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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the face of the NBA in the

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Speaker 1: next two years. I'm gonna give you Jaw, Luca Trey Young,

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. It'll be between LaMelo Ball and Jaw if

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Speaker 1: they're LaMelo Ball can get to Lala Layer because I

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Speaker 1: think he's built for that. Yes, like he has that personality,

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Speaker 1: can be that face all my life, running all my life,

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Speaker 1: dice swad all my life. I've been running all my life,

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Speaker 1: all my life, and running all my life, sacrifice, hustle, beg, pricing,

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Speaker 1: been running all my life. Hello, welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of Club Shay. I am your whole Shannon Sharp. I'm

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Speaker 1: also the proprietor of Club sha Shay and the guy

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Speaker 1: that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today because

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Speaker 1: a seven time All Star, a seven time All NBA selection,

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Speaker 1: His government name is Tracy McGrady. We all know him

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Speaker 1: as T Mac. T Mac. What's up, brother, I'm good brother.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to be on your platform. Man, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on today. How are you doing. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: good man. You know, I've been retired for about nine

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Speaker 1: ten years now, four kids, married. I'm loving life, bro.

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Speaker 1: And what's crazy is I'm more busier now than when

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Speaker 1: I was actually playing ball. Yeah, we kids. Of course

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Speaker 1: all over the place every weekend. I am gone. So

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Speaker 1: she's the oldest. My youngest is twelve. So I got nineteen, sixteen, fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and thirteen. Two boys, two girls. Oh that's that's great. Congratulations. First,

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Speaker 1: let me congratul let your own your business venture. You

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Speaker 1: started a league. It's called OBL one Basketball League. First,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you what made you decide to start

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Speaker 1: your own league and watch this format? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: one on one fighting you talk about tennis, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't have one on one. Right, we have we

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Speaker 1: have underground leagues, but we don't have a major platform

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Speaker 1: to identify. There's a lot of untapped talent out here.

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Speaker 1: Everybody can't make it to the NBA, right, everybody can

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Speaker 1: get that call to go and play overseas and make

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Speaker 1: one hundred, you know, so a half a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to give guys an opportunity here in

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Speaker 1: the States, give them that platform. And some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably had something to it, you know alone

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Speaker 1: their journey where they deviated off the course, made the

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Speaker 1: and they didn't get the opportunity through their dream. I

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Speaker 1: want to offer that dream. So I'm looking to create stars,

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Speaker 1: tell their stories and take this thing global. Do you

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Speaker 1: think one of these guys are because obviously one on

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Speaker 1: one players. Do you think your platform will allow some

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Speaker 1: don't have college eligibility. So I'm not. I don't want

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Speaker 1: NBA players, Okay, I mean I don't want NBA. Don't

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Speaker 1: want retire NBA guys. No't retired NBA guys. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no no no no. Say sharp, there's some guys

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Chicago, New York, dm V LA, the Bay

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Speaker 1: Areas with the finals in Vegas. Now, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: three winners from each city. Correct, Those three guys in

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Speaker 1: get next year. Bro. But you know, I look at this,

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Speaker 1: Who was the UFC fighters before they got on that platform? Correct?

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Speaker 1: And then they became this character and became you know,

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Speaker 1: don't know what we used to have a game. We

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Speaker 1: here's here's what I don't want to happen though, Shay.

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Speaker 1: it into a hype class. Yeah, ok, yeah, we gonna

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Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't a great contest. T Mack. When

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Speaker 1: did when did T mac happen? I mean, obviously you

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Speaker 1: it's really just taking a leap of faith, you know

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Speaker 1: becoming local heroes, local celebrities, if you will, right, So

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Speaker 1: m J didn' shoot threes like that. So Kobe took

424
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: it upon and and and added the three balls to

425
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: this game because that's where the game evolved too. But

426
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: skill was I mean, the moves, the footwork, he had it.

427
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: He had it all. You Kobe on a one on

428
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: one battle. Do you believe anybody could beat Kobe on

429
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: a one on one battle. Let's just say end up

430
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: prime m J and Kobe one on one? Who you taking?

431
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: I think? And I'm putting myself in there. Oh you okay,

432
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: I would throw you in there. I put myself in there.

433
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: I think if you play pen games it'll be five five,

434
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: maybe to be six four one, but I don't think

435
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: it'll be you know, eight two or seven three or

436
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm gonna puss up. Okay, we're gonna play.

437
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna play a series of five. You get Kobe

438
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: five times, you get MJ five times, Kobe, MJ. What's

439
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: it gonna be? Is it gonna be three two? If it?

440
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: If it gonna be if? I mean it's gonna be

441
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: three oh, I mean, what what it gonna be? I listen,

442
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: I can sit here and say it'd be three oh

443
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: three three two. I mean that's it's hyper. I don't

444
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: know what that it'll never happened. But all I know

445
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: is it'll be a damn good show. It'll be a

446
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: damn good show that people would definitely wanted too. Then

447
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: too well, people, it was trendy t mac versus Tracy McGrady,

448
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: because you're one of the first big guys lender guys

449
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: six foot seven, could handle the ball, could shoot the three,

450
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: pull up on the mid raid, but you got all

451
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: the way to the rim. You're looking to poster ride people.

