1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: Lukes Diner with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast one 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Elevemn Productions. iHeartMedia Radio, I heart Podcast. Luke's Diner, Episode 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: one on one interview with the amazing Yes I said 6 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: it amazing Alisa A. 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: Donovan. 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: You know her as Amber from Clueless, both the movie 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: and the TV series, and recently on Worst Cooks in America. 10 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Here she is, Alisa. Welcome to Luke's Diner. 11 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: Thank you. 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here. 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: It's great to have you. Were very excited you were 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: on Worst Cooks in America Select Edition. What made you 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: say yes to doing a cooking show like this? 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: I was, well, I grew up in a household with 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: a mom who absolutely despised cooking, like she was anti 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: the kitchen. Yet she loved to have dinner parties, so 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: we would have a lot of people over and those 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: people would be drunk and starving. So I literally had 21 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: to like teach myself how to cook. So when they 22 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: asked me to do this, I was like, oh, I 23 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: definitely want to do this because one I want to 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: learn sort of how to be better at it, but 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: also I knew, like I felt like I had some skills, 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: and then you get there and it is like it's 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: one of the hardest things I've ever done, right, it 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: was like it was difficult but so fun. 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: So you know, before you went on the show, what 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: was the best dish that you could cook up? What's 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: your favorite? 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: So I love what I did. The first thing I 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: did on the show was a beef tenderline with rosemary. 34 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: That is like because you know, if you can use 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: a thermometer, it's like a pretty, you know, decent and 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: if the butcher can tie it up for you, it's 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: like a lot of steps that someone else does and 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: then you just sort of have to check in on it. 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: But what I really really love to make now is bolonaise. 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: But I do it like in my own sort of 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: style because I'm an essentially organic eater, like grass fed 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: beef and organic vegetables and all that, so I kind 43 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: of add and I have a cow dairy allergy, so 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: I substitute everything with goat or sheep, so this like 45 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: yummy bolonaise with I put a lot of vegetables in there, 46 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: which is not traditional, like baby broccoli and kale, and 47 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: spinach and arugula just to like get it as you know, 48 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: nutritious as possible. And it takes a long time, which 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: I love. 50 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: And you're you're using this on any manner of pasta. 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I love this. This is another thing I tried 52 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: to make. It was funny because Anne Gosh, I just 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: love her and I am I'm so so terribly sad 54 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: to hear that she is not with us. I kind 55 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: of can't haven't really metabolized that yet. But she was 56 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: like she was so encouraging and then also super scary. 57 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: So she would like say something like that's right, Yes, 58 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 2: you got it, and then she would say, why would 59 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: you ask me that I just told you. It was 60 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: like always super on your haa, on the edge of 61 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: your seat. But so the pasta I try, I remembered. 62 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there is this pasta from this place 63 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: and NAPA and they it's lemon feticini. So it's like 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: lemon infused fetuccini. And so when we made pasta on 65 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: the show, I went, I'm going to impress her because 66 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to embed the lemon in there. And she 67 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: had this moment where she was like, oh, that seems 68 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: really sort of impressive, you know, but then I couldn't 69 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: really execute it, but she was impressed with the idea. 70 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: So generally you can put put with any pasta, but 71 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: I love this lemon. 72 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: Fetuccini, all right, And did you do you add some 73 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of pasta water to the bolognaise so 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: it sticks to thee. 75 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: So I didn't realize this was important until a very 76 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: good friend of mine who comes from a big Italian family, 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: and she and her husband and their kids were our 78 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: families or friends, and they came over for the bolonese 79 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: and I had this moment of like, am I really 80 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: making bolonise for an Italian woman? Like what is wrong 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: with me? But her husband loves it. And then just 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: as I was changing the watch, she's like, oh no, 83 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: take some of the pasta water. Like she was there 84 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: at that specific moment and taught me that that's what 85 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. 86 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: I thought it was the opposite, that you're supposed to 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: get rid of it, like rinse it out, rinse it out. 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, the minute I learned to do that, my 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: family looked at me in a whole different way, in 91 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: a whole new way. Wait, respect it was like, yeah, 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: you made its stick to the pasta. 93 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: De right, Yeah, it's impressive. 94 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Tell me, was there a moment when you reconsidered your 95 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: choice to be on the show. Oh, what was the 96 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: most difficult part. 