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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: is that woo woom?

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Speaker 3: And Dean and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 3: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand. That fine

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Speaker 3: gentleman over there as always the illustrious Dan Rubinstein. Sir,

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Speaker 3: have you started making preparations to get your face painted

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Speaker 3: as a tiger in a couple of weeks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I still am going to insist on

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Speaker 1: going the orange standard Bengal tiger look rather than an

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Speaker 1: LSU purple and gold, purple and yellow whatever look like.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go classic with it because I

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Speaker 1: did lose our bet against the spread with regards to

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Speaker 1: the auburn LSU outcome, and so I will be getting

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Speaker 1: a children's face painting job done on my beautiful moneymaker

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Speaker 1: for our Patreon only Q and a show during Halloween week?

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I believe that is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be the Hey, I'm going to look great.

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Speaker 1: The worst part of it is not appearing on video

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Speaker 1: because of LSU's inability to cover the spread with no

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the roster. The worst part of it is

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Speaker 1: the phone call that I'm going to have to make

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Speaker 1: to a professional who does not have his or her

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Speaker 3: Can you pay my face at eight thirty in the

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Speaker 3: morning in a target parking lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. So love it well.

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Speaker 3: Welcome one, Welcome all. Week five was a real hoot.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go through that momentarily this episode, all

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Speaker 3: of our episodes, driven by our good friends over at Geigo.

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Speaker 3: We've got a number of folks who are watching live

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Speaker 3: on verballers dot com and a number of folks at

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Speaker 3: forballers dot com who voted in our brand spanking new

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Speaker 3: top ten poll, which is as follow number one, Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: unpack that momentarily, rounding out the top five Michigan and Clemson,

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Speaker 3: and then six through ten where it ever remains spicy.

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Speaker 3: We've got usc Tennessee, Oklahoma State, Penn State at nine,

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Speaker 3: and welcome to the top ten, Ole Miss by virtue

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Speaker 3: of your window over Kentucky, their first appearance in the

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Speaker 3: verballers dot com Top ten poll. Why don't we get

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Speaker 3: started where we always start on our weekly recap episodes.

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Speaker 3: We got a bunch of phone calls. Our guy Shay

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Speaker 3: was working deep into the night to put them together

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Speaker 3: into a little segment we like to call the reverbs.

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Speaker 3: Here's the pulse of college football. I don't know the

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Speaker 3: college Football World Week five. He'll listen.

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Speaker 4: After watching that Penn State Northwestern game while pregnant and

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Speaker 4: hearing the word turnover so many times, I had to

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Speaker 4: apple turnovers.

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Speaker 3: We are.

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Speaker 2: This is Tristan from Ohio. Hey, this is Jeffrey, the

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Speaker 5: Hello Italian Dan. This is tried from Starkville, Mississippi. We

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Speaker 5: always knew that Texas A and M was Mississippi State's

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Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here at the end of the night,

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Speaker 4: just reflecting on this loss the Mississippi State thinking, oh man,

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Speaker 4: maybe we were gonna win our clunker, and then just

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Speaker 4: maybe we were a Mississippi State's clunker all along. My

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Speaker 4: Razorbacks have managed to break my heart two weeks.

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Speaker 6: In a row.

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Speaker 4: Go hog wance, a Razorback, always a Razorback.

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Speaker 2: But this is brutal all.

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Speaker 7: For one, I'm relieve that my Georgia Bulldogs won a

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Speaker 2: Get to help me deal with the pain.

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Speaker 1: Is a Oklahoma game, and well.

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Speaker 7: Say, if you just scored again, Hey Dan, if keeps

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Speaker 7: you feel the worst team in the Big twelve, Dan

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Speaker 7: is sitting catch the game's eight, Dan, go frog fight on?

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Speaker 7: Oh you sooners fight on to victory. Don't you think

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Speaker 2: They're coming for you. Iowa State versus Kansas, Matt Campbell

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Speaker 2: Good thing they're phonn Beers and the Bees right now

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Speaker 6: We are the Big ten West and atp Coastal are

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Speaker 2: The only thing that went wrong for Wisconsin today was

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Speaker 2: The moral of this Saturday is if you gave a

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Speaker 3: All right, those are your week five reverbs? Yeah, lively

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Speaker 3: as always, Dan, Welcome to October. It was a can

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Speaker 3: we still call it Brocktober even though he's no longer

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Speaker 3: of course on the road, but nonetheless Georgia Miszoo did

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Speaker 3: five the rest of the way. Yeah, I thought about it.

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Speaker 3: I thought about grabbing it. I'm glad I didn't do it,

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Speaker 3: in terms of you know, clunkerness or whatever terminology we

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Speaker 1: A little bit? A little bit in that there are

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Speaker 1: elements of this offense and the lack of explosion, the

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Speaker 1: there is a sleepwalking element to what Georgia can offer

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Speaker 1: there is something to Kirby Smart and Todd Mounkins saying

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Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about their more difficult November. But it's worrisome.

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Speaker 3: Georgia's got a road tilt against Mississippi State and Kentucky

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Speaker 3: back to back weeks, middle two weeks, right November, so

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Speaker 1: I think part of it is just what we saw

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Speaker 1: they still have all sort you know, Jalen Carter got

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Speaker 1: the attention that he demands. But look, everybody, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is true of every team. This is true of Clemson,

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Speaker 1: the playoff most if not every year. Is that we

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Speaker 1: all collectively get these brain lizards because of Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: that we expect these teams to win by twenty eight

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Speaker 1: But yeah, of course Georgia should be beating Miszoo by

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Speaker 1: a bajillion points. Massoo just struggled with Auburn Missouo has

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Speaker 1: struggled these past couple of years under Eli Drinkwitz against

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Speaker 1: that it's okay to win clunkers even with an incredibly

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Speaker 3: Georgia's offense, as I said, out of sync on the

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Speaker 3: day four of thirteen on third downs two turnovers. Miszoo,

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Speaker 1: For a while.

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Speaker 1: Should point out Michigan's good. Michigan's a really good team

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Speaker 3: What is it that you say that you do here?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it just floated out. Getting next time. Sure, I

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Speaker 3: happening this year.

436
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Speaker 1: So it's a beat up Clemson defense, which by the way,

437
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: came to play and made so NC State is interesting.

438
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I like their players a good deal. I like Devin Leary,

439
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: especially like their front seven on defense. But the defense

440
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: was done no favors by its own offense. And we

441
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: have sort of used the term pickleball this year, and

442
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: this is what NC State was last year. When you

443
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: have to rely on a number of plays, When you

444
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: have to rely on nine, ten, eleven play drives to

445
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: get into the end zone, it's more opportunity for college

446
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: kids to mess up. It's more opportunities for not getting

447
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: third downs when you face eleven third downs versus facing

448
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: twenty third downs and I don't know how many NC

449
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: State faced in this game against a good Clemson defense,

450
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: It's it's more difficult to have to convert all the time.

451
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: And so NC State is limited by its offense, limited

452
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Speaker 1: by an inability to generate bigger play. And Clemson, for

453
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: its part, they don't have a star number one receiver.

454
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Speaker 1: They don't, but guess what they've done. They've used DJU

455
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: in the running game, They've used Will Shipley in the

456
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: passing game. They've developed tight ends this year. I think

457
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: it was Brinning Stool, the big guy. Yeah, you can't

458
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: even say his name without his height, right, he's like

459
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: all the big six six tight end again. Not put

460
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: that ball up where only he can get it in

461
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: the red zone, and they do. DJU has done a

462
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: really good job. I have been impressed by dju's evolution

463
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: and the I think the coaching that Brandon Streeter has done,

464
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: not putting him in a position to constant like NC

465
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Speaker 1: State was not going to allow a ton downfield, and

466
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Speaker 1: I guess neither were the Clemson receivers. And they didn't try.

467
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Speaker 1: They didn't take a ton of shots like they were

468
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Speaker 1: able to do against Wake and succeed the week before.

469
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Speaker 1: So I thought it was game planned really well. I

470
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Speaker 1: thought it was executed pretty well. They go down early,

471
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Speaker 1: there's no panic to Clemson and Yeah, I'm I'm impressed

472
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Speaker 1: by the Tigers and a little bit disappointed by NC State.

473
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Speaker 1: And there is a good amount of like Dabbo revisionism

474
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Speaker 1: right now. By the way, was like you guys all

475
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: doubted DJ. Everybody wrote him off, you wrote your little stories.

476
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: Guess who said caid Clubnick's too good to keep off

477
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: the field in August? Guess who said caid club Nick's

478
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna play He's he gives our offense a new dimension

479
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: with his speed and his accuracy. Yeah, Dabbo and Brandon Streeter.

480
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: Guess who doesn't say things like that Ryan Day about

481
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, Nick Saban about Bryce Young. Right, so

482
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of revisionism. It's okay, it's the Dabbo

483
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: sweety way. But good for Clemson forgetting that W in

484
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: a tough spot.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, I thought a really high level game.

486
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: Like I said, not everything about the game was high level,

487
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: but just in general it was. It was two really

488
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: good teams going at it, and that was to watch,

489
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 3: fun to watch. Definitely, let's go to Old Miss Kentucky.

490
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Speaker 1: Woo. How about Towan? You are Will Levis's hands.

491
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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty two nineteen Old Miss gets the dub. This

492
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: one shockingly went exactly the way we described on Thursday. Yeah,

493
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: it honestly, it went exactly the way we described it.

494
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: The only variable that we did not see coming, that

495
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: you never can see coming was all the Kentucky mistakes.

496
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: And if you're a Kentucky fan, that was very frustrating

497
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: because they had their chances here, right. I mean, two

498
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: fumbles late in the game, both inside the red zone

499
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: from your star quarterback is not a great look and

500
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Speaker 3: not a way you win on the road in the SEC.

501
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: It did look for a moment as if Kentucky had

502
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Speaker 3: the go ahead touchdown with about a minute left, but

503
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: that was also called back for illegal motion, and then

504
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: the play after that is when Will Lolvis fumbled the

505
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: ball away. In addition to that, Kentucky also botched two

506
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: extra points. They missed a field goal again on the

507
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Speaker 3: road in the SEC against an undefeated team with good

508
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: defense and pretty good offense. Like, that's just not the

509
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: formula for success. I did think on the Kentucky side,

510
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to harp on all the negative. Getting

511
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: Christopher Rodriguez back was a nice lift for them. He

512
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: clearly came back and made an impact in the running game,

513
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: but it really was a story for me of missed

514
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: opportunities on the Kentucky side. They were definitely good enough

515
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: to win this game. It just was they couldn't execute.

516
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: And Ole Miss played really sound defensively as a have

517
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: all year, and especially when it counted most, when they

518
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: were backed up inside their own red zone.

519
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Ole Miss is a good team, and

520
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: when you play a good team on the road, you

521
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: can't make errors like fumbles like Will Levis had his couple.

522
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: You can't have the key penalty and the key moment.