452
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: Absolutely that my thing was, And I was telling my

453
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: kids this weekend because we had au tournament in Indiana

454
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: and our first game we played against the tallest teenager

455
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: in the world. He was seven six get out of Canada. Man,

456
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: I was telling my kids because they're like, oh my gosh,

457
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: he's so tall, he's gonna block everything. I say, Man,

458
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to dunk on him if I was

459
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: y'all were you talking about, But it couldn't be me

460
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: because I'll be trying to put him on the ground

461
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: bat right, So like that, their mentality is totally different.

462
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, my my thing was, bro, if you in

463
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: a way, I'm gonna try to go through you, over

464
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: top of you. Right. The playoffs started, obviously the Knicks,

465
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: the Knicks, the Nets played KD Kyrie. Are they the

466
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: most skilled of teammates that we've ever seen, without a doubt?

467
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: What out of the shadow of a doubt, I haven't

468
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: seen a pair a duo that's skilled. Mike and Pip.

469
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: But Pip ain't have no offensive game like that. Jordan

470
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: had the offensive game, No, but Pip did though. That's that.

471
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: Pip did have offensive game, but Mike was just so

472
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: Mike was so great. I mean Pip did was twenty points. Now, yeah,

473
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: you know he was the All Star Game MVP. Uh.

474
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: The year Mike left, he finished in the top five

475
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: MVP voting. But when I'm talking about you look at

476
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: what Kyrie, how Kyriek and David Rugget, and you look

477
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: at Katie. You mentioned Katie self foot tall from the

478
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: three points all the way to the rim, can do

479
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: it all. Pimp ain't got that had had it in

480
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: the bag. He doesn't. But I mean that's the only

481
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: thing I can go off of, though I can't. There's

482
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: no other dynamic duo that compares to Katie and Kyrie.

483
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, even if you look at what Lebron and

484
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: d Wade was skill wise, they're still not touching him too. Boys, right,

485
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: even if even if I would have played with Grant Hill,

486
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. If g Hill and myself, I think

487
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: it would have been a challenge. But you got two

488
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: six eight guys that can handle. I can shoot. G

489
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: Hill had a mid range post game, can pass, can

490
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: see the floor. You know what I mean. I'm glad

491
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: you brought up Grant Hill. Do you think about what

492
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: it could have been had he not suffered the ankle

493
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: injury because he played on that bump ankle in Detroit

494
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: and we never and people don't know, we were robbed

495
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: of an opportunity to see grand Hell in his in

496
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: his true glory. We were robbed of seeing greatness. Ge

497
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: Hill was such a great talent, such a cerebral player. Man,

498
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: he had it all, bro And it's just it was

499
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: just unfortunate that we never got the opportunity to play

500
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: with each other consistently because of that ankle. And I know,

501
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: deep down in my heart if he was healthy, I

502
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: would have competed for a championship my years in our land. Up. Wow,

503
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, how much will he help the nest? Because

504
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: we know Kyrie and Kadi gonna be kd and Kyrie.

505
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: We know what they're gonna But what what does Simmons

506
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: add to the to the recipe? Lemon's add an elements

507
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: to their team that they're missing right now. And that's defensively, right.

508
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: That kid can guard one through five, and with him

509
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: being out so long, he could come in right now

510
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: and have an impact on their team because he can

511
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: play defense. He doesn't have to shoot the ball because

512
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: he has two killers on that that's gonna do all

513
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: the scoring for them, along with some of the other

514
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: guys that they have set courage, the Patty Mills that

515
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: can shoot. But the impact that he can have on

516
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: guarding you know, whoever the other team's best players, whether

517
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: he's a guard, whether he's a powerful it doesn't matter.

518
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Put Ben Simmons on here. He would neutralize that and

519
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: it will make them a much better defensive team. That's

520
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: what they're missing. You do realize I'm bringing help off

521
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. Whoever guarding Ben Simmons, Kyrie gives the ball,

522
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: go double. If Katie gives the ball, I won't get

523
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: bother Ben Simmons. But listen what you're saying though, Yes,

524
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: you are going to double off of You're gonna double

525
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: off of Ben Simmons, ye, right, and and help on

526
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: a Kyrie yep, Katie? Yes? So that means so that

527
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: means you're gonna He's Ben Simmons, who is a very

528
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: smart basketball player who could pass the ball, yes, and

529
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: and leave Kadie one in a one on one situation.

530
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: If you're gonna double Kyrie, what is not a smart

531
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: thing to do. But here's the thing that we know.

532
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: We saw what Atlanta did to Ben Simmons, or if

533
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: he if he where he needs to be mentally. I

534
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: know what he can be. But I thought what he

535
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: was last year at the end where he became unplayable

536
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: because of the free throw and in his he being

537
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: afraid to shoot the basketball team mat that's that's that's fair.

