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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Shock and awe

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Speaker 1: was everywhere. Is the biggest news of the week was

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Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick decided to get back into coaching.

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Speaker 2: But now where we thought, No, no, this wasn't Bill

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Speaker 2: coming back to saving NFL franchise. This wasn't Bill coming

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Speaker 2: back to decide that he was going to make everything

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Speaker 2: right and go after the all time winning record. It

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Speaker 2: was none of that. No, it was Bill deciding he

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Speaker 2: wants to go to the college game and suddenly turn

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Speaker 2: around a college program. And for that, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people have spent all week yelling about what he should do,

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Speaker 2: what he could do, what it means. The question is,

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Speaker 2: what if he just it's just a coach that wants

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Speaker 2: to be a coach. What if we're asking all of

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Speaker 2: the wrong questions about the motives. What if we're asking

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Speaker 2: all of the wrong questions about what's gonna happen, And

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Speaker 2: what if we're just frankly putting our own thoughts into

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Speaker 2: somebody's head when all they want to do is be

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Speaker 2: He's Anthony Garganom, I'm Jason Fitz and look it's just

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Speaker 2: for me. I spent all week dissecting the news. You know,

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick headed to North Carolina. And it's funny. It's

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Speaker 2: funny to me, cousin, because every single time a coach

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Speaker 2: and say, well, yeah, you know, because they didn't want

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Speaker 2: to be around the college game anyot. We're finding reasons

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Speaker 2: that college football must be broken, and then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden a coach wants to leave the NFL to

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Speaker 2: go to the college game, and we're still trying to

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Speaker 2: find reasons college football is broken. And I'm just looking

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Speaker 2: at all of it saying, hey, what if a guy

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Speaker 2: a job this year and simply said I want to

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Speaker 2: Why does everything have to be Why do we have

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Speaker 2: to place our own thoughts on every person's decision on

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Speaker 2: where they want to do how they want to do,

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Speaker 2: what they want to do. Like Belichick wants to coach

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Speaker 2: and he got the opportunity to coach at North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Can't it just be that it's a great point, brother,

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Speaker 3: I mean excellent point, and I gotta tell you, I'd

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Speaker 3: love it. I think it's awesome. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: college football is fantastic. It is great. It is so interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's such a great challenge. The landscape is awesome, and

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. And look, you know, I think there

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Speaker 3: was probably, if you're gonna look at it, probably one

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Speaker 3: pretty close. I do think that there's a you know,

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Speaker 3: he probably looked and said, you know, he doesn't know

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Speaker 3: over and you know, well, these gms that are there

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Speaker 3: you know, I think his probably his positions were limited.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, yeah, I mean, none of our business.

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Speaker 3: If Bill feels great to go to North Carolina and

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Speaker 2: I will defer to Charles robertson Yahoo's Sports Insider, and

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Speaker 2: Inside Coverage, and he laid out a couple of things

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Speaker 2: And on top of all of that, you know, when

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Speaker 2: When he hands North Carolina a manifesto of how he

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Speaker 2: Nobody is sitting here saying, oh, builds a control for you,

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you're right, you get to build

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Speaker 3: go Bill. I got the Belichick. I mean, it's such

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Speaker 3: I mean to go through the portal to see what

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Speaker 2: And you know you mentioned bringing in Lombardi. I think

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Speaker 3: Surround, either I'm with you in that, hey man, you

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Speaker 3: know you're you're it's all about succeeding, right, It's about success,

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Speaker 3: And what do you mean, I'm want to work with people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just it's simples that that you know he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And all of this comes back to for me,

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Speaker 2: Bill's a pretty easy answer to that. And if you're

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, yes, you're gonna be investing more now in

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Speaker 2: Belichick and that's gonna help me get to Sundays. I

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Speaker 2: think spending on a coach with the name power of

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick will actually help them save a little bit

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question too, because this came

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Speaker 2: night without the TV on for like an hour, just

428
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: in the glow of Christmas. Might have been a little high,

429
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: but still I sat in the TV. It was still dude,

430
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: how bad?

431
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: How bad a Christmas got me spirit? I mean, that's

432
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: that's pretty awesome.

433
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that this is, you know, because I haven't,

434
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: you know, through this whole health journey. I just I

435
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: don't drink at this at this point. So I haven't

436
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: had alcohol since May, and I don't. I don't miss

437
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: it at all. Like there's a part of me that's like, yeah,

438
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm really like I'm good not drinking.

439
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: But this is the time of year where you see

440
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: all the recipes are like the just the wild, crazy drinks.

441
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh that sounds great, but I just feel

442
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 2: like i'd have one and then all of a sudden

443
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: you'd have to come bail me out of jail. Like

444
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: it'd just let's see what happened. So yeah, so instead

445
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: the Christmas comings or you know, went went to the

446
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 2: dispensary yesterday and got myself situated for the holiday.

447
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: Let's go, Oh my god. Yeah, listen, floating off into

448
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: Christmas Heaven. It's pretty nice, man. That's a that's a

449
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 3: place I like to go.

450
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: Holiday baking championship on the background. That just you know,

451
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: just worshiping the cake that I'm not eating. That it's

452
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: a whole it's a whole journey.

453
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: That's that's fabulous, man, Are you kidding me? That's I

454
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: do love that. I do love this time of year.

455
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: I think it's it's my favorite. It's the best. We

456
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: had a party last night and uh, you know, went

457
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: over some friend's house and it was, uh, you know,

458
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 3: just it was great. Just a bunch of great people

459
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: hanging out, you know, a couple of wine, everybody's uh,

460
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, in the glow of Christmas. You know, ever

461
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: old the house, the house we were at, you know,

462
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: decorated like yours. You know, just nice day, you know,

463
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: one of those night good nights type of thing.

464
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Did you did you take food to said party?

465
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 3: Like? What? What?

466
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: What food was?

467
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: We took a bottle prosecco and uh a, my wife

468
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: my wife stopped and got a pie. I guess it

469
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: was I forget carrot cake, not a cake she bought.

470
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: There's there's a bakery that's really good, so she bought

471
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: the carrot cake.

472
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: I become quite the even though I'm not eating it,

473
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: I've become quite the Christmas trifle master at this point.

474
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: Like the layered dessert. That's the glass bowl, you know,

475
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: so not a truffle, but a trifle. And so, you know,

476
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: I tried the instagram sensation of the Little Debbies Christmas

477
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: snack cake trifle. It was a hit. And then I

478
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: did a peppermint brownie bark trifle. Like I'm going to

479
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: parties with desserts at this point, I actually.

480
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: Dude, you're making your own. That's pretty freaking awesome.

481
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm Betty Crocker out there, like I got the

482
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: I got the trifles.

483
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: Wow, that's.

484
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: Tart rifle. Oh yeah, yeah No. The Parfe family, it's

485
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: it's just like a parfet It's.

486
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 3: So that's a good family, the Parfe family.

487
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: And you know the secret is instead of just the

488
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: layers of like whipped cream, it's a layer of cream

489
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: cheese icing type whip cream. Like so It's combination cream, cheese,

490
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: powdered sugar, and heavy heavy cream, all whipped together in

491
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: different stages. Oh, which makes it a little tangy, not

492
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: quite as sweet, you know. Extracts extracts man, Yeah, I

493
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: mean like, look, I'm gonna show up with a whole

494
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: like food cart with the desserts to the Gargana family

495
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: and then you can taste test them.

496
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: Tell me I love it, man, I freaking love it.

497
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, kids will go nuts over that.

498
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: Look at that same you make the you make the actual,

499
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: you make the pasta, I'll make the trifle. There we go.

500
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, listen, Yeah, that's a that's a deal man. Yeah.

501
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: I gotta get the fish I did all yeah, I

502
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: did a big fish Christmas Eve dinner. All right, So

503
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: let's let me uh, let me, let's get one more

504
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: thing with the belchick. So I think I answer you

505
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: this before. If you could pick one university to go

506
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: play Madden, would it be u N l V? Like,

507
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: how about Woes our buddy Woes right leaves ESPN to

508
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 3: go run his own basketball program. If you were going

509
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: to go run your own football program, would it be

510
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: un LV? Where would it pay?

511
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Home run higher by the way from all the

512
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: new head coach at UNLV that was that was a

513
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: good hire for them. Yes, I would be. I would.

514
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm the guy that when I play in franchise mode

515
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: on the A Sports I pick you and LV and

516
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: I go with it like it's it's and yes, so

517
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: one passion for that school.

518
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love this. Actually, that's isn't it isn't

519
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: that cool? Like where you're you know like that, Like again,

520
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: to go there and be able to put your own

521
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: stamp on something, it's so freaking awesome, Like I don't

522
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: even understand why that's a thing. I'd love to see

523
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: the fighting fits.

524
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: He's look, you and LV called me all right, let's

525
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: get me. Look I worked for SWAG at this point.

526
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Call me, put me, let me, let me be part

527
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: of the program. I will say this. I think one

528
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: of the incredible things and we talked a little bit

529
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: about this last week, but one of the incredible things

530
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: about where college football was gone is that you can

531
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: find different programs and find a real path to prominence

532
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: that didn't exist two years ago. Like I genuinely believed it,

533
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: just as I said earlier, And it's not accidentally I

534
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: mentioned Purdue. You know, Odum leaves U and LV for Purdue,

535
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: and I understand that he went and got the bag

536
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: he should. Every coach would go out and get the

537
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: money they can get. I love that. Good for them.

538
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: That being said, he had a better chance to the

539
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff every year at UNLV than he will

540
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: ever have a Purdue And that's a staggering statement to make.

541
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: You know, if you're if you look at the landscape

542
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: of the Big Ten, Purdue's gonna have to hope that

543
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: they have a miracle season kind of like Indiana has had,

544
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: and that they can catch, you know, lightning in a bottle,

545
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: make it happen. If you want to build a program

546
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: where you can consistently go to the College Football Playoff,

547
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: you can do that much easier in the Mountain West.

548
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: You can do that easier in the ACC. I just

549
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: I continue to look at part of this, this decision

550
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: for saving from the the lens of what's North Carolina

551
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: football look like. And you can't have that conversation without

552
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: at least talking about the coaches that have been fired

553
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: in the SEC that only lose two games a year.

554
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: The fact that we're sitting here clamoring for Ryan Day's

555
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: job at Ohio State. The fact that they were sitting

556
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: there saying, well, you know, Frankly, Harborough's gonna get fired

557
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: at Michigan because he can't beat Ohiose until he finally

558
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: won a national championship. Boy, there was a lot of

559
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: yelling for him to get fired. Yess where that doesn't

560
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: exist North Carolina, Like, yeah, you got you gotta You

561
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: can lose four or five games a year every year

562
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: and still be the head coach at North Carolina. So

563
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: now you have a program that can win the Power

564
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: five or a Power four conference there and they can

565
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: make the football playoff. I think they have a pretty

566
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: easy path. They have a history of recruiting quarterbacks that

567
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: have made it to Sunday, which is a difficult thing

568
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: to do, and they add a legend of a head

569
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: coach coming in. I just I feel like this is

570
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: such a good situation. Nothings can't miss. But this is

571
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: such a good situation for Bill to go out and

572
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: put his real stamp on a program, to you know,

573
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: to integrate, to be able to work with his son,

574
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: we presume is going to happen, to be able to

575
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: work with his buddies to not have to sit here

576
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: and justify the control he wants or why he wants

577
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: to do what he wants to do. Like such a

578
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: good situation for him and not for nothing. I think

579
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: the success is going to be there.

580
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I think so too. I think you're I

581
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: think you're spot on that I do. I think you're

582
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: spot on. So let me ask you this. So let's

583
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: go to reverse and let's say you're Jacksonville. I don't

584
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: think Jacksonville will go this route because they got burned before.

585
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: But just go with me here. So you're Marcus Freeman

586
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars are calling. Do you leave or do

587
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: you stay at Notre Dame. I stay at Notre Dame?

588
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: So do why? Why? Jackans?

589
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: If you're going to Jacksonville, you're just another coach that's

590
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: going to be there for three or four years and

591
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: be fired. You know, it's it's a revolving door. You

592
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: don't have the same level of Yeah, you've got an

593
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: NFL job, but the money's not going to be substantially different.

594
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: It is the if you're into fame, if you're into

595
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: I want to be I want to be a football

596
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: coach at the highest level. Do the Jacks feel like

597
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: they're a higher level than Notre Dame. I don't think so.

598
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: So not even close.

599
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: All of this for Freeman makes a ton of sense.

600
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: The only reason I would leave Notre Dame for Jacksonville

601
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: is if I thought Notre Dame was gonna fire man.

602
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: I just don't think that we're anywhere near that with

603
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman, Like he's not in protect my gig mode

604
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: and go out and you know, show off to the world.

605
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: Moude, all right, I got another one for it, Giants

606
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: or Notre Dame.

607
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: That one's I would still stay at Notre Dame personally,

608
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: but I see why a lot of people would want

609
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: to go to the to the Giants. I guess it

610
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: still has that. I mean, the hell we've been. They've

611
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: been cramming the Giants down our throat week in and

612
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: week out, even though they stink this year. So you

613
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: know you're you're all you're the coach of the Giants.

614
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I would stay with note I frankly, I would stay

615
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: with Notre Dame. I don't think if you're telling me

616
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: that I'm leaving Notre Dame, I'm leaving Notre Dame for

617
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. I'm leaving Notre Dame for you know, one

618
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: of the ultimate Oh my god, I can't believe I

619
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: got that gig. Like, if I was Dan Hurley, I

620
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: would have left Yukon for the Lakers, because it's the Lakers,

621
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: Like I think there are certain certain spots that makes sense.

622
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: The Giants, aren't that. The Giants ain't that the Giants

623
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: like the Knicks. You don't leave for the Knicks, sorry,

624
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Knicks fans.

625
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I mean the next to Garden, you know,

626
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: New York.

627
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: But this is the thing that like, so I hear

628
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: you in the Garden. I remember when we played. This

629
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: is such a humble, brackstory to say it this way,

630
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: but when we played, the Garden was sold out. I

631
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: remember I was much older than most of the people

632
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: in the band, right, and we walked in and I

633
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: was so like, it's on my arm, my right arm

634
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: the moments I'm proud of stuff the Madison Square Garden

635
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: logo arm because I love that place so much. And

636
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: we played it, and I remember as we were getting

637
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: off the like walking backstage, remember a couple of the

638
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: guys like, man, this place is a dump. And the

639
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: next night we played Barclays because we were doing like

640
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: a Victoria's Secret thing there and we walked into Barclays

641
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: and one of the guys was like, now, this is

642
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Speaker 2: an arena. And I kept thinking about the fact that

643
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Speaker 2: if you are of a certain age, which I am,

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00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: the Madison Square Garden has history to you. And so suddenly,

645
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: like walking around the garden and seeing the old WrestleMania

646
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: stuff in the concourse and the Jordan's stuff in the concourse,

647
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: you just see all of that and it's like, my God,

648
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: Like I'm going down to the garden tonight to see

649
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: some college basketball. So like going to the Garden is

650
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: such a special thing for me. I don't believe that

651
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: going to the Garden is particularly special for a lot

652
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Speaker 2: of young people that just don't. All they know is

653
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: a next team that has sucked for most of time.

654
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: So like, if you're from the area, sure, But if

655
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: you're a kid that right now is you know, growing

656
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Speaker 2: up in you know, the middle of Kansas or you're

657
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: growing up in California, does being in New York really

658
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: mean that much? I don't know. It's a global world now, man,

659
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Speaker 2: I just I don't think that it has the same

660
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Speaker 2: draw to to people under the age let's say, of

661
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Speaker 2: forty than they used to have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I don't know why that would be. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got to it's the garden. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: But if you're a basketball fan and you're thirty, you've

665
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: seen three good knixt seasons in your life, so like,

666
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: it's the garden. But when was the last moment? Like,

667
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: if you've been.

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Speaker 3: One, intellectually, you gotta you gotta still appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think so to a certain extent.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Walk play Center. Get the hell out here with that place.

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Speaker 3: That place blows. I hate that place. Fake me out

673
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 3: storylind Brooklyn gave me a break. That place blows.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's you know, there is a level

675
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Speaker 2: of and this is interesting to me. We'll use Christmas

676
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: as this example. I was working with somebody. I'll tell

677
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Speaker 2: you this Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, Lait, tell me that story. Hold that

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Speaker 3: story all right, we have to quick you up. I

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Speaker 3: always forget man, We just go, we just go run

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Speaker 3: Com studios. All right, so we were talking about this, uh,

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Speaker 3: this idea. If you're Marcus Freeman, who's getting go to

691
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Speaker 3: get court? And if you're Marcus Freeman, where you do

692
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Speaker 3: you go? Where do you go? So we both agreed

693
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: that you go you stay in Notre Dame before you

694
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Speaker 3: go into Jaguars. And then it's like, all right, well

695
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: what about New York? And then you brought up the

696
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Speaker 3: guard right because you're talking about the giants, and then

697
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: you've got a story. Now I need to hear the story.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Everybody does this at Christmas time.

699
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: You do your power rankings of Christmas movies, right, like

700
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Speaker 2: this is his regular sports radio content.

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Speaker 3: Right.

702
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: So I was doing a show on ESPN at the time,

703
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: and it wasn't a radio show, it was on a

704
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Speaker 2: different format, and we were doing our power rankings of

705
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: Christmas movies. I don't remember how many, however many there were,

706
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: but I went deep dive on minds. I like to

707
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: make mine a little different different, and I included I

708
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: think it was White Christmas or Holiday, and I remember

709
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: remember Bush, but I included one of the old timing

710
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: movies because I wanted to give us a different angle

711
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: of discussion. And I remember some of the people that

712
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: I was working with who are younger than I am

713
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: immediately had never seen the movie and weren't really familiar

714
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: with the movie. And I made the comment, well, it's

715
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: out on Netflix, like, just go check it out, like

716
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: it's a classic Christmas movie. And the answer resounding that

717
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: I got from everybody is no, I'm not going to

718
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: go watch an old Christmas movie. That's just never going

719
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: to happen. And I got into sort of a deep

720
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: dive conversation with some of the younger people I was

721
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: working with at the time, again many of them in

722
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: their twenties, for example, about the difference how there are

723
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: so many people in the world that are young that

724
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: will turn around and say, you know, to the older group,

725
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Speaker 2: why aren't you watching current music or current movies or

726
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: listening to current music and all these things, And so

727
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: there's an expectation for society to remain current. There is

728
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: not the same expectation anymore for that same society to

729
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: remain historic, even though it's easier than ever, Like if

730
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Speaker 2: you want to know who the Beatles are, there on

731
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: Apple Music and Spotify and you could go check him

732
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: out every single day, But it's harder and harder to

733
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: get people to give a damn about any of the

734
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: historical stuff that got us to where we are when

735
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: it comes to entertainment, particularly, So I think when I

736
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: say that part of the reason that New York just

737
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: doesn't have the appeal. And New Yorkers crushed me for

738
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: this every time I say it, because there's this belief that, well, yeah,

739
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: it does. I don't think it does. And so if

740
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: you're a twenty five year old athlete right now, you know,

741
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: and it might be different from Marcus Freeman, he is

742
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: a little bit older than I'm talking about age group wise,

743
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: But if you're a twenty five year old athlete, you

744
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: don't know successful New York sports. So everybody talks about like,

745
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: you don't know successful Giants football like it was when

746
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: I was a kid. You don't know successful Nicks like

747
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: it was when I was a kid. All you know

748
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: is that it's a place like frankly, you're gonna walk

749
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: into this pizza place you're gonna go to get a slice,

750
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: and the guy's gonna give you a grief for the

751
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: way you played last night for what. Like, I just

752
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: don't think historical context matters as much to the younger

753
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: generation I've worked with. So I don't feel like there's

754
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: as much of a poult of cities like New York

755
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: that we think there should be.

