1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett Downing 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: and I'm joined here by the Hall of Famer Clifton Brown, 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: who's stepping in for Ryan Mink this week, and Cliff 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: for a couple of days removed now from the Super 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Bowl and the NFL world is all talking about what 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and the Seattle Seahawks were able to do 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: and taking down the Patriots and to hoist that Lombardi Trophies. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: So let's just start there. We got a number of 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: things to get to in today's episode, but I want 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: to start with the Super Bowl. When you watched that game, 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: when you saw what Seattle was able to do, What 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: were the first thoughts that you had as you watched 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: that all unfold? 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Dominant defense, which I'm sure a lot of people were 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: thinking as they watched that game play out. I mean, 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: it looked like we might have seen the first had 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: a chance to see the first shut out in Super 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Bowl history till the Patriots finally got on the board 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: late in the game. You just got the feeling that 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: the Seahawks were in control of that game, be called 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: of their defense, and that the Patriots didn't have any answers, 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: and so we all love offense, at least most of us, 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: and high scoring games. Offense is sexy. But that Seahawks defense, 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: and that Seahawks team won in Super Bowl on the 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: strength of their defense. 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I think there's a lot of people in 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: this building that have a ton of respect from Mike McDonald, 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: myself included. I think that he's a great coach, great guy, 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: and I'm happy for him, like he's somebody that he 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: made an impact here, no doubt. I think that a 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: lot of people felt like when he left, he's going 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: to be good, he's going to be successful. He's smart, 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: he's engaging, he's innovative, and so seeing the type of 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: success that they've had, I don't think is necessarily a surprise. 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I felt I was happy 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: for him. I was happy for him that he was 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: able to achieve this so quickly and get the opportunity 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: to hoist that Lombardi, which everybody is chasing, of course, 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: And so I think that there really was a feeling 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: that I had of like, I'm happy for Mike. I'm 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: happy for Mike and what he was able to do. 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, three hundred percent of what you said. 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Yet to do it that rapidly though, is really impressive. 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the Seahawks a couple of years ago and 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: even last year did not make the playoffs, and it 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: seemed like every change they made this year worked out 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: for them, whether it was Sam Donald a quarterback again. 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: The defense, you know, Mike's obviously acumen there, you know, 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: obviously one of the brightest defensive coaches in the league. 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: And now that's to assume that head coaching role. To me, 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: you never really know how someone's going to be as 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: a head coach for sure until they take the job. 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: And Mike at a very young age, the presence he 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: shows as a head coach, it's undeniable. And when I 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: watch some of the clips of when he speaks to 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: the team, you saw all those things here, But as 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: a guy in Seattle, as the head guy, it seems 58 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: like Mike is he's continuing to get better as a coach, 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: and he was already very good. So the future, certainly 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: for him and for the Steahawks, looks really bright. 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Now, I want to go back to the point you 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: made about defense, and when I watch this game, really, 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: when I watched the whole playoffs. I just kind of 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: kept coming back to this thought, like this defense back. 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: For so long in the NFL, there's been such a 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: focal point on the offense, the quarterbacks, the receivers, the 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: running backs, like they're the stars of the league. But 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: it seems to me and even the rules, the rules 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: have moved in the direction they're tilted towards the offense, 70 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: and we all hear the phrases like it's a passing league, 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: it's an offensive driven league, and so everything for a 72 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: long time, I would say, it felt like over the 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: past fifteen years has shifted towards offense. Offense, offense, mores points, 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are the frontmen, all those things. But over the 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: past couple of years, and it really to me was 76 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: clear in this postseason, it just seems like it's shifting 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: back towards defense. With Seattle leading the way there obviously 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: as the best defense in the league and the dominant 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: defensive performance that they had in the Super Bowl. But 80 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: I look at this. This is the regular season rankings 81 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: in terms of points allowed per defense