538
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: That's fair because we don't know. I mean, the kid

539
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: has been out all season. We don't know where he

540
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: is mentally. I'm hoping with him being out for so long,

541
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: when he does step foot on the court, that he's

542
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: healthy mentally and ready to go because he has a

543
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: lot to proofs, right, he really doesn't and I think

544
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: you know he's going to do that because I actually

545
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: like his game last year. I don't know. We don't

546
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: know what was going on with the kid off the court.

547
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Something was bothering him because I've never seen him play

548
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: that way. Right, how did you how did you like

549
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: that situation? Because I felt it was unfair. I mean

550
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: with Doc what Doc said, and then Joe ellen Be

551
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: said that, you know, the game turned on, we had

552
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: a date lay up and we end up missing a

553
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: free throw, and I felt there was no coming back

554
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: from that team. Mack once he undered that I remember

555
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: coming on the should the next morning, I said, they're

556
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: not coming back from this. Ben Simmons is gonna ask

557
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: for trade, and sure enough, Yeah, he was thrown under

558
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: the bus. It was just an unfortunate situation that you know,

559
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: they looked at him on that particular play and then

560
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 1: it really just gave fuel to the media and they

561
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: read that and it, like you said, there was no

562
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: coming back in Philadelphia. You know, Philly wasston Philly fans

563
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: is on you. And when next series was over, I

564
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: said to my friends and family, I said, Ben Simmons

565
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: cannot go back to Philadelphia. Nope, it is not a

566
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: good look. They gotta trade that young man and get

567
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: him out of there, because it's not gonna be a

568
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: good look for him if he was the star that season,

569
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: because they was gonna boo him and it was gonna

570
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: get up and it was really really gonna be mentally

571
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: tough for him to to be engaged and you know,

572
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: competing at a high level for that organization where they

573
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: trade James Harden, he leaves Brooklyn, he goes to Philly.

574
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Philly trades Ben Simmons. How far do you think James

575
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: Harden and Joel Embiid can go. I actually think that

576
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: was a bad trade. Wow, I think it's a bad trade.

577
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: I think Brooklyn won that trade. I think Joel was

578
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: in such a groove and that team was in such

579
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: a groove. Yet now, James Harden is a dynamic scorer

580
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: and a playmaker, no doubt about that. But it seems

581
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: like to me, he's on, he's slowing down, he can't

582
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: really get by his defender no more. I don't know

583
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know if he's hurting, but

584
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: he just he doesn't look the same to me. I

585
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: just thought they had such great chemistry before the trade,

586
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: to where Joel finally got in great shape to where

587
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: he could finish out games and take over games. He's

588
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: surrounded by a guy like Seth Curry who can shoot.

589
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: I think the missing element out of that team is

590
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris like he has. If you're gonna give him

591
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: a hundred and something million dollars, Bro, you gotta elevate

592
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: your game. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Why we

593
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: gotta trade, Why we gotta go and get a guy

594
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: like James Harden? Where we paying you one hundred million

595
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: dollars a max player? Right? You're a max player like

596
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: Fiel that role for us. But our big man is

597
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: doing his job. We have shooting right. You're the one

598
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars player, who's your MVP this season? That's

599
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: tough because you got well and bid that did what

600
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: he did led the league of scoring, the first big

601
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: to do that since Shaq in two thousand. You got

602
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Nicola Jokers. He's the first man in history to get

603
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: two thousand points and fives and rebounds five hundred and six.

604
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: You got Yannis Yannis was Yannis thirty twelve and five.

605
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: You got Devin Booker. He was the best player on

606
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: the best team. Way way, ye MVP. I gotta go

607
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: with Joker. I gotta go with Joker. I gotta go

608
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: with Joker man. That dude, uh, he's something special. He

609
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: did something special. Bro. The man can't jump over a

610
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: dollar bill, but man the pass and the rebounded I

611
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: foot he brings to that team. He doesn't have Michael

612
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Porter Junior or Jamal Murray correct and those boys still

613
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: winning there in the sixth sixteed, I have to credit him.

614
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: But Joel Embiid where he came out the gates. Can

615
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: it be a Cohen bt? No good? I don't know

616
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: if if I don't think we've had cold Rookies of

617
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: the Year with j V in the Grand Hill, but

618
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they've ever been cod MVPs. Well,

619
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: this year they have to make an exception because it

620
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: needs to be one this year because those two, those

621
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: two boys right there, they did their thing this year, man,

622
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: and I need I wish both of them would get credited,

623
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: you know. And I hate that I got to choose

624
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: one and leave the other. I would go with Joker.

625
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: And you know, somebody getting left off, left off first

626
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: team all the NBA two because they played the same position.

627
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: Somebody getting left out, Yes, sir, yes, sir. You look

628
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: at Lebron. You want two scoring titles? Lebron Jay was

629
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: in position to win a scoring title. Do you fault

630
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: him for not going for it or do you believe

631
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: he should have gone for it? No? No, what No,

632
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: Lebron has so much, so many accomplishments on his resume.