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00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: Wow, So you think the great American city thing is dead?

757
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: Oh god, yah, I mean one hundred percent. Like I

758
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: grew up in New York every weekend of my life

759
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: and four days a week for a while. Like I

760
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: was in New York for much of my childhood once

761
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: I got into Juilliard and the Humble Brack. And the

762
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: one thing I would say is when I was in

763
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: New York. Again it was this late eighties, early nineties,

764
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: But when I was in New York, there wasn't a

765
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: ma season every city. You had to go to New York.

766
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: For certain things.

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00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Now, when you go into the city, I said, I'm

768
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: going in there tonight. When you go into the city,

769
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 2: what is truly different about New York than what we saw? Really?

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm with you that you know you're obviously you

771
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: got everything's homogenized, right because you know, you know, technology

772
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: brings us closer, more similar and everything else. However, if

773
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: you set foot in New York City, I mean I

774
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: used to work there.

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00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean one of my favorite places in the world.

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Speaker 2: I just took.

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: The energy is unmatched in like Chicago. I love New

778
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: York is di vibes. It's just it's completely different. It's

779
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: unlike any other place. When you just set foot Manhattan,

780
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: you're Manhattan. I mean, come on, there's it's way different.

781
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

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00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: Look, I love the city. I'm biased for the city.

783
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that it necessarily has the same standout

784
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: draw against other American cities that it did thirty years ago.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I'll hold that thought to great, great thought.

786
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787
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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. All right, so we're talking a lot about

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00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: obviously the Belchick story, and you know, we're kind of

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00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: going into the coaching. Soon the season will be over,

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Speaker 3: it will be Black Monday, the playoffs we're ready to begin,

805
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: and teams will be starting looking for coaches, teams of

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00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: evolved Black Monday guys get fired and here you go.

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00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: This is gonna be the list. We're gonna need maybe

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00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: seven new coaches. And so we're talking about this like

809
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: if you're if you're Freeman, Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame,

810
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: do you leave to go to the NFL And what's

811
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: more prestigious, Notre Dame or the NFL. And then we

812
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: got this discussion about American cities because we're off the Giants.

813
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: So the Giants job. If that's available, do you go

814
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: to the Giants or you stay Notre Dame. And I

815
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: still think I still think the Giants had a lot

816
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: of cachet. But where you had this point where you

817
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: think New York, New York City is dead, it's I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to say it's da I mean, look again,

819
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Speaker 2: it's look, I love the energy of the city. Sure,

820
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: Like I again, I got the Madison Square Garden tattoo

821
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: on my arm, like I'm going into the city tonight,

822
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, for Yukon Gonzaga, all right, So like I'm

823
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm all also magic of the city, Like I'm all

824
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: in for the magic of the city. I don't think

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00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, I don't think it holds

826
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: the same cachet. Now, I don't. I think so much

827
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: of what New York is can be found in so

828
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: many places that you know, it's just a matter of

829
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: do you love the energy do you hate the energy?

830
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: I could live in New York that certainly. But I

831
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: don't think that the average person right now is looking

832
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: at like I don't think Marcus Freeman is saying, oh

833
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: my god, but it's New York like I just I

834
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: don't think that.

835
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Speaker 3: That you know so because of and maybe this is

836
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: more of a social media thing, but you don't feel

837
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: like New York is and the media capital of the

838
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: world anymore.

839
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Speaker 2: I don't think that the monetization capabilities of being in

840
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: the media capital of the world are so much stronger

841
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: than the rest of where they are anymore. Like it

842
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: used to be, if you were a superstar player for

843
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, nobody would know who you were

844
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 2: in the eighties. In the nineties, you had a hard

845
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: time getting ad deals. If you were the superstar quarterback

846
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: at the Kansas City Chiefs, you weren't the same level

847
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: like you had to be Joe Montana coming from the

848
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: forty nine ers to to the Chiefs for people to

849
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: pay attention to who your quarterback was. Now you can

850
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: be Patrick Mahomes and you can be just fine wherever

851
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: you play. Same reason, I don't buy the same argument

852
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: that people give me all the time about well you

853
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: should take less if you're the Cowboys quarterback, really because

854
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that you can make a ton of

855
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: sponsorship money basically anywhere. So now with social media and

856
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: the ability, I mean, you could be an influencer no

857
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: matter where you live, Like that's just the city. In

858
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: a work from home society, we've sort of we've taken

859
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: a lot of the draw of the media capital out.

860
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: I just I mean, I lived two hours from there,

861
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: and I just don't I don't feel like you have

862
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: to be in New York to be a media sensation anymore.

863
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You bring up good points,

864
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: but I don't know, I still think there is a

865
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: cachet about the city. I don't know, maybe just because

866
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. You and I you know,

867
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: probably you know, spent as much till we were together.

868
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: You and I were together in New York City.

869
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: And we didn't even know it where we first met. Well, now,

870
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah we weren't. No, you're right, person, Yeah, I

871
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: mean that was that was that's it's a beautiful thing.

872
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt about it. But now, like

873
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: it's no different than Look, it used to be the

874
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: only way if you're if you're you like like me,

875
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: you like you know, funk o pop and like, you know,

876
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: pop culture toys and things like that, if you're into

877
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. It used to be, man, I

878
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: gotta get to comic Con. I gotta get Comma and

879
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: then you know New York Comic Con, or I got

880
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: to get San Diego comic Con. Now that every city

881
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: in America seems like it's their own comic con, Like

882
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: it's just once something is successful in one place, it's

883
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: to absolutely everybody, And so it takes away the need

884
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: to be in one place to have the world at

885
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: your fingertips. That's the beautiful thing about you know, growing

886
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: up in Vegas and spending time in New York and

887
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: even now what Nashville is is those places have everything.

888
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: But one of the not quite so beautiful things about

889
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: like there used to be something special outlanding in California

890
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: and being like, oh man, I'm gonna go to In

891
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: and Out Burger. That's what everybody does. Well, now you

892
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: can go to in and Out Burger almost everywhere, right,

893
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Like you go to Texas, You're like, well, I'm going

894
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: to go to water Burger. Well now you can get

895
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: water Burger everywhere. Like we as a society because we

896
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: love to put whatever is popular absolutely everywhere for everybody.

897
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: It just you don't have to be in any one

898
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: place for anything anymore.

899
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Can't get an Angelo's cheese steak anywhere.

900
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: That's fair now that you've said that, though, like when

901
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: we're done, you might want to figure out how to

902
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: market that and like just start selling those franchises. Like

903
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: there was a bar. There's just a dive bar in

904
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: Nashville that when it first opened up was super popular,

905
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: still is to this day, I guess. But Tin Roof

906
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget. Like I used to go to

907
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: Tin Roof all the time, and then one day I'm

908
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: in San Diego and all the covers like is that

909
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: a Tin Roof? Like there was nothing about Tin Roof

910
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: that I ever thought, Oh, this is gonna become a

911
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: franchise all over the country. And now they got Tin

912
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: Roofs everywhere, Like it's just that's what they do once

913
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: it's successful, one place to put it everywhere.

914
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know, man, I.

915
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: Can get Junior's cheesecake at every grocery store in America.

916
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: Like yeah, but there's but there's a there's a cheapness

917
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: about that. There's a fugazy thing about that. I mean, listen,

918
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm not saying if not everybody's cup of tea, all right,

919
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: so that I understand like, if you go, you tell

920
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: me yo, and I'm not going to New York. It's

921
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: one giant rat infested hassle, right, I mean, I get it.

922
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: I can't argue. I mean that kind of city life

923
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: is for everybody, right now. I mean, listen, I lived there,

924
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: I worked there. I was also in my twenties, so

925
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: it was a different kind of animal. But you know,

926
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I like, I get it. I just I

927
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: still think. I guess it pains me and I don't know.

928
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you might be right. That's why I'm deferringa

929
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: here a little bit. But if that's the case, it

930
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: pains me a little bit because I think the vibe

931
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: is still different. Like part of the great and part

932
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: of the magic of our country is that there's still

933
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: interesting places like New York is different from Chicago, which

934
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: is different from Los Angeles, right, which is different from

935
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Dallas and Miami, Like the cities have their own personality

936
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 3: and Flairton, you got to you're gonna tell me that

937
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: New York has just lost all of its and maybe

938
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: you know, listen, I will say this post COVID, like

939
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: COVID killed the city. It's going to take a lot

940
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 3: for the American City to come back and it will.

941
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: Everything's life cyclical, but COVID killed it's time being.

942
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: There's a small element of this logic if you have

943
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: but if you win in New York people say that

944
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: all the time, and now I think honestly, if you

945
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: win for any major, if you win, it's if you If.

946
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: You win to Jacksonville, it means the same as winning

947
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: New York.

948
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: Man, if we if we had said years ago that

949
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City, the Kansas City Chiefs would be who the

950
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs are right now? I know the Chiefs

951
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: have had success, but the Chiefs have never been a

952
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: notable brand. And the NFL flat out admitted in their

953
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: last owners meetings in January that the Chiefs at this

954
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: point had become just like the Cowboys. Everything that they

955
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 2: program absolutely smashed. They they admitted that at the beginning

956
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: of the year when they talked.

957
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: About their ye every dynasty, I mean, the Patriots have

958
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: their thing.

959
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: But that's the point. The I mean, Mahomes right now

960
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: is is living breathing proof that if you win in

961
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City, man, you it's Kansas City and you're still

962
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Mahomes is the biggest star in the league. He's the

963
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: face of the league. He doesn't have to football.

964
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: NFL is different. It's the NFL is a place. It's

965
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: a great place where green Bay can exist. I'd be

966
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: a dynasty.

967
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the if you win at an alarming level,

968
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: Golden State, you become absolutely a household name. Yes. Like

969
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: the counter to this is Jokic. I don't think Kic

970
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: will ever get the attention in Denver that he would

971
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: like to. That is a fair That is a really

972
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: fair point that you know, I've counted my own argument here,

973
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: but you know, Jokic, certain point.

974
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 3: There a good point. Theretique arguing against yourself.

975
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Yoga is sort of the living, eating, breathing proof of

976
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: the opposite. But man, I don't I don't like Win's

977
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: above replacement value added things that we always talk about,

978
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: like is there so much value added if you're if

979
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: you're a coach, Like at this point, does the market

980
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: matter or does the structure of the organization matter more?

981
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: The structure or or the organization matters way more to

982
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: me than the market. And the market is good as

983
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: the you know, the media market of New York might be.

984
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: The organizational structure just doesn't consistently win, so I'd.

985
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: Rather I'd rather well, to your point, look at the

986
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: you know, you had Coughlin who had some success, and

987
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: they have two Super Bowls, right with Eli. But they

988
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 3: were kind of weird too. They were they were done,

989
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 3: you know, kind of in freakish in a freakish matter.

990
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: But over the last ten years they're pretty barren.

991
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Once you once you go through a long period of

992
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: being bad, like look, you're the Giants, you never irrelevant

993
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: and that's the difference. I will say that the floor

994
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: is much lower for Jacksonville. That will then it will

995
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: ever be for the Giants. The Giants will still be

996
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: on national TV, you know, six times a year, even

997
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: when they suck. But the ceiling, I don't I don't

998
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: think the ceiling is particularly the NFL. I don't think

999
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: the ceiling is drastically different, you know, and it's I

1000
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: don't think that's a bad thing, by the way, I

1001
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: don't think it's if you're sudor Sanders, you know, do

1002
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: you want to will it make a huge difference whether

1003
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: you go to the Giants or the Raiders. Maybe, But

1004
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: if you win a bunch of Super Bowls, that's what's

1005
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: really gonna ultimately make you rich, Like if you want

1006
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: to talk about what's going to make you generationally wealthy,

1007
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, I think as much as we want to

1008
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: sit here and say, well, look at Eli, look at Eli. Okay,

1009
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: Eli is a great example of what happens when your

1010
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: brother's Peyton, Like, I don't think that Eli would be

1011
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 2: nearly the media's and sat He's not a media sensation

1012
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: because he's was the quarterback of the Giants. He's immediates

1013
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: to say because his last name is Manning.

1014
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, ugly, I guess, I guess I was more.

1015
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think football is a little different. I mean,

1016
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: I know where we got into this conversation, but what

1017
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 3: got me was when you said that New York has

1018
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: basically lost its panache. And I'm thinking you're saying that period, like,

1019
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: not just outside of football, right, not just in football?

1020
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: I do Yeah, No, I think I think New York

1021
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: has lost. So I'll stand on this. I'll plant that flag, like, yes,

1022
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: I don't think going into the city is not this

1023
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: once in a lifetime, oh my god thing that it

1024
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: was twenty years ago. It just I mean, my god,

1025
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: I know it's times square and times square is times square,

1026
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: but like the Chili's is a Chili's. Like, I don't

1027
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: care if it's the world's largest TGI Fridays or not,

1028
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: it's still a TGI Fridays. Like, so, you know, it's

1029
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: just it's it's it is somebody that goes into the

1030
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: city often, it's just so much of what is offered

1031
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: there is offered everywhere else.

1032
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's not offered there is that energy that

1033
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: you can't find just because of the sheer size of

1034
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: the skyscrapers and the sah and the population. I mean,

1035
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: it's an experience that's unto itself. And it's different than Chicago,

1036
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 3: which is another huge city, which is an incredible city

1037
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: and its own I lived in both of them. I

1038
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: think they're both unique. And I don't know, I'm a

1039
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: big lover of the city, so maybe that's kind of it.

1040
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do agree with you the people make

1041
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: all of these places different. Like what makes us South

1042
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 2: different than you know the North. Having lived in both

1043
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: for extensive amounts of time, is less about the offerings

1044
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: and more about just the people, like and their approached

1045
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 2: to so much in life, Like, I think that's one

1046
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: of the beautiful things, like the growing up in the

1047
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: West Coast and then moving north and south. In my life,

1048
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: I've lived in three very different areas people wise, and

1049
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the beautiful things about our

1050
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: country is that, like there really is a spot for everybody,

1051
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: depending on the pace that you want to live at

1052
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: and the the sort of way you want to approach day,

1053
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: day in and day out life. And you're right, there

1054
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: isn't there is an energy in the vibe to you know,

1055
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: when I when I finished it the game tonight, I'm

1056
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 2: not just gonna leave. I'm gonna walk around the city

1057
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: even though it's two in the morning, because that's you know,

1058
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: fun to do right there. You can't do that in Paducah, Kentucky.

1059
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: That is not lost on me. So I just don't

1060
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 2: know that for everybody that's the same. Oh my god,

1061
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: draw and you know that it was. It didn't used

1062
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: to just be the people. It used to be the

1063
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: people and the offerings and the things you couldn't find anywhere.

1064
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: But let's face it, though, you know you're not getting

1065
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: the level of like if you want to go and

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00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: take a Kilmary trip, you ain't getting what you can

1067
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: get Manhattan. Then you're getting everywhere else.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is where as of a couple of

1069
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: years ago, I can't speak to right now, but as

1070
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: of a couple of years ago, there were more James

1071
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: Beard Award winning chefs with restaurants in Nashville than New

1072
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 2: York because rent On restaurants had gotten so cheap.

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00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I mean there's other places that that have,

1074
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: you know, good quality restaurants. I'm not going to dispute that.

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00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: But you know, the sheer volume in New York City

1076
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 3: of like top incredible places to eat is something that's

1077
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: unique to it. I mean, you're not getting so you

1078
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: can go down to Nashville and there's four or five

1079
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: places that you go, oh my god, look this is

1080
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: the great everybody like. But but in New York City,

1081
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: you're going to get uh in every every type of cuisine,

1082
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 3: right with every different nationality. You're you're not getting that natural.

1083
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: Phil No, maybe not to that same extent, But I

1084
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: don't think there's a huge I honestly don't think there's

1085
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: a huge difference. I also don't think there's a huge

1086
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: difference between the food scene and New York and Chicago

1087
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: that you've mentioned, or the food scene in New York

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00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: or the Vegas Strip where everybody has a restaurant like

1089
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: if you if you want fine dining, like you can

1090
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: get that anywhere now, like that's no.

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00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: But my point is you can't get that anywhere now.

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: I mean I there are places like, yeah, there's incredible

1093
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: places in Chicago. But that's what makes those big cities

1094
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: unique to themselves. Vegas is Vegas, right, like you know.

1095
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: They play unique in that it's nothing, nothing is unique there,

1096
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: Like they just bring everything from everywhere.

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, right from a Miffel tower to some chef. You

1098
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: can get whatever you want. I feel you on that.

1099
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: But my point is there is still a uniqueness about

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00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: the great American city and a and allure. Listen, I'm

1101
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: I already I already admit it's not for everybody. So

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: I blame me right now this moment in my life

1103
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: with two kids. I mean, I could live in New York.

1104
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: There's no way right like this, you know, I live

1105
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: in Jersey in a suburb now, like I lived in

1106
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: the city of Philadelphia, which I loved, but you know,

1107
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: it's not for everybody either, and in much lesser kind

1108
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: of way. And now I live in a suburb because

1109
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: I got two children and it's it's easy. Well, the

1110
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: point is, if you're a coach, you can't tell me

1111
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: that it doesn't matter, and you don't think it matters.

1112
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I think if you're a coach

1113
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: or you're an athlete at the highest end, what you're

1114
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: looking at, Like if you're Bill Belichick, for example, just

1115
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: as a random example, you're making ten million dollars a

1116
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: year North Carolina. I mean, look, you're gonna have nobody's

1117
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: gonna bother you when you go to get your slice

1118
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: of pizza and tell you that you're a bum for

1119
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: the way that your team played over the course of that.

1120
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: You have easy transport to and from wherever you're gonna

1121
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: get to. In the process of it, you don't pay

1122
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: the highest jock tax in the country, so your ten

1123
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: million dollars goes fast farther. There's no cost of living

1124
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: issues that you have in a place like that. Like

1125
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: you start to add all of these things up and

1126
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: you look at it and say, my god, like there

1127
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: used to be if you wanted to make it, Like,

1128
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

1129
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 2: Like we we hell, we end the show every week

1130
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: with Sinatra talking about my way, and like so much

1131
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: of that is ingrained in New York. If you're a

1132
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: coach now, you can be the biggest of the you

1133
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: can be the greatest coach of all time in you know,

1134
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: at the time random Foxboro, Massachusetts. You can be the

1135
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: greatest coach of all time in Kansas City like you,

1136
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: And you're making the same money, if not more, and

1137
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: you don't have all the other issues with it. If

1138
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm Marcus Freeman, you want me to go from Notre

1139
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: Dame to New York, You're gonna have to pay me

1140
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: forty percent more and get me to think about it,

1141
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: like it's just so, there isn't just there isn't enough great,

1142
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: There isn't enough replacement. What's above replacement? Difference between the profile,

1143
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: the attention, the money, the life, like all of those

1144
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: things start to stack up. I just don't think I

1145
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: don't think it has that same draw anymore.