523
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Speaker 1: And I was I think I came away as good

524
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Speaker 1: as was a Quinn Shawn Judkins, the sort of I

525
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: guess freshman star at running back. We all thought Zach

526
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: Evans and obviously it's transfers all over the place for

527
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: ole Miss, but I mean, his burst is pretty crazy.

528
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: I love watching him. Kentucky had the super long was

529
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: it a kickoff returne from barryon Brown and so they

530
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Speaker 1: had their one of their touchdowns was on like a

531
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Speaker 1: fourteen yard field or fifteen yard field. So I came

532
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: away more impressed with Old Miss stepping up situationally on

533
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: defense with some of the playmakers that have emerged for Kentucky.

534
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: That ole Miss's defense losing DJ Diurkin continues to evolve

535
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: and get better, and they filled in obviously gaps in

536
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: the portal. But really strong performance. Excuse me from Old

537
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Miss doing it in a different way right, doing it

538
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: on the ground more than anything, you know, losing running backs,

539
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: adding running backs, losing Matt Corral, not being like a

540
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: downfield bombing team with Jackson Dart who himself he's picking

541
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: up tough yards on the ground. So evolving and adjusting.

542
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: Really strong day for ole Miss.

543
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: It is October the second, yes, here is the remainder

544
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Speaker 3: of ole Miss's schedule. They go to Vandy next week,

545
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: They've got Auburn, they go to LSU two, Texas A

546
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: and M Those games don't look as daunting as maybe

547
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: they did the start of the year. Now they do

548
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: have a tough stretch throughout the latter half of November

549
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: with Alabama, Arkansas and Mississippi State that I believe will

550
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: test them. But Dan Rubinstein, it is October two. I

551
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but I'm feeling ten and two

552
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: for all God.

553
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: I was hopeful that you were going to add in

554
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: your own voice and say have ten and two over

555
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: twenty two, and it's still great. But I was hoping.

556
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm feeling ten in too. For old mess that's pretty good. Wow.

557
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, another double digit win season. So they have look

558
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: you outline the schedule, they have winnable games, ls Who's offense,

559
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: Auburn's existence, Texas A and M's offense.

560
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: Even Alabama, even Alabama Mississippi. I mean, I don't know

561
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: the sense that I am getting for teams now. I mean,

562
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: how quickly things change in a week, right, But the

563
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: sense that I'm getting, just broadly speaking in college football, yeah,

564
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: is that Ohio State may be untouchable, but Georgia might

565
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: be a little bit more gettable. Alabama might be a

566
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: little bit more gettable. I don't know, Like this could

567
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: be more interesting than we thought at the start of

568
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: the year, which.

569
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Speaker 1: Is kind of cool. Yeah, Alabama, I mean Bryce Young's injuries,

570
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: hopefully he's all right. That changes a little bit of calculus.

571
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Maybe in the short term with Jalen Nolrow, who's just

572
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: a ridiculous runner, but we'll see what the offense can

573
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: look like for Alabama. We'll get into that momentarily, I'm sure.

574
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: But it's also like better teams are going to look

575
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: at Ole Miss and better teams than Kentucky, who they

576
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: themselves are a good team, are going to say, all right,

577
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart beat us, Yeah, beat us, beat us, beat us.

578
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: Here's forty four guys in the box. Beat us.

579
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: Let's go over to TCU fifty five Oklahoma twenty four. Yes, yeah,

580
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: you just got holy crap. Daniel, Yeah, okay. Dylan Gabriel

581
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: took a scary shot in the head he had to

582
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: leave in the second quarter. That clearly had an effect

583
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: Davis Bevel, their backup quarterback. The pit transfer came in.

584
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't all that great. But even before that, Dan, Yeah,

585
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: oh boy, the Oklahoma defense, or lack thereof, was clearly

586
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: a very big story here. This was an all time

587
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: Leaky Roof effort from Ted Roof, whatever his role is

588
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: on this Oklahoma defense. They could not contain New Look

589
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: TCU six hundred and sixty eight yards fifty five points.

590
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: TCU averaged ten point two yards per play. Is that

591
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: bad ton of big plays for the horn Frogs. Sunny

592
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: Dyke's called out as much in his postgame comments. He said, look,

593
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: big plays are just going to be a part of

594
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: this offense. That's what we're trying to do. They did

595
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: it to great avail in this matchup. This was statistically speaking,

596
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: one of the most explosive offenses coming into this game.

597
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: My guess is when the ratings come out tomorrow, Tuesday,

598
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: whenever we see them, those ratings are only going to

599
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: improve because TCU looked damn freaking good in this game. Now,

600
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: it's hard to gauge how good TCU is or how

601
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: bad Oklahoma's defenses. All right, it's hard to kind of

602
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: balance those two equations.

603
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Why not both?

604
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: But why not both?

605
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Right?

606
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: Why not both? Why can't both things be true at

607
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: the same time? Yeah, what'd you think?

608
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 7: What?

609
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: There's the old announcer cliche that's a touchdown playing two

610
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: hand touch There were a few of those for TCU, like, oh,

611
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: they just didn't touch Max Duggan. They just didn't touch

612
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: him as he ran down the sideline for sixty seven

613
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: yards on that play. TCU is better quicker than I anticipated,

614
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: for sure, because we had this conversation about like, who

615
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: would you bet a thousand of your own dollars on

616
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: not making a Bowl from the Big twelve. Now, with

617
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Kansas's emergence in winning a bunch of games, and we

618
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: said TCU just because we hadn't seen them play anybody

619
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: to that point, and all due respect to SMU also

620
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: with the first year head coach, but it was you know,

621
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: Colorado and Tarleton State or whatever. So we're like, Okay,

622
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: maybe just because they haven't played anybody and it's a

623
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: first year coach, and because of their struggles on defense

624
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: against real teams last year, maybe it's TCU. I don't

625
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: think it's Max dugg and backup quarterback looked terrific and

626
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: Sunny Dykes has made a point of saying how proud

627
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: he is of the evolution of Max dug In and

628
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: the ability to fight after not being named the starter

629
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: when Chandler Morris was. By the way, Garret Riley, that's

630
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: the other talking point, right, the offensive coordinator for TCU,

631
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: younger brother of poetic nature to that man. And look,

632
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: the narrative was, Brent Vnables is going to get this

633
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma defense figured out, and he's going to recruit well,

634
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley recruited good defensive players. He's going to figure

635
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: it out. He's going to game plan better than Alex

636
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Grinch and Mike Stoops or whatever, he's going to be

637
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: a step up. But Brent Vnables has his hand in

638
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of different cookie jars within this Oklahoma program.

639
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: And that's not to say anything bad, but like, this

640
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: is not Brent Venables focusing all of his attention on

641
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma defense every second of the week and every

642
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: second of the game. It's head coach a little different.

643
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: So they go a long ways to go.

644
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: Tie hoof out of it. I'm telling you, get him

645
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: out of give him the big wheel from wake Oo

646
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: and polp. Get him out of there. Don't let him

647
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: anywhere near this thing.

648
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: There were I don't know it was drone shots or

649
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: blimp shots of what was going on with the Oklahoma defense.

650
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: Like Max Duggan was made to look like Joe Burrow, right,

651
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: Max Duggan against this Oklahoma defense where he's just like yep,

652
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: these receivers are all all American caliber and they're always

653
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: open and there's always grass to be had. Like it

654
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: honestly looked like a scout team defense that TCU was

655
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: playing against. I guess, god, oh, this is so bad.

656
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: But Oklahoma might put the ou in scout on the

657
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: scout team defense because that's what they put on the field.

658
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: And whether or not Nebraska inflated what this Oklahoma team is,

659
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: who's now on a losing streak within the Big twelve,

660
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we've got a ways to go

661
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: to say the least, they played honestly next week. They

662
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: played Texas next week, and look, we're not gonna talk

663
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: about the vaunted Texas defense because there is no such thing.

664
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: But if quinn Ewers comes back and shows half of

665
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: what he showed in Week two against Alabama, this could

666
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: be another like clearly red River shootout a lot of points,

667
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: but this could be another black eye for the Oklahoma defense.

668
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you need the highest end quarterback as

669
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Max stuck in Well maybe not, but certainly if quinn

670
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: Ewrs comes back, Yeah, but Hudson card.

671
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: Look really good.

672
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't take it, Quinn, you can do it

673
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: with the Hudson. That's all I'm saying.

674
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well TC is now five and oh

675
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: tc Ha's got a big matchup next week against undefeated Kansas.

676
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 3: Game Day is going to the game, which is freaking cool.

677
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: Congratulations to both these teams. Two really good stories here

678
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: so far through the early part of the twenty twenty

679
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: two college football season and Oklahoma I think left reeling

680
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: a little bit after this. I mean, gosh, this is,

681
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: I say, so not a good showing to give up

682
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: six hundred and sixty eight fricking yards. Yeah, what was

683
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: TCU doing on offense last year? What were they It's

684
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: a lot of the same guys. What were they doing.

685
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: Not being coached by Sonny Dykes, Gara Reiley? I guess yeah,

686
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: they were beat up. And look they have playmakers. They

687
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: had playmakers last year. They showed out like the Oklahoma game.

688
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: They it was at Quinn Johnstone Johnston who had some

689
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: big catches, like they had moments, they just weren't stringing

690
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: them together.

691
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So good man, tc You heard what

692
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: I said all the nice things about Texas Tech. Yeah,

693
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: trying to bring me back. In trying to bring me back.

694
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Big twelve, shall we? Let's talk

695
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: about that Texas Tech games. Talk about k State knocking

696
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: off Texas Tech thirty seven to twenty eight. Another monster

697
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: game for new look Adrian Martinez, who had a fifty

698
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: seven yard run and then an eighteen yard run for

699
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: a touchdown to start the game. So back to back

700
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: Adrian Martinez to get things rolling for the Wildcats. All told,

701
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: he had two hundred and eighty seven total yards and

702
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: four total touchdowns, three of which came.

703
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: On the ground.

704
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 3: Duce Vaughan also a really nice day on the ground.

705
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: This is a game that was tied at twenty after

706
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: three quarters before k State scored seventeen straight points in

707
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter to put this one out of reach.

708
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: I thought k State did a good job trying to

709
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: affect Donovan Smith, who was sacked six times. They definitely

710
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: did their part here to contain as much of the

711
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: Texas Tech attack as they could until this thing was

712
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: out of reach. So really nice win here for kase State.

713
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what we make a case State at

714
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: this point you were higher on them than I was

715
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: to start the season. I think it's been a bit

716
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: of a evolution here for sure over the last two weeks,

717
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 3: Beating Oklahoma, beating I think a pretty good Texas Tech team.

718
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: So KSE State kind of right back in this thing, Dan.