633
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to chase that. That's benef really, and

634
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: you know his team is missing the playoffs. What am

635
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: I playing? What am I playing for? I don't need

636
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: to play for a scoring title, not at all. Are

637
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: you surprised? The brun doesn't played for that right and

638
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: had he because he says, well, I don't play for staffs,

639
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: I don't chase staffs. I try to play the game

640
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: the right way. Well that would have been the wrong

641
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: way because to try to win the scoring type that

642
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: means you have to take a try to take a

643
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: get a lot of shots and you're probably not gonna pass.

644
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: You can become what you're not, which if he the

645
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: pass first guy that can score and then he's like,

646
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna score first, Now I pass later. Yeah,

647
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: now you know what I really this year, I really

648
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: love watching the bron play. Now I'm a fan of

649
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: Bronze and a phenomenal player, but it was just something

650
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: about his game this year to where I look like,

651
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I said, damn, man, if what I'm seeing how a

652
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: dude and some of the moves that he was making

653
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: this year, if he had developed that earlier in his career, man,

654
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: look at here, look at here, bro he I mean,

655
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: he was already scary with them to add some some

656
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: some more into his bag, because it it's crazy that

657
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: this man is at his bag has gotten deeper in

658
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: year nineteen. But that's that's what's so amazing. I don't

659
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: think people give enough credit. He's in year nineteen with

660
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: all those miles on, all those minutes of mouths, on

661
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: those legs, and he gave you thirty in your nineteen

662
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: at thirty seven, when he gave you thirty at twenty one,

663
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: the youngest and the oldest. How impressive is that? I

664
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: salute dude. We all should be appreciative, appreciative of watching

665
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: dude play. Man. We're all gonna miss him, you know.

666
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: I was. I played against him j but I was

667
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: sad when he left. But man, I'm gonna be sad

668
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: when Broun go because I just love watching dude play.

669
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: He's just he's so fun to watch, you know, whether

670
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: it's it's scoring, it's happening, just how he he creates

671
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: an environment around his team that it just looks fun

672
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, right, right, this year

673
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't it wasn't like that. Yeah, what

674
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: happened this year? What happened with the lacol? Why didn't

675
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: it work? Because you got old players, bro that you

676
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: went out and got these old guys that if they

677
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: would have made it to the playoffs, I think they

678
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: would have been a problem, right, because that's what they

679
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: were built for. But you can't go and get these

680
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: these older guys and think, you know, they're gonna play

681
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: thirty something minutes for eighty two game seats and and

682
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: and think they're gonna hold up defensively is where they struggled,

683
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: because it's one thing. If you got defensive guys that

684
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: used to play defense, it is hard because Trevor Reason

685
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: didn't fit in the chair anymore. Every brandy can have first,

686
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: but he can't do it. But when you get thirty

687
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: seven year old Carmelo and you get these guys that

688
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: they've never played deep ends and now you're asking asking

689
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: them to do something they've never done and they're older. Yeah,

690
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: you're you're you put you put guys in a situation

691
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: that they had to garnish a lot a lot of

692
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: minutes and be consistent at doing something that they really

693
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: wasn't good at. Right right now that the older you

694
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: ask these guys to do, that's that's not gonna work. Right.

695
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: What advice if you could have given Russ some advice,

696
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: what advice would you have given him how to have

697
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: because you know it seemed like he was very confrontational

698
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: with the media. They asked him a question and he's like, well,

699
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: what did you see? Will tell me what I should

700
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: have done? You know what I'm saying. It seemed like

701
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: I just felt that he didn't accept responsible accountability for

702
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: some of the things that were going on. I'm not

703
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: saying he's the soul blame of why the Lakers underperformed,

704
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: but he didn't. Look maybe he did. Maybe that's Russ.

705
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Maybe we have a magnifying glass on him because he's

706
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: playing with the Lakers. Maybe because there's more expectations where

707
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: there's no expectations in no case Houston and Washington. Well,

708
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: I think with Russ, I think a lot of what

709
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: happens to him this year, in terms of like the

710
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: negative clublicity and the negative right ups about him, I

711
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: think he contributed to that. Yes, And I think when

712
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: he was going through his bad, bad spells of of plan,

713
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I think he should have just kept his head down

714
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: and you know, just really just said the right thing,

715
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: just really talk about, you know, put on it on itself.

716
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm not playing well right now. I'm in the gym working,

717
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, working on my shot. I'm talking to Lebron

718
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: trying to figure this thing out. I'm working hard every

719
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: day to try to get out of this. You know,

720
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I want to come up out of this. I mean,

721
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: you're playing for the Lakers, yes you were. You're on

722
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: the biggest platform every single night, and you're playing with

723
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Lebron on top of that, so everything is magnified. But

724
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: I think when you're on the defensive side and then

725
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: you're trying to then you say that you don't have

726
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: any expectations when you're playing for the Lakers. Now, now

727
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: you've opened up a whole can of something that you

728
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: don't want. And I think he just should have been,

729
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, saying that he was working on his game

730
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: to get better, to come out of the phone, talking

731
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: to Lebron, and doing whatever he could to get back

732
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: on track. If he was to take that role, I think,

733
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of that negative press would have

734
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: been suppressed. Yeah, you can't say you don't have expectations

735
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: when you play with When you look at the lineage

736
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: that they got from Mike and to Will, to Kareem,

737
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to Magic Worthy, shot Kobe at Baylor. Ruh, they got

738
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: seventeen titles. That's all Lakers. You know, if the expectations

739
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: if titles. Yeah, but I know, listen, man, I think

740
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff on Russ was unfair as well.

