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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to I Choose Me, a podcast about the choices

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Speaker 2: we make to reinvent and reimagine ourselves for each stage

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Speaker 2: of life. Sally Pressman, the actress so many of you

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Speaker 2: know as Roxy LeBlanc from Army Wives, is choosing herself

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Speaker 2: right in the middle of real life in a marriage

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Speaker 2: to a fellow actor, in the juggling of friendships during

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Speaker 2: a packed season, and in the daily navigation of parenting

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Speaker 2: in an era of NonStop social media and technology. She's

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Speaker 2: doing the work in real time, not waiting for things

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Speaker 2: to slow down. For six seasons, Sally portrayed a woman

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Speaker 2: viewers connected to someone navigating love, marriage, and the emotional

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Speaker 2: weight of military life. Roxy LeBlanc felt real because she

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Speaker 2: was real, and Sally carried that responsibility with care to

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Speaker 2: Along with acting, she has stepped into a new chapter

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Speaker 2: as a beauty influencer and the face of True Botanicals

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Speaker 2: to help women choose themselves with self care. Please welcome Sally. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you are the face of a brand new campaign

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Speaker 2: for True Botanicals. Yes, how exciting is that for you?

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Speaker 3: It was crazy? It was so exciting and I walked

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Speaker 3: into it was at Nordstrum and I walked into Nordstrum

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Speaker 3: and you know, I was like, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it's going to be up. Where am I going to

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Speaker 3: see it? And it was like right there, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, it's crazy. I mean, it's just you know,

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Speaker 3: I've been doing acting forever and so you're used to seeing,

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Speaker 3: you know, a billboarder, like a poster for that. But

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Speaker 3: like you walk into a department store, into you know,

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Speaker 3: the skincare area and there's your face like with a

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Speaker 3: brand that you love, and it was like surreal, very surreal.

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Speaker 2: I know, the feeling. It's like a whole different. It's

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Speaker 2: very vulnerable because it's just you and your skin yes

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Speaker 2: on a giant post.

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Speaker 3: They really don't like mudge it at all, Like they

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Speaker 3: do not help a woman out, but they want it

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Speaker 3: to look real, real, and they want and they're like,

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Speaker 3: they want it to look natural so that the product

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Speaker 3: shows that it does something. And if it's like overtouched,

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Speaker 3: then it doesn't look like that I've seen yours. Yours

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Speaker 3: are stunning as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: I can recall a time though, when I did a

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Speaker 2: magazine not that long ago, and I looked at it

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Speaker 2: and I thought, who is that person?

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Speaker 1: They changed me so much? Really, I was so upset.

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Speaker 3: Did they think they were doing it in a positive way?

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Speaker 3: Did they want to like change it positively?

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Speaker 1: I guess so. I guess there was a lot wrong

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Speaker 1: with me.

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Speaker 3: There is nothing wrong with you, how rude. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing worse when you get overtouched by someone and

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Speaker 2: then it's too late you they've already gone to print

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Speaker 2: or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And or you didn't have like photo approval or something

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Speaker 3: like it just happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I love it that you're promoting a

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Speaker 2: clean beauty product.

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Speaker 3: Yes, are you big on that too? I am me too.

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Speaker 2: I want to go through my house and just like

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Speaker 2: ditch everything that's not clean.

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Speaker 3: I've done a lot of that, And you have to

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Speaker 3: do a lot of googling like is this brand clean?

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Speaker 3: And I had a lot of makeup from like twenty

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Speaker 3: years ago that I still have too in the track.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that is on my to do list

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Speaker 2: right now, go through my I have this thing.

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Speaker 3: If you want, I'll just go right over after this

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Speaker 3: because I've done all of the googling and just go

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Speaker 3: I need you I need you stuff. But I think

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Speaker 3: it's so important, especially as you get older, to make

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Speaker 3: sure that you know what the ingredients are, and especially like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I have a lot of friends who have

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Speaker 3: been diagnosed with breast cancer and my mom's had skin

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Speaker 3: cancer a ton of times, and I'm like, those things

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Speaker 3: are not unrelated, you know, so the most like whatever

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Speaker 3: we can do to kind of clean up what we're

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Speaker 3: putting on our face and.

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Speaker 2: Because our skin is absorbing everything we put on it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's our largest organ.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct? You are correct?

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Speaker 1: You are correct, that's a big organ.