719
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. And I think it comes down

720
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: to in this specific case, and this is quarter to

721
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: quarter star power quarter to quarter. Like Adrian Martinez in

722
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: a third quarter and the first quarter or a second

723
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: whatever could look pretty disappointing, and then he can rip

724
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: off ridiculous plays. And there is something about the star

725
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: power of Adrian Martinez, drive to drive quarter to quarter,

726
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: whatever it comes and goes and do s fun. And

727
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: I don't love the offensive play calling all the time

728
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: for Kansas State, but a win is a win is

729
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: a win. And both of these teams in letdown spots.

730
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: Good for kse State for coming out, you know, after

731
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: beating Oklahoma and Texas Tech, after beating Texas in overtime

732
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: like they did, for coming out pretty strong and competitively.

733
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Neither team looked flat per se. No, but no, it

734
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: was ultimately that big. We talk about big plays and

735
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the explosive plays generating and stopping in Kansas State just

736
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: had that ability more often in big moments.

737
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Yesterday, Oklahoma State thirty six Baylor twenty five. Baylor got

738
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: a quick field goal to start this one out. Then

739
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: Oklahoma answered with a long touchdown drive. They never relinquished

740
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: the lead from that point forward. They led for the

741
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: final fifty minutes of this football game. This is another

742
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: one that I watched most of and I can tell

743
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: you the stats don't really tell the story. If you

744
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: didn't have a chance to watch it, like go back,

745
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: find it a bridge version somewhere on YouTube to get

746
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: the full context for what went on here. Baylor's offense

747
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: did not get going until late. I thought Oklahoma State

748
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: did a pretty good job and there were also a

749
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: bunch of situations where Baylor needed a big stop and

750
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: couldn't get off the field. And you know, the defense

751
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: had its back to the wall most of the game,

752
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: which is really a tough way to win against a

753
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: guy like Spencer Sanders, who you know, maybe I haven't

754
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: always been the most respectful towards, but he definitely gives

755
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: Mike Gundy a dynamic on that offense. That's hard a

756
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: game plan for.

757
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially going into the Baylor game after again,

758
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: the number was seven interceptions last year and those Baylor games, Yep,

759
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: that it was right to say, like, well, he shows

760
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: it a lot of the time, but in this specific

761
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: matchup there is baggage.

762
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: Now, total baggage, And I just thought on the whole

763
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: he did a pretty good job. Right again, not eye

764
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: popping numbers, but good enough to win. Yeah, Baylor was

765
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: the team that just had lapses. There were lapses on

766
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: special teams, notably the second half kick return, which went

767
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: ninety eight yards for a touchdown.

768
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: Drops yeah, draw Yeah.

769
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: Like the fact that Baylor kept it close for a

770
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: while I thought was admirable enough. They're just not a

771
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: finished product. And that's kind of what I think I've

772
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: been dancing around here for the first couple weeks of

773
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: the season, the feeling that they're getting better but still

774
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent of the way there. I think

775
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: that's kind of my line on Baylor Oklahoma State is

776
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State is maybe not a top five caliber team,

777
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: but Oklahoma State is much more of a finished product.

778
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: They played much more of a physical brand of football

779
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: in this one, and you know, really nice Roade victory

780
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: for them getting some revenge over Baylor.

781
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not a lot of star power, I would say,

782
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: I like ron Im Pressley, but not a lot of

783
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: star power surroundings Spencer Sanders. There is no Junkyard Jim Washington, right,

784
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: there is no Kendall Hunter or whoever that There's not

785
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: a lot of dependable explosion around Spencer Sanders. And he's

786
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: the dependability of this offense, both on the ground and

787
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: with his arm. He was able to make plays at

788
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: the fumble recovery. I just I came away impressed with

789
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Baylor's ability to come into the second half. They were

790
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: down like twenty three to three, I want to say,

791
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: at a certain point, and they came out and were

792
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: able to generate those bigger plays. And you know, we

793
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: had the pickleball accusations earlier with the YU matchup pickleball accusations.

794
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: But Blake Shapen made plays, Gavin Holmes made plays. It

795
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: was Monorrey Monorreight, Monoray, that's my Monorail Simpsons, Monterey Baldwin

796
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: with the deep catch that was impressive. So Baylor did

797
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: fight back admirably. I think they were down what one

798
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: scores like thirty three to twenty five, relatively late, but

799
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: no Oklahoma State doing their thing against Baylor, wearing maybe

800
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: the ugliest uniforms of the day.

801
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: I don't hate it, as I got mustard color and

802
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: I don't see color that well.

803
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't hate all yellow. I root for a team

804
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: that has worn all yellow. It's the specific like Golden's brown,

805
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: deeply seated mustard yellow that I'm not into as much.

806
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 3: By the way, I love Richard Reese, Oh he's really fun.

807
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: He's a downhill runner, he's got a little bit of wiggle.

808
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: He's really good. If they can continue feeding him the ball,

809
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: he's going to turn into a hell of a running back.

810
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, really good. All right, and two final games

811
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: try to close out the Big twelve. Let's talk about

812
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: the Kansas Jayhawks Dan or as we've come to know

813
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 3: and love them here on the show America's Team five

814
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: and Oh Kansas Dan getting game day next week. Let

815
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: me cut the music for a second. I always say

816
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: could have won this game.

817
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say could have won this game.

818
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: They missed three field goals, including one that would have

819
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: tied it at the very end. Hunter Deckers was fine,

820
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 3: but threw a pick in the second quarter that Kansas

821
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: ended up cashing in for a touchdown.

822
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: And this has kind of been the.

823
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: Story for Iowa State this year, right, Like the talents there,

824
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: I know you're not crazy about the offense. I'm probably

825
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: more pro Iowa State offense than you. We would definitely

826
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: both agree that they shoot themselves in the foot too much,

827
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: and certainly in this game it came back to bite them,

828
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: especially in a game like this where they couldn't run

829
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: Worth a lick and all of the pressure. Everything that

830
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: the offense tried to do had to be hunter deckers

831
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: or buzzed. And Kansas, just Kansas was good enough here.

832
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: Kansas was good enough to get the dumb not a

833
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: great game for Jalen Daniels. Didn't have to be right,

834
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: just did what they had to do, did not shoot

835
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: themselves in the foot, took advantage of Iowa State wherever

836
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 3: they could, and emerged five to zero, which is honestly

837
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: the best story in college football in quite some time.

838
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: So good for Lance Liepold, Good for Kansas. I will

839
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: be rooting for them next week. I want to see

840
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: this continue. I am nothing if not a romantic here

841
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: on the college football stage.

842
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: So, I mean Kansas won a clunker. When was the

843
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: last time Kansas won a clunker?

844
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 6: Right?

845
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kansas's clunkers usually end with a fifty nine to

846
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: three final score. And they win this game. They need

847
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: the missed field goals, that's okay. Yeah, you get what

848
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: you can to get a win, especially if you're Kansas

849
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: and five and zero seems like a foreign combination of

850
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: numbers in that order. But Iowa State's offense, yeah, what

851
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: was it thirty one carries if you include sacks with

852
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: thirty one carries just looking at the box score for

853
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: sixteen yards, that's many carries for not having success. And

854
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: this is Kansas. Now, I might be disrespecting Kansas's defense,

855
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: which may be much improved. It certainly seems that way.

856
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: West Virginia put forty plus on them, right the dude

857
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: put twenty seven twenty eight points on them. So if

858
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Iowa State is unable to generate big plays and they're

859
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: unable to get creative and evolve and adjust over the

860
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: course of a season, and I know their offense is

861
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: specifically built around that sort of dink and dunk another

862
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: pickleball team. Yeah, I don't know if people are confused

863
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: by the pickleball reference, but there's like a dink zone

864
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: when you like, pickleball is a mini tennis game, and

865
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: so they are playing mini football and it can work,

866
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: and it has worked. But now Iowa State is like

867
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: more of the hunted, no pun intended with hunter deckers.

868
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: They're more of the hunted, and they don't evolve, they

869
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: don't change, and they're going to lose games this light

870
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: this way. It's just if you have to make field

871
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: goals plural. To win games against Kansas, you are not

872
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: advancing as a program. Sorry.

873
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Iowa State's got k State next week, They've got

874
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: a road game against Texas. They still got to play Oklahoma,

875
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and TCU. Yeah, got to get

876
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 3: that offense together because those are teams that can score.

877
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's not slander, by the way, not slander

878
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: against Duke or West Virginia when I say those things.

879
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: What was the score last year? Iowa State Kansas? They're

880
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: that much worse in your words. I think they're up

881
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: thirty eight nothing at halftime last year. Okay, this is

882
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: the direction.

883
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: All right, closing it out in the Big twelve. We

884
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: won't spend too much time on Texas thirty eight West

885
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: Virginia twenty. This is a game that was never closed.

886
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: Texas was up twenty eight to nil in the second

887
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: quarter before JT. Daniels finally threw a touchdown pass for

888
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: West Virginia. So Texas now headed into this game against

889
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: Oklahoma next week, the big rivalry matchup. There is some

890
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: talk that quinn Ewers might be back for that game.

891
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: We will obviously cover it more as the week progresses,

892
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: so stay tuned here to the solid.

893
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: Verbal for by the way, sending very strong positive thoughts

894
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: to C. J. Donaldson. Right, he was parted off in

895
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: this one for West Virginia, So hopefully he is all

896
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: right and everything is okay with him physically, emotionally, mentally,

897
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: whatever moving forward. But yeah, tough, tough to see.

898
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: All right over in the SEC A few results here

899
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: that I will all through. Obama forty nine, Arkansas twenty six,

900
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: Mississippi State forty two, Texas A and M twenty four.

901
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: God yeah.

902
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: In LSU twenty one, Auburn seventeen. South Carolina also won

903
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: by forty I believe on Thursday night, a game that

904
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: was moved up due to Hurricane Ian. Let's start with

905
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: the Bama story. The Bama story was not so much

906
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: that they won. It was that Bryce Young left in

907
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 3: the second quarter with the sprain shoulder. He gave way

908
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: to Jalen Milroe, who was a four star red shirt freshman.

909
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: He was not great through the air, but had a

910
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: huge seventy seven yard run and speaking of loads, when

911
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: they run, he's a big dude. Yeah, absolutely, he's a

912
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: big dude. He had the long run which set up

913
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: a touchdown in the fourth quarter. A monster game, sort

914
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: of as predicted by Jamir Gibbs. But I do give

915
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: credit to Arkansas because there was a moment in this

916
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: game where it could have gotten out of hand and

917
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: Arkansas fought back. Arkansas brought this one to within one

918
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: score before Alabama zoomed out to a lead late and

919
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: ended up winning this one comfortably, going away with the cover.

920
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: But the Bryce Young storyline is something that we're going

921
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: to have to watch now moving forward. It did not

922
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: appear as if it was all that serious, but clearly

923
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: when you've got any kind of shoulder spring and a

924
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: quarterback the likes of Bryce Young, who won the Heisman,

925
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: who has proven to be very effective at going down field, yep,

926
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: it's something that we need to watch. It is clearly

927
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: them on to watch. Yeah.