741
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about a dude that average a

742
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: triple double for three straight years, Like this dude is

743
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer, Like he didn't have a

744
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: good year, but he's been in the league, what sports

745
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: fifteen years or something like that, Like, come on, Matt,

746
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: we can't we can't do him like that team mat

747
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: you played. You know, you got update your refume. That's

748
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: what you got to do with sports. Now, now what

749
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: you did two years ago? And what how did they help?

750
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: How did that triple double helping the Lakers? Right now

751
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm listening, I get that. I didn't think it was

752
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: a match for that team anyway. No, when they made

753
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: me great, I didn't think it was a good match, right.

754
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were thinking. I just felt

755
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: like Russ has to have his own team. He has

756
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: to have and thank you, but it needs you. Watch.

757
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: He could go to a team like Orlando where they

758
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: have no expectations and the eyes are not gonna be

759
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: on him on a nightly basis, and he'll average a

760
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: triple double. Your average triple double and he'll take that

761
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. Yes, yes, absolutely, But when you

762
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: because when you look like hold on ye Man, Russ

763
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: had ten or sis Man he had nine turnovers? Us Russ,

764
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: you inefficient, Bro, you're shooting thirty. You gotta stop shooting three. Russ,

765
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: you're shooting twenty eight percent. But you gotta understand who

766
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Russ is. A A strong will, strong minded like dude

767
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: that he wants to prove. Like when when people are

768
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: saying stuff about him, I sense that he's a guy

769
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: that wants to show up and improve. Everybody wrong right,

770
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: and he just kept forcing the issue right and it

771
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: never really turned for him. Lebron's said the current players

772
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: he would like to play with most, it's Steph Curry

773
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: t Mac When he was playing who would be the

774
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: one player you would want to play with? This trick question?

775
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: That really shot? I mean who else? Well, you're right,

776
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: I thought you know what I thought you might say. Man,

777
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: you know what, it had been nice to play with

778
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: cold Man shot, Bro, that is the number one choice. Always, Yes,

779
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to play with cold Bush.

780
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: Come on, man, the shot was so dominant, Bro, So yeah,

781
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I never got a chance to see

782
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Shot play in person. Explain to our viewers and listeners

783
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: at home, when Shot got the ball on the block,

784
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: what would be like? It ain't good luck, y'all, I

785
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: hold your grown man look Shot. And I forgot who

786
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: said that. Somebody said, I think kg Ship said that

787
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: Shot was raised right because Shot could have punished and

788
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: he did punish people. But I'm talking about even on

789
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: a on a whole nother level to where I think

790
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: Shot could have averaged thirty five and forty points a game.

791
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: Like That's how dumbinant I think Shot could have been.

792
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: If he was like really nasty and you know, just

793
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: wanted to do that. I don't he didn't have to

794
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: because of you know what he has surrounded him. But

795
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: he was. I this dude was strong. He had big hands,

796
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: strong hands. I remember I learned my lesson playing against

797
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: Shot because when we when we played against it, obviously

798
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: we had to double team. So I was one of

799
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: the guys that will go down and try to double

800
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: team when he has the ball and we'll go on

801
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: double team on the pounce, right. So I went one

802
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: time and tried to double team Shock, but he was

803
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: in a shooting motion coming up and I tried to

804
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: knock down the ball out of his hand and bro

805
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: I about broke my wrist. I still never again will

806
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: I ever try to do that. You know, I got

807
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: when they had a ball like at their wayside and

808
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: you try to knock it down. I tried that man

809
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: about broke my wrists trying to do that. That dude

810
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: about took me up out of here. And he's still scored.

811
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: And one people really people don't realize how big and

812
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: how at y'all people are all like, man, look at

813
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: Joel and b look at But you got to realize

814
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: Shock was probably twenty pounds have it than Joel, and

815
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I believe he was more athletic. Shot could literally like

816
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: run like really really fast. Shot could really really run,

817
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: not just like back for a basketball player, football a

818
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: football player. Shot size seven one three thirty three thirty

819
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: five and can move like he could Shannon, and he

820
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: could do a back flip back in his day. Come on, man,

821
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: seven one, three thirty and can do a backflip bad.

822
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: You know, eventually you mentioned it. Lebron's gonna be gone,

823
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Katie's gonna leave, Steph gonna move away. Who's gonna be

824
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: the of who's gonna be the face of the NBA

825
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: in the next two years. I'm gonna give you Jah, Luca, Trey, Young,

826
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball. I think it'll be Betwing, LaMelo Ball, and

827
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: Jaw If they're LaMelo Ball can get to Lala Layer

828
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: because I think he's built for that. Yes, like he

829
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: has that personality, that moxie like, he's built for that.

830
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: I think he can be that face. But John Moran,

831
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: if he continues to do what he's doing right now

832
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: in Memphis, he also can can can be that face. Man.