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Speaker 3: It's huge.

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Speaker 1: I'm a walking organ.

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Speaker 3: We are we are walking organs.

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Speaker 1: Never really thought of that.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you said your mom's battles can cancer. Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: has that been for you? Like what do you do

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Speaker 2: to ensure that you are not following in her footsteps?

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Speaker 3: Well, so this is like the interesting thing about generations, right.

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Speaker 3: My mom was you know my mom, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: or listen to this and be like, what are you doing? Rude?

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Speaker 3: But she was growing up in the seventies and she

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Speaker 3: would sit outside with those like aluminum things like the reflectors,

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Speaker 3: the reflector looks like or like sit under a heat

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Speaker 3: lamp with the or like some light I had, like

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Speaker 3: some tanning light with the reflector and no sunscreen, no

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Speaker 3: SPM that was even.

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Speaker 1: In they put baby oil on the They.

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Speaker 3: Literally put an attractor, and so I think it's like,

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Speaker 3: let's start with I'm not doing any of those things.

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Speaker 2: So that's a plot you never like or like sun

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Speaker 2: got us in your teens.

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Speaker 4: I liked.

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Speaker 3: I will say I'm guilty of like I like to

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Speaker 3: get that base tam, which was all of us lying

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Speaker 3: to ourselves, just like exposing ourselves to like UV and UVB.

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Speaker 3: But I rarely burned and I definitely was never using

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Speaker 3: baby oil. So now as I've gotten older, it's SPF

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Speaker 3: every day, no matter what under the makeup, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it has to be clean and making sure it's good.

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Speaker 3: But at least thirty every day.

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Speaker 2: At least thirty Yes, good advice. I put on like

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Speaker 2: sixty seven as high as I can get it. But

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Speaker 2: they say at a certain point it doesn't matter the number.

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Speaker 2: You can only go so high.

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Speaker 3: They do say that, but like go with your savings,

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Speaker 3: feel better. I totally understand.

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Speaker 1: I'm walking around like very rare.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking around like white glue on my face.

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Speaker 3: Perfect me, perfect, That's that's exactly the amount of SPF

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Speaker 3: you should have, I think.

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Speaker 2: So do you get your skin checked annually?

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Speaker 3: Yes, all the time, and obviously all the other cancers.

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Speaker 3: But having a dermatologist who's just checking and doing you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they know, you know, they can like look

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Speaker 3: at something like I'm like, what is this? What is this?

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Speaker 3: Is this cancer? Is? Is this cancerus? Like? What are

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Speaker 3: these things? And she's like no, no, but are you, like,

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Speaker 3: have you developed the sun spots? Like I feel like

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Speaker 3: I've got some of the sun spots.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I have.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've done a lot of like work to get

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Speaker 2: rid of sun spots.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about it. What have you done?

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Speaker 1: Exfoliation?

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Speaker 2: I tried hydrocanonin that gave me nightmares.

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Speaker 3: Never heard of it. Oh you said, like a pill.

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Speaker 3: It's a topical, okay, topical and the topical gave you nightmares.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's soaked into my skin and gave me terrible

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Speaker 2: nightmares every night.

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Speaker 1: So I stopped using.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but just you know, probably a couple of

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Speaker 2: times a week I'll exfoliate, okay, and you know, just

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Speaker 2: using great products to fade anything. But I but I

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Speaker 2: do have age spots, Like I don't know, my sun

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Speaker 2: spots are kind of gone now. I have like age

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Speaker 3: Them covered beautifulness.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh my try.

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Speaker 1: We all do what we can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is it's a it's a you know,

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Speaker 2: it's an uphill battle.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're in your early mid forties.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly where I like it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's exactly the way to do.

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Speaker 2: That is a good time of life, is it?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 3: See, this is what I always say, is like, and

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Speaker 3: I'll say this to you know, people I know who

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Speaker 3: and she is putting on makeup and skincare and she

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Speaker 3: was talking to me about her favorite skincare and she's like, well,

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Speaker 3: I love the contour from say and I was like,

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Speaker 3: why are you contouring absolutely perfect twelve year old face?

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Speaker 1: What has happened?

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Speaker 3: It's crazy? But going back to what you were saying,

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Speaker 3: doing this thing? And why do I have these things?

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Speaker 3: And I need to fix this and I need to

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Speaker 3: do this and I need to cover this. But like

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, I had it made. What

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Speaker 2: You know, what's your sort of story around aging gracefully?

