say something.

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<v Speaker 3>There were people who was all in the comments section

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<v Speaker 3>saying that she was, you know, ignorant and.

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<v Speaker 1>Not intelligent and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually when I because I only read about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did not watch it. In fact, I read

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<v Speaker 3>about it because I'm on a million text threads with

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<v Speaker 3>a million different people, and all of my you know,

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<v Speaker 3>friends that are kind of there, they're are they're of

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<v Speaker 3>the community. Let me say they're of the community. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they were pissed off, and so I in in In

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I watched it. I went and watched it,

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<v Speaker 3>and as I listened to her, she was very clear.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't stumble over her words. She didn't sound like

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<v Speaker 3>a person who does not has not thought about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I listened to people all the time make these

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<v Speaker 3>declarations that they are like with whoever whatever candidate, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it be Trump or Biden or whichever candidate or whichever

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<v Speaker 3>police situation, and they said, you can hear where they.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound like someone told them to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Even listening to Kanye and some of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>he was saying in his last bit with the media,

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<v Speaker 3>where he was just every day talking, you could hear

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<v Speaker 3>canvas owned and that proud boy's mentality and like you

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<v Speaker 3>could hear that it had been implanted in him. And

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<v Speaker 3>guess what, I'm not the only person that feels that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Because his own friends, who are who were his friends

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<v Speaker 3>or people he was associating with who were around him consistently,

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<v Speaker 3>other black folks, who some of them most of them

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<v Speaker 3>are artists, they were like, I could they could hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>They were immediately saying, I know that this is somebody

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<v Speaker 3>is telling him this stuff and maybe he thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was right, but he was repeating things that you could

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell it wasn't coming directly from him.

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<v Speaker 1>But when listener, yeah, it was the right wing talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>But listening to her, she was very very clear about

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<v Speaker 1>what she was stating.

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<v Speaker 3>While I don't agree with her, and not only do

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<v Speaker 3>I not agree with her, it is factually incorrect what

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<v Speaker 3>she's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It is factually incorrect.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump and his party are responsible for the stimulus

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<v Speaker 3>package because number one, most Republicans, I think every single

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<v Speaker 3>one of the Republicans in Congress voted against the stimulus

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<v Speaker 3>package and was trying to really vote down and challenge

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<v Speaker 3>anything that had to do with giving relief to the

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<v Speaker 3>American citizen. So let's be clear. It was a battle

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<v Speaker 3>Nancy Pelosi, who I ain't the biggest fan of at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I say not the biggest fan of, that's

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<v Speaker 3>actually too. I'm not a Nancy Pelosi fan, and listen in.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can tell you that between Nancy Pelosi and

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Schumer and the CBC and the Progressive Caucus and

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<v Speaker 3>all of them, they fought like hell to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a stimulus package. That is a fact.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not some mess that's just being made up. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>the president, I don't care if the president was daffy duck, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the president had no choice but to do something to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with the fact that people had nothing, no jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>no nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the stimulus.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what that is what it means when you

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<v Speaker 3>have to declare a pandemic, When you have to declare

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<v Speaker 3>a pandemic, the purpose of that is to unlock additional

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<v Speaker 3>funds so that people can get relief, so that there's

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<v Speaker 3>more you know, food stamps or whatever the social services.

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<v Speaker 1>Are that we can provide two communities. So Donald trying.

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<v Speaker 3>And this would be if someone was saying, oh, Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden gave us a stimulus package, just like they want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about student loans, and we can talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But just like they want to talk about that, we

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<v Speaker 1>already know. And it's and it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting that when we say that, well, Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>made sure that these this nine million dollars of student

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<v Speaker 3>loan debt, nine billion dollars non billion dollars a student

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<v Speaker 3>loan debt was forgiven, they're like, oh, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't do anything. He just corrected some stuff from

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<v Speaker 3>the past. Whatever they want to give you a very

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<v Speaker 3>technical understanding of what he did with the stimulus package.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, excuse me, with the loan forgiveness. They want

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<v Speaker 3>to give you a very specific understanding. But when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to the stimulus money, they want to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that that was because Donald Trump winning his personal pocket

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<v Speaker 3>and just started giving out money. Him and his people

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<v Speaker 3>were fighting so hard to ensure that the American First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, if it was up to Donald Trump, he

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<v Speaker 3>was never even willing to acknowledge that a pandemic was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>If we be clear, If you want to be clear

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<v Speaker 3>about what actually took place, Miss Red and people who

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<v Speaker 3>are like her.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, miss read, miss read like.