928
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arkansas gets the tiny fields touchdown, right, They have

929
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: the fumble recovery I think it was three yards out

930
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: or something like that to pull it to twenty eight

931
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: twenty three. They Raheem Sanders ran really well. It just

932
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: seemed at a certain point Bryce Young is out. Jamior Gibbs,

933
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: go win us this game comfortably, and he said, okay, okay,

934
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: I can do that. Yeah, he was ridiculous, just ripping

935
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: off the huge runs and living up to the expectations

936
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: that he was rightfully saddled with as he made his

937
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: way from Georgia Tech to Alabama. And yeah, an impressive

938
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: when when it did get close and Alabama was quite

939
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: literally able to run away with it.

940
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: The Mississippi State A and M game wasn't even close.

941
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: And I saw this score and audibly gasped. Kate thought

942
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: something was wrong. He's like, are you okay? A and

943
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: M had four turnovers, three in the red zone. The

944
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: offense wasn't great. Tell me if you've heard this before.

945
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: Mississippi State also blocked a field goal attempt and ran

946
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: it back fifty yards for a touchdown. Yeah, here's what

947
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: I love about this. When they asked Jimbo Fisher after

948
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: the game about his offensive system, quote, the players are

949
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: there and were there when they asked him, why is

950
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: it not working? He says, we're not executing. It may

951
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: be more than not executing. Jimbo just the thought, Yeah,

952
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: just the thought. It may not all be player based here.

953
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: I think that might be a way to look at this. Yes,

954
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: Max Johnson struggled. It's hurt Haines King comes in and

955
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: struggles even more. It's it's feeling bad for Devin h

956
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: Chain and Evan Stewart and mus Muhammad made plays. He

957
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: was really good. They have guys. I don't know that

958
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: they have coaches. I don't know if they have coaches

959
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: who can teach these plays to these players and how

960
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: to string them together. Because I'm positive if we freaky

961
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: Friday things with Mike Leech taking over the Texas A

962
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: and M roster, they'd probably score a little bit more.

963
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: Right, I was gonna say, can Jimbo get in on

964
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: that meeting with Kirk Farrence and Paul Christ.

965
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely he can. Yeah he's in like a roped

966
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: off VIP section of the diner, but it's the same diner.

967
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

968
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, for their part, defensively made plays, absolutely made plays.

969
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: They were able to. This is not a team, This

970
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: is another like quietly pick a ball team. But you

971
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: saw the big play later on in the game that

972
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: opened things up from Mississippi State. I think it was

973
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: a seventy five yard like over the top catch. I

974
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: think they're a good team. You know, I'm seduced by

975
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: them every year And for your to give you credit,

976
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: you have not said you're all in on TCU or

977
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: all Miss. I mean you kind of did with Ole Miss.

978
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm kind of on old Miss.

979
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: You already. You brought Taylor Swift into the mix with

980
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: ole Miss, but you didn't get too hot and bothered

981
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: over TCU's surge against against Oklahoma, which is to your credit.

982
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: I am always going to be in on Mississippi State

983
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: as just like a an SEC danger. I just love

984
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: the idea of the Bells and Starkville and just things

985
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: getting weird with State.

986
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 3: So well, that's and you know what, that's fine because

987
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: they look pretty good and despite the fact that A

988
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: and M has their own struggles on offense, is still

989
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: good Mississippi State team, you know, for them to execute

990
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: the way that they did, yeah, and win going away.

991
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: This was not a close game. I thought that was

992
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: impressive because it's really easy to play down the SEC.

993
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Talk to Georgia, yeah, I saw. I think it was

994
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: Billy Lucci obviously, who runs Techsaggs said something like Texas

995
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: A and M had four trips inside the ten and

996
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: somehow got outscored seven to three by Mississippi State because

997
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: of the block field goal returns like I've never seen

998
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: that before. I'm not even angry, it's just crazy. I'm

999
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: just impressed. Mississippi State. There it is, that's all.

1000
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 3: I'm very curious to see how this narrative about Jimbo

1001
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: evolves because you have to imagine, after all the positive

1002
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: scheme on A and M this offseason with the recruiting,

1003
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: these results are not good, right, These results are aren't good.

1004
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: I mean there are losses now on the schedule in

1005
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: front of them. There are games that I think at

1006
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: the start of the year we counted as wins that

1007
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 3: we certainly cannot at this juncture. And the fact that

1008
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: they have looked so amnemic on offense given all this talent. Yeah,

1009
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be weird, and it's going

1010
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: to continue to be weird, and there are going to

1011
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: be more weird Jimbo prescers to follow here, So we

1012
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 3: have that to look forward to. Speaking of tension.

1013
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: By the way, coming into the game, the ninety ninth

1014
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: most efficient offense not coming into the game.

1015
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: Not good now, LSU twenty one, Auburn seventeen. If you

1016
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 3: look at this box score, you might say to yourself self,

1017
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: how did LS you win this? Game. They were down

1018
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: seventeen zip at one point in the second quarter. The

1019
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: answer is four turnovers and an offense that has scored

1020
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: just six second half points in the last three games.

1021
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 3: Your Auburn Tigers stand.

1022
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1023
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 3: I will put aside for a moment the sheer comedy

1024
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: of you having to get your face painted as a

1025
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: Tiger can do it on camera. I am very excited

1026
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: for it. I finally feel like I got you on

1027
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: something great. Okay, and take that. We're going to move

1028
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 3: that to the side.

1029
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: Okay, is it.

1030
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: Time here now to record the post mortem for Brian Harson?

1031
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: Because you know as well as I we do these

1032
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: shows on a Sunday and then we hope, we hope

1033
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: we watch. We're almost afraid to refresh our browsers for

1034
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: fear of what might happen next. In this climate where

1035
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: coaches are very quick to go and we're not rooting

1036
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: for that. It feels like the writing's on the wall here.

1037
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: It feels like whatever the answers are on the Auburn

1038
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: side Brian Harson, he ain't having him and this is

1039
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: going to break before long. So shall we just preface

1040
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: all of our coverage on this game around the fact

1041
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: that we believe Brian Harson maybe the next man out.

1042
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I think it's not an unreasonable take. I also want

1043
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: to give a little bit of credit to Gus Malsan

1044
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: for his ability to navigate this world for as long

1045
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: as he did, and to succeed and to recruit and

1046
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: to win like he was able to do and beat

1047
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Alabama in ways that people were not able to do.

1048
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Are not able to do all that often, if ever, so, Yeah,

1049
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: there's almost like an element of you don't want to

1050
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: be the guy after the guy, and not that Gus

1051
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: Malson was infallible and perfect and didn't deserve to be

1052
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: let go and have him move on the way in

1053
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: the manner he did. But I think it's the writing

1054
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: sort of on the wall with Brian Harson. And that's

1055
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: not a controversial take. It's just it's a tough place.

1056
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: It's a tough place when you're surrounded when your rivals

1057
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: plural are Georgia and Alabama. Yeah, there's just going to

1058
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: be expectations to compete with your rivals. That it's I mean,

1059
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: it's Auburn, it's a national championship. They've been to two

1060
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: national championships in the last dozen years or something like that.

1061
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: One one of them. So the expectations are fine, but

1062
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: also it's a tough place. It is just a tough place,

1063
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: and with the quarterback room as thin as it has become,

1064
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: with the defense not having the talents anywhere that they've

1065
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: had these past few years, it seems, with the changes

1066
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff, hiring an offensive coordinator, he resigns,

1067
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Derek Mason takes a pay cut to go to Oklahoma State,

1068
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Like all of these things add up to it's only

1069
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: going to be for so long. It's only going to

1070
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: be for so long. So the post mortem is probably

1071
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: due in coming.

1072
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: So if you are listening to this either early via

1073
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 3: or early the access for for Ballers at for ballers

1074
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: dot com, or if you're listening to this at some

1075
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Speaker 3: point in a Monday, if the news comes down about

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Speaker 3: Brian Harst, who we're not doing an emergency pod, you've

1077
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: been warned.

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00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: You've been warned, you've been warned. This game, specifically, Auburn

1079
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: looked really good right away. They did.

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00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: Robbie ash bawled out.

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00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, LSU gets one of their touchdowns on a long

1082
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: fumble return. Is that correct?

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00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 7: So not?

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00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: I just it was Karen us Meyer's not the guy.

1085
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't think doesn't look like it right now. He

1086
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: just looked kind of nervous and was throwing it all

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00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: over the place when he came in with Jaydeen Daniels

1088
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: beat up Jane Daniels like is occasionally the guy, but

1089
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: looks lost sometimes and is unable to make plays at times.

1090
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: And watching this game, I couldn't help, but wonder, is

1091
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: that like a sex in the city a voiceover? I

1092
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: couldn't help, but wonder what's Miles Brennan up to? Is

1093
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: he staying in shape? Is he willing to reconsider? Yeah?

1094
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: But when your clunkers twenty one seventeen, I really thought

1095
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: LC when they got the ball back before their own fumble,

1096
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: which is offensive ineptitude, I thought, I was like, all right,

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: we're going to cruise to twenty eight seventeen and won't

1098
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: be pretty, but Ta is gonna have to paint his

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00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: face like a tiger. And they just choked it away.

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00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 3: I was sweating chold down the stretch because they could

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00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: have covered here too. Yep, they could have covered totally

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00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: twenty one seventeen. LUs who gets it, by the way,

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: Hope seven Banks is okay. He had a scary mock

1104
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: injury on the opening kickoff. Yeah, had to be stretchered off,

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: So we hope he's okay. Florida and Eastern Washington are

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00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: playing at some point today Sunday. As we record this,

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00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: Florida favored by thirty one and a half points, so

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00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: we'll report back on that game and we put out

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00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: the Wednesday podcast. We do have a couple other conferences

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: that we need to zoom through here. Let's and provide

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00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: the necessary context. Let's go on over to the ACC

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00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: A couple results to report. Georgia Tech TWI Pit twenty one.

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00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: We had wake Forest thirty one to twenty one over

1114
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: Florida State, good game, North Carolina forty one to ten,

1115
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: excuse me over Virginia Tech. Boston College winning on a

1116
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: late field goal over Louisville thirty four to thirty three.

1117
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: Duke runs for nearly two hundred and fifty yards and

1118
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: knocks off Virginia by twenty one points thirty eight to seventeen,

1119
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: and Syracuse won fifty nine zip over Wagner. The stats

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Speaker 3: in this game were eye popping. Most eye popping, of course,

1121
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: is when they agree to play ten minute quarters in

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00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: the second half. That's how you know it's a game

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Speaker 3: that's out of him. Syracuse led forty nine nothing at halftime.

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Speaker 3: So of those games, Dan, give me a couple reactions.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina played defense thanks to Virginia Tech on the

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00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: other side of the field playing offense attempting to play offense.

