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Speaker 2: Lamp. Good morning, Swim and welcome to the No Dunk's

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Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, May first, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. I'm j Skis here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 2: and alongside me as always Taskmel.

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Speaker 1: Hey, podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the bearded one Atapsha hot boy

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Speaker 1: Hello, there he is and here we are.

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Speaker 2: Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. On today's show,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna discuss Dyson Daniel's most improved player win, we'll

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Speaker 2: preview and predict the second round series between the Calves

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Speaker 2: and the Pacers, and obviously we'll break down last night's

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Speaker 2: two game fives. But first, new holy crap, how tall

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Speaker 2: is Wemby photo just dropped this from yesterday with all

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Speaker 2: of the Spurs Rookie of the years getting together to

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Speaker 2: celebrate Castle's latest ROI and uh yeah, there's Wemby on

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Speaker 2: the far right, looking somehow taller than the last time

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Speaker 2: we saw him. Because I don't know, I was told

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Speaker 2: my whole life David Robinson was seven to one.

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Speaker 1: Wendy looks like.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, just a fun pick going around. Obviously Dunk

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Speaker 2: get a huge dude too, and Castle even looks taller

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Speaker 2: with his hair. But Mat Wemby, he's growing, Jass.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely is. Because if you saw the last photo

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Speaker 1: Robinson and Tim duncan Man who Genobi Shane, Oh he

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Speaker 1: looked pretty normal. Yeah wow, this was twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: almost two years ago, and he's grown since then.

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Speaker 1: I mean part of it is the arms. I guess

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Speaker 1: he's grown. He's literally growing. He was nineteen in this

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Speaker 1: photo that we're seeing here on YouTube if you're watching

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Speaker 3: It does kind of look like he's on Sean Elliott

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Speaker 3: and David Robinson's shoulders like they're carrying him after it injury.

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Speaker 3: But I think it should be part of media day

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Speaker 3: every year. We're just checking in with Wemby seeing how

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Speaker 3: Tally is. Yeah, I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Well, look here's a segue for you. It was a

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Speaker 2: great day for tall Frenchmen yesterday. Wemby in that pick

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Speaker 2: and Rudy Gobert dominating the small ball Lakers, the short

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Speaker 2: ball Lakers, whatever you want to call him. Wolves advance

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Speaker 2: with the one oh three ninety six win in Game five.

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Speaker 2: It was not the prettiest game we've ever seen because

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Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves went seven for forty seven from three,

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Speaker 2: worst we've ever seen in a playoff game when you're

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Speaker 2: looking at that many attempts and that percentage. But their

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Speaker 2: best offense task was don't worry, we'll miss a shot.

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert will go get the offensive rebounds score. He

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Speaker 2: was amazing in this Game five in a series where

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Speaker 2: he had done almost nothing up until this point.

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Speaker 1: Points wise, he had not done much. No, this could

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Speaker 1: shots because that matter. But yeah, this team shot just

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy that this was a close game. Four

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Speaker 3: Had a tough fall.

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Speaker 1: You did have a tough fall in this game. It's

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Speaker 2: Maybe poor conditioning, Yes, seems to be an issue you,

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Speaker 2: Nico Harrison, You're right, we've seen a lot of Lakers games,

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Speaker 1: He did. No, it's it's fair, and especially when you

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Speaker 1: Luka Doncics defensively, and it was happening in every single game.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers won all fourth quarter. Excuse me, the Wolves

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fourth quarter was really the difference in this series.

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Speaker 3: Reason because they were much better in the clutch. They

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Speaker 3: We saw what the Timberwolves were like in the clutch

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Speaker 3: this season, twenty third from a net rating perspective minus

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Speaker 3: for the Timberwolves as well. This game plan for JJ

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Speaker 3: entire time. Jackson Hayes I already told him he is

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Speaker 3: not playing even though Rudy Gobert was going nuts. You

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Speaker 3: could have changed your mind at any time. Didn't want to.

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Speaker 3: But twenty seven points, twenty four rebounds for Gobert, that's

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Speaker 3: a lot of roast. Be two blocks. The first four

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Speaker 3: games of this series, Rudy Garbert was four of twelve

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Speaker 3: twelve of fifteen. Had Shack throwing up at halftime because

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Speaker 3: he had to say how well.

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Speaker 2: He was playing. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it is wild,

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Speaker 2: like Rudy was pretty ineffective. He was at times being

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Speaker 2: Finch like he benched him down the stretch for two

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Speaker 2: He never practiced. They were telling us with the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: but he just, you know, Reddick just sort of dug

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Speaker 2: playing centerless basketball. I don't trust Jackson Hayes, Alex lad

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Speaker 2: does he have a jersey on? Yeah, get him in there.

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Speaker 2: He'd be sort of big. Let's put him out. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's how Desperty got.

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Speaker 1: It was an interesting move to say before the game

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Speaker 1: They kept showing him on the bench.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they once JJ said that they set up the

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Speaker 3: Jackson Hayes anytime an offensive rebound cut to Jackon Hayes.

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Speaker 1: So Jackson Hayes camera. Unfortunately he couldn't come out to play.

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Speaker 1: Was JJ Reddick doing this because he thought he'd get

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Speaker 1: This could have been a spanker. This could have been.

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Speaker 2: That should have been. It honestly should have been, because,

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Speaker 2: like you said, these were not bad three point attempts

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Speaker 2: dominating similar vibes. But yeah, it's funny. I saw a

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Speaker 2: Streaky Shooter tweet. It's pretty hilarious that JJ Reddick got

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert the best playoff game of his career. Yes,

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Speaker 2: because you know, before the game, yeah, JJ was very

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Speaker 2: upset with one of the questions about, hey, do you

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Speaker 2: you know you're gonna lean maybe more on your assistant

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Speaker 2: he stormed.

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Speaker 3: Off, stormed off, which is not a good look for

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Speaker 3: He's basically saying, of course, I talked to my assistance.

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Speaker 3: I do love the ending line, weird assumption, the walk

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jackson Hayes ain't changing the series, and we're

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Speaker 3: being quite honest. Alex Land somehow makes it worse. Christian

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Speaker 3: Coloco was associated with the Lakers at one point this season,

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Speaker 3: so everybody was getting their center jokes off, even Mark Williams,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he probably would have also been on the bench.

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Speaker 3: But there's no other way to say it. There's no

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Speaker 3: other way to actually no task hit on it earlier.

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Speaker 3: Best playoff series of Julius Randall's career by far, twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have liked him see and said, well

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Anything else from this game.

