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Speaker 1: Introducing the twenty twenty Miami Marlins MLB draft class. Max Meyer,

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Speaker 1: right handed pitcher out of Minnesota, Dax Fulton, left hander

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Speaker 1: from Mustang High School in Oklahoma, Kyle Nicholas, right hander

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Speaker 1: ball State, Zach mccambley, right handed pitcher from Coastal Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Jake Eder, left handed pitcher from Vanderbilt twenty nineteen NCAA champions,

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Speaker 1: and finally Kyle Hurt, right handed pitcher from USC. Congrats

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Speaker 1: to all six of them, excited to follow their progress

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Speaker 1: through the Marlins organization. Our reaction to their selection is

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Speaker 1: coming up now on a new episode of Earning Their Stripes,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by three of my colleagues here,

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Speaker 1: a couple of them that know far more about the

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Speaker 1: whole draft process than I do. It's Eli Sussman here

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Speaker 1: with me, Ian Smith, co host of the new Briskets

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Speaker 1: and Babbi podcast. Welcome on, brother, How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Glad to be here. Of course, we got Spencer Morris,

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Speaker 1: fresh off streaming about six hours of draft reaction on Twitch,

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Speaker 1: and himself really well studied up on these draft prospects.

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Speaker 1: Hey Spencer, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: Everybody?

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Speaker 1: And finally Ethan Podowski. Thank you, Ethan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, good to be here, Good to hear from

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Speaker 4: you guys. Excited to hear what Spencer and Ian to

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Speaker 4: say about really going into in depth into these guys.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, happy to be back. It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep this podcast it's pretty short, in

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Speaker 1: order to get it out to the people in order

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Speaker 1: to get on with the rest of our days. A

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Speaker 1: super super unorthodox approach to the draft from the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: going all pictures with all six of their picks and

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Speaker 1: heading up to over twelve million dollars in bonus spending.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately when we get all these guys signs and it

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Speaker 1: should go a long way to improving the organization, possibly

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Speaker 1: the last time in a long time that they're going

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Speaker 1: to have this kind of premium draft position, especially at

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Speaker 1: the top when they were picking number three. Overall, we're

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Speaker 1: going to bounce back between Spencer and Ian to give

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Speaker 1: overviews on each of these picks, each of these pictures

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Speaker 1: and why they came off the board when they did,

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Speaker 1: and what to expect from them. So the first one

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Speaker 1: was somewhat of a surprising pick, but the more you

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Speaker 1: dig into them, really fascinating player right handed Max Meyer

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Speaker 1: Adam Minnesota, just give us an overview of him, Spencer,

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Speaker 1: and how you feel about the fact that the Marlins

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Speaker 1: took a bit of a lead to get him at

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Speaker 3: Overall, Yeah, the feeling I got when the Meyer pick

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Speaker 3: happened was kind of like the feeling I got when

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Speaker 3: the Astros drafted Korea, where it was what I wanted

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Speaker 3: them to do, but I didn't think it was going

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Speaker 3: surprise from my perspective. As a Lacey is an outstanding prospect.

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Speaker 3: I think he can definitely be a top of the

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Speaker 3: rotation starter. But Meyer is my favorite pitcher in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I think. You know, when you talk about Lacey, you

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Speaker 3: talk about how good the fastball breaking ball combination is,

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Speaker 3: and I think Myers is just even better. I think

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Speaker 3: for me, I like Meyer's mechanics a little bit more too.

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Speaker 3: The only real disadvantage as I see it, for Meyer

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Speaker 3: as compared to Lacey is that his frame is in

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Speaker 3: his ideal But for me, I'm going to air on

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Speaker 3: the side of stuff more than I am going to

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Speaker 3: pitcher that I would have gone with too. I think

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Speaker 3: you know, the fastball is in plus plus territory. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people have an eighty on the slider. People

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Speaker 3: who he talked to, most people would call it the

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Speaker 3: I think he's a starter all the way he might pitch.