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00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: So a nice win for North Carolina. I'm still not

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00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: high on the Heels at all long term under Mac Brown.

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00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: Good to see Duke by the way, almost assuredly going

1130
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: to a bowl and one of the Mike Elko era

1131
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, especially on offense, they do a really,

1132
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: really impressive job considering the depths to which this offense

1133
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: fell these past couple of years. So Man Robert and

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00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: I must have been awesome for Virginia because of what

1135
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: he's doing at Syracuse some of the time a lot

1136
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: of the time, and what Virginia isn't doing on offense

1137
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: without him and with Brendan Armstrong, with Keithon Thompson, with

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00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: a lot of d'antavian wicks. A lot of these guys

1139
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of success last year. Louisville and Scott Sadderfield.

1140
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how long this is going to be

1141
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: because Boston College is not especially good. But with Louisville's

1142
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: defense on the other side of the fields, suddenly they

1143
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: could run the ball, they could throw the ball down field. Now,

1144
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is one of the best six eight whatever receiver,

1145
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: not one of the best. Touchdown catch double coverage meant

1146
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: nothing on that catch. It was a suggestion from two

1147
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: dbs that maybe you don't catch the ball, but Zay

1148
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: Flower said, I think I'm going to. I just think

1149
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna catch this ridiculous this catch. Okay.

1150
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: So that that stood out to me that Louisville is

1151
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: just not going to be a thing under Scott's saderfield.

1152
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: It seems they've started out their acc schedule. Oh and three,

1153
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: if you were going to build, if you were if

1154
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: you were on a recipe site for how to beat

1155
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: Pitt without showing anything through the air, like if you

1156
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: were to go to Smitten Kitchen, or if you were

1157
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: to watch a Nigella losson video about the ingredients necessary

1158
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: to build this wonderful windsu fla against Pitt, fumbles out

1159
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: of nowhere, long runs, turnovers upon turnovers, mistakes. It was

1160
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: like totally completely I only watch little bit of this game.

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01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: They were really bad on third down? Were they not

1162
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: very bad? Yeah? Pitt two of twelve on third down?

1163
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: Or oh the penalties, twelve penalties for seventy five yards.

1164
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: I thought Pitt was basically going to throw out a

1165
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: bad half and get their act together and just go

1166
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: straight at Georgia Tech, because that's kind of all you

1167
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Speaker 1: need to do. And yet Ramblin.

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Speaker 3: Rec Jeff Simms threw for one hundred and eight yards

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Speaker 3: in this game. And honestly it was the Tech defense

1170
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: played pretty well, you know, I mean it could. There

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: was definitely some some bit that you have to attribute

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Speaker 3: to bad weather, right, But that wasn't the reason that

1173
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Speaker 3: Pitt loss this game. Pitt lost this game.

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01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Whether it was the same for both teams.

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether it was same for both teams, Pitt lost

1176
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: this game because they just could not get their act

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Speaker 3: together at all until like the last two drives of

1178
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: the game. Honestly, on offense, the Tech defense played pretty well.

1179
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: They forced a couple turnovers, like for a team that

1180
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: lost Jeff Collins a week ago, to get their act

1181
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Speaker 3: together in the manner that they did. Shout out Brent Key,

1182
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: the ingram coach who was promoted, I think from wine

1183
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: coach who apparently didn't know what to do after the game,

1184
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: like if he's supposed to do a press conference or what.

1185
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: He was new to this thing too. For them to

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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 3: pull their act together the way they did to knock

1187
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Speaker 3: off Pitt Well really impressive. And kudos to Georgia Tech

1188
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: because it's already been a really tough season for him.

1189
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: But there's a nice win and knock off a ranked

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: pit team.

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: How many punts into this game? If you're in the stadium,

1192
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: are you just starting to answer work emails? How like? Here,

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01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: I can do it, ty, I can. I'm ready to

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: if you'd like me to.

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01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 8: Field goal, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt downs,

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 8: field goal, touchdown, punt, end of half, fumble, field goal, punt, punt, interception,

1197
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 8: field goal, fumble, touchdown, punt downs, and here it is touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

1198
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Speaker 1: But also, and of go.

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Speaker 3: Brutal, just brutal, brutal. I thought you were going to say,

1200
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: how many punts into the game before you leave? In

1201
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: a rainy night, a cold night. It was brutal up here.

1202
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: It was not nice.

1203
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: It was a Rodrigo game.

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Speaker 3: You're right all right, Wake Forest thirty one, Florida State

1205
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: twenty one. Real quick on this one. Florida State had

1206
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 3: a really nice eighty three yard touchdown drive to open

1207
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: the game, Yeah, and then had trouble getting it together

1208
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: until later in the game. Wake was up twenty one

1209
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: to seven at half. Florida State, of course, was without

1210
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: some guys along both lines, and it definitely had an impact.

1211
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: I mean they had trouble stopping, they had trouble creating pressure,

1212
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: and Wake really took advantage of that advantage on the

1213
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: ground and they were able to run the ball effectively.

1214
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: It was Florida State's first loss of the season, and

1215
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: it'll be sh I think interesting to me now see

1216
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: where they go next because they've got NC State next week.

1217
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 3: Both teams maybe licking their wounds a little bit as

1218
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: a result of Week five, so we'll see what the

1219
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: Knowles can do on the road. That'll be another tough

1220
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: match for them where.

1221
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna play your Taylor Swift ten and two songs.

1222
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: No no no, no, no, no, no no oh.

1223
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Not You're done now you know what it it? I

1224
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: don't know where the button went.

1225
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: That's a tough, beat it disappeared.

1226
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we also say that wake Forest is full

1227
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: on good wake Forest. The story doesn't have to only

1228
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: be Florida State was beat up. Florida State allowed way

1229
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: too much. Wake Forest was able to get after Jordan

1230
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: Travis a little bit too much. Like and Jordan Travis

1231
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: was fine in this game. He spread the ball out

1232
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: like they ran the ball not all that well. But

1233
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis just there was There's a lot of like,

1234
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: can this guy win it all by himself? To what

1235
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis seems to be expected. It seems to be

1236
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: expected of him a little bit too much. Perhaps, Oh yeah, yes,

1237
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: you're right beat up, but also once again, wake Forest

1238
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: full on good, full on. It's a full on good

1239
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: team in a letdown spot after the Clemson game, for sure,

1240
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: full on good team. I am jealous of Sam Hartman's beard.

1241
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: It's a good one.

1242
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 3: If I grew a beard, I would want it to

1243
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: look like Sam Hartman's. He's got like the deep jet

1244
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: black almost al Borland yeah level beard going on, which yeah,

1245
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: I think is aggressive as a college kid. Yeah, I

1246
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: can't imagine having that kind of beard in college. But

1247
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: the discipline it takes to keep that thing looking as

1248
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: groomed as it does. That's a guy attention to detail.

1249
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm seeing your five o'clock shadow. I think you could

1250
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: go grow a robust mustache. I could grow Yeah, I

1251
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: could so. I mean that's that's in the direction.

1252
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 3: I just to have that sickuitiveness as a college kid

1253
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: and the discipline to grow that thing out to look

1254
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: as healthy as it does. Yeah.

1255
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of which, I could watch that

1256
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: State Farm commercial where the guy deeply smells his own beard.

1257
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: I could watch that less. Yeah, I could watch that

1258
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: fewer times over the course it was Saturday, that's all.

1259
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are a Geico show, after all. That's true,

1260
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: all right, Big ten Perdue twenty, Misnisoda ten.

1261
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1262
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: We had Illinois thirty four, Wisconsin tin okay, yeah, Maryland

1263
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: twenty seven, Michigan state thirteen, Penn State seventeen, Northwestern seven,

1264
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: Nebraska thirty five, Indiana twenty one, and Ohio state forty

1265
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 3: nine to ten. I believe Ohio state fake to punt

1266
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 3: up thirty nine something of that ilk interesting move. Okay,

1267
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: A lot to unpack actually, Okay, on the Big ten

1268
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: side of things here, the Perdue one for me was

1269
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 3: a big surprise. I know it was for you as well.

1270
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: You locked up Minnesota in this one. Mo Ibrahem did

1271
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: not play. Looked like he did something to his ankle

1272
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: last week against miss Michigan State excuse me, almost Mississippi State.

1273
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 3: But he did practice this week. He dressed for the game,

1274
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: so I don't know something happened to warm ups or what.

1275
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 3: But Minnesota really struggled without him. Just forty seven rushing

1276
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: yards and twenty seven carries. Tanner Morgan, who is otherwise,

1277
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: as we've alluded on this show many times over, pretty

1278
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: solid through three picks in this game, Minnesota could not

1279
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: get its offense together. This was a weird defensive matchup.

1280
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell was back also through two picks on the

1281
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: Purdue side, so not really a great game to watch.

1282
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: But in the end, Perdue gets the dub by ten

1283
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: over Minnesota. I do think the bigger story on the

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Speaker 3: Big ten side is what happened to Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to undermine Perdue beating a ranked team. Yeah, okay,

1287
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: nice win for Purdue, but Brett Bilma going back to

1288
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: Madison winning by twenty four, a game in which Wisconsin

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: I believe finished with two total rushing yards. Yeah, this

1290
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: is a problem, right, Like, this is a really big problem.

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Speaker 3: We are now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the breaking news is we recorded the show that

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01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: you started listening to a long time ago. My voice

1294
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: is not as great, but it's at least a little

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01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: bit better than Paul Christ's current employment status. Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely wild? Paul Christ the latest victim of this incredible

1297
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: college football coaching carousel. Paul Chris officially out at time

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01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 3: of recording. We recorded our podcast earlier. We're cutting this

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Speaker 3: in a little bit after the fact. Paul Christ out

1300
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: at Wisconsin. He's been there since twenty fifteen, his record

1301
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 3: sixty seven and twenty six. Over All, this, of course,

1302
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 3: is just wild. Paul Christ is sort of viewed as

1303
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 3: a Wisconsin lifer. He's been there for a good long time.

1304
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 3: He was part of that Brett Bielmah regime that was

1305
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 3: very successful at Wisconsin before things went a much different

1306
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 3: direction in Madison. But now this is just the latest

1307
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: name on top of what is growing to be a

1308
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 3: trend for better or worse in college football, where after

1309
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 3: each and every week we talk about who did well

1310
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: who didn't do well. Obviously, Wisconsin lost in rather embarrassing

1311
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: fashion to Illinois thirty four to ten, a loss at

1312
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: home two rushing yards, which is very uncharacteristic for a

1313
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 3: Wisconsin Badgers' football team. And the news broke just a

1314
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: short while ago. So the interim is Jim Leonard. Many

1315
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 3: folks online saying Jim Leonard's probably going to be potentially

1316
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Speaker 3: the next coach at Wisconsin. He might get this gig

1317
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 3: on more of a permanent basis. I've seen a lot

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: of the other names that you might expect given where

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: we're at in college football, right the Lance Leipold's, the

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: Matt Campbell's, I've seen the Bill O'Brien's, like all the

1321
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: usuals right that I think we're used to hearing at

1322
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 3: this point in time with all the coaching vacant sees.