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Speaker 3: I got a couple of things. McDaniels had major moments.

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. Everybody picking the Lakers in five he said,

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Speaker 2: Hey, and Anthony Edwards. Not everybody picked the Lakers to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to believe in this Wolves team when

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Speaker 3: three games in this series. That's a complete turnaround, and

430
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 3: that's why the Rockets looked awesome offensive. They also went

431
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: twenty eight to thirty two at the free throw line

432
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 3: during a series when they haven't shot the ball very well.

433
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: Part of that is Steven Adams, certainly, but also just

434
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: they haven't been making their free throws. That gave the

435
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 3: Rockets a chance to set their defense. Their offense was cooking,

436
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 3: so they can get back and play half court, and

437
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 3: good luck scoring against them in the half court. Aman

438
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 3: Thompson was great, Fred van Vliet was great. They held

439
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 3: Curry and Butler to a combined twenty one points on

440
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 3: six of twenty two field goals shooting, and basically the

441
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 3: Warriors at halftime were down so much that Draymond Green

442
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: and Steve Kerr had to chat about how can we

443
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: try and come back. Draymond said, give us five minutes,

444
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 3: that's all he wanted. It was five minutes, and then

445
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 3: they came out and the Rockets were still fired up

446
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: after halftime. You had Shengun defending Steph Curry out to

447
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: the half core line, breaking up passes. They were locked

448
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 3: in in this game. They were perfect on the defensive

449
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 3: end and got an offensive performance to turn it into

450
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 3: a blowout as well. So great stuff from the Rockets.

451
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of funny, kind of odd that

452
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: the Warriors didn't say, all right, let's bring our starters

453
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: back in the fourth quarter because it was kind of

454
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: took off his ankle braces and then did put them

455
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: back on, though it started to get like this is

456
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: getting a little interesting, but obviously.

457
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 3: Never checked back.

458
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: They're resting, they're waiting for Game number six, while the

459
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: Wolves are get the rest to face whoever they're going

460
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: to face from this series. Yeah, the first half was

461
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: was great for the Rockets. I mean they just they

462
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: just shut it down.

463
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: Listen to the numbers. Houston's first half numbers here, shooting

464
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 2: the ball sixty nine point four percent from the floor,

465
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 2: sixty percent from deep. They went nine to fifteen in

466
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Speaker 2: the first half and maybe the most impressive eighty five

467
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: percent of the line in the first half, seventeen to twenty.

468
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 2: They were thirteen to thirteen in the first quarter. This

469
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: has been like one of their's issues this entire series.

470
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: They're live in a lot of points on the board

471
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: at the free throw line, but not in this game.

472
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: And then yeah, you said it. It was weird, like

473
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: it was a start of the second half. Was it

474
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: Dennis Scott that gave us the update on who was

475
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: it on? Sorry I forget who's on the sideline in

476
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 2: this game, but it was someone like telling us the

477
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: whole like, yeah, they're gonna give him five minutes here

478
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: curse said, you talked with Draymond. Yeah, and like they

479
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: told us they called it and then sure enough that's

480
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: what happened, and then after the game, Curse said, I

481
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: wasn't going to chase this game. Obviously Game six is

482
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: coming up in forty eight hours, And I talked to

483
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: Draymond and he said, the five minutes and you know,

484
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: unless we made a big run, I was gonna pull

485
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: the plug, which I glad they did. Yeah, and probably

486
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: the right move.

487
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd think so, because the Rockets were

488
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: locked in, like they haven't been locked in through the

489
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: first four games. They were fricking awesome. They were just scrambling,

490
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: they were getting out to shooters, they were getting into

491
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: passing lanes.

492
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

493
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: If shn Guon is front guarding stuff at one point

494
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: and then stealing a ball from him at another point,

495
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: that is just the best Rockets defensive game that we've seen. Men.

496
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Thompson was so good at guarding Steph. Two mid court

497
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: steals on him, one, recovering at mid court on him,

498
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, doing everything blocking him. And I thought if offensively,

499
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: even though Shangun's numbers were way lower than Game four,

500
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: I thought this was a much better Rockets team effort

501
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: because Shan Gun was looking for everybody else and the

502
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: other guys in Game four, when Shangun had thirty one

503
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: points on twenty eight shots were just kind of static.

504
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: They didn't know what to do, so they give it

505
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: to Shangun and he's gonna he's gonna do it, and

506
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: he had a good productive game. But fifteen points on

507
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: nine shots was far more important to me. They looked

508
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody was getting involved. So it was fun.

509
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: It was just a fun Rockets game. We'll see what

510
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: they can do in game sex.

511
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Warriors had five fouls in the first five

512
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: minutes of this game too. I mean the Rockets were

513
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 2: into the bonus early. It fueled like a fifteen to

514
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: zero run. They were down twenty six to five, and

515
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: then they were playing catch up the entire time. At

516
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: one point, I guess it was a couple of minutes

517
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: to go. In the first half, Dylan Brooks banked in

518
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: a three pointer.

519
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: There were some banking and the.

520
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: Camera like, this is how great the first half was going.

521
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: He banked in a shot that should have missed by

522
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: ten feet and it cut to the Rockets bench and

523
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: even his guys. You could see a few of them

524
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: like laughing and smiling and trying to hold it together, like, oh,

525
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: I think it was Jabari Smith Junior and Cam whitmore

526
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: like they're like they're like like taking a sip of water.

527
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the hell did that go? And we

528
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: can't miss at all. So it was one of those

529
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: games where they were just cooking. I also you brought

530
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: up Mom and Thompson all his highlights. You know, there's

531
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: like this thing on YouTube. It's sort of like a

532
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: template I guess where it goes, like blank things, but

533
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: they get increasingly more blank. Right, so there's like a

534
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: good one going around. Kevin Harlan calls, but they get

535
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: increasingly more legendary, or like Steph Curry shots, but they

536
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 2: get increasingly more impossible. But we need like Am and

537
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: Thompson highlights, but they get more increasingly cooler because everything

538
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: this guy does just looks cool, and you can just

539
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: keep getting cooler and Cooler's the way he moves and

540
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: how he looks, and obviously as athleticism. So somebody start

541
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: working on that. I'm and Thompson highlights that get increasingly

542
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: more cooler. I start building it. Now you're gonna have

543
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: gold in like five or six years and millions of few.

544
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: Maybe we should just do it.

545
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: But he wasn't cool when he went after Gary Pitton

546
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Peyton the second like he went after and Dylan Brooks

547
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: peeled them apart. Peacemaker Dylan Brooks can.