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Speaker 3: Some people seem to think that he might pitch out

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Speaker 5: But I think long term, you're talking about a guy

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Speaker 5: who can be a number two starter, maybe even better.

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Speaker 5: And I think he compares pretty favorably to Walker Buehler.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, Walker Buehler. I like that, And I guess you

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Speaker 1: look at his measurables six foot even listed at one

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Speaker 1: A big question obviously going to be that change up.

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Speaker 1: But Ian and Ethan, I mean, I think what we've

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Speaker 1: And some of the guys that have burst through to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'll take this, I believe.

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Speaker 6: With talking about Meyer's stuff, the true stuff that he

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Speaker 6: has is elite all the way around. And I mean, Eli,

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Speaker 6: what you're saying with the Miami organization developing changeups is

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Speaker 6: a great It's a great point to make. I think.

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Speaker 6: I think his change up has already looks like it

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Speaker 6: aw the video that somebody posted to you this morning,

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Speaker 6: of his change up that looked fantastic. Granted, everything we've

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Speaker 6: I think he's got the most potential to be a starter,

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Speaker 6: six foot, two hundred pounds. I'm not complaining with that.

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Speaker 6: Throwing that heat is a struggle to keep up with.

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Speaker 6: He's throwing one hundred and twenty innings in college, I

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Speaker 6: believe in Minnesota total seventy five of that. I think

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Speaker 6: as a starter, I think seeing him pitch one hundred

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's going to be in the next

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Speaker 6: The fastball and a slider a fantastic.

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Speaker 2: We know that.

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Speaker 6: But if he can make that change of it, that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I saw one of two videos of

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Speaker 4: The fastball looks like it has some really good life

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Speaker 4: So you know, from that standpoint, it's really exciting because

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Speaker 4: That's bullpen arm this year is really really you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's obviously something that's really exciting for this organization.

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Speaker 4: But from an overall, you know standpoint, I mean to me,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't the sexy pick. You know, you're sitting there

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Speaker 4: first pick for you know, should be a loaded undrafted

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Speaker 4: also I saw Ian mentioned this on Twitter for Dax Fulton,

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Speaker 4: who will I'm sure we'll get to. But I think overall,

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Speaker 4: the Marlins clearly had a plan coming into this draft.

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Speaker 4: they went heavy on college bats and especially power bats,

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Speaker 4: it hard. And it's good to see the organization having

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Speaker 4: And we've been seeing that from the Marlins in these

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Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect transition to their next pick,

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Speaker 1: number forty overall, left hander Dax Fulton. His full name

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Speaker 1: is Daxton Fulton, but he was announced and publicized as Dax,

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Speaker 1: so he's going to go as Dax as a professional player.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what we need to know ian about this

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Speaker 6: Oh Man, Well, Dax Fulton might be my favorite pick

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Speaker 6: of the night, our figure pick of the draft of

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Speaker 6: the Marlins this week. This kid was as widely known

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Speaker 6: He's coming off Tommy John surgery, which is always not

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Speaker 6: this kid's got a sixty six, two hundred pound freeing

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Speaker 6: probably got a sixty five great curveball right now. It's

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Speaker 3: I think he compares for somebody in the Marlin system.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're going to breeze through the names for

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Speaker 1: All right, right after him. Number seventy five. Overall, that

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Speaker 6: seen put it together consistently. His fastball can sit in

434
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 6: the mid nineties. I'm just I'm not sure what they

435
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 6: want to do with her here. I know this was

436
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 6: a pick that they wanted to go. They wanted another

437
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 6: pitcher here, and I think he's got potential to be

438
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 6: a back end starter possibly, But this is an arm

439
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 6: that's going to develop slowly and it's going to be

440
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 6: a project. But I think he has the potential to

441
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 6: be something in this system eventually.