in order, Seattle, Houston, Denver, 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: New England, Philly, all five playoff teams, top four teams 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: in the league, this year, when you look at the 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: championship round, Seattle, Denver, New England. Okay, those are three 85 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: of the top four teams in terms of overall defensive 86 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: points per game, and then the Rams were the other 87 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: one and they ranked tenth. So every team that was 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: in the championship round was the top ten defense in 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: terms of points allowed or better. And it just seems like, 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: given all the conversation round offense, these teams have come 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: in provide, created some really innovative defenses, and then they 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: just dominate and control the game. Even go back to 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: last year, Philly dominated the game in the Super Bowl 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. So are you do you agree with 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: my assessment here that defense is back and this is 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: a new era that we're seeing in the NFL. 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree that defense now it seems to be 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: dictating the terms. I don't think defense actually ever left, 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: but I do think that these great quarterbacks like Mahomes, 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: like Lamar, like Josh Allen, Joe Burrow puts so much 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: stress on defenses that they've had to come up with 102 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: ways to try and contain these guys and offenses in general, 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: and they've begun to catch up. And to me, it 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: starts with the pressure you can put on a quarterback. 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Every quarterback, every quarterback is affected by pressure, doesn't matter 106 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: how great you are. We've seen Mahomes affected by pressure 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: in certain names, Josh Allen. Any quarterback is affected by 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: constant pressure. And when you can get the kind of 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: pressure that the Seahawks got on Drake By that the 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Eagles got last year on Patrick Mahomes, they become me 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: or mortals. They no longer can take over the game. 112 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: They can't dominate it. Uh, there's no time for them 113 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: to dissect your defense. And so these a lot of 114 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: these brilliant defensive coaches, like a Mike McDonald have seemingly 115 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: come up with ways that make it very difficult for 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: you to keep them away from your quarterback. And if 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: your quarterback is getting hit all the time, you're probably 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 2: not gonna win the game. 119 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think that seeing the way that the 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: defense has defense has won the Super Bowl these past 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: couple of years, it just has like when you get 122 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: into that game, the defensive performance is what I actually 123 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: thought going to that game is winding down, I'm like, 124 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: are they just gonna make the defense the MVP of 125 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: this game? I really thought that might be the case, 126 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: and but the defense has controlled the game and that's 127 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: been the difference in the Super Bowl these last couple years. 128 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: And so how does this all relate to the race 129 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: as well? Of course, the Ravens are looking for a 130 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: new head coach this offseason for the first time in 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: eighteen years, and they could go offense, they could go defense. 132 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: There's good candidates out there, and they go with probably 133 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: the best defensive coach on the market in Jesse Minner, 134 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: who is working of course with LA and has been 135 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: proven wherever he's been to help rectify defenses. And when 136 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I look at the Ravens the past couple of years, 137 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: the defense has just not been up to the level 138 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing. The last time it was 139 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: great was in twenty three when Mike was here as 140 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. So they hired Jesse as as the 141 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: head coach. But he's also going to call the defensive players, 142 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: as he's said, and I really think that he's going 143 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: to be able to turn around this defense quickly in 144 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: a similar way to what Mike was able to do 145 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: in Seattle. And like I cautioned against the comparison too 146 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: much of like Mike and Jesse was saying they both 147 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: coached here when they were younger, and and all these things. 148 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: They both coached to the Michigan as a defensive coordinator. 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: Like I cautioned against trying to make them the same 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: person because they are independent, they opt differently, they're each 151 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: through a man, but the parallels between them are undeniable, absolutely, 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: And so I think that the hope here is that, 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: obviously that with Jesse's arrival, that he can help get 154 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: this defense playing at the level like we saw from 155 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Super Bowl and the season overall. 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, obviously Jesse is his own coach, but 157 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he would mind at all being compared 158 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: if he gets the same results as Mike did it 159 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: this year next year, he take that in a heartbeat. 