548
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: People chan that was not a peaceful breaking up though.

549
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: I didn't think he socks then Thompson, are you ejacked.

550
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: Out of here? Yeah?

551
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: It was like didn't Kate Cunningham do that to Ron Holland?

552
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

553
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: And they're serious. I was hitting their own guys now, Yeah?

554
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: I like that.

555
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: Keep them separated.

556
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

557
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks after the game basically confirmed that he is

558
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: deliberately attacking you know, Steph's injured thumb. He said, quote,

559
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: if I had an injured ankle, I would attack that

560
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: ankle every single time. So whatever they're saying on the broadcast,

561
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: they can keep saying that because this came up on

562
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: the Warriors broadcast, this idea of like, oh, they're being

563
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: way too physical with Steph. They know his thumb injury

564
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 2: and they're sort of swiping more at it or being

565
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: more aggressive. Do you have any opinions on that? Are

566
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: they crossing a line to you or playing it as

567
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: you should in a playoff.

568
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: Series, that's how it goes. There was that picture of

569
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: Steph Curry walking in that the Warriors social media team

570
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: posted in his thumb looks gigantic.

571
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just.

572
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: A big round thumb. So Steve Kerr was basically saying,

573
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: all thirty coaches agree with me that we should get

574
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: rid of this rule where you can high five the

575
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: guy after the shot has been released and his hands

576
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: are just up there. But we got to take it

577
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: before the competition committee before we can change the rules.

578
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: So for right now, it's legal. Let's just throw back basketball.

579
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 3: You got tape on you, it's getting hit.

580
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean this has happened with Draymond Green.

581
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Remember there was a I don't know if it was

582
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: a playoffs, like Harden had a wrist injury, and I

583
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: remember like it was well known he had a wrist injury,

584
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: and there are clips of Draymond Green like like basically

585
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: almost like you know, Harden's grabbing on me, like punching

586
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: down at his wrist, and then Draymond admitted like, oh, yeah,

587
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: I know, you got an injured risk. Yeah, well I'm sorry,

588
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: We're not gonna take it easy on you. So yeah,

589
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: this goes both ways.

590
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: What I'm getting out here, you need a video compilation

591
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: of Dylan Brooks just hitting Curry's hands on shots. He

592
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: is hitting him as hard as he can and it

593
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with high five. And he's just

594
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: letting go of the ball and there's two hands up there,

595
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: and he's just hitting it as hard as he possibly can.

596
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: He's I guess, playing within the rules. I guess. I mean,

597
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: it's not even in a high five. It's just he

598
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: just he just tries to get him as.

599
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 2: Much as been.

600
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: But Steph and the Warriors were so desperate to get

601
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: an offense going. It was Steph bringing the ball from

602
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 1: the back court and just gunning it as hard as

603
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: you could to a three point line, getting his defender

604
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: on his heels and taking shots. And he was hitting shots.

605
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: He started this game. I thought Steph could possibly get

606
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: them back into this like he he did shoot way

607
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: more per minute because he only played twenty three minutes

608
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: in this game, but he got twelve shots up. Because

609
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: they were so desperate. The other guys just were not

610
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: doing their thing. Although Pajemski was sweet for a second,

611
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: but you were.

612
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: Happy with him taking shots. That was the defensive game plan.

613
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: They came out with Shngoun on Brandon Pegeenmski and they

614
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: were just doubling Curry or Butler every single time. So

615
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: that's why Pajemski got so many looks in the first quarter,

616
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: just an opportunity for Steph Cray to come up with

617
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: a new celebration. He had thirty eight a couple of

618
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: games ago, since then only thirty points combined. He's definitely

619
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: taken a back seat with this injured thumb. But if

620
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: he starts hitting in game six thumbs.

621
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: Up, Oh, thumbs up, probably right, They're probably right.

622
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 2: The Warriors got this score down to one fourteen, one

623
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: oh one before we did have a little fracas that

624
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: broke out with about four minutes to go. H this

625
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: was the one where Pat Spencer don't call me Cam

626
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: Spencer was pushing Brooks and then he got ejected because

627
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Spencer headbutted Elprin Shengun. So, you know, and I think

628
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: Kurt talked about like he liked what he saw from these,

629
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, the second and third string Warriors guys putting

630
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: up a bit of fight, and like, look, it could

631
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: have backfired for like the rockets, right, like sheng Gun

632
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: does something.

633
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: He's the one that.

634
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: Had boughts and then oh my god, he's missing game six,

635
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: not that Pat Spencer will because I'll have no impact

636
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: probably on this series moving forward. But yeah, they put

637
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: up a fight and uh and obviously got to like

638
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: save the legs of their old guys who didn't really

639
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: play there in the second half. And we'll see what

640
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: happened in game six.

641
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: Silver lining for the Warriors definitely is that they saved

642
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: minutes on Curry, Draymond and Jimmy Butler going into game six.

643
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, Pat Spencer is always h ott og o.

644
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: When he got subbed in and during the blog, he

645
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: was the only guy that was ready to play, and

646
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: then last night got into it with Schengu and actually

647
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: played pretty well I thought Spencer did. But just don't

648
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: mess with a guy wearing number sixty one. Yeah, he's

649
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: got nothing to.

650
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: Look right, they don't even know his name, called him

651
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: by his brother's name.

652
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: That's right.

653
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got nothing to lose, man. So yeah, Game

654
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: six is Friday night in San Francisco, and I don't like,

655
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: I think we're like maybe even talking about it, like

656
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, the Warriors played it wise or playing

657
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 2: the long game. They'll probably win Game six, and they

658
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: might I get it. You got Curry got a little

659
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: more rest. You got Jimmy who, like Jimmy was like

660
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: one of these games, like it was like, oh, this

661
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: is Miami heat. Jimmy at the end of the like

662
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put forth really that much effort like

663
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: he was. Jimmy Butler was like settling for three pointers

664
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: like early right away, and a couple of them were grenades.

665
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: I get that, like handed back to him at the

666
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: end of the shock clock, but it's like he wasn't

667
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: into it anyway. My point is, though there's Rockets team,

668
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: even in losses back in the bait, they were competitive.

669
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: Definitely, they were in these games.

670
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't think this is like gonna be like, Oh,

671
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Warriors by twenty five and they rolled a victory into

672
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: the second round. I think it's gonna be a really

673
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 2: tight game here. Yeah, and Houston's gonna try everything they

674
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: can to get it back there. Gonna need Vanlie to

675
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: keep it threes. Obviously they've unlocked some things on and

676
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: Thompson and the pressure that he's putting on. But I

677
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: can't wait for that Friday night game totally.

