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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Let's live on a Monday edition at Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the wonderful, terrific Tymas Powell.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Bo, How you doing well?

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Speaker 4: To see you in person since we did the show

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Speaker 4: at hide Bank.

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Speaker 3: It was the last time I see you High.

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Speaker 2: Bank Discillery down in Columbus. Yeah, we did that. That

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Speaker 2: was in November something, mid November, I think we did.

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Speaker 2: You were on with me in the mornings, Mondays and Fridays.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday Fridays pretty much.

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Speaker 2: For Wednesdays are kind of forgettable for me. But Monday, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean a first Friday. Excuse what was I saying?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? I don't even know what that

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Speaker 2: is we're talking about here?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did that all all season, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is it. And then the last time you and

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Speaker 2: I did this show together in person was Man, we

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Speaker 2: were at the location, right, was that it was it undisclosed?

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Speaker 2: Hello Gibbet. By the way, is that what it was?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 2: Is the last time we did?

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Speaker 3: I think we off season, but I think I was

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Speaker 2: You were with z once when I was out. I

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Speaker 2: remember that, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't recall, and I got a good sing.

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Speaker 2: And the last time I remember is you came and

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Speaker 2: you and I did a show over at Gibbee Summer Cottage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did do that.

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing place.

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Speaker 3: It was really missed that right about now.

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Speaker 2: I missed that place. Supper coo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice and green, and I was good to go.

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Speaker 2: Everything you need, it's everything you need? How you living? Buddy?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, you saw your first hockey game.

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Speaker 7: I did you know?

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Speaker 3: The thing about this is so everybody.

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Speaker 4: I think you were the first person to say, like

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Speaker 4: you got to see it in person because the guys

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Speaker 4: moved so much faster in person.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I was in the press box.

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Speaker 2: So that is a My favorite place to watch hockey

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Speaker 2: is the press spot.

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Speaker 4: Now, I wanted to be on the glass. I want

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Speaker 4: to push the glass like I've seen in the movies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't see the up top. You see

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Speaker 2: how the game develops I feel the same football. My

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Speaker 2: you can see the whole field. And I think the

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Speaker 2: same is true of hockey. Like up there you can

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Speaker 2: see the whole rink. You can see how players are developing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I The only the hardest part is

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Speaker 4: sometimes I lost the puck. That's a small Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: can't really see the puck that good, But once you

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Speaker 4: find it, like you gotta follow it because if you

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Speaker 4: lose it, it's hard to find. But I enjoyed it

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Speaker 4: though overall I wanted to see a fight, didn't see that,

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Speaker 4: and I wanted them to score. I ended up leaving

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Speaker 4: I could have stayed.

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Speaker 3: And seen the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: But it's a whole another story.

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Speaker 2: You wrote, lose the puck it is, or you just

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Speaker 2: said lose the puck. It's one of the damnedest things

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Speaker 2: world and you lose the puck, even on television, up

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Speaker 2: lose the puck so base I don't understand why the

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Speaker 2: the puck, because they don't. They stay there. Everything on

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Speaker 2: the near boards you lose. Every time the puck hits

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Speaker 4: I also found out that I couldn't play hockey. Believe

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Speaker 4: smashes me on the glass, it's not even about hockey

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Speaker 4: no more. I'm telling you right now, I know that

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Speaker 4: you they gotta have a puck in their vicinity and

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Speaker 4: all those things. Forget the rules. You put me up

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Speaker 4: against that glass, it's own for the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the game. So do you equate getting put up

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Speaker 4: There's nothing worse than somebody.

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Speaker 2: Because you got hit that you go to jail. You

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Speaker 4: Be like, it would be like getting blind side blocked.

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Speaker 4: That's what that That's what the equivalent to getting put

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Speaker 4: on the glass and somebody block you. You running and

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Speaker 4: Like that's that's about the same. Do you did you

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Speaker 7: I did.

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Speaker 2: It was a heck of a spectacle. Ninety five thousand people,

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Speaker 4: It was nice to be like that high up to

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Speaker 3: So that's on my to do list.

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Speaker 2: So we had we had Ohio State Michigan up here

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Speaker 2: the weekend. We've got the crew coming up here for

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Speaker 2: I think what you're seeing is more and more sports

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Speaker 2: to take what is Look, you got a guardian's hat on.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred and sixty two games, it's eighty one

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Speaker 2: home games. Yes, you have to find ways if you can,

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Speaker 2: to spice this stuff up a little bit, to make

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Speaker 2: Saturday night down there was one of forty one home games.

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Speaker 2: That's all it was. Those There are two points, nothing more,

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Speaker 2: like that all happened because it was a one off.

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Speaker 2: So they do a nice job. We don't have to

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Speaker 2: do that in this sport. NFL doesn't have to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got seventeen games.

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Speaker 3: They do because in Brazil and all these other places,

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Speaker 2: That's about something else. So that's not about making a

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: This is taking the same thing in our country and

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Speaker 4: And it was I think, like you we were talking

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Speaker 4: that wild card spot. You know, actually going up against

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Speaker 4: I was shocked at how many Red Wings fans was.

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Speaker 3: There was a ton of.

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Speaker 4: Red jerseys there, and it was weird being a Buckeye

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Speaker 2: All right, let's have the conversation.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like that part.

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Speaker 2: So before there was an NHL team down there, it

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Speaker 2: give them assign them colors. Some better thought probably would

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Speaker 2: have been helpful. I mean, the Columbus Crew are named

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Speaker 2: they look like it's Steelers colors. Of course you love

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Speaker 2: Their original design had a bumblebee on it. I thought

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Speaker 2: It's because they made the Union Army outfits in a

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Speaker 2: That's why they have the cannon and all that.

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Speaker 3: Who says that you can't change it, you just.

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Speaker 2: So far in on a brand.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, No, We've watched and years we've watched the

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Speaker 4: Washington football team go to the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: We watched the Indians go to the Guardian.

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Speaker 2: This was usually that's out of out of public pressure

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Speaker 2: from yes, from other for other reasons. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: have you had the conversation with your girls about the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns because I had. I had that with the boys,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, Dad, what what are what are we?

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Speaker 2: I weren't named after a guy and it's iconic. Now

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Speaker 2: now it's iconic. You wouldn't change it, Like when they

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Speaker 2: But if you explain it to a kid, Oh did

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Speaker 2: that was? Did that guy end up owning the team?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, actually founded another team and down the

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Speaker 2: road in the division. Well are they called the Browns? No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no. He named them sort of after Maslin High School,

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Speaker 2: where he coached first. So they're gonna be the type.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be the Bengals, and they're gonna use Masslin's colors.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I just won't have a conversation, it'll come Hey.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we just we were. We were at the combine

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Speaker 2: all week. Uh. By the way, did you see the

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Speaker 2: billboards give a Is that an unbelievable juxtaposition?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there, so are you famil when's the last

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Speaker 2: time you've been Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: The last time I was at the cowbe.

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Speaker 2: When you participated.

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Speaker 3: Do you know right across the ass a lie, I've

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Speaker 3: been to tantail Gate show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you went to Bloomington or you went oh all right,

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Speaker 2: I went gibe when I drove on Wednesday. I think

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Speaker 3: That's about right. You have a nice car, you could

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Speaker 3: Yes there, it's like the Ohio Bible Belt. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you will see those signs. There will also

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Speaker 2: It's a planet. What do you want me to do.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's there. It's very real and you can't miss it.

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Speaker 2: But before that one star and right next to the

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Speaker 2: can't believe that to be true. There's got to be

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Speaker 3: That build board is so good that I would pull

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Speaker 2: Well, if I was not a time crunch, I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It does not say the sweater best No, No, Jim

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Speaker 2: Tressel as your as you, Lieutenant government. We got to

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Speaker 2: back to you as a player, we finished up the Combine?

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Speaker 3: Mm hm, what was.

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Speaker 2: The lead up to the combine like for you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: What was the Combine experience like for you? And then

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Speaker 4: Okay, So after my last game, we played Norre Dame

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Speaker 4: After that, I went to train a Xos and Pensacola.

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Speaker 3: I was at Senior Bowl. We had finished practice.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, oh was I wrong?

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Speaker 4: When I got to the combine, I was like, I

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Speaker 4: you know, the first day you're there, you check in

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Speaker 3: You like, sleep inside of the rooms, Like it's like

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about inside of a train station?

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Speaker 8: So the original hotel for Prospects was the former train depot.

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Speaker 2: Then they just have like temporary rooms that you guys

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Speaker 2: But it's like two dudes, do you know who they are?

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Speaker 4: I can't remember who I was rooming with. Sometimes you do,

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Speaker 3: Come talk to my guy.

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Speaker 4: You know, they get all your information. That goes on

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Speaker 3: And I'm sick of this. Like so I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out there and have a great you know,

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Speaker 3: So Vonn and Eli was there and they was like

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They ran over to me and was like, bro, you

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Speaker 4: know what you just ran? I said, it was like

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Speaker 4: It was like you ran a four four seven. Unofficially

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Speaker 3: I know it's true. Trust me. You never forget those

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Speaker 4: So I remember just being relieved, like wow, like I

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Speaker 4: really just dropped this four four, And you know, I

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Speaker 4: Like I ran the second one. The second one was

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Speaker 4: You know, I think I hit the numbers that for

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Speaker 4: Now it led to me getting going undrafted. So I'm

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Speaker 4: here to tell you that the combine means nothing. What

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting you ran them that you I'm because

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you run like four, like the.

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Speaker 2: Legendary story is Dion ran four two and then just

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Speaker 4: I would if I would have ran four two, I

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Speaker 3: Y'all come on to see all later, man, I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a I can't imagine the pressure that you

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Speaker 2: they'll tell you like, ninety percent is the tape.

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Speaker 7: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong. It's so nice to

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Speaker 4: but look at the tape, Like the tape's not gonna

445
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Speaker 4: lie to you, Like, just because he ran a four

446
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Speaker 4: to three, you turn the tape on, he might not

447
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 4: play at four to three, So what was the point

448
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 4: of him running the four three? Like it's so a

449
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 4: lot of the To me, I think it's overdone. And

450
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 4: I think that's why you've seen in some of these guys,

451
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Speaker 4: some of these top athletes, like I'm not participating in

452
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Speaker 4: anything because just look at my tape, Like Marvin started

453
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 4: it last year, you had the quarterbacks do it. This

454
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Speaker 4: year is like, I don't need to do anything. Just

455
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Speaker 4: turn the tape long and evaluate me off my tape.

456
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Speaker 2: The worst one of these from a negative that I

457
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Speaker 2: remember in the time that we've been going to the combine,

458
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Speaker 2: I think this is my was my seventh or eighth years.

459
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't remember something like that since I've been doing

460
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: it with us was DK, So we at that time

461
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: the bench was right next to where we set up

462
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: in the convention center, and there was like a mini

463
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Speaker 2: stadium set up for guys to come and do the bench,

464
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Speaker 2: and there would be people who'd watch, like fans would

465
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Speaker 2: watch do the bench. Now it's set up totally different,

466
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 2: but in those days, that's what was set up. So

467
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: he was over there and you saw him bench, and

468
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 2: you went, and then you saw his size and you went,

469
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Speaker 2: and then he ran and you went, good lord like,

470
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Speaker 2: and then you knew he had production at all, miss

471
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Speaker 2: So it was like, what are we doing? But they

472
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: got so their brains were pretzel over the three cone

473
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 2: drill and they had video direction of DK Metcalf doing

474
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Speaker 2: a three cone drill the same rate as like Tom Brady,

475
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 2: and it was like they all got in their heads

476
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Speaker 2: about that. Well, here's the deal. He's big, he's fast,

477
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: he can run in a straight line. There's value for that.