160 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: And certainly Jesse's strength has been elevating defenses. He's done 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: it at Michigan, He's done it with the Chargers. So 162 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: it was certainly not surprised to hear him say at 163 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: his introductory press conference that he was going to call 164 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: the defensive plays. That's one of his strengths as a coach. 165 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons that he said why he's here, 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: that that's what got him here. So yeah, I think 167 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: next year you're going to be looking at a Ravens 168 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: team that plays differently defensively Jesse Mintter, and he's also 169 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: shown a knack for tweaking it. He's not just stuck 170 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: in this is my system. His system constantly evolves and 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: that's another thing that's so important in the NFL. You 172 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: have to be able to evolve because the game changes 173 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: so much. Sometimes the game changes from quarter to quarter. 174 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: And I think that he is a guy who is 175 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: really in tune with that. And the raven is not 176 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: only going to be different, but there's gonna be innovation. 177 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: It's going to change if need be. Kyle Hamilton, I 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: heard him being interviewed talking about how excited he is 179 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: to play for Jesse Mintter. Not that he didn't enjoy 180 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: playing with the Ravens before, but he already knows Jesse 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: has a plan for him. And so we saw young 182 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: players develop under Jesse. The Ravens have a lot of 183 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: young defensive players who are on the rise. I think 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: he's going to be really good and his staff is 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: going to be really good to try at getting the 186 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: most out of these young players. 187 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: Well, look the Chargers this year. They had the fifth 188 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: ranked defense in terms of yards allowed, they were ninth 189 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: in points allowed, and their defense, they leaned on their 190 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: defense to get them to the playoffs. They made it 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, only gave up sixteen points to the 192 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Patriots and Drake May, but they could do nothing on offense, 193 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: only score three points in that game. I mean, Adaffioway 194 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: had an excellent game in their playoff game against the Patriots, 195 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: And so the defense that he built in LA was 196 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: among the league's best. And I think that with the 197 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: talent that's here, with Kyle Hamilton being at the top 198 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: of that list, with Roquan Smith, with a lot of 199 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: talented pieces here, Nate Wigans and Malchi Starks, like high 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: high capitol players from a draft pickstandpoint caliber players, pro bowlers, 201 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: I just think that he's going to be able to 202 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: elevate this defense. And there's a school thought as the 203 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Ravens went through this coaching process, like if you can 204 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: get this defense playing at a high level, well and 205 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: then you and like Lamar on the offense are going 206 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: to continue to cook because he's one of the best 207 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: players in football. And so get the defense back to 208 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: where it's been and then allow Lamar on the offense 209 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: to go to work. And I think that there's merit 210 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: to that idea. I think that that's probably like a 211 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: little too simplistic of looking at it that way, but 212 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: I think that like the thought has merit. And so 213 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: with Jesse and report of the Anthony Weaver coaching up 214 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the defense and getting a bright offensive line on the 215 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: offensive side in Decklan Doyle, I just think that you're 216 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: going to be able to hit the ground running. I 217 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: think next year with this unit. 218 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: Right, it's going to be interesting to see this off 219 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: season with free agency and then the draft the type 220 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: of defensive players to the Ravens bring in that fit 221 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: Jesse and as you said, Anthony Weaver poorly going to 222 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: be the defensive coordinator. Their vision and the entire staff 223 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: and the front off is their vision of the kind 224 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: of defensive players they're looking for. I think speed is 225 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: going to be, you know, one of the things trades 226 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: for sure, and versatility that seems to be the trend 227 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: two more and more in the NFL. Positionless defense get 228 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: players who can play two or three spots that the 229 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: quarterback never knows where they're gonna line up, never knows 230 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: where the blitz is gonna come from. We saw Drake 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: May in that game. There were many times where not 232 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: only did the Seahawks blitz, but they got someone completely 233 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: unblocked and it was coming from a direction that May 234 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: didn't anticipate. And that's the worst nightmare for a quarterback, 235 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: to have a guy in his face right away that 236 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: he wasn't expecting. So it'll be interesting to see what 237 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: happens with the Ravens past rush next year. They didn't 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: get to the quarterback enough last year didn't affect the quarterback. 