1146
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, my man might be Mark, our Sam

1147
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: engineer who's from Chicago, wants to chime in.

1148
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Speaker 5: Mark, I was just thinking, when we mentioned New York

1149
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 5: LA Chicago, there has a certain status, that's a certain

1150
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: one two three about it. And when you mentioned New

1151
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 5: York and its status. It's like to me mentioning a

1152
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 5: movie star. There's a certain standard and nothing has come

1153
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: close to deadening or weakening that status of if you're

1154
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 5: in New York, these things happen and it's so great

1155
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 5: that it's just a certain and that comes with it.

1156
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 5: And it's like the Big Three Chicago, l A, I

1157
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: mean New York, l A, Chicago, they've had that certain

1158
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 5: standard about themselves. They're all up on a certain line,

1159
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 5: a certain standard of things, and that doesn't fade after time.

1160
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 5: It's like talking about a movie star. They have a

1161
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: certain status and that's that's there is a standard line

1162
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 5: and it doesn't weaken after after time.

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Speaker 2: I think there's there's a fair point there that you

1164
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: know everything that everything that's executed there is executed to

1165
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, at least in theory, a certain a certain standard.

1166
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Speaker 2: And I think also it's when it's when you're in

1167
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: a place it's as tough, you know, cost of living wise,

1168
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Speaker 2: to make it as you know, LA Chicago, New York.

1169
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: You have to be really good at everything. Like I

1170
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: will agree with that too, Like you have to be

1171
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: you better be putting out the best product because you

1172
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: know you're competing so much for every single dollar. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's probably fair.

1174
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Speaker 3: And you can't just gloss over the role of COVID

1175
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: too cold, COVID crippled American cities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree with that one thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, great discussion, FITZI where the fellas, and uh,

1178
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Speaker 3: we're going to get back to our college football discussion,

1179
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: and and and we've got to get to the NFL.

1180
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: We got so much football the cover man, I'm loving

1181
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: college Army Navy today, which is one of the great

1182
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: football games, great traditions in our country. Which I love

1183
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Speaker 3: Army Navy. Where the fellas are hanging out right here.

1184
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1185
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1186
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1187
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen.

1188
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Speaker 3: Live fellas hanging out Now that one. I'm not a

1189
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: big fan of Mark. It's beautiful, it's beautiful. But fifty

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: are you back? Yeah, it's a beautiful one. But I

1191
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: like the upbeat ones. You agree, Okay, I'm sorry. Uh,

1192
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna have fifty back in a second. I like

1193
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: the the I mean it's a beautiful, beautiful song, but

1194
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: I like the the upbeat ones. You know, that's a

1195
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: little a little too Mordland for me. All Right, Anyway,

1196
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: we gotta get to a lot of stuff that's going

1197
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: on right now, and let's uh, let's go back to

1198
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: the playoff and where we stay. Actually, you know what

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Speaker 3: we're gonna I want to go back to I want

1200
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: to start NFL from Thursday, and then we're gonna get

1201
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: into the college football plays. I'm dying to talk about

1202
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: these games. But we just had note the Rams and Niners,

1203
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 3: and it's amazing because you know, you look at that

1204
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: game and it was actually one of the best twelves

1205
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: games you're ever going to watch. If you go back

1206
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: and watch that game, there's a couple of plays that

1207
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: I think that killed the Niners won the debo drop

1208
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: early inside the five, he it's if he if he

1209
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: catches it, they're gonna go into the end zone and

1210
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 3: they're gonna get the seven. And it was really let

1211
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: me bleed the clock. It was actually brilliant coaching on

1212
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: McVeigh and the play calling down the stretch was fantastic.

1213
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: But that San Francisco team, you just can't overcome all

1214
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: those injuries. Like you know, when you lose Greenlaw, green

1215
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: Law comes in and the defense looks completely different when

1216
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: he's in the game, and then he's gassed and then

1217
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: you realize, oh, man, like that's a huge hole and

1218
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 3: Kyen Williams is able to eat and then you're and

1219
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: you're there. So, uh, you know it was it was

1220
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: an interesting one, but that's going to croak them. I

1221
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny. I was listening to and a

1222
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: lot of people were talking about uh party and you

1223
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: know debo and where the look when you have that

1224
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: kind of upheaval at running back and you're losing guys

1225
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: left and right. I mean, that thing was that thing

1226
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: was doomed. I don't think you could survive all the

1227
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: injuries they have and then you know, got no Trent Williams.

1228
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you just can't. Let you can't. You really

1229
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: cannot look at this thing without those injuries as a

1230
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: part of the equation. I mean, clearly so. But on

1231
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: the flip side, the Rams are alive. The Rams are

1232
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 3: a sneaky team, so we'll find out. So here here's

1233
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, the pecking order. I think it's pretty clear

1234
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: in the NFC Lions, and the Lions got the Bills,

1235
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: and I think the Lions are gonna win. I think

1236
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: the Lions put on that statement on Sunday and I

1237
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: think the Lions win. I think they went pretty pretty

1238
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 3: big too. I think they're one. I think the Eagles

1239
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: are two Eagles of the Steelers. That's a real good

1240
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 3: test for him. They're big thing, and this goes back

1241
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: to Deebo and Purdy, but their big thing is can

1242
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: the passing game get on their kind of get going,

1243
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: because it really hasn't. I mean, they smartly changed their

1244
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: dynamic of who they are to a downhill running team.

1245
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: When they had an early by they were two and two,

1246
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: the players got in Sirianni's ear. Sirianti himself knew this,

1247
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 3: he knew what he was looking at, and they had

1248
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: to dial back the pass game, go all in on

1249
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, and their defense got really good, and so

1250
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: they became this downhill run defense. They played complimentary football.

1251
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: They were able to play good d run the ball,

1252
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: and that's where they're at now. The talk of Philadelphia

1253
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 3: because AJ Brown was upset he's not getting getting the ball.

1254
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: He's like, where do we he was asked the question

1255
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: where do they need to improve? He said the passing game,

1256
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: and of course that set up like a little wildfire

1257
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Speaker 3: in Philadelphia this week. A lot of drama is AJ Brown.

1258
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: Now Jalen Hurts is the godfather to AJ Brown's daughter,

1259
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: so they were very good friends. And Brandy Graham, who's Hurt,

1260
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: on a radio show says that, well, you know they're beefing,

1261
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 3: basically paraphrasing that there's a there's a beef between the two.

1262
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 3: The relationships not the same. And then everybody was like,

1263
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: oh my god. And I know AJ Brown a little bit.

1264
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: He's not a diva at all. This isn't in our

1265
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: neck of the woods. We were scarred with the fighting

1266
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 3: between Terrell Owens and Dominan McNabb. This isn't that situation.

1267
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: But they got to play. They got to throw the

1268
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 3: ball better. I mean, Heurts has not played well, and

1269
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: that's the truth. They've won nine in a row, like

1270
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: they've rolled. They're on this epic winning streak and they

1271
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 3: look great. But Hurts has been buying large a passenger

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Speaker 3: FITSI yeah, I.

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01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: Don't disagree with that. Frankly, they got to get this

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01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: worked out. I'm a little surprised that Graham said anything

1275
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: publicly about it. I know he's walked the comments back

1276
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, but it just the It's because if

1277
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: we were applying a universal standard that we can't apply.

1278
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: If a quarterback came out in the middle of a

1279
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: winning streaker was like, well, I need to they need

1280
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: to let me throw the ball more, we would crush

1281
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: that quarterback. So a wide receiver coming out during a

1282
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: winning streak and saying I need the ball more. But

1283
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: I also understand that if you're a J Brown, you

1284
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: believe that you know, frankly, you're a huge part of

1285
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: why this team is going to win a Super Bowl.

1286
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: So you want to send that message loud and clear.

1287
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: So I think that you just got to figure this out.

1288
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: They've got to find some rhythm. They've got to find

1289
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: some passing rhythm, get Brown involved early, and get him

1290
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: fed enough to make sure that everybody knows that. The

1291
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: hard part of this is that when we talk about touches,

1292
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: not all touches are created equal in the sense that

1293
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: you could sit here. I've heard people say, well, you know,

1294
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: certainly there are enough plays in the game. There aren't

1295
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: the way the Eagles control the clock. I mean, there

1296
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: aren't the way the drive counts work out. It's not

1297
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: like they're sitting here giving his touches to someone else

1298
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: that isn't deserving. It's just, man, there just haven't been

1299
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: as many snaps. So when we look at some of

1300
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: the other teams that have found a better split, I

1301
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: think we have to acknowledge, like look at snapcount as

1302
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: a real stat in this that it's hard to feed

1303
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: all these mouths. They'll get figured out. Though I'm not

1304
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: worried about Philadelphia.

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you a question. Isn't it fair

1306
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: if aj believe, if Brown believes that there's an issue

1307
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: with the pass game and that ultimately, if you're playing

1308
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 3: Detroit you need to win, You're gonna need the pass

1309
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 3: game to win the game. And the truth of the

1310
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: matter is hurts isn't guy hasn't been good. No, he's

1311
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 3: been He misses guys repeatedly. He is slow on his reads.

1312
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got the best, he's got a great

1313
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: offensive line, maybe the best in football. He's got two

1314
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: great receivers in AJ Brown and Devonte Smith, who also

1315
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 3: has not complain, but it's been frustrated about not getting

1316
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 3: any kind of volume, and he's got a great running

1317
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: back in Barkley. I mean, there's no reason why this

1318
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: offense shouldn't be a machine like the Lions.

1319
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: You could argue pretty easily without much blowback, that Jalen

1320
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: Hurts has the best situation for any quarterback in the NFL.

1321
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: So I do think that part of why we are

1322
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: gonna be hard on him, it should be hard of

1323
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: him on him, is that when I like to always

1324
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: call him the yabbuts, when you're stacking up the yeah

1325
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: but about the Eagles, find me the one because Jalen

1326
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: Hurts is the yabutt. And that's the interesting part of

1327
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: this is that when you think you have solved the

1328
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: quarterback situation moving forward, the expectation is that the quarterback

1329
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: will never then be part of the question again. And

1330
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: he is certainly part of the question considering how good

1331
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: the weapons are. Like we sit here and talk about,

1332
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, could any quarterback be successful under Shanahan and

1333
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers and what's that mean for

1334
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: brock Party. I would argue that you plug most capable

1335
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks into the Philadelphia Eagles, they are going to

1336
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: have tremendous success because of the weapons, the offensive line,

1337
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: everything that you've mentioned, Like, there's just a lot there

1338
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: for a quarterback to feast with. So I do think

1339
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: it's fair to look at and say, hey, quarterbacks shouldn't

1340
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: be part of the question mark. And the fact that

1341
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: he is makes this equation really uncomfortable for Philly.

1342
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, and that's where the worry comes in,

1343
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, I mean quite frankly, because you have people go,

1344
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: well and listen, do I think that am I writing

1345
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 3: them off? No? Am I telling him they got to

1346
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,799
Speaker 3: replace the quarterback?

1347
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: No?

1348
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: But you know, he hasn't been the saint now. The

1349
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: guy wins, so you could like where I think he is.

1350
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 3: He's a winner. He like when he's playing his best football,

1351
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 3: he's playing a point guard style of football, which is

1352
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 3: you know, quick hitter here rpo play action, running for

1353
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: a first down on third and four, right, taking a

1354
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 3: deep shot to Brown Like that's kind of that's when

1355
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: he's playing his best football. But he had like that

1356
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 3: game he had against Kansas City and the Super Bowl

1357
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: where he was darting the ball up and down the field.

1358
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that since then now, and since then,

1359
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: they have played him differently, They have made they have

1360
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 3: pressured him. He is he holds onto the ball the

1361
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 3: longest in the NFL. Like, yeah, you gotta get rid

1362
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 3: of the ball. You gotta make go for your progressions quicker.

1363
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: Like you know, I think he's uncomfortable in the center,

1364
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: and I get it because he's smaller, But I think

1365
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 3: that would help. I think play action. They have to

1366
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 3: lean in more in the play action. Just watch the

1367
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: way Goff the way you know Goff is in some

1368
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 3: great uh you know, quarterback specimen. But if you look

1369
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 3: at that team that leans in on Montgomery and Gibbs

1370
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: and it goes into play action, boom, Now you're going

1371
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 3: to Laporta and Brown and Williams right like now you're

1372
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 3: doing that. Look at the Rams and how they utilize

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01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: play action with Stafford. Yeah, and the.

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Speaker 2: Hard part is to do that. You do have to.

1375
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: The one that you said earlier is he's not processing

1376
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: quickly to do any of the things that we're talking about.

1377
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: You really got to help your quarterback's got to be

1378
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 2: on fire sea in the field. Processing quickly hurts, isn't.

1379
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how you fix that, you know what

1380
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: I mean? At this point in this season. I don't

1381
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 2: know how you suddenly get that the mental part of

1382
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: it simplified for him to be able to process faster.

1383
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know. I like, I'm with you. And

1384
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 3: that's and my only point in discussing this is that's

1385
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 3: all A J. Brown. I don't think A J. Brown

1386
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: was being a devon. I know, I know everybody think,

1387
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: oh out he said that the quarterback blah blah blah blah,

1388
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 3: they're winning on a winning streak. He's just going, well,

1389
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: you know, we've got to make sure that's bunting up

1390
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: because at some point you got to throw the ball.

1391
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right, you got to throw the ball. Well,

1392
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: going into this playoffs, like, you're gonna have to be

1393
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: able to win no matter what. They're gonna take away

1394
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: that they're gonna find your weakness the Lions being they

1395
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: in this playoff, that the line, the difference between the

1396
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: Lions and the Eagles is so thin right now. The

1397
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: margin is so thin. Gotta find a way to fix.

1398
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: This quickly, especially if you if you have to play

1399
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,919
Speaker 3: in the Dome, Like if you've got them in Philadelphia,

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 3: I think the Eagles could beat them running the football right,

1401
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 3: But if you're playing in the Dome, you're gonna have

1402
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 3: to throw it because they're gonna they're gonna score as

1403
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: good as Eagles defenses. You're they're gonna score where the

1404
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: Fellas will keep going through the NFL storylines. So much

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,759
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1406
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Speaker 3: Is from Thetireraq dot com studios. Jason Fitz, Anthony Garganttle

1411
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 3: hanging out. So let me ask you if you agree

1412
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 3: with this. So I look at in the NFCA. Could

1413
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: Detroit clearly won Eagles still two? I think you gotta

1414
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: go Vikings Packers almost like three A, three B and

1415
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: I and I like Seattle, and Seattle showed me stuff

1416
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: like they went and you know, you beat Arizona and

1417
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 3: they beat them really from start to finish. But the Rams.

1418
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: I still got the one eye on the Rams because

1419
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: I just think they're dangerous. I think that offense, if

1420
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 3: they could protect Stafford and it's such a balanced offense,

1421
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 3: I think they're dangerous.

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they're definitely dangerous. I don't know that they're

1423
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: deep enough for talented enough to hang with some of

1424
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: the teams you just mentioned, but one any given Sunday, Yeah,

1425
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it. Seattle is interesting to

1426
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: me in that divisi because they were inconsistent. They're not

1427
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 2: inconsistent right now, Like they're playing really strong football and

1428
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: they're doing it without Kenneth Walker, the third being a

1429
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: vital part of this. Right now, Charmona has really stepped

1430
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: up for him, and you know, they're ahead of schedule

1431
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 2: for where I thought they would be on Michael McDonald's

1432
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: defense because that you know, well coached. Yeah, Ravens players

1433
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: admitted at the time that it took a couple of

1434
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: years to really get a feel for that defensive scheme.

1435
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: I think Seattle's doing a nice job with that. So,

1436
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: you know, I still think Seattle is in a really

1437
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: good situation. But I'm with you if we're just talking

1438
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: about who we're scared of the Rams. Anytime you've got

1439
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback that can play to that level and the

1440
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: weapons that they have, I think it's been a really

1441
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: good It's a statement season for them that there hasn't

1442
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: been a drop off I expected.

1443
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm only important is I kind of don't want to,

1444
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: Like if I'm a team, I really don't want to

1445
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 3: play them in the playoffs, Like I go, they were

1446
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: a little dangerous only because you know cop I mean, uh,

1447
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: Pooka is outrageous. And then they could control the ball

1448
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: on you. I mean, look how they ended that game.

1449
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 3: I thought they ended that game, but it's so impressively

1450
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: Thursday night. You know, you knew after they get to

1451
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: pick off a party and they didn't give the ball back.

1452
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's also this element. And I heard

1453
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: you talk about San Francisco a second ago with some

1454
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 2: technology issues I was having. But there's a part of

1455
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: me that looks at San Francisco and my god, I mean,

1456
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: there are questions to be answered now that that aren't

1457
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: that aren't easy. You know, the brock Pretty conversation was

1458
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: supposed to get easier this year. I'm not sure it did.

1459
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: Like the forty nine ers were supposed to still be

1460
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl window. They clearly weren't. Like nothing,

1461
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: nothing for San Francisco is getting easier. And in the meantime,

1462
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: the rams.

1463
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: LI the injury, I mean, the injuries completely derailed them,

1464
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, sure.

1465
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: But but now they got to make it and maybe

1466
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: maybe they don't. Now let's see what happens with brock Party.

1467
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: But he's going into the last year of his deal

1468
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: playing for pennies, right, So the injuries derailed you when

1469
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 2: you really needed a season where you could get confident

1470
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 2: answers on exactly what was next. And you know, because

1471
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: of the injuries, they just weren't allowed the opportunity to

1472
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: do that.

1473
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 3: Do you go into a full flood's rebuild?

1474
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't think San Francisco is ever going to

1475
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: go into it. They like, when they're healthy, they have

1476
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: too much talent to want to go into a rebuild.

1477
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: And you can't go into a rebuild when you pay

1478
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: your quarterback, right Like, so those two.

1479
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 3: Things, well that's it, Like, that's that's where you go. Well,

1480
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pay Party.

1481
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was just you're right, and that would

1482
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: just were the roll of the dice on that just

1483
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: would scare me to death.

1484
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 3: But to look at it, right, so look on offense, McCaffrey,

1485
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 3: you don't know about him. Kittle's older debo is beat up,

1486
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 3: banged up. Trent Williams is is close to being done.

1487
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean right slamming shut.

1488
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean defensive. I mean those guys been added

1489
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: for a minute, right, the great linebackers. I mean they've

1490
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 3: been added for a minute. So that's you know, a

1491
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 3: big deal, fellas. We'll talk about it.

1492
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: Listen Fox Sports Radio.

1493
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 3: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy,

1494
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Speaker 3: happy happy Fox Football Saturday. It's Army Navy today, one

1495
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: of the great ones. I love this matchup and this

1496
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 3: is a great iteration of Army and Navy two really good,

1497
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 3: gonna be fun game. May not be an under today,

1498
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Speaker 3: which is it? Which would be an odd on oddity?