442
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, that's all you could really ask for when

443
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: you get to the fifth round is you can't really

444
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: bank on any of those guys definitely being impact major

445
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: leaguers and just keeping all this stuff realistically. Look at

446
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: some of the best draft classes that teams have had.

447
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: That usually means you get four, maybe five guys that

448
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: have some sort of longevity in the big leagues. So

449
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, even most of these guys end

450
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: up doing that, then that's that's gonna be exactly what

451
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: Marlins could realistically dream of happening.

452
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the thing you know I was thinking

453
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: about is you know, you only have five starter spots

454
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: in the big leagues, and we took six pitchers, so

455
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: you know, and and we already have a bunch of

456
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 4: pitching talent in the system. So you know, this is

457
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: you're not going to get your starting five from this draft,

458
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 4: but it's in You're not usually going to get a

459
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: starter anywhere pasted round two or three unless you know,

460
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: something you know, really spectacular happens with the development or

461
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: something was missed along the way. But my point is,

462
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: you know, most of the time when you when you're

463
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: taking pictures, you know, three, four, five, whatever, you're you're

464
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: drafting ah organizational depth, and you're drafting guys that are

465
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: gonna end up being relievers, and so you know you're

466
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: gonna need relief help, you know, at some point. So

467
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: the Marlins are just giving themselves plenty of options for pitching,

468
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: and you can never have enough pitching. So you know,

469
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: if if one or two of these guys turns into

470
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 4: a starter at the end of the day, you know,

471
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: when all things are said and done, Like let's say,

472
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: you know, obviously they hope Meyer is a starter, and

473
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: and I think we all expect him to be, and

474
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: then maybe Fulton turns into one. Now you have four

475
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: guys that have really stuff, and like Spencer said, a

476
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: lot of these guys are going to be, you know,

477
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: fastball breaking ball believers. If you have really good breaking balls,

478
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 4: then that's a really effective and good fastballs that's a

479
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: really effective reliever right there. So I think the Marlins

480
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: you know, wanted to, like I said earlier, wanted to

481
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: kind of address that pitching. And now they have an

482
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: overload of depth from this class that they can add

483
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: to the system to really just kind of beef it

484
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 4: up and back, you know, provide some fallback for you know,

485
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: some of these guys, you know, the Trevor Rodgers is

486
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: the practicing Garretts, the you know, you know, the Eddies

487
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: and and all these guys down lower just kind of

488
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: provides him back up in case something goes wrong along

489
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: the way. Where you have, you know, guys that can

490
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: easily jump in and and that's where we talk about

491
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: you know, we talk about it all the time, the

492
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: layers of talent in this system that just keep growing,

493
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: where you just move further down the line and it's

494
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 4: still guys that you think have big league potential. So

495
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: it's just another draft, just adding to the you know,

496
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 4: adding to the system and making it, you know, all

497
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: the more better than it's already been.

498
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, the early indications are that this draft class has

499
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: been pretty well received across the industry. Just some national reporters,

500
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: John Hayman and Peter Gammon's both citing anonymous sources, you know,

501
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: executives and scouts, not not putting a name to it,

502
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: but saying that the Marlins in terms of talent their

503
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: classes top five across the sport in this year's class,

504
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: which is a similar tune that we heard last year.

505
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: One of course, it was much different conditions that year,

506
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: So this un orthodox strategy adjusting to conditions. The early

507
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: signs are it went well, and of course the big

508
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: critical factor will be making sure that you sign all

509
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: these guys and then cleaning up in the undrafted situation.

510
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: We're going to get to that in just a moment.