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Speaker 3: My story around is aging gracefully is I did not

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Speaker 3: believe in injectibles, Like really until right now, I still

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Speaker 3: have not done it.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: Do you just laugh? Like I hope everyone saw that

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Speaker 3: or her you didn't, No one heard it, but like

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Speaker 3: Like we're on camera all the time, and our appearance

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Speaker 3: really matters, and our business really does not applaud women

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Speaker 3: do that and see, you know what happens. And as

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Speaker 3: you said, like find good products and find good skincare

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Speaker 3: and you know, go all clean and try to eat

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Speaker 3: well and do all of those things. And then now

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Speaker 3: I'm at a point where I'm like, Okay, so I

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Speaker 3: made it to this age, are we all cool? I'm

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Speaker 3: going to start doing it, you know? But I think

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Speaker 3: that so I see so much, especially like on social media,

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Speaker 2: Like, it's that all control? Do you think that's just la?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, I don't I think that, and please

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Speaker 3: don't come for me if this is wrong, please, But

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Speaker 3: I think that like coastal cities kind of define the

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Speaker 3: trend and then everyone else fills in and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: And now since they see it all, you know, immediately

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Speaker 2: on social media everywhere, it's getting to those messages are

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Speaker 2: getting to them instantly.

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Speaker 3: That that's what our face has to look like, right,

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Speaker 3: And I think because you so easily can do it,

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Speaker 3: they're like, well, what's stopping me other than the money? Right,

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Speaker 3: But like, what is stopping me from having the exact

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Speaker 3: same face as Kim Kardashian or who else? You know?

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Speaker 3: And I always kind of liked my face. I mean

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Speaker 3: I could only just have like this be up higher,

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Speaker 3: or like if I didn't have my dad's heavy brow,

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Speaker 2: I think that would be so interesting to see that perception.

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Speaker 4: You want to get it right, because I felt people

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Speaker 3: I felt none at the beginning because I was brand new, right,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people saw themselves in your character. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What made you choose to leave at six years

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Speaker 3: Yes, I got that job when I was twenty for

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, yes, you do know it's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your first thing you did after Army?

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Speaker 3: I did a pilot called Jojo and Jane, and I

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Speaker 3: shot it nine months pregnant, Okay, right after You're so tiny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like I was working and sitting with like

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Speaker 3: I mean I was nine months pregnant and I want yeah,

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Speaker 3: Is there a way we can It's I understand. It's

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Speaker 1: Would have made me just eat more donuts.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure there was part of me that

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Speaker 2: Pregnant, like yeah, get off my bag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then another part that was like you're you're

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Speaker 3: not You're not wrong. I'll hold off, but save that

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Speaker 2: You love what you do. You love being an actress.

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Speaker 2: That really shows, Yeah, I do. Being passionate about what

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Speaker 2: In the time I've been acting, it has built me

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Speaker 2: How have you handled the highs and the lows of

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Speaker 3: You know what's so funny about all of this is

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Speaker 3: I'm like, when do we get to the part where

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Speaker 3: and that feels great. The highs are like, oh, you

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Speaker 3: you know, my representatives were like, they loved you. They're

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Speaker 1: It feels good.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I think I've gotten a little bit

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Speaker 3: Okay, I know, I know, I know it's a.

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Speaker 1: Terrible way to live.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they do say it all the time, I know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I also feel like, yes, they say we'll

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Speaker 3: But isn't it so much worse if they don't say

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Speaker 1: Or that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You don't get feedback noose days. People are just onto

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Speaker 3: Or like what if it's like, you know, you're taping

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Speaker 3: The lows are so bad. The lows are so bad.

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Speaker 3: how can I not take it personally? You know what

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Speaker 2: You know, have you reached have you had that experience?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, And there have

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Speaker 3: Wives when I was twenty four, I'm such a better

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Speaker 3: Like I'm also.

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Speaker 1: You have more depth.

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Speaker 2: A's just a human being, and it's so much easier

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Speaker 3: Now, yes, I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever just want to run for the hills

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Speaker 3: But did you? And I'm gonna now just start out

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Speaker 3: And also like when I had that moment, because I

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Speaker 3: my god. And then you know, I hear my kids

440
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: being like six seven six slow until he was six seven.