678
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: They work close games. They just couldn't figure it out offensively.

679
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: They couldn't Number one move the ball enough? And so

680
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: do they have that solved? They trusted each other and

681
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: Jayalen Green, even though he didn't have a big game,

682
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: they trusted him and he got after it, and so

683
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: all five guys were doing their part. Let's see if

684
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: they can pull it forward, because really they were super

685
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: close games with bad offensive performances mostly. Yeah, so we'll see.

686
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: But like you said, their defenses helped so much by

687
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: them scoring a little bit on the offensive end, so

688
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: they can set up and actually lock in. So they

689
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: need to continue to obviously hit some threes and even

690
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: get to the line and hit their free throw. So

691
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: again Friday night, anything else, any random notes from Game six?

692
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: That was a blowout, no doubt.

693
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: Yes, the Warriors have been known to drop a blowout

694
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: like this. Everybody was referencing the twenty twenty two series

695
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: against the Grizzlies, which followed this exact same like plot

696
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: of first three or four games turns into a game

697
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: five blowout on the road for the Grizzlies. But it

698
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: goes back even further than that. In twenty fifteen, the

699
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: Warriors are up three to zero on the Conference Finals

700
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: against Houston in the first quarter, they're down forty five

701
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: to twenty two of that game. Ended up lose by

702
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: thirteen in that one. In twenty sixteen, the Warriors lost

703
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: games three to four against the Oklahoma City Thunder in

704
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: the Conference Finals by it combined fifty two points to

705
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: go down three to one. In Game three of the

706
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: finals in Cleveland, they lost by thirty. Twenty seventeen, Warriors

707
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: up three oz in the finals, lose Game four on

708
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: the road by twenty one. Twenty eighteen, Warriors up three

709
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: to zero in the first round against the Spurs, score

710
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: ninety and lose game four by thirteen in San Antonio.

711
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two, we talked about the Grizzlies series, but

712
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: in the Conference finals against Dallas, trailed by twenty nine

713
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: heading into the fourth quarter of Game four, basically the

714
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: same thing happened here. The bench went crazy and made

715
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Steve Kirk consider putting back in the starters. End up

716
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: losing by ten in Dallas as well. So this is

717
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: a Warriors kind of thing to just give one up

718
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: in a disgusting way.

719
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have short memories the bounce back. Yeah yeah,

720
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: So we'll see what they have in store there again.

721
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: On Friday night in San Francisco. All right, let's pivot

722
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: to some news here. Hawks guard Dyson Daniels was named

723
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: the NBA's Most Improved Player on Wednesday, topping fellow finalist

724
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham and Viza Zubats of the Clippers. Daniels is

725
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: the second Hawks player to ever win this award. Do

726
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: you remember the first?

727
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: How far are we going?

728
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: Back way back to the late nineties and it is

729
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: a name that you forget late nineties, yeah, ninety seven,

730
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: ninety eight. He was not a star, so don't.

731
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: Worry about that. And so it wasn't a Mookie Blaylock. No, no,

732
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: not he was. It wasn't a star.

733
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: No, I task I will. I mean, you are a sickoh, but.

734
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: This will be very impressive. Don't call him Gerald, yeah, oh,

735
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: Damien almost Wilkins. Now, don't call him Gerald last Anderson.

736
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: There you go. So don't call him that, and don't

737
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: call him that Gerald Sea. Don't call him Alan Henderson either.

738
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: I remember may Allen a l A n right, that's right, yeah, right, yeah, yeah.

739
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Back when we gave it to players like Allan Henderson,

740
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: which is fine. I'm sure he was deserving. You have

741
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: to do a deep dive on the numbers. But anyway,

742
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: back to Dyson Daniels, the great barrier thief. He led

743
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: the league in steels three per game, highest average in

744
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: a season since Elvin Robertson in ninety ninety one. And

745
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: then Dyson Daniels averaged a career high fourteen point one

746
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: points per game, boosting a scoring average by eight point

747
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: three points per game. Then he had career highs and

748
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: boards and assists and gets this done in what really

749
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: wasn't that close a vote now in the end, I

750
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: thought it might be a little bit closer with him

751
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: and Kaid, but Daniels gets it.

752
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely felt like Caid was the front runner

753
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: for a long time, but I thought this was great

754
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: voting a third year guy one, And like you're saying,

755
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: he got legitimately better career highs and points, rebounds, assists, steals,

756
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: field goal percentage, three point percentage. The offense was a

757
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: big part of why he was able to stay on

758
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: the court and give the defense that he was showing

759
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: for the Pelicans and then took it to another level

760
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: this year. But the improvements on offense are probably what

761
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: made him into the player he was this season and

762
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: what won him this award. The guy who came in

763
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: second was a ninthier guy, into Vitza Zubots. I'm fine

764
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: with Cade finished in third. He did improve this season.

765
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: The Pistons definitely did. But he's starting as a number

766
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: one draft pick. You assume he's going to get better

767
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: over time. I think all the other guys who got

768
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: first place votes bone throws, These are all deserving guys too.

769
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Christian Brown, Austin Reeves, Evan Mobley, Aman Thompson, Denny Avdia,

770
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero, Josh Giddy snuck one in there right at

771
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 3: the end of the season. I think all of those

772
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: guys deserve getting a vote. So good stuff from the

773
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 3: voters on this one.

774
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Dyson Daniels I believe will have the most memorable

775
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: of seasons of these guys, and Okaid obviously has grown

776
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: incredibly well. We're just gonna remember CAD's career growing well

777
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: within these few years. Dyson Daniels made a name for

778
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: himself this season. I think that's clear. He just didn't

779
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: play enough in New Orleans at all. If two seasons there,

780
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: he was such a backup role. And he said it

781
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: after receiving this award that he It was just it

782
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: was very different for him and playing a lot of

783
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: minutes and starting and being prominent, and you'll remember a

784
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: lot of these great barrier thief sexy moments, I mean,

785
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: stealing it from Lebron James. There's so many moments. Would

786
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: he would just grab balls from guys, stopping Daron Fox

787
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: was trying to hit a game winner over him. He

788
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: did a lot of great things like that. But he

789
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: grew offensively. Yeah, he definitely became a different player with

790
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: the spins he had. He grew there shooting the three

791
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: where he improved a little bit there as well. Not

792
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: quite the average NBA three point shooter, but yeah, he

793
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: became a new player. So there's that. I think part

794
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: of it was just playing. This was a guy who somehow, somehow,

795
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: the guy who was able to trade for him and

796
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: grab him from New Orleans got fired Lanfrey Fields. That's

797
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: a great trade. What a trade to trade Johntaymurray for

798
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: this guy and picks. So it's a little weird. I

799
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: think that a number three guy would get it. And

800
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: I know he's grown, He's grown since freaking playing the

801
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Olympics last year. For Australia. He looks way better, but

802
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: it's partly a number three year guy. I think if

803
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Eat Zubats could have could have been given it.