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: About so many times? First of all, I've never worked 98 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: that many hours in a row, you know TV we 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: worked like fifteen hours norm this was human It's seventeen eighteen. 100 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: And in fact, Anne said the first week, so it 101 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: was maybe our third or fourth day, it was two 102 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, and she said, I just want 103 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: to say, this is the longest day in history on 104 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: Worst Cooks in America. Like, we were sort of like 105 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: waffling around, like you're starting to hallucinate, and then you're like, 106 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, I have a sharp knife, like things 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: are on their flames. You're like, this is dangerous. And 108 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: then getting and I felt like and I like what 109 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: did I sign up for? And then but every we're 110 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: all in the same boat, you know, you know, and 111 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: then you're like going back to the hotel and everybody's like, 112 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: are we are we? Are we going back? Are we 113 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: all going to go back? Like? Are we going to tomorrow? 114 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: You know, maybe we're all going to band together and 115 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: just like jump into the Hudson River. But it was 116 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: so many times I did, especially I almost got kicked 117 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: off the first episode, and I thought I went from 118 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: thinking I'm going to win this show to oh, or 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: I might just be kicked off the first day. It 120 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: was so absurd and crazy. It's really I would do 121 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: it to get in a heartbeat. So it's like I've 122 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: been conditioned, I guess to be abused. 123 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let's let's tie it into 124 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. If Laurel I Gilmore competed on the show, 125 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: do you think she would have failed? Yes, then you. 126 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Did probably yeah, I think so. 127 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: She had a pop tart situation. 128 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: Would pop right right. And then sometimes you think sort 129 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: of in the beginning, you can be you know, sort 130 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: of like charming and silly about it and it's serious business, 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: like it's not messing around. There are things and but 132 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: she it was so great because she had so much 133 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: joy in actually teaching you. You know, the moments where 134 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: I really like learned something, and then when you get 135 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: better and she praises you. I felt like it was 136 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: like better than years of therapy. You know, I'm like 137 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: I got through it and I won, and I'm. 138 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Loved and I know it was an accident, right, but 139 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: you knocked over Anne. 140 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the plate. 141 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what happened? And how did she react to that? 142 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: What did she say to you? 143 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I also thought I was going 144 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: to be eliminated for doing that. So I Mark Long, 145 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: who was on my team, who is a very large, 146 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: very strong man, had I think won that challenge, and 147 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: he picked up Anne and like, you know, uh, carried 148 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: her around because he was so excited. So then I 149 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: think I'm getting kicked off. Now I'm also exhausted, like 150 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: in a state of I can't even understand how I 151 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: got here, and now I'm going to be eliminated and 152 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: so humiliated. And then Anne announces no one's going home, 153 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: and my elation was just like oh yea, and I 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: when I'm gonna do the same thing the guy on 155 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: my team did. I'm going to pick up Anne and 156 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: it's gonna be so funny, and I just like ran 157 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: at her and her expression when she saw that I 158 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: was going to pick her up was like, oh my god. 159 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: And then it just all happened so fast, and the 160 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: next thing I know, we were on the ground and 161 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: I went, what's happening? And then everyone is like terrified. 162 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know if I had like given her a concussion. 163 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: I was just like beside myself. And she laughed so 164 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: hard and was like, I love you. This is the 165 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: best thing that's ever happened, Like she had such a 166 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: great attitude about it. And then after you know, we cut, 167 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: we go back to the dressing rooms and the producer 168 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: who was working with me came over and I was like, 169 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: I almost started crying. I said, I'm so sorry, I'm 170 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: so embarrassed, like it's like I lost my mind. And 171 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: She's said, this was one of the greatest moments we 172 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: have ever had on this show. And I was like, 173 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: are you going to Are you sending me home? Because 174 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: did I hurt am you know? And she said, no, no, 175 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: You're definitely not going home now. 176 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: So would you recommend to employees run at their CEOs 177 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: and just for sure up and slam them on the ground. 178 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Would that get them ahead? 179 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: It's like really showing your commitment, like get in there. 180 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: Be a little bit scary, but a little intimidating and 181 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: really like I'm taking one for the team and or 182 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm taking you. 183 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Down with me. Yeah, yeah, all right, So everybody listening, 184 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, do that, go to work, go to your CEO. 185 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Just run at them, pick them up, get them on 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the ground, and the promotions will come. 187 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: I guarantee you they will love it. 188 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: And say Elisa donov And sent me. 189 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: Right, it's my recommendation. 