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Speaker 3: my brother, Uh, let's go through the college football, shall we?

1505
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 3: And I want to go through the playoffs and look

1506
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: at the seedings. First of all this you know, everybody

1507
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: agrees that they got to fix it right, like the

1508
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 3: way the bracket was. It's just the seedings, the buys.

1509
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: You know, you got to go back to the drawing

1510
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: board and you got to fix it.

1511
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: Smart people did a stupid thing, and there's just no

1512
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,959
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is that the model already existed.

1513
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: All the brainy acts behind college football had to do

1514
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 2: was say, hey, what works in college basketball? Like the

1515
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: most successful tournaments in our sport? Like what works over there?

1516
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: If you win the ACC you're giving an automatic bid

1517
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 2: into the NCAA tournament for the men's and women's basketball tournaments.

1518
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: That makes sense? Are you giving an automatic seed? No,

1519
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: there's probably a reason why. Like sometimes, like I watched

1520
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 2: a lot of bar rescue and John Taffer has come

1521
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 2: in before him been like if this bar doesn't exist

1522
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 2: anywhere in the area, have you asked yourself why? Like

1523
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: there's a spot where you got to look around and say, hey, guys,

1524
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: why did the NCAA men's women's basketball tournaments not give

1525
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: automatic seating to conference champions? Because it's a stupid idea.

1526
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: And the minute they did that, they broke you know,

1527
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: they broke this whole system in the set. Like think

1528
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: about it. Ohio State laying an egg against Michigan has

1529
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: had ripple down effects now where all of a sudden,

1530
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 2: penn Sate had to play in the Big Ten Championship game.

1531
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 2: They lose that game, it changes their seating. But Ohio

1532
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: State's gonna take on Tennessee, which will now change Oregon's

1533
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: entire path to the national champion Like that, one dumb

1534
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: game has completely changed the way the end of this

1535
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: season has played out for the college football playoff seating

1536
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: Like that, how did you not anticipate that? You at

1537
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,879
Speaker 2: some point, if you are a leader of a sport,

1538
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: your job is in part to anticipate problems. The leaders

1539
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 2: of college football did not properly anticipate the problems that

1540
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: this was created.

1541
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, it means it's exactly what it's always been.

1542
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, this whole thing should have should have

1543
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 3: existed years ago. I mean, they went through this nonsense.

1544
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 3: I remember being young and and you know that it

1545
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 3: was voted on like who votes on a natural time?

1546
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: Like how ridiculous is that? Right? So un American? And

1547
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 3: then they go to the stupid well the BCS, like

1548
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: what do you just give me the freaking playoffs? And

1549
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: being doubt with it, this is it. It took him

1550
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:35,919
Speaker 3: forever then they finally do it, and despite right, despite

1551
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: how great it is and how much we loved, like

1552
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: how much I think how great college football has been,

1553
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 3: they completely screw it up, like these plays. They're so

1554
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: out of whack, these seatings. It's the stupidest thing of

1555
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: the world that you would give buys to boys, like,

1556
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 3: are you nuts? It's ridiculous. First of all, it should

1557
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 3: be sixteen teams. There should be no buys. You got

1558
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 3: the model should be the NFL Playoffs, except there's no buys.

1559
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean just the fact that to your point,

1560
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 2: Boise gets a buy in this whole thing in Arizona State.

1561
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to let them off free either. And

1562
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: these are teams that you know, frankly, yeah, they have

1563
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: really good seasons. But what what stuns me in this

1564
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: process is the ego is going to be the real

1565
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: killer in this. And what I mean by that is,

1566
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 2: if you think about it, the ACC and the group

1567
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: of five were so worried about having the proper level

1568
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: of inclusion that they put up a fight to get

1569
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: themselves an automatic buy. That's something that they fought for

1570
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: in the negotiation of this. So now what happens, Well,

1571
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: now what you have is you've got Sally See in

1572
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: Big ten sitting around and saying, well, I don't like

1573
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: this system at all, right, and so they're gonna sit

1574
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: around and say this needs to be changed. And now suddenly,

1575
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: when this the conferences, we're fighting for inclusion at the

1576
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: same level. By forcing that level of inclusion, they've created

1577
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: more controversy than they wanted to be a part of it.

1578
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted the smoke like, because now

1579
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: the SEC's turned around saying okay, none of this works

1580
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: for me. Like, if you're the SEC, you're turning around

1581
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: saying I don't. And look, I had no problem with

1582
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: the SMU getting in. I thought they were going to

1583
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: get in. I was on record for that. But if

1584
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm the SEC, I'm turning around saying, okay, So now

1585
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: not only are teams stealing our buys, but teams are

1586
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 2: stealing our bids. All of these things. They've created this

1587
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: whole conversation because frankly, they had so much ego. If

1588
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 2: they had just gotten themselves included instead of having inclusion

1589
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: with the buye, I think this whole thing looks wildly different.

1590
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: But the way they did it, man, now we're going

1591
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: to go back to the renegotiation table and you're going

1592
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 2: to see a very angry SEC and big ten.

1593
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and at some point that's where it all changes,

1594
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: right where they go, Yeah, listen, we got all the power,

1595
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: we got everything, we got all the teams, we got

1596
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 3: all the power. You that are acquiesce thoughts, and quite frankly,

1597
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: what it should be is it should be a NFC

1598
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 3: AFC model and there should be two conferences. Sorry, big

1599
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 3: twelve at ACC all right, pay them off and get

1600
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: them out. It needs you need to go with to

1601
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: like an NFL, there's there's all the big powerhouses, you

1602
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 3: whack them up in the divisions, and then those who

1603
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 3: do not make that we get to play in that realm.

1604
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 3: Then go to a separate n T you know, like

1605
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 3: those smaller conferences.

1606
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: Well, I can already hear people through their radios yelling

1607
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: at you that you're not being inclusive enough of everything.

1608
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: But I don't disagree with anything you just said. I look,

1609
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that the system for me particularly is

1610
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,879
Speaker 2: so broken that the whole thing needs to be abandoned.

1611
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: I will say this, my biggest fear when we went

1612
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: to expansion that I continually said was that, man, it's

1613
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: so hard to get people to talk about college football, right,

1614
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 2: and we were still talking about college football. And I

1615
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 2: think it worked that we were still that, you know,

1616
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: obsessed going into the last Sunday and also stupid that

1617
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: they always do that release in the middle of the

1618
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 2: Sunday NFL football. It's just just lack of situational awareness

1619
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: all day long. But the fact that we were clamoring

1620
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: for every ounce of that, I think, you know, there's

1621
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: a statement to that, and that's it's a good thing.

1622
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,919
Speaker 2: So I don't care if we stay at twelve teams.

1623
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't think they did anything wrong this year with

1624
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: the teams they picked. It's simply the forcing of the

1625
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: seating that makes it all different. Like, let's be honest here,

1626
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 2: Boise State, Arizona State, and SMU should have been whatever

1627
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 2: or doer you wanted them, ten eleven, twelve in this thing.

1628
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: And then how difference does this How different does this

1629
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: entire playoff matchup bracket? Look? If all of a sudden,

1630
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: that's because man, just by luck of the draw at

1631
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: this point, Penn State got a very very favorable draw.

1632
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh yes they did. It's ridiculous.

1633
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: It's crazy, Like what other sport gives your number one

1634
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 2: overall seed the toughest draw, which.

1635
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 3: Is what happened here. Yeah, that's it, dude, It's completely right,

1636
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: completely insane. I mean I was like, not like Penn

1637
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 3: State kind of a kind of a soft spot form. Well,

1638
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 3: you know you were talking about Lucky. My god, that's

1639
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 3: just outrageous to what they got. Yeah, I like, I

1640
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 3: hear you on you know kind of where it is,

1641
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: and I do think it should be sixteen, and I

1642
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 3: think I think it's going to get there anyway. I

1643
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 3: don't know why you even went this route. And even

1644
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: beyond that, I just think there needs to be a

1645
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: cap of the teams, like, you know, being inclusive. One thing.

1646
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 3: I'll be like, does the mac belong in this whole thing?

1647
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a hot The funny thing is And look,

1648
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked enough about this. We got

1649
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: really lucky in the first season that the group of

1650
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: five team happened to be really good, right like Boise

1651
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 2: State is still a good football team. That's lucky. What

1652
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: are we gonna do when the highest ranked group of

1653
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: five team and it almost happened this year there were

1654
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: chances that the highest ranked group of five team could

1655
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: have been an unranked team that was coming into this

1656
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: whole thing suddenly stealing a bid. Like, what's gonna happen

1657
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 2: if it's the number twenty five team that we're not

1658
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: enamored with the Heisman Trophy final finalist on it, We're

1659
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 2: just sitting there saying, wait, Memphis made the College Football

1660
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: Playoff this year? Has anybody seen Memphis this year? That's

1661
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: a very real scenario. So you know, again I said

1662
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 2: this earlier, but like, if you're Dan Mullen and you

1663
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: take the UNLV job. Admitting my UNLV homerism here, but

1664
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 2: if you take that job, part of the appeal to

1665
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: that job, frankly pretty easily to me is that, hey,

1666
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: you got a real shot to go to the college

1667
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: football Playoff every year. You don't even have to be great.

1668
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 2: You just got to be the best of the group

1669
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: of five and you're gonna be in that thing every

1670
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: stinking year. Like that's kind of crazy.

1671
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: It is, no, it is. Hey, get back real quick

1672
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 3: to that. The Ohio State Michigan game was that one

1673
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 3: of the worst called games you've ever seen by Chip Kelly.

1674
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 2: Oh, Like what is he doing. How has Chip Kelly

1675
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 2: earned his money? I'm just being honest here, Like, what

1676
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 2: have we seen this year from Ohio State's offense in

1677
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 2: a meaningful movie.

1678
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 3: He's the biggest fraud in all of sports coaching. I

1679
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 3: don't know how in the world he has a name.

1680
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I just don't understand it.

1681
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 3: I honestly, you're growing up against Michigan. You got all

1682
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 3: the skilled people in the world, and you don't throw it.

1683
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: You try to bully Michigan. You kept him in the game.

1684
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean it was one of the worst call games ever.

1685
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 3: And look at Chip Kelly's resume. He walks into Oregon

1686
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 3: that was already established, right, buoyed by Nike money, Right,

1687
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: has success, doesn't win at all, has success, goes to

1688
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 3: the Eagles, is a flop. All Right makes some of

1689
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: the dumbest personnel decisions I've ever seen. Right he for

1690
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 3: his own offense. He gets rid of Leshaun McCoy, who's

1691
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 3: a jump cut running back for DeMarco Murray, who's a

1692
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: stretchback who doesn't fit his offense, just ridiculously stupid. Goes

1693
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: to San Francisco unmitigated disaster, goes to u c L

1694
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 3: a disaster, like why is Chip Kelly walk around? Like

1695
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: why is he some great coach, some great football figure.

1696
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 2: It is funny to me that once somebody has some

1697
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: level of success, we just suddenly think, oh, this guy, yeah,

1698
01:30:58,880 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing.

1699
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 3: He didn't build the Oregon No.

1700
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 2: No, but we forget that the context has gone on that,

1701
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: like we remember, you know, the sort of the imagery

1702
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: of oh, he's going to run this fast paced offense

1703
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 2: and you know it's gonna be impossible for everybody to stop.

1704
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: And for you know, for a season, it was fine.

1705
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: And it's just I watched that matchup repeatedly a couple

1706
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 2: of times since I've watched that the game to try

1707
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: and figure out what went wrong, and I just think

1708
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: it's it's alarming that nothing creative was done for Ohio State.

1709
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Like this is my big beef. When when I see

1710
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: great coaches, what I want is great coaching. I want

1711
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 2: to see something that's like, oh, that's a nice sprinkle,

1712
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,879
Speaker 2: or look at that motion and that confused the other side.

1713
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: There was none of that. There was no it was

1714
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 2: simply a It felt like their whole week game plan

1715
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: was We're going to do what we do and be

1716
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 2: who we are. Okay, well, what do you do when

1717
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 2: that's not working? Because it wasn't working, so you have

1718
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: to have an answer at some point of what do

1719
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: we go, like what's our CounterPunch? And they never had

1720
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: a count of punch. They didn't even try a counter punch.

1721
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: It was it was gross negligence to watch that thing.

1722
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: I dude, I'm so with you. I thought that was

1723
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 3: just wretched, wretched coaching. I remember going to like I'm

1724
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: watching that game, think of myself, are you guys, what

1725
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 3: are you doing? It's just it's outrageous, how bad, how

1726
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 3: bad that game was coached. And by the way, like

1727
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how you feel about Jason about Ryan Day,

1728
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,520
Speaker 3: but I mean that team prepared.

1729
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 2: No, no. And it's funny because I'm not the big

1730
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 2: overreactor when it comes to coaches, like the concept of

1731
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 2: somebody getting fired, I just you know me, I'm like, well,

1732
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: let's calm it down a little bit. I look at

1733
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Day and it's like, okay, same question, like what

1734
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 2: do you like, what is your calling card? What are

1735
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 2: you putting your hat on and saying I have done this?

1736
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: And because of my great coaching. We were this, like,

1737
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: what's the development piece, what's the whatever? Cause I I've

1738
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: watched is the quarterback they let walk out the room

1739
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: have some pretty reasonable success somewhere else. I watched them.

1740
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 3: More than reasonable, right, and let's get it right, right

1741
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Kyle McCord. They completely scapegoated He's day. Scapegoated that kid.

1742
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: It was not right. They talked about the parents, they

1743
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 3: talked about it. Listen, I know those people. They scapegoated them.

1744
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,480
Speaker 3: It was not fair. And then the kid goes to Syracuse.

1745
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 3: He throws for all kinds of yards. He beats Miami

1746
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 3: on the same day that they lose to Michigan. He

1747
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 3: beats Miami, and I texted the father. I was like,

1748
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 3: there's a little vindication for Kyle. Like, I thought that

1749
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 3: was some vindication for because it was a shame. It

1750
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 3: wasn't right the way he handled it.

1751
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 2: And and what have we seen? Will Howard come in

1752
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 2: and suddenly, oh, look at the jump in his plate? No,

1753
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that at all, right, And so you

1754
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 2: look around and say, okay, yes, congratulations, you guys put

1755
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 2: together a great collective and a great you utilize the

1756
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: transfer portal, and you brought in a bunch of players,

1757
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Like I think that's part of the part of the

1758
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: skill set. Now, so like, congratulations, you did a great

1759
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: job with that. Does that suddenly make you a irreplaceable

1760
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 2: college football coach? No, And look, I think Vrabel's gonna

1761
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: end up in the NFL, not in college football. But

1762
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: if I'm Ryan Day, I'm at least I know that

1763
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 2: I at least got to come in against a Tennessee

1764
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 2: team that when they play their best, and I know

1765
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: that's asking a lot. When Tennessee plays their best, they

1766
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: can beat anybody. If I'm Ryan Day, I'm putting all

1767
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 2: the look at right now that I can and figuring

1768
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 2: out how to get this thing right right now, because

1769
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: if they lose to Tennessee, fans are going to lose

1770
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 2: their minds. I mean fans are absolutely going to lose

1771
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: their minds if they lose to Tennessee. Even though I

1772
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: think Tennessee deserves a a lot more credit in this matchup,

1773
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 2: I think they can actually win this game. Yeah, Ohio

1774
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: State's gotta They're gonna have to win otherwise it's it's

1775
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 2: full panic mode.

1776
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Now you're not wrong.

1777
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: Which is still easier by the way than Penn State.

1778
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 2: Because here's the funny thing about Penn State. If Franklin

1779
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 2: goes out and beats SMU, then the fan base is

1780
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 2: gonna say, who gives a damn Like SMU didn't even

1781
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 2: belong in the playoffs. And then the next game they'll

1782
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 2: have would be against Poise st. Where the fans will

1783
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 2: turn around and say, yeah, it's a group of five teams.

1784
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: Like I genuinely believe that Penn State is gonna have

1785
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 2: to win three playoff games for people to get off

1786
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 2: of James Franklin's back. I don't know, dude.

1787
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 3: You know, listen a couple of things here. One, you

1788
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 3: get the gift, it's a gift. I mean, there's no

1789
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: way in the world that they should be given that

1790
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 3: gift of those two of the of that road.

1791
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

1792
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 3: I mean that's a disgrace. Look at Notre Dame. Notre

1793
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Dames got to go through Indiana and then you nuts

1794
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 3: and then you give Penn State that Notre Dames better

1795
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 3: than Penn State.

1796
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I think Notre Dame gets a little

1797
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,480
Speaker 2: lucky that they're gonna get Georgia with the backup quarterback.

1798
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 2: But that Georgia defense is still legit, legit, like so

1799
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 2: it is.

1800
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 3: I'd still rather play Boise and just have to worry

1801
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: about stopping Genty then have to play Georgia, Like.

1802
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: You're not wrong about that. Look, Ashton Genty has been

1803
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 2: a delight this year, there is no doubt about that.

1804
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 2: But I think this is a really beatable Boise State team.

1805
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 2: And this is the other thing. And you tell me

1806
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 2: what you think. But we're gonna eat these first round

1807
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: playoff games, and I am fearful that we are going

1808
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: to get Texas is gonna take down Clemson by thirty.

1809
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: You know, the Notre Dame's gonna just rail Indiana like

1810
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 2: Ohio State did, and Penn State's gonna squash SMU, and

1811
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna be sitting here saying, really we want a

1812
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: playoff expansion like it. It's crazy. In a year that's

1813
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 2: had more college football parody than I can remember, I

1814
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 2: still think we're looking at a bunch of different blowouts coming.

1815
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 2: And then frankly, I think Penn State's gonna blow out

1816
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: Boise State too. So you know, we've got a handful

1817
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: of games coming at us that are gonna create the

1818
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 2: loud yelling of why did we expand the playoffs just

1819
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 2: to get bad playoff games.

1820
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 3: Well, I hope not, because that's completely short sighted. I agree,

1821
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 3: I agree, and and you know, I mean, come on,

1822
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 3: everybody knew that gets I mean, if you got it.

1823
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 2: If SMU gets beat by three touchdowns, the Alabama yellers,

1824
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 2: which just I'm so tired of already. God, I'm so

1825
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 2: tired of the Alabama yellers. Already They're gonna be it

1826
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 2: should be the new name of the team. No longer

1827
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 2: the Tide. It's just and no, it's not roll tied anymore.

1828
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 2: She's yell tied because all Alabama fans do is yell constantly.

1829
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's gonna be. See, this is why SMU didn't belong.

1830
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 2: It's just it's so stupid.

1831
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 3: I know. But I be honest with you, like I

1832
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of sympathize.

1833
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 2: You would have put in Alabama.

1834
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, if I just look at the

1835
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 3: eye tests, come on, yeah.

1836
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look what team am I more scared of Alabama?

1837
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 2: What team would would Vegas have favored more in playoff games? Alabama?

1838
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

1839
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that's kind of what that's why.

1840
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 3: But again That's why the field should be what the

1841
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 3: field is, right, That's why you got to go to sixteen.

1842
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 3: And this way you're assured that even if you have

1843
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 3: a situation like Alabama's this year, that they're still involved,

1844
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 3: because then you can't make Once you get to sixteen,

1845
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 3: you got you can't make any argument. There's no yelling whatsoever.