804
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Number nine, that Kate Cunningham didn't win it, because that's

805
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: the way this award has been going for the last

806
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: couple of seasons. When you look at the winners, and

807
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a guy that like is good and

808
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: then turns into an All Star. And that's what Kay did, right.

809
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: It was Tyrese Maxi last season, Lowry markin in the

810
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: year before that, John Morant the year before that, Julius

811
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Randall the year before that, Brandon Ingram year before that.

812
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: Like those five guys in that season where they won MIP,

813
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: they sort of like leveled up and became an All Star.

814
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: And that's what Kay did, like he was putting Kate

815
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: put up numbers like that. Only seven guys in history

816
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: have done twenty five points, nine assists, six boards. And

817
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: then obviously the Pistons had a lot of team success

818
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: too in tripling up their win total in an eighty

819
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: to two game season. So like the biggest knock on

820
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: Kaid is like the guy went number one, Like that's

821
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: the knock like it's a player of his pedigree sort

822
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: of supposed to take that leap and turn into like

823
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: an All Star, and that's sort of maybe why he

824
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: lost this. I got no issue with Daniel's winning or

825
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: Zubots if he had won, But Daniels is just the

826
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: third player over the last decade to win Most Improved

827
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: in a season where he wasn't a first time All Star.

828
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: Pascal siakam in twenty eighteen nineteen, which you sort of

829
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: forget because then he was an All Star of the

830
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: next season, spicp was, and then CJ McColl in fifteen sixteen.

831
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: He won MIP but he didn't win, wasn't an All

832
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: Star that season. Everybody else is, so that's it just

833
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: sort of went back to maybe it sort of went

834
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: back to the Allen Henderson type days a little bit

835
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: where Daniel's exceeded expectations, maybe not being a superstar but

836
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: helped out by all the steals. Way, for sure, it's

837
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: better this. I agree, better this way, I agree. I

838
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: agree it was it was turning into, as we said,

839
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: like a weird.

840
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: Like MVP junior.

841
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah sort of yeah, it's like, well you're not winning MVP,

842
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: but here here, here's MIP because we know you're now

843
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: a good player. But anyway, Daniels gets it done. I

844
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: liked what he said after last night. I really believe

845
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: I could win this award twice because I know I

846
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: have so much more left in me to show this league.

847
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: I loved it because you guys remember might remember when

848
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: Siaka won his first Most Improved. The next season, my

849
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: weird prediction was I think he could go back to back,

850
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: and it looked good for a couple of months, Spicy P.

851
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: Like I said, the next season, he turned into an

852
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: All Star. I think he got injured a little bit

853
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: as the season went on, and that sort of buzzed

854
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: to go back to back MP faded away. But I

855
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: guess Daniels would have to become a He'd have to

856
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: become a twenty point per game score in addition to

857
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: everything and shoot forty four from deep or something. It's

858
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: unlikely he's gonna do it, but I guess there is

859
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: room there because he's only a fourteen to fifteen point

860
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: per game score. You'd have to have another explosion. I

861
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna happen.

862
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Like I snuck in there, he looked way better than

863
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: what he did offensively in the Olympics last year, mere

864
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: months ago, so he could grow more. He looks like

865
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: a different player offensively, So we'll see. We'll see if

866
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: you can get he can boost those numbers. We'll see

867
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: how the three point shot develops. But you know, within

868
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: the paint again, ball handling, he got way better.

869
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the second round of the one series.

870
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: We know the last time Indiana advance beyond the first

871
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: round in consecutive seasons twenty thirteen to fourteen. Last time

872
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland did it without Lebron on the roster way back

873
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: in ninety two to ninety three. But here they are

874
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference semifinals. They're both there for the

875
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: second straight year, so somebody will be moving on to

876
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: a conference finals. Game one tips on Sunday, May fourth,

877
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: the perfect wedding gift for Matti. Oh. We're waiting on

878
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: what time that game will happen, depending on what happens

879
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: obviously with these few series that aren't wrapped up yet.

880
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: But we know what's happened in game one on Sunday,

881
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: so let's break it down. We'll make our predictions at

882
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: the end. One thing to watch for in Cavs Pacers

883
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: one four matchup.

884
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Points and they're both more points at the end of

885
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: the game.

886
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: That's something to watch for one of my main things.

887
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: There's lots that's a scoring that's gonna be happening. The

888
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Calves were awesome against a really good heat defense, shooting

889
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: that three ball in their four games, hitting almost twenty

890
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: threes per game. The Pacers are going to allow some

891
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: three to be made. That being said, they're also going

892
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: to score a lot of points, so there's points to

893
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: be had. As far as the Calves go, I mean,

894
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: they had the highest effective field goal percentage of any

895
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: team in any playoff series in NBA history. That's how

896
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: good they were. That's how efficient they were. That's how

897
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: much Donovan Mitchell allows the other guys to work. He

898
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: doesn't just take it upon himself. There was only one

899
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in this series where he had to be

900
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: a superstar. He did that, but he relied on everybody else.

901
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Dean Wade got in there and contributed. Everybody was contributing

902
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: on this team. That being said, as I said, the

903
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: Pacers were awesome too. I mean they had four players

904
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: shooting about forty percent from three. The conductor Tyrese Haliburton

905
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: is going to get them all involved, so simple points,

906
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of them, a lot of.

907
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: Points, simple points, simple points. That's a simple point. It's

908
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see these two offenses playing against

909
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: defenses that can actually play defense, because it's a major

910
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: step up in competition. I think for both of these teams,

911
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: the Calves faced zero resistance playing against Tyler Hero and

912
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat lightly more resistance maybe from the Bucks

913
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: for the Pacers, but they both of these teams lit

914
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: up their opponents in round one, and both the Calves

915
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: and the Pacers are better defensive teams than their opponents

916
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: from round one, so I think that is going to

917
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: be awesome. I cannot wait for this series. I want

918
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: to see who guards Tyre's Halliburton for Cleveland, because I

919
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: think Cleveland's defense definitely is better than Indiana, but the

920
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: matchups make a little bit more sense for Indiana. You

921
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: assume when the Calves have the ball, Mitchell will be

922
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: guarded by Nie Smith, Garland will be guarded by Nemhard.