478
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 2: And he had an immediate impact in Seattle. So by

479
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: doing just that, so people talk day sales, they talk,

480
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: and he end up being a second rounder third, but

481
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: he should have been a first round pick. Like you

482
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Speaker 2: saw him. You saw him from production you saw his build,

483
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Speaker 2: you saw his ability to run in a straight line.

484
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: You knew he was fast, you knew he had great hands,

485
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: Like what are we doing here? But they overthought it

486
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: because they were worried about his change of direction. It's

487
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Speaker 2: just so stupid. We see less of it there used

488
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: to be. There's a guy you probably don't even know

489
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: named Mike Mamullah. Tony Manders is another one. But Mike

490
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: Mamulla was a guy who who was a linebacker guy

491
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Speaker 2: at Boston College, I believe, who tested himself into like

492
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Speaker 2: a top ten pick in Philly based on the combine.

493
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Speaker 2: He was a combine warrior. You don't see it as

494
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Speaker 2: much anymore. What the tape say, Well, the tape, I

495
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: don't know. We don't even if anybody like doing tape.

496
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Speaker 8: Mike Mamua and ninety five worked his way up and

497
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Speaker 8: became the seventh pick in the draft.

498
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Speaker 2: Did I nail that by Philly? Was it Boston College too?

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a seat. You're done, go home.

500
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: I'm make itself.

501
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Speaker 3: The combine numbers is cool and all those things.

502
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the tape is where tape to tape?

503
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Speaker 3: The tape.

504
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Speaker 8: By the way, DK metcalf career Wise, four hundred and

505
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Speaker 8: thirty eight catches, sixty three hundred yards, forty eight touchdowns.

506
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Speaker 8: He was the sixty fourth player taking off the board.

507
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Speaker 3: Say that one with how what was his dance?

508
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: Forty eight touchdowns, sixty four hundred total yards.

509
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Speaker 8: Yep, four hundred and thirty eight catches. He in twenty

510
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Speaker 8: nineteen second round pick number sixty four.

511
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Speaker 2: And he's never played with what you would say as

512
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Speaker 2: an elite. I mean, they throw it around with Gito,

513
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 2: but he's never played like in an elite setup.

514
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Speaker 3: He gonna be on the mood is could be, could

515
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: be Green Bay.

516
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: I thought you Jordan, love.

517
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 3: You like I thought he was going to uh Kansas.

518
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: City, good little before we need all that for We

519
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: don't need that.

520
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you stop that talk. I'm just that's my thing.

521
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: Like that gets you thrown off the network.

522
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: You can't have that.

523
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 8: Lord before we go to break, Like we were talking

524
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Speaker 8: about like roommates and everything in the combine, like girod

525
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 8: Cherry to this day is like I screwed up at

526
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Speaker 8: the combine. I made my own set of mistakes ak

527
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Speaker 8: going out to the club maybe during that week. But

528
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Speaker 8: he's like I also had a roommate that snored from

529
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Speaker 8: the moment they fell asleep till when the alarm went off.

530
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Speaker 8: And he's like, I tried changing roommates. I tried, like

531
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Speaker 8: I went to the league, like I was up all

532
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Speaker 8: night like thundering her snoring.

533
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: He should have he should have joined in. You gotta go.

534
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Speaker 3: You gotta go in there and go to sleep first.

535
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Speaker 4: If you know you got allow snoring roommate, That's how

536
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Speaker 4: I would have treated.

537
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

538
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Speaker 4: But the thing about the cas, it's supposed to be chaotic.

539
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 4: I think that's the whole point. You don't get that

540
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Speaker 4: much sleep, and they want to see how you perform

541
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Speaker 4: when you're under stressed. Where you're stressed now you don't

542
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 4: got a lot of sleep, Can you still do what

543
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 4: you're supposed to do?

544
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Speaker 3: And I think that's ultimately a mental test.

545
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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it is. What what I think is the

546
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Speaker 2: number one thing that comes out of it, it's the

547
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Speaker 2: conversations and we'll get to this around the league in

548
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Speaker 2: a second. It's the conversations that take place amongst teams.

549
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Like you found out last week that there was some

550
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Speaker 2: momentum that maybe Matthew Stafford would get traded. But by

551
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Speaker 2: the time you got to Friday. It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

552
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: that ain't Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. That's the best chance.

553
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: The best spot for him is to stay there. I

554
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Speaker 2: am certain that the conversations that led to Deebo Samuel

555
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Speaker 2: being traded to Washington, those started in Indianapolis. Yeah, because

556
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Speaker 2: you're face to face, and that's that goes a long way.

557
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: You can have a real conversation about things.

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Speaker 3: All right, so you want to.

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Speaker 2: We got a ton of notes on ours around next

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Speaker 2: the quick timeout and then we'll hit the around the

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Speaker 2: league a little bit later. All right, You were our

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Speaker 2: with you here on a Monday, a lot of Browns

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Speaker 2: buzz coming out of the combines. Let's just kind of

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Speaker 2: go through some of this reporting. Let's start from our

578
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Speaker 2: great friend Dan Grosiano, ESPN. He wrote, quote, the overwhelming

579
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Speaker 2: belief of the people I spoke to this week is

580
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Speaker 2: that the Browns plan to stay at number two in

581
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Speaker 2: the draft and take one of the top quarterbacks. The

582
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Speaker 2: preference between cam Ward and Shudeur Sanders is unclear, but

583
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Speaker 2: if one goes at number one, I believe they'd be

584
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Speaker 2: okay with taking the other. Nathan and I have been

585
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Speaker 2: talking and you know, we argued with you about it. Yes,

586
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 2: we've been talking about quarterback at two since the end

587
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Speaker 2: of the season. That this is a life raft for

588
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Speaker 2: the franchise. That both of these guys can play, and

589
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Speaker 2: we believe that both of them can play. They're very

590
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: different players, but both of them can play, and you

591
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: can win with both of them. And quite honestly, and

592
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: this is me speaking just to me, it seems pretty

593
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Speaker 2: obvious the penalty of drafting a quarterback that doesn't hit

594
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: isn't what it used to be. It used to be

595
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Speaker 2: something where you were in like a four or five

596
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Speaker 2: year jail drafting a quarterback in the first round. Now

597
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: it's like two years and you're done one.

598
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Speaker 4: Yeah, vas Rosen went first round, but very next year

599
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray went first pick and it was boom.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is nowadays.

601
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't think there's this incredibly It used

602
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: to be like this incredible weight that they would drag

603
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: you down if you missed on a quarterback early. There

604
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: isn't anymore not to suggest. I think both these guys

605
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: are going to be really good players. I think both

606
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: of them could play. But if one of them can,

607
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: it's the one you pick. You can pivot off of

608
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: it pretty quickly.

609
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Speaker 4: I agree, I think, first of all, I don't I

610
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Speaker 4: know that I agree. I tweeted out maybe a couple

611
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: of days ago that I am now one hundred percent

612
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 4: on board with them taking a quarterback at two. I

613
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: am now there. I don't think it. I think cam

614
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: Ward will be gone. I think Tennessee's gonna take cam

615
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 4: Ward and they'll have to take Shador. The reason that

616
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: I feel like cam Ward is gonna go Number one

617
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: is for the simple fact that we just talked about it.

618
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Speaker 4: You know, first of all, Will Levis hasn't been doing

619
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: that great, and I know this would be year three

620
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: coming up for him, but this a new coaching staff.

621
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Speaker 4: This coaching staff and this general manager didn't select him

622
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: so and they had him last year, so they know

623
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Speaker 4: what he is and they're thinking to themselves, can we

624
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 4: win with this guy? And the answer is probably know

625
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: in there and their minds, So they feel like, let's start.

626
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: Because when you're a new coaching staff, like you get

627
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: two to three years and if it ain't looking good

628
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: after about three years, you out of there. So for them,

629
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: they already are down one. If they're picking in this

630
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 4: same position next year and they rolled it back with

631
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Speaker 4: Will like that, that's an issue. So I feel like

632
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: they're gonna take caim War with the first pick, and

633
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: I think the Brown should take your door with the

634
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: second pick. I think he'll be great. You know, we

635
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: talked about when I was on with you. Indeed, we

636
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: talked about how he fits Kevin's system. Now, both quarterbacks

637
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: do do a terrible job of holding on to the

638
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: court the ball for a long period of time. But

639
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: I feel like when should Door's pocket is clean, when

640
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: he knows exactly where he's supposed to go with the ball,

641
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: I think he throws a really good ball. And I

642
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: think and now I believe that Kevin, Tommy and those

643
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: guys on that coaching staff is gonna do a better

644
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: job of coaching him up to get what they want.

645
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: The one thing that I like about him the most

646
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: is the ability to take care of the football. I mean,

647
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: you can't deny the fact that he's thrown a bunch

648
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: of tyson now, but he hasn't thrown that many pigs.

649
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: So that's the one thing Kevin talks about, decision making,

650
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: decision making. Shadoor under pressure has delivered a lot of

651
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: great passes that is telling to me the most. So

652
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: that's why I'm very comfortable with them taking him at two.

653
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the question that will be an interesting

654
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: one is because of Stafford going back to the Rams

655
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: or the Giants now ultra aggressive trying to go to

656
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: one to get their pick of the quarterbacks. They were

657
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: linked to Aaron Rodgers on Friday, and so I think

658
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: Tennessee's decision at one whether it's to stay there and

659
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: just draft them or say, we have so many things,

660
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: this is not a position to put a quarterback in.

661
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Let's wait a year, we're gonna be really bad. It's

662
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Speaker 2: kind of like what we did with Miles. He took

663
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Miles number one, then you waited a year and got

664
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Speaker 2: the quarterback the next year. They could do the same thing,

665
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: except they could trade out of it. They could trade

666
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: to two or three and still get a dual Carter

667
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah or Travis Hunter. So they could end pick up

668
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: assets in the process and still be bad to the

669
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: point where they're at the top of the draft next year.

670
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 2: So their decision at one will be big. Nathan and

671
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: I were speaking this talking this through last week, and

672
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: if you're if you like one of them, and let's

673
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: be honest. Glenn Cook just walked by. Glenn Cook has

674
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: ties to University of Miami, really close ties played there,

675
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: knows he should know exactly what they think, what the

676
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: real truth is on on cam org yep. Kevin Stefanski

677
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: worked under Pat Shermer in Minnesota. He should know the

678
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: real truth of what Pat thinks about Shador. Correct. So

679
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: we are in the unique position of knowing these two

680
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: prospects better than anybody else or at least as good

681
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: as anybody else in the draft. And it's my contention,

682
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: Zee and I agree to this last week. If you

683
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: like one five percent more than the other, then go

684
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: to one and get the guy you want.

685
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, don't screw around.

686
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: I agree with that where you are right now. If

687
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: you if you like Cam Moore than Door, and you

688
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: think he's the best player in his draft, and you

689
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: think he can come in and be the biggest difference maker,

690
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: then then make the trade. I don't think it's gonna

691
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: cost what people think is gonna cost. I think moving

692
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: one spot, that's what I'm saying. I think you probably

693
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: would give up a fifth, maybe.