833
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: I need you to explain to me how Luca does

834
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: what he does. You talk about Joker can't jump over

835
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Dollar Bill, Luther can't joke over Dad. But I'm gonna

836
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: tell you it's it's all skilled, bro. That's what a

837
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: lot of guys lack. See, these kids nowadays rely on athleticis.

838
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: They could run fast, they could jump hot, right, they

839
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: could blow by somebody and just explode over. But if

840
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: you blow out your knee and you're not as quick,

841
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: you're not as fast, you're not explosive. What are you

842
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: falling back on Luca. Luca is not going to have

843
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: that problem. He's so skilled, he's a big body. He

844
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: know how to use his body. He got the ball

845
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: on the string. He's a smart bass ball player. He's

846
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: a great facilitator, and he can shoot like you. You

847
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: you can't speed somebody up that plays at their own

848
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: face right right, And that's why he's so great. He

849
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: plays at his own pace. He's gonna get to his

850
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: spots and do what he wants to do. Who you

851
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: like in the NBA Finals? Who you like the teams

852
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: West Western Conference, Eastern Conference, and who you got with it.

853
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: So the beginning of the season, I had Golden State

854
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: winning it all, but I don't know about Steth It's

855
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: in its injury. So my decision has shifted. I'm going

856
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: with a rematch of last year's NBA Finals, and I

857
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: think the Milwaukee Bucks are going to win it again.

858
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Talk about why is it that Yannis You don't feel

859
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Yannis gets the credit that he deserves. Because when I

860
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: tell I said, when when Shot was being as dominant

861
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: as he was, nobody said Shot can't shoot the three,

862
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Shot can't shoot the mid range. They said, Shack is dominant,

863
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: jannest is as dominant. But they're like, oh man, he can't, man,

864
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: he ain't no MB he ain't no KD. Yeah, but

865
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: you gotta understand Shock, these guys like because and I

866
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: don't know if you talked about this on your show,

867
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: like somebody asked me. I think I was on Shock's

868
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: podcast and they was talking about yannest play into back

869
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: in you know our era where the defense was was

870
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: really tight and you know the paint was was closed up.

871
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: And I said he was struggle because if you look

872
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: at when he had some of those playoffs series against

873
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: Toronto where Cloud on him and he couldn't get downhill

874
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: on the scene. That's what I was referring to. I'm

875
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: not talking about honest now can't play in any era

876
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: because he's developed his shot. He's confident now, yes, right,

877
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: so he's not. It was like a shock because I

878
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: was like, he can't. He can't. Really, he's not a

879
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: consistent shooter. And I was like, you go back in

880
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: out there guys that were stars and superstars were consistent

881
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: shooters the KG and they was like well shot and

882
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: tim darkers like, but those guys played with their back

883
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: to the basket. That's not Jannis's game. Clannis comes down hill, correct,

884
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: So if they're paint if back then if you don't,

885
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: you're not surrounded by all those shooters and it's upon

886
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: you to score the ball who you pass it to.

887
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Because we didn't, we didn't have that type of spread

888
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: off yet they have. Yeah, you didn't have Stephand Clay

889
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: on the same team that could space. So he would

890
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: have struggled, right, But in today's games, Taylor made for

891
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: him because he's surrounded by shooters all on the court,

892
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: so the paint is open for him to come downhill.

893
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: Now he's developed back to the back basket. I see

894
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: him do the turnaround now right now he's shooting the

895
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: three ball a little bit more, so he's Uh. I

896
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: don't know if why he's not getting that attention. Maybe

897
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: because he's been at the small market like Milwaukee. But

898
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: he's a force. He's a force with how many points

899
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: with t mac average in today's game with the floor

900
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: space like it is right now? Well, I have thirty

901
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: two and you know sub defensive pair of so I'm

902
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: go ahead and probably put bout eight more points on there.

903
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: You believe you get forty at night? Being look, I

904
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: think one year I probably could have averaged forty in

905
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: today's game because I only shot six threes a game. Say, right,

906
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: I only shot five or six threes a game, that

907
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: number probably would have doubled. Oh yeah, you've been a

908
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: team and I was. I wasn't gonna settle just threes.

909
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: I was a guy that got to the free throw

910
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: line as well. Right, so I probably put another, you know,

911
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: six to eight points on there. And the thing is

912
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: different about today's game. They let a guy get hot

913
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: and they won't even get the ball out of hand.

914
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: They'll just let him keep cooking. Man. Back in the day,

915
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get keep cooking me. They're gonna get

916
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: that ball at your hand. Yeah, but you know, I mean,

917
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: when a guy's hot, man, it ain't nothing you can do.

918
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm shooting over double seems like, come on, well you

919
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: see what you remember. I think it was Memphis. Might

920
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: have been Memphis. Okay. See when Book had backed the

921
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: back he had two fifty point games, he had forty eight.

922
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: They started doubling him in the back court. They like,

923
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: now you're gonna give it up. We're not gonna let

924
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: you get three. That's the way to do it. If

925
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna double somebody that's hot, yeah, you better double

926
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: thim in the back court because you do it in

927
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the front court me in my shootings, right, you're too late.