511
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: I should note that how many responses I've seen on

512
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: Twitter from Marlins fans that are simply scarred from what

513
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: the team has done the last handful of years before

514
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: the ownership transition, Because of course, the last time that

515
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: the Marlins picked this high in the draft it was

516
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Kolek. That was in twenty fourteen, number two. Overall,

517
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: he's still in the organization, just in name only. He's

518
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: not really not really any expectation of him moving forward

519
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: after a bunch of injuries and frankly just being considered

520
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: a bizarre pick at the time to begin with, and

521
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: even since then when they've made some good picks. Andrew

522
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Keeney of course has developed into a very credible starter,

523
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: but he got traded away right after he debuted, so

524
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: Marlins fans haven't really got to see that and trust

525
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: in that firsthand. Of course, same thing Chris Vaalamont all

526
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: the way in the fifth rounds a couple of years ago,

527
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: had that big breakout season in the minors in twenty nineteen.

528
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: We talked a lot Ethan about him on the Pod

529
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: last year, and then he got traded a very legitimate

530
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: trade to get Leylan Diaz. But when you don't actually

531
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: see these guys come up all the way through the

532
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: system being drafted and developed. Then you have a hard

533
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: time trusting pitchers in general to be usful to pick,

534
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: and so that this is gonna be a challenge for

535
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people to accept just who all the

536
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: morrowns closely because they've had a lot of pain or

537
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: simply just haven't seen it for themselves in a while.

538
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: And that's gonna it's gonna be interesting to follow that

539
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: progression from here. But before we get out of here,

540
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: I did want to touch on the undrafted part. Considering

541
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: this one was shortened from the usual forty rounds to

542
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: only five rounds, there's a big crop of undrafted players,

543
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: ones that are more notable than we've seen in years past.

544
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: And I'm sure, Spencer, you started up on a lot

545
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: of guys who did not go into the draft, that

546
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: did not get selected so far, so they're still technically available.

547
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Whether or not they actually want to sign for twenty

548
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars or less is a big question. But who

549
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: are some of the names that come to mind to

550
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: you that you think have very legitimate major league potential

551
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: and would be worth really paying attention to as this

552
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: period plays out beginning on Sunday, when you can sign

553
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: these guys.

554
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think the way I view it

555
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: is that the vast majority of these guys are not

556
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: going to sign. I think that, you know, the super

557
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: notable names that are out there top of the rankings

558
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: who went undrafted will be either you know, returning to

559
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: college or going to college, depending on where they are

560
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: in their career right now. But in terms of some

561
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: of the top names guys that I watched you didn't

562
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: end up getting picked. A couple prep guys who I

563
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: had actually first round grades on that weren't selected were

564
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: Tanner Witt and Drew Bowser. Those guys will definitely both

565
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: be going to college. But there were some college guys

566
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: that I did like that didn't end up going. Seth

567
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Wansway from Ohio State, I thought had one of the

568
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: better college breaking balls after Reed, Debt, Meers, and mccambley.

569
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: Who the Marlins took. Parker Chavers, the center fielder. I

570
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: thought he had a nice set of skills. Teammate of

571
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: mccambley at Coastal Carolina. I think he projects his potential

572
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: center fielder at the next level, and he didn't get picked.

573
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: I had a top one hundred grade on him, So

574
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: probably Chavers and Lonzoi are the first two guys i'd call,

575
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: but I expect that we'll be seeing them both playing

576
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: in NCAA Seniors.

577
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, realistically I suppose is this will go to a

578
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: lot of college seniors. Those are the guys that obviously

579
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: either if they don't do affiliate involved in they do

580
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: independent ball, and twenty grands is better than some college

581
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: seniors have gone even in previous years where those guys

582
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: they just don't have much leverage in the situation. But

583
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: the awkward position the Marlins are in, and Ethan you

584
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: know this really well from following them last year, is

585
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: how much depth they have in the organization. And of

586
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: course we have minor league contraction almost assuredly coming beginning

587
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: next year, so you're not going to have as much

588
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: for them to play these guys. And even if there

589
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: are intriguing names out there that you might be able

590
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: to get to believe in the Marlins culture and be

591
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: excited to sign and join the team, it's not the

592
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: new toy. Isn't always the one that the better option

593
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: in this case, like if you want to actually make

594
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: room for all these guys and continue adding in the

595
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: undrafted market. Ultimately they'll have to release others that were

596
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: in their minor league system these past few years and

597
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: having some success. So that's that's gonna be. The really

598
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: tricky decision that they make is the cost in terms

599
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: of bringing these guys at twenty thousand dollars apiece, maybe

600
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: even a little bit less. That's almost like besides the point.

