Speaker 1: Anyone try to get your number, Rob, No one's ever
Speaker 1: tried to get my number.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: No. Eighty seven is my number? Yeah, same, Jules, What
Speaker 1: if Drew Bledsoe came out of retirement, would you give
Speaker 1: up number eleven? Then? What year my career two thousand and.
Speaker 2: Sixteen?
Speaker 1: Nope, right in your prime?
Speaker 3: No, the squirrel them all not just running off touchdowns.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 4: So though I know that's tough. We always had a
Speaker 4: thing because he'd come into a locker room after games. Always,
Speaker 4: he always like be rooting for me, even when I
Speaker 4: wasn't playing, and the stuff he was cool, I'd probably
Speaker 4: give it to him.
Speaker 2: It's true. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes.
Speaker 4: I'm Julian Edelman and I'm Rob Gronkowski aka the Rock,
Speaker 4: And this is the show where your favorite dudes get
Speaker 4: to talk about their favorite dudes.
Speaker 1: And Jules, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 2: It's free agent frenzy.
Speaker 4: So I think we got to break down some of
Speaker 4: the moves that are going around.
Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots giving away the richest contract in
Speaker 1: franchise history, more money than Tom Brady ever got per year,
Speaker 1: the current state of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Could it be a transition year. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: And maybe a little Aaron Rodgers talk. Where's he gonna go?
Speaker 1: There's a couple suitters out there still available for him.
Speaker 4: And then we wrap up the show with the chills
Speaker 4: due to the week presented by Corp's Light.
Speaker 1: And you got to stick around till the end. Let's go,
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Jules Dudes on Dudes is a
Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. But first, let's have a little chit chatter.
Speaker 1: What's going on with our lives right now? Absolusly. We'll
Speaker 1: get into the free agency in a little bit.
Speaker 4: But I just I just got off my phone and
Speaker 4: I see you're over at the Players Championship.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Players Championship, which is basically a fifth major.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm at my major.
Speaker 2: It's the highest paid one, right it's the highest pain.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is one of the highest paid, but it's
Speaker 1: technically not a major. But if they call it the
Speaker 1: fifth major, it's the Players Championship. I actually really didn't
Speaker 1: know too much about it because I'm just a little
Speaker 1: into golf. I'm not like a crazy fan like that,
Speaker 1: you know. I appreciate what they do. But I learned
Speaker 1: a lot while I was there. I learned a lot
Speaker 1: about the majors, how the Players Championship wasn't a Major,
Speaker 1: but it is like a major because you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's the you know, that's the highest paid and all
Speaker 1: the players, all the big time players still play there
Speaker 1: and they treat it like that. But technically it's not
Speaker 1: a major. So I learned that. But what was really
Speaker 1: cool about it is I got the caddie for will
Speaker 1: Zola Taurus for two holes. And then also I did
Speaker 1: a thirty minute you know, coaching session where I got
Speaker 1: coached at the driving range by Jordan Speith. You know,
Speaker 1: he you know, taught me some tips, taught me, you know,
Speaker 1: what to do so I can keep the ball going straight,
Speaker 1: you know, bombs. I hit some bombs, you know, I
Speaker 1: was hitting a couple.
Speaker 2: Of shanks, Like what club were you swinging?
Speaker 1: So we started with the driver, then we did the
Speaker 1: nine iron as well, and then we also did a
Speaker 1: pitching wedge. So that was really cool. And shout out
Speaker 1: real quick to Willie z. He looks like Happy Gilmour's caddie,
Speaker 1: you know, in in Happy Gilmore but unfortunately and he's
Speaker 1: a Games with Names fan. Great dude, loved him, had
Speaker 1: a great time with him. It was just so fun
Speaker 1: being his caddy. You know, really cool times. Man. I
Speaker 1: appreciate all those guys welcoming me.
Speaker 4: Man, Rory, he got to meet Rory and all the boys, huh.
Speaker 4: I got to meet Rory, Shane seventeenth hole.
Speaker 1: Shane Laurie. I got to meet who I said, looked
Speaker 1: like exactly like Travis Kelsey. Could have been the Kelsey's
Speaker 1: third brother, no doubt about that. And he's kind of
Speaker 1: Jack too, so he fits right in with them. But
Speaker 1: the seventeenth hole was really cool man. First off, TPC
Speaker 1: the one of the most beautiful golf courses I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life. Actually, it's the most beautiful golf
Speaker 1: course I've ever seen in my life. I love that grass.
Speaker 1: It's just crystal clear green. It just sticks out and
Speaker 1: like it just makes your eyes happy, makes you happy
Speaker 1: just looking at just hanging out on that grass. I
Speaker 1: want all my backyards one day to look like, you know,
Speaker 1: the TPC golf course.
Speaker 2: You gotta get drunk.
Speaker 4: To the Augusta mm hmm. You gotta get grunk to Augusta.
Speaker 4: If he's calling, I mean players champion, that's a beautiful course,
Speaker 4: but you gotta see the other the other courses. Rob,
Speaker 4: we gotta, we gotta, we gotta get you to Pebble Beach.
Speaker 4: Say like, there's a bunch of places that are so
Speaker 4: beautiful and then we throw you across the pond and
Speaker 4: it puts you over in fucking like Ireland or Scotland
Speaker 4: and see some of those beautiful courses.
Speaker 2: You'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I would. I appreciated TPC, so I'm sure I would
Speaker 1: appreciate all those other courses. And what my favorite part
Speaker 1: was when I was a caddie for Will is obviously
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. Happy Gomore is
Speaker 1: my favorite movie. So I put the caddy uniform on
Speaker 1: and I handed Will his club, you know, to use.
Speaker 1: It was a driver because it was a par five
Speaker 1: in the first hole that we did. And then the
Speaker 1: crowd wasn't loud enough because I got a little bit
Speaker 1: of a round of applause for being the caddy. When
Speaker 1: I handed the driver over to Will and I turned around,
Speaker 1: I was like that that wasn't loud enough. Louder, louder, folks,
Speaker 1: And then I started doing raise the roof and I
Speaker 1: turned up the whole entire place right on the sixteenth hole,
Speaker 1: right before the seventeenth hole. And that was one of
Speaker 1: the coolest moments because I felt like I was in
Speaker 1: the movie Happy Gilmore. I felt like Happy Gilmour at
Speaker 1: that time. And it's gonna be coming out, you know,
Speaker 1: it's already out actually, so check it out. It's just awesome.
Speaker 1: I love it. Did you try PJ tore for having
Speaker 1: me as well?
Speaker 2: Did you try to hand him a sixty nine degree wedge?
Speaker 1: No, Jeels, I didn't think about that. But now when
Speaker 1: we play, we better use that sixty nine degree wedge.
Speaker 2: That could be used real well in the sand.
Speaker 1: It could be yeah, right next to the water where
Speaker 1: it's all wet. You know, you definitely need that sixty
Speaker 1: nine degree weds then, you know, to be able to handle.
Speaker 4: Get got to be able to get under that thing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Gotta get under it. So
Speaker 4: did you have any caddy strategy or did you just
Speaker 4: it was just like he's just like happy to have
Speaker 4: you there.
Speaker 2: He knew everything you say.
Speaker 4: Hey, man, the hole if you look it over here,
Speaker 4: you see the ocean comes from this way, so he
Speaker 4: I know, it looks like it's a downhill. Putt, but
Speaker 4: it's uphill because the grain and the ocean pull it
Speaker 4: this way. I could see Rob giving some insight like that.
Speaker 1: I actually was giving insight like that. I pretended I
Speaker 1: knew the wind speed. I was doing that testing out
Speaker 1: the wind. I told him exactly where to hit it
Speaker 1: to the right more, I had him the driver. Then
Speaker 1: I handed him a i'm in iron. I gave him
Speaker 1: the wrong iron. I gave him a I think like
Speaker 1: a nine iron when he really only needed like a
Speaker 1: six iron. But it didn't matter because he had to
Speaker 1: listen to me the whole entire time, and he was
Speaker 1: going along.
Speaker 4: Gave a nine iron, would you wanted it? So it
Speaker 4: was a two hundred yard and you gave him a nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought a nine iron. I even I was
Speaker 1: trying to even coach him through. I go, here, you go,
Speaker 1: here's a nine iron, because this nine iron is for
Speaker 1: you will this a nine iron is between one ninety
Speaker 1: and two hundred and twenty yards. And he was just
Speaker 1: laughing to himself. You know, he didn't even correct me.
Speaker 1: And I gave him the nine irony. And he's such
Speaker 1: a pro that he could obviously just a shot, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on what club he has and how far it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can use a nine iron even though
Speaker 1: it's only one hundred and eighty yards away. Still, I mean,
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing and he had a great
Speaker 1: he had a great shot.
Speaker 4: How unbelievable is watching those guys just swing and stick
Speaker 4: those shots.
Speaker 1: They just make it look so effortless and you gotta
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and that's what makes it so intriguing as well,
Speaker 1: just they're just so consistent and it just looks so
Speaker 1: easy to them. It's kind of like watching you run
Speaker 1: a route, you know, back in your heyday Jewels, when
Speaker 1: I always just looked over, I'm like, that's just too
Speaker 1: easy for Jewels. It's like he's not even trying. Well.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with them, man, And it's all
Speaker 1: about consistency too. They're just doing it at a repetition
Speaker 1: that you have to do it at in order to
Speaker 1: stay at top of your game. I mean there, it
Speaker 1: was the practice rounds. It was just Tuesday. I was
Speaker 1: there and it was just a practice rounds there and
Speaker 1: they're taking i don't know, two hundred three hundred hacks.
Speaker 1: They're at the driving range before they you know, go
Speaker 1: around the course and take their practice rounds. So two
Speaker 1: hundred three hundred hacks on just a practice day, a
Speaker 1: day or two before the actual tournament. So it just
Speaker 1: shows no matter what sport you are, in basketball, football, golf,
Speaker 1: you know, it's all about repetition and doing it on
Speaker 1: a daily basis so you can keep your skills to
Speaker 1: the highest level.