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<v Speaker 1>Her, if you want to be clear.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time we found out that that that someone

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<v Speaker 3>had COVID, the COVID virus, and that people were being

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<v Speaker 3>were getting sick, it was when the media started showing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But there is actual factual information that proves that they

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<v Speaker 3>knew people were getting sick and that something was happening

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<v Speaker 3>globally even before that, and they never told us.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And Donald Trump and his people, his cronies and those

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<v Speaker 3>who sit up in the Republican House and and hail

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<v Speaker 3>him like he's the freaking King of all kings. They

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<v Speaker 3>knew it too, and they didn't do a damn thing

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<v Speaker 3>to try to protect the American citizens. It was after

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<v Speaker 3>people started dying because the hospitals were not prepared, they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what they were dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so pissed off that people weren't doing whatever

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 3>other political bullshit he wanted them to do. That The

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<v Speaker 3>man starts by the first of all, he cut off

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<v Speaker 3>supplies so they wouldn't even send mask and shit to

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<v Speaker 3>states across this country. Then they started some othership where

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<v Speaker 3>in New York he cut off the whole global entry

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<v Speaker 3>process and threw all of us out the damn program,

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<v Speaker 3>where the freaking Attorney General in New York State had

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<v Speaker 3>to fight in court to get us back our right

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<v Speaker 3>to use global entry. That might not matter to some people,

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<v Speaker 3>but it matters to me as much as I travel.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, man, but the thing is, and there's another

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<v Speaker 4>very important point. Trump actually stalled the stimulus package because

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<v Speaker 4>because he made sure that they put his name on

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<v Speaker 4>the check.

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<v Speaker 2>On the check, he said, look, I'm gonna make this.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to me. Trump is a that's the Marketer bro

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<v Speaker 4>I will tell you the truth. That's what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his whole His whole career has been selling dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what he did. He's in court right now for

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<v Speaker 4>selling dreams. He's in court right now fighting a federal

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<v Speaker 4>civil charge because he said that his his his properties

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<v Speaker 4>was valued at one hundred times more than he actually

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<v Speaker 4>was to get money and get funds from people to

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<v Speaker 4>pay for ship.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Trump does. Trump over sells hisself. He

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<v Speaker 2>does whatever he does. This is what he did.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I told people with the hip hop community, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>calls you there for one thing, and you go there

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<v Speaker 4>and then he takes a picture with you, he said

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for coming here, and like you endorsed him for

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<v Speaker 4>his presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the same whatever, whatever, playing whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a strategy. He did the same shit with

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<v Speaker 4>so many countless others. And I'm not gonna name no names,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is what he does and he's constantly doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>So misread. I know that you looked like it because

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<v Speaker 4>he tricked.

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<v Speaker 2>He tricked you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't not wrong with you because he tricked a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of them, but he tricked you, mis read.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump ain't give nobody nothing and Trump definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't give No, I'm not gonna even say he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was president and under his presidency it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm saying irresponsible for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying he wasn't responsible for it.

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<v Speaker 3>He and his party they tried to stop it at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, and by the time they delayed it, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, to get his name on the check, people

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<v Speaker 3>were dying. And it was much more that could have

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<v Speaker 3>been done to prevent those deaths, because you and I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would put my life on the fact that many people,

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<v Speaker 3>too many people did not actually die from the virus,

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<v Speaker 3>from the COVID virus. They died from the our our

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<v Speaker 3>system not being prepared and the freaking hospitals down here,

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<v Speaker 3>damn chilling people. Your friend is an example what they said.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to see him, what's his name, the artist

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<v Speaker 3>Fred to God, he went to the he's Fred, the

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<v Speaker 3>God's son. Yeah, God blessed in his family went to

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he wasn't feeling well.