928
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: How good would the magic would have been had you

929
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: stayed with the White? Could you have challenged for a title?

930
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: Could you have possibly won a title? You and the White? Yeah? Yeah,

931
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: because I mean the White played for a title. Yeah,

932
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: so absolutely. I don't think people realize how good or

933
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: landing the White was. No white power was a force

934
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: to reckon with as athleticism off the charts. I mean

935
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: you're talking about having an impact on the game as

936
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: a guy somebody that averaged thirty points. He has that

937
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: type of impact on the defensive it, right, Like that's

938
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: what he was, controlling the offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, blocking shots,

939
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: running like a gazelle. I mean he was phenomenal man

940
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: for those eight years in Orlando. Do you feel you

941
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: snubbed on the top seventy five? I do, yeah, yeah,

942
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: But I mean I didn't go in my closet and

943
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: cry and wanted to, you know, call out the FEP.

944
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Now it's I'm a Hall of Famous, right, you can't

945
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: getting it. I mean, hey, that's a very select company, Yes,

946
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: very select. You were san Antonio, your last I think

947
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: that was your last year. You were so close to

948
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: that title. He met you, you had it, you were

949
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: twenty seconds away. As you're sitting on the bitch, you're like, Okay,

950
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: we got this, we got this one. Just make a

951
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: couple of three pros. They gotta file us. We're gonna

952
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: be good. As you're sitting on the bitch, what's going

953
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: through your mind? Say, let me ask you a question. Yes,

954
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: you play your career in Denver. Ye, and you retire

955
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: from Denver. Yeah, you enjoying life offseason? Somebody calls you up,

956
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: Hey man, we got we got a tight end. He's hurt,

957
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 1: and you come in and and give us abody. Sure,

958
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: why not? Right now? It might be a coach that

959
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: you have the utmost respectful right right, but when you

960
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: come back, that tight end is healthy. You ain't really

961
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: getting no burning from super Bowl? Right? You don't really

962
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: play like that. Y'all win a super Bowl? Do you

963
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: feel like he was a part of that? Now we competitive?

964
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Come on, you're right, that's what Matt Barnes said. Matt

965
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: Barnes said he felt like that when he went the Warriors, like, yeah,

966
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: we wouldn't to ring, but I ain't do nothing if

967
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: you can't contribute to the battles, right, I don't feel

968
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: a part of that. It was a great experience because

969
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: I've never been that deep in the playoffs and to

970
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: go through you know, that run with them, oh man,

971
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing. I love every bit of it.

972
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: But in terms of if we would have won the ring,

973
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have felt the same. I wouldn't have felt

974
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: validated as the champion. Right. Obviously, you leave Toronto, you

975
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: get a Max deal as a sixth man. I don't

976
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: know how many how many how many Max players you

977
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: got a Max deal? Have fa how to hell? You put?

978
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: How to he you pull that off? Hey, let's just

979
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: say that's a good representation. So obviously you're gonna do.

980
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: You're making the rounds. What are some of the players,

981
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: some of the big name players. Obviously you go, you

982
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: go to Orlando and then you end up in Houston.

983
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: So what are some of the pitches that they tell you, Okay,

984
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: team mat you come here. But this is what's gonna happen?

985
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Is I was gonna be so pat Riley sends the

986
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: private plane for me in Orlando, flies meets Miami, I

987
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: meet up with Zoe and Doot take me out back.

988
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: We hop on some jet skis. I'm like, bro, where

989
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: are we going? We did on jet skis and and

990
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: rod the jet skis to pat Riley's house. I'm at

991
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: pat riley House chilling. You know, he does his old things,

992
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: set the rings out and all that. Hello pitch right

993
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: and you know. So I went on that visit and

994
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: enjoy every bit of that. Go to Chicago. I stepped

995
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: foot off the plane, walked through the terminal. When I

996
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: first stepped through the terminal, I see Benny the Bull,

997
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: and I see the cheerleaders. It's like they got a

998
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: whole parade for me in the airport. I'm like, oh lord.

999
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: Get to the hotel. Sitting in my room. They pop

1000
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: in at take hope for send me a personal message.

1001
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh boy, hop stopping to me. I go

1002
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: to the freaking Cuffs game, thinking take me out to

1003
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: the ball game. I'm in the dugout with Ernie Banks.

1004
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: I threw out the first pitch. Sitting in the stands.

1005
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: They got airplane flying over with advertising talking about me.

1006
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my lord, like they rolled out the

1007
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: red carpet for me. But with all that they were

1008
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: competing against Orlando, which is home and from a kid,

1009
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: that was my dream. So put on that magic uniform. Right,

1010
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: That's that's the reason why I left Toronto. That's where

1011
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: I didn't done with the Bulls. That's why I didn't

1012
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: done with Mimi. Yeah you, I mean you enjoyed it.

1013
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: You enjoyed the sale pitches, but you just like man,

1014
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: I do the private Yeah, I do the yest games,

1015
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: but I ain't what I ain't coming help going to land.

1016
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate them. I'm gonna soak it up.