Speaker 4: Practice execution becomes game reality. And the reality of it
Speaker 4: right now is that it's March. And what does march mean.
Speaker 1: March means March madness.
Speaker 4: Baby, are you watching this? Are we in a bracket?
Speaker 4: We're getting a nuthouse bracket.
Speaker 1: I think we do need a nuthouse bracket. You know,
Speaker 1: we got enough people to be able to make it exciting.
Speaker 1: We got about eight people in our crew. We did
Speaker 1: the nuthouse fantasy football and let me tell you that
Speaker 1: went terrible. But this is like my redemption went. I
Speaker 1: got in last place on the fantasy football side, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to get some redemption here. Man. I love
Speaker 1: college basketball. You know, there's not as much focus as
Speaker 1: fantasy football because fantasy football is eighteen weeks long. This
Speaker 1: is like, you know, two weeks long. You just fill
Speaker 1: out a bracket and then you just see it just
Speaker 1: do its own thing. So I can put all my
Speaker 1: attention to it for an hour jewels and fill out
Speaker 1: a great bracket and make up for my fantasy football loss.
Speaker 4: What's your first thought going in, like, what are your teams?
Speaker 4: Are you watching Arizona every time the tournament happens? Have
Speaker 4: you been watching college basketball at all?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: I really haven't watched any college basketball, but I'm a
Speaker 1: big college I'm a it is hard man. We got
Speaker 1: so much going on, and I'm a big college basketball fan.
Speaker 1: But it's like the NHL playoffs. It's like the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't miss it, you know, when the March Madness
Speaker 1: comes around, It's it's basically college basketball playoffs. It's must
Speaker 1: see TV, it's must see sports. So I tune in
Speaker 1: every time during March Madness. And it's so easy to
Speaker 1: catch up on who's the best team? You know, the
Speaker 1: number one seeds. I mean, you just study that. You know,
Speaker 1: study the teams for about an hour, You study the
Speaker 1: brackets for about an hour, and boom, you're right into
Speaker 1: it and you understand everything that's going on. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fill myself in and about the next week fill
Speaker 1: out a bracket and uh, you know, give it my
Speaker 1: best shot against all the nuthouse crew. Who's your team
Speaker 1: and who do you got winning?
Speaker 2: Jules, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I haven't I haven't studied it yet, and we got
Speaker 4: to study it here because we're launching this thing here soon.
Speaker 2: Did I'm always looking. I hope I need Kent to
Speaker 2: win the mac Tournament.
Speaker 1: They wont it in unless if they yeah, well.
Speaker 2: They state yeah probably.
Speaker 4: And then the crazy thing is that Cooper flag injury?
Speaker 2: Do you see that? The ankle?
Speaker 1: Wh what happened?
Speaker 4: That guy's going he's leading, he's leading, He's like that,
Speaker 4: he's a freshman doing all these crazy He's a monster.
Speaker 4: He's from Maine or is he from Maine? He's from Maine.
Speaker 4: We talked about it with Scalabrini. This kid's like supposed
Speaker 4: to be the legitist dude of all time on duke
Speaker 4: ankle heard it now, So that that'll that'll suck if
Speaker 4: he doesn't get to play. We have a shot at
Speaker 4: Kent though we do have a shot.
Speaker 1: Ten Does Kent State have to win the mac Tournament
Speaker 1: in order to get a bid into the tournament?
Speaker 4: Not that not that educated on it, but winning the
Speaker 4: MAC Tournament, you're probably in. They always seem to get
Speaker 4: in and they always win it. They'll make they make
Speaker 4: some noise here and there. Kent State basketball. He's making noise,
Speaker 4: still talking about it like it was yesterday. The Elite
Speaker 4: Eight run with Antonio Gates. He went to school like
Speaker 4: five years before me, and I used like last year
Speaker 4: whenever I would tell you, like, yeah, we went to
Speaker 4: the Elite Eight last year.
Speaker 2: I used that for like ten.
Speaker 1: Years, Jules. If the Kent State Golden Flashes don't make
Speaker 1: the tournament, you gotta root for Arizona with me to
Speaker 1: make a run.
Speaker 2: I always do.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Arizona basketball fan. Love their head coach,
Speaker 1: great guy, great dude. Hung out with him a few times. Man, great,
Speaker 1: down to earth man, and he just gets after his players.
Speaker 1: He coaches them hard and that's why they always have
Speaker 1: a winning organization there and a winning team. So I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of Arizona basketball just overall, and I'll
Speaker 1: be rooting, you know, for them, you know, deep down,
Speaker 1: and hopefully they go all the way this year. They
Speaker 1: had a couple of chances over the last two years.
Speaker 1: And Tommy Lloyd, he's got this team rocketing and rolling
Speaker 1: once again, and hopefully they play their best ball in
Speaker 1: March Madness when it comes around. So let's go Arizona Wildcasts.
Speaker 1: We'll be watching, y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Anytime I've always filled out a bracket, I'm always very
Speaker 4: biased towards Pac ten schools because I grew up in
Speaker 4: the you know, on the West Coast, and I grew
Speaker 4: up around Berkeley and Stanford and watching or you know,
Speaker 4: all the old Pack ten schools. So I'm very Pack
Speaker 4: ten bias on of my brackets. So does that mean
Speaker 4: I gotta go Big ten bias now? Like I'll go
Speaker 4: the Pac ten guys teams in the Big ten. That's
Speaker 4: usually how I'll formulate how I'm gonna pick my bracket,
Speaker 4: So I have like minutes to do it by now.
Speaker 4: But yeah, March Madness is always fun. Wake up in
Speaker 4: the morning, there's games all day, You're taking a dump,
Speaker 4: You're looking at your phone. Someone just fucking upset someone.
Speaker 2: You're like, how is there a game on right now? Like,
Speaker 2: March madness is literally madness.
Speaker 1: And you pray for a Cinderella team every single year.
Speaker 1: Is so cool when you like fourteenth seed, you know,
Speaker 1: team be a number three seed team like those upsets
Speaker 1: is what makes March madness. You just love every moment
Speaker 1: of that. And then also a player that's never been
Speaker 1: heard before turns into like a superstar just overnight because
Speaker 1: of March Madness. That's what it's all about. It's not about,
Speaker 1: you know, watching the number one seeds dominate a number
Speaker 1: sixteen seed and win it at all. It's about the
Speaker 1: whole process of March madness, you know, underdog winning.
Speaker 4: I remember watching Steph Curry at Davidson fucking balling during
Speaker 4: March Madness. I think what year was that. I think, well,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I was in the league in college.
Speaker 1: But yeah, speaking of Steph Curry, he's actually the new
Speaker 1: assistant GM at Davidson Basketball. I don't know how he's
Speaker 1: going to do that while he's playing for the Golden
Speaker 1: State you know Warriors, you know, in the NBA. But
Speaker 1: he's a new GM assistant GM at Davidson. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to have a GM now because of the
Speaker 1: NIL It's it's pretty wild. It's basically treated like you know,
Speaker 1: a pro team. So you gotta have a GM, you
Speaker 1: gotta have a head coach, you got to be able
Speaker 1: to have someone that has the financials as well.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And they got Curry as assistant GM, which is which
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. I think he's making history as like
Speaker 1: the first active player to do that in any pro
Speaker 1: pro sport. So you know, that's really cool. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Davidson to doing that. Shout out to Jack as well,
Speaker 1: Jack my man. So yeah, that's what's going on. That's
Speaker 1: what's came with him.
Speaker 4: That's gnarly. But yeah, March madness. It all started in
Speaker 4: March madness. Now he's the first active player GM for
Speaker 4: a college, which is if you told us that ten
Speaker 4: years ago, you'd be what the fuck you talking about? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't worry, But let's get back
Speaker 4: to football. It's the new year of football. It's officially
Speaker 4: in the books. What's that March one or something? March five?
Speaker 4: Free agency craziness has been going around. Have you been
Speaker 4: watching some of these deals? Do you have a New
Speaker 4: Year's NFL New Year's Kiss yet?
Speaker 1: I haven't watched any of the deals. On what was
Speaker 1: it Monday, I was busy a little bit, but then
Speaker 1: I caught up with everyone and everything about free agency
Speaker 1: that's going on and boom. Let me tell you, it's
Speaker 1: like WHOA a new shocker right to your face, Like
Speaker 1: your eyes just open wide because of just so many
Speaker 1: deals that happened, you know, especially if you're not checking
Speaker 1: your phone every minute, because there was a new deal
Speaker 1: every five minutes. So then if you didn't see what
Speaker 1: was going on all day, like you're sitting there for
Speaker 1: an hour like I was Monday night, just checking out
Speaker 1: all the deals that were going down, and it's just
Speaker 1: so fun to catch up. And what's so crazy about
Speaker 1: the NFL is that they made it a twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven, three hundred and sixty five days, year round process.
Speaker 1: Now they made it so you're intrigued at all times.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one really talks about the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl anymore. It's all about your team
Speaker 1: now going forward into the twenty twenty five season and
Speaker 1: having so much hope for him and talking about the
Speaker 1: trades and why they're going to be good, and talking
Speaker 1: about the guy that you got in free agency and
Speaker 1: that's why you're gonna win the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: So the NFL is doing such a superior job at
Speaker 1: keeping the fans engaged all year around. And you got
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to the NFL for doing that. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at free agency happened, and now they're
Speaker 1: already talking about the draft. I mean the draft. I mean,
Speaker 1: hold on, everyone's not even signed Jet and we're talking
Speaker 1: about the draft still, Like that's how crazy it is
Speaker 1: and how intriguing it is as well.
Speaker 4: Then after the draft, we'll talk about OTAs and mini camps.
Speaker 4: After many camps, we'll talk about, oh, training camp.