923
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: Struce probably is where Halliburton is hiding, which means he

924
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: needs to deal with the screen navigation and stuff. But

925
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: that's an okay hiding place. But when the Pacers have

926
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: the ball, it's probably Struce on Halliburton as well, because

927
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have a guy who's really

928
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: cut out to guard him. Nemhard probably gets Garland as

929
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: his matchup. Nie Smith likely gets Mitchell as well. I

930
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: suppose Mitchell could try his hand with Halliburton. By doubt

931
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: they will do that stretches, Yeah, maybe for stretches. Certain

932
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: they'll switch and stuff. But the Pacers need Tyres Haliburton

933
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: to be the best player in this series if they're

934
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: going to win. They need him to hit his threes.

935
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: That was kind of the one spot of the game

936
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: where he wasn't excelling against the Bucks, only shot twenty

937
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: seven percent in their first round series. But if he's

938
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: able to be a twenty point per game score or

939
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: shoot the ball well from outside, along with the passing,

940
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: the assists, the ball control that he has, that's huge

941
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: for the Pacers. On the flip side, Like Donovan, Mitchell

942
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: could easily be the best player in this series. And

943
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: if he's the best guard of the four the three

944
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: All Star guards at least that are playing in this series,

945
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: I think that that means advantage Cleveland, but he's got

946
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: a much tougher matchup to deal with. Aaron Nesmith is

947
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: going to be all over this guy, pressing him from

948
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: ninety four feet. That's the strength of Nismith and Nemhar.

949
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: The ball pressure they bring really slows down teams like

950
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: the Calves, and the Calves are a precision offense. They

951
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: pass the ball. Everybody's moving, ball movement and player movement

952
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: as well. It's just going to be a lot tougher

953
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 3: for Cleveland.

954
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I love all that stuff. NBA dot Com says to

955
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: watch Donovan Mitchell in Game one for this reason. I

956
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: didn't know this until Cleveland's opener against Miami in the

957
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: first round. Only one player in NBA playoff history, Michael Jordan,

958
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: had ever strung together seven game one performances of thirty

959
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: plus points. Donovan Mitchell matched that when he went for

960
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: thirty plus against the Heat. So he has that string

961
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: of game ones going and I was like, wow, so

962
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: okay right away here, who will be able to slow

963
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: down Donovan Mitchell in Game one of this series against

964
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: the Pacers. Nie Smith, I think is gonna have a

965
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: big part of that. And then if you take anything

966
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: from the super small sample size of their regular season matchups.

967
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: And I say that because like two of the games

968
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: you could throw out, it was at the end of

969
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: the season, Cavs had wrapped up to the number one seed.

970
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: They weren't even playing their guys in the second half.

971
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: I think the Pacers rested everybody in one game, So

972
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: not really those ones, but the ones in January. Halliburton

973
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 2: did struggle with his shot against this team. Again, super

974
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: small sample size, but only twelve points per game, shot

975
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: forty two percent and only thirty percent from deep. And

976
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm with UTK. For them to pull off this upset

977
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: and advance to go to the conference finals again, Haliburton

978
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: has to look like he did in some of those

979
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: crazy good games against the Bucks, where he is that

980
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: twenty to twenty five point pre game score. In addition

981
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: to orchestrating the offense, he's got to look for a shot,

982
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: and those threes, he's got to hit them on a

983
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: fairly decent consistency.

984
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: I will say this about Donovan Mitchell. When he needed

985
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: to be the guy, he was relying on others to

986
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: pass in the ball. He didn't necessarily have to bring

987
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: it up every single time he was using Max Strew's

988
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: triple handoffs. He uses those other guys to get him going,

989
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: so it doesn't have to be just him Versusnesmith, right,

990
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, they're good at that. And he was

991
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: a monster in that fourth quarter. What game was that

992
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: Game two when he had seventeen points in that fourth

993
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: quarter when they needed him. So yes, the superstar level

994
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: here is Donovan Mitchell trying to get to his first

995
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: conference finals. We'll see if he can do it. I

996
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: assume he could.

997
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Good point X factors in this. It's funny because playoffs

998
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: historically are a time when those benches shortened. But these

999
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: two teams, man, they got deep rosters and they trust

1000
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: three or four guys both squads do it feels like

1001
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: in all INKSD So who you do pinpoint as an

1002
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: X factor in this?

1003
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, these teams have like pretty similar rosters, pretty similar

1004
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: styles of play, pretty similar like statistics on both sides

1005
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: of the ball, Like they're both good offenses, they're both

1006
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: good defenses. They go eight to nine deep depending on

1007
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: how it goes. It's going to be an awesome series.

1008
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: One guy that I'm looking at is Jared Allen, who

1009
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: I think could dominate this series. Inside. He's a much

1010
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: stronger player than Miles Turner. He does most of his

1011
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: damage inside. Cleveland is only thirteenth in offensive rebound rate,

1012
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: but Indiana's twentieth and defensive rebound rate. So not a

1013
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: huge part of the Cavs game crushing the offensive glass,

1014
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: but it could be if they need it. But on

1015
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: the flip side of it, Miles Turner is a good

1016
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: three point shooter. Could he stretch out Jared Allen and

1017
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: make him look a little out of his element defending

1018
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: on the perimeter. I think that's a question mark for Cleveland.

1019
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: And if that's the case, are they going to mobili

1020
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: as the only big in the lineup? And then it's

1021
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: like are we playing Hunter or are we playing Wade?

1022
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: Are they better than or are they able to hang

1023
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: with Siakam? That will be a question for the Caves.

1024
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: The answer and that's why Jared Allen to me is

1025
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: the X factor because we've seen him have series where

1026
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: he shoots seventy five percent from the field, dominant inside,

1027
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: and he basically ended Game four against the Heat before

1028
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: it even started, right like that wasn't a front court

1029
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: that could really hang with him, So I think he

1030
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: can dominate, and I think there's a world where he's

1031
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: not playing the minutes that he's used to and they

1032
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: have to go for a slightly smaller lineup that we

1033
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: saw have success for the Bucks against the Pacers as well.

1034
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you may see Mobile play five a lot and

1035
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: flashback to last year in the playoffs when he did

1036
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: against the Boston Celtics in round two. And they're all

1037
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. And Kenny Atkinson is fine doing that

1038
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: if that's needed. He's comfortable doing that, and that's why

1039
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: they got DeAndre Hunter. They got him to size up

1040
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, play the four if we need to switch.