1017
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: I remember all this from creative memories. But going on

1018
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: our Lando, who was your Turfest guard? And who do

1019
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: you felt guarded you the best? Of course it's Kobe.

1020
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean I think he was one of the toughest guys,

1021
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,479
Speaker 1: but that's obvious. I'll give you some of the guys

1022
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: that you probably wouldn't think of. There's two guys that

1023
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: was tough to guard offensively. That was Katino Mobile and

1024
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: that was Jamal Mashburn. Like them, two dudes was a

1025
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: problem to guard. Well. Number one Coatino because he was

1026
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: they called him cat for a reason, right, right, They

1027
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: called him cat for a reason, and he could shoot

1028
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: the ball, just tough, wiry, strong left handed type player

1029
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: mash Burns six eight and nought to use his body,

1030
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: don't have the athleticism, but can shoot. Couldn't really block

1031
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: a shot like that, and just know how to use

1032
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: his body. Man and he had a bad so he

1033
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: was one of the toughest and somebody to guard me.

1034
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Our test was pretty tough. I love the challenge with

1035
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: him and and I can't get nobody else that credit.

1036
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: You got the record, you scoring thirteen points in thirty

1037
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: three seconds. What's going through your mind? Okay, the first

1038
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: shot goes in, the first two points go in. Do

1039
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: you think you know what? We got a chance? No

1040
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: matter if I could just get because it's never been

1041
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: done before. So did you think that you guys realistically

1042
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: had a chance to win this game. I thought we

1043
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: had a chance to win the game based off of

1044
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: what I've done before of coming close to doing something

1045
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, I felt like we had a chance.

1046
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: Thirteen points in thirty three seconds. I felt like we

1047
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: had a chance. I'm gonna get you out of here

1048
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: on this one. The two thousand Super Team, the two thousands,

1049
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: you got Allen iverson Kobe McGrady Duncan Shot versus Steph Kyrie,

1050
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: lebron k D and Jannis who went in that they're

1051
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: too small, too small, small man, Tim Ducket and Shot

1052
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: have a fields day. Who guard? I want to know

1053
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: who guard? I guess we could put. We could put Yannis,

1054
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: old Shot, k D, you got, you got TV, you

1055
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: got Tim Duckett. Yeah, I don't know who's gonna guard

1056
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: Kyrie with you and Kobe. Hey, I ain't nobody guard

1057
01:03:51,640 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's small's too small. Looking back in your career, if

1058
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: there anything you could you wish you could have done differently,

1059
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: or your career would have played out differently? What the

1060
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: one thing or two things you would change if you could? Nothing?

1061
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: Nothing had happened to where it's supposed to happen, Right,

1062
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: I went. I did everything that I possibly can do

1063
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: every time I suited up, and the results is what

1064
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: they were. So I it is what it is to me.

1065
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: I had an unbelievable career, right and my post my

1066
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: post career is gonna be even better. So I wouldn't

1067
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: change anything. Are you upset that you didn't win a championship?

1068
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: Do you believe the perception of traitthy mcgraded would change.

1069
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: Had you won a championship, not not the one in

1070
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: San Antonio, if you had been a contributing factor like

1071
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: in Orlando or like in Houston. Do you believe the

1072
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: perception of traitthan mcgraded the player would have changed. I

1073
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: think people's I don't know. I think people would call

1074
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: me a him, right, I think that would be embedded

1075
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: in people's mind. But Shay, I get a lot of

1076
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: love out here. Bro, You do respect it wherever I go.

1077
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: All right, So the guys, the guys in the league,

1078
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: no players, no players, and they you know they I

1079
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: already know they give you the love because you don't

1080
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: get to thirty two by being a slout right right now.

1081
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: You don't. And what's crazy is when you hear, uh,

1082
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: he didn't have a work ethic, Like, so you meant

1083
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: to tell me somebody that doesn't work can accomplish all

1084
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: the things that I accomplished in my career. All right?

1085
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: That's where you see in this league? Is that easy

1086
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: that I don't have to work that hard to accomplished that? Nah,

1087
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: you can get away with something like that in high school.

1088
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: But because you're probably the most talented player on the court.

1089
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: But when you get to the NFL, or you get

1090
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: to the MLB, or you get to the NBA where

1091
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: everybody is equally as talented. Nah, there's gotta be something

1092
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: to set you apart, and you gotta set yourself apart

1093
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: by how your mental and you're physical, and how you

1094
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: prepare yourself every night. It's hard to score thirty two

1095
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: points every night for your eighty two games. Are you

1096
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: kidding me? Well? I would congratulate you, congratulate you on

1097
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: the obil best of lup with that in its inaugural season.

1098
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: And Bro, I appreciate you. Give me a little bit

1099
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: of your time today. Hey, thank you, Shaye, appreciate your brother.

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Speaker 1: Best of up Man. All my life, running all my life, sacrifice,

1101
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: hustle Bay pricing, one a slice, got the dice, swath

1102
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all

1103
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: my life, running all my life, sacrifice, hustle Baggy pricing,

1104
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: one slice, got the dice, swath all my life. I've

1105
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: been running all my life