239 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Hopefully you can get there with just four But no 240 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: matter how they do it, in the different ways the 241 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: Ravens do it, I'm really looking forward to seeing the 242 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: changes because it is going to be different. 243 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that these last two Super Bowls. We 244 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: were saying this kind of similar last year coming out 245 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: of the Eagle Super Bowl. Is this the year where 246 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: teams just invest in the defensive front because their defensive 247 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: front dominated that game? And I think you can make 248 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: the same argument this time around. Do teams invest in 249 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: the defensive front? With the Ravens of course being part 250 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: of the conversation there and I think that, like the draft, 251 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: free agency, I just think that they're gonna they're gonna 252 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: want to find guys that affect the quarterback. I'm with you. 253 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: I just think that, like, that's where where do they 254 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: need to improve on defense? At a simplistic level, I 255 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: think that's it. I think finding guys that can get 256 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: after the quarterback, disrupt the timing, disrupt the flow of 257 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: the game, and if they're able to find those players, 258 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: then they're gonna be a really good defense. And is 259 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: that trade? Is that free agency? Is that the draft? 260 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: I think all of the above. Probably the Ravens are 261 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: looking at how to improve this team. But yeah, I 262 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: think that that's probably the area that I'm like, if 263 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm building out the blueprint for the Ravens this offseason, 264 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: it seems like investing in the pass rush and finding 265 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: guys that can get off to the quarterback is it's 266 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: really going to be a focal point, right, no question. 267 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 2: I Mean, you know, John Harball winning his coach in 268 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: franchise history, we know what he did, but this is 269 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: the first reset at head coach in almost two decades, 270 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: so it is really going to be fascinating to see 271 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: what that entails. And we won't see all of it 272 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: in jesse Minner's first year, but we will see certainly 273 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: some of it. And the Ravens goal is the same 274 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: with Jesse as it was with coach Harball to win 275 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Jesse Minner knows that the culture here, 276 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: the talent here demands that and he's not shying away 277 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: from that at all. So he has a lot of 278 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: talent to work with. But also this offseason they want 279 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: to bring in different talent and really attack things more 280 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: in his vision. And we're going to see that with 281 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: the personnel moves they make. But bringing it all together 282 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: and how Jesse goes about the whole thing, you know, 283 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: the off season program leading into OTA's you know, leading 284 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: into training camp, It's really going to be fun to 285 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: watch how it all comes together. 286 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Totally agree. Now, the other point on the Super Bowl 287 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: of just the weekend overall that I want to mention 288 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: it goes back to NFL Honors last Thursday night. Haven't 289 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: talked about this yet, but they announce thee incoming class 290 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty six Pro Football Hall of Fame. 291 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Marshall Yonda, Terrell Suggs both left out again. This was 292 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: their second year of eligibility. They were both finalists for 293 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: the second year, but neither of them are getting their 294 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: gold jacket this year. I was surprised. I thought at 295 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: least one of them was going to get in, and 296 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: I believe they have the credentials to get in. Were 297 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: you also surprised to see them not make it. 298 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I view them both as Hall of famers. I 299 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: thought that this year at least one would get in, 300 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: and I still think they both are going to get 301 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: in because I believe they are Hall of Famers. But 302 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: it is really, really tough to get in. That's why 303 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: guys are so emotional when they do, and we've seen 304 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: a lot of great players who had to wait. So yes, 305 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: I do believe it's going to happen for them. It 306 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: would have been nice for it to happen for both 307 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: of them, or at least one this year. But yeah, again, 308 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: when you look at the names every year of Okay, 309 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: who's going to be eligible for the first time next year, 310 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: it really is daunting when you look at some of 311 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: the quality of players that keep coming over and over 312 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: year after year. But I think eventually it's going to 313 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: happen for Terrell Suggs and for Marshall Yana. Both of 314 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: them to me were the best player dominant players for 315 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: enough years. Impact players have all the credential, super Bowl rings, 316 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: long careers, respect among their peers, respect them on the media. 