694
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: Even if it's a third, you got two, That's what

695
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

696
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: Like, I think you could be fine with just that.

697
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be your one this year,

698
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: one next year, be nothing crazy like that. But for

699
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: Tennessee to move down one spot, I think they would

700
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: be fine. We're just taking like a third or fourth

701
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: or fifth or something like that.

702
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, and they could leverage it again to the Giants

703
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: or Raiders for them to come up to two, so

704
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: they got double dip if they wanted to. Uh this

705
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. Uh quote, the Browns will consider

706
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: costs when it comes to the quarterback market. People I've

707
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: talked to expect Daniel Jones to be on their raider

708
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: along with Kirk Cousin if he becomes available. On another

709
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: name to watch here as Carson Wentz. Okay, we've had

710
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: Jeremy on. He's great, really plugged in. The Browns will

711
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: consider cost yeah, no kidding, we will. I mean, we're

712
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: Deshaun is not going to play next year, that's sure choice.

713
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: We don't have a choice. We don't have cap space.

714
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: We're not We're not in the Sam Darnold business. We

715
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: can't hand out one hundred and fifty million dollars contract

716
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: already paying a quarterback that who's not going to play

717
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: because of surgery, because of injury. So to me, that's

718
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: no kidding, that's what it's going to be. It was

719
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 2: always going to be bargain basement shopping.

720
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

721
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: If you go on the veteran standpoint, which brings us

722
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: back to the number two pick in the draft, that's

723
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: where the opportunity is.

724
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, go ahead.

725
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 8: The interesting thing about the whole Carson Wentz thing, yeah,

726
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 8: is back when the Browns. Remember the Browns got leap frogged.

727
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: Yes, sixteen, so La or La traded with Tennessee.

728
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, to get number one. Well suppose, I mean we

729
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 8: didn't want Wentz.

730
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: Supposedly that, so Ab would have been on that. Yeah,

731
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: he was in the front office, right, had he been

732
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: here in sixteen. I think Sashi was that Sashi in sixteen.

733
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: Or was not always Sash because I was here in

734
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: seventeen Asashi was Dell here was.

735
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: That Sashi's first year though seventeen.

736
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Speaker 8: No, I don't think so non working on it.

737
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the kind of the timeline of that, I'm

738
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: pretty sure was what.

739
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he was here from like fifteen to

740
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen something like that, Right.

741
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Doors came into drafts. Doors came into drafting sixteen and

742
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: seventeen sixteen, So he was so that would have been

743
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: his first draft, would have been that draft when they traded

744
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: out of it, so Ab would have been he was

745
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: in that front office.

746
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: Since he was the vice president of player personnel.

747
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 7: Ab.

748
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they Yeah, they liked Goth were less

749
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: crazy about Wentz. The MP. They allowed the Rams to

750
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: jump and go to one and get goth and then

751
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: they traded out to Philly to get Wentz. Now what's

752
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: crazy is in year two, when Wentz is the second

753
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: team All Pro quarterback and finished third in the MVP voting,

754
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: it looked like Philly won at all. Yep with that

755
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: pick and we had to eat a lot of crow.

756
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 8: Let off his career by mopping the floor with us

757
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 8: on opening Day.

758
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean his start to his he would

759
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: he would have been the MVP of the league, guys,

760
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: he would. He only played in thirteen. He went eleven

761
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: and two as a starting quarterback in Philly. In his

762
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: second year when he finished third in the MVP balloting

763
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: and then they won the Super Bowl without him, I

764
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: don't think he ever recovered. Yeah, I mean that's like mentally.

765
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, because you think that you did all

766
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 4: lists to get them in position, and then somebody else

767
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 4: comes in and just kind of takes the glory away. Yeah,

768
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: it wasn't like Carson Wentz. It was Nick Foles. Nick Fole,

769
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: So I understand how why that felt the way they felt.

770
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: The Only thing about this Carson Wentz situation that can

771
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: be intriguing is that last year, if you if you're

772
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: following trends and fads in the NFL. Last year was

773
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: the year that quarterbacks that were drafted high went somewhere

774
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: else and they performed really well under a new coach

775
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 4: of staff. And if you look at Carson Wentz and

776
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: thinks that he could be that story, then I guess

777
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: that's why you would do it.

778
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: But I'm with you. I definitely would go ahead and

779
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: just go ahead and use the quarterback at two and

780
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 3: do both.

781
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you really you're gonna at least need too,

782
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: you might need three new quarterbacks in the room. Yeah,

783
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: so at least two are going to come in here

784
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: and potentially maybe three. This one from Zach Jackson to

785
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: the Athletic. Though no one I spoke to claim to

786
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: have inside information on the Browns plans, there seems to

787
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: be clear separation at this stage between Ward and the

788
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: draft second best quarterback by most accounts, Colorado shud Or Sanders.

789
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: If the Titans use the number one pick on Abdul

790
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: Carter or Travis Hunter, the Browns will select Ward. He's

791
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: the only rookie quarterback who'd have a chance to get

792
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: Cleveland's opening day starter in September. I don't know about

793
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: that last part about how he would be the only

794
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback who would have a chance to be Cleveland's

795
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: opening day starter in September. Don't. I don't think that's true,

796
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: that part of it, But the rest of it, Yeah,

797
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: and who you just who knows? You know, like, who

798
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: knows these guys are gonna get here? And the consensus

799
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: over there was cam Word has the higher ceiling, Shaduer

800
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: is more pro now ready, like he's ran an NFL

801
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: system with Shermer. You're right, they both hold onto it

802
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: too long. Some of that's a byproduct of the systems

803
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: that they played, in the fact that Colorado didn't even

804
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: try to run it and their offensive line was terrible. Yeah,

805
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: I can't believe Dallan didn't play better. I thought he

806
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: would had a better year.

807
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: The crazy thing is a lot of people that leave

808
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: here and go somewhere else. You would think like, oh, yeah,

809
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: that's a perfect situation for him, him, Julian Fleming going

810
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: to Penn State. I was like, oh, that's perfect for him.

811
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: And yeah they did nothing, Yeah, nothing on the Miles situation.

812
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Dan Graziano with this teams have checked in with the

813
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: Browns about Ed Rusher, Miles Garrett are still being told

814
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 2: no conversation to be had. The best solution for clearly

815
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: remains working something out to make Garrett happy and keeping

816
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: him in the fold, but he has so far been

817
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: adamant that's not possible. If the Browns do ever get

818
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: serious about training Garrett, I expect Buffalo and Philly to

819
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: be two of the most aggressive pursuers. Fowler had this

820
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: to say after my talks here in India, I believe

821
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: Cleveland is very dug in and willing to wag him

822
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: out and show resolved. It's not just a no to

823
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: any perspective trades, but an emphatic one. It's just we

824
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: went through this, like when you do what we've done

825
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: with those contracts and transition from guaranteed money and then

826
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: kicked it down the road. You do that to get

827
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: cap relief in the intermediate in the media. But then

828
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: it also those are not typically the type of people

829
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 2: you trade, so it's very difficult to trade those folks.

830
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't deny what Miles is and

831
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: production wise on the defensive side of the ball, Like

832
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: the guy is a Hall of Famer, so like nobody

833
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: wants to get rid of a Hall of Famer. He's

834
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: like to guarantee on defense, you guarantee know that he's

835
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 4: going to show up and show out.

836
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: You don't want to get rid of that.

837
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: And I understand why the Browns are in the position

838
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: that they're in and they don't want to trade.

839
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: Finally, on Joel Batonia, the Browns are out to Missy

840
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: about Joel Batonio's return for a twelve season. Though he

841
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: hasn't made a firm determination yet, the team is loosely

842
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: planning for him to return and isn't aggressively combing the

843
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: guard market at this time. So I would say I

844
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: think Hoff said this, the longer that that is, the

845
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: more likelihood you come back for Joel, So who knows,

846
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: that's kind.

847
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 4: Of maybe he's maybe he's waiting to seat off season

848
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 4: plans and see what the team look like, which that's fair.

849
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: I would understand that.

850
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he certainly earned that right. A very busy week

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Speaker 2: former teams of San Francisco forty nine er is going

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Speaker 2: to trade wide receiver Deebo Samuel to the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 2: in exchange for a fifth round pick for Adam Schefter.

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Speaker 2: Commanders will pay Samuel's full seventeen point five to five

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Speaker 2: million for the twenty twenty five season. Jonathan Allen was

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Speaker 2: part of this trade discussion, but ultimately he was not included.

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Speaker 2: So I try. I was trying to explain this to

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Speaker 2: my boys because they said, well, Dad, if all it

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Speaker 2: took was a fifth round pick to get Deebo Samuel,

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00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: why wouldn't we do that? And I said, well, buddy,

873
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Speaker 2: not only do you have to take on his seventeen

874
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: point five to five salary in order to make him happy,

875
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: you got to give him a new contract.

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Speaker 7: YEP.

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00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: So That's why it's a fifth round pick. And I

878
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: think sometimes people see stuff like this they just go, gosh,

879
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: just a fifth for Deebo. Yeah, but it's complicated.

880
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: The number one thing when I first seen is the

881
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: thing that a lot of people didn't think about it

882
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: is this. This is just a trade between France. Adam

883
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: Peters is the commander's GM. Guess where Adam Peters was.

884
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 4: You know how I know Adam Peters was with the

885
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: forty nine ers because me and Adam Peters had a

886
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: ton of conversations where we got I got hired and

887
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: fired at least six times in one season with San

888
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: Franciscscuse me and Adam Peters is like this when it

889
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: comes out, But yes, Adam Peters is the GM for

890
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 4: the general man or for the commanders. Him and John

891
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: Lynch been friends of all these years. He's like, come on,

892
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 4: send them over here. I know what he's good, I

893
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: know what he can do. Send them to us.

894
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: We can use him. We give you a fifth round pick.

895
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: And John Lynch was like, you know what, maybe not

896
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: for anybody else, I wouldn't, but because we're boys and

897
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: we worked so long together, I give them to you

898
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 4: for a fifth round pick, and I think that's how

899
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 4: the deal came.

900
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: And aren't the Commanders in the same spot with Allen

901
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: where he wants a new deal. Yes, so this was

902
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: kind of like, will take your problem, You take ours

903
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: pretty much your talented problem, my talented problem. Now you

904
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: can take that on him.

905
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: Will Even though even though Deebo looked shot last year,

906
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: he didn't look the same as he usually did. That

907
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: is a slippery slow He looked like he was not

908
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: as explosive as he was.

909
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: But you know, do you think that do you think

910
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: there's a chance that wid there was a there was.

911
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: This used to happen at quarterback a lot. It happens

912
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: at running back too. I guess it's everything. It does

913
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: feel like like you kind of fall off a cliff.

914
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: Like if you think about like DeAndre Hopkins and that

915
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: went quick. He was like thirty two billion bucks a year,

916
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: best receiver in football, and de Deebo felt pretty good.

917
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: Even Tyreek last year was not what we're used to

918
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: seeing out of him.

919
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 4: He after coming off and one of his most productive years. Actually,

920
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 4: it was kind of crazy. I think for Deebo, I

921
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: think what's happened is that what he feared would happen.

922
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 4: You know, they kept making him do the running back stuff,

923
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: and he's like, I don't really want to do that

924
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: because it's gonna mess up my body and you take

925
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: all those hits and now you're getting injured in all

926
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 4: of those things and you lose some explosiveness. And that's

927
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: what it kind of looked like to me. So, you know,

928
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: he looked like he got kind of chunkier as well

929
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: last year because he was playing running back.