Speaker 1: In the camp, you talk about all the guys getting
Speaker 1: in trouble between tas and training camp, so a couple
Speaker 1: in between, and then that's when you don't want to
Speaker 1: be in the news. Jewels, is that period right there,
Speaker 1: that's the dead period and it's slow for everyone. If
Speaker 1: you're in the news, that's no good.
Speaker 4: So shout out to all you young football players. There's
Speaker 4: a high risk part of like when you're gonna get arrested,
Speaker 4: it's usually when you're away from the facility.
Speaker 2: That break.
Speaker 4: After mini camp to training camp, dial it back, have
Speaker 4: an uber, don't hit your girl, no guns.
Speaker 2: Let's get started to free agency.
Speaker 1: That's some good advice right there. Listen to it, young bucks.
Speaker 1: Listen to Jewles.
Speaker 2: Get an uber. Don't hit your girl earl, no guns k.
Speaker 4: It's a especially right after fucking mini camp to especially
Speaker 4: the training camp. That's like that's the window where the
Speaker 4: numbers are out. I mean, you're they're probably hearing it
Speaker 4: right now from a rookie advisor, like yeah, you hear
Speaker 4: about this of all time, and you.
Speaker 2: Could say, oh, I'm not gonna be that idiot. Why
Speaker 2: was that idiot? We've all been that idiot.
Speaker 4: So one more guy to reiterate to you younger guys.
Speaker 1: Just call ah uber or call on left or have
Speaker 1: your body that stays sober drive you and pick you up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or and.
Speaker 4: You know, arguments walk out the room. Okay, pistol in
Speaker 4: a certain state not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't.
Speaker 4: Don't try to bring it onto a fucking plane, little
Speaker 4: little common sense ship.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 1: It goes a long way.
Speaker 2: If you have to think about it, don't do it.
Speaker 4: If you like, if you're sitting there like, man, if this,
Speaker 4: I don't know, if they don't do it, and I'm
Speaker 4: I'm preaching to myself, we'll.
Speaker 2: Be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 4: Let's jump into this free agent frenzy, and let's start
Speaker 4: out with some of these fucking signings that the Patriots had.
Speaker 4: They signed some they've been spending that Gouda. They had
Speaker 4: the most money in free agency this year, and they
Speaker 4: were talking about spending, and they went out and spent it.
Speaker 4: Got Milton Williams, de tackle from the Super Bowl champion
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: Well, the Eagles wanted to keep them, but they just
Speaker 1: didn't have the cap space. And they are you have
Speaker 1: just so many dominant players on their defensive line that
Speaker 1: are young bucks that they're gonna eventually have to pay.
Speaker 1: So they had to let Milton Williams go. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Patriots gave him the most richest contract and Patriots history.
Speaker 1: I mean, what is it? A four year, like one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar deal. I think it's a good deal.
Speaker 1: It's not like they overpaid. I think it was very fair.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a great player, He's gonna make a difference.
Speaker 4: On that got to spend it, and you have to
Speaker 4: spend it. And he always built the team through the trenches. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is a splash. I don't know what kind of
Speaker 4: guy he is, but I'm sure they did their homework.
Speaker 4: You got a guy like Rabes there, he knows what
Speaker 4: winnings like this, Williams Country, This is awesome. The team
Speaker 4: needed that. Like and the money, that's not even like
Speaker 4: you can't address the money because no one's really been
Speaker 4: paid a big contract with the Patriots since Tom That
Speaker 4: was like eight ten years ago, which so those numbers
Speaker 4: aren't going to be high. So like him going in
Speaker 4: having the richest contract in Patriot history, that's just due
Speaker 4: to the numbers and what the league is now from
Speaker 4: when we gave a big contract out to another guy.
Speaker 2: Would you agree?
Speaker 1: I agree with you, man, And if you asked me
Speaker 1: as well, do I think Bill would have made that deal? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do, especially if he was in that situation with
Speaker 1: that much cap space and he needed a defensive lignment,
Speaker 1: well especially a defensive alignment. He would have paid it
Speaker 1: because it's a defensive guy and he loves bringing in
Speaker 1: those defensive guys and paying them as well. So I
Speaker 1: think Bill would have one made a move like this
Speaker 1: as well in this situation with that much cap space.
Speaker 1: It just overall, the fans wanted to see the Patriots
Speaker 1: spend too. They didn't want to see them sit back,
Speaker 1: relax and hopefully a guy falls into their lap for
Speaker 1: you know, a good deal. No, they went out, they spent,
Speaker 1: and the Patriot fans appreciated it too, because they want
Speaker 1: to see those type of guys out on the field.
Speaker 1: They want to see a winning formula. And I feel
Speaker 1: like they're on the right you know, projectory and going
Speaker 1: in the right direction right now with all these moves
Speaker 1: that they made.
Speaker 2: I wish they got more linemen.
Speaker 4: Like the center, Like look, d A just retired or
Speaker 4: I got cut, So you know, you wish him a
Speaker 4: what a great career, nine ten seasons with us. I
Speaker 4: remember when he was a young pup, eight time captain,
Speaker 4: two Super Bowls, Like, he's a stud. What what was
Speaker 4: the lineman that went.
Speaker 1: I think the Atlanta Falcons to the Chicago Bears. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: is that what we're talking about. I don't know exactly,
Speaker 1: but I saw that guy. He went from he's on
Speaker 1: the market to the Bears. Regardless, the Patriots needed to
Speaker 1: grab him, especially if they knew that's one guy the
Speaker 1: Patriots missed out on was the center from the Falcons
Speaker 1: who the Chicago Bears picked up. They should have paid
Speaker 1: him whatever he wanted.
Speaker 4: They got Tony as well, like the Bears had. They've
Speaker 4: they've picked up. Like I know, Tony's probably gonna be
Speaker 4: expensive and he's on the other side of thirty. But
Speaker 4: Drew Dolman, like we could have they could have got,
Speaker 4: Like there's been a lot of money given to players
Speaker 4: that they need, like they got Morgan Moses, but he's
Speaker 4: he's kind of an older guy, you know, and in
Speaker 4: you know, three years, twenty four mil eleven guaranteed he's
Speaker 4: he's just there probably for veteran presence and to swing
Speaker 4: and probably try to help someone that they bring in.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're gonna need them. They need line more line.
Speaker 4: I love I love the I like the Carlton Davis signing.
Speaker 4: I think that the Patriots now have two like legit
Speaker 4: lockdown corners. Like I think Carlton Davis is a number
Speaker 4: two behind Gonzo. Like they're gonna do a lot. You
Speaker 4: get inside pressure with Milton. The signing of Landry on
Speaker 4: the outside, he's he's a good football player, plays hard,
Speaker 4: has some has some experience with Rabel in Rabel system.
Speaker 4: So like, I love what they're doing on defense offense.
Speaker 4: I just need I want to protect the kid more.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're gonna do in the draft.
Speaker 4: So like I don't have any I haven't been talking
Speaker 4: to anyone, but like love it. They need to protect
Speaker 4: they got to protect him more line. Let's get more lined,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Look at these teams that
Speaker 4: have the best, the best teams in the league right
Speaker 4: now have have line we need to get.
Speaker 1: We need to still go out and get a star
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean that might be the draft. I
Speaker 1: like the Mac Collins more.
Speaker 2: I like Mac Collins though. I like him.
Speaker 1: He's a good pick up because he's great at special
Speaker 1: teams and special teams a key factor, especially with Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel being in charge. That's always been a Patriots tradition.
Speaker 4: I like him because they are They have a young
Speaker 4: football room. They have a young receiver room with a
Speaker 4: bunch of young, younger talent in there, specifically right now.
Speaker 4: Mac Collins. He's a professional, like he's got a bunch
Speaker 4: of antics where he does the barefoot stuff in public
Speaker 4: and dresses like this. But I've heard he like I
Speaker 4: know him. He's a hard working dude. He's mature. He
Speaker 4: has his public persona of what he is, but he
Speaker 4: gets a bad rap for that. But he's a professional,
Speaker 4: like when he's at work, he's a pro. So them
Speaker 4: having a professional in that room, I think it's gonna
Speaker 4: be big because he's coming from a winning program.
Speaker 2: He's coming from the big dogs.
Speaker 4: He's been around the league on a bunch of teams.
Speaker 4: So I like the mccollins signing.
Speaker 1: When was the last one you were bearfot in public? Jewels?
Speaker 4: I used to do the grounding number after practice in
Speaker 4: like spring, I would ground.
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in that.
Speaker 4: Because I think that's why he started it. He grounded
Speaker 4: like we were doing that like ten years ago, fifteen
Speaker 4: years ago, you ground after practice because they were doing
Speaker 4: in the EPL member English Premier League, we had a
Speaker 4: John Sullivan sports scientist that we used to have with
Speaker 4: the Patriots. He was over big with the EPL English
Speaker 4: Premier League sports scientists and they used to ground the
Speaker 4: soccer players after a long running session because it helps
Speaker 4: you balance or something.
Speaker 2: So we all started doing it.
Speaker 1: Remember, I do, I believe in it, man, I like
Speaker 1: it if you definitely want to reset your body as well.
Speaker 1: You're rhythmic, you know your rhythmic circulation or what is it? Rhythmic? Yeah,
Speaker 1: rhythmatic rhythmic rhythm. Oh my gosh, it's a difficult word
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: Rhythmatic circulation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rhmatic circulation. It puts you back on the normal
Speaker 1: sweep schedule that you're supposed to be back on. So
Speaker 1: grounding helps out big time. And you saw mac holland's
Speaker 1: dress up as a muppet last year too, when he
Speaker 1: was on the Buffalo Bills. Do you think he could
Speaker 1: dress up as one, you know? Or what muppet should
Speaker 1: he dress up as this year? Jules Now being on
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you think that will be fly, you know,
Speaker 1: being with Rabel or.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 4: If they're winning and he's producing, I think that's going
Speaker 4: to be the key.