1846
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing is do you want no yelling?

1847
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 2: Because yelling creates conversation. That's you know, I don't disagree

1848
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: with you, but you know, yeah, yelling does create Yeah.

1849
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: But I'm looking forward, like I want the game. I

1850
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 3: don't care about the Let me market the game more

1851
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 3: than the yelling. You know, the game's beautiful right now.

1852
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 3: I love it. We'll get back. I want to go

1853
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 3: through some of the lines with you and look at

1854
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 3: some of the games, because you said you're already like

1855
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 3: look at some blowouts. So we'll go, we'll dive back,

1856
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 3: and they'll give you the schedule, the whole thing where

1857
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:20,320
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1858
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1869
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 3: go through the schedule for this and kind of look

1870
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: at where we stand. So it all begins next Friday night, buddy,

1871
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a big one Irish against Indiana.

1872
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 3: Notre Dame a seven and a half point favorite in

1873
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 3: that game, So you're smelling blowout, I am.

1874
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 2: I think for Riley Leonard, the number I keep saying

1875
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 2: is thirty. Everybody talks about Riley sixteen touchdowns, five picks

1876
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 2: this year, but fourteen touchdowns on the road, on the

1877
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 2: on the ground, so thirty combined touchdowns in this college

1878
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: football season. It's Riley Leonard quietly has been very Josh

1879
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 2: Allen esque in that sense, like there's a lot that

1880
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 2: he's been able to do at this level in this game,

1881
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 2: using his legs and his brain. He's been efficient with

1882
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: the passing game. It's just the last time we saw

1883
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Indiana against a real football team, he got out of control.

1884
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 2: And this is a Notre Dame team that, despite injuries

1885
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 2: on the back end of their defense, hasn't held them

1886
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: back at all. I think Notre Dame's defense played really well.

1887
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 2: They have the most inexcusable loss that I'll never explain

1888
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 2: in all of college football this year, but they are

1889
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: playing really stinking good right now. So yeah, I think

1890
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:29,799
Speaker 2: they wouldn't listen and win pretty easily.

1891
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, although Dore's something that Indiana and

1892
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 3: then that gives me just a little pause. There's a

1893
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 3: couple of other games where I think it's blowout city

1894
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 3: and this one I still go. They're well coached, they

1895
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 3: play tough.

1896
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 2: You know.

1897
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 3: That. Saturday, I mean next week's amazing playoff Saturday, December

1898
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 3: twenty First three playoff games at noon SMU Penn State

1899
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 3: Penn State eight and a half. Any Way SMU can

1900
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 3: keep this close.

1901
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't think so, man Like, I want chaos so

1902
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: much in the first round, but I just this Penn

1903
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 2: State team is better at everything that SMU is.

1904
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I feel Stateway. I don't know how.

1905
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 3: I don't know how they you know, I don't know

1906
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,440
Speaker 3: how they score. I mean, Penn State's defense is good.

1907
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 3: I don't. I agree, I don't. I don't say it.

1908
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: I think the same thing. Then Clemson Texas Texas is eleven.

1909
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 3: My man college chill Texas in a route blowout. I

1910
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 3: agree with him. I don't see how that game is close.

1911
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I already put money on Texas with the points.

1912
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 2: But here's the one thing that I would say. I

1913
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: thought Texas would go into the SEC championship game knowing

1914
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 2: when they kicked off that they had no idea how

1915
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: the Big Ten Championship game would look. I thought we

1916
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: would see a Texas team that was playing dominant, that

1917
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 2: was looking for the number one overall seat. It was

1918
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 2: still there for the taking when they kicked off. I

1919
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: thought we would see just a thorough Texas effort and

1920
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 2: a butt whooping, and we didn't. Right Like, quin Ewers

1921
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 2: is not the same since he came back from the

1922
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 2: shoulder injury, he has not been the same throughout the

1923
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 2: course of the season. They couldn't run the ball at

1924
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:30,759
Speaker 2: all against Georgia.

1925
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 3: I know that what they're waiting for.

1926
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 2: I believe that too.

1927
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't understand that. And by

1928
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 3: the way, Huers needs to go into the portal play

1929
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: next year at college. He's not ready for the NFL

1930
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 3: and he needs to go somewhere else and play.

1931
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 2: I saw a report yesterday that Michigan State is trying

1932
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 2: to put together a four million dollar offer to get

1933
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 2: him to come there for a year. At all I

1934
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 2: thought was do it solli dollars to go play somewhere

1935
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: else and continue to develop, because I mean Quinn early

1936
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 2: in the season I thought was really making a statement.

1937
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 2: And he's done nothing but step back since then. So yeah,

1938
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 2: I just I don't think when you weres is a

1939
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 2: first round draft prospect, and I don't think he's a

1940
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 2: championship caliber quarterback for Texas this year, unfortunately, because that

1941
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 2: Texas defense man there's a bunch of adults on that

1942
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. I really, I really like

1943
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:27,799
Speaker 2: them defensively. I don't trust at Texas's defense.

1944
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, dude, And and I'm thinking the same thing

1945
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 3: like yeah, and last and last week it was like,

1946
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 3: what are you doing? You needed mobility against Georgia. Put

1947
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 3: Arch in the game and he starts second half with

1948
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 3: him and then and that was it. That one play. Oh,

1949
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 3: I just thought that was ridiculous. I sometimes somebody's moved

1950
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 3: these dudes play I did these Jews make I just

1951
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 3: for the life of me, I don't understand it. I

1952
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 3: really don't. And in Ohio state seven over Tennessee. Is

1953
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 3: there any way Tennessee keeps his game close?

1954
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: If it was, if it was in Tennessee, I would

1955
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 2: I buy a little bit of it. But man, like

1956
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: the schedule makers did Tennessee no favors on this by

1957
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 2: the way, putting it at eight o'clock at night, like

1958
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: I've never understood that. Just my constant beef with the

1959
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 2: NFL was scheduling as well, Like the one game that

1960
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 2: you knew had a good chance of being decent weather

1961
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: was Texas, right, So put that game at night like

1962
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 2: it why make everybody? Why make it even worse for everybody?

1963
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 2: But they didn't do that. So this game being at night,

1964
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 2: when I would imagine it's going to be unseasonably cold,

1965
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 2: Tennessee trying to function. And I've had people ask me

1966
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 2: if that's real, And man, I can't stress it enough.

1967
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,600
Speaker 2: It is very real coming from East Tennessee to Columbus

1968
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 2: and that level of cold is going to be a shock.

1969
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 2: Nico Yama Liava just there have been too many bone

1970
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 2: headed plays this year where I just I can't get

1971
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 2: the end of the Arkansas game out of my mind,

1972
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 2: where you didn't even give them a chance to win.

1973
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know that I've seen a team with

1974
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 2: this much talent constantly beat themselves with situational penalties, like

1975
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 2: just the false starts and illegal shifts and like just

1976
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: procedural stuff. So I think Tennessee. If Tennessee comes in

1977
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 2: and plays their a game clean, they can beat absolutely

1978
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 2: anybody in the country. Can they do that against Ohio

1979
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: State at the Horseshoe at night? Probably not. So I

1980
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 2: picked Tennessee to win this game because I wanted one

1981
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 2: upset somewhere. It's the only one I could even see happening.

1982
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 2: But honestly, I think Ohio State.

1983
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 3: Wins, yeah, and I and I think they it's a

1984
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 3: win and a cover. I'm struggling to find the dog

1985
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 3: in this thing. To your point earlier, Yep, I'm struggling

1986
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 3: to find a dog. I'm struggling to find a dog

1987
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 3: that can keep this thing close. Maybe Indiana again that

1988
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 3: Smu clets it stinks, But Smu, I don't know. I mean,

1989
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 3: can they stress them a little bit?

1990
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean offensively they can. Maybe I don't know

1991
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 2: they can't. I want to talk myself into this, brother,

1992
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 2: but it just ain't there. I think, I honestly think,

1993
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 2: I think when we could you know obviously that what

1994
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 2: is that next Saturday? That's next Saturday, right, yeah, first

1995
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: round the playoffs next Saturday. We're gonna spend all of

1996
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 2: this show in a week previewing these matchups, and I

1997
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 2: just think Sunday, when we wake up, we're gonna say, well,

1998
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: that was boring night. Like I just I don't I

1999
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 2: don't think any of those games are going to be

2000
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 2: competitive in the first round. Maybe Tennessee a hustake. Maybe

2001
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 2: Tennessee hustay. That's I just gotta keep I gotta keep,

2002
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, holding out hope that that one, you know,

2003
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 2: if Tennessee, man if My mom used to always say

2004
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 2: if a frog had a glass butt, it would only

2005
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: jump once. She didn't use that language, but like I'm

2006
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: using that that that analogy here, if if if None

2007
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 2: of these are prominent ifs, But if there's any one

2008
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 2: team that I think it could break right and they win,

2009
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 2: it's Tennessee. The rest of them, I think it's just

2010
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 2: gonna be a slaughter.

2011
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I I think the same thing. But I

2012
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 3: don't even think I give Indiana more of a chance

2013
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 3: to keep it close to Tennessee because I go back

2014
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 3: to your point about and I think it's a great one.

2015
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 3: You got that quarterback at the shoe. I don't see

2016
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 3: that being a good recipe.

2017
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, young quarterback that has had mental processing errors throughout

2018
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 2: the course of the season, an offense that has had

2019
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 2: again procedural penalties left and right, in that environment at

2020
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 2: night on a playoff game. Yeah, this I like. My

2021
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 2: fear is that a few a few mistakes turns that

2022
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 2: into twenty one nothing in the first eight minutes of

2023
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 2: the football game, and then it just absolutely turns into

2024
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 2: an ass whooping. That's my fear.

2025
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. By the way, real quick, are you going

2026
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 3: to the big ball game this week? UNLV your squad

2027
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:54,759
Speaker 3: against Cal.

2028
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,440
Speaker 2: Now, I can't make it out to Cal. The Unfortunately

2029
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 2: they this second ear in a row. UNLV's put that

2030
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: bowl game all the way on the other side, so hopefully,

2031
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 2: But this is kind of a weird I always say

2032
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 2: for people that say bull games don't matter, but they

2033
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 2: don't matter to you, But for fans of the program,

2034
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna watch the game, it's gonna be cool

2035
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 2: to see it for for kids that don't get the

2036
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: chance to travel off and it's a very cool thing.

2037
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 2: This one is a little different though, because you know,

2038
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 2: you know what might have been for this program, for UNLV,

2039
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: and also you know what is happening with the transition

2040
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 2: in the coaching staff. Like it's just this bowl game's

2041
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: gonna feel a little bit different, especially in the transfer

2042
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: portal world. I's just this this game is gonna be

2043
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 2: sort of a shell of what it could have been.

2044
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 2: To me.

2045
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to figure out. That's the other thing too.

2046
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 3: The sweeping changes of timing needs to happen too. Like

2047
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 3: if you were to have ball games, you can't have

2048
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 3: the portal open. But that's got to wait. You can't

2049
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 3: have all this movement, the jockeing of coaches and all

2050
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,600
Speaker 3: this stuff. It's you got to do it. You have

2051
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 3: to have an off season, like the NFL does you

2052
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 3: can't have chaos while the playoffs are going on.

2053
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually totally agree with you on that. Through

2054
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: all of this, it's a weird situation to think that

2055
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 2: kids are trying to figure out where they're gonna play,

2056
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 2: what positions are going to be opening at what's school.

2057
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 2: Like there's a logjam of well, you can't go to

2058
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State till kids decide to leave Ohio State, and

2059
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 2: none of that can really be decided until after the

2060
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 2: college football playoff for most of these kids. So it

2061
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 2: is wild.

2062
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 3: It is. I think it's paramount that they kind of

2063
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 3: revamped this thing and then you got you know, let's

2064
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 3: face it, you got you know, January first. Baby, that's

2065
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 3: gonna be awesome. New Year's Day one, five and eight

2066
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 3: forty five. I still can't believe Arizona State as a

2067
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 3: bye are you kidding me?

2068
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, good for doing him.

2069
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 3: Boise State, Oh god, New Year's Eve. I mean it's great,

2070
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 3: it'll be fantastic, it's cool, but Boise State, oh god,

2071
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:12,600
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

2072
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,639
Speaker 2: I think it's terrible putting a game on New Year's Eve.

2073
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: I think I think they should all be New Year's

2074
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 2: day kind of move them, or even January one, January second.

2075
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Putting a game on New Year's Eve is just a

2076
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 2: death sentence. I think the the attention will reflect that

2077
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 2: as well. I just I don't understand why they did it.

2078
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 2: They've had plenty of time to get rid of these

2079
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve attempts. They never really work or get

2080
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 2: rid of it.

2081
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 3: You would have it all on New Year's Day, yeah,

2082
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean seven thirty games are well over

2083
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 3: before the midnight.

2084
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not if you want to go out. I mean,

2085
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know Anthony's not going out, but like

2086
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 2: there's just a bunch of people that like, what are

2087
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 2: you gonna look at your girl and be like, hey,

2088
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 2: let's just watch this game first and then we'll go.

2089
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 2: Like you're out way before that seven thirty game, A

2090
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 2: bowl game, long halftime, it's not over till eleven, So

2091
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: like what are you going out to dinner or to

2092
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 2: the bar, to a party and then you got the

2093
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 2: game on the background, Like that's just not I don't think.

2094
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 3: I feel you. It is a bat it's a background night. Yeah,

2095
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,600
Speaker 3: Like if you go out, it's a bat it's a

2096
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:20,759
Speaker 3: background night. But I don't know I mean, you know, listen,

2097
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 3: you're right. I mean, I'm being selfish here, I got

2098
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 3: I got me some football man.

2099
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: Here's I appreciate that, though, I do appreciate that.

2100
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: Uh, we gotta take quick too. We'll come back and dude,

2101
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you a question. Man, have you heard

2102
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 3: about the drones over New Jersey? Because my son was

2103
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 3: a witness. Is it the invasion? The alien invasion? I

2104
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 3: gotta ask you about this? Coming up next? Where the

2105
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2106
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2109
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Speaker 3: Live Fella Ms, Dugrich, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargan hanging out Fellas. So, dude,

2110
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Speaker 3: have you followed this story of these drones.

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01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen a little bit about it. Like I'm

2112
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 2: the worst conspiracy theorist in the world, so most of

2113
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: my friends are conspiracy theory theorizing.

2114
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 3: Or I'm not you Yeah, I'm not either.

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01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm bad at that stuff. But yeah, no, I'm you know,

2116
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 2: we got drones everywhere. Heard that they're flying over random cities.

2117
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: People seeing what what what what's the what's the Philly drone? Take?

2118
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 3: So in Jersey, right, like the I think they're huge.

2119
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 3: They're big in Jersey. Right. So we're I'm at this

2120
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 3: party last night, at this Christmas party, and you know,

2121
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:01,559
Speaker 3: people start talking about it, Oh my god, drones. And

2122
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 3: one of our going to the guys said, yeah, I

2123
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 3: saw them. You know, they filled the sky. They were big,

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01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 3: almost like a small car, and you know it was

2125
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:20,719
Speaker 3: ominous because I heard anoise I look up and felt

2126
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 3: like they were shooting at us, right, Like you know,

2127
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 3: they'd be more dramatic about things, right, I'm like, get out,

2128
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 3: you actually scause I saw them up in North Jersey,

2129
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 3: outside of New York. They were there, and then apparently

2130
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 3: they've come south. So you know, my wife and I

2131
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 3: were talking. I'm like, yeah, they were talking about the drones,

2132
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. So all of a sudden, our little one,

2133
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 3: my wife's texted my little one, Massimo, and he's staying

2134
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 3: over a friend's house when we were out, and he

2135
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 3: was saying that he saw the drones, that it was

2136
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 3: you know, the sky was filled with them, Like he said,

2137
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 3: there was like forty Jones in the sky and and

2138
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 3: they're big. And if you're imagine, if you're eleven, you

2139
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 3: think italiens, like you're concocting story that it's aliens or whatever.

2140
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I don't you know.

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01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I hear all the conspiracy theories too, like

2142
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 3: it's China seeing how would we would react? And well,

2143
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 3: I guess what I don't understand is if they're you know,

2144
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 3: whatever they are, if they're not part of the government,

2145
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 3: when the government shoot them down there, it's our airspace.

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01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 2: Shoot. I mean, I would think so, But also don't

2147
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: I'm not smart. I'm pretty I'm not smart on that stuff,

2148
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 2: like it would what you're saying makes sense. Here's let

2149
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 2: me ask you just a general alien question, like because

2150
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 2: aliens in theory are coming to us and they're gonna

2151
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 2: be much more technology and technological advanced because they forget

2152
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: out how to come to us, right, So we always

2153
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: have this concept of Vail being brilliant. What I never understand,

2154
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: especially in alien movies, is why are the ships always

2155
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: landing in the middle of big cities. Like if I, like,

2156
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 2: if I'm smart enough to build a ship, wouldn't I

2157
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 2: just look at like a map and be like, Hey,

2158
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: this area over here in Egypt has a lot of

2159
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 2: flat land, probably a good place to land. I don't

2160
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 2: why why do they always land in New York or

2161
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Chicago or over DC? Like what I mean, wouldn't it

2162
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 2: make sense to land somewhere else, set up your home base,

2163
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 2: get ready for things, then just sort of from their

2164
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: initiate whatever you're gonna do. I just I want to

2165
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 2: see a spaceship movie where they all land in Egypt.

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01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 2: Seems more factually accurate to me.

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01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you told about strategy, yeah, you go to

2168
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 3: more sparsely populated you know, I could I feel you

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Speaker 3: on that.

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Speaker 2: The biggest the biggest thing too. Brother. If we're gonna

2171
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 2: be honest, like, look, I know, as I've said a

2172
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 2: million times, if a zombie apocalypse hits today, I'm gonna

2173
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try and fight the zombies. I'm

2174
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 2: not gonna try and fight with you, my friend. I'm

2175
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: gonna go to the local pharmacy, take all the drugs

2176
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 2: I can, and just get really hot. Like that's gonna

2177
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: that's how okay, that's I'm not gonna try to fight

2178
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 2: there a zombie a cople of apocalypse for the rest

2179
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 2: of my life. Same with an alien attack. Bri and

2180
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 2: I were talking during the break like what aliens look like,

2181
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 2: and I said, well, here's the thing, like what if

2182
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 2: what if aliens are dogs and they keep pets like people?

2183
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 2: I'd be all in on that. You know, I'll be

2184
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: a house pet.

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01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 3: Like.

2186
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 2: Look, you just got like a big fluffy human bed

2187
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 2: for me to sit in all day. You give me

2188
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: little bites of cheesecake if I go outside, when I

2189
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 2: when I go potty, Like cool, I'm I'm in for this, like,

2190
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna embrace whatever it is.

2191
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 3: Because now that's saying you have your dog's life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2192
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 3: well you know not every dog's is lucky as your dog.

2193
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: Well that's that's okay, that's a fair fair point.

2194
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 3: So you know if they put you in a human

2195
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 3: doggie kennel, well.