601
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: It's about whether or not you already feel that the

602
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: system is loaded already, and whether or not these guys

603
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: would actually represent any upgrades over what they already have

604
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: and most positions.

605
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, when I first saw the draft and you know,

606
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: people were talking about the undrafted free agent school, I thought,

607
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: oh my god, that's gonna be. You know, it's gonna

608
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: be a mess. You're gonna have all these guys and

609
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: teams are just going to be going after them like crazy.

610
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: But then I really thought about it, and I realized

611
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 4: that it's a twenty million, twenty thousand dollars maximum that

612
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: you can put on these guys. And you realize, okay,

613
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: you know, there's not going to be as much of

614
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: a mad dash as you think. Like you said, Eli,

615
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: it's going to be mostly college seniors. You know, you

616
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: can't expect any of these big high school guys that

617
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 4: were going to go top five ten rounds to you know,

618
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: to go to the big leagues for twenty thousand dollars

619
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: when they realize they can go to college and develop

620
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: themselves like so many high school guys do, and come

621
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: back in a few years, or come back in a

622
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: few years and get drafted and make more money than this,

623
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: or go to JUCO. I think a lot of people

624
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: think that Juco is going to be huge this year,

625
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: and I could expect that. And then you know, college

626
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: juniors just for example, you know at UF we have

627
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: Tommy Mace and Jack Leftwich. Jack left which that's his name, right,

628
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I blank on it for a second.

629
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: But you have Mason Leftwich, who are two headline starters,

630
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: both guys that in a normal draft probably would have

631
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: been drafted, and probably you know, would be if they

632
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: were drafted in the top let's say five to ten rounds,

633
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: there's a good shot that they're going to going to

634
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: the majors. But you know, all of a sudden, they

635
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: don't get drafted because it's only five rounds and teams

636
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: are addressing, you know, their maximum needs and they're coming

637
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: back to school, so I think, yeah, you're gonna be draft.

638
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna be looking at a lot of college seniors here,

639
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: like the Marlins did last year when they went cheap

640
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 4: in the draft to sign some of the hire you know,

641
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: guys that they really wanted to go after with money.

642
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: But you know, you still there's still needs that need

643
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: to be addressed in the system. One thing I would

644
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: love to see the Marlins do, and I think is

645
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: something they have to do, is sign a catcher because

646
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: behind Jorge Alfaro, who I'm still a big believer in,

647
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: but the strikeout rate was really concerning this year as

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Speaker 4: I think we've kind of you know, beat into oblivion.

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Speaker 4: But they don't really have a lot of catcher depth

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Speaker 4: at all. I don't think there's catcher depth really to

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Speaker 4: talk about. You know, there's forteg and Banfield, but who

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Speaker 4: knows what's up with Bandfield. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: in Spencer, maybe you can talk about a guy that

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Speaker 4: would be available. I think catcher is something that the

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Speaker 4: Marlins really should addressed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't I there were a couple

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Speaker 7: of prep catchers, Kevin Parrada, Daniel Sussak that went undrafted

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Speaker 7: that you know project very favorably at the next level.