1323
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 3: But man, what a what a shock here on a

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Speaker 3: Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul Christ had a ton of success in Madison,

1326
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: And you're right about the lifer thing from Wisconsin was

1327
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: a Wisconsin quarterback, like the son of a college football coach.

1328
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: I believe in Wisconsin that it's for certain the Badger

1329
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: DNA is strong within Paul Christ. And you know, you

1330
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: go back to his time replacing Brett Bulama. Of course,

1331
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: he was at Pitt very briefly if you remember, and

1332
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: takes the job when Brett Bielima leaves and did a

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01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: fantastic has led Wisconsin to a number of huge bowl games.

1334
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: You know, has won the West, has won the conference.

1335
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,879
Speaker 1: If you remember the Big Ten championship game against Nebraska

1336
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: in which they rushed for forty eight thousand yards in

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: a single game. The highs of the Paul Christ era

1338
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: were extraordinarily high. Just the running backs produced, the defenses produced,

1339
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: the upsets that Wisconsin was involved in with.

1340
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Speaker 3: You know what we perceive to be bigger teams, bigger.

1341
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: Programs, and it's just these past I mean, you say

1342
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: past couple of years, and it's not. They want a

1343
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: bunch of games. Last after they started slowly in September,

1344
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: they won ten games, I believe in twenty nineteen if

1345
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: you remember, they just absolutely shelled. If I'm getting my

1346
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: years mixed up, I apologize, but they did shell Miami,

1347
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: and I believe the Orange Bowl correct where he was

1348
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: seen malving turnover chain my f and as right, he

1349
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: was like the platonic ideal when things were working, even

1350
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,440
Speaker 1: with so so quarterbacks. When it's Jack Cone, when it's Joelstave,

1351
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: when it's Alex Hornybrook, guys that you know, weren't really

1352
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: developed into upper eschelon guys, but were efficient. And that

1353
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: type of thing can work if the offensive line is there,

1354
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: if the running backs are there, if the tight ends

1355
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: are there, and everything coalesces and comes together successfully. As

1356
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: long as that's happening, you're winning nine and a half

1357
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: to ten and a half games a season. And I

1358
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: think it's gravy that Wisconsin has this brand of big,

1359
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: bruising football that wins you a ton of games, that

1360
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: makes them a pain and the flip and ass to

1361
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: play against. And that was the absolute height. You know,

1362
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: look at the look at those running backs, Monty Ball

1363
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: and Melvin Gordon and Jonathan Taylor. These guys are all

1364
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: everything for a reason. They were put in a position

1365
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: to win. They develop their NFL caliber backs. But it's

1366
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: gone pretty ugly offensively, specifically, it's pretty gotten, pretty stale.

1367
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: You mix that with the number of dollars that the

1368
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: Big ten currently and will continue to make from television money,

1369
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: and I never think that it's always about wins and losses.

1370
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: It's the probably the biggest thing in a situation like this,

1371
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: but you know, behind the scenes, there's always going to

1372
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: be personality conflict, even with wins, even with losses, whatever.

1373
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: And it's just wild that. I mean, he hasn't been

1374
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: there forever ever, but just in this era of college football,

1375
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: he is like an elder statesman with Wisconsin. Yeah.

1376
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just indicative of where we're at

1377
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 3: in college football. And we talked about it a nauseum

1378
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: on the podcast. Right, in this new era of college

1379
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: football where money is more overtly taking front seat in

1380
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: the way things go, it just dials up the pressure

1381
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: on coaches, and I think it may provide more of

1382
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: an impetus for these programs to make a move sooner

1383
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: than they might expect. To also throw their hat in

1384
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: the ring for whatever prime coaches might be out there. Right,

1385
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: David Randa is another name that I would expect we'll

1386
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: hear with regard to Wisconsin. Right, you don't want to

1387
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 3: be the last one on the bus here with a

1388
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: coaching vacancy. You want to make sure that you've given

1389
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: yourself a lot of time. If it's something you know

1390
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: you're going to do, give yourself ample opportunity to go

1391
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: out and pursue some of these better candidates that that

1392
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: might be willing to listen to your offer. I don't know,

1393
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: it's it's just wild that they would make this move

1394
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: on a Sunday night, after week five, as we start

1395
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: the month of October moving away from Paul Christ. So

1396
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: we'll see which direction this head's dan. Obviously very early

1397
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 3: on in the game here, I'm sure this will be

1398
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: one of the prem jobs that will discuss over and

1399
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: over throughout the course of the college football season. Now,

1400
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 3: but Paul Chris officially out at Wisconsin.

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01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and it's it's smart if internally they had

1402
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: already started having a conversation about Jim Leonard. It's smart

1403
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: if they're saying to themselves things have grown stale, We've

1404
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: reached an impasse. Paul Christ has largely done an excellent

1405
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: job for us and taken this program to a really

1406
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: good place by and large. But we all sort of feel,

1407
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: and I'm sort of inhabiting the heads of the brain

1408
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: trust that is Wisconsin football, we all sort of feel

1409
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: like we have that next guy, and look, I root

1410
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: for a team where this sort of happened, but without

1411
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: maybe Chip Kelly was the offensive coordinator in two thousand

1412
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: and seven, two thousand and eight, when Oregon was in

1413
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: a great place and he was a hotshot in a

1414
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: way that I don't think Jim Leonard quite is at

1415
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: the moment. But if Wisconsin people feel like Leonard is,

1416
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: like this is clearly the guy, like he was an

1417
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: All American for us. He's done a fantas job as

1418
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. You know, he's come up through the ranks,

1419
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: we know he wants to be here, and he is

1420
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: himself a Wisconsin guy, then it actually does make sense

1421
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: to give him a chance to sort of see how

1422
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: the chair fits and feels. That makes sense if this

1423
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: is that sort of trial balloon, or if it's a

1424
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: trial balloon to say it's time to start looking around

1425
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: and go outside of the capitol, w Wisconsin capital g

1426
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: guy right that the jobs that have opened up already

1427
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: have opened because these schools want to head start. Whether

1428
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: it's Arizona State, whether it's Georgia, Tack, Nebraska, whatever, that

1429
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: everybody wants to start doing due diligence. Everybody wants to

1430
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: start putting out feelers in Wisconsin's no different that if

1431
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: they're positive they were going to make this move in

1432
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: December no matter what, especially, you know, embarrassing yourself at

1433
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: home in that way, Like Illinois an up and coming program,

1434
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: but with the Brett Bilhama thing, I think Wisconsin's a

1435
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: very good job. It's a very very good job that

1436
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: has very specific uphill challenges, namely Penn State, Michigan and

1437
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State that those schools are always going to be

1438
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: ahead in terms of national brand, and Wisconsin's in this

1439
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: great place of being that local brand that attracts Wisconsin kids,

1440
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: that attracts kids in the Midwest that are you know,

1441
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: want to develop as offensive linemen, want to play like

1442
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: a bruising style, want to develop into really good linebackers

1443
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: or edge rushers, whatever. But it's more challenging because they're

1444
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: not going to string together top ten, top twelve, top

1445
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: twenty classes most of the time, and so it's going

1446
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: to take some bit of modernization just in terms of

1447
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, they hit the portal hard. They did a

1448
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: number of things to try and modernize. They tried to

1449
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: hire a new offensive coordinator. I mean they did, but

1450
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: it just felt like they were trying to do all

1451
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: these new fangled things with the same guy who wanted

1452
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: to do things the same old way, and so there

1453
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: was that weird mix of trying to modernize with a

1454
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: more stubborn background, and so the change needed to happen.

1455
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 3: The proof is in the pudding, frankly, and you hate

1456
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: to see it for Paul christ who by all accounts

1457
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 3: seems like a good dude who was through and through Wisconsin.

1458
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 3: I am curious to hear from Wisconsin fans. Please write

1459
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 3: in celiverbletgmail dot com. Please comment on our videos, please

1460
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: comment on our podcasts. Wherever it is that this finds you.

1461
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: If you are a Wisconsin fan, even if you're just

1462
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: familiar with the job and have an opinion, I'd be

1463
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: curious to hear. Do you think Jim Leonard staying basically

1464
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: inside the house, the Capitol w House is the right

1465
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 3: move or is this a program that needs to modernize

1466
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: and just sort of go outside of Well Jim Leonard could.

1467
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: He's a younger guy, and presumably if he is the

1468
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: guy long term, he's going to have his own vision

1469
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: because he is going to have leverage because we've seen

1470
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: already seen his name come up for jobs, and I'm

1471
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: sure he's going to get interviews and interest so he

1472
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: will have that opportunity as a younger guy coming from

1473
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, much like Barry Alvarez

1474
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, this is how I think Wisconsin needs

1475
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: to move into the twenty seventh century kind of thing.

1476
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 3: Well, I yearned for the days of Graham Mertz's five

1477
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: touchdown showing against Illonoia way back when. Yeah, and perhaps

1478
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 3: in the Jim Leonard era, however long or short it

1479
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 3: may be, we will get a little bit more of that.

1480
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: The big news here, Paul christ Out. More to come

1481
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: on who the next name will be in Keep it

1482
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 3: right here on the solid verbal for news as it

1483
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: becomes available.

1484
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: The Minnesota one, I don't have a lot of extended

1485
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: thoughts on Perdue being able to run the ball and

1486
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: O'Connell just being in there, you know, coming back from

1487
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: I think it was we talked about this, the rib

1488
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: injury that he sustained, and it's look, this is I

1489
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: think Minnesota is gonna win a bunch of games. They

1490
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: didn't play anybody in September like they always don't, and

1491
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: they beat a Michigan State team, and I don't know

1492
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: if there's some sort of title we want to figure

1493
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: out for either Michigan State or Nebraska, where you like

1494
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: think a team is pretty good because they beat Michigan

1495
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: State and then they're just it doesn't mean it like,

1496
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: is that the Tuck rule for mel Tucker, I apologize

1497
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: the Tuck rule. Beating Michigan State doesn't mean you're good.

1498
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: It just means you're a team. Yeah.

1499
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: Well, well Maryland, Maryland, Maryland beat Michigan State. They were favored,

1500
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 3: and that was a weird point spread that kept going up.

1501
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: And when we did the preview, I said to you,

1502
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 3: I just I'm not buying Maryland minus sweating. Sure, this

1503
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 3: is eight and a half whatever it closed at. And

1504
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 3: then the Terps come out in those really cool red uniforms.

1505
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: Oh they were so cool.

1506
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: The throwback. Yeah, the clean I think it's obviously it's

1507
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 1: under armour given their history, but yeah, look great.

1508
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 3: And then Maryland, not known for defense, shut out Michigan

1509
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: State in the second half and that was a ballgame,

1510
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 3: twenty seven to thirteen.