190 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: How would Suki Saint James feel watching you compete on 191 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: Worst Cooks? What do you think? What do you think 192 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Suki would say? I? 193 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: How did she get here? I mean, the thing that 194 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: people don't understand about these shows is that, first of all, 195 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you can sort of see symtems. 196 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: You're sharing a stove with another person most of the time, 197 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: so it's four burners or six I don't recall, but 198 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: you're sharing that space with another cook, so you have 199 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: to like lean over things and if you need the 200 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: smaller flame and they're using the smaller flame, like you 201 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: can't do it, and then they're talking to you, and 202 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: then you're getting distracted, and and it's the time thing, 203 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: right that they're always like telling you you got to go, 204 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: you gotta go, you gotta go. And so even when 205 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: you go to you know, grocery shop quote unquote, which you, 206 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: they you know, give you time to pick your ingredients. 207 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: You're just panicked. So half the time you come back 208 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: with like, you know, a banana and an onion and 209 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: they're like go and then you say, oh wow, I 210 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: have nothing that I need and then you're just in trouble. 211 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you so. But now you know what 212 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: it's like to be under pressure in a kitchen. Would 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: you survive like a busy shift at Luke Steiner? What 214 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: do you think with Luke there? 215 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: You know what I think I would be. I worked 216 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: in restaurants when I was in high school and college 217 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: in New York City, and again I tried to get 218 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: by on the charm part, you know, so like I'm 219 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: fun and oh a little zany, everybody losy and then 220 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: in the end it was like you're fired. I don't 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: think that I could handle the stress because I get 222 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: like very uh. It's a part of being an empathetic person. 223 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: I think, I like take on what's going on. So 224 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: the panic of anyone else just rendered me, you know, useless, 225 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: And then I do the opposite, Like there was a 226 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: moment where Anne said you were completely spastic, and then 227 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: now you've like calmed down but now it's like you're 228 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: in a coma, you know, like, and I was like, well, 229 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: I feel very zen right now, Like I just kind 230 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: of reversed everything, and she was like, well, just zen 231 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: a little bit faster, and so zen faster is my 232 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: I learned. 233 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: So what's something that that was surprising you? You walked 234 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: away learning from the show? Any skills that you use 235 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: when cooking? 236 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: Now, some really basic things that I did not know, 237 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: like how to hold a knife. For example, you don't 238 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: put your finger along the top of it. You hold 239 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: it with your your your your your thumb and your 240 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: first finger, and you have more control over the night. 241 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: It feels counterintuitive, but it actually when you're doing it, 242 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: it completely works. And then you can use the other 243 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: hand because I'm alrighty the left hand on top to 244 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: just like you know. 245 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 246 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: And so what Anne would do is she gives you 247 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: a red mark on your finger if you use the 248 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: knife incorrectly, like just put a red sharpie. So I 249 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: had so many red and then it makes you not 250 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: do it. 251 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: But. 252 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would. I woke up with red sharpie 253 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: on my pillow in the hotel and I was like, 254 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: this has taking me over. And also what else did 255 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: I learn? This was simple. This is one of the 256 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: moments I when when you crack an egg, if you 257 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: get the shell goes into the egg, you know, and 258 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: then you're trying to get it out trying. The thing 259 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: you do is you take the rest, the remainder of 260 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: the shell itself to scoop it out, and it somehow 261 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: sticks to it. It is the most efficient. It like 262 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: changed my life. And I said to Anne in the moment, 263 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: oh my god, if that's the only thing that I learned, like, 264 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: this is incredibly useful. And she was like, well, I 265 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: certainly hope that is not the only thing that you 266 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: learn on this show. I was like, okay, I'm sorry. 267 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry the eggshell hack. I'm gonna remember it. Did 268 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: I did that this morning. 269 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: Isn't it? It's so irritating trying to. 270 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: Get it with your finger it doesn't work. 271 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: Or like a fork or a spoon doesn't work. 272 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: I spent five minutes destroying the yolks. Yes, yeah, so, 273 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: but you EmPATH that you are. You were competing for charity. 274 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: The American is stuper for cancer research, which I know 275 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: is a cause that's it's really close to your heart. 