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Speaker 5: But I just don't you're not I don't think you're

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Speaker 5: really going to find any sort of prospects of note

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Speaker 5: in undrafted free agent. In the undrafted free agent market

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Speaker 5: this year, I don't really think the signings that will

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Speaker 5: come out of it are going to look too different

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Speaker 5: from a normal undrafted period, even though we had so

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Speaker 5: many fewer players drafted. I think with the catcher position,

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Speaker 5: it's certainly not the strongest in the organization. But you

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Speaker 5: don't you don't have to develop catchers necessarily. I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, they have so much talent and other spots

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Speaker 5: they're they're in good shape. If if catcher becomes a

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Speaker 5: glaring need at some point, I think they'll have more

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Speaker 5: than enough AMMO to fill that hole in the trademarket

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Speaker 5: if need be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with that. And you know,

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Speaker 4: catcher can be kind of a luxury pick if you

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Speaker 4: know you're sitting in the top ten next year and

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Speaker 4: there's no glaring needs and there's a good catcher, you know,

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Speaker 4: like a like a kind of what the Giants did

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Speaker 4: with with Joey Bart. I think that's something that you know,

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Speaker 4: the Marlins could look at doing in the future, but

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Speaker 4: you know, there's no reason at this point to me

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Speaker 4: to not just take a shout on some guy, take

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Speaker 4: a flyer, and you know, maybe something comes of it,

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Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, yeah, I don't think, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Marlins are going to be expecting any of the

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Speaker 4: guys that they sign, especially with the organizational depth, to

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Speaker 4: be headline prospects in this system. I think it's just

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Speaker 4: going to be you know, taking flyers, figuring out what

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Speaker 4: they can do and see if they can work any

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Speaker 4: of these guys into the system to the point where

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Speaker 4: you know they at least pull something out of this.

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Speaker 4: You know, in what would be usually a forty to

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Speaker 4: forty five person class, you're pulling six guys and then

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Speaker 4: adding a little more to it. So it'll definitely be interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure. You know, maybe the Marlins go pitture

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Speaker 4: heavy here and sign a bunch of senior pitchers, but

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Speaker 4: I I don't think it's gonna be what I expected

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Speaker 4: and what a lot of it is expected. I think

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Speaker 4: it'll be more like what Spencer said, which is just

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Speaker 4: a typical undrafted free agents class, just kind of guys

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Speaker 4: that you just give a fly or two.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, worth noting that right before we start recording.

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Speaker 1: Joe Fursorrow MLB dot Com Marlins be writer. He did

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Speaker 1: float the idea of the Marlins signing a catcher, at

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Speaker 1: least one catcher in the situation, and he doesn't really

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Speaker 1: do that stuff very randomly, so I would say the

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Speaker 1: odds of that happening are better than fifty percent that

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Speaker 1: they ends up signing one of those guys to catch.

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Speaker 1: But besides from that, we're just gonna once again congratulate

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Speaker 1: all the Marlins draft picks. Meyer Fulton, Nicholas mccamblely, eater hurt,

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Speaker 1: Excited to follow those guys coming up in the Marlins organization.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be covering them extensively here on, earning their

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Speaker 1: stripes throughout this year and beyond. It's gonna be kind

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Speaker 1: of awkward this year, assuming that there's no minor league season,

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Speaker 1: but nonetheless, Marlins are going to set up different ways

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Speaker 1: for these guys to get together and know each other another.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Ian. He's just starting up a new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Briskets and Babbie, about food and baseball, co hosting with

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Speaker 1: Lewis Davila. So that's gonna be coming up pretty soon,

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Speaker 1: and I urge all you guess to subscribe to that

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Speaker 1: and on the article. We're going to put this an

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Speaker 1: article form on fishtrips dot com two to.

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Speaker 3: Check out Fishtripes. Some really fun stuff on there.

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Speaker 1: And some links to a lot of intriguing undrafted players

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Speaker 1: in addition to the ones that Spencer already mentioned, so

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Speaker 1: that you guys are fully prepared for what the Marlins

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Speaker 1: are going to go after here. So, along with Ethan Badowski,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Morris, Ian Smith, It's Eli Susman, we're going to

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Speaker 1: turn this around and get it out to the public

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Speaker 1: real quick so that you guys are know what to

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Speaker 1: expect from this twenty twenty Marlins draft class.

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Speaker 2: Go fish and not an An