930
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: See them see goes down.

931
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: It's like, well, we gotta have somebody, and you're a

932
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: great playmaker for us.

933
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: You've already made these plays.

934
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 4: So he probably bulked up a little bit to try

935
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: to take on those carries, and I think ultimately it

936
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: hurt him in his season last year. So hopefully he

937
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: slims back down and with the commanders, they say, you

938
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: know what, we're gonna put the ball in your hands,

939
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: through you like some jail brake screens and let you

940
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: do your thing like that. I never thought he was

941
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 4: that great of a route runner, but this better be

942
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 4: the time he better learn on becoming a better route

943
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: runner for the commanders.

944
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: This is here's what's so cool.

945
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: This is what you can do when you hit the

946
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: quarterback though, because now you have a quarterback under relatively

947
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: low pay. Yeah, and now you can for five year.

948
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: You can spend now, so this is Washington going. Oh man,

949
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: we literally hit the NFL lottery with Jayden Daniels. We've

950
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: got some other nice pieces. McLaurin defense, got nice pieces.

951
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: We were ahead of schedule, played in the NFC Championship game.

952
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: Now let's lean into this. Couple with that, with the

953
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: fact that you have new ownership who's pretty jacked up

954
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: to be there. Yep, they're ahead of schedule too. They've

955
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: hinted it doing new uniforms and all of these things,

956
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: or trying to get a stadium built. All of it

957
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: kind of coming together for them. But none of it

958
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: happens without Jayden Daniels being a stuff.

959
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: I agree.

960
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, that franchise was down for a long time,

961
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: so it was you're right, you get you hit on

962
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: the quarterback because last year going into the season, nobody

963
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: thought the Commanders would be anything good. Like even when

964
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: you played the brown schedule game, you looked at the Commanders, Oh,

965
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: that's a that's guaranteed the w you know, like that's

966
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: how a lot of people felt and credit to them.

967
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: Jade and Daniels came in there, and he looked the

968
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: way he looked and the things he was able to do.

969
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: I tell you what. That's why it's important.

970
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 4: That you get the quarterback that messes with the offensive

971
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: coordinator or the quarterback coach, because it's something it just

972
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: magic happens when you get when a quarterback gets with

973
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: the play caller that they like and they trust and

974
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 4: they can run it to their like you get things

975
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: like Joe Flacco and Kevin Stefanski, like those type of things,

976
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: like it's just magic that happens. And Jade and Daniels,

977
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: you know, when he got with his oc you know

978
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: that that's what it looked like. He ran it exactly

979
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: the way he wanted to do. He understood what Jade

980
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: and Daniel Strimps was and he didn't try to hold

981
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: him back. You know, like so many times in the

982
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 4: league you try to coach players out of it. You know,

983
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: Andy Reid with Patty Mahomes, he embraced who he was.

984
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 4: You know, Brian day Ball with Josh Allen, he didn't

985
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: try to he didn't try to change them. You know

986
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 4: what Brian Dave Ball did. He took his whole place sheet,

987
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: threw it in there, said we're gonna make office design

988
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: for you, and Josh Allen turned into what Josh Allen

989
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: turned into.

990
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: That's exactly what's got to happen.

991
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: If whether you whatever, whoever quarterback you take, you better

992
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: be able to play.

993
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: To his strips.

994
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting when I heard you when you mentioned

995
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: how Washington was such a bad organization for the most

996
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: of your life. Yeah, they were the model organization when I.

997
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: Was a kid, and then they go to what they won.

998
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: Three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks, and they were

999
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: consistently good that you could not get a ticket to

1000
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: ol RFK Stateium, you know DC.

1001
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 4: The last time I've seen them being good is RG

1002
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: three's first season.

1003
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that is that was baby stuff alongside.

1004
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 3: That was the only time I was like the risk

1005
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: the resk is good.

1006
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: This one's funny. All right, I'll play the role of well,

1007
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: we won't roll playing this one all right. Here it

1008
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: is the Jets are moving on from DeVante Adams. They'll

1009
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: take trade calls on him. If they can't reach a deal,

1010
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: they're expected to release him. I would love to be

1011
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: an organization that would call them and say, really, really,

1012
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna we're gonna pay, We're gonna give you something. Well,

1013
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: you gotta, I mean what he's gonna be released?

1014
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: This is.

1015
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: There's gonna be no trade. It would be a team

1016
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 4: that he has no interest of going to. Of course,

1017
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: that would be the team would make the trade.

1018
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: They're releasing him. There is no trade.

1019
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: I agree.

1020
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: If if I was on the other end, I'll be like, well,

1021
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 4: I'm not going to trade you go release him and

1022
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: then I'll just show him the deal. But if it's

1023
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: a team that he doesn't have any interest in and

1024
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 4: that's the only way I can get him, then I

1025
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: make the trade.

1026
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna take a six round pick.

1027
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on. The Eagles are reported releasing

1028
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: Darius Slay, so that's happening as well.

1029
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: I thought he was retiring.

1030
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: So this happened today. This was this is interesting. The

1031
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: Bengals have release guard Alex Kappa.

1032
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: What do they do?

1033
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: Man?

1034
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: You know what they're doing. They're getting in as much

1035
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: cap space as they can so that they can Dude,

1036
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: I've been as skeptical as everybody, but they really are

1037
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: gonna try to keep they're gonna make Jamar the highest

1038
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: paid position player in the NFL. They're gonna keep try

1039
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: to keep T Higgins, and they're gonna try to keep

1040
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. So that's what it's about. I just I

1041
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: don't understand it.

1042
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen.

1043
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: I agree, because the part that gets me is T

1044
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: Higgins is gonna get there and they're gonna say, T

1045
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 4: We're gonna offer you twenty five million a year, and

1046
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: Green Bay say, will get you thirty five Yeah, and

1047
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: they gonna be like, well, we can't match that.

1048
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: And what do you think he's gonna say?

1049
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: So? The teams with cap Space Raiders have a bunch,

1050
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: Patriots have a bunch. I mean the Patriots need him.

1051
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: They probably overpay. Yeah.

1052
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: So, and it's not like Drake may is a slouch. Yeah,

1053
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: he's not Joe Burrow. But I mean, you beat the

1054
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: number one guy.

1055
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the g man just brought it up.

1056
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 8: There are reports now the Bengals have also discussed trading

1057
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 8: defensive lineman Sam Hubbard. If they can't move him, he's

1058
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 8: likely to be released them nine and a half million.

1059
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: So they are gonna try. Now, I don't do it.

1060
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: This way. You have no.

1061
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: Say you just tried that this year.

1062
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: Trying to pay all these guys. You just can't.

1063
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: Now, my boy, Sam is a cap casual. They do

1064
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: the buck eyes.

1065
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Man, poor Buckeyes can't catch a break. The Cowboys are

1066
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 2: gonna franchise tag Osa. I'm not gonna try that. Go ahead,

1067
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: well that dig digg right, thank you? Of course he

1068
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: had it. Would you if you saw when you saw that,

1069
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: would you read that straight Ron Burgundy style?

1070
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: No? Oh, diggi zula, that's just give you a Doug Deacon, right?

1071
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: You at on that?

1072
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1073
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh what is that?

1074
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

1075
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: The New York Giants have been linked to Aaron Rodgers,

1076
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, Kirk Cousins, Russell Wilson, Sammy Bad, Joe Montana,

1077
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: Dan Marino, everybody else who ever's played quarterback in the

1078
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: league as options at quarterback. Several sources feel the Giants

1079
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: are interested in trading for number one over.

1080
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1081
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: I think that that's a lot.

1082
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 7: I'm impressive.

1083
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm so interested in the Giants, the Raiders, all these

1084
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: teams that the Jets, all these teams that need a

1085
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 4: quarterback once the draft happens. If the draft goes the

1086
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: way we think with Cam and Schador going one and.

1087
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: Two, do they reach for the one and take one

1088
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: in the first or do.

1089
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: They You're saying like, if if you're the Raiders sitting

1090
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: at six, you reach for who ended up having a

1091
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: good combine. Who's like the third quarterback coming out of this?

1092
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: Isn't it Jackson dark Wells dark Velocity?

1093
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: Did you see him?

1094
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 2: They did the velocity test and he threw it fifty

1095
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: five miles an hour?

1096
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: What about to do from Louisville.

1097
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of our scout guys like him,

1098
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 2: a lot.

1099
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: Just fifty that's so.

1100
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's twenty, he'll be twenty six.

1101
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1102
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 8: The biggest thing is by the time his rookie contracts up,

1103
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 8: he'd be thirty.

1104
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1105
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: Hey whatever, Yeah you know what you crossed that cross that?

1106
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1107
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: If he plays four great years?

1108
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, our guy Will Howard struggled.

1109
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1110
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: Uh, you and I were on a text chain this weekend,

1111
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: and I think we have it. I think, I mean,

1112
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: I go ahead.

1113
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: The funny thing is I said, I sent you that text,

1114
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 4: and I said what I said and then boom, Shadora

1115
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: Sanders tweets out.

1116
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 3: Will Howard won a national championship.

1117
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: He throwing the guys that he never threw to before,

1118
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: cut some slack, and I said the exact same thing, like,

1119
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: first of all.

1120
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't he don't know these guys.

1121
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: He like, it's a you gotta you know how long

1122
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and receivers got to throw to each other for

1123
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: them to understand the timing and the chemistry, Like you're

1124
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: asking him to do that now right there that day,

1125
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: and that's just not gonna happen. But the thing that

1126
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: was funny is he kept overthrowing a lot of passes,

1127
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, if you're gonna air,

1128
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 4: that's probably the way you want to error because a

1129
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: lot of people questioning could you throw a deep ball?

1130
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: And if you overthrowing these speedy receivers, at least you

1131
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 4: know that he got the arm strength.

1132
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: Here's the text exchange yesterday two thirty. You texted, H,

1133
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't put a lot of stock in it because

1134
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: he's thrown the guys he's never thrown to before. He

1135
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: has to be money on Pro day though, that's a fact.

1136
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: That's fact. Yeah, I said, looked over cooked to me,

1137
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: my man, like he was trying to throw it hard

1138
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: with velocity to shut up critics. Yeah, and I think

1139
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: that's what he was doing. I think he was I

1140
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: think he was trying to he's hurt. Everybody say he's

1141
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: really good between the numbers, he's really good intermediate, but

1142
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: can he drive the ball, And so I think he

1143
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: was overcooked. I think he was trying to and I

1144
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: think show how hard and how far he could throw.

1145
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: And whenever pro day comes, he's gonna be throwing to Mecca.

1146
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Jeremiah Smith's gonna be out there and

1147
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: he's not gonna drop a ball. He's gonna be right

1148
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 4: in sync. It's gonna be perfect, and he's gonna be like,

1149
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: all right, this guy can throw the ball on time

1150
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: with guys that he has chemistry with, and then you

1151
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 4: will understand it's like Anthony Richardson. You think Anthony Richardson

1152
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: threw that ball and hit that still in by accident.

1153
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 4: He did that on purpose, Like that's it's all a

1154
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 4: marketing strategy to show like, all right, this is what

1155
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 4: they think of you. They don't think your arm are strong,

1156
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: So go out there and overthrow these wide receivers, especially

1157
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 4: on the deep ball.