441
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: And at that point, you've created a life for yourself

442
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: and you are now responsible for a being. And while

443
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: when he was that age, I had had my second

444
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 3: So now you're sending your kids to school, you're responsible

445
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: for your kids, and like what you're supposed to start

446
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: over with two children? Like that was a skill I

447
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: had established, Like that was a life I had created

448
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 3: for myself where I could pay for our lives. You know,

449
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: then I was going to I was going to say, no,

450
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm not going to take whatever money does possibly come

451
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: in from that, and I'm going to do this other thing.

452
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: But I had to start from zero, and I had

453
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: to start from scratch.

454
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: Was that a pivot that so you kind of made

455
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: a pivot?

456
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: I did? That was later? That was I feel like

457
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: the pivot that I made was very recently, like it

458
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: was only like three years ago. Really tell me about

459
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: your pivot. Yeah, did you? Did you pivot in that

460
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: way too?

461
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: Yep?

462
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'll just I need to start a podcast

463
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: so I can just have you as a guest and

464
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: ask you all the same questions. That's really what needs

465
00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: to happen. So the pivot came from the work going away,

466
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: the audition's going away, and the lack of control and

467
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: the lack of control. It's so hard when you're like,

468
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 3: I'm very Type A. Are you Type A?

469
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what I am. I definitely, I don't

470
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: know honestly.

471
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: Then you're not Type A. Let me just put it

472
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: right out.

473
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: I think I had Type A tendency something, But you

474
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: have type as chill. As I've gotten older, Type A

475
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: people are, there's I have no chill. There's no chill

476
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: happening anywhere at all at any time.

477
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, you lose control. And I already had a

478
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 3: little bit of a platform because of the show and

479
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 3: because of other work that I'd done and brands were

480
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: already sending me things like that was already normal, you know,

481
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: like they knew about it. I didn't really know about it.

482
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, And then I felt a responsibility

483
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: to those brands to talk about it on my social

484
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: media because I was like, they're giving me something like

485
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: this is this is nice, and I do the thing

486
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: where I then care about pay it forward exactly. And

487
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't until I don't even know what what the

488
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: what the thing was, but something clicked where it was like, wait,

489
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: you can make money doing this, Like it's not just

490
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: like getting free products, but like you can make money

491
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: doing this. And then I was like, okay, I need

492
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: to figure out how to make money. Like if I

493
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: can supplement you know, whatever acting comes in with this,

494
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: then it's already it's already started. Like it's not like

495
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: I had an account that had like zero followers, Like

496
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: I already had something going. So I had to like

497
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: do the research and figure it out and figure out

498
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 3: what my voice was on social media, what I wanted

499
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: my voice to be, what my husband and parents would

500
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: like allow me to do, like as people who were

501
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: involved in my life and be like that's super cringe.

502
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: You cannot be like that.

503
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: So your kids probably have an opinion too, they do.

504
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: But they don't watch it, you know what I mean,

505
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: Like they don't care. They really don't care. Your kids

506
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: care because your kids are older.

507
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: Yes, my kids care.

508
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, now they like you know mom, that was no.

509
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: I run everything by them. And you know I said,

510
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: Lola is my vice president and my company basically my

511
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: entire brand. So I don't I confer with them because

512
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: I really do trust their fresh perspectives and you know,

513
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: I know that they would never lead me astray.

514
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: I love that. That's amazing. Like again, it needs to

515
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: be like mentioned and appreciated that your relationship with your

516
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 3: daughters is as good as it is. Like, that's crazy,

517
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: And you need to write a how to. It can

518
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: be short or it can be long. We will all

519
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: read it on how to do that is my daughter

520
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: is seven. It's going to be a bumpy road.

521
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: And here's the secret.

522
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me.

523
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: Stop saying it's going to be a bumpy road.

524
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it, yep, Okay, just.

525
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Take it day by day and enjoy enjoy the good things. Yeah,

526
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: the moments when it's great and the moments when it's bad,

527
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: just you know, it is what it is. This is

528
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: her age, this is her brain development. There's absolutely nothing

529
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: to do with me, my validity as a parent. Yeah, yeah,

530
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: it's nothing. It's got nothing to do with you. It's

531
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: just her development and she will get through it. But

532
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: I really did find that a lot of people would say, oh, good.

533
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: Luck, you got three kids, three girls. It's going to

534
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: be you know, a lot of hormones all the time.

535
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: It's going to be a nightmare, drama. And I just

536
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: refuse to accept that.