Speaker 2: Like all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Like when you're on a winning football team, all that
Speaker 4: stuff works, you know, I don't know, it's a little
Speaker 4: different if you're not winning, you're not producing and you're
Speaker 4: not playing and you do that stuff. So I think
Speaker 4: a lot of that is situational for in depending on
Speaker 4: each player, each different team.
Speaker 2: You know, that's all situational to me.
Speaker 1: And then it's going back to their free agency. They
Speaker 1: picked up outside linebacker Harold Landry three years, forty five million.
Speaker 1: He's always got a vrabel guy from Tennessee. He's a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, and that's what the Patriots needed last year,
Speaker 1: was a was a pass rusher to get to the
Speaker 1: quarterback and put pressure on the quarterback. So their defense
Speaker 1: is looking strong. They went out they took care of what,
Speaker 1: you know, of the positions they needed to to take
Speaker 1: care of. On the defensive side, they're going to be
Speaker 1: very solid and you know, Vrabel's d might be looking like,
Speaker 1: you know, the type of defenses Belichick had back in
Speaker 1: the day as well. You know, you got to earn it,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to beat the guys to you know,
Speaker 1: you know, get first downs and touchdowns. So that was
Speaker 1: a good signing there. But we need guys on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. We don't know there is
Speaker 1: that game plan, but we need some more lineman and
Speaker 1: we need some more skilled players out there for Drake
Speaker 1: May and then I feel like the Patriots will compete
Speaker 1: where they really need to compete. They'll be at that level.
Speaker 1: Free agency is not over yet. There's some receivers out
Speaker 1: there as well. They can make some trades, but go
Speaker 1: out there, get some linemen, get a playmaker as well,
Speaker 1: and then I think they'll be set. And I Drink
Speaker 1: I think Drink May will take off, you know, to
Speaker 1: the level that he needs to in his second year.
Speaker 4: I think everyone also has to take a second and
Speaker 4: be reminded that free agency and is kind of like.
Speaker 2: Foo's gold, you know, fools gold where you know, like we're.
Speaker 1: A little off today, jewels, whatever pronunciations, fools, gold, fools goal,
Speaker 1: fools gold.
Speaker 4: Like because if these got like, if you're going to
Speaker 4: free agency and if you're that great of a player,
Speaker 4: there's a reason why the team is not signing you.
Speaker 1: I like your direction. You're going right now, keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 4: I just think that, like you always, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of free agents that get paid a lot of money
Speaker 4: to go be a whole filler at you know, another
Speaker 4: team that does a different thing, that has a different
Speaker 4: identity of the different scheme that there's like more cases
Speaker 4: that they don't work out than they when they do
Speaker 4: work out. You know, there's cases where they do work out.
Speaker 4: Look at you know, Kansas City with you know, revamping
Speaker 4: that offensive line five years ago with Tony draft in.
Speaker 4: They revamped that through the help of developing their team
Speaker 4: through guys in the draft and bringing in guys. So
Speaker 4: I think that like free agencies, like you're not gonna
Speaker 4: make your team the best. It's possibly because you're not
Speaker 4: gonna win a Super Bowl over free agency. I think
Speaker 4: you you put your team the best teams that we
Speaker 4: were always a part of. We'd bring free agents in,
Speaker 4: but we built our team through the draft and you
Speaker 4: got to develop your players. So like, these guys are
Speaker 4: good players that can come in at the last part
Speaker 4: of you trying to become the team you want to be,
Speaker 4: but like to be and grow a foundational team. That's
Speaker 4: why I think free agencies fools. Gold you understand making
Speaker 4: any sense and.
Speaker 1: You're making totose sense to me. Juels, I totally understand
Speaker 1: where you're going with.
Speaker 2: That, because you look at our teams. You look at
Speaker 2: our teams, you look at.
Speaker 1: It because of all the guys that we drafted, that
Speaker 1: Bill drafted, it was all core guys. You got to
Speaker 1: have that core base of you know, within your team,
Speaker 1: at the solid base of guys that have been there,
Speaker 1: that been through the rigger, that have been together for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, you know, four or five, six
Speaker 1: years together, and then you in other guys just to
Speaker 1: just fill in the bits and pieces. Look at the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Egles, they have those core guys. That's why they
Speaker 1: were champions this year. The Kansas City Chiefs, they have
Speaker 1: all those core guys. Those are the best teams. Every
Speaker 1: once in a while you see a team progress, you know,
Speaker 1: from like last to first because of free agency, but
Speaker 1: you barely see that ever happen. So it's like fools gold.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's like trickery. They go out and
Speaker 1: they get all these players and they think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be great and then boom, it just never happens because
Speaker 1: they don't have that solid foundation still, like you were
Speaker 1: just talking about, look at the Dream Team when they
Speaker 1: had with the Philadelphia Eagles back in like two thousand
Speaker 1: and what thirteen it was, They're like, all, this team's
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. They went like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just know. They didn't have a winning record, didn't
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs, and everyone's hyping them up because
Speaker 1: of free agency.
Speaker 4: So this is just a reminder like these are exciting
Speaker 4: times and these are awesome players that are coming to
Speaker 4: your team, but this isn't that. This isn't gonna make
Speaker 4: your team that yet. That has to come through foundational building,
Speaker 4: through like the GM coaching all together, and then it's
Speaker 4: kind of like putting the freaking whatever.
Speaker 2: Like the free.
Speaker 4: Agencies are like lights, and like the star on a
Speaker 4: Christmas tree, it's not the tree. The tree is the
Speaker 4: thing that you're decorating, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: like it's a good star that it makes the fucking
Speaker 4: thing happen, but it ain't.
Speaker 2: It's not like you could live without it.
Speaker 4: Like you've seen some sick Christmas trees without a fucking star,
Speaker 4: an expensive star that they did from now what I mean?
Speaker 1: Analysis right there, Jules, you hit it right on, man,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it's like. And you're not and you
Speaker 1: don't even celebrate Christmas, and you're still hitting it right on.
Speaker 2: We do both.
Speaker 1: You are our house, Yeah, you do do both. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Joe Cardono being the last dude from
Speaker 1: our era still on the New England Patriots Jewels and
Speaker 1: then Wilsll What do you think it says about the
Speaker 1: new regimen?
Speaker 2: The new regimen?
Speaker 4: Well, Joe being the last one standing doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: He's a navyman. M he's a navyman, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Those guys like he was a professional you know,
Speaker 4: like when you went to work, he was he was
Speaker 4: always like on time, worked his ass off, great leader
Speaker 4: by example. So like that's I expect Joe Cardonia to
Speaker 4: be one of the last guys standing, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean, because that's the kind of fucking guy
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the this is he was like
Speaker 4: one of the first guys because we had a couple
Speaker 4: of different Navy guys Eric Ktani, this, that, and they
Speaker 4: couldn't like they wouldn't allow the free age and to
Speaker 4: stay on the team because they still had to serve.
Speaker 4: He was the first one, I think to be able
Speaker 4: to stay on an NFL team will also being an
Speaker 4: active sailor where they let him play the season all
Speaker 4: year and then in the offseason he'd have to go
Speaker 4: to Newport, Rhode Island and serve while we all were
Speaker 4: on vacation, like our time off, so like all offseason
Speaker 4: he had to serve.
Speaker 2: So like what do I think.
Speaker 4: I think it's amazing that Joe's the last guy from
Speaker 4: our our era, and I also I expected it because
Speaker 4: he's that's the kind of guy he is.
Speaker 2: The admiral that's where we go down with the ship
Speaker 2: goes down with the fucking ship.
Speaker 1: What do you think the Patriots should do with the
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick now that you see what they've done
Speaker 1: in free agency, does that change anything with them having
Speaker 1: number four overall, which they should have number one overall
Speaker 1: and they would be sitting pretty But they just beat
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in that meaningless game. That just shows
Speaker 1: how big of a difference that win was. Man, they
Speaker 1: would be sitting pretty pretty if they had that number
Speaker 1: one pick. Joe Millton looked like a superstar. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that when he played. And obviously when you
Speaker 1: start your backup quarterback, he's gonna ball out, He's gonna
Speaker 1: give it his all. So like that was a tough situation.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying they would be sitting pretty right
Speaker 1: now with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not as bad, Like it's not as
Speaker 4: bad as when it first happened. Now looking at the
Speaker 4: draft of players were pulling from I guess right now
Speaker 4: because they don't have like it's not a so called
Speaker 4: quarterback heavy draft, so like there wouldn't be if you
Speaker 4: had the one, there wouldn't be that many players that
Speaker 4: are gonna like want to trade up to that one
Speaker 4: because that's what you honestly want to do with that
Speaker 4: one is try to trade back and collect a lot
Speaker 4: of picks. At least that's what I would try to do,
Speaker 4: because you have a lot of holes. This fourth pick
Speaker 4: is kind of like in that you know those guys
Speaker 4: are getting.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's as bad as I was a
Speaker 4: little disappointed when that first happened. But I don't think
Speaker 4: it's as bad because you can get the players you
Speaker 4: want at that four. Who do I think they're gonna get.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know who they're gonna get. I'd
Speaker 4: want more line now. I probably wouldn't go Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't because Carlton Davis signing right, Yes, that's
Speaker 4: a that's another good corner, Christian Gonzalez as well. Christian
Speaker 4: Gonzalez corner they don't need. And is here is here
Speaker 4: a finished product at receiver? I don't know, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. He's a really good defensive back that
Speaker 4: plays on offense a lot, and he played I mean,
Speaker 4: it was remarkable to see how many plays he played
Speaker 4: a game throughout the whole season. But I don't know
Speaker 4: if that's sustainable in the National Football League. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you could do that, and I think he's
Speaker 4: is he playing corner?
Speaker 1: No one knows what he's playing yet. I think that'll
Speaker 1: be figured out once he gets you know, to OTA's.