1158
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee, Oregon, Texas Notre Dame and was the best quarterback

1159
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: on the field in all four of those. Yeah, and

1160
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 2: was sublime. Daneburglar had an incredible stat If you take

1161
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: screen pass attempts out of it, Will Howard led college

1162
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: football and completion percentage. You can take screen passes out

1163
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: of it. Let it overall seventy four and he was

1164
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 2: still in the top ten. But if you take screen

1165
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: passes out of it, Will Howard had the highest completion

1166
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: percentage in college football.

1167
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 4: Wow, Schador came back and got him. Remember we was

1168
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 4: talking about it during the season. He was him and

1169
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel I think was like zero point one off

1170
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 4: and wow.

1171
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: Shit.

1172
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 4: But that it's funny because if you watch cam Ward

1173
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: and Shador's little combine thing or whatever that video stuff is,

1174
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: they got going with each other.

1175
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: They little podcast. That's what Cam said.

1176
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 4: He was like, you know, my percentage would be high

1177
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: too if I just threw check downs and screens all

1178
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: the time. So it's nice to see the trash talk

1179
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: of between those two.

1180
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: Listened to eight fifty ESPN Cleveland w kN R, a

1181
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 2: good Karma brand station. One other thing around the league

1182
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: that I want to hit on here, and that is

1183
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: retirement news. Jimmy Johnson is turning his microphone in. He

1184
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: is stepping away from Fox. He's been with Fox the

1185
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: whole time, right since they've had the NFL.

1186
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 3: Thirty I believe thirty one years.

1187
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy. I'm so old. I remember when they

1188
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: got it because it was CBS and NBC when I

1189
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: was a kid. It's crazy and they stole it. Yeah,

1190
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: like careers, he's I mean, I think he's most notable.

1191
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: I think he's most notable obviously for the fact that no,

1192
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: it's the cowboysoys. The Cowboys are in doldrums through the eighties.

1193
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones bought the team for one hundred and fifty

1194
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: million then now were ten billion, a pretty good return

1195
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: on investment there. And he hired Jimmy Johnson, who was

1196
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: his college teammate at Arkansas, and he gave him the

1197
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: keys to the Kingdom. And in those days, teams did

1198
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: not have these incredibly large scouting departments that they have now,

1199
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Johnson used his knowledge in the college game

1200
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: to draft players that were ready to go. He had

1201
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: relationships with him. He was at Oklahoma State when they

1202
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: were trying to recruit Troy Aikman there because Troy Yekman

1203
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: ended up at Oklahoma, so he was familiar with Troy.

1204
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: He was familiar with Michael Ierver, and he was familiar

1205
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: with Emitt Smith. He was familiar with so many Russell

1206
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: Maryland at Miami, all of those guys, and then of

1207
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: course the herschel Walker trade. Jimmy oversaw that, and that

1208
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: led to basically the Cowboys three Super Bowls, and Jerry

1209
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: hasn't been close since.

1210
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess when you put it like, you know,

1211
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: I still liked him at the U.

1212
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: He's cool with the you. Yeah, he won a national

1213
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: title with the You. But Howard Schnellenberger won one at

1214
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: the UH. Dennis Ericson won one at.

1215
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: The It wasn't the same when he left. Didn't they

1216
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 3: take a dip when he left?

1217
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 2: No, Dennis Erickson won one two years later.

1218
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: Dang, never mind Cowboys.

1219
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: It is yeah, Cowboys, Yeah, it's yeah. It was a

1220
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: hell of a yeah. His Cowboys thing was nuts. But

1221
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: I think people forget that he went and coached the

1222
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins at the end of Marinos run.

1223
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 4: I don't know people remember that. I didn't even know that. Yeah,

1224
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: that must be that must be something nobody.

1225
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: Really talk about.

1226
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 2: They don't talk about it much.

1227
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: Was it not a great year?

1228
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 7: I did.

1229
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: A couple of years they won, but he was also

1230
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: part of like the end of Marino, and so there

1231
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: was that part of it. And Marino's last game. I

1232
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: want to say they played Jacksonville and got bombed in

1233
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs like sixty. I don't think I'm wrong on this.

1234
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: I think it's like sixty to twenty or something.

1235
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 8: Ninety six through ninety nine he was the vice chairman,

1236
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 8: president CEO, GM head coach and had a player personnel

1237
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 8: from the Dolphins.

1238
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 3: Man.

1239
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: Okay, geez, I'm on a heater today. Kids. Nineteen ninety nine,

1240
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 2: Dan Reno's last game in the in the National Football League.

1241
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: He lost the Jacksonville Jaguars in the Divisional round sixty

1242
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: two to seven. Roof.

1243
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: That was personal, man, jeez.

1244
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: That was Mark Burnellen, those boys.

1245
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 8: So yeah, his head coaching at Miami eight and eight,

1246
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 8: nine and seven, ten and six, nine and seven.

1247
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always won, but they were hoping that he

1248
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: would get him over the edge with Marino one one

1249
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: last run.

1250
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he took him three times in four years to

1251
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1252
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, lost in the first like the divisional game or

1253
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 8: the wild Cards every year.

1254
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: Sixty two to seven, Dan's last game. All right, Glenn

1255
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: Cook sat down with Zee. We will have that conversation

1256
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,160
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1264
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: manager Glenn Cook.

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00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 6: You talked about the draft meetings. I think everybody's kind

1266
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 6: of fascinated by this. We always hear, oh be geinnerbody

1267
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 6: in the building. We lock ourselves away for two weeks

1268
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 6: and then we kind of get our initial board together.

1269
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 7: What's it actually like in those meetings? Is it?

1270
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 6: Hey, somebody throws a player out there and then everybody

1271
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 6: talks about kind of what does just give us a

1272
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 6: little sample of what it would be like to be

1273
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 6: in that room.

1274
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 9: It's more organized, you know, like we have a oh,

1275
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 9: I know that there's no doubt and there's a process systematically.

1276
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's look like our area scouts, you know,

1277
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 9: headed up by like Max, our college director, do a

1278
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 9: really good job of scouring the country and we put

1279
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 9: a lot of work on them to get a sense

1280
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 9: of what the classes look like by position regionally, and

1281
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 9: they're doing a lot of digging in terms of trying

1282
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 9: to understand who the people are that we could be

1283
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 9: bringing in as well as some of the components to

1284
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 9: them as a player. So that's their chance to sort

1285
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 9: of you know, sit at the table, standing on the table,

1286
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 9: you know, push things underneath the table, do whatever they

1287
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 9: got to do to help us better understand who we're

1288
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 9: could potentially be bringing into the building. And it starts

1289
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 9: from there, you know. So it's just really a grind.

1290
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say it's complicated in terms of what we're

1291
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 9: talking about. We're talking about, you know, who they are

1292
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 9: as people, whether the strengths and weaknesses in terms of

1293
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 9: on the field off the field, what are some resources

1294
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 9: we could potentially provide as an organization or as a

1295
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 9: as a you know operation to help them be the

1296
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 9: best version of themselves and help put this team where

1297
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 9: we wanted to be and really we uh, you know,

1298
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 9: take in all that information and you know, sift through

1299
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 9: it and really build out what the next you know,

1300
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 9: two months look like in terms of follow up and

1301
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 9: now asis and ultimately like driving to to a key

1302
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 9: decision or decisions.

1303
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: Let's say player X is it's his in the process

1304
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 6: the natural flow of that, it is now time to

1305
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 6: talk about player X. Do you with that in those

1306
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 6: two those two weeks those draft meetings is the goal

1307
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 6: to get a consent, Like at the end of the

1308
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 6: player xCE session, be like, this is our position on

1309
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 6: this player and this is where we're slotting him until

1310
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 6: we get more information.

1311
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 9: I would say, I mean it's happening in the first

1312
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 9: week of February, so you're definitely not taking a hard position. Yes,

1313
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 9: there's some players, you know. You you look at Miles

1314
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 9: and in a February meeting and you're like, this dude's

1315
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 9: pretty good, you know, So you you feel pretty good

1316
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 9: about that analysis. But sometimes it really is working through

1317
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 9: the full process, not only to understand what their physical

1318
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 9: capabilities and ceilings are, but really again, how they how

1319
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 9: they understand and take in the game, how do they

1320
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 9: learn some of the personal dynamics and family history to

1321
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 9: sort of you're not only drafting them, you're drafting a

1322
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 9: person who support potentially has so they have Yeah, you

1323
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 9: know family members, what maybe conditions, and you may have

1324
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 9: to plan to build resources around that. So it's it's

1325
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 9: really like you want to know as much as you

1326
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 9: can so you're not surprised, right, and then also you

1327
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 9: have enough at your disposal if you do need to

1328
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 9: pivot or if you do need to kind of work

1329
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 9: through a couple of things, you know enough about player

1330
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 9: X in order to do that in a good way.

1331
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 7: How many players are at the combine, for.

1332
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 5: Example three I think it's three in twenty nine.

1333
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 7: They're enter in twenty nine.

1334
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 6: So people, I think some people think that there's a

1335
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 6: board where all three hundred and twenty nine by this point.

1336
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 6: What percentage of that three twenty nine is on the

1337
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 6: Browns board.

1338
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: I'll give you a loose I mean lose lose eighty.

1339
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 6: Okay, eighty, and then from here typically you'll come here

1340
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 6: and that'll get whittled down just a little bit more.

1341
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, i'd say that, so you have probably like the

1342
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 9: group's board is probably different than Andrew's board. I'm sure

1343
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 9: in his mind, he's got probably less than even past

1344
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 9: this point, maybe less than fifty percent that he's really.

1345
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 5: Honed in on.

1346
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 9: But that's you know, of course, I think all GM

1347
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 9: I've been around, sure kind of work that way where

1348
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 9: to me, there's always a separate.

1349
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 7: And it's always going down.

1350
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 9: There's always like a separate mental draft board that sure exists.

1351
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 9: But honestly, you're really working through Sometimes you're working through

1352
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 9: more about like hey, this this player may not may

1353
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 9: not be the best fit as opposed to this is

1354
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 9: the guy, you know, And so by a process of elimination,

1355
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 9: you kind of work yourself and whittle yourself down to, hey,

1356
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 9: these are the guys we really feel great about bringing

1357
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 9: into the building people players.

1358
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 5: And and the nine.

1359
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 9: So I think it's it's sometimes it's more the inverse

1360
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 9: of what manye people think people may think, where it's like,

1361
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 9: all right, we want these fifteen guys.

1362
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of like you know, process of.

1363
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 7: Elimination understanding where they'll be available. Yeah, yeah, I want that.

1364
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 7: I mean, there's twenty guys in the draft.

1365
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah you know there's one of them. Yeah, There's so

1366
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 5: many things that go into it.

1367
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 6: So so you get that you're starting to whittle this down.

1368
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 6: You come here, what is the most important information gathering

1369
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 6: that you do while you're here in Indianapolis to further

1370
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 6: kind of hone that board.

1371
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 9: I mean, i'd say one, it's really important to take

1372
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 9: advantage of every touch point.

1373
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 5: If you think about it.

1374
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 9: We get twenty minutes with them in a room in

1375
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,479
Speaker 9: a formal meeting, and then they take the whole group

1376
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 9: to the informals, which you can spend probably twice, you know,

1377
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 9: two x that amount of time. So essentially you may

1378
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 9: get an hour an hour as an organization, wid said

1379
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 9: player here, it's really just maximizing that time. So that's

1380
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 9: that's where the draft meetings and all the work that's

1381
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 9: done and the fall comes into play, because now you

1382
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 9: can kind of pinpoint and just distill, like, hey, we

1383
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 9: need to really hit on these three things. And for

1384
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 9: some players it's learning. It could be how they learn,

1385
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 9: it could be there the volume of information they could take.