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<v Speaker 3>He was having chess issues, he wasn't feeling well, he

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<v Speaker 3>was clearly overweight, all of that. But she, his wife,

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<v Speaker 3>said he was doing okay. He was making it through

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<v Speaker 3>they decided at some point without him needing it, that

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<v Speaker 3>he needed to be on a respirator because that was

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<v Speaker 3>the general response. A ventilator, uneventilator, because that was the

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<v Speaker 3>general response at the time when they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>tools or the understanding of the virus. And he and

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<v Speaker 3>they put him on that ventilator, and that's when he

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<v Speaker 3>got really sick and died.

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<v Speaker 4>Anytime you put someone in ventilated, you stopped You stopped

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<v Speaker 4>the actual organs from doing his job. So as whatever

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 4>was going on, your body is not fighting it is,

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<v Speaker 4>you fee your breathing artificially.

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>So what happens with COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>And what we learn now is that the more that

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 4>your body fights it, and the more that your lungs,

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<v Speaker 4>even if it gets tight and it looks like it

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 4>fights it back and it breaks it down, you just

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 4>got to continue to fight. You gotta move, you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>be active, You got to make sure your blood is pumping.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 4>The less active you are, that shit takes over your body.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to I'm not trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to diagnose. You're not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, no, it's not even diagnosing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want people to walk away from this conversation

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<v Speaker 3>feeling like we are saying that there were not people

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<v Speaker 3>who were really, really sick and they died because they

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<v Speaker 3>contract the virus. I'm saying that when you start talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Trump said.

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<v Speaker 4>Well a lot more. There was just a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people that didn't have to die.

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have to die. They didn't have to die.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's connected to the incompetence of Donald Trump. So

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 3>when you all you care about is the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he got some checks to a few people a few times,

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<v Speaker 3>and you and and there was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>money crossing hands. And meanwhile grandmamm and them dead. Meanwhile

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 3>cousin so and so is dead. Meanwhile five and six

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 3>people died in the same household because of his incompetence.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's just be very very careful, okay about what

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<v Speaker 3>we say. And again, you know you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna see him say he didn't give the

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<v Speaker 3>money because he was the president, right, and so he

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 3>did what a president is supposed to do. Now that

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<v Speaker 3>brings us to the conversation on the student loan forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's my position on that nine billion dollars. They say oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not that much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not And the big.

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<v Speaker 3>Piece shout out to Tony Lindsay, who will he and

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 3>I argue on the phone for three hours?

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>He and I. Jules just had a three hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Conversation a couple of days ago, Julian Hoffenberg that works

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<v Speaker 3>with us, and we often have disagreements. But the one

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 3>thing I will say is that the man reads and

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<v Speaker 3>he knows what the hell he'd be talking about. But

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<v Speaker 3>we just see things from two different persons. Respect this

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<v Speaker 3>at times.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the piece the things that he was saying, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't know what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>With Instagram, but the the the but the the silencing

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<v Speaker 3>of people is so wrong, Like I don't care what

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 3>you say, as long as you don't curse me out

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 3>or disrespect me or start that line and all of

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 3>that crazy shit that trolling.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>I might not agree, and I'm intelligent enough either to

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<v Speaker 3>push back and or go learn and or say I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know and ask other.

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<v Speaker 1>People to help me. I don't need comments being deleted

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<v Speaker 1>off my page just.

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<v Speaker 3>Because a respectful dialogue is happening where two people are

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 3>debating or somebody is disagreeing with me, and he wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a comment on the page the other day where he

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<v Speaker 3>was basically challenging the whole student loan forgiveness piece, and

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<v Speaker 3>then somehow Instagram deleted it and I saw him write

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<v Speaker 3>about it on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote about how and he never said.

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<v Speaker 3>My name, and he always tries to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>even if we don't agreed, he protects the integne because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people started piling.