Speaker 4: So then yeah, I don't know. I would probably go, what,
Speaker 4: what's is it a Is it a lineman heavy draft?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: You can't is there can't take alignment fourth overall, that's
Speaker 1: just a reach. That's too much of a reach. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a lineman.
Speaker 2: For it, and I would trade out, I would trade back.
Speaker 1: I would trade out of it and then take an
Speaker 1: offensive linement.
Speaker 4: It's either because there's a lot of receivers in this
Speaker 4: in this draft, right, there's a lot of receivers.
Speaker 1: I think they need a trade out of it. I
Speaker 1: think they trade back, either get an offensive lineman the
Speaker 1: first one on the board, or they take a wide
Speaker 1: receiver that's gonna be available between like ten and fifteen, between.
Speaker 4: Which I think there's gonna be some guys there, and
Speaker 4: I think there's you want more of a polished, route running,
Speaker 4: conceptual receiver for a younger quarterback than like just you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Well, if.
Speaker 1: You're talking about a more Polish, you know, young buck
Speaker 1: like that. They got to go with Tate McMillan out
Speaker 1: of University of Arizona where I went to school, a baby.
Speaker 2: Times, pushing up, pushing over.
Speaker 1: He's got a great head on his shoulders and a
Speaker 1: guy athletic. Man, he's athletic, he's big, he can body
Speaker 1: out defenders. And he actually went against Travis Hunter plenty
Speaker 1: of times over his college days and he he did
Speaker 1: some work, man. I mean, they had some battles, but
Speaker 1: that just shows pro and pro right there, and he
Speaker 1: got open and and did his thing against Travis Hunters.
Speaker 1: So I think Tate McMillan would be a very good
Speaker 1: pickup for well if they trade back a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right at like ten to fifteen.
Speaker 2: See I heard.
Speaker 4: I heard Tate McMillan actually rented Rob's old house that
Speaker 4: has all the bras in the tree with his that
Speaker 4: he rented with his brothers from Arizona. So that's the
Speaker 4: only reason he's he's saying that we should pick him,
Speaker 4: that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: No, we need to grab him and he can bring
Speaker 1: the with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I I just want I want to protect Drake,
Speaker 4: So whatever that entails I'm not a GM. I don't
Speaker 4: think I have any of that kind of knowledge. But
Speaker 4: for me, whatever it takes to get protection, I think
Speaker 4: you want to protect him before you want to get
Speaker 4: him weapons. Let him learn how to run the offense,
Speaker 4: and then started throwing some nice weapons on the outside.
Speaker 1: All right, Team Matt with the number twelve pick overall,
Speaker 1: after we trade back, and then we get an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman in the second and it too because I will
Speaker 1: have two second round picks and we grab two offensive
Speaker 1: linemen in the second round. I think that's the way
Speaker 1: we should go.
Speaker 2: Jueles, you can never you can never have enough pass rushers.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 1: Well, Jewels, let's get into free agency moves around the
Speaker 1: league on offense.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: We just talked about out to the New England Patriots, where
Speaker 1: they still have some void. But let's get to the
Speaker 1: other teams now, and let's check out these contracts.
Speaker 4: Look at this list right now, Rob m what's the
Speaker 4: first one that hits you first?
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers not signing with a team yet, that hits
Speaker 1: me first. I don't think yet in free agency anyone
Speaker 1: was really overpaid. I think the market was kind of
Speaker 1: you know, played where it was supposed to be played.
Speaker 1: For example, it wasn't like Sam Donald went out there
Speaker 1: and became the highest paid quarterback I think where he
Speaker 1: signed with Seattle and was paid three years, one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars right around thirty you know, three million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. I think Biger Mayfield deal, right, Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think that was a great signing by the Seattle Seees.
Speaker 1: I think that's where he fits in. You know, I
Speaker 1: think with the market, I think some of these other
Speaker 1: teams have overpaid their quarterbacks tremendously.
Speaker 2: I gotta cut you off, all right, I got it.
Speaker 4: The one thing about Sam Donald, what did I want
Speaker 4: to know? What was the bottom line number that Minnesota
Speaker 4: had for him? You don't think they tried to sign
Speaker 4: him at all.
Speaker 1: I think they they had to try to sign him,
Speaker 1: but I'm probably pretty sure it was like a deal
Speaker 1: where it was like, I can't take that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: If I was the Sam Donald's camp, so he went,
Speaker 1: it was probably like to how much here twenty twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five MILLI year. I'd probably say twenty five MILLI year.
Speaker 4: So he got seven more here m h a year.
Speaker 4: So this is a three year deal. All right, how
Speaker 4: do you think Sam Donald's gonna do in Seattle when
Speaker 4: they just they let go one of the I love
Speaker 4: n Jigba Smith, but they just let go of DK Metcalf.
Speaker 4: They have a defensive minded coach who's really good on defense,
Speaker 4: but he's not an offensive guru. Where you know Minnesota
Speaker 4: has that. Like, if I'm Sam Darnold and it's a
Speaker 4: three year deal, which you're basically trying to hit free
Speaker 4: agency again in a couple of years, that's pretty much
Speaker 4: a two year deal right there. That's a two year deal.
Speaker 4: I would have done it for like maybe eight million
Speaker 4: dollars less. With the team that you know you're gonna
Speaker 4: hit on, you have rapport with, you have the best
Speaker 4: receiver duo with Addison and Justin Jefferson and Hawkinson and
Speaker 4: Jones and the like. You have a really good team
Speaker 4: around you. You have a good offensive line. You have
Speaker 4: a head coach that is an offensive minded head coach
Speaker 4: that got you playing the best football you've ever played
Speaker 4: in your life. Like I just wanted, That's what I questioned.
Speaker 4: What was the bottom line number that Minnesota gave because.
Speaker 2: Then I I just I don't.
Speaker 4: Know if if Sam's gonna be the same Sam he
Speaker 4: was in Minnesota in Seattle. With what he has around
Speaker 4: him in Seattle, I think he's a little better. He's
Speaker 4: a better Geno Smith. He's a better Geno Smith, but
Speaker 4: he's nothing like he's a he's a more athletic in
Speaker 4: a younger Geno Smith.
Speaker 1: Do you even think that Minnesota even made an offer
Speaker 1: or they're like, hey, no, no, that's why I appreciate
Speaker 1: what you did for our organization, but we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with our young buck. Because that happens many many times
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's always about the up and coming
Speaker 1: young buck. You know that that's coming through man. That's
Speaker 1: the NFL for you. That's just how it is. That's
Speaker 1: how business is done. So they might have not even
Speaker 1: given him offer and just said, hey, we're gonna let
Speaker 1: you hit free agency.
Speaker 4: They may have, but that that must tell you that
Speaker 4: they must really love JJ m McCarthy to have a
Speaker 4: kid that's never thrown a ball in a meaningful NFL game,
Speaker 4: To let someone leave your building, Sam Darnold go somewhere else,
Speaker 4: who just was in MVP talks all the way up
Speaker 4: until Week sixteen. Week sixteen of the National Football League
Speaker 4: MVP talks Week sixteen of the NFL like that, that's
Speaker 4: like JJ McCarthy better be the guy.
Speaker 1: Well, JJ McCarthy's into grounding as well, so he may
Speaker 1: be the guy. But hear me out on this. Jewels
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to the Minnesota Vikings for a year or two?
Speaker 1: How does that sound? Does that make sense? Is that accurate?
Speaker 1: Would that be a good good fit?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because it's probably gonna be more
Speaker 4: money than what Sam Darnold was, or if not, probably
Speaker 4: in that same ballpark.
Speaker 2: What if he's like, hey.
Speaker 1: I'll play for fifteen to twenty million this year. I
Speaker 1: got enough money in the bank, which she sure does.
Speaker 2: Like do they still like JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4: Are they doing this because they don't they think JJ
Speaker 4: McCarthy's gonna be good in the future, or they don't
Speaker 4: think he's a guy?
Speaker 1: They would do that because they think JJ McCarthy is
Speaker 1: gonna be good in the future, and he's also coming
Speaker 1: off an injury, so they're not sure how ready is
Speaker 1: gonna be. It can't do it, basically gonna be like
Speaker 1: his rookie year again.
Speaker 2: Then I won't I won't do it, then I won't
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: All right, If they think JJ McCarthy is going to
Speaker 1: be the future, I wouldn't do it. Then.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do it because I don't think Aaron Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 4: I don't think he's a type of guy that's like
Speaker 4: a let me mentor a young guy anymore.
Speaker 2: We just you know what I mean over it.
Speaker 4: He comes in with such an aura where he's not
Speaker 4: like that that's just not possible for like him being
Speaker 4: in the same quarterback room with the guy that's gonna
Speaker 4: be the feutre, Like I just can't see that.
Speaker 2: That's tough for me to see.
Speaker 4: And then you know, like they got good things in
Speaker 4: that that locker room going and I I just you
Speaker 4: know Aaron's is he gonna be there during organized team activity?
Speaker 2: Is he gonna do this?
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of stuff that comes along with Aaron,
Speaker 4: and they got a good thing going right now.
Speaker 2: They don't need that right.
Speaker 4: Now if they think this kid's the future, all right,
Speaker 4: and if they I think if they if they were
Speaker 4: gonna do that, then I think they would have kept
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold m hm, all right.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think see I don't think, but I could
Speaker 4: be completely wrong. Watch when this thing goes down.
Speaker 1: Yep, I feel you. I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: Because if JJ McCarthy's the future, you just want to
Speaker 1: go all all in with the guy that you think
Speaker 1: is the future. So he just can bring it all
Speaker 1: right from the beginning and just unleash him. That makes sense,
Speaker 1: totally makes sense. And then what about that Justin Fields?