1386
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 9: You could be sort of just trying to get a

1387
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 9: better picture of something that may have happened in terms

1388
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 9: of the career trajectory or the roadmap to how they

1389
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 9: got to where they are, just for us to better

1390
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 9: understand all right. You know, for example, maybe you didn't

1391
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 9: play your first year, you played a little bit your

1392
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 9: second year. You know, you really took off your third year.

1393
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 9: Kind of talk us through what caused that, What did

1394
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 9: something happen in your first season, or was there a

1395
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 9: a pitch, any moment for you that really helped you

1396
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 9: take off as a junior or as a red shirt

1397
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 9: junior or a senior. So it's really just trying to

1398
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,479
Speaker 9: piece the puzzle together. And it doesn't all happen here,

1399
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 9: but you know, you'd be remiss not to take advantage

1400
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 9: of the time.

1401
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 5: And so it's really that's the one.

1402
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 9: Piece where that's like it's the first opportunity to get

1403
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 9: it kind of from the source themselves. And the second

1404
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 9: thing is, you know, you think about the tons of

1405
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 9: people who migrate to Indianapolis during this time. There's a

1406
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 9: lot of things happening, a lot of people around that

1407
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 9: you can converse with and just pick up little nuggets

1408
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 9: and and sort of kind of pull it together. And

1409
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 9: then we come back and sort of download it all

1410
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 9: into one place and you get a better picture. It's

1411
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 9: not a perfect picture, but you get a better picture

1412
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 9: of maybe what's going on.

1413
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 7: All right, so I have a couple of questions.

1414
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 6: Number one, so do you guys come here, do you

1415
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 6: have like a dossier on the players, because in an

1416
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 6: informal situation, do you know who on the staff is

1417
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 6: going to get to talk to which players? It kind

1418
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 6: of because it's informal, it could be anybody.

1419
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, So we'll have a meeting with the coaches and

1420
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 9: kind of walk them through, like, hey, there, these are

1421
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 9: maybe the forty to fifty guys that we have specific

1422
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 9: things that you we want you to hit on, and

1423
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 9: you give them that you know, you're going to talk

1424
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 9: to the said individual yep on Wednesday when they get

1425
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 9: in or Thursday night when they get in. So like

1426
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 9: let's let's uh hit on this, hit on this, and

1427
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 9: then we'll document it all as as in our internal database.

1428
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 9: And then there's just some hey, just have a conversation

1429
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 9: with you know, like you have the time, you maybe

1430
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 9: can get twenty or thirty minutes you kind of do

1431
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 9: what you need to do as a position coach or

1432
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 9: you know, someone on the personnel staff and just spend time.

1433
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 9: And also I think some of the best opportunities are

1434
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 9: walking on the street. You know, I was walking on

1435
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 9: the street with one kid. He was one young man.

1436
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 9: He was going to get lunch with with his representation,

1437
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 9: and it was just like how you doing, you know,

1438
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 9: like what's going on?

1439
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 5: What are you most excited about?

1440
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, you seek a few questions, build a yeah, and

1441
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 9: it's it's just stacking all that information over time and

1442
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 9: hopefully you've built a nice reservoir, reservoir of information to

1443
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 9: understand again who who this person.

1444
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 6: Is part of it's also want to saying what's going on,

1445
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 6: what people are thinking. You mentioned those informal conversations.

1446
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 7: So in my mind.

1447
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 6: There's like like the Cleveland Browns, like rumor board, right,

1448
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 6: everything that everybody kind of heard while they were out

1449
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: in the street, and you bring together find out if

1450
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 6: there are some common themes, right, Yeah.

1451
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 9: I think we I mean we bring back the intelligence

1452
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 9: and we we tried a piece.

1453
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 7: And that's probably a fun part of it.

1454
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 5: It is it is it like there's a lot of noise.

1455
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 7: There's a lot of no course, everybody knows that everybody's

1456
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 7: doing it.

1457
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 9: There's probably a way less signal than people think. But yeah,

1458
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 9: you can pick up a few things here and there,

1459
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 9: and honestly, if you just pick up one or two Uh,

1460
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 9: that's that's more than nothing.

1461
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think our group.

1462
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 9: And Andrews very very much on top of us about

1463
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 9: making sure, you know, you listen twice as much as

1464
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 9: you talk, and you.

1465
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 5: Know, you pick up on what you can pick up

1466
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 5: on for sure, and.

1467
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 7: You definitely can pick up on things.

1468
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 6: There's some sometimes some very poorly kept secrets in Indiana.

1469
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 6: For me, the big one was the year we came

1470
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 6: here when Daniel Jones in the draft like he was

1471
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 6: going to be a giant. Yeah, and that was known

1472
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 6: in February and the draft had unfolded. It's like he was,

1473
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 6: you know, picked for where they had to pick, but

1474
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones.

1475
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 7: Sometimes it was a giant. You get some of that stuff,

1476
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 7: all right.

1477
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 6: Speaking of quarterbacks, picking second an opportunity obviously, we know

1478
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 6: it's the most important position in all professional sports, certainly

1479
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 6: in the in the sport that that you are an

1480
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 6: assistant general manager in. You know, how do you kind

1481
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 6: of what's your just your philosophy on evaluating quarterbacks, what

1482
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 6: are the things that are the most important to you

1483
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 6: to Glenn Cook? And how do you go about your

1484
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 6: film study of quarterbacks? For all the amateurs out there,

1485
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 6: because we have a lot of people, I don't know

1486
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 6: if you knows, they're not on social media, the very

1487
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 6: strong opinions on these quarterbacks that I'm not sure they've

1488
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 6: necessarily watched them, but their opinions are very strong. So

1489
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 6: what tips would you give them on how to watch quarterbacks?

1490
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 6: And what is it that you're looking for?

1491
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I mean I'm not first, I'm not mad

1492
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 9: at the fans. I think every team. I grew up,

1493
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 9: you know, rooting for a specific team in the North

1494
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 9: called the Packers and saw some pretty good pack quarterback play,

1495
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 9: and it's you know, it gives you there's just this

1496
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 9: hope that you have.

1497
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 7: How far do you go back with the Packer quarterbacks?

1498
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 9: I'd say probably ninety five? Yeah, no, no, it was definitely.

1499
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 6: Not No Magic Man, No, okay, so it's his sixty

1500
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 6: first birthday.

1501
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 7: I just came across that on social media. Don Magic

1502
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 7: how skiing?

1503
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 6: All right?

1504
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 5: Being a fan prior.

1505
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 7: By the way, nice run for you FARVT, Aaron Rodgers.

1506
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 5: It was nice run.

1507
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 9: But uh, I think it leads into probably one of

1508
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 9: the things that to me is something you just have

1509
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 9: to take note of. And it's just I always remember

1510
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 9: as a kid when Brett got the ball, you know,

1511
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 9: in the fourth quarter or in a pivotal moment.

1512
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 7: Felt good.

1513
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 9: It was hope, you know what I mean, you knew

1514
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 9: it felt good, you had a chance. This is gonna

1515
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 9: be a good thing. Yeah, we got we got a

1516
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 9: shot to probably pull this one out. So I think

1517
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 9: that's that's what the position is all about. Like it's

1518
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 9: a really important position, you know, I think it's the

1519
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 9: most important position far beyond just because it's so complicated,

1520
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 9: but because of that dynamic and that I think the

1521
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 9: control it has over so many other things when it

1522
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 9: comes to your team, your organization, your city honestly, like

1523
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 9: bleeding into the entire state and country with your fans,

1524
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 9: and so when you know you have a guy you know, pulling,

1525
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 9: pulling the strings in key situations and you just feel

1526
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 9: good about them making plays and putting your your team,

1527
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 9: your offense in.

1528
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 5: Position to make plays.

1529
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 9: That goes way beyond what people think and even to

1530
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 9: the other side of the ball, right like when your

1531
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 9: defense knows if we get off the field here, you know,

1532
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 9: like we get our guy the ball back, you know,

1533
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 9: we got it. This is this might be a good thing.

1534
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 9: And so there's that just that additional.

1535
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 7: Hope that raises everybody.

1536
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 9: It's just it's you can't put a put a value

1537
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 9: on it. It's so invaluable to have someone at that

1538
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 9: position to that that can play that way that that

1539
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 9: that's that's probably honestly, if I had to boil it

1540
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 9: down to one thing, if you know, you can go

1541
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 9: into arm strength and you go into accuracy and all

1542
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 9: these other things. Like when you boil it down, that's

1543
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 9: what people are saying when they look at them, right, like,

1544
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 9: whatever the whatever, the combination of their talents, because I

1545
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 9: think we've seen it enough throughout the league that there's,

1546
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 9: you know, many different ways to play, many different ways

1547
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 9: to build out that position, and the way these guys

1548
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 9: come up and the way they've developed, there's just so

1549
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 9: many unique skill sets. But when you boil it down,

1550
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 9: the really good ones have that capability, and that's not

1551
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 9: something you can can buy.

1552
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:19,440
Speaker 7: No.

1553
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: No.

1554
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 6: I always say the best quarterbacks in the NFL can

1555
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 6: throw the ball when you know.

1556
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 7: They have to throw the ball.

1557
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that kind of as a converse to what

1558
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 6: you said, it's if I'm a fan of my team

1559
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 6: and their quarterback gets the ball back down six, how

1560
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 6: scared am I the more scared I am, the better

1561
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: that they are.

1562
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1563
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 6: You want to have a quarterback that makes the other

1564
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 6: fan base and the other team obviously very nervous in

1565
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 6: that so when you're watching, obviously some of that would

1566
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 6: be what I would call clutch meter people who have

1567
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 6: the ability to just be better when it matters the most.

1568
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 6: There are also, as you mentioned, their physical tricks, right

1569
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 6: arm strength, but there are kind of intangibles. It's the instincts,

1570
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 6: the ability to quickly process information, to cipher recoverage, nowhere

1571
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 6: to go with football, and then be able to deliver

1572
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 6: that football on time and accurately. When you watch, if

1573
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 6: you're going through quarterbacks, what take me through your process

1574
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 6: of what you do you start a play? Take me

1575
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 6: through just one play of a quarterback, how you how

1576
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 6: you approach it, what you're looking for?

1577
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I and think ultimately like they're they're the captain

1578
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 9: of the offense, right, So it's from how they break

1579
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 9: the huddle right to when they get to the line

1580
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 9: of scrimmage, just sort of trying to glean how much

1581
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 9: control they have of what's happening. And obviously with different systems,

1582
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 9: you know, there's different latitude in terms of checks, audibles,

1583
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 9: you know, hots, et cetera. So you can't you know,

1584
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 9: you can't, don't overdo it in terms of watching it,

1585
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 9: but you just want to get a sense of, like, Okay,

1586
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 9: how much control do they have in the pre snap

1587
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 9: process for the offense and then again with the ball snaps.

1588
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 9: It kind of comes down to some of the things

1589
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 9: you said, but also just all right, how are they

1590
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 9: moving the football? How is this offense moving the football?

1591
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 9: Are they getting the guys the right ball, the ball

1592
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 9: in the right spots? Are they doing it in timely fashion?

1593
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 5: You know? Are you doing it with the right pace?