2196
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 2: Then I probably did something you like, look, you know,

2197
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm you're right, and look, my god, if I get

2198
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 2: if I'm in a dog like a human fighting ring,

2199
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 2: then I don't stand a chance in that one, Like

2200
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 2: I can't be raised.

2201
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 3: Let's let's have this want to fight this guy.

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01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 2: I want to be. I want to be a little

2203
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 2: puppy prints I'm gonna be hiving, puppy prints, conspiracy theories

2204
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 2: in general. With all this stuff. I get it. But

2205
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 2: my biggest thing is is, look, if it's really a

2206
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 2: global thing, I can't stop it anyway. So I'm just

2207
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 2: gonna embrace it. It's not gonna change my Saturday.

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01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It's just weird. You know, these things

2209
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 3: filling the night sky? And why are they only at

2210
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 3: at night? Oh that's just the weird. Yeah. And there's

2211
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 3: a zillion of them. So it's like Jersey, Why why

2212
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 3: nobody wants to go to Jersey.

2213
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 2: It's good. So they're headed over to your place.

2214
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Speaker 3: let's get into it's a great NFL card tomorrow. What

2232
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Speaker 3: a great card? Did you said? Games are awesome them tomorrow?

2233
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 3: So let's get into it and kind of go through it,

2234
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 3: especially the later ones. My god, it's some good stuff,

2235
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 3: good football.

2236
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 2: Give me that late night Atlanta Vegas Monday night game.

2237
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 2: I know everybody's really fired up for it. It's just

2238
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 2: that late night Monday night Raiders Falcons game that somehow

2239
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 2: didn't get flexed. I know, I know, it's really the

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Speaker 2: highlight of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: My friend, Ways, I had a question for you, why

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02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 3: is that only eighth is the game at eight thirty?

2243
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those Monday night doubleheader that they

2244
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 2: had pre planned for the NFL this year, And I

2245
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 2: honestly thought it was going to get flexed out. I

2246
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 2: thought they would pick any other game other than you know,

2247
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 2: at this point, a six and seven Falcons team taking

2248
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:43,840
Speaker 2: on a two and eleven Raiders team. I don't know

2249
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 2: why it didn't get flexed. Somebody smarter than me can

2250
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 2: figure that out. But yeah, it's the late night Monday

2251
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 2: night game. So we got Bears Vikings Monday and then

2252
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 2: Falcons Raiders Monday on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But again my point is, why is the game?

2254
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 3: Why the ones at eight one at eight thirty? Why

2255
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 3: not stagger it?

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02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 2: Oh that I don't know.

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02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 3: He make it, make one game at seven, in the

2258
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 3: other game at ten or nine thirty.

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02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:13,040
Speaker 2: They probably don't want to go that late for the

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02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 2: East Coast, I would guess.

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Speaker 3: Who cares people are going to watch? Are you nuts?

2262
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 2: People gonna stay up late to watch Falcons Raiders? Are

2263
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 2: they gonna be like past my bedtime?

2264
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:24,680
Speaker 3: No, well you're gonna be You'll be locked in, I know.

2265
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:28,320
Speaker 2: Michael Pennock Junior review Revenge Game. This is my is

2266
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,760
Speaker 2: my bold take. Kirk Cousins gets benched at the half.

2267
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 2: Pennick Junior comes in log and a half, throws for

2268
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 2: three hundred yards and the half absolutely torches the Raiders.

2269
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 2: And then then we get to all sit there and

2270
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 2: remember that the Raiders really wanted to draft him, just

2271
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 2: didn't get the chance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I love that. It's a great narrative.

2273
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But by the way, we start to scatch like, I

2275
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 3: hate this time. I love this time of the year,

2276
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 3: but I hate it for football because you know, we're

2277
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:58,280
Speaker 3: now in a couple of weeks left the season. The

2278
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 3: next thing you know, it's gonna be the end of February,

2279
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 3: the weekends of the Super Bowl. We're all going to

2280
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 3: be depressed. Nothing's going to be happening. It's gonna blow

2281
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 3: all right, and we're gonna have to go. Oh we

2282
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:13,839
Speaker 3: all to the draft. Oh my god, won't the season?

2283
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

2284
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 3: I just I can hear myself whining and crying as

2285
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 3: we speak, but I can't. I can't.

2286
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm such You know what, I'm gonna give you the

2287
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: biggest hug in in New Orleans this year, just gonna

2288
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,200
Speaker 2: be just a big thank you brother, a big old hug.

2289
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 2: Especially we're gonna need it. By the way, I will

2290
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 2: quickly remind you that there are eight teams in the

2291
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 2: NFL this year. Eight out of thirty two eight a

2292
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 2: quarter of the league that have won three games or less.

2293
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 2: And we're still gonna lament the end of this. It's

2294
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 2: been just a year of suck. The sea of suck

2295
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 2: is deep, the waters are deep, and we got suck.

2296
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 2: A quarter of the league just drowning in the water

2297
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 2: of suckiness football, that's what we got.

2298
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 3: I still love it too. I enjoy it.

2299
02:02:59,440 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 2: That question.

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02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 3: So when we go to Vegas, can you break your

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02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 3: red non drinking thing?

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Speaker 2: I mean for Anthony gcannell. Yeah, like I'll have I'll

2303
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 2: have a cocktail with.

2304
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 3: Good good all, Okay, it's that you just made my day.

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Speaker 3: That'll be great.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'll make it like some sort of cocktail.

2307
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 2: Like it'll be something that either requires an umbrella or you're.

2308
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 3: Here as long as you were going to have a cocktail.

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02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 3: Like we're gonna be in the Orleans. God, I have

2310
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 3: a cocktail. Wait you know what I'm saying.

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02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, We'll go up and down

2312
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 2: Bourbon Street and get you know, we'll make credible life decisions.

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02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the best. The Orleans is what I love.

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Speaker 3: The Orleans, Frenchman Street, Bourbon Street, the whole Citie. I

2315
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Speaker 3: freaking I love it.

2316
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 2: Man.

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02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 3: It's a it's such a it's such a great city. Man.

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Speaker 3: Did you did you play in the Orleans a lot?

2319
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 2: Not a ton, but some. Yeah, we did a couple

2320
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:58,520
Speaker 2: of things down there. And the first time I ever

2321
02:03:58,560 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 2: got to go to a super Bowl when I was

2322
02:03:59,880 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 2: just the podcast had just started out. John McClain, my

2323
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 2: longtime sportswriter, down to Houston. Dear dear friend. John and

2324
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 2: I had become friends, and he actually got me a

2325
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 2: media pass first. So the first super Bowl ever went

2326
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 2: to was in New Orleans. So it'll be fun to actually.

2327
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 3: Be because a great guy man, great, very very good writer.

2328
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 3: He's a great guy.

2329
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. John one of the many people that helped change

2330
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 2: my life in many ways. So but that being said,

2331
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 2: it's cool that the first time I ever went, like

2332
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 2: I'll never forget, I was bumming around in the press

2333
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 2: area and I didn't know that there was a halftime

2334
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 2: press conference. So I walked into a big room because

2335
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 2: they have free Gatorades and I needed a Gatorade after

2336
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 2: all the drink and I've done the night before. I

2337
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 2: sit down and like thirty seconds later, Beyonce walks out

2338
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 2: sings the national anthem for the whole room, because it

2339
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 2: was right after a big controversy, says any questions, I

2340
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 2: mean it was such a mic drop moment. I was

2341
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,120
Speaker 2: a god. Life it's different. So it'll be cool to

2342
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:55,200
Speaker 2: be back in New Orleans now as an actual media member,

2343
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 2: not just as a you know, friend got me a pass,

2344
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm excited for this one.

2345
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 3: Ah, that's cool, that's good, be awesome. All right, let's

2346
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 3: go through all the games this hour and kind of

2347
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 3: look at the storylines behind each team. We'll start at

2348
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:16,400
Speaker 3: the metal Lands, the Ravens and the Giants, speaking of

2349
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 3: sub three win teams, the Giants at two and eleven

2350
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 3: coach Baltimore. I mean, they just think how the Ravens

2351
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 3: are a sixteen point favorite, sixteen in the NFL. That's

2352
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 3: like fifty in college.

2353
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never thought I would see that from this

2354
02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 2: sort of like, because let's be honest, while the Giants

2355
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 2: are a disaster, they do not they are not necessarily

2356
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 2: you know, they're not the Owen sixteen Browns. Like it

2357
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 2: shows you how the wheels have fallen off completely in

2358
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:55,520
Speaker 2: this one. But also I don't want to mask the

2359
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 2: fact that, let's be real, also about the fact that

2360
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 2: the Ravens are a bit of a disappoint right now.

2361
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 2: To me, I had super Bowl expectations for the Ravens,

2362
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 2: and they're eight and five. They're very good, but man,

2363
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 2: they are not. They are not necessarily where I thought

2364
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:12,720
Speaker 2: they'd be. So I think Derek Henry has a big game.

2365
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito is just going to be a disaster. This

2366
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 2: is a blowout, but Baltimore. Baltimore's standard is the super

2367
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 2: Bowl and they need to get some things cleaned up

2368
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 2: to get there.

2369
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 3: I still like them, now, don't you still like them?

2370
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,200
Speaker 2: I like them. I like them, but I thought i'd

2371
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 2: love them like It's not it's they're very good. I

2372
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:31,920
Speaker 2: just thought they would be epic elite. I thought that

2373
02:06:32,160 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 2: if we go back to week one of the season,

2374
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 2: I thought by now the Ravens would be the class

2375
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,880
Speaker 2: of the AFC. And they're not. They're not even the

2376
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 2: class of their own division.

2377
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, we killed them. Was end

2378
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 3: of October. They lose that Thursday night game against the Browns.

2379
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:56,480
Speaker 3: They may lose to the Steelers the middle of last month,

2380
02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 3: and then you know, you have your bye last week,

2381
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:03,680
Speaker 3: and then you have lose to the Eagles, and you know,

2382
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 3: it was weird. It was a weird game because the

2383
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 3: Ravens held the ball, had a huge time of possession

2384
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 3: and somehow kind of lost the game. It was kind

2385
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:17,240
Speaker 3: of a weird game for him.

2386
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's the hard part for the Ravens is they

2387
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 2: have a few of those losses this year that are

2388
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 2: just weird kind of games for him and we're watching

2389
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:28,440
Speaker 2: the best, Like that's one you mentioned sort of the

2390
02:07:28,480 --> 02:07:30,600
Speaker 2: heartbreak we have this late in the season. The thing

2391
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,360
Speaker 2: I love about this late in this season is you're

2392
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,480
Speaker 2: starting to really see who comes into form and you're

2393
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 2: starting to see who, oh my god, that is a

2394
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 2: scary football team. Like, for whatever the deficiencies might be

2395
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 2: for the Eagles we talked about earlier, the Eagles are

2396
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 2: clearly one of the best teams in the NFL. The

2397
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 2: Lions are clearly one of the best teams in the NFL.

2398
02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 2: The Bills are clearly one of the best teams in

2399
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. Part of the Ravens identity this year is, man,

2400
02:07:52,360 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 2: they lose some weird football games.

2401
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's the truth. If you're a Giants,

2402
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 3: get rid of dable, Yeah.

2403
02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:04,200
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. If I'm the Giants. I'm cleaning house,

2404
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 2: and the same thing I'll say about the Raiders. I

2405
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 2: think if you end the year with the disaster and

2406
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 2: you're going to overdraft to the quarterback position, to say

2407
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 2: this loudly, I don't think either of these teams have

2408
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 2: a choice but to draft a quarterback. And I don't

2409
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 2: think either of these quarterbacks are worth going one to

2410
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 2: two in the draft. So if you're going to overdraft

2411
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 2: a quarterback, then I think you absolutely blow the entire

2412
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:25,640
Speaker 2: thing up. You go all the way. I don't care

2413
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:28,920
Speaker 2: if we're talking about the janitor. Everybody in that building

2414
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 2: needs to speak quarterback and only quarterback, and they all

2415
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 2: need to be aligned on which quarterback they're overdrafting, and

2416
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 2: there needs to be a plan just for that quarterback.

2417
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 2: So I know Daboll has been a quarterback whisperer, but

2418
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,040
Speaker 2: I want to get all the nasty ju jew out

2419
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 2: of the room. I'm starting all the way over, and

2420
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm doing it the right way. I'm either bringing in

2421
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 2: a coach and a GM together in any way, whether

2422
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 2: it's the coach first and the GM with him, or

2423
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 2: the GM first and the coach. I want them to

2424
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 2: come in together. I want them to have the same

2425
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 2: responsibility from day one. I want them to have the

2426
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,000
Speaker 2: same level of ownership on the decision from day one,

2427
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 2: so that there is accountability from day one. I want

2428
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 2: all that to come in together.

2429
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 3: Jets and Jaguars IW speaking of three win teams. The

2430
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 3: Jaguars just Dutch a dumpster fire, and then you got

2431
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 3: the Jets. Man, oh my god, what do you do

2432
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 3: if you're the Jets? I mean, you got to blow

2433
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:25,400
Speaker 3: the thing up, don't you.

2434
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the unaviable part for the Jets is that

2435
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 2: they aren't in a position where I think they're gonna

2436
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 2: be able to draft a replacement a quarterback. And I

2437
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 2: don't think Aaron Rodgers comes back next year. So now

2438
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Are you trying to bring Sam

2439
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 2: Donald back to the Jets, which would be wild to

2440
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 2: think of it. I don't see why he would even

2441
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 2: do that anyway, So he's gonna have options. Although this

2442
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 2: is my hot take, I think Minnesota Vikings should actually

2443
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 2: franchise him. I think they should eliminate his options, franchise him,

2444
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 2: make sure the JJ's gonna be good. But above me

2445
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:59,080
Speaker 2: on that, they don't have an answer, So now they

2446
02:09:59,120 --> 02:10:01,839
Speaker 2: don't have a head coach, they don't have organizational structure

2447
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 2: you can trust. They have a bunch of guys that

2448
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 2: you know. They have several guys that are a little older.

2449
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 2: They have some guys that have stopped playing. They have

2450
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,960
Speaker 2: some weird contracts, they have Aaron Rodgers. Like, I just

2451
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 2: they're they're in just an absolute dumpster fire, needing to

2452
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 2: rebuild the whole thing, but where they're going to pick

2453
02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 2: in the draft. They can't really start that rebuild this year,

2454
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 2: so they're they're absolutely like the Jets are absolutely screwed.

2455
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 3: And then you get the Jaguars. Who are you know,

2456
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there are mets Ingram is out, He's

2457
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 3: going to be done there. I mean, it's just a

2458
02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 3: shell of a team. They'll be they'll fire Dunk Peters

2459
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:41,640
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, so they'll need a coach.

2460
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're locked into a huge contract for a

2461
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 2: quarterback that not everybody agrees was necessarily worn't that huge contract, Like,

2462
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 2: I just, I don't know. The only thing with the

2463
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 2: Jags is the good news for you there is that

2464
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the cons really pay a ton of attention.

2465
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 2: So you've got an ownership group that doesn't really care.

2466
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 2: They're in a fan base that is not particularly rabbit

2467
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 2: or large, So maybe maybe there's patience. But man, I

2468
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:08,480
Speaker 2: feel like the Jacks are gonna be They're gonna be

2469
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 2: looking for a coordinator, but a coordinator with options is

2470
02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:12,240
Speaker 2: not gonna pick the Jacks.

2471
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Cowboys and Panthers. By the way, Carolina a three

2472
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:27,880
Speaker 3: point favorite over Dallas. Carolina playing tough. Right. Look at

2473
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 3: what the Panthers have done. They almost beat the Eagles.

2474
02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 3: If Legett is able to catch that ball, which he

2475
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 3: should have, they're in the end zone. They probably win

2476
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 3: that game. They played Tampa into overtime, they lost by

2477
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 3: the Chiefs by three. They beat the Giants, they beat

2478
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 3: the Saints. There's a team that's playing better, Bryce Young

2479
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,400
Speaker 3: playing better. What do you make of Carolina?

2480
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the resurgence of Bryce Young and Dave

2481
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 2: Kanala is sort of breaking through. Is one of the

2482
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,240
Speaker 2: better stories of the back half of the season. Honestly, Like,

2483
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 2: you're a thousand percent right, Like the Panthers right now

2484
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:10,040
Speaker 2: are a tough out. So do I think the Panthers

2485
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 2: are a great team or a great foundation moving forward. No,

2486
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 2: But they've got some pieces that they should feel pretty

2487
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 2: good about. So yeah, I mean, Carolina obviously like they've

2488
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:21,480
Speaker 2: turned everything the right way. I what's interesting to me

2489
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:24,720
Speaker 2: is I just am not as convinced as everybody else

2490
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 2: that McCarthy is as good as gone. I'm curious to

2491
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:30,480
Speaker 2: see what the last month of the season looks like

2492
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 2: from him, you know, I just because we're presuming that

2493
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:36,560
Speaker 2: he's out the door and the Cowboys are gonna make

2494
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 2: a massive change if they win some games down the stretch.

2495
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:42,160
Speaker 2: I could see them looking at and saying, hey, everything

2496
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 2: went wrong this year, We're gonna run it back. I

2497
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 2: know fans will lose their mind I know media will

2498
02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 2: lose their minds. But man, I don't know. There's no

2499
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Belichick all of a sudden, all these you know, there's

2500
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,560
Speaker 2: gonna be there's gonna be coaches that have other options

2501
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:57,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden. So I don't know. I think

2502
02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 2: the Cowboys become really interesting just to see if they

2503
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:02,600
Speaker 2: at all will play hard for McCarthy, or if he

2504
02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:05,000
Speaker 2: will coach harder if he's just done dealing with the BS.

2505
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel you. I gotta tell you, though,

2506
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 3: my god, dude, I completely completely say he's got to go.

2507
02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:20,440
Speaker 3: I just don't understand it. And there's a lot of

2508
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 3: grounds while supporting.

2509
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 2: Him, some like some some of this is just the

2510
02:13:27,160 --> 02:13:30,000
Speaker 2: fear of what else is out there, and it's a

2511
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 2: dangerous way into business. You know, I get that too.

2512
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:36,920
Speaker 2: It is you know, you can't just hold on to something.

2513
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:38,640
Speaker 2: You don't stay with the girl just because you're afraid

2514
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:41,320
Speaker 2: you're never gonna find somebody better like you. Just that's

2515
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 2: not a healthy What's he done? Nothing?

2516
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 3: I mean failed, And he's had home playoff games and failed.

2517
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

2518
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 2: The funny thing is if the logic is he just

2519
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 2: can't get it done in the playoffs, Well we didn't

2520
02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 2: get to see if that changed it all this year.

2521
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 2: Like it's weird how off the rails this season has gone.

2522
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:05,040
Speaker 2: It's been such that's yeah, I mean it's a disaster.

2523
02:14:05,120 --> 02:14:08,920
Speaker 2: And the roster is not in particularly a like the

2524
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:11,920
Speaker 2: money spent puts them in a weird situation for roster building.

2525
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, like if is it even

2526
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:19,320
Speaker 2: that desirable of a job? Like Charles Robinson for y'ah

2527
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:21,960
Speaker 2: who Sports ranked all of the jobs that are coming

2528
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 2: up and based on their quarterback situation and their contract situation.