Speaker 1: So you know, going to the New York Jets two years,
Speaker 1: forty million dollar deal, thirty million guarantees, So basically he's
Speaker 1: going to be on the roster for the two years
Speaker 1: with the thirty million guaranteed. I mean, he reunites with
Speaker 1: former OSU teammate Garrett Wilson, and it just feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's the right moveol for
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. But at the same time, the Jets starting
Speaker 1: quarterback position, it just seems like it's just cursed. It
Speaker 1: really does. Man. I mean, you got Geno Smith who
Speaker 1: was there, you had Sam Darnold who were there, and
Speaker 1: now they're booming since they've been off the roster for
Speaker 1: the Jets. You know, Aaron Rodgers goes there, he didn't
Speaker 1: play bad at all. His numbers were pretty legit, but
Speaker 1: just overall it just seemed like it wasn't going the
Speaker 1: right way. And now justin Fields goes does he break
Speaker 1: the curse? What do you think about this move? Jules?
Speaker 4: I think he's a This is a bridge quarterback move.
Speaker 4: This is someone who you know, the team probably likes that.
Speaker 4: He didn't turn the ball over last year and with
Speaker 4: the Steelers he had a lot of growth, had a
Speaker 4: lot of improvement in his career or in his craft.
Speaker 4: But who is very athletic, and they kept on talking
Speaker 4: about wanting to move the pocket, right didn't they want
Speaker 4: to move the pocket with the Jets and be more
Speaker 4: athletic at the position. And so I think he's he's
Speaker 4: a good bridge quarterback where they'll be competitive. Uh, but
Speaker 4: I don't expect them to do anything, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I think they'll be competitive. Hopefully they they
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what that move, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know what that that is.
Speaker 1: So would be the Jets. Once again, Jewels makes sense
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not trying to say that it's like a
Speaker 4: bad signing. It's just like, what what else do they
Speaker 4: have going? Are they gonna they got to build up
Speaker 4: that good defense and then have justin Like that's what
Speaker 4: are they gonna play that formula like Steelers ball?
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Well, I can tell you this if you're
Speaker 1: talking about that for row like Steelers ball and you
Speaker 1: don't know who to start justin fields or or.
Speaker 2: The formula where you play really good defense.
Speaker 1: Not too far back to bait.
Speaker 4: Okay, essentially what with the formula what the Steelers have
Speaker 4: been last like since Big Ben has left, Like having
Speaker 4: a really good defense that takes a ball away, that
Speaker 4: has explosion plays, that has a quarterback that doesn't turn
Speaker 4: the ball over, that will situationally run and take off.
Speaker 2: M hm. That's kind of what they're looking at. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, this one was intriguing to me, which I could.
Speaker 1: I think it was the overpaid a little bit, you
Speaker 1: know at this position, and it's the Indianapolis coach signing
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to a one year, fourteen million dollar deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like with the way that backup
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been getting paid, I feel like it should
Speaker 1: have been like a five million dollar deal with maybe
Speaker 1: incentives that can go up to fourteen million. Fifteen million.
Speaker 1: If you're the you know, if you're the starter throughout
Speaker 1: the year and you have playing time and you got
Speaker 1: Richardson versus Jones, that's going to be a quarterback battle
Speaker 1: in Indy. And they were the two lowest qbrs in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And I can tell you this, when
Speaker 1: you got two quarterbacks that are battling like they were
Speaker 1: what they were doing with Richardson and Joe Flacco last year,
Speaker 1: if they're going to be starting Richardson some games, if
Speaker 1: they're going to be, you know, starting Daniel Jones some game,
Speaker 1: when you have two quarterbacks, you actually don't have a
Speaker 1: quarterback in my opinion, like you don't really have a
Speaker 1: team that's going to be essentially focused on what you're
Speaker 1: going to do because you don't know who the guy's
Speaker 1: gonna be and it's just too much going on switching
Speaker 1: guys up and your game plans are getting switched up.
Speaker 1: So I think if Daniel Jones does beat out Richardson,
Speaker 1: then it's a fair deal. But if they brought him
Speaker 1: in to be the backup to Richardson, I think like
Speaker 1: a five million, six million, seven million dollar deal would
Speaker 1: have been more efficient, you know, for the coach compared
Speaker 1: to all these other backup quarterbacks like Matt Jones he
Speaker 1: got two years seven million, Jimmy g he got one year,
Speaker 1: four and a half. You know the Pats backup quarterback
Speaker 1: who they just brought in. They signed like what two years,
Speaker 1: like something small. So what do you think about that situation?
Speaker 1: I want to hear your opinion.
Speaker 4: This is a last call for Richardson. This is Hey,
Speaker 4: we're bringing this guy in to compete with you. If
Speaker 4: you can't beat him out, you're not the guy. If
Speaker 4: he beats you out, all right, he's a good bridge
Speaker 4: quarterback until we find another guy.
Speaker 2: Let him build off that.
Speaker 4: Now you list off a name of guys that are backups.
Speaker 4: Mac Jones two for seven, this, that, and then other.
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones has a playoff win. Daniel Jones won a
Speaker 4: playoff game. Daniel Jones. I've been such a guy that's like, oh,
Speaker 4: Daniel Jes this. But Daniel Jones, through being hated on
Speaker 4: in the New York media, this guy still came to
Speaker 4: work every day and was a fucking professional from what
Speaker 4: I've heard. You know, he looks the part in shorts.
Speaker 4: He knows the Reids. For whatever reason, they never got
Speaker 4: it done consistently in New York and he's gone. But
Speaker 4: I do understand that fourteen millions, that's the going rate
Speaker 4: for a backup quarterback that's gonna play.
Speaker 2: That's the rate now.
Speaker 4: And if you bring in all these you talk about
Speaker 4: other guys, Daniel Jones was a starting quarterback for three years,
Speaker 4: got a second contract with a team. Regardless of what
Speaker 4: you want to say that this is what the agent
Speaker 4: is telling the team. Hey, Daniel Jones got a playoff win.
Speaker 4: He's gonna come in and compete. This is how much
Speaker 4: he costs. So I think it's a good move because
Speaker 4: competition makes the best. This isn't gonna be a two
Speaker 4: quarterback system. This is gonna be either Richardson plays or
Speaker 4: Jones plays. And if Jones plays, that means Richardson's probably
Speaker 4: on his way out.
Speaker 2: M hm, that's what I think.
Speaker 1: No, I like you breaking down that situation.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It sounds appropriate, sounds right. And then also it's a
Speaker 1: fair deal if Daniel Jones does play. I was actually
Speaker 1: comparing his deal to the other deals. But those other guys,
Speaker 1: they know they're not going to be they're true backups.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones might be vying for the starting role at
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars. So that does make sense that that
Speaker 1: is what it says. It says, Daniel Jones, we might
Speaker 1: need you as our starter. So if you can beat
Speaker 1: out Richardson, Hey here's fourteen million dollars, you're not that's
Speaker 1: not true backup money, true backup moneys. Are the other
Speaker 1: contracts that we're talking about.
Speaker 4: The cold turn bringing him in to just be the backup.
Speaker 4: This is that contract tells me they're hey, this is
Speaker 4: you coming in to compete for the job.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 4: So you know that that's what that tells me, at
Speaker 4: least from afar. Kenny Picky going to Cleveland, got to
Speaker 4: shout out that old little trade, Kenny two gloves.
Speaker 1: You think he's a future in Cleveland? Possible? Is there
Speaker 1: a chance? Is there a slight chance that he's the future?
Speaker 1: Like he was a first round pick, had a great
Speaker 1: career in Pittsburgh, you know, at the college in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: and then you know, got first round to the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers and got traded to Philadelphia Eagles. He knows what
Speaker 1: it takes now to win his Super Bowl. He saw
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts did it. He was his backup this year.
Speaker 1: He has a Super Bowl ring now gets traded over
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. He has a possible shot at playing this
Speaker 1: year Jules and starting for the Cleveland Browns. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's already got a couple of starts under him. Is
Speaker 1: he the future at all? Is there a slight chance?
Speaker 4: I don't know, But when I see this, I just say, man,
Speaker 4: Howie Roseman, look at him, that dirty dog getting a
Speaker 4: fifth round pick for Kenny Pickett. Guys, easy game, give
Speaker 4: him DTR.
Speaker 2: We're getting DTR too. He's got some he's got some
Speaker 2: wins under his belt.
Speaker 1: He sure does.
Speaker 4: Look at Look at how Hero. You know, is he
Speaker 4: the It's hard to be the future in Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: So yeah, point, I think their future is in Tampa
Speaker 4: right now that they got rid of, and that's Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4: The future that they had they got rid of, so
Speaker 4: they browned it somehow. And I feel terrible for the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns because I went to school in Northeast Ohio,
Speaker 4: and I know those people, fucking they live die. B
Speaker 4: reed the Browns and and they're fed up with it.
Speaker 4: So I feel bad for Kenny having to go into
Speaker 4: this situation because that's gonna be a tough situation regardless,
Speaker 4: and I love everyone there. You know, Chatty O'Shea is there,
Speaker 4: and we know all our boys are. It's just a
Speaker 4: tough fucking place. That quarterback thing, that quarterback contract put
Speaker 4: them in the grave.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 4: Shut out Miles Garrett. At least they got him paid
Speaker 4: and stayed there. But which of these movies he things
Speaker 4: is gonna work out the best?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with m We didn't really talk much
Speaker 1: about it. Actually, I was gonna say Gino Smith, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't a free agent. He got traded, so he's
Speaker 1: kind of not in this category now because he was
Speaker 1: just traded. I want to say, Sam Donald, you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of brought it up that you're not sure
Speaker 1: how he's going to perform for the Seattle Seahawks because
Speaker 1: he knew the system in Minnesota that he should have
Speaker 1: stayed there, no matter you know how much money they
Speaker 1: were giving him, that he had, you know, the talent
Speaker 1: around him to be the guy.
Speaker 2: You know, are we on quarterbacks right now?