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<v Speaker 2>On to you.

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<v Speaker 3>So he said my friend's page. You know, the comment

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<v Speaker 3>was deleted and I just happened to see it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wait a minute. I took the screenshot of

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<v Speaker 3>what he said because it was not a curse word.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean literally nothing by son, nothing and I posted

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<v Speaker 3>it so that the dialogue could continue with people who

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<v Speaker 3>feel how they feel about the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And the main piece was he.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, this money and there were other people who made

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<v Speaker 3>the same comment, but this money is pretty much correcting

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 3>an old problem that was where people were being charged

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<v Speaker 3>improperly right or people were paying money they shouldn't be paying,

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>and there was discrepancies in the system, all different types

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>of discrepancies, and so the forgiveness was to clear that up.

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 3>And then there is a portion that is specifically for

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<v Speaker 3>people who are disable they either you know, they can't

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<v Speaker 3>work or whatever their situation may be, whatever the criteria is,

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<v Speaker 3>and they can no longer pay the lan they can't

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<v Speaker 3>make the long repayments. And so let me just say

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<v Speaker 3>real quick what the difference is between that example, because

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<v Speaker 3>I do recognize that now you want to give Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden credit for something, but then when we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the stimulus, it's like, oh, let me tell you all

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons why Donald Trump ain't shit, because that's how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel. Here's the thing with this situation with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>We just talked about the people that had to fight

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<v Speaker 3>him to make it happen and how folks was dying

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<v Speaker 3>and shit as it was going on. With this situation

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<v Speaker 3>with the nine billion dollars, it was a part of

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden's campaign promises, which he has not lived up

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<v Speaker 3>to one hundred percent. There are people who have been

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<v Speaker 3>out there protesting about it, writing, meeting, doing everything, and

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<v Speaker 3>he put people in place in his administration to focus

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<v Speaker 3>on trying to get it done. So the first thing

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<v Speaker 3>they did is they attempted to cancel most student debt. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the first thing they did you already know?

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't even gonna say it. Oh, didn't go again.

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 3>We know who shot that down, we know what happened,

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 3>we know who voted against it. We know the Supreme

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Court that Donald Trump stacked shot it down.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what happened.

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>So now they have to piecemeal it. So going back

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to clear up something that was done wrong to people

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>is actually a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good thing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing to me to go back and.

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<v Speaker 3>Say this is wrong, let's try to correct this, let's

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.959
<v Speaker 3>continue to work on it. Do I think that, oh

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<v Speaker 3>that makes him the best president that's ever lived and there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not more to be done? Hell no, Hell no, of

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>course we know you says shit. Here's the thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on student debt that I need to be I

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<v Speaker 1>need that.

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<v Speaker 3>I need that loan forgiveness because if I could spend

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<v Speaker 3>more of my monthly money going towards the mortgages that

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<v Speaker 3>I want to have for the properties that I want

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 3>to own additional properties, then that helps me to create

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 3>more generational wealth for my family and my bloodline.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>So it actually would be very helpful to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not trying to sit up here and praise

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>something that's bullshit because I need it as well. But

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<v Speaker 3>the point still remains is that they have said, let

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<v Speaker 3>us go and do this because it needs to be corrected.

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<v Speaker 4>Now all the people you know what I heard, but

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen a lot of people on on your page

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<v Speaker 4>saying that it worked for them, that they got loan forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of that, well, but that's those are different.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are so he's done. So for instance, our cousin

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>or my cousin, your friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Nadine McQueen, she is one of those people that applied

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<v Speaker 3>and got her loan forgiven, but she works, she worked

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<v Speaker 3>for corrections.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>There are people who work.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 3>In hospitals, and so there are different layers like something.

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're a city employee, worked in certain

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 3>parts of government, then those people god forgiveness and it goes.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>On and on and on.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 3>We want to see it across the board, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>for people like us who are for a person like

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 3>me who doesn't work within a government agency, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>in any of those categories. We want to see it

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<v Speaker 3>across the board because that's what he promised, and that

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 3>is actually what.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Needs to be done to try to level the play

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<v Speaker 1>field of wealth in this nation.