317 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: It's going to happen for them. But in life sometimes 318 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: you have to wait a little longer for the things 319 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: that are most precious. 320 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: The class that did get in Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, 321 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: odamnitary running back Roger Craig, and linebacker Luke Keigley. So 322 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: that's your class right there. According to reports, Suggs and Yonda, 323 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: we're all part of the final seven seven Modern Era finalists, 324 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: meaning they'd automatically be finalists for the Class of twenty 325 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven, and they reportedly got more votes than Eli Manning, 326 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Tory Holt, Reggie, Wayne, Frank Gore, Charles Woodson, Jason Witten 327 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: and others. Now, the deliberations that happened inside that room 328 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: have been very much a point of conversation over the 329 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: past ten days with the Bill Belichick news of him 330 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: not getting inducted, a lot of strong feelings on that front, 331 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: and so what exactly what happens in that room is 332 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: a little bit up in the air, and so I 333 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: find it hard to believe everything that you hear, just 334 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: because there's different version of events that we've seen over 335 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: the past week plus, especially in relation to Bill Belichick. 336 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I just think that, like you 337 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: look at the credentials of Terrell Suggs and Marshall Yanda, 338 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: offensive line is a little tougher to assess stats, like 339 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: you just don't have the stats. But Yonda has the 340 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, he has All Pros, he was on the 341 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: All Decade Team. Those are all things that the NFL 342 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: weighs the NFL voters way heavily when it comes to 343 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Suggs, he's top ten in sacks, he 344 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: won two Super Bowls, he was Defensive Player of the Year, 345 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: he was Defensive Rookie of the Year. Like the he 346 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: has the stats, the team's success, the persona longevity like 347 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: that one is just harder for me to kind of 348 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: grapple with that. Like again, he was Defensive Player of 349 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the Year one year, And to me, when you're looking 350 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: at Hall of Fame, one of the key criteria and 351 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: this is like more of the eye tests than anything else, 352 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: Like was he ever the best at his position. Was 353 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: he ever the best guy on the field. The answer 354 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: is yes. Suggs was a Defensive Player of the Year 355 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, and then he was great throughout his 356 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: entire career, and so he passed the eye test. And 357 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: then like the persona too, I think the persona carries 358 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: some element of whether anybody would admit that. That's not 359 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: like a voting criteria, but I think that like that 360 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: seeps into your mind. He certainly delivered on the showmanship 361 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: aspect of the NFL, and so like seeing him not 362 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: get in just it surprises me, especially on the second 363 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: go round. If you don't get in on the first 364 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: and you're not a first ballot of Hall of Famer, okay, 365 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: but not getting in on the second go round, I 366 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: start to say, oh, he's in. Is going to get 367 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: in right? Like I think he is. I'm with you, 368 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: he is a Hall of Famer. Both those guys are 369 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, But the fact that they didn't get 370 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: in two years in a row gives me a little 371 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: concern about when that's gonna. 372 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: Happen, right, I mean, I think Suggs has the advantage, 373 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: as you said, with the stats. The longer he goes 374 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: if it, hopefully it will end next year that he 375 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: will get in. But the longer he goes without getting in, 376 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: to me, the more weird is going to. Look. When 377 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 2: you talk about somebody, you know, top ten at all 378 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: time in sacks, two Super Bowl rings, you look at 379 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: the linked of his career, the numbers, they're all there, 380 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: It's like, why isn't this guy in? Right Yonder, it 381 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: could be a little harder because that's more of a 382 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: more of a subjective thing about, Okay, how dominant alignment 383 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: was he. But when you talk to peers about both 384 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: of those guys, there's no doubt in their minds that 385 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: these guys are Hall of famers. I mean, when you 386 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: hear people talk about Marshall Yonder, what it was like 387 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: to go against him, When you talk to his former teammates, 388 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: and then obviously Terrell Suggs. You talk to quarterbacks, I mean, 389 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: you know, obviously Ben Roethlisberg, he had a vote, as 390 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: with a lot of quarterbacks. 391 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Any Tom Brady probably will see exactly. 