1511
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Maryland feisty. Yeah, they might not be great,

1512
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: but they've improved over the course of the year. They

1513
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: beat who they're supposed to beat, it seems, and on

1514
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: to live another day. Get to another bowl game. That'd

1515
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: be a a nice win, a nice step forward, and

1516
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 1: nice to see t Leah have another good game. Rickim

1517
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: Jarrett back in the lineup. Yeah, just after you know,

1518
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: getting hit and leaving the game the previous week against Michigan.

1519
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. You want to talk about Northwestern getting

1520
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: forty four turnovers and turning it into no points.

1521
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they again, the weather up this way was lousy,

1522
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: but lousy for both teams, just like a cold, steady

1523
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: It is the remnants of Hurricanian is what it was.

1524
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 3: Eight turnovers in this game, five for Penn State, four

1525
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: which were fumbles, and yeah, Northwestern couldn't do much with it.

1526
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 3: So at one point I sent a message to you,

1527
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, are we going to see Drew Aller? Because

1528
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: it just Penn State offensively could not get anything going.

1529
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: This is a weird game typically, and I know some

1530
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: folks in our discord and even some folks who listened

1531
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: on the Spotify show on Thursday were calling it out

1532
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: like Penn State's favored by twenty five some really high number.

1533
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: Do not pet Penn State, do not bet Penn State.

1534
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 3: And I wish I would have called that out because

1535
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 3: I felt similarly, But this was the clunker Penn State.

1536
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: Now Penn State starting to think bigger about things, starting

1537
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: to think bigger about things. It's not a finished product,

1538
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 3: not by any stretch of the imagination. I still don't

1539
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 3: know what's going on with their rushing attack. It's clear

1540
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: that they have talent, it's clear that they are better.

1541
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 3: It is not clear to me who they view as

1542
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: their number one running back. They are pretty content at

1543
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 3: the moment to do the timeshare thing, almost sticking to

1544
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: a script with it, which is very strange, very strange.

1545
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 3: But nonetheless they've got talent. I think as we get

1546
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 3: a little bit deeper into this thing a couple weeks,

1547
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about Penn State Michigan, which is

1548
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 3: going to be a fascinating matchup on about a thousand

1549
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: different levels. So they got to play better than this.

1550
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 3: But they always have clunkers against Northwestern. I'm not going

1551
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 3: to read too deeply into it.

1552
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: Northwestern just good enough to lose, respectively to most.

1553
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. The only other thing that I'll

1554
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 3: call out quick and you mention mine Williams. He came

1555
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: in after Trey Henderson, was a bit of a scratch,

1556
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: but five touchdowns, one hundred and eighty nine yards. This

1557
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: was this was like a thirty nine point win that

1558
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 3: still sort of felt like a clunker for Ohio State.

1559
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: Rutgers had some red zone struggles. They're beat up.

1560
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rutgers offense wasn't all that bad in this game.

1561
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 3: They just couldn't get enough points on the board. Obviously.

1562
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: The Nebraska game thirty five to twenty one, twenty three

1563
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: penalties for he can buying two hundred and forty yards.

1564
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: So Nebraska's still inconsistent and that's been the case for

1565
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But they get a win here.

1566
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: I really like Anthony Grant. I don't know, like, just

1567
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: give him the ball. Give him the ball the rest

1568
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 3: of the season. We'll see how things end up.

1569
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Nebraska on their own drive for six. Yeah, with the

1570
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: win over North Dakota and now any of they have

1571
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Rutgers perdue, we'll see. I mean, Purdue's on the road,

1572
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one. Illinois is gonna be

1573
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: a tough one. Minnesota, we'll see. I don't know, if

1574
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: they could get to five wins, that'd be pretty impressive.

1575
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will, but they're on their

1576
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: own drive. They're on their drive. Nothing to add on

1577
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: Penn State looking forward to Joe moorehead returning in twenty

1578
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: twenty six. I don't know. That just seems like it's

1579
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: going to be it's going to be a Matt cycle.

1580
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 3: It's going to be Matt role. Matt ru will be

1581
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 3: the next coach at Penn State.

1582
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he'll be an offensive coordinator back at

1583
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Penn State for Matt rule. Sure, for Matt rule, for

1584
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 1: James frangl whoever, uh twenty twenty six, twenty twenty five,

1585
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: somewhere in there elsewhere, I don't. I don't think I

1586
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: have anything to add about the Ohio State game, down

1587
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: game for the passing game. No Jackson Smith and Jigba.

1588
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, Rutgers is going to ugly things up. Some

1589
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: tension between Ryan Day and Greg Sheean. Oh, yeah, they're

1590
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: pointing at each other.

1591
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: John Moore.

1592
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1593
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: Otherwise, Illinois is your team of the day to me

1594
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: within the conference, I guess Illinois and Michigan. Let's go

1595
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: over to the PAC twelve. Sorry with las past twelve.

1596
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: So, UCLA knocked off Washington on Friday night by a

1597
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: forty to thirty two score. Ucla led this one twenty

1598
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 3: six ten at half. They added fourteen more in the

1599
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 3: third quarter. There was a brief moment in the fourth

1600
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 3: quarter when I wondered if Washington could complete the comeback,

1601
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 3: but it was not meant to be. Ultimately, this is

1602
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: a game that I think will go down as looking

1603
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: closer than it was. Washington could not stop UCLA's offense, like,

1604
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 3: not at all. Zach Charbonay ran at will. Guys were

1605
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 3: wide open down the field. You talk about, oh, you

1606
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 3: and the scout team. Washington had a little bit of

1607
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 3: that scout team defense thing. Yeah, on here, cover Jake Bobo. Somebody,

1608
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: somebody cover Jake Bobo, the transfer from Duke dtr had

1609
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 3: a monster game. A sweet juke at the touch at

1610
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: the at the goal line on a touchdown run and

1611
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw that highlight. Yeah, So a really

1612
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: good showing here by the UCLA offense. Washington really had

1613
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: no answer. Michael Pennox again showed flashes, but also showed

1614
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 3: flashes of those mistakes that tend to creep into his

1615
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 3: game from time to time. He had a pair of

1616
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 3: interceptions in this one. So I thought a good showing

1617
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 3: from Ucla here to knock off a Washington team that

1618
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 3: was top fifteen in the last polls. So Ucla is

1619
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 3: a team now we're gonna have to start talking about

1620
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 3: because they're undefeated. If you look ahead across the Pac twelve,

1621
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 3: this is like, all right, where does UCLA rank amid

1622
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 3: all of this?

1623
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: Dan, It's a good question. I think they're danger I

1624
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: think they're absolutely dangerous with that backfield. I look, if

1625
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: you look at this specific matchup, if I'm telling you

1626
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: that there's a quarterback involved who sometimes looks incredible and

1627
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 1: sometimes full on disappears or makes questionable decisions in big moments,

1628
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: who am I talking about?

1629
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 5: Right?

1630
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: Like there is something to dtr and Michael Pennix and

1631
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: like the Spider Man meme pointing back and forth at

1632
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: each other. I uh, this is one of the few

1633
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: games I got right this weekend because Washington hadn't been

1634
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: on the road, and UCLA always does something like this

1635
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: to a decent team anyway in the Rose Bowl. And

1636
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was a really well called game on

1637
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: offense and took advantage of the turnovers. And I still

1638
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: think Washington is much improved. I just don't think they

1639
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: have the dudes specifically on defense yet to go on

1640
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: the road and come out of this with a one clunker.

1641
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1642
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: The answer, by the way, to where does UCLA rank

1643
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 3: in all this is we're going to find out next

1644
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 3: week because UCLA hosts Utah Utah. Yeah, and maybe the

1645
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: game of the week outside of TCU Kansas, of course. Utah,

1646
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: for their part forty two to sixteen over Oregon State.

1647
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 3: Oregon State threw two picks on their first three drives,

1648
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: one of which Utah cashed in for a touchdown, the

1649
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 3: other of which was a pick six. Three interceptions in

1650
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 3: this game for Clark Phillips.

1651
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: The third ridiculous. The corner, to be clear, the corner

1652
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: for Utah, the all American caliber corner.

1653
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like a county commissioner, sounds like a very

1654
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 3: successful doctor. Sounds like he could really be anything he

1655
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: wants to with a name like Clark Phillips.

1656
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: Oh there was somebody, oh, doctor Richard Rees dds. Yeah,

1657
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: that's for Baylor. That's who I thought of for that.

1658
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, Clark Phillips. Maybe a somewhat problematic owner of

1659
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 1: a cable company could see it. Yeah, maybe owned boiled Derek.

1660
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: Or two in the Great State of Texas.

1661
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: I could see that absolutely. The only thing I have

1662
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: to say about this Utah game, and Utah did a

1663
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: nice job taking care of business, is you really thought

1664
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Tavian Thomas or Michael Bernard or whoever, that they were

1665
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: going to run all over Oregon State. That wasn't the

1666
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 1: case at all. It was Oregon State's defense, especially upfront

1667
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: against the run, actually made a good amount of plays.

1668
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: They didn't Tavian Thomason do anything. It was no I

1669
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: don't know how many carries they had, but it was

1670
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: not a factor. It was mostly camerasing just consistently making plays.

1671
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Not a ton down field, but that's not the Utah offense,

1672
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: especially without Brant Keithy, who's out for the year. Really

1673
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: nice win for Utah and sets up a couple of

1674
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: pretty big matchups in the next couple weeks. Right they

1675
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: have Utah and UCLA consecutively, right yeah. Yeah.

1676
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 3: So elsewhere in the PAC twelve. To round this story out,

1677
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 3: USC wins by seventeen over Arizona State, despite the fact

1678
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 3: that it was close at half twenty one to seventeen,

1679
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 3: but then USC pulled away. They're at Utah in two

1680
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:06,799
Speaker 3: weeks Oregon won forty five to twenty seven, barely covering

1681
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: the point spread. Good heavens, they pulled all their starters

1682
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 3: in the third quarter. But yeah, we had Oregon running

1683
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 3: for three fifty one and four touchdowns, led by one

1684
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 3: bow next your boy. Yeah, Washington State won by nineteen

1685
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 3: over cal three touchdown passes for cam Ward and Arizona

1686
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 3: gets the dub over Colorado forty three to twenty. Jaden

1687
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: de Laura throw us for four eighty four and six touchdowns.

1688
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: The six touchdowns, by the way, ties a school record.

1689
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: Jacob Cowing the transfer I believe from UTEP right, Yes,

1690
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 3: twelve catches one hundred and eighty yards in a touchdown.

1691
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: So we went to I think three thousand for his career.

1692
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 3: Crazy crazy. So the rest of the Pac twelve kind

1693
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 3: of sorting itself out as expected. But things are going

1694
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,799
Speaker 3: to start coming to a head here pretty quickly as

1695
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 3: we've got some of these teams pairing off against each other.