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<v Speaker 3>However, there are people who have received student debt relief.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, That's what I'm saying. I know people that

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<v Speaker 2>that's specifically. It worked for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank God, I'm so happy. So I'm like, I hear

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying. But at the end of the day,

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 4>we understand like people act like they don't understand that

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 4>the president has limited power. And that's why there's three

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 4>branches of government, right because they don't want the president

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 4>to be able to do whatever he wants to do

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 4>all the time, and his balances and when you have

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<v Speaker 4>when you have a house and you know whatever in

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court, and you have all of these people and

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 4>they they and they're bent on trying to stop you

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 4>from doing what you want to do. And I've watched

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 4>the man makes several executive orders to pause the student

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 4>loans because that's within his executive he can make those decisions.

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 4>He can say, all right, we're gonna pause him for

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 4>this amount of time. It's amount of time we could do.

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 4>Now he's doing this, you know, this non billion that

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 4>he's able to come up with funds that is within

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, his.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Power to do. He's accomplishing it. It's like I'm listening.

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm know Joe.

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Biden fan, but what I can say is that the

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 4>man is definitely attempting to do shit that I didn't.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen no president do for black people in

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 4>a long time. That's just my personal opinion. I don't

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 4>give a fuck what nobody says. I ain't capping for nobody.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about none of that. But I'm specifically

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 4>watching shit happen. I'm like, Okay, the man's attempting to

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 4>do shit already, know just like we if we if

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 4>we didn't learn anything from Obama's presidency, then you understand

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 4>that they ain't trying to let you do too much

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<v Speaker 4>shit for black I don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>They just not.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't, if you have not seen that from

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<v Speaker 4>Obama's presidency, if you didn't see what they literally did,

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<v Speaker 4>how they pretty much try to rubber stamp everything that

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 4>man was trying to do. If you didn't see that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a lot of people that just not

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<v Speaker 4>politically stud enough to understand exactly what's going on. So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get mad. You just want you just want

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<v Speaker 4>the basic ship you want. I want my bills to

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<v Speaker 4>be good.

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<v Speaker 2>I want money.

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<v Speaker 4>You want, You want the ship that you want, so

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<v Speaker 4>you don't give a fuck about none of the political

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<v Speaker 4>You don't understand the ins and outs and the people

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<v Speaker 4>that's over here and how you gotta be cool with

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 4>this one and get this one to be on your

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 4>side and all this ship, and how these people want

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 4>to make sure that you didn't do nothing because they

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 4>got a presidential election to come up, and if it

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 4>looks like you're doing something, then it's harder for them

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<v Speaker 4>to get into office. So they got to try to

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<v Speaker 4>block you and try to say that you ain't doing

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<v Speaker 4>like you don't understand these games that's being played. Then

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 4>you just sit there and you frustrated, right, And it's

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 4>just like I like, I literally for the last few years,

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<v Speaker 4>I really just sat back and studied and watched this shit,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, it's a hell of a game.

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<v Speaker 3>And meanwhile, I could still say on the other side,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a bunch of other shit that's not happening, like

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>that he still is not doing and not doing properly,

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 3>and I and so I can I can be a

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<v Speaker 3>person who is nuanced, who understands all the different areas,

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<v Speaker 3>and still I can say, you know what, I'm still

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 3>not going to you know, I'm not going to take

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>my foot off the gas. We're still gonna push for

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 3>what we know is right. And this situation is so

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 3>many others.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is what it is.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 3>And you know there'll be people who will feel and

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 3>it's so it's it's completely okay to have people who say,

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't give you.

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<v Speaker 1>No brownie points for this. You said you was going

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<v Speaker 1>to do more.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to do it because because you're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do the hoodwink trick of we did a little

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 3>bit and now.