276 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Did that add a different kind of pressure during the 277 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: competition and be on the show. Oh what do you 278 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: hope people take away from your work and cancer at 279 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Because I mean. 280 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: For sure that was half the reason of really wanting 281 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: because the further you go, if you win, you obviously 282 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: win a lot more money for your charity than if 283 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: you leave earlier. So I really wanted to stay the 284 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: whole time. It was a significantly larger amount of money 285 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: that I could have made for them. But why that 286 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: is so important to me is I lost my dad 287 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: to cancer many years ago, and I went through that 288 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: process with him and saw how the traditional Western medicine 289 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: really at that time and still now has not really 290 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: figured out how important lifestyle of nutrition and all those 291 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: sorts of things contribute to both getting cancer and treating 292 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: it right. And this organization in particular, really focuses on 293 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: those very things, so they're preventative as well as in treatment. So, 294 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, watching my dad his you know his situation, 295 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: his doctors were like, oh, just you know, you just 296 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: have to gain weight, We just want to put some 297 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: meat on your bone, so eat you know, soda and 298 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: donuts and whatever. And I was, I, you know, have 299 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: been a healthy organic eater for many, many, many many years. 300 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: So I was trying to talk to my dad about this, 301 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: and he he wasn't going to listen to me, his 302 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: you know, twenty something year old daughter, when his doctors 303 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: were telling him something different. So so that this organization 304 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: in particular is really a great one. So I sadly 305 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: didn't win as much money for them as I had hoped, 306 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: but I did make a little for them. 307 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: Well good for you for trying. I mean, that's very honorable. 308 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: You wrote a memoir and you're a screenwriter. Yes, okay, 309 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: you know I've taken into my turn as a screenwriter. 310 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell me about your writing process. 311 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: So the book, the memoir is about losing my dad 312 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: to cancer and how it changed my life and my career. 313 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: And he came to me in these dreams and other 314 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: worldly sorts of experiences that helped me to heal and 315 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: move on. And so that's what the book is about. 316 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: And I originally I've been a writer since I was 317 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: a kid, you know, writing In high school, I really 318 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: started to do a lot of autobiographical fiction and had 319 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: a phenomenal teacher. And in college I was a writing 320 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: me and drama major. So I've always been a writer, 321 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: but I when my dad passed away. I first did 322 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: this as little performance pieces like I would like I'd 323 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: spoken word nights in LA would read portions of it. 324 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 2: And then I always wanted to write a book. And 325 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, my agents at the time and everyone around 326 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: me was like, writing a book, what are you talking 327 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: about it? Do make it a TV show. I'm like, no, 328 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: it's not a show. And so I kept writing the book. 329 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: But then they said, well, write it as a play 330 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: at least. So I wrote it as a one woman 331 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: show and I did it at the Geffen at the 332 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: Audrey Skerball as a benefit, and it was an incredible experience, 333 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: and I felt like, Oh, this is what I'm supposed 334 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: to be doing with my life, Like this is why 335 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: I have been so fortunate to be on these TV 336 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: shows and these movies that have made me some money 337 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: and given me some notoriety that allows me to have 338 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: this platform to tell stories that are meaningful and that 339 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: are about the human condition and you know, the pain 340 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: and the beauty and the joy and the laughter and 341 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: the tears of life. So I felt like, from that moment, 342 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do, Like I didn't 343 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: know how where it was going to go or how 344 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 2: I was going to make it happen. So then I 345 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: started to write it as a movie. I wrote it 346 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: as but like I just started to write it in 347 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: all the different versions, and I wound up getting the 348 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: book deal first. But you know, because the writing is 349 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: so different, right, screenwriting is an entirely different animal from 350 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: writing narrative of you know, writing autobiographical fiction or memoir. 351 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: So when I first was doing the play, I had 352 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: some writers come during the rehearsal process, the development process 353 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: to get their feedback, and they would say things like 354 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: some of my favorite lines when you say la da 355 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: da da da da, it's beautiful, And I was like, 356 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: thank you so much, and they would say, and you 357 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: have to cut it because nobody you can't. It doesn't work. 358 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: You need to put that in the book. You don't 359 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: put that in the stage piece. And it was like 360 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: really hard to to like metabolize all of that because 361 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: I felt like, this is this is what it's supposed 362 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: to be. So I really learned a lot through the 363 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: process of you know, going to people who are better 364 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: at this than me and have been doing it for 365 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: longer to be able to guide me into the specificity 366 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: of how to write for each medium. And so now 367 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: the film is in development that I wrote and that 368 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to direct and the I but the book 369 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 2: deal is what ultimately came first. 