2529
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:28,920
Speaker 2: How appealing is the job? And the Cowboys job was

2530
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,360
Speaker 2: like fifth of all of them. And that doesn't even

2531
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 2: factor in dealing with Jerry, dealing with the rest of

2532
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:37,520
Speaker 2: the rest of the team. That the lack of depth

2533
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:39,760
Speaker 2: all over that roster, the fact that you're in the

2534
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 2: same division is the Eagles and what looks like a

2535
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:45,000
Speaker 2: Washington team that's pretty good. Like, I don't know, I

2536
02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:47,400
Speaker 2: just we always say how appealing is this job? How

2537
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 2: appealing is that job? From from those metrics? How appealing

2538
02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 2: is this Cowboys job? If you've been if you're Johnson

2539
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,840
Speaker 2: or slowk either one, you have options elsewhere are you?

2540
02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 2: Are you flocking to the Cowboys?

2541
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:00,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude, It's still a cow Boys.

2542
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:03,520
Speaker 2: Right Bobby Hurley walked away from the Lakers. I used

2543
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:05,760
Speaker 2: that example earlier, But like I.

2544
02:15:05,800 --> 02:15:10,560
Speaker 3: Just man taken a job you would.

2545
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 2: Have Yeah, I would have one hundred percent. I just

2546
02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:15,879
Speaker 2: if you, if you have options, and not for everybody

2547
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,480
Speaker 2: that doesn't, but if you have options, don't you want

2548
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 2: to go somewhere where you have the most belief in

2549
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:25,200
Speaker 2: the structure, belief in the organization, belief in Like I

2550
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 2: mean That's why, according to all reports, Johnson turned down

2551
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 2: the Washington job last year, is that he just wasn't

2552
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:32,600
Speaker 2: comfortable with ownership GM all those things. Well, if he

2553
02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:34,920
Speaker 2: wasn't comfortable with that there, why the hell would he

2554
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:38,000
Speaker 2: be comfortable with that in the Cowboys. So I don't know.

2555
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:42,320
Speaker 3: I hear you, I hear you. I'd still go now

2556
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 3: I have a chance to coach the Cowboys. I mean,

2557
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to turn it down to coach where right.

2558
02:15:49,400 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair point. It depends on one of

2559
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 2: the openings, Like would you rather have the Bear's job

2560
02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:55,600
Speaker 2: or the Cowboys job? I'd rather Right now, if I

2561
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,280
Speaker 2: was walking in, I would probably rather have the Bears job.

2562
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think i'd like rob out Dallas.

2563
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm not particularly sold on Caleb.

2564
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:11,800
Speaker 2: Well, I want to be sold on Caleb. I do

2565
02:16:12,240 --> 02:16:16,160
Speaker 2: I think Caleb. I'm not less sold on Caleb than

2566
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:18,800
Speaker 2: I was. I think the Browns the Bears have done

2567
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:20,880
Speaker 2: a really good job of trying to ruin Caleb, like

2568
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 2: all bad franchises too. But I'm I'm everybody as sold

2569
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:28,000
Speaker 2: on Caleb as I am on Dak Like I think

2570
02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:30,840
Speaker 2: they're They're both they're both pretty good quarterbacks, like Caleb

2571
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:34,000
Speaker 2: can throw into being pretty good quarterback. I think, you know, yeah, Like.

2572
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 3: I look at Caleblego, he's not Daniels.

2573
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:43,440
Speaker 2: Do you think he do you think he won't become that?

2574
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 2: Do you think he can't? I can't be a top

2575
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:46,920
Speaker 2: ten quarterback.

2576
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:49,200
Speaker 3: In the league, Canny, I guess. I mean, I don't.

2577
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to know why I watch him. I

2578
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:55,440
Speaker 3: don't go, oh my god, I want to coach this kid.

2579
02:16:55,879 --> 02:16:57,880
Speaker 3: I don't see that.

2580
02:16:57,160 --> 02:16:59,960
Speaker 2: That is fair. I think in the pros he's been

2581
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:02,080
Speaker 2: exactly who he was in college, you know, And so

2582
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:03,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good thing or a

2583
02:17:03,480 --> 02:17:03,879
Speaker 2: bad thing.

2584
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:06,440
Speaker 3: You know, I just looked. I go, I'm not you know,

2585
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:09,520
Speaker 3: the quarterback spot right now? If I'm looking at both

2586
02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:13,600
Speaker 3: those jobs, it's not like I still go, it's the Cowboys,

2587
02:17:14,120 --> 02:17:17,400
Speaker 3: right like coaching the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know. I

2588
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 3: still go Dallas. I look at the Bears job, I go, eh,

2589
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:26,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like like if Caleb, if I fell,

2590
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:29,320
Speaker 3: Caleb was a savior, then that would take the Bears.

2591
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:32,160
Speaker 3: But he's not a big enough difference to me to

2592
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:33,560
Speaker 3: override the cowboy thing.

2593
02:17:33,879 --> 02:17:36,800
Speaker 2: I think that's where it gets really interesting, is you'll

2594
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:39,160
Speaker 2: we'll find out quickly how coaches run the league feel

2595
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:43,920
Speaker 2: about Caleb, because if you believe in Caleb, then the

2596
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:47,120
Speaker 2: Bears are one of the better jobs simply because you

2597
02:17:47,240 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 2: get the organization. They have some salary cap space, they

2598
02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:52,200
Speaker 2: need to work on their offensive line, but they do

2599
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:54,240
Speaker 2: have some weapons around them, and they have a quarterback.

2600
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:57,119
Speaker 2: And as I've said multiple times, I don't think Caleb.

2601
02:17:57,160 --> 02:17:59,760
Speaker 2: I think Caleb is set to be better than either

2602
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:02,400
Speaker 2: Door or Cam. So if you're taking a team, if

2603
02:18:02,400 --> 02:18:04,240
Speaker 2: you're taking the Giants job at the Raiders job for

2604
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:06,920
Speaker 2: the first overall pick, well, Caleb is a better quarterback

2605
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 2: than that, so you know, and then the question is

2606
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:11,800
Speaker 2: would you rather have Caleb at number one or would

2607
02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:14,280
Speaker 2: you have rather have Dak at sixty million dollars? And

2608
02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:16,200
Speaker 2: that's you know, that might be a bit more of

2609
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:17,840
Speaker 2: a toss up for some people, but I don't know.

2610
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's it's fascinating, I'll tell you that much.

2611
02:18:23,480 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 3: It's a great debate, it really is. Let's do one more.

2612
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 3: Let's go Washington and the Saints. The Saints are a seven.

2613
02:18:33,959 --> 02:18:37,359
Speaker 3: Excuse me watching it's a seven and a half point favorite.

2614
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:45,880
Speaker 3: They're they're dead, right. I mean it's the poor, poor Saints.

2615
02:18:46,040 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean they got nobody left.

2616
02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their entire roster, Like they're starting Jake

2617
02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:55,640
Speaker 2: Hayner at this point instead of their car and that's

2618
02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:57,840
Speaker 2: just yeah, this thing. And by the way, they're also

2619
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 2: locked into a bad situation with cars Contrac next year.

2620
02:19:00,640 --> 02:19:04,480
Speaker 2: So Saints in another situation that I think maybe it's

2621
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:06,760
Speaker 2: time They've they've been robbing Peter to pay Paul for

2622
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 2: so long. I think it's time to pipe Piper might

2623
02:19:09,200 --> 02:19:12,120
Speaker 2: finally pay a visit. With the salary cap situation that

2624
02:19:12,160 --> 02:19:13,720
Speaker 2: they have in some of the bad contracts, I think

2625
02:19:13,720 --> 02:19:15,840
Speaker 2: the Saints are about to rip this thing down to

2626
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:18,920
Speaker 2: the absolute studs and try and start a very slow,

2627
02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:21,080
Speaker 2: painful rebuild.

2628
02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:24,720
Speaker 3: Like to say, I would agree, it's time. All right,

2629
02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:28,320
Speaker 3: We'll take a quick t o. Fellas will come right

2630
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:33,400
Speaker 3: back and as we go through a very packed NFL Sunday,

2631
02:19:33,440 --> 02:19:36,080
Speaker 3: good's good games Sunday, of course, all the all the

2632
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:39,640
Speaker 3: later games are coming up. They're the best ones. Fella

2633
02:19:39,720 --> 02:19:43,279
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2634
02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:46,360
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2635
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2637
02:19:54,480 --> 02:20:05,680
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2638
02:20:05,800 --> 02:20:08,480
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02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:10,920
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2640
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:14,600
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2645
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:36,600
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2646
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:39,400
Speaker 3: get it, get it, get it, keep it going as

2647
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:48,920
Speaker 3: we go through the NFL card Bengals and Titans. The

2648
02:20:49,160 --> 02:20:52,640
Speaker 3: Bengals five and a half, Titans are another team name

2649
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:56,280
Speaker 3: what a mess? Another You're right, like, another three win

2650
02:20:56,440 --> 02:21:00,920
Speaker 3: team that stinks with no quiquaterback Hope.

2651
02:21:01,800 --> 02:21:04,119
Speaker 2: Well. Also, I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you.

2652
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,160
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals right now should be organizationally sending

2653
02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:11,560
Speaker 2: flowers over to the Jets every single day to say

2654
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:14,480
Speaker 2: thank you. Because if it weren't for the abject failure

2655
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:16,600
Speaker 2: of the New York Jets, the biggest story in the

2656
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:18,879
Speaker 2: NFL this year would be the failure of the Bengals.

2657
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:23,120
Speaker 2: How do you have an MVP caliber season from a

2658
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:26,240
Speaker 2: quarterback that's just crushing it with the wide receiver that's

2659
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:29,160
Speaker 2: absolutely great, And remember the other wide receiver that's been

2660
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:32,440
Speaker 2: on and off injured reserve are injury injury list this year.

2661
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:35,920
Speaker 2: You chose to keep them around because you believed that

2662
02:21:35,959 --> 02:21:39,640
Speaker 2: you were in a super Bowl window and now you suck, Like,

2663
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:44,040
Speaker 2: how does that happen? How can you organizationally blow it

2664
02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:47,480
Speaker 2: again with Joe Burrow? Like maybe I'm just angry because

2665
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:49,879
Speaker 2: my favorite team doesn't have a Joe Burrow, but damn it,

2666
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:51,560
Speaker 2: when you have a Joe Burrow, you should not be

2667
02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:54,240
Speaker 2: as bad as the Bengals are this year without everybody

2668
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:56,000
Speaker 2: in the entire building having to look in the mirror

2669
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:59,119
Speaker 2: and say, hey, I'm sorry, I failed. Every single person

2670
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:01,800
Speaker 2: that and it works for the Bengals right now that

2671
02:22:01,879 --> 02:22:04,520
Speaker 2: put this roster together and coaches this team needs to

2672
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:08,480
Speaker 2: look in the mirror and just slowly loudly say to themselves,

2673
02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:10,879
Speaker 2: I failed. Because if you've got a quarterback as good

2674
02:22:10,879 --> 02:22:13,240
Speaker 2: as he is, and you're this bad man. You are

2675
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:15,360
Speaker 2: inexcusably doing a bad job this year.

2676
02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:19,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that defense. This is no defense. I've about

2677
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:23,280
Speaker 3: to say. It's horrible, rash even you know, Chase Brown,

2678
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you failed at running game. Like

2679
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 3: he's a good complimentary back. Needs somebody else, and they

2680
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:36,200
Speaker 3: struggled there. I mean, do you have a tight end Kiseki?

2681
02:22:36,680 --> 02:22:40,240
Speaker 3: I mean all right, I mean there's I hated their roster,

2682
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:46,160
Speaker 3: what they put together. I'm with you, and Tennessee's a mess.

2683
02:22:46,920 --> 02:22:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tennessee, you know, I mean, Will Levis is

2684
02:22:50,120 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 2: not the answer. But the good news is I don't

2685
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,959
Speaker 2: think they'll be in a good situation to h to

2686
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:59,520
Speaker 2: get themselves a quarterback this year. So good news for

2687
02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:01,880
Speaker 2: the Titan. Just take the best player available you need.

2688
02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:03,959
Speaker 2: Lost a lot of roster work everywhere.

2689
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 3: Build it, you know, get it there. Chiefs Ed Brown's

2690
02:23:09,320 --> 02:23:11,920
Speaker 3: the Ken City Chiefs, a four and a half point

2691
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 3: favorite over Cleveland. They're the most entertaining three and ten team.

2692
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:23,160
Speaker 3: Would you agree of all the free teams, the Browns

2693
02:23:23,160 --> 02:23:24,199
Speaker 3: are the most entertaining.

2694
02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:30,959
Speaker 2: Yes, but also that's just because Jamis is Jamis right,

2695
02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Like I want to hear what Jamis says every every

2696
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:35,920
Speaker 2: step of the way. I just am so thankful he's

2697
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:38,920
Speaker 2: not my quarterback. Like praying away the pick six is

2698
02:23:38,560 --> 02:23:40,959
Speaker 2: is is an approach, right, you know. The weird thing

2699
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:44,840
Speaker 2: is that Jamis just he's such a lovable guy and

2700
02:23:44,879 --> 02:23:47,360
Speaker 2: the product sometimes is so good and the product sometimes

2701
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:51,560
Speaker 2: is so bad. So you know, that's it's just part

2702
02:23:51,560 --> 02:23:53,680
Speaker 2: of what they are. And the Browns are another team.

2703
02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I say coming into the year that I

2704
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:57,879
Speaker 2: thought most of this roster was super Bowl caliber, but

2705
02:23:57,920 --> 02:24:00,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback wasn't. And it turns out that the roster

2706
02:24:00,879 --> 02:24:03,720
Speaker 2: really isn't that good. I mean, the defense has been good,

2707
02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:07,240
Speaker 2: but just asking a herculean effort from all of them.

2708
02:24:07,720 --> 02:24:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Chubb gets hurt, right, so you lose

2709
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:15,040
Speaker 3: your stud rarting back. I mean, I love Kevin Stevanski.

2710
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:20,360
Speaker 3: It's not his fault that the organization got married to

2711
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:25,360
Speaker 3: just an abject failure, I mean, and then forced him

2712
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:28,160
Speaker 3: to stay there a state of course, Like who knows.

2713
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:32,240
Speaker 3: If you go to Jamis earlier, maybe you can savage something,

2714
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:37,080
Speaker 3: you know, but I don't know. I mean, at this point,

2715
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:39,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what you do with that guy, Like

2716
02:24:39,360 --> 02:24:40,800
Speaker 3: you got to get rid of him.

2717
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Nothing, I mean, you're screwed. Like there are certain times

2718
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:46,200
Speaker 2: where you just look around and say, Okay, you know,

2719
02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 2: like you and I have talked before, I'm the type

2720
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:51,200
Speaker 2: of person that in my career, if somebody hands me

2721
02:24:51,240 --> 02:24:53,560
Speaker 2: a shovel and says, your job is to shovel poop today,

2722
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:55,600
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna do it. I'm not gonna ask questions.

2723
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:57,440
Speaker 2: I would just say, all right, that's my job. Sometimes

2724
02:24:57,440 --> 02:24:59,760
Speaker 2: that's the cards you're don't let's just get let's just

2725
02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:02,240
Speaker 2: get through it. I think the Browns are in that

2726
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:04,720
Speaker 2: situation for the next two years because of the contract

2727
02:25:04,760 --> 02:25:07,560
Speaker 2: that Deshaun was given that there is nothing now that

2728
02:25:07,640 --> 02:25:09,680
Speaker 2: can be done to fix it. There's nothing now that

2729
02:25:09,720 --> 02:25:11,920
Speaker 2: will give them hope. There is nothing now that will

2730
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:13,920
Speaker 2: change any of it. The Browns are just going to

2731
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:16,200
Speaker 2: be bad. They're going to be bad next year, even

2732
02:25:16,200 --> 02:25:17,680
Speaker 2: if they try and find a way to trade or

2733
02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:20,080
Speaker 2: cut to Sean the salary cap. Hell, they'll be put

2734
02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 2: into will impack the next two or three years. Like

2735
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 2: it's just there is nothing you can do other than

2736
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:27,520
Speaker 2: stand there and take the kicks to the no no

2737
02:25:27,640 --> 02:25:30,480
Speaker 2: places that you're getting right now, and it's just it's

2738
02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:32,039
Speaker 2: a bummer. Nope, because I think there are a lot

2739
02:25:32,040 --> 02:25:34,680
Speaker 2: of good Browns fans that that never wanted this in

2740
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:37,240
Speaker 2: the first place. And it doesn't change the fact that

2741
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:39,959
Speaker 2: this is the situation that contract put. You can't change it.

2742
02:25:40,440 --> 02:25:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

2743
02:25:42,600 --> 02:25:42,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

2744
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:46,840
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Chiefs, the Chiefs are amazing how they just

2745
02:25:46,959 --> 02:25:54,320
Speaker 3: find ways to win. What's that like, Well, it's unbelievable.

2746
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 2: Right, We're going to be in New Orleans for the

2747
02:25:58,440 --> 02:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You know what you and I are going

2748
02:25:59,920 --> 02:26:03,200
Speaker 2: to We're gonna go to any witchcraft doctor, any voodoo

2749
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:05,480
Speaker 2: all place, and I'm gonna find out what voodoo do

2750
02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:08,120
Speaker 2: all the Chiefs bought, because I will buy one. Like,

2751
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:09,600
Speaker 2: if there's a deal to me, maybe with the devil,

2752
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:12,160
Speaker 2: hit me up, Like I'm in negotiations, right, let's go.

2753
02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:15,000
Speaker 2: You can have my soul. I really just want to

2754
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:17,080
Speaker 2: see a Super Bowl win for my beloved Raiders. Whatever

2755
02:26:17,720 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have done, I respect it. I'm not even

2756
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:22,480
Speaker 2: mad at it at this point. The fact that we

2757
02:26:22,480 --> 02:26:25,480
Speaker 2: were all sitting there with you know, a minute to

2758
02:26:25,480 --> 02:26:27,840
Speaker 2: go in the game, thinking well, they're gonna win this somehow.

2759
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 2: The question is just how I'm convinced in the Super

2760
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:33,879
Speaker 2: Bowl that there will be a Hail Mary pass. Somehow

2761
02:26:33,959 --> 02:26:36,880
Speaker 2: Jesus will ascend himself from the jumbo tron and he

2762
02:26:36,879 --> 02:26:38,880
Speaker 2: will take the ball, and he will deliver the ball

2763
02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:40,360
Speaker 2: to the end zone and we will all say, how

2764
02:26:40,360 --> 02:26:42,760
Speaker 2: did that happen? Like, it's just I cannot bet against

2765
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:45,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I cannot explain the Chiefs. I don't care

2766
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:48,160
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs aren't good enough. All they do is

2767
02:26:48,320 --> 02:26:51,640
Speaker 2: win every week, and it is just it's maddening and

2768
02:26:51,640 --> 02:26:53,080
Speaker 2: beautiful all at the same time.

2769
02:26:54,480 --> 02:26:57,280
Speaker 3: It really is. By the way, we can go to

2770
02:26:57,560 --> 02:27:07,720
Speaker 3: Marie Levoe's how So Voodoo or read those Yes, yeah

2771
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:12,640
Speaker 3: we got that one, or Voodoo Authentica on six twelve

2772
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:15,200
Speaker 3: do Main Street?