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I tried and I could not figure it out.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 3>And in fact, Tony mentioned, I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 3>is one hundred percent possible, but he says it is,

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 3>so you know, people should do their research. He talked

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 3>about the Higher Education AT and how with the Higher

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Education AT, he could the president could cancel all student debt.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see, you know, let's see. I've asked a few

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>other my political people. There's some people who disagree, others

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 3>who are saying they're looking into it, and I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 3>to hear back on where where folks stand on that

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 3>and is it possible, because perhaps we need to GEO

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<v Speaker 3>target as they say, or really target our ass to

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<v Speaker 3>being used this act to cancel all students.

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<v Speaker 2>That doing that somebody ain't well.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we don't often always listen to

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<v Speaker 1>each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why that's why I reposted it because it

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>seemed that there's also a solution. So let's see what

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<v Speaker 3>else do we to talk about today? Oh, I did

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 3>want to give a thought of the day.

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, I did a.

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<v Speaker 3>Panel this past weekend for Charlemagne to god his Mental

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<v Speaker 3>Health Mental Wealth Expo, which you know, Charlemagne is really

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<v Speaker 3>focused on mental health, specifically trying to get black men

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<v Speaker 3>to get therapists and to get more in tune with

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:23.959
<v Speaker 3>our mental well being.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the in the panel, during the panel, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>On with Michelle Williams of Destiny's Child as well as

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 3>styles P and we were talking about, you know, just

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 3>this whole idea of like getting help and also knowing

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 3>our truth and knowing our story and understanding what makes

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 3>us unique and why we have to had a certain

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 3>type of.

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<v Speaker 1>Or certain types of people who are in those rooms with.

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<v Speaker 3>Us helping us to think through our stuff, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that struck me that I said on the

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<v Speaker 3>panel and it really resonated with the room is that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody can't help us.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody can't help us here you sitting down with people who.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know the history of black people, black men, black women,

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 3>our stories as Africans who were stolen and brought to

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 3>this nation, robbed of our culture, robbed of our names,

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 3>if you rob of our homeland, disconnected from one another,

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<v Speaker 3>disconnected from family members, from tribes, from tribal culture. If

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<v Speaker 3>you don't understand that, as a therapist, it is only

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 3>a limited amount of support you can actually give to

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Africans here in America, US as black people trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get an understanding of the challenges of our households and

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 3>our families and our relationships with our children and all

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 3>the things that we deal with and suffer with every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody can't help you. So make sure when you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>for a therapist, it doesn't mean not to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the one who just has a real good clinical understanding,

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, because the first person to help meant with

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 3>the drug treatment stuff, was somebody who I know was unconnected,

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>was disconnected if you will, from my realities, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and all the things I just said about our culture,

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>But what the person was able to do was provide

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 3>me with their own story right about their drug addiction

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 3>and the issues and the anxiety or whatever. So I'm

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 3>not saying you should not also make sure you maintain

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<v Speaker 3>some type of therapy until you can be in this quest,

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 3>this constant quest to find someone who can take you

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 3>to that next level. Because he was able to help

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 3>me with the surface. But my current therapist knows our

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 3>history and believes and understands and lives and walks and

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 3>is a black man, and so what he takes me

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>is to a place that goes deeper into the anxiety

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 3>of trying to be perfect, of the failures of society

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 3>as a black woman, being demonized, and everything that I suffered.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 3>And so everybody can't help us. That's all I want

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 3>to say, is everybody can't help us.

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 2>They can't, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think at some point I have to get to

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<v Speaker 4>a therapist. I don't think I'm not comfortable. I've had

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.479
<v Speaker 4>therapists before, and I've sat with therapists, and I don't

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I've had the one person that made

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 4>me feel that I needed to talk to them or

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 4>open up or made me feel like there was some

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 4>level of something that they was doing for me that

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't do for myself. So you know, maybe I

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 4>have to get to that because like I'm always my

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 4>own therapist. I feel like whatever throughout my life, I've

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 4>been dealing with trauma and feel like I had to

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 4>deal with it and I had to overcome it and

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.800
<v Speaker 4>I found my way out of so many different traumatic

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 4>situations on my own that I just haven't. I haven't

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 4>found anyone that I'm able to.