537
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: And I just really changed the narrative within my own

538
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: head and said, this is going to be amazing. These

539
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: girls are you know, everything to me, and I just want.

540
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: To do right by them. And I just you know,

541
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: that's it.

542
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Stop saying, stop buying into everybody else's story that it's

543
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: going to be hard.

544
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: Okay, that's easy. If that's the step that's easy to do,

545
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: it really is. Yeah, And I'm just not going to

546
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: take my actual story from like my life as to

547
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: how I was. I'm not going to put that on her.

548
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: Really really important and it's so easy to do.

549
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the only mother daughter experience that I have.

550
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: Is my own and I was a freaking nightmare me too.

551
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Like I think I entered the teens before I actually

552
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: was a teenager. Like my mom was like, this is

553
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: this is early She's an early, early, early developer. Yeah,

554
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: I was very precocious in my bitchiness.

555
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Sure, well that's a skill, and that probably took you

556
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: to you know, being an actress.

557
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Probably probably. It definitely was feeding the drama for sure. Yeah,

558
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: there was no question.

559
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, like you, we think in our minds,

560
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: oh god, I'm destined to experience what my.

561
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Mom experienced, right me for sure?

562
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: Karma?

563
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Right, you think karma, and it does come, it does

564
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: come up here and there.

565
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

566
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to like it doesn't have to be

567
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: passed down to your your children.

568
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: No.

569
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: And also, my daughter has half of my husband's jeans,

570
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: and he's very nice, So there is a chance that

571
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: that just takes over. And he didn't give anyone any

572
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: trouble as he was growing up, so that it could

573
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: be just that.

574
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: It could be because they're not one hundred percent no,

575
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: thank god God, noah, exactly, I mean inevitably they will

576
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: be in therapy.

577
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, because of us.

578
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And don't you say that all the time. I'm like,

579
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: add it to my therapy bill. Just just add it

580
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: to the bill. I it's already started. Just it's fine.

581
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of drama. Okay, let's talk about toxic mom groups.

582
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, this.

583
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: Is something that's been in the news lately very much.

584
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: People are talking about it. Yes, Ashley Tisdale is talking

585
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: about Meghan Trainer.

586
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: Yep, they're in the same mom group. That's the same group. Really, yes,

587
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: So that, like, I love that I can fill you

588
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: in on this.

589
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Fill me.

590
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying that Ashley and Meghan trainor same group. Okay

591
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: with this, It's so funny that we're talking about this

592
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: with Hillary Duff and Mandy Moore and it was Ashley

593
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: Tisdale like that came out. I think it was in

594
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: the cut with this article about her toxic mom group.

595
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: But the crazy thing is that mom group is so

596
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: high profile and they were so public and there were

597
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: so many posts about it that it's not like me

598
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: coming out with my mom group. It's like, we know

599
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 3: who your mom group is. Like when you say like, oh,

600
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: toxic moms, like we know who all the other moms are.

601
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I didn't even realize they were all

602
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: in the same mom Yes, so are they talking about

603
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: one another?

604
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: Yes?

605
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: Yes, it's so crazy, it's so crazy.

606
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: And so then.

607
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: So then I I kind of dabbled in that topic

608
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: on social media and the number of women who commented

609
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: back and were like, this is a huge thing. Oh

610
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: my god, the toxic moms like and not just in

611
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: LA but all over And I mean, I've had my

612
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: experience with it. Have you? Did you have your experience

613
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: with it? I I protected myself from it, I really

614
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: but you felt it or you saw it.

615
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: I knew it was it was going to happen if

616
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: I did join those mom groups and I just never did.

617
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't join. No, did you have but you had

618
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: mom friends A couple very you like, were like very

619
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: select carry picked. Yes, yes, yes, And I think like

620
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: the difference, let's say, between your first kid and the

621
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: way that you choose friends with your first kid versus

622
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: your second or your third. I guess like when I

623
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: got to my second and I was going through school circuits,

624
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: I was like, don't have time. I do not have

625
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: time to make friends. If you come into my circle, Like,

626
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: if you come into my immediate sphere. If your kid

627
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: is hanging out with my kid and you seem like

628
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: a cool person, like a nice person, will totally be friends.

629
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm not seeking anything out. I don't need anything more.

630
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: But with my son, you're like, who can help me?

631
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: Who can advise me on this?