1696
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Oregon game was interesting. They were able to

1697
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: run all over They probably should have dropped me. What

1698
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: did they have at the half? They had a ton

1699
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: of points at the half. They probably should have had

1700
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: two more touchdowns, but they could not get out of

1701
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: their own way penalty wise. I think they had ten

1702
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: penalties or something in the first half. A lot of

1703
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: procedural stuff, a lot of offensive line issues that they're

1704
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 1: going to need to clean up before the schedule gets

1705
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: more difficult. Bon Nicks for his part, I mean, he ran,

1706
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: He had like an eighty r touchdown run that was great,

1707
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: threw into double coverage a couple of times deep, which

1708
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: I didn't love. That's the Ilo experience, that's the bo

1709
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: Nicks way. Here's the thing, though, and I think Stanford

1710
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: does have a couple of good dbs. I'd much rather

1711
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: a quarterback maybe not to double coverage, but heave a

1712
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: ball up to his best receiver in advantageous situations with

1713
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: a lead or whatever, like go make a play. But

1714
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Boenix underthrew those. Those were both very pickable balls that

1715
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember seeing. So that will be cleaned up, and

1716
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: the intermediate pass game needs to sort of take another

1717
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: step forward. But they stomped Stanford on the ground. They

1718
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: got whatever they wanted, and so I don't know. I mean,

1719
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 1: Stanford is now what one to nine in their last

1720
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: ten games since beating Oregon last year with the one

1721
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: I think being the Colgate win, like Stanford is, they're bad, bad,

1722
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: and between Stanford and Cal, there's not a lot to

1723
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: love in the barrier football wise right now. And Oregon

1724
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: schedule is gonna get harder. But I thought the defense

1725
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: played well. They were without a starting linebacker. Their corners

1726
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: played well, but again it Stanford. I don't know. The

1727
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: pass rush got better for Oregon. I Wazoo getting the

1728
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: win that they got, it's great. And I like watching

1729
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: Cam Woard. I mean he's good. I don't think he's great,

1730
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: but he's fun. Cal was not good. Cal's not good

1731
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: at playing offense in a college football way. Otherwise I

1732
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: don't have much add Colorado is very bad as well,

1733
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: and Arizona's fun. That's your pack twelve. Well.

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01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 3: Looking ahead to next week, some interesting matchups here on

1735
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: the horizon. Yeah, Texas OCA obviously the big rivalry game,

1736
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 3: but TCU Kansas, which we mentioned before, fun contest you.

1737
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: Taw Ucla Dan Yep.

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01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 3: We've also got Texas Tech against Oklahoma State, Kansas State,

1739
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Iowa State and Farmageddon Texas A and m All what

1740
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 3: could have been on the road at Alabama. The aforementioned

1741
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 3: Wazoo Cougars on the road at USC be interesting to

1742
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 3: see what their defense does. Iowa at Illinois kind of

1743
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: interesting on a couple different levels.

1744
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Yep.

1745
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: So not a completely loaded slate like we've seen before,

1746
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: but so many points of intrigue that we're gonna go

1747
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: through as we do our Week six preview. I guess

1748
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: a day or so ahead of our live show in

1749
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 3: New York City. Baby, Yeah, come on out. College Football

1750
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,839
Speaker 3: the Game Show. Sliverablelive dot com, Smell Tieshair dot com.

1751
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 3: Tickets still available, though we've moved a great number of

1752
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Speaker 3: them as this thing has gotten closer. We're very excited

1753
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: about the show, so come on out. You're gonna be

1754
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 3: in the area Chelsea Music Hall adjacent to Chelsea Market.

1755
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: I believe you told me.

1756
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: I think it's right there within the market. Yeah yeah,

1757
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: so come on out. Cool venue, Yeah, great show, great

1758
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: food right there. Otherwise, by the way, I didn't mention

1759
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: the USC game close at the half. The ASU pass

1760
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: rush in conjunction with the USC offensive line getting it done.

1761
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams athletic enough to escape and make plays. The

1762
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: receivers for USC were ridiculous, but I'm still not sold

1763
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: on the USC defense, and that's okay. They won their game,

1764
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: and they did so eventually comfortably. But it was something

1765
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: like twenty one to seventeen. Actually, like the USC freshman

1766
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: running back a good deal. I think it's re leak brown,

1767
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: say yea elsewhere just in the sport itself, because it

1768
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: was all over the place BYU the old wagon wheel

1769
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 1: going to provo.

1770
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 3: That's right.

1771
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: They take down Utah State after a somewhat slow start.

1772
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: They did play well. Tulane, No, Michael Pratt gets it

1773
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: done against Houston. Weird year for Houston, but Tulane. I

1774
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: guess the Kansas State looks better and the loss looks

1775
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: better for k State. Maybe Middle Tennessee in a letdown

1776
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: spot after beating Miami. Still, the offense was all over

1777
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: in this game. And Frank Harris, by the way, did

1778
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: everything good and bad your TSA. He checked every box.

1779
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Boise State scored a bunch of points after not scoring

1780
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of points and hiring Dirk Cutter to run

1781
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: their offense. They take down San Diego State, who could

1782
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: not throw the ball like I don't even know if

1783
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: they could if the ball left anybody's hands. They threw

1784
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: it so poorly and they fire Brady Hope fires his

1785
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Elsewhere in the sport, especially at the G

1786
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: five level. Georgia State gets in the win column with

1787
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 1: a comfortable win against Army. Air Force gets a nice

1788
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: notch in their Commander in Chiefs Tropephy race by beating

1789
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Navy in a weird like nobody's scoring a bunch of

1790
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: points kind of way, but they get a field goal

1791
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Memphis takes down Temple comfortably.

1792
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: James Madison tie.

1793
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 3: Forty to thirty over Texas State, Jamio staying unbeaten. I

1794
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 3: saw Coastal also remaining last second YEP one of sixteen

1795
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 3: teams in FBS that is unbeaten. Coastal Carolina and JMU

1796
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 3: both in the Sun Belt. Cincinnati won by ten over Tulsa.

1797
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 3: That was a game that we were interested in.

1798
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,799
Speaker 1: And Troy.

1799
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 3: This was an interesting wrinkle. Troy beats Western Kentucky. This

1800
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 3: is after Jarrett Degi started the year with Western Kentucky,

1801
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 3: transferred over to Troy, and then through two touchdown passes

1802
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 3: against his former team.

1803
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: Louisiana is not having a nice year. No, whatever you

1804
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: want to call him, I don't know. Yeah, they go

1805
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: down to the Jags. We're actually pretty good. I think

1806
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, we saw them come within a weird botched

1807
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 1: fake field goal of beating UCLA. So South Alabama moves

1808
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: to four and one. Liberty with a nice ish win

1809
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 1: over ODU. You tap over Charlotte, who, by the way,

1810
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: is one in five right now. I don't know what

1811
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 1: the future holds for Will Healy and Charlotte, but you

1812
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 1: tap a nice bounce back there. I mean, they just

1813
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: beat Boise State, so they continue to bounce back after

1814
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: a weird start. By the way, the coastal, the Myrtle hurdle,

1815
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that play great, really

1816
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: fun Arkansas State to two wins not something?

1817
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 3: Did you want to mention Ice real quick?

1818
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: Dude? Rice is three and two and they've beaten both

1819
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,839
Speaker 1: Louisiana and UAB and we're right there with Houston.

1820
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1821
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: After me saying in the off season, I don't know

1822
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: why Rice football exists some feist feistiness on the material.

1823
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to know if that's hanging somewhere. FIU won

1824
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: a real life football game. They beat New Mexico State.

1825
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: So Mike McIntyre with FYU getting to two and two,

1826
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I guess that's something. Wyman goes down to a very

1827
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: quiet three and one. San Jose State. Give me some

1828
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: doodle lords, Stan Jamiir Gibbs, what about what's the miszoo?

1829
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: Kicker's name is Harrison MeVis oh Man. He could play

1830
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: offensive line at least sixty percent of the G five

1831
01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: teams out there.

1832
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 3: Yes, he what a bull.

1833
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: Kent State had both a running back and wide receiver

1834
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: go over two hundred yards after their ridiculous, ridiculous start

1835
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: to their season playing Oklahoma, Washington and Georgia last week.

1836
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: So that is Marquez Cooper going for two hundred and

1837
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: forty on the ground and Dante Cephas two forty six

1838
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,919
Speaker 1: through the air. A duo of dudes money Monterey Baldwin

1839
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: for Baylor receiver goes for a bucks seventy four. You

1840
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 1: mentioned Jacob Cowing. Douce Vaughan got it done once again,

1841
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: but he's sort of a retired dude at this point.

1842
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 1: Drake May absolutely laying the lumber.

1843
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 3: Drake May, by the way, I told you this, he's

1844
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 3: the best two syllable quarterback in college football this year.

1845
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Is that true? It's better than bone necks.

1846
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: Better than bonnicks, yeah.

1847
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:45,879
Speaker 1: Probably.

1848
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 3: I spent fifteen minutes this morning at five am trying

1849
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 3: to go through all the one syllable quarterbacks, and I

1850
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 3: think Drake May is the guy.

1851
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: I like that You're not wasting your time with frivolous, weird,

1852
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: silly things. I like that it's what we do, focusing

1853
01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: what we do and really zeroing in on the important stuff. Well, yeah,

1854
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: I think that's all I have. There were great performances

1855
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 1: around the sport, but I wanted to highlight the wonderful

1856
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: Kent State performances. Why not beautiful?

1857
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 3: Well, thank you to one and all for bearing with us.

1858
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 3: Longer show, but a lot to discuss here. We appreciate it.

1859
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 3: Your support, as always is.

1860
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh we have by the way, Yukon beat Presno. Oh

1861
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: Shane in our comments said we forgot to mention Fresno.

1862
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 3: How dare we?

1863
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: How dare we Yukon twenty four point dolls? Yeah, take

1864
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: down the Fresno State?

1865
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 3: Dos Shay a bit of a glutton for punishment as

1866
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 3: a Fresn fan. Yeah, just wants to make sure that

1867
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 3: that losses on the record. That's how you know you're

1868
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 3: a a bitter fan. I appreciate it.

1869
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: Leave me second Jeff Tedford era. Couple of speed bumps.

1870
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a couple speed bumps. Okay yeah, Thank you

1871
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 3: again to everybody for bearing with us. Soliverablelive dot com

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Speaker 3: We're playing a game show. It's going to be a

1875
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Speaker 3: ton of fun. Yes, we have to work on planning

1876
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 3: that content this week, but I'm excited.

1877
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, We've got a bunch sketched out. It's

1878
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Speaker 1: we gotta get specifics.

1879
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Speaker 3: We got this, we got this.

1880
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Speaker 1: Dan, I have nothing else to add to this program for.

1891
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Speaker 3: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, soon

1892
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Speaker 3: to be a Tiger myself, Tie Hilton Brand, thanks again

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