392 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: So I do believe that, yes, they will both get in, 393 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll see at least one of them get 394 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: in next year. 395 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, 396 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: we'll dive into the coaching carousel or the conversation that 397 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: continues on that front, and we'll be right back. You're 398 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: listening to the lash Park cast. 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So the coaching process is continuing 408 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: for the Ravens as Jesse Minter is building out his staff. 409 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: Have not made official updates yet. The organization the team 410 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: has not made official updates yet. In terms of the 411 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: entire coaching staff, we have announced Declan Doyle as the 412 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, as well as a handful of other assistant 413 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: coaches I already mentioned. There's reports that Anthony Weaver, who 414 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: has joined as a defensive coordinator, as well as a 415 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: number of other coaches. Over the weekend, there were reports 416 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: of the Ravens hired a quarterbacks coach, obviously a really 417 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: important position, Israel Wolf. Fork had previously been with the 418 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Also reportedly hired a tight ends coach, Zach Grossi, 419 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: a passing game coordinator Marcus Brady, and Patrick Kramer as 420 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: an offensive assistant. He had previously been with the Atlanta Falcons, 421 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: So filling out that coaching staff as that process continues. 422 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Still at this point, no reports even for on the 423 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: special team side. Have not heard anything as a special 424 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: teams coordinator, so not sure where that stands exactly. But 425 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I would think that this coaching I would think this 426 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: coaching staff is really finalized by the end of the week, 427 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: if not sooner. The heavy lifting I think has largely 428 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: been done offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and mintor is filling 429 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: out the remainder of the staff. But what's your take 430 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: on some of the moves over the weekend that have 431 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: been reported. 432 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: Yes, well, the coach mentor has been very busy since 433 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: getting the job, and yeah, he's really tapped into a 434 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: lot of different guys and a lot of different backgrounds, 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: some people that he's worked with before, some people from 436 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: the NFL ranks, some people from the college ranks. I 437 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: think it's a very nice blend of reported yep, and 438 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: also ones that have already well known for surecoming. It's 439 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: a nice blend. I think the players will enjoy working 440 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: with this staff and vice versus. So again, one of 441 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: the many changes we're seeing. I mean we see, you know, 442 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: changes of staff every year, but not this dramatic of 443 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: a change starting at the top with the head coach 444 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: and bringing in so many new coaches and then you 445 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: know guys like you know, Anthony Weaver has reported the coordinator, 446 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: who've been here before, just like coach Mintor has been 447 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: here before. I think it's a very very nice blend. 448 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I'm excited to see how it 449 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: all comes together, and I know the players are too. 450 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: I Mean, this is it's new for us, but it's 451 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: definitely new for them. I mean when they walk come 452 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: back into the building, so many players are going to 453 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: have a different, different position, position coach yep, everyone's going 454 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: to have a new head coach. 455 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 456 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: There's going to be new voices at the front of 457 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: the room, and obviously as a coach, what you want 458 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: to do is try and get the players respond as 459 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: best they can, get the most out of the players 460 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: that you're talking to every day, you know. 461 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: The defensive side, there is some consistency in the fact 462 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: that Jesse Mitcher was here previously, not really with any 463 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: of the guys who are who are still here, but 464 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: at least has grown up in the system. Anthony Weaver 465 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: again as a reporter defensive coordinator, knows plenty of guys 466 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: on the team. He was here. More recently, Tyler Santucci 467 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: going to coach the linebackers. He's a holdover from the 468 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 1: previous staff, so there are some familiar voices there. The 469 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: offensive side, it's it's totally new. I mean, it's totally new. 470 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: Todd Munkin obviously is in Cleveland. He's brought a handful 471 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: of people with him, including Travis Switzer as his offensive coordinator. 