1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome all in everybody. Third hour, Clay and Buck underway 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: eight two two to eight eight two on those phone 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: lines you want to chat with us, try to take 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: some calls in the back of this hour, and we 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: have much to discuss with you, including Canada's action to 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: freeze all handgun purchases. And this is going to be 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: something that Democrats are pointing to pointing two to say, 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: see they're taking action, They're doing something. We'll discuss the 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: specifics of that at a moment. And then also, I 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: know Clay spoke with you all on Friday about the 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: latest revelations, the latest information about the response to that 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: horrific shooting in UV all day and it is clear 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: beyond doubt U I mean, I talked. I was on 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity's show Clay on Thursday, right before I left 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: for the weekend, speaking about this. The timeline response timeline 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: is unacceptable. There was a clear breakdown here and they're 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: going to be looking at this from the perspective of 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: law enforcement command failure on the scene and even I 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: think for many more distressing the possibility here that there 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: were some some of those sworn law enforcement officers who 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: were not willing to charge in knowing that there was 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: a shooter with children in a school building just feet 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: away behind that classroom door. That's that's very troubling to hear. 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: I know you said you spoke to a lot of 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: law enforcement on Friday, Clay, and they were pretty uniformly outreious, furious. 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Is that I mean, tell me a bit just by 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: by way of review before we talk about the Canadian response. Yeah. So, 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously for those of you I know a 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: lot of people were traveling on Friday right as we 30 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: started the show, they were having the Texas Department of 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Public Safety director address the situation, and he admitted it 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: was the wrong decision to wait. But Buck, we opened 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: up phone lines and we had people calling from all 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: over the country. I said, hey, if you've been trained 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: for the school shooting, active shooter, mass shooter events, all 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: them called in and they were furious at the way 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: that the Uvalde Police Department responded. And again for people 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: out there who missed the timeline. At eleven thirty three, 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: this shooter entered the school, Buck. By eleven thirty five, 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: there were multiple police officers also in the school pursuing 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: this shooter. And then they did not breach the door 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: until twelve fifty, So they left that madman inside of 43 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: those school classrooms one eleven, in classroom one twelve for 44 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: seventy five minutes, sitting outside of that room for seventy 45 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: five minutes. They allowed him to be in there alone. 46 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: And so I know there are a lot of people 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: who are furious about the way the police responded. Look, 48 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: we support police on this show overwhelmingly, but it doesn't 49 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: mean that every police officer and every police department gets 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: every incident right. And in this one, I don't think 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: there's any doubt. In fact, they've already admitted that they 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: got it wrong. But how in the world they allowed 53 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: seventy five minutes to pass with that guy armed inside 54 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: of that room, and who knows how many additional wives 55 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: were lost with nine to eleven calls coming in buck 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: with Yeah, they knew they were kids trapped, and they 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: knew they were kids trapped in the classroom with a 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: mass shooter. That has to be that has to be go. 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it has to be everybody. Everyone who's who's 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: stacked up against that wall, who has you know, has 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: a vest on and has a gun. They've got to 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: enter that room and they've got to deal with a 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: threat full stop. Although otherwise, what do we have law 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: enforcement training for these situations? For now? I know there 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: was that bord Tech Border Patrol effectively border patrol swat 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: team that went in there, thank god, and ended the threat, 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: but they weren't there two minutes after the situation. They 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: reports buck that they got so fed up being held 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: from being able to go that they finally said screw it, 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: we're going I mean, because they got there at twelve 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: fifteen and they didn't actually breach the door until twelve 72 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: fifty because reportedly the local police was not allowing them 73 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: to do it, And there's some report that they finally 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: just said screw you, guys were going in, yeah, and 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: they That is the sentiment that I think the whole 76 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: country shares, which is you gotta go in. Well, what 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: are you doing? How could you wait? How could you 78 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: allow this this situation? I mean, if you're not going 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: to if you're a scorn law enforcement officer, or you're 80 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: not going to risk your life in a situation where 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: there are children being massacred inside of a school building 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: and there's one eighteen year old shooter inside without factult 83 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: training proficiency. By the way, not that should really even 84 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: matter to the response all that much. But if you're 85 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: not going to go in, then you shouldn't be carrying 86 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: a gun in a badge. I agree, because you're you're 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: not willing to do what is necessary. And this would, 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: you would think, would be the ultimate situation right where 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: you have a clear case of awful evil that you 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: are the good guy being able to combat. There are 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: for relatively few situations in most police officers lives where 92 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: you would ever have the opportunity to save young kids 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: lives from a madman in a situation like this, to 94 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: not do it would this would seem to be the 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: exact reason why almost everyone would become a police officer, 96 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to protect the innocent from the violent and the evil. Yes, 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and let's be clear, I mean we're also very supportive 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: of military on this show. You are, I am, This 99 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: audience is. We have a lot of active military listening. 