632
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Like who knows?

633
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: You know, you really are seeking it out. But back

634
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: to the toxic moms. I don't understand why women are

635
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: doing it, why they are toxic, why they are making

636
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: other women feel bad about them.

637
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: It takes you back to high school days, yes, grade

638
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: school days even, Yes, what's the point.

639
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: What is the point? Like, what do you get from

640
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: making someone feel bad about themselves?

641
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: It's just like not being included.

642
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: I think that's so herwerful, Like when you know moms

643
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: do the mommy groups and they break off, Yeah, and

644
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: then you're you're not include included. Yeah that's like, oh,

645
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: well that must be a reflection of me.

646
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: You kind of take it personally, You for.

647
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: Sure have to take it personally. It's like the acting

648
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: thing again, Like what else are you going to take personally?

649
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: You know? And I don't. I mean I can understand

650
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: how maybe you're like, well, every time we hang out

651
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be with everyone, right, I guess,

652
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: I guess that's the justification. But at the same time,

653
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: if you're if you're if there are like six of

654
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: you and you're only out to coffee with like five,

655
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: it's obvious that you're only leaving one out. And I

656
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: just feel like, I just feel like we don't need

657
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: to make anyone feel like that. But it's hard enough.

658
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: What if you get into a situation and I can

659
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: speaking from my experience, where you test the waters, you

660
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: kind of join in a little bit, and then you

661
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: feel like this isn't right for me, how do you

662
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: get out?

663
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: I just go away, just go I'm just busy. I mean,

664
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to set what's going to

665
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: happen is you're you'll pull back and then they'll just

666
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: start talking about you behind your back and like why

667
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: you're not saying yes to the things, And I mean

668
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: they also have to feel it that you're not, you know,

669
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: talking about the things that they're talking about and prioritizing.

670
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like most of the time

671
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: it's like we can just agreat a part like we're

672
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: not right, Like we can all just it's fine, Like

673
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: you do your thing. I'm not in that thing. That's

674
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: totally fine, and I'm just going to go over here

675
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: and I'm going to try and find my people. Right.

676
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: But I think then maybe something that happens is and

677
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: I think this is at the root of all of it,

678
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: is just insecurity. And the fact is we're all insecure.

679
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: Like none of us. There's no there's no instruction manual

680
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: for being a parent or having kids or like living life.

681
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: So it's like maintaining friendships when you have kids. Yeah,

682
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: that's tricky, because super tricky. Certain friends just kind of

683
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: dwindle away because you don't relate.

684
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't.

685
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: They don't understand what you're dealing with.

686
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: When they don't you mean, when they don't have kids. Yeah,

687
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: and then anytime you bring up kids, that can be annoying.

688
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Or yeah, like I don't really want to hear about

689
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: her kids.

690
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: We always have to talk about her kids. I'm sorry,

691
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: it's ninety nine point nine percent of my life. I

692
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: don't know what they're telling you.

693
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: You need to get that percentage down first of all. Really,

694
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: and that's where I choose me comes in. Yes, I

695
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: think especially women with young kids like yourself. Yeah, don't

696
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: choose themselves enough, don't take the time, don't schedule them

697
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: their own well being into that busy, busy calendar.

698
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: I think I'm I think I'm okay at it.

699
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: How do you do it?

700
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: I really value working.

701
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: That's the first thing, Like individuality, that's your love for

702
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: what you do.

703
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I love working. And I also I tell

704
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: my kids, like, this is how you get to do things,

705
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: you know, like you want to do this camp, you

706
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: want to go on this trip, like mom and Dad

707
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: have to work. This is the way of the world. Also,

708
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: when I work and I'm not with you, I come

709
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: back and I'm like a fuller, richer person. Yes, and

710
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: we get to sit down at the dinner table or

711
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: like on the couch and like or in your bed,

712
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: and you get to tell me about your day because

713
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't there through every second of it. And I

714
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: get to tell you about my day. And So if

715
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: I say to you, like I can't do that right now.

716
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: I have to be over here and I have to

717
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: do this work. Someone's counting on me. And you know

718
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: I am responsible for this work that.

719
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: I have to do.

720
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: That shows I believe that shows them Like another very

721
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: important part of life and that Mommy's not just mommy,

722
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Mommy's also Sally.