1594
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 5: On football?

1595
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 9: You know they can they put touch on the ball

1596
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 9: when they need to put touch on you know, can

1597
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 9: they drive it when they need to drive it?

1598
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: Right?

1599
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 9: It's there again, you act the position to do so

1600
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 9: many things. You want to see how many times they

1601
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 9: display that ability throughout the course.

1602
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 5: Of you know, every game.

1603
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 9: You know, by the time we're done with this, we

1604
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 9: probably will have watched every game for the last two

1605
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 9: and a half years of these guys, every throw, you know.

1606
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 5: Every key situation, over and over over and over and

1607
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 5: over again.

1608
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 9: And you want to walk away feeling good that if

1609
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 9: this guy gets in this situation and needs to deliver.

1610
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 9: I've seen enough examples, and you never know, you know,

1611
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 9: like you never know when it's going to click too.

1612
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 9: They may come in as a as a rookie and

1613
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 9: light it up. You know, it may take them a

1614
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 9: few years, but you want to have enough confidence that

1615
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 9: you've seen the ability in them at some point in

1616
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 9: their career to execute on the things you believe and

1617
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 9: and honestly that's just at the player level. But then

1618
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 9: you you probably have to take a step back and

1619
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 9: think about your system once you going.

1620
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 6: To ask you what's more important, And I'm sure the

1621
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 6: answer is yes all. But for example, I think in

1622
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 6: this draft there's a fair I'll say, you know what's

1623
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 6: coming on it. There seems to be somewhat of a

1624
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 6: consensus outside of perhaps NFL rooms, just in the people

1625
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 6: I talk to in the media that Cam is the

1626
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 6: more toolsy obviously clearly put tape on, better arm, some

1627
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 6: of those things.

1628
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 7: More toolsy.

1629
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 6: Shoudoor might be the best pure passer in the sense

1630
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 6: that instructure on time, incredibly accurate, the throwing motion, all

1631
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 6: of those things, and seems like might be a good

1632
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 6: fit for a kind of a system like that we

1633
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 6: would run under Kevin Stefanski. How do you just personally,

1634
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 6: is it get the clay and we can make it

1635
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 6: work in our system where oh this guy does his

1636
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 6: best traits are what we are the most important things

1637
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 6: for us to do for a quarterback.

1638
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 5: Yes, like you said, it's.

1639
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 7: Just all of the above, which is fair.

1640
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but I mean I think it's really important

1641
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 9: to you know, you got to find the right weight

1642
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 9: for both for you, you know, and that's why it's really

1643
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 9: important for the alignment with your offense. I think if

1644
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 9: you look across the league, there's a lot of synergy

1645
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 9: between between that interplay between what you want to do,

1646
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 9: what you need to do it, and who's the.

1647
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: Right player or the right players.

1648
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 5: To execute on that.

1649
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 9: So you can't put one hundred percent weight on just oh,

1650
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 9: this dude's just got the best quote unquote arm talent.

1651
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 9: But we need to do this within our system, and

1652
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 9: you can't just be fully, in my opinion, fully on

1653
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 9: the other end of the spectrum of like, look, this

1654
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 9: is what we do and if X player can't do this,

1655
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 9: they have no chance.

1656
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 5: You know.

1657
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 9: I think the teams that are really really good do

1658
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 9: a nice job of blending the two honestly understanding that

1659
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 9: those things carry different way to honestly at different points

1660
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 9: of their careers, totally right, Like there there may be

1661
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 9: a time where you do need to put a little

1662
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 9: bit more weight on, like, hey, let's build a really

1663
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 9: really good system around this guy. Put a cocoon around

1664
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 9: him and allow him to grow. Right, and so this

1665
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 9: is the way we're going to play and then boom,

1666
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 9: take the take the training rolls off and let them roll.

1667
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 5: And then there's some guys rusas he.

1668
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 7: That's to do your thing.

1669
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: That's the dude.

1670
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 9: You you you don't constrain him from being him because

1671
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 9: he's already ready. So I think that's where you know,

1672
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 9: you know, our for us would be Kevin and Andrew.

1673
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 9: I know they're gonna do a great job of this

1674
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 9: if we were to be in that position, Like you

1675
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 9: got to have great leadership and work through that as

1676
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 9: as as an organization and do the right thing for

1677
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 9: said player if you get in that position.

1678
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 6: So well, we know Glenn's gonna want a gun slinger

1679
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 6: because Brett fire. That has to that has to shape

1680
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 6: who you are as a young man in a quarterback

1681
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 6: value exactly.

1682
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 5: However, you get there. However, you get that one, guys,

1683
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 5: all right.

1684
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 7: We'll get you out of here on this one.

1685
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 6: A year ago, if you and I had sat down

1686
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 6: here together, the position that we are in right now

1687
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 6: probably would have seemed unfathomable, and justifiably so, right coming

1688
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 6: off of the playoff appearance. Haven't had a first round

1689
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 6: picking three years and yet here we are back into

1690
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 6: the first round and picking second. An opportunity to really

1691
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 6: kind of write the course and rechange the trajectory of

1692
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 6: the franchise with an asset that we never thought we.

1693
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 7: Would have, but here it is, we have it.

1694
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 6: How does that kind of play into everything, if at all,

1695
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 6: in terms of man, we haven't got to be here

1696
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 6: with the first round picking three years.

1697
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 7: Now we do, and guess what it's number two?

1698
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say, I guess I'll work in reverse

1699
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 9: like it's it's an honor to be in that position,

1700
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 9: because you could be in a different position right where

1701
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 9: you've had a season like that, maybe you're not picking

1702
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 9: in the first round, or maybe you're picking link because

1703
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 9: the pick has been moved or something like that. So

1704
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 9: we are fortunate that, hey, we got a chance to

1705
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 9: add a really good player. You know, you can trade up,

1706
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 9: you can sit, you can trade back. Like we're we're

1707
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 9: in a really good position in terms of how to

1708
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 9: maximize the opportunity right however that is, that could be

1709
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 9: a player who helps expedite or build on that trajectory.

1710
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 9: It could be acquiring more picks which has been done

1711
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 9: to then complete the same thing. And so that's it's

1712
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 9: great to be in that position.

1713
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 5: Like one.

1714
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 9: It's like we've acknowledged it was a rough year. You know,

1715
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 9: we just talked about it. It was a rough year. I

1716
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 9: don't think any of us would would say we were

1717
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 9: excited about how that played out. But part of that

1718
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 9: process is also stepping back and saying, Okay, what do

1719
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 9: we need to do in order to accomplish the things

1720
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 9: that we want to do. And you know, being a

1721
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 9: pick too puts us in a I wouldn't say pole position,

1722
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 9: but it puts us in a pretty good spot to execute.

1723
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1724
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 9: And so at the end of the day, and you

1725
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 9: think about it on the field too, it's about executing,

1726
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,919
Speaker 9: you know. And so we I think our staff, the coaches,

1727
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 9: the personnel group, we understand it's really important for us

1728
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 9: to execute this season. And then seasons beyond to build

1729
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 9: what we want to build here. So that's the focus.

1730
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 9: You know, you can't focus on the pick right now.

1731
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 9: We can't make it for a couple of months, but

1732
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 9: we got to make sure at every step of the way.

1733
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 9: We talked about the combine at the beginning of this,

1734
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 9: we got to execute while we're here. So we got

1735
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 9: boots on the ground, people are grinding, you know, we're

1736
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 9: trying to get as much information as we can. Complete that,

1737
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 9: and then we move to the next phase, which is

1738
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 9: proda's kind of going back and cycling through these guys

1739
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 9: with another you know, cadre of information that we have

1740
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 9: from the testing or just spending time with them executing that.

1741
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 9: And then when we get to draft night, you know,

1742
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 9: we got to execute on the pick, you know, and

1743
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 9: so we want to make the make the city proud,

1744
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 9: make the organization proud, and we we will accomplish that.

1745
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Speaker 7: I love it. Glenn.

1746
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 6: Well, let's get you back out there get some more information.

1747
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 6: Thanks so much for the time, and good luck.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League ingart hit it, hit it

1764
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: one more, one more?

1765
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Speaker 8: Oh no, hey there, I hit the button. I just

1766
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 8: didn't pop myself.

1767
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 3: You know why.

1768
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 8: We're literally like we played the interview off of the computer,

1769
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 8: Yeah and j Mac. Yeah, devised a plan. It worked,

1770
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 8: except it involved five different pots moving at different things.

1771
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 3: So we're getting there.

1772
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 8: You get that was on me Schefter Bengals placed the

1773
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,520
Speaker 8: twenty six point two million dollar French tag on franchise

1774
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 8: tag on wide receiver t Higgins, the second straight year

1775
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 8: that the Bengals have used their franchise tag on Higgins.

1776
01:17:53,880 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 8: T Higgins immediately reposted and said, tag period the game

1777
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 8: is on.

1778
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: It's fun. You had to include the period?

1779
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 2: Alright?

1780
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: What is That's what he did? All right?

1781
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: So this is I have in front of me. I

1782
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: can't wait to see this is.

1783
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 3: Let me see what this is.

1784
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: This is this total value twenty six Okay, this is

1785
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 2: this is years. This is money per year highest paid

1786
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: wide receivers in football. So JJ thirty five a year,

1787
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten guaranteed. That's number one. Jamar Chase

1788
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: is going to USURP. That also twenty six years old.

1789
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb is number two. His yearly salary is a

1790
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 2: million less than JJ. He's thirty four with one hundred guaranteed.

1791
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,520
Speaker 3: He ain't get day.

1792
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 2: Is this is where I'm getting. Let's see what he

1793
01:18:52,800 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: computer just did. Great, fantastic twenty six point If my

1794
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: memory of that graphic I was just was looking at

1795
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 2: would put him in about eighth or tenth in the

1796
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: league at the twenty six point two number. So what's

1797
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: the number that gets it done?

1798
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: Here were we That's that's the message I got you.

1799
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 6: A J.

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01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 4: Brown was thirty two million a year. Yeah, Aman Ross

1801
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 4: saying Brown is thirty, We would put him at eleventh

1802
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 4: per the g man.

1803
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: All right, there you go so round. I'm I'm crushing

1804
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: it today with all the object I'm right on it.

1805
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: He'd be behind Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup twenty six point seven.

1806
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 3: You were right about that.

1807
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: Well, he got that after he won the triple Crown. Yeah, yeah,

1808
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: So I think I think that the the thing will

1809
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: be how can an NFL team pay because Jamars could

1810
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: be four. There's people talking Jamar thinks he's gonna get forty. Now.

1811
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: They remember how angry he was. He wanted it done.

1812
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: He said that they lied to him last year in

1813
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: camp and he said, what we were supposed to do this,

1814
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: they misled, they didn't, so he played and then he

1815
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: did a triple crown and now they're gonna have to

1816
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: really pay. If they'd done the deal last year, he

1817
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: would have used surp justin Jefferson, but it wasn't gonna

1818
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: be like he wants to.

1819
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 3: They're gonna give him thirty seven and a half.

1820
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: For Jamar and one hundred and one hundred and thirty,

1821
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty guaranteed.

1822
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 3: No, it's gotta be.

1823
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: Because JJ's what's j T. No, he's won ten guaranteed

1824
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: that I think I ain't got that. I think he's

1825
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: I think he's one ten guaranteed. So he's gonna correct,

1826
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna wap that field.

1827
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 3: But then give him one twenty.

1828
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, like one twenty guaranteed.