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 2>Talk to that makes me feel like you haven't looked. Yeah,

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe I have a looked, but I just haven't. I haven't.

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 4>But I've just never even found that in life, right,

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying, Like, even in life, I've

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 4>talked to people and they hear me and they understand,

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 4>but I don't really think the average person is able

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 4>just to identify with the shit that I've gone through.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Like when you say this person identified and gave you

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 4>their own There's never been one person that gave me

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 4>a story, with the exception of maybe tone. Tone is

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 4>probably the closest thing to a therapist that I've ever

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 4>had to somebody that gave me a story that was

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 4>similar to mins that made me feel and the thing

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 4>is is because we both deal with our trauma the

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 4>same way. Like he's a person like me, Like he whatever,

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 4>everything he went through, he figured it out on his own.

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:36.919
<v Speaker 4>He got up, he just like, fuck it, I'm gonna

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 4>figure it out. I gotta be strong for me. He's

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 4>a lonely like this is how he's always been. So

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 4>when he's telling me something, it comes it resonates because

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 4>I not only do I see him moving a certain

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 4>way and I know that we have with similar similar

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 4>in those regards, it also is that the story that

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 4>he tells me and the way that he rationalized it

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 4>and visualized it's the same way that I did. So

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, I guess I got to find somebody that

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, makes me feel that comfortable to have those conversations.

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I think, Tom, you know, a friend is a friend,

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 3>but a clinical therapist, a person who is a psychiatrist,

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 3>psychologist is a total different thing. And I'm just sharing

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 3>that with you too, because I have friends who knew

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 3>about my situation. You were one of the friends that

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 3>knew about the addiction, but you could only tell me

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 3>certain things. But it takes somebody who has studied in therapy, psychology,

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>that can help you with a deeper understanding of a

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of like unraveling the things that you got to

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>work on. Right as humans, all of us have stuff.

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I believe that every person, and specifically every black person

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 3>in the world, and especially in this crazy ass amercle

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 3>we live in, should have a therapist.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Is somebody who's clinically.

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Capable.

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 3>It takes time to break down those barriers, but I

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 3>certainly needed it, and I don't think that I could

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 3>even make it if I didn't have somebody who can

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 3>hear things that I'm not even saying and can use

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 3>their study, their studied knowledge to help with some of

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.240
<v Speaker 3>our issues. I think, you know, that's just something anyway,

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel. So that's my thought of the day.

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Everybody can't heal. You get the therapy, but make sure

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 3>you're also in a lifelong quest to find somebody who

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 3>knows your cultural story, our cultural background, so that when

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 3>they're meeting with you, when they're talking with you, it's

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 3>not just on the surface, but it's deep down to

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:35.720
<v Speaker 3>our roots.

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we don't have a guest today. We got only

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.919
<v Speaker 3>a few more minutes. So it doesn't give you at

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 3>a time.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 4>For I don't even need it, man. You know what

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't get it is that what I don't get

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 4>is how we don't understand that oppression and war breeds death,

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 4>and it breeds contempt, and it breeds hate. And if

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 4>we if we really are, if we're really invested in

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 4>stopping death and stopping violence and stopping all of these things,

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 4>then we have to stop a pressure. We have to

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 4>stop the things that cause the things that we really

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 4>saying that we Again, I tell people all the time,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 4>when you take respect off the table, when you take

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 4>humanizing people off the table, when you.

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Take when you leave a pressure on the table, then

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 2>you actually leave violence on the table.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 4>And with that said, there's another great episode of Street Politicians,

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 4>the number one podcast in the world. Shout out to

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 4>our non guests. But we had some dope dialogue today,

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, and we talked about some good things.

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully something we said resonated. I hope if you're a

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 4>hip hop artist, I hope you listening.

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 2>It's time for you.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 4>If you're a dope hip hop artist, right now the

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.479
<v Speaker 4>time for real music. People are looking for those type

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 4>of individuals and they're looking for you. So make some

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 4>good music. I'm not gonna always be right to meek

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 4>A demas salaries and I could always be wrong. We

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 4>will both always and I mean always, be authentic peace.

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