723
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that too, Yeah, definitely. I feel

724
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: like it's important that they see you wanting to work,

725
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: like they see you interested in furthering your whatever it is,

726
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: your knowledge of something, learning about things, or sharing things

727
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: using your platform. I wanted to talk to you about

728
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: your platform. Actually, you when we talked about the pivot,

729
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: you're talking about influencing that you know, influencing I guess.

730
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: Is what it's called now?

731
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: I know maybe yeah, that word, yeap, totally.

732
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: What's another word? We could call it?

733
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: Content creator?

734
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay? That but also official?

735
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: Icky, I know, but we are official, Jenny, We're superficial.

736
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm just winging it.

737
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: I mean, this rack of your clothing line would beg

738
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: to differ that you are not official. It's very official

739
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: over here.

740
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: I try.

741
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: Can anyone start influencing? Can anyone start a business where

742
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: they actually make an income as an influencer?

743
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: Do you think?

744
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: I think so? I'd like to think so. I think

745
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: you have to figure out what your space is, like,

746
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: what is your niche? You know, like, what what is

747
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: what is your area of expertise? Why are people listening

748
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: to you, and you have to. I mean, honestly, you

749
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: just have to have perseverance because social media is almost

750
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: as punishing and relentless as our other career that we have.

751
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: We know how to pick up, we really do.

752
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: We're like, We're like, how do you do it?

753
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: How do you keep creating content?

754
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: How do you come up with relatable ideas and like?

755
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: Because how often do you create your content?

756
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Like posts?

757
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Every day? You post daily?

758
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: I try to. There are some weeks where I just

759
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: get so down, like the whole thing just like bombards me.

760
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Who films your stuff? I film?

761
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: And then my husband Okay, I was.

762
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: Wondering if he was involved.

763
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: He's involved.

764
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: He supports this.

765
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: He's so supportive. I mean again, we go back to

766
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: his gene pool. He's the most supportive. He's also, you know,

767
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: in our business. He's not in the social media business,

768
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: but he's like actor writer. He's shot stuff before.

769
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: That comes in handy, so handy, your Instagram husband.

770
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: My Instagram husband, and so he will film stuff. He'll

771
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: help me brainstorm ideas.

772
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

773
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very helpful.

774
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Especially when you're like at the breaking point, you're up

775
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: against the wall and you just are like I've been there.

776
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: Like what what am I going to say?

777
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: What this?

778
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Nothing is interesting? I'm such a boring person.

779
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: I know.

780
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: I will tell you.

781
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: I will tell you you're not. I love your content,

782
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: everything you put out there, Like I would literally watch

783
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: you wash your face so just so you know, like

784
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: when you're having one of those down moments, like I

785
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: would watch you wash your face or like just put

786
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: on one of these shirts that like I'm thrilled.

787
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

788
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: And I think that's that they is like once you

789
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: have a following, those people will watch you do anything

790
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: and there's not and and I am those people for myself,

791
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: but for you or for me Like creators. That's what

792
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: we are. We're creators.

793
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: It's like momentarily like a momentary break, yeah, from our lives. Yes,

794
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: when we get to watch somebody else just living their lives. Yes.

795
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: And I think the way that I the way that

796
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: I create content when it's not like for a specific

797
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: brand and a specific product, is I now look at

798
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: my life as like tiny stories. Okay, you know, like

799
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: I'll go through my day and I'm like, is this

800
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: a story people other people are living and might want

801
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: to see through? Like my lens or maybe a funny lens,

802
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: like is this a funny Story's funny?

803
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: I like it.

804
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: I have to I have to do it. I have

805
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: to do the funny because you know, I the world

806
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: is so dark and so not pleasing, like and what

807
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: I loved when I was acting was the funny. So

808
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: it's like it's a way that I am not just

809
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: a marketer, but I'm still acting. That's what I love

810
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: about about the platform, And like what I've built is

811
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: like I still get to do some acting. Now I'm

812
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: doing some writing. It's weird, but like I guess I'm

813
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: doing that.

814
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: Also, And you're you're the DP and the I'm the DP.

815
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm the talent. I'm also I'm also a wardrobe. I

816
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: also edit. Do you edit yours?

817
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: I have.

818
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: I sit there at night after I put my kids

819
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: to bed, editing all.

820
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: Of my stuff. It's really time consuming.