2773
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,000
Speaker 2: And why do we go in? Either or?

2774
02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:20,920
Speaker 3: And then we go right, we'll go to both. And then,

2775
02:27:20,959 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 3: by the way, the voodoo Queen of New Orleans today

2776
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:27,480
Speaker 3: is Voodoo Queen Kilinda Levell.

2777
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:32,360
Speaker 2: All right, you know what I think I think we're

2778
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:35,200
Speaker 2: I think content is king. I'm gonna get somebody to

2779
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:37,640
Speaker 2: film us going in and I'm just gonna make as

2780
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:40,160
Speaker 2: many voodoo deals as I can to try and help

2781
02:27:40,240 --> 02:27:43,520
Speaker 2: the Raiders win and if the Raiders win like thirteen

2782
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:45,600
Speaker 2: games next year, man, you and I are going to

2783
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:47,880
Speaker 2: be making a trek back to non Lens every single year.

2784
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:51,119
Speaker 2: I should also never say Noblets again.

2785
02:27:52,400 --> 02:27:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we're gonna go quickly because all the

2786
02:27:57,640 --> 02:27:59,520
Speaker 3: good games are coming up. We're we're talking about all

2787
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:03,520
Speaker 3: the bad ones. Houston Miami Texans are a three point favorite.

2788
02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:06,720
Speaker 3: Why are the Texas only three? I like the Texas

2789
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:07,840
Speaker 3: a ton in this game.

2790
02:28:08,879 --> 02:28:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah I do too. I'm a little surprised that that's

2791
02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:14,400
Speaker 2: only three points. The Texans not as good as we

2792
02:28:14,440 --> 02:28:16,840
Speaker 2: thought they'd beat the Dolphins, better than we think they

2793
02:28:16,840 --> 02:28:19,440
Speaker 2: would be in some ways. But yeah, this this is

2794
02:28:19,600 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 2: this is that statement moment for the Techny.

2795
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 3: Think injuries like had really decimated that that Texans team,

2796
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:28,720
Speaker 3: like they've they didn't in it, Like their line was

2797
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:32,880
Speaker 3: was banged up, was dinged up. That called CJ to

2798
02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:36,280
Speaker 3: get a lot of pressure, some bad habits, you know.

2799
02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:38,320
Speaker 3: I think that's a that's a big part of it.

2800
02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:42,760
Speaker 3: I expect a big effort from Houston on Sunday tomorrow.

2801
02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:43,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

2802
02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Denver and the Colts Denver's four and a half. Denver

2803
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,000
Speaker 3: is such a great story and they are just a

2804
02:28:50,120 --> 02:28:54,080
Speaker 3: blast to watch. I mean that Peyton speaking of the voodoo,

2805
02:28:54,320 --> 02:28:58,080
Speaker 3: he did some voodoo because he's just a great coach man.

2806
02:28:58,400 --> 02:29:01,720
Speaker 3: Oh god, he really is. They're coming off there by

2807
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:04,119
Speaker 3: then they host Indianapolis.

2808
02:29:05,480 --> 02:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna crush Indianapolis. I think their defense is

2809
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:12,480
Speaker 2: too good and we'll make too many mistakes happen for

2810
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:15,840
Speaker 2: the Broncos offensively or for the Colts offensively, I should say.

2811
02:29:16,760 --> 02:29:21,920
Speaker 2: And the way Sean Payton has particularly limited Bonix's mistakes,

2812
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:25,000
Speaker 2: not just turnovers, but even on bad reads, bad throws,

2813
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:28,040
Speaker 2: He's limited so much of that. It's really it's a

2814
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:29,440
Speaker 2: work of art because they don't have a ton of

2815
02:29:29,480 --> 02:29:31,960
Speaker 2: talent on the offensive side. If this is just the

2816
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:34,280
Speaker 2: beginning of the iceberg for Denver, Denver's about to be

2817
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:35,480
Speaker 2: very good for long.

2818
02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, New England at Arizona begins the late games.

2819
02:29:43,560 --> 02:29:48,440
Speaker 3: Arizona is an eight point favorite, and I gotta believe

2820
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:51,680
Speaker 3: it's a route city. I mean, I know, I know

2821
02:29:51,800 --> 02:29:54,680
Speaker 3: they're six and seven. We had a bad loss, but

2822
02:29:55,040 --> 02:29:57,760
Speaker 3: excuse me, there a six point favorite. I think they

2823
02:29:57,920 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 3: buried in Wingle. New Wingles a bad team.

2824
02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, agree on that, and congrats because New England will

2825
02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:05,600
Speaker 2: pick third and they'll get Travis Hunter.

2826
02:30:05,920 --> 02:30:07,320
Speaker 3: All right, so let's get to the good games.

2827
02:30:07,360 --> 02:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Here we are.

2828
02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:12,720
Speaker 3: Here are the good games. We got Bills and Lions,

2829
02:30:12,959 --> 02:30:16,760
Speaker 3: which is the game of the day. The Lions are

2830
02:30:16,840 --> 02:30:20,199
Speaker 3: a two and a half point favorite. The totals fifty

2831
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:24,000
Speaker 3: four and a half. Now, I feel strongly about this game.

2832
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:30,039
Speaker 3: I think the Lions flex Sunday. I think the Lions

2833
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:34,680
Speaker 3: win that game by double digits. I just think their

2834
02:30:34,720 --> 02:30:39,280
Speaker 3: offense is way too good. Buffalo's banged up defensively, and

2835
02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:43,080
Speaker 3: I can't see Buffalo stop at Detroit, and Detroit's looking

2836
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:45,039
Speaker 3: to make a statement. I think they make a statement

2837
02:30:45,120 --> 02:30:47,680
Speaker 3: on the Bills. I still like the Bills. I think

2838
02:30:47,720 --> 02:30:50,360
Speaker 3: they're banged up and they're walking into the Dome, which

2839
02:30:50,440 --> 02:30:51,080
Speaker 3: is abuzz saw.

2840
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, there's just a heightened level of pressure on

2841
02:30:55,800 --> 02:30:58,760
Speaker 2: the Lions in general. Not pressure in the sense of

2842
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:02,160
Speaker 2: our expectation win, but the Lions understand that right now,

2843
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:05,120
Speaker 2: picking up a second loss at any point that the

2844
02:31:05,440 --> 02:31:07,680
Speaker 2: rest of the season could actually result in having to

2845
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:09,880
Speaker 2: play on the first weekend of the playoffs and not

2846
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:12,600
Speaker 2: getting a buye. Like that's crazy to think it could

2847
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 2: happen that way, But a two loss team could be

2848
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:18,000
Speaker 2: playing in Wildcard weekend in the NFC. So if you're

2849
02:31:18,800 --> 02:31:22,440
Speaker 2: if you're the Lions right now, you're heightened. Everything's heightened,

2850
02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:24,640
Speaker 2: And I'm with you. The injuries on the defensive side

2851
02:31:24,680 --> 02:31:26,360
Speaker 2: of the ball. Amari Cooper had a bit of a

2852
02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:29,720
Speaker 2: breakout last week for Buffalo. Let's see if that continues.

2853
02:31:29,800 --> 02:31:32,360
Speaker 2: Let's see if they can expose anything out of that

2854
02:31:32,560 --> 02:31:34,560
Speaker 2: Lions defense. Let's see if they can get a little

2855
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:36,600
Speaker 2: action going, if they get Amargo and I might see

2856
02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:38,520
Speaker 2: this game differently, but I'm with you. I think the

2857
02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:39,039
Speaker 2: Lions win.

2858
02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:41,240
Speaker 3: All Right, We'll come back and take a look at

2859
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:42,879
Speaker 3: the rest of the slate and wrap it up. Where

2860
02:31:42,920 --> 02:31:45,360
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2861
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,560
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2862
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2864
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2865
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:07,080
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2866
02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:13,920
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2867
02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:19,360
Speaker 3: my way? He rod goes a little ginger bells.

2868
02:32:20,480 --> 02:32:22,600
Speaker 2: He asked, he got, He's like, hey, do your mind

2869
02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:25,120
Speaker 2: and heck no, like this is Christmas to be like

2870
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:27,800
Speaker 2: you put this on a like put Frank on vinyl,

2871
02:32:28,040 --> 02:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Play through the house again, Dim Christmas lights are out?

2872
02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh god, just injected in my veins. Injected in my veins.

2873
02:32:35,560 --> 02:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Well yeah, three edibles and some Franks my day.

2874
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good day, man, that's a great day.

2875
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Rother I agree. I think that's an excellent choice by

2876
02:32:47,360 --> 02:32:50,240
Speaker 3: Mighty Mark, our great sound engineer and of course our

2877
02:32:50,280 --> 02:32:54,000
Speaker 3: great producer A Brianna. Thank you guys. And it's a

2878
02:32:54,040 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 3: great choice, great holiday choice. All right, let's get let's

2879
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:03,280
Speaker 3: go for it. Tampa and the Chargers were up to

2880
02:33:03,400 --> 02:33:07,160
Speaker 3: this one. Chargers three point favorite over Tampa. I like

2881
02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:08,200
Speaker 3: Charges in this game.

2882
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Chargers in this game a lot.

2883
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:14,000
Speaker 2: And again talk about teams ahead of schedule. Where the

2884
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Chargers are right now? Absolutely Tampa. Tampa has been able

2885
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:20,280
Speaker 2: to put band aids on this thing, but they're just

2886
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:23,320
Speaker 2: not They're not where they need to be right now. Yeah.

2887
02:33:23,800 --> 02:33:28,480
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I love with I love with Harball.

2888
02:33:28,520 --> 02:33:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm a big Horrball fan. He's fantastic. Uh Eagles.

2889
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 2: Remember the Bears decided not to hire him and the

2890
02:33:34,879 --> 02:33:36,120
Speaker 2: Raiders didn't even interview him.

2891
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Go, dude, I hold you understand that. I just don't

2892
02:33:39,200 --> 02:33:42,560
Speaker 3: get it. I really don't. You know, look what he's

2893
02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:47,039
Speaker 3: done with Herbert. Oh my god, he's such a great coach.

2894
02:33:48,320 --> 02:33:51,840
Speaker 3: Steelers in Eagles. Eagles are five and a half. That's

2895
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:57,480
Speaker 3: a big fat line. The Battle of Pennsylvania. This will

2896
02:33:57,560 --> 02:34:02,240
Speaker 3: be the toughest front the Eagle faced. The only thing

2897
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:06,800
Speaker 3: is no George Pickens really depletes the Steeler offense.

2898
02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is sort of an exposed

2899
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:13,760
Speaker 2: moment for both teams because the Steelers offense is really

2900
02:34:13,800 --> 02:34:15,480
Speaker 2: going to get exposed in this when they take on

2901
02:34:15,879 --> 02:34:20,040
Speaker 2: a defense that's gonna destroy what they're Yeah. Yeah, there's

2902
02:34:20,040 --> 02:34:22,080
Speaker 2: no doubt, especially like they're not gonna be able to

2903
02:34:22,120 --> 02:34:24,040
Speaker 2: get a running game going, so that that's not gonna happen.

2904
02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 2: And then the flip side of it is the Steelers

2905
02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:27,760
Speaker 2: defense I think is one of the best in the

2906
02:34:27,879 --> 02:34:30,720
Speaker 2: NFL right now. So you know, when we're sitting here

2907
02:34:30,760 --> 02:34:33,040
Speaker 2: talking about the passing games got to get fixed, well

2908
02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:36,039
Speaker 2: you're gonna. I mean, it's a very good offensive line,

2909
02:34:36,080 --> 02:34:38,360
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. But we also know that

2910
02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:42,040
Speaker 2: Steelers defensive line is full of game wreckers. So yeah,

2911
02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see which offense looks more exposed in

2912
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:48,640
Speaker 2: this one, So I think the Eagles went pretty pretty

2913
02:34:48,680 --> 02:34:51,520
Speaker 2: handily here. But that's just because they have more weapons

2914
02:34:51,560 --> 02:34:54,120
Speaker 2: and more opportunity to zig and zag throughout the course

2915
02:34:54,160 --> 02:34:55,480
Speaker 2: of whatever they need to counter punch.

2916
02:34:56,200 --> 02:34:58,440
Speaker 3: All right, so you lay it right, I like DeAndre.

2917
02:34:58,480 --> 02:35:00,840
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be close on I think the

2918
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:01,920
Speaker 3: close scoring game.

2919
02:35:02,040 --> 02:35:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

2920
02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:07,720
Speaker 3: This Sunday Nighter is a really good game. Man, Seattle

2921
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:12,120
Speaker 3: in Green Bay. I love this game. This is this

2922
02:35:12,320 --> 02:35:15,400
Speaker 3: is a great one. And by the way, the Packers

2923
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:18,040
Speaker 3: are a two and a half point favorite on the road.

2924
02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:20,760
Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised to that in number, to

2925
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:21,480
Speaker 3: be honest.

2926
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 2: With you, I think it speaks to the fact that

2927
02:35:24,520 --> 02:35:27,040
Speaker 2: the home environment of Seattle's not getting a lot of

2928
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:30,800
Speaker 2: respect in this And look, this is also a Packers team.

2929
02:35:30,840 --> 02:35:32,400
Speaker 2: As you know. I've been tough on Jordan Love, but

2930
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:36,480
Speaker 2: so Packers team that has found so much offense. It's

2931
02:35:36,879 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 2: it's fun to watch and I feel like I would

2932
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:41,440
Speaker 2: be a little bit more confident in this game for

2933
02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Seattle if Kenneth Walker the third was available. Charbonnay has

2934
02:35:44,200 --> 02:35:47,600
Speaker 2: done a nice job stepping in, but man know, Kenneth

2935
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:49,720
Speaker 2: Walker the third, presumably in this game, is going to

2936
02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:52,960
Speaker 2: make a huge difference. So you know, I think the honestly,

2937
02:35:53,080 --> 02:35:55,640
Speaker 2: this is Josh Jacobs game to take over. He will

2938
02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:56,879
Speaker 2: He's gonna.

2939
02:35:56,840 --> 02:36:00,560
Speaker 3: Don't you like Seattle defense is playing very much?

2940
02:36:00,600 --> 02:36:04,240
Speaker 2: I do very much. So, Yeah, there's no doubt this

2941
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:07,160
Speaker 2: is This is not a statement against Seattle. It's just

2942
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where Seattle generates the offense are gonna

2943
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 2: need to, which is kind of crazy to say, given

2944
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:15,360
Speaker 2: their wide receiver options. I get that, but yeah, I.

2945
02:36:15,879 --> 02:36:18,720
Speaker 3: Think it's a bay right.

2946
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt Jackson Smith and JIGM is so good

2947
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:24,320
Speaker 2: that we almost forget about T. K. Metcalf, who is

2948
02:36:24,360 --> 02:36:27,640
Speaker 2: also very good. Right, Like, it's just Tyler Lockett was

2949
02:36:27,680 --> 02:36:30,080
Speaker 2: supposed to be the future wide receiver one for them,

2950
02:36:30,120 --> 02:36:32,720
Speaker 2: and like now he's like a wide receiver three. It's

2951
02:36:32,760 --> 02:36:35,040
Speaker 2: barely even a part of this game. And and then

2952
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,520
Speaker 2: like I said, whether it's Starbonnet or whether it's Kenneth

2953
02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:40,360
Speaker 2: Walker the third, there are running options like this offense

2954
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:41,760
Speaker 2: has all the tools you could hope for.

2955
02:36:42,600 --> 02:36:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I kind of like Seattle

2956
02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:48,640
Speaker 3: in the game. I think see I think the Seas

2957
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:49,320
Speaker 3: win this game.

2958
02:36:49,360 --> 02:36:49,520
Speaker 2: Out.

2959
02:36:50,360 --> 02:36:51,720
Speaker 3: I like Green Bay.

2960
02:36:53,320 --> 02:36:53,560
Speaker 2: I do.

2961
02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:57,200
Speaker 3: I like, if I'm want to rag the NFC, I

2962
02:36:57,280 --> 02:37:03,400
Speaker 3: go Eagles, I go uh lion one Eagles to Minnesota

2963
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:08,760
Speaker 3: green Bay three A, three B. I mean that's kind

2964
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:11,920
Speaker 3: of how I look at it, right, So I like them.

2965
02:37:12,160 --> 02:37:15,120
Speaker 3: But you know, my biggest question about Green Bay is

2966
02:37:15,360 --> 02:37:16,640
Speaker 3: how good is it's defense?

2967
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:21,400
Speaker 2: M Is there a questions?

2968
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:24,960
Speaker 3: And that because look, their offense is you know, I

2969
02:37:25,200 --> 02:37:27,560
Speaker 3: like love and I like, I'm like Jacob's the whole thing,

2970
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,640
Speaker 3: but They're not as good as the Lions offense, right, Like,

2971
02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:33,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I know what happened you on

2972
02:37:33,240 --> 02:37:34,800
Speaker 3: Thursday night and they were in it and the whole thing.

2973
02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:37,920
Speaker 3: But I'm still not in love with their defense.

2974
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:41,880
Speaker 2: No. I agree with that take completely, by the way,

2975
02:37:42,000 --> 02:37:44,720
Speaker 2: And you know, I think, frankly it speaks to how

2976
02:37:44,760 --> 02:37:46,600
Speaker 2: good their offense has been and what a job La

2977
02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:48,760
Speaker 2: Floor has done it. You know, when you talk about

2978
02:37:48,760 --> 02:37:51,440
Speaker 2: the elite teams in the NFC, most of them have

2979
02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:53,920
Speaker 2: a defense that can be a game wrecker, right And

2980
02:37:54,040 --> 02:37:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the case for when you

2981
02:37:56,200 --> 02:37:59,000
Speaker 2: talk about Minnesota. We've seen how good Minnesota's defense can be.

2982
02:37:59,080 --> 02:38:01,120
Speaker 2: Up right, take a little step right, we see how

2983
02:38:01,200 --> 02:38:03,560
Speaker 2: good that defense has been. We know how good the

2984
02:38:03,640 --> 02:38:06,760
Speaker 2: Lion's defense can be, although they're decimated by injuries. We

2985
02:38:06,879 --> 02:38:08,960
Speaker 2: know how good the Eagles defense is. The Packers is

2986
02:38:09,040 --> 02:38:09,920
Speaker 2: not on that same level.

2987
02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Maniso the Monday Night Minsulda Bears likes for seven.

2988
02:38:14,480 --> 02:38:17,400
Speaker 3: I like them Monday Night, FITZI. And then your Raiders,

2989
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:20,400
Speaker 3: your Raiders killed four.

2990
02:38:22,040 --> 02:38:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, killed, Raiders is gonna get. They're gonna get Desmond

2991
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Ridder is going to be the quarterback. Now the Raiders

2992
02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:27,920
Speaker 2: an't going to score any points?

2993
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:32,199
Speaker 3: Oh god, I know, I feel for you. That's gonna

2994
02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:34,040
Speaker 3: do it for us. Everybody have a great week. We

2995
02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:35,640
Speaker 3: love you. Fellas are out