1041
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: It's mainly looking forward to the Celtics if they get

1042
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: there in round three, but this will be a case

1043
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: where yeah, Mobi go up to the five. We'll bring

1044
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Dean Johntra or Dean Wade who contributed. Didn't score a lot,

1045
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: but that's okay, that's all he needed to do. So

1046
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to as far as the next

1047
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: factor goes. Besides Tyres Halburn, I think the Pacers, the

1048
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: often overlooked guy, are gonna need Pascal Siakam to play

1049
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: well against this huge team against Cleveland Cavalier so whether

1050
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: Mobley defends him, who is so freaking good at guarding

1051
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: twenty three feet away from the hoop. I think they're

1052
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: trying to get him sick on Pascal Siakam as much

1053
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: as possible, So we'll see Mobili just guarding him as

1054
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: much as possible just to get that hand up because

1055
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: he'll be able to stick with him laterally. I think

1056
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: that's a very important matchup for the Pacers, even though

1057
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: they do have an extreme amount of depth. As he said,

1058
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: so many guys that come through, but so do the calves.

1059
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about Dean Wade here.

1060
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean when you look at the benches, like

1061
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: the calves you already mentioned a lot of them. Hunter

1062
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: obviously could be huge in this game on both sides

1063
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: of the ball. Ty Jerome, of course, he's been amazing game. Yeah,

1064
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: and then you got the three white guys, which one

1065
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: of those guys is on fire from deep be it Struce,

1066
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: Sam maror Dean Wade, like, take your pick. They could

1067
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: be a difference maker in a game or a half

1068
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: in the series. And then the Pacers. Mathren obviously puts

1069
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: pressure on the rim. He has his ups and downs.

1070
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: TJ McConnell at times looked like he did last season

1071
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: in the postseason where he can take over and run

1072
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: the second unit. Obi Toppin I think sort of had

1073
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: a quiet first round, especially when you compare it to

1074
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: maybe what he was doing at the end of the

1075
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: regular season. But we know he's still trusted from Riccaralil.

1076
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: So there's a lot like what did I just listed?

1077
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: Like how many guys? Eight guys that really will I

1078
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be talking about in this series in

1079
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: certain times of the series because they're so deep and

1080
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: I think they trust their benches and like TK said,

1081
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: there's like they sort of match up nicely. So it

1082
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: might be in the fringes where this is one Well

1083
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: let's get to a prediction, then who's winning this? How

1084
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: many games? Tasks you get? It started?

1085
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Well, the question for the cleve Gotliers coming into this

1086
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: postseason was do they have the guts? I mean, they

1087
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: don't have the ability. They've never they've never been there before.

1088
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: It's the same sort of question for Okay, see, they're

1089
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: fairly young, they've never gone past the second round together.

1090
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Do they have the ability to get there? And I

1091
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: think we saw it against the Miami Heat. Game three

1092
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: was the key for me. When they went to Miami

1093
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: their first game, they show that they could put their

1094
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: foot on the pedal and try and win it without Carlin.

1095
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, without one of their best players.

1096
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do they have the focus of a good playoff team?

1097
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: I think that was clear they did, and I think

1098
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: combined with you know, the superstardom of Donovan Mitchell, their depth,

1099
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: their size, the defense, which is better than the Pacers defense,

1100
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: although it's not, you know, a top five defense, I

1101
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: think that's enough. I'll take the Caves in six.

1102
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm excited for this series. This is a this

1103
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: is the League Pass series. You had to be watching

1104
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: League Pass to see how good the Pacers were the

1105
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: second half of the season. The Calves definitely got more buzzed.

1106
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's kind of been muted because

1107
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: they were so good the early part of the season

1108
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: starting fifteen, and now that they kind of there's the

1109
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: Saint sustained success kind of just fell by the wayside

1110
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: because it was like, Okay, yeah, we know the Caves

1111
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: are good. Then they had their blowout series against the Heat.

1112
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: Didn't really learn much from that one, except for that

1113
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 3: the Caves are still good, so I think it's exciting

1114
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: to see this one. Both teams have continuity, like went

1115
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: through the playoffs with their same squads last year, great rotations,

1116
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: great matchups. This is gonna be awesome. The step up

1117
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: in competition, I think is going to be awesome in

1118
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: game one to see, like going against real defenses, there's

1119
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: going to be a question mark for both of these teams.

1120
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: Can the Pacers hit enough freese to keep up with

1121
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: the Cavs is a question I have. I'll go with

1122
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: a Cavaliers in seven, okay to win this one.

1123
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: To circle back to your first point to start off

1124
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: this previews like things to watch for points because there

1125
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: should be a lot of them. Obviously. The flip side

1126
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: of that is who plays better defensively overstretches, because maybe

1127
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: that's all it takes over a four or five minute

1128
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: stretch to win these games. And that's why I can't

1129
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: wait to see, because I think the Caves do have

1130
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: better individual defenders, but the Pacers sort of as a

1131
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: group unit, and especially when you have Nemharn and Ni Smith.

1132
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: I like them and what we've seen from them over

1133
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: the last couple of months, so I can't wait. I do.

1134
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: I do love that, Like it feels like it's a

1135
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: disappointing season if either of these teams loses right here,

1136
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 2: because the Calves, of course they win sixty four games,

1137
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: and like you said, Mitchell's never even been in the

1138
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: conference finals, Like, if they lose this, there'll be a

1139
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: disappointing season for sure. The Pacers, I mean they went

1140
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: there last year. They got some lucky breaks in terms

1141
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: of injuries against their opponents, but like they're using that

1142
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: for fuel, Like, yo, you think it was like we

1143
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: just like fell into that, but we're gonna we want

1144
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: to show you that. It's like we're actually much better

1145
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: than that, and we're healthy now and we got our squad.

1146
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: So like, I don't know if they'll feel as disappointed

1147
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: if they don't advance, but I think there would be

1148
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: because they got their last year. It be a step back.

1149
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: So I love it ultimately, though I'm going Cavaliers in six,

1150
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 2: so I'm the same as you. So we're all taking

1151
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: the Calves in the end. No one going Pacers. But

1152
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: that's what I'm sure Indie fans want to hear that

1153
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: bulletin board.

1154
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Our man Ash chimed In also a Calves in six six.

1155
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, eighty three percent of the stream team saying Calves.