821
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: It is crazy time consuming. And I had I was

822
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: at a dinner with not toxic mom friends but like

823
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: actually my mom friends and a few of them have

824
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: like real, real jobs, and we were talking about our

825
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: daughters and like what our daughters are going to do

826
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: when they get older, like as careers, and one of

827
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: my friends who has a real, real job, was like, Oh,

828
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: my daughter said she wants to be an influencer, and

829
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm like no, And there was like the two women

830
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: with the real jobs were like talking about how god

831
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: her daughter can't be an influencer. And I was sitting

832
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: there and I was like, they to think of myself

833
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: as an influence?

834
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Do they have any realization that you were having feelings

835
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: about me? Not really? Not really?

836
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: And I was like and in my head, I was like,

837
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: I was like, well, instead of looking at it the

838
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: way you're you guys are describing it right now, it

839
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: could be that your daughter is writing her own content,

840
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: coming up with her own concepts, filming it, acting in it,

841
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: and editing it and then selling it to brands. So basically,

842
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: she's like a one woman production company, which you guys

843
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: are you know, you woman, you friend are in the

844
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: entertainment industry, and she could be like her own production

845
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: company and including actress in it. But yeah, totally, that

846
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: would be horrible if she were an influencer. I totally

847
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: agree with you.

848
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: That's so good. Okay, So.

849
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: We have had the greatest discussion. I have loved chatting

850
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: with you, getting to know you. I feel like we're,

851
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: you know, very simpatico. Yes, Okay, I have one final question. Okay,

852
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: Sally Pressman, what was your last I Choose me moment?

853
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: I get very serious in tone when I asked them,

854
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: I know.

855
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: Because it is a very serious question. I think. I

856
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: regularly build I Choose Me moments in when I ask

857
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: my husband to take the kids for a little and

858
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: I do something for myself.

859
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 4: Whether that is a workout or a shower, when I

860
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: wash my hair and then you add the moisturizer and

861
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 4: then luxury.

862
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: I do like a leaven conditioner. Yeah, as I was

863
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: saying that, so I build in those little I Choose

864
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: me moments. And I am lucky enough to have a

865
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: partner who was like, yes, I recognize you do a lot.

866
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: You need some time, and I'm going to take the

867
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: kids and that's totally fine. One choose me moment that

868
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: I had to be like, it's a week night, it's

869
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: a school night. Can I please go over to my

870
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: friend's house with three of my other friends and can

871
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: we watch the last episode of Heated Rivalry together? And

872
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: my husband was like yes, And I just went over

873
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 3: to her house and we were in there like TV

874
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: room and there were four four of us just like

875
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: shrieking and crying and watching this show. Have you watched it? No?

876
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: He did?

877
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: What is it? It's six episodes, It's on HBO. It's

878
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: about two rival ice hockey players to mail.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I know. Oh there's a lot of hype.

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Speaker 3: There so much hype. Like you have to watch it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you have to watch it. And if you need me

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Speaker 3: to come over to watch the final episode with you,

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Speaker 3: I will do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you my phone number.

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Speaker 3: Give give me your phone number, because you will be like,

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Speaker 3: what am I watching? What am I watching? For two

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Speaker 3: episodes and then I'll be like, just stay with it,

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Speaker 3: stay with it, get to episode three, stay with it,

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Speaker 3: and then you'll be like, okay, episode three was different,

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Speaker 3: and then four, five, six will just bring you into

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Speaker 3: this like just vortex of I can't get out of this.

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Speaker 3: This is the most amazing thing I've ever watched.

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Speaker 2: And I'm in anyway, you went to the watch it

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Speaker 2: with your girlfriends.

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Speaker 3: That was the I Choose me moment. I literally asked

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Speaker 3: for that and I got it and it was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to have that moment.

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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be my next I Choose Me.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be your next moment. Yes, it has

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Speaker 3: to be. You're gonna love it.

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Speaker 2: I do want to remind people that they can follow

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Speaker 2: you on your Yeah journey, they can on your platform.

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Speaker 2: Tell them your your what is it called your my handle?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Your handle?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's what it's called. Yeah, Sally pr

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Speaker 3: eight one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me you guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to share that my book, I Choose

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Speaker 2: Me Chasing Joy, Finding Purpose and Embracing reinvention is coming

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Speaker 2: April fourteenth, and it would mean the world to me

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Speaker 2: if you would pre order a copy or the audiobook

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your books. And yes, I am definitely

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Speaker 2: narrating the audiobook, so it's going to be so fun.