370 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Wow, you're making a film about it. That's fantastic. Good 371 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: for you. 372 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's so easy to raise money 373 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: for independent movies. 374 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: No, it's I don't know why the jobs and raise 375 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: money for anything. It's it's like, you're kidding me. Everybody 376 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: wants to donate that. 377 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody, but they're throwing money. 378 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: At us, send some my way because I have a 379 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: bunch of independents. 380 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Well I have so much extrass so I'm just I'll just. 381 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: I know right, it's annoying. Got to get rid of it. 382 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: Well that's a a what a what a story? What 383 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: a story? And congratulations on seeing that process through because 384 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: obviously we're being silly here. It's impossible to raise money 385 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: for independent films. It is, especially now. I mean it 386 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: used to. It was hard twenty years ago, twenty five 387 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: years ago. Like now it's impossible. So congratulations on that. 388 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: What's the name of the memoir? 389 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: Wake me when you leave? 390 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: And where can people get it. 391 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: So they can get it wherever you get books anywhere. 392 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: It's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Audible. I'd read the 393 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: audio book, which was really a special part of the 394 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: whole process for me, which happened at the very end, 395 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: because it was like it was sort of of like 396 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: doing the play again but not but getting it was 397 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: sort of like the perfect coming together of all of it. 398 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: Like I thought about how when my writer friends were like, 399 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: you have to cut this, I'm like, now I get 400 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: to say it anyway in the audio book. 401 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: Listen. I save the most impactful and difficult question for 402 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: the very last. 403 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: So ready, I'm ready for it. 404 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Here we go, And I apologize for this the first 405 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: pots I've done this to it. I mean to put 406 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: you on the spot, but this is it's a very 407 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: very very tough question and your answer is hugely important. 408 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: It really will cause it will impact the rest of 409 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: my life. 410 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to do it. I'm sorry. If you 411 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: were to come into Luke Steiner, what would you order 412 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: and where would you sit? 413 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: Oh, definitely I would order a burger because that because 414 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: you have to, and I would have it with again 415 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: because I don't do it. I'd love a cheeseburger, So 416 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: if you have goat cheese, I'd get some goat on 417 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: there and some grains and fries. I would assume that 418 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: you have like freshly cut fries. I don't want to 419 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: be frozen bs so and straight up Russa. I like 420 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: a sweet potato fry, but I'm more of a classic. 421 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: Let's do a Russet fry freshly cut, and then I'm 422 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: definitely going to sit. So I like to be, you know, 423 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: in the spot where you can see everything else. But 424 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to be sequestered, you know what I mean. 425 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: I want you, I want to be a part of 426 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: the mix, but I don't want to have anybody sitting 427 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: behind me. 428 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: So you're not sitting at the counter. 429 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh you know. I do like a count or too. 430 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Though everybody's behind me, and everybody's behind me. 431 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: Is there a mirror in front so I could see 432 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: who's vying, you know? But then I'd have to watch 433 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: myself eat. I might sit at the counter. 434 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: I do like the counter, Johnny. Uh yeah, are all 435 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: our assistant over here is telling you that is the 436 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: correct answer. Congratulations and you will receive Uh. We're going 437 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: to match all the funding you've received so far from 438 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: your god surprise, congratulations at Leasta. 439 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: Donovan, Oh my goodness, thank god. 440 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing your story. We really 441 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And good luck with everything, good luck with 442 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: the film, good luck, thank you. Please come back, you're well. 443 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: I'll come back when when we you know, when the 444 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: film's made in forty. 445 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: Five years, you know, we'll probably still be doing. 446 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: This'll be here, we will, and then I'll need I 447 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: will be able to sit at the counter. I'm going 448 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: to need like a walker. I'm going to need a back. 449 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: We'll get you. We'll put you're on a sled and 450 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: we'll pull you. Know. You will appear in two thousand 451 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: and sixty five, in again and again and again and 452 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: again and again. That's what it will be called. Anyway, 453 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: all the best to you, and remember everybody, keep those cards, 454 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: letters coming. The best fans on the planet. And there 455 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: just ain't no debate about it. And somebody tried to 456 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: debate me the other day and I crushed them, gilmour Gill, 457 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: you did. I crushed them. 458 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: I crushed I believe it. 459 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: But it was really nice about very nice about still 460 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: don't mess with these fans and where you lead, we 461 00:26:41,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: will follow. Stay safe, everyone. 462 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody'll forget. 463 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at i Am all In podcast, 464 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com