Speaker 1: I think no, We're not just on quarterbacks. We're on
Speaker 1: everyone overall. But I do truly think that Sam Donald
Speaker 1: will be the guy that they're looking for in Seattle
Speaker 1: now that Sam knows what it takes, you know, to
Speaker 1: get the job done, you know, like he did this
Speaker 1: year in Minnesota. Seattle went out and got him for
Speaker 1: a reason. They're gonna put the weapons around him that
Speaker 1: they need to and it will be a value deal,
Speaker 1: you know, to where he will perform to the value
Speaker 1: that he's.
Speaker 4: At league wide free agencies.
Speaker 1: I really liked Joey signing with the Buffalo Bills. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't believe he didn't renite with his brother, and
Speaker 1: it's in San Francisco, Like, how do you not want
Speaker 1: to play with your brother on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball, especially being two edge rushers. That would be
Speaker 1: one of the coolest things to see as just a
Speaker 1: fan to see two brothers going getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Imagine just them both getting a half sack at the
Speaker 1: same time, one going high, one going low, and just
Speaker 1: demolishing the quarterback. And then they get up and they're
Speaker 1: like brothers at the shoulders and hips jewels, one at
Speaker 1: the shoulders, one at the hips. That's not a penalty
Speaker 1: of them, That's what I was referring to. And then
Speaker 1: they're like the bash brothers and they have some you know,
Speaker 1: Bosa dance that they do after and the crowd goes wild,
Speaker 1: the fans go wild, and every time they, you know,
Speaker 1: get a half sack together, it's like highlighted all over
Speaker 1: the place. That's just been cool to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this isn't a Disney movie, and the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers aren't a winning team. And Joey Bosa said, hey,
Speaker 4: let me go try to chase one and go to
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. Okay, this ain't a Disney movie.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like the DeVante Adams going to
Speaker 2: the Rams. It is.
Speaker 1: I mean, Matthew Stafford needs that guy out there out
Speaker 1: in that field. I mean, Matthew Stafford still has it.
Speaker 1: He played at a high level last year. He's gonna
Speaker 1: play at a high level this year. They got that
Speaker 1: contract situated out that he's staying now with the La Rams,
Speaker 1: So DeVante Adams is gonna shine. I mean, he got
Speaker 1: paid again, bro. I can't believe that money that he got.
Speaker 1: I was understanding like maybe like a two year, thirty
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. But he got paid. And now Stafford
Speaker 1: can throw it to Puka at any time. He can
Speaker 1: throw to DeVante Adams anytime. He's got the Kyrie out
Speaker 1: of the backfield too, at the running back position. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking nice. Sean mcvaigh knows what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is something that they needed all last year
Speaker 4: they struggled in like red area targets and like guys
Speaker 4: that could win outside the numbers, you know, like having
Speaker 4: Coop and Pooka. Those guys, they were too much the
Speaker 4: similar guys. They're really good at intermediate routes, shorter routes,
Speaker 4: they'll get you over the top, but they're not They're
Speaker 4: not Like they're really good paired with a guy that
Speaker 4: can open up the top and and be a traditional X.
Speaker 4: Those guys are like F and Z's you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I do DeVante Adams an X like you
Speaker 4: could put him and say, hey, you go, we're going
Speaker 4: to factors as well X factors. So I think that's
Speaker 4: gonna be huge for their offense. Now, did they play pig?
Speaker 4: Did Puoka and DeVante play or did they play pig
Speaker 4: for the number? Because I know Davante got seventeen and
Speaker 4: I heard Pooka go on to McAfee and say they
Speaker 4: had to play pig for it. So I'm just taking
Speaker 4: it that Pooka lost it. Pook You lose You lost
Speaker 4: that pig, Pooka, you lost that pig, Pooger you love
Speaker 4: he did he lose that pig for the number.
Speaker 1: You can't be losing that pig for the number. You
Speaker 1: can't be doing that. You gotta at least be getting paid.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a young buck. You don't have a
Speaker 1: contract yet. Hopefully Devonte ed up some of that money
Speaker 1: and handing it over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got it, he got he got it. He
Speaker 2: got a lot of them, a lot of those.
Speaker 1: Or maybe he's just a good guy like that. And
Speaker 1: I think Pooko probably think like like you know, throughout
Speaker 1: his childhood. I mean, how do you not look up
Speaker 1: at DeVante Adams if you're a young buck wide receiver,
Speaker 1: especially when he comes on the roster. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: easy to just hand over the jersey number because it's
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, one of the best wide receivers to ever
Speaker 1: play the game. So, I mean, I'm sure there was
Speaker 1: some negotiations. I don't know how it truly went down soon.
Speaker 2: Coming.
Speaker 1: No one's ever tried to get my number.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Eighty seven is my number, Jewels, no one's coming for it.
Speaker 1: And when I got to Tampa. There was some no
Speaker 1: name or wide receiver whether it and I literally said
Speaker 1: give me that number, and he's like, no problem, ground
Speaker 1: here it is. I was like, that's right, mofo, hand
Speaker 1: that number, Rover, that's mine. In the in the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay was like the organization was like, that's right, you
Speaker 1: take control of that number. That number as yours. So
Speaker 1: I got it right away.
Speaker 2: You give me anything.
Speaker 1: No, it was. It was a guy that I don't
Speaker 1: even think was on the team when I got there,
Speaker 1: Like he was there in the off season, but then
Speaker 1: he wasn't there like after because that was during COVID.
Speaker 1: I don't even know who it was. But there was
Speaker 1: someone at the bottom of the roster with eighty seven
Speaker 1: and they just coughed it over to me. So there
Speaker 1: was no negotiations. It was nice. I'm just glad that
Speaker 1: no one legit had it at that time when I
Speaker 1: got there. Yeah, Jules, what if Drew Blutsoll came out
Speaker 1: of retirement, would you give up number eleven? Then?
Speaker 2: What year my career.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and sixteen. Nope, right in your prime, a squirrel.
Speaker 3: Not just running all over the touchdowns.
Speaker 2: He's Drew Buzel though I know it's tough.
Speaker 4: Mister Winery, he always we always had a thing because
Speaker 4: he'd come into a locker room after games and always
Speaker 4: he always like be rooting for me, even when I
Speaker 4: wasn't playing this stuff. He was cool. I'd probably give
Speaker 4: it to him. It's true, you still throw it. We
Speaker 4: got to talk about these fucking Niners. Just my forty
Speaker 4: nine ers childhood team just being gutted, only eleven starters
Speaker 4: from their twenty two remaining from the super Bowl team.
Speaker 4: They in a full rebuild or what.
Speaker 1: I think they are kind of in a full rebuild?
Speaker 1: And has Brock the guy that's actually the main question
Speaker 1: is Brock pretty the guy in San Francisco? And how
Speaker 1: much do you pay him?
Speaker 2: When are they gonna pay him? I have to got
Speaker 2: him right.
Speaker 1: They gotta let it ride one more year, right, let
Speaker 1: it ride.
Speaker 2: I don't know if is bruck agent gonna allow that?
Speaker 1: Does he sit out?
Speaker 4: No? I don't think he's kind of guy. I think
Speaker 4: they'll get something done before. But like, what's that number
Speaker 4: gonna be? Is it gonna be a five in the
Speaker 4: front or is it gonna be a four in the front,
Speaker 4: or is it gonna be a high three in the front.
Speaker 1: I would say, if I was a San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, I'd be really happy if they could sign
Speaker 1: them with a four in the front anywhere from forty
Speaker 1: four to forty eight million dollars a year. The front
Speaker 1: office of the San Francisco forty nine Ers would take that,
Speaker 1: I believe, and I think that would be a very
Speaker 1: fair deal for both parties too.
Speaker 4: But I'm Brock Perdi's agent, and I'm gonna sit here
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna say, you mean to tell me Dak Prescott,
Speaker 4: a guy that doesn't even have one season worth of
Speaker 4: playoff wins that my fucking little seventh round quarterback does
Speaker 4: who's making sixty million dollars, is twelve million dollars better
Speaker 4: than my guy.
Speaker 2: I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Right As an agent, That's when the egos kick in,
Speaker 1: and it's always up to you know, the player as well,
Speaker 1: to tell their agent, Hey, I'm willing to, you know,
Speaker 1: take less money, a little bit less, not too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ron through this situation. Because I've never been through
Speaker 4: this situation. Go ahead, how does this situation?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about? Jewels? Free agent situation.
Speaker 4: Like when a team's about to unload a truck of
Speaker 4: money to you, like, do you the conversation you have
Speaker 4: to your agent, like, hey man, I don't need it
Speaker 4: all I want I want some to go to the team.
Speaker 1: I mean, you were in this situation, Jules, when you
Speaker 1: have a free agent. But I wasn't really in this
Speaker 1: situation either, because it wasn't like I was in the
Speaker 1: prime of my career when I was in Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 1: I had the Buffalo Bills they offered me. I think,
Speaker 1: uh it was one mill or two mil more than
Speaker 1: what the Tampa Bay Bucks were offering me, you know,
Speaker 1: to go to go back to Tampa my second year.
Speaker 1: But literally it didn't matter if the Buffalo Bills offered
Speaker 1: me five million dollars more. At that time, I knew
Speaker 1: my mindset was to go back to the Bucks for
Speaker 1: the second year, you know, out of retirement, and you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to play with the Bucks. I was familiar
Speaker 1: with the situation. I was happy, you know, with the
Speaker 1: living conditions as well. You got the nice weather, my
Speaker 1: mom two hours down the street.
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like when Godwin probably felt exactly.
Speaker 1: It's exactly how I believe Godwin has felt as well, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got my family here, it's nice weather around twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven. I know, I know the organization, I
Speaker 1: know the playbook, and that's how I was feeling at
Speaker 1: that time.
Speaker 4: So I know the taxes.
Speaker 1: The taxes as well. Yes, So it's not always about
Speaker 1: getting the most bang for your buck and free agency.
Speaker 1: It's where you fit in as well. And that's where
Speaker 1: I fit in, you know, was with the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Bucks at that time. I could have fit in actually
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills with Josh Allen out about that,
Speaker 1: but it was truly uh you know, meant for me
Speaker 1: to be down here still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but that was.