1156
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, wow, okay, that's hire Maybe than I thought,

1157
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: but we obviously think it's going to be a competitive

1158
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: and long series. Let's hear from you though, in the

1159
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: stream team and obviously in the YouTube comments. Things to

1160
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: watch for, X factors, other things we've missed that you're

1161
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: excited about when it comes to this one, which tips

1162
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: on Sunday. All right, that's it. Two more games on tonight.

1163
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: Two.

1164
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Game six is Nicks at Pistons. We're back in the

1165
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: pizza box seven thirty on TNT. Nick's trying to put

1166
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: this series to bed. Obviously, Pistons want to get it

1167
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: back to Madison Square Garden for a game seven. And

1168
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: then we got Nuggets in LA. They're in the Into

1169
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: It Dome and they're trying to wrap up their series.

1170
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: Clippers want to force a game seven in Denver. So

1171
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: that's the second game on TNT. Any any quick predictions.

1172
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like, I don't know, flip

1173
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: a coin sort of in these games tonight could go

1174
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: either way. But where you going, TK.

1175
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

1176
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: I think, how many Game sevens from these two tonight

1177
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: do we end up getting zero? One or two?

1178
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: Two?

1179
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, I don't know. Pistons and Clips at home

1180
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 3: wantsome Game sevens. Okay, I know that's what Matt wants

1181
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: for his his wedding weekend watching basketball together.

1182
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll go back the curtain here all of

1183
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: us tomorrow. We're gonna do a show tomorrow. We'll talk

1184
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: about these games tonight, but then at a certain point

1185
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow we're all getting on a plane to fly to

1186
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: Montreal for Maddio's wedding, which we're going to be in

1187
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: Montreal all weekend. We actually won't have a show on

1188
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: Monday because the wedding's on Sunday. But yeah, we might

1189
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: be watching a lot of basketball with a lot of

1190
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: our friends up there, which is fine.

1191
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: Saturday would be both games seven. Clippers Denver and Detroit,

1192
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: New York would both be said, Hey, we don't got

1193
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: much on the dock at that's a perfect time. I

1194
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: think we got a little ideal, a little rehearsal at night.

1195
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: So Jean's in the top calling for jeans at the top.

1196
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 2: Wow, really casual on top, So jeans and a top

1197
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: to this wedding dress rehearsal. Then we definitely can somebody

1198
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: can be watching the game on their phone, if not

1199
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: at the bar, who knows.

1200
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he love that. Hey, can you turn on

1201
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: the best? Hold on? Hold on?

1202
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: What are the Canadian still alive in the playoffs? NHL playoffs?

1203
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: I think they got bounced last night.

1204
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I might work in our favor

1205
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: then get them off the screens and capitals capitals beat them?

1206
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: So what are What does the top mean? Or is

1207
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: tank top? You can't?

1208
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just have to wear top. You guys want

1209
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: to wear basketball?

1210
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Literally literally, it's in the name a top a

1211
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: tank top? Yeah, why not? I do think we're gonna

1212
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: get some games. I think we're gonna get both. I

1213
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: don't think the Pistons can lose at home every single

1214
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: game this series. I hope that they're handing out six

1215
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: inch pizza pies to everybody for Game six in the

1216
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Little Caesars Arena. Why not? It makes sense, or at

1217
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: least have a deal. Maybe not handing out anyways, got

1218
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: to have good pizza deals.

1219
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: Do you think both go?

1220
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: Wow?

1221
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think that one is the question whether

1222
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: or not the Knicks can seal it. I have faith

1223
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: in the Clippers. I have faith in the Clippers to

1224
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: do it.

1225
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm going to say the Knicks wrap it

1226
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: up tonight in Detroit. Uh, just because I had Nixon six.

1227
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: So I want that prediction to come true. And I

1228
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: gotta say the Nuggets. I had Nuggets and seven, being

1229
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: one of the lone guys to go with Denver. So

1230
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: I need the Clippers to win tonight, and I think

1231
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: they will. I think we've got a Game seven in

1232
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: that series.

1233
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: A lot of people are staying Big Harden game tonight.

1234
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: Oh come on, Okay, he always shows up in the clutches.

1235
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Is had some Game six? Is if I am actually know?

1236
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: It was the game five a couple of years ago.

1237
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll see, we'll see those games on TN. T

1238
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: will be here. Well, no, we won't be in the

1239
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: Classic Factory. We will be in the yard tomorrow morning

1240
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 2: with esh JD's getting on a plane at like nine o'clock.

1241
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: He's gotta get to Montreal two days before a wedding.

1242
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1243
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: He's doing a sight visit, making sure the TV is

1244
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: Saturday's Game seven.

1245
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's being smart you're being smart, so thank you.

1246
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: Ash will be with us in the yard to talk

1247
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: about these games.

1248
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys at dinner. I'll be holding down

1249
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: the table while you're running from the part directly to

1250
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: the restaurant.

1251
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. We gotta quick turn around. I'd love

1252
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: to stop by the hotel if we can drop offers.

1253
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, which I we can. I can't wait

1254
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: to see in Montreal. JD.

1255
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 3: Actually you know what. I can't wait to.

1256
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: See it later today for a brand new No Bus podcast.

1257
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, Episode ten of Survivor last night, will

1258
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: break it down TKJD, Nora and myself no buffstat link

1259
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: is in the show notes. Come over and join us

1260
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: live on YouTube or download and listen to the podcast.

1261
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: We'll see at one pm Easter for that, we'll see

1262
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: you at I think we're saying nine to thirty tomorrow morning.

1263
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: We're gonna start a little earlier tomorrow morning. We got

1264
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: flights to catch to Montreal, so we'll see in the

1265
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: yard break down these games tonight. Fill that Clipper bros.

1266
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: JD's already on.

1267
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: Here at first. Have a great time, turn up. Love

1268
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: you guys awesome.

1269
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us and remember nine thirty tomorrow. Set

1270
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: your alert, set your notifications. Also, James Harden had a

1271
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: big game in Game four a couple of years ago.

1272
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Is what I was thinking again for Boston Celtics. It

1273
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: ain't coming today. Also, Canada basketball hiring our man Gordy Herbert.

1274
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Good Gordon, he was coach of Germany.

1275
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: He's good.

1276
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: They won a World Cup yea fourth last year. Front

1277
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: him home and sure were buds. Congrats the Gordy Herbert.

1278
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: We got the most Canadian man when they hired Gordy

1279
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: house Herbert. Baby Gordy. His full name is Gordon. He's

1280
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: just going yeah, good Gord.

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Speaker 2: Almighty people