1829
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 4: And I think that'll be good enough. That's probably the

1830
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 4: number because listen the Eagles doing it.

1831
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 3: They got A J.

1832
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 4: Brown at thirty two and Davante Adams that I mean

1833
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 4: Davonte Davonte Smith at twenty five.

1834
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: That's one and two.

1835
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 2: Thirty two and twenty five is much less than thirty

1836
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: eight and thirty.

1837
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it ain't. He ain't.

1838
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 2: If T it's free agency, he'll get thirty.

1839
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: He could. Yeah, he ain't getting that.

1840
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 4: They can't give him thirty unless they do, unless they

1841
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 4: do thirty over like seven years or something like that.

1842
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: They are that team is uniquely qualified to be the

1843
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: team that sells ten percent of their organization to private

1844
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: equity for an influx of five hundred million dollars. They're

1845
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 2: the team for that they need the cash because they

1846
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: could trans they could restructure Burrow's deal to get him

1847
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: guaranteed money, kick that money down the curb, and then

1848
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 2: you could spread this out so lesser. A cap hit

1849
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: for Burrow allows for them to spread it more evenly.

1850
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: But even if they take care of Higgins and Chase,

1851
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: they still have to take care of Trey Hendrickson. If

1852
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: you could have two of the three, which two do

1853
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: you take?

1854
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: Oh? I'm taking Wait, Trey Hendrickson is like what thirty one?

1855
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 8: Now?

1856
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they usually go off a cliff around that time.

1857
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm going with the two receivers, me too.

1858
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: And also it's a like Henderson was that good this

1859
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: year with anything, So let's try to be little. Just

1860
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: try out score people. That's not a right.

1861
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 3: You better hit on.

1862
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,600
Speaker 4: Your picks that if they would have done that to

1863
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 4: they would be in this situation to begin with.

1864
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 3: That's these bates walk.

1865
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 4: They're literally missed on the defensive players that they've got.

1866
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Cam Taylor Britt was supposed to be one

1867
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 4: of the best corners in the league. That's what they

1868
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 4: were saying.

1869
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: Coming to Xhale played safety at Michigan. They thought they

1870
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: were gonna make him a corner. Yeah, it's just they've

1871
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: they've been offensive lineman too.

1872
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 3: They missed on those two.

1873
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what happens when you miss You got

1874
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: to overpay now, and that's that's tough.

1875
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: I can't be in that business.

1876
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: Uh NFL for your free agencies. Right around the corner,

1877
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: here are some of the best available players, starting with quarterbacks.

1878
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 2: It's a big list.

1879
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 3: Of guys, right and none of them.

1880
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 2: Wow, well Darnold is not in play here. No, yeah, no,

1881
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: so that's not gonna be it. The rest of them,

1882
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: I can see the Stafford Domino has already fallen, so

1883
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: Darnold will be the next thing that needs to fall.

1884
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: So we need to figure out. If you're Minnesota, are

1885
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: you keeping him on a bake type deal? Three years,

1886
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: one point fifty and because remember JJ had two surgeries.

1887
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: I don't I if I was Minnesota, I'd give him

1888
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: a two year.

1889
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Deal, two year, one hundred fully guaranteed.

1890
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 3: That's pushing it, man, that's pushing it.

1891
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to overpay if you're only giving him two.

1892
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: I don't want it.

1893
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be comfortable with JJ. To be honest

1894
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: with you, I just the only reason that it would

1895
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 4: scare me a little bit is because he's coming off injury.

1896
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: But those last couple of games was very telling.

1897
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: So if he hits the market, it'll be Vegas Giants, Jets,

1898
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: a return to the Jets.

1899
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 4: He ain't going back to the Jets, even though it

1900
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 4: would be nice. Nice, you know.

1901
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: I wonder if the Steelers cap could they pay a

1902
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: quarterback like that or do they have to.

1903
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 4: Go I feel like they Why do I feel like

1904
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 4: they're not in the best cap situation.

1905
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: Well, they're not paying a quarterback, and anytime you're not

1906
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 2: paying a quarterback, you usually can manage it.

1907
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 8: Steelers have fifty nine million, oh yeah, guy, and they

1908
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 8: can afford it, so they would be a team that

1909
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 8: could do it.

1910
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: But the Darnold domino will fall. Everything I'm seeing is

1911
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: that the Steelers have contract offers out to both Russell

1912
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: Wilson and Justin Fields, but they're basically bargain basement deals

1913
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 2: for both.

1914
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 4: If Russell, I don't understand why he would. I've been

1915
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 4: seeing the smoking mirrors about him going to the Raiders,

1916
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 4: you know, the link up with Pete Carroll again.

1917
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 3: The Justin Fields thing.

1918
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: I think his decision dictates off of what Russell does.

1919
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 4: If Russell leaves, then Justin should stay because I think

1920
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 4: they like Justin there. I think he's in a good

1921
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 4: organize where he can grow and stuff like that, and

1922
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 4: I think he's got some weapons over there that he

1923
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: can utilize. If Russell stays, then Justin should go somewhere

1924
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 4: else and then try to become a starter somewhere else.

1925
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 3: That's personally Indian. That's a good spot. Who you talking

1926
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 3: about Justin? Yeah, it wouldn't be bad Vegas.

1927
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: He's he's one of those ones too. Yeah, He's one

1928
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: of those ones where it's like the circumstances you find

1929
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: yourself in shape what you become.

1930
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 4: Justin just My only issue with Justin is is that

1931
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 4: he got those moments that he's a teaser. He'll show

1932
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 4: you something you'd be like, oh my goodness, this key.

1933
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 4: Look at this kid, and whether it's with his legs

1934
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 4: or some of the throws, it's like, oh my goodness,

1935
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 4: that's magnificent. But then he'll go like three or four

1936
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 4: games where it's like, dude, what are you doing?

1937
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: You know?

1938
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 4: And then with the Steelers this past year, they basically said, listen,

1939
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 4: don't force anything, just go out there and just be

1940
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 4: just be vanilla. Just if it ain't there, run it whatever.

1941
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 4: Just don't do too much.

1942
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: And he looked like it just an average guy.

1943
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing, Like they took his superpowers away

1944
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 4: from so to me, he got to go somewhere that

1945
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 4: has got good weapons, that can make plays, but that

1946
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 4: also allow him to use his legs because that's what

1947
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 4: he's known for.

1948
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: He's running out of time.

1949
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 3: He is running out of time. Yeah, wherever his next

1950
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 3: place is, he gotta do something or it's you're going

1951
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 3: to be a bat.

1952
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: Someone would have told me when he was coming out

1953
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 2: of Ohio State juxtapost and I don't know if they

1954
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: were the same draft class or slightly might have been

1955
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: one year either way, that he would be in his

1956
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: position where he is in his career and Jalen Hurts

1957
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: would be in his I would have said, you were nuts,

1958
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Speaker 2: because Jalen Hurts. When he went to Oklahoma, there was

1959
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: talk he may have to play safety, like he was

1960
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: benched Alabamas he couldn't throw it. And then he went

1961
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: to quarterback finishing school at Oklahoma. He did well there,

1962
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: did very well. There was a finished sis second in

1963
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 2: the Heisman now some of that was I think the

1964
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: Buckeyes canceled themselves out. I think he was in the

1965
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: same one. There were two bucks. Was that the JK

1966
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Speaker 2: might have been Fields?

1967
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Speaker 3: Was he that year? He did?

1968
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Speaker 2: I think the Buckeyes canceled themselves out and he won.

1969
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Speaker 3: He wasn't playing when Jay, when Chase Young was.

1970
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Speaker 2: There, he could have been in that one. That would

1971
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Speaker 2: have been Haskins.

1972
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Speaker 3: Nineteen. He stand by, We're looking it up. They got it. Yeah,

1973
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Speaker 3: that's a good question.

1974
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Speaker 8: Okay the final Yeah, finalists were Burrow, Fields, Hurts and

1975
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Speaker 8: Chase Young.

1976
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Speaker 2: I am not missing anything today. Yeah, So the Buckeyes

1977
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: canceled themselves out and Jalen My point is coming Jalen

1978
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: coming out of Oklahoma, justin coming out of Ohio State, justin Yes,

1979
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: for sure, Yes, and look at what's happened. So that's

1980
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: a product of circumstances he's in. He is in a

1981
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: quarterback incubator in Philly, and he went to quarterback Siberia

1982
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Speaker 2: in Chicago.

1983
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Speaker 4: That's truly how the NFL is. It's all about where

1984
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Speaker 4: you it's the system. You gotta go to the right system.

1985
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Speaker 4: That's why you've seen these resurrections of the Baker's, the Ginos.

1986
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Speaker 3: The.

1987
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Speaker 4: Donald Yeah, that's because they got to a place where

1988
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 4: they understood the assignment. The play caller got to them

1989
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Speaker 4: and said this is what I want. It was clear

1990
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Speaker 4: as day for him and they made the right decisions.

1991
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Speaker 2: Where it's so much more to come. There you go,

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1996
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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna try to get smarter. You got

1997
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Speaker 2: ninety seconds. Tyvis Powell, why do coverage his bus?

1998
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Speaker 5: All right?

1999
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Speaker 4: So the Browns have been in a unique situation. I've

2000
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 4: been in the locker rooms. I'm able to say this.

2001
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you an example of how it can

2002
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Speaker 4: be that a secondary can bust covers and it comes

2003
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Speaker 4: from looking at the empty call.

2004
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Speaker 3: So what fans need to know is going.

2005
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Speaker 4: Into every game, usually the team has a different empty

2006
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 4: check in every week because they don't want to do

2007
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 4: the same thing, so you mix the things up. You

2008
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 4: know what, if this is a team that normally we

2009
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 4: play cover three, or if they go empty, we might

2010
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 4: come cover to this game. Vice versa. We're playing cover

2011
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 4: two this week. When they go to empty, it checks

2012
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 4: to cover three. Now this is where it gets tricky.

2013
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna draw on this piece of paper right here.

2014
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can see it or.

2015
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Speaker 2: Take this camera. So he's got for those of you

2016
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: on the radio, he's got a guy lined up off

2017
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Speaker 2: the line.

2018
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Speaker 7: We call it a.

2019
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 4: Grave digger position. The tight end is not on the ball.

2020
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 4: He's in that grave digger position. Then you got three

2021
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,839
Speaker 4: receivers to the outside and you got one backside. Okay,

2022
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 4: to the average fan, that looks like empty, But that's

2023
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 4: not empty because that tight end could be also a

2024
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 4: running back and being protection. So to an average fan

2025
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 4: it looks like empty, which means that some guys to

2026
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 4: see it and say there's no back in the backfield

2027
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 4: that's empty, to where a coach will be like, we're

2028
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 4: treating that grave digging tight end as a running back.

2029
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 4: So that's actually three by one. It could be fixed

2030
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 4: if you just do hand signals. But that is a

2031
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 4: way that coverages can get busts. That's how it can

2032
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 4: be easily miss understood in the secondary.

2033
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Speaker 3: There you go.

2034
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Speaker 2: Now, when you drew that up in the break? What

2035
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 2: did I tell you? I saw it as you.

2036
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 3: Seen it as empty?

2037
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Speaker 4: No, you said three by one, you said three by one.

2038
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 4: You're smart. You're a smart man's three by.

2039
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Speaker 3: One it is. We've been said three by one and

2040
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Speaker 3: you were one hundred percent correct.

2041
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