Speaker 1: My only situation. It wasn't like ten million dollar difference
Speaker 1: it was. It was it was I signed one year
Speaker 1: ten million in Tampa and like Buffalo Bills were offering
Speaker 1: like one year eleven million. So it wasn't even that
Speaker 1: big of a of a difference, Jewels. So I actually
Speaker 1: really never been truly truly in that situation where it's
Speaker 1: like a five to ten million dollar difference.
Speaker 4: Well, you probably you're in a different mindset than Trudavious war,
Speaker 4: Javen Hargrave, Dre Greenlaw, hufonga us Check and Deebo because
Speaker 4: they said they want to go somewhere else for a
Speaker 4: couple extra million mm hm.
Speaker 1: Well, or it's in different situations, man.
Speaker 4: Man Niners in a full rebuild. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 4: when they lost that Super Bowl, and I think I
Speaker 4: have people around where I said that was their window,
Speaker 4: that was it, and I I don't want to be
Speaker 4: because I'm on a text chain with all my high
Speaker 4: school friends and they're all Niners fans.
Speaker 1: So we're recording this a couple of days into free agency,
Speaker 1: so a lot of things could change.
Speaker 2: But we thought it'd be fun to look into our
Speaker 2: crystal ball.
Speaker 1: Oh, the crystal Ball. Let's hear the first read jewels
Speaker 1: for the crystal Ball.
Speaker 4: Justin Fields will win more games at quarterback for the
Speaker 4: New York Football Jets than Aaron Rodgers did five games?
Speaker 4: Will he win five games? Justin Field? I think they're
Speaker 4: gonna win more five games.
Speaker 1: I'm on the same page. I think this crystal ball
Speaker 1: is on the right path. This crystal ball knows what
Speaker 1: it's talking about. So far. I think they went about
Speaker 1: six games, shoot eight games this year. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna show improvement from last year. So the crystal Ball
Speaker 1: says yes.
Speaker 2: I think I agree with the crystal Ball.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 4: I think the defense is gonna play a lot better
Speaker 4: with Aaron Glenn at head coach. Like the defense was
Speaker 4: good at then they had too much fucking stuff going
Speaker 4: on in the Jets lock. So like the strength of
Speaker 4: their team didn't play as the strength of their team
Speaker 4: last year. I think the strength of their team is
Speaker 4: gonna get back to being the strength of their team
Speaker 4: this year because of Aaron Glenn. So I think yes,
Speaker 4: Justin Fields will have more than five wins or four wins,
Speaker 4: five games, four wins.
Speaker 1: Number two nuts all right, crystal Ball Number two Mac
Speaker 1: Jones will start more than three games in San Francisco
Speaker 1: in two thy and twenty five. Oh, crystal Ball, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go against you on this one. I think that's
Speaker 1: a no. The only way that that is happening is
Speaker 1: if Brock Perdy gets hurt. But I don't think that's
Speaker 1: going to be the case. Uh So the crystal Ball
Speaker 1: on this one says, no, no chance of this happening.
Speaker 1: Brock Purty is too legit.
Speaker 4: Well, does the crystal Ball not see in the past
Speaker 4: all the injuries that old Brock Perte has attained.
Speaker 2: Huh, it's not reading. He has been hurt.
Speaker 4: The future is his left tackle, backup left tackle that
Speaker 4: played a lot because big boy, Big Trent. You know
Speaker 4: he's been banged up last coup. He's not there. They're
Speaker 4: they're losing lineman. They don't have debo, you know. Will
Speaker 4: he be holding on.
Speaker 2: To that ball?
Speaker 4: Ricky Piersoll is his only target right now? Will he
Speaker 4: be holding on to that? Is Christian McCaffrey playing this year,
Speaker 4: So we'll see if you say the crystal ball says no,
Speaker 4: I think crystals.
Speaker 1: No, Oh, wasn't your crystal ball? Your says no to I.
Speaker 2: Think he might play two games, not three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's more than three, so he actually has
Speaker 1: to play four games.
Speaker 2: All right, I got I got a crystal ball for you.
Speaker 2: All right, let's here. The New England Patriots will make
Speaker 2: the playoffs in there first year under coach Mike Vrayball.
Speaker 2: Crystal ball, this crystal ball, I think they're going to.
Speaker 1: This crystal ball is feeling today and crystal crystal ball
Speaker 1: here as well. What's funny is my brother's name is
Speaker 1: crystal Ball in Spanish, but it's totally spelled different. This
Speaker 1: is crystal Ball like two separate words. Crystal Ball is
Speaker 1: just one word. It's a name. So it's kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of my brother. My brother is kind of
Speaker 1: like a genius like that too. He just knows what's
Speaker 1: going to happen in the future. So crystal balls are smart.
Speaker 1: So shout out to my brother Chris for being the
Speaker 1: original crystal Balls. Yeah, shout out grizz Ball and uh,
Speaker 1: the New England Pitchers, I believe too, along with the
Speaker 1: crystal Ball will make the playoffs in the first year
Speaker 1: under Mike Rabel. I feel like the you know, Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills will hold it down again and be the champs
Speaker 1: of the AFC East. But I mean, you got the Jets,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be all right, you know, nothing special. You
Speaker 1: got Miami and ain't like they're making moves right now.
Speaker 1: It's all the same guys from last year. I you know,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be competitive, they're gonna be right in the middle.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking the New England Patriots when Mike Rabel
Speaker 1: is going to take it up a notch in they're
Speaker 1: gonna be the team that's going into the playoffs this
Speaker 1: year as the number two seed and out of not
Speaker 1: the number two seed overall, but as the number two team,
Speaker 1: uh making the playoffs, so as a wild card from
Speaker 1: the AFC East.
Speaker 4: I agree, But my mind went to when you said
Speaker 4: Miami's gonna be my mind went to, man, all those
Speaker 4: wine bars in Boca, better watch out for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: He just got shipped to town.
Speaker 1: All those moms, mama jamas. You like mom's jewels.
Speaker 2: I love my mom. Gino Smith, Crystal Ball.
Speaker 4: Tino Smith will have triends than Sam Darnold. I'm going yes,
Speaker 4: I'm going Crystal Balls. Yes, because I think the Raiders
Speaker 4: are trending up.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I just like the leadership there.
Speaker 1: I'm going yes as well. All because of my guy
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers. Man love seeing him. He's gonna have a
Speaker 1: reliable target at all times. You know, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a system that's gonna benefit Geno Smith as well. He's
Speaker 1: reuniting with head coach Pete Carroll. You got Brady there
Speaker 1: as well. He's not gonna let this team, you know,
Speaker 1: be you know in the mid mid level of the pack.
Speaker 1: He wants to take it up the notch. So I
Speaker 1: think yes, he outperforms Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm going.
Speaker 4: I just think it's gonna be tough for I don't
Speaker 4: think Seattle has a lot of I mean, they got Walker,
Speaker 4: they got Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's tough that that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna he's gonna have the
Speaker 4: same production as what he had in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: They'll have a really good defense.
Speaker 4: But and that that division's up for the taken in uh,
Speaker 4: you know, with LA being the NFC West, like Big Dog,
Speaker 4: I think the other three can can fight each other.
Speaker 2: So but I'm going with I'm going I.
Speaker 4: Believe in Pete Carroll and Gino Smith trying to go
Speaker 4: out and purposely have more wins than Seattle to show
Speaker 4: them that they still have it all right.
Speaker 1: And the last crystal ball reading we got here, woo,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup will have one hundred catches for one thousand
Speaker 1: yards and six tds in twenty twenty five, and Roberto's
Speaker 1: crystal Ball says no, Yes, Cooper Cup will have an impact,
Speaker 1: but he will not be one hundred catch guy, I
Speaker 1: say more around, you know, seventy seventy five catches, possibly
Speaker 1: a thousand yards, possibly six touchdowns. But not a one
Speaker 1: hundred catch guy. You know he's going to make an impact,
Speaker 1: he's gonna do well. You know he's going to be
Speaker 1: a reliable target. But my crystal ball here says, no,
Speaker 1: he's thirty four years old as.
Speaker 2: Well, thirty one, not thirty four, thirty one.
Speaker 1: Years old as well, So you can still run, still
Speaker 1: make an impact. But being a hundred catch guy, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough.
Speaker 4: Rob, I had a hundred catches. I had one hundred
Speaker 4: catches at thirty three.
Speaker 1: Well you're joining, I'll I don't nut.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think if he he messes around and
Speaker 4: goes to like the Niners or like one of these
Speaker 4: systems that will feed them that need them. M hm, hundreds,
Speaker 4: I mean it's not easy to I'm going, I'm going now,
Speaker 4: I'm going now.
Speaker 2: I thought he's still he can still.
Speaker 4: It, just don't you don't know if he's gonna be
Speaker 4: the feature guy anywhere, So no, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: Then he already admit before last season that he's not
Speaker 1: the feature guy anymore and that Pooka is. Then he
Speaker 1: say something along those lines.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from what I could reach call, I think he
Speaker 1: did so he doesn't want to be the feature guy.
Speaker 1: I think he wants to be the number two and
Speaker 1: you know have that you know load taking off his shoulder,
Speaker 1: which is understandable. I mean, when you hit your thirties,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what happens.
Speaker 4: It does, it does, unless you know, that's when the
Speaker 4: wheels start to fall off.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That was fun. The crystal ball segment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. We need more crystal ball, you know, and.
Speaker 2: The more crystal ball.
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Speaker 1: And all season only player in twenty twenty four with
Speaker 1: a punt return and kick return for a touchdown, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the NFL when he could have been in the
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Speaker 1: two USFL MVP. And he also played EuroLeague Long Row.
Speaker 1: So let's go road that developed him into being that
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Speaker 4: And that's the chill and that's the chill Dude of
Speaker 4: the week. Well, that's been another episode of Dudes on Due.
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