472 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of shake up on the 473 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: offensive side, and so it's a new system. It's new 474 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: voices just across the board. And that's where I'm really 475 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: curious to see. It's just like, how all of that 476 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: how quickly that unit gets up to speed with Deklan 477 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: Doyle as the offensive coordinator, Dwayne Lefford coming in as 478 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach with a really established track record 479 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot of success in Atlanta, and then new new 480 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. That was a question I think a lot 481 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: of people had, is is t Martin backs quarterbacks coach 482 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: ultimately decide to reportedly go a different direction and and 483 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: bring in Israel Wolffork And so that's a big change there. 484 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: Obviously quarterbacks coach is the right hand man for Lamar 485 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: and you know in game and and throughout the week. 486 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: So that's a big, a big transition. But I think that, 487 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: like I'm excited about the offensive coaches the Ravens have 488 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: reportedly brought in, but that's just all. It's all a change, 489 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: And I'll be curious to see once they get on 490 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: the field for OTAs and and start putting the system 491 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: into place, what that system is going to look like, 492 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: how quickly they can find ways to use all the 493 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: different pieces that exist. Because like this offense, I think 494 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: everybody would agree this should be one of the better 495 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: offenses in football, Like this should be a top ten offense, 496 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: if not better. Than that two years ago. Is the 497 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: best offensive offensive football and one of the best offenses 498 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: the NFL has ever seen. So like, the bar is 499 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: high for this group, and a lot of those same 500 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: pieces are back, and it's going to be the job 501 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: of mintor at the top by and Doyle and the 502 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: rest of the staff to really figure out how to 503 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: maximize Lamar and all the players on this offense. 504 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: No question, I mean, Declan Doyle, He's gonna have a 505 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 2: lot of talent to work with, and we all know 506 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: it starts with Lamar, and Lamar to me, has responded 507 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: well to changes coaching changes in the past on the 508 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: offensive side. You know, when the switch was made to 509 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: Greg Roman, Lamar has won of MVP. Switch was made 510 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: to Todd Monkin, Lamar has one MVP. So yeah, I mean, 511 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: I think that the players will look at this as 512 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: a challenge and it obviously is a reboot, and I 513 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: think it brings excitement. It brings natural excitement. What will 514 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: Deklan Doyle bring. I mean, we know tendencies and we 515 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: can make educated guesses, but he's working with a different team, 516 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: a different group of players, and you know, great coaches 517 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: played to their players' strengths. So any offensive coordinator would 518 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: love to have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson. He has 519 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: so many strengths He's gonna try and play to them. 520 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: And Lamar is gonna have his own suggestions and feelings 521 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: about what should happen. And Derek Henvy and Zay Flowers 522 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: and all the talented players on the Ravens offense. So yes, 523 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: their offense did not play up to its capabilities last year. 524 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: We know Lamar was banged up a lot, that was 525 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: part of it, but the offense never found its groove 526 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: week in and week out the way it did in 527 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. So that is what they're looking for, 528 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: and beyond that, if there's another level they can get to. 529 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: Lamar is still a young player, Derek Henry's showing no 530 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: sign is slowing down, Zay Flowers getting better every year. 531 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, it is very exciting because of the talent 532 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: that the Ravens have. So I know the coaches who 533 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: are coming in here on that side of the ball can't 534 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: wait to work with these guys. 535 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, all of the process of seeing mentor build out 536 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: the staff is exciting and I think that it gets 537 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: me fired up about what he's able to do. He 538 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: laid out a vision at that opening press conference of 539 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: wanting to build a team that has a connective tissue 540 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: but also wants to be innovative, and I see that 541 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: in these reported hires, and it feels like there's just 542 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: going to be this group of coaches that come in 543 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: here and are really looking for ways to take this 544 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: group to the next level. So obviously that's going to 545 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: be the charge and the challenge in front of them. 546 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: But I think on paper, it certainly is exciting and 547 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: it looks good. So we'll continue to provide updates on 548 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: that front as the Ravens final as those moves over 549 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: the course of this week, so stay tuned for more 550 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: to come on that. As always, you can email us 551 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: at the lounge at ravenst NFL dot net. Always love 552 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: to getting those emails. I want to read a couple 553 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: of those this week. Thank you so much for listening. 554 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: We will be back with you again so