100 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: Military wouldn't be okay with it if you came under 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: fire and somebody in the unit threw down their gun 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: and said, ah, no part of this, and you know 103 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: and deserve it, I get shot, made a run for it. 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Military wouldn't say, oh, well, that's you know, and of 105 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: course not right. There are certain expectations. Of course, that's 106 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, we have the greatest military in all history. 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: But the point here is that there are expectations that 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: come along with these roles. So there was a massive 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: law enforcement failure on the scene by local law enforcement. 110 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: I think that's clear. The DOJ Department of Justice is 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: conducting a review of this. Now, I don't think they're 112 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna let us know anything more than we already know. 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: Kids are inside, kids are dying, kids are making panic. 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: Nine when one calls little kids and there's nineteen officers 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: in a hallway and they're doing nothing, unacceptable full stop. 116 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: Somebody can say, oh, you don't know, you weren't there wrong, 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: This was unacceptable. Okay, Now, what do we do for 118 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: a legislative perspective, if anything? Right? This is what the 119 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: big political debate always turns into in this country after 120 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: a mass shooting. First off, now I know this is candidate. 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: It's not the USA. I bet we I've never really 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: looked in this. I bet we have a lot of 123 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Canadian certainly podcast listeners and some of our some of 124 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: our signals must extend into into Canada from the radio, 125 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of Canadian listeners. I know we've got a 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: lot of Canadian podcast listeners on the terrestrial side. I 127 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: bet some of our stations reach them. Um. But here's 128 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: here's what they're doing in Canada, where they don't have 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: a massive gun violence problem, and they already have a 130 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: lot of regulations gun laws in place. Justin Trudeau, who 131 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: is remember, willing to use state force to bludgeon truckers 132 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: for opposing a vaccine mandate for a vaccine that failed. 133 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I just want to remind everybody of this that was 134 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: all about vaccine mandates. The vaccine didn't stop the spread. 135 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that data later on this week, 136 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: as we all know. But here is Justin Trudeau, oh 137 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: so self satisfied and smug, announcing what they're going to 138 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: be doing our Canadian brothers and sisters up north. We're 139 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: introducing legislation to implement a national freeze on handgun ownership. 140 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: What this means is that it will no longer be 141 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: possible to buy, sell, transfer, or import handguns anywhere in Canada. 142 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: And we'll require the permanent alteration of long gun magazines 143 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: so they can never hold more than five rounds. These 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: are actions that doctors, experts and chiefs of police have 145 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: been calling for for years, and we're acting on their advice. Okay, 146 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: there's so much that's wrong, bad, idiotic. I mean, there's 147 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: so much here, Clay. First of all, the five round magazine, 148 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: five round limitation in the magazine, bullets in the magazine 149 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: or rounds. Don't yell at me. I know it's not 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: the bullets the round, but in the magazine. That's just 151 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: going to make people much happier to have their their 152 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: their previous magazine. You're not going to get everybody to 153 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: put changes in the magazines they already own in Canada. 154 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: And for the bad guys, for the people that want 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: to commit violence, commit crimes, they're gonna know, well, this 156 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: is great. I'm gonna have a thirty round magazine and 157 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: even if I come up against somebody, I know that 158 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have an advantage against them. If it does 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: come into a gunfight, I'm gonna know that somebody defending 160 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: their home is limited to five. Now, this is unworkable, unenforceable, 161 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: and moronic. But they're doing it because they think that 162 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: guns are the problem, when really actually criminals and the 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: criminally insane are the problem with something else we just 164 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: talk about. But Democrats are going to point to this, 165 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Clay and say, see, Canada's taking action, but they're not 166 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: going to do anything in this country, which I think 167 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: is so interesting. Well, this just is a big picture question. 168 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: We've got four hundred million guns in the United States, 169 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: four hundred million. I don't know what the number is 170 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: in Canada, but they're more guns than people in the 171 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: United States. I would imagine that Canada has you know, 172 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,359 Speaker 1: ten fifteen, twenty million at least guns as well. Twelve 173 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: million legal and illegal is the estimate they have. Okay, 174 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: so they have a big percentage of people who have 175 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: access to weapons there as well. Tell me why I'm 176 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: wrong in this book. All this is going to do 177 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: is if this war to pass, create a monstrous black 178 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: market in the guns that every buddy is going to want, 179 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: which are far better than the guns that you can 180 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: buy now. And I don't I don't understand how this 181 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: is going to solve anything at all. Well, Clay, there's 182 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: also the problem of they passed these gun laws and 183 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: all it does is agitate the law abiding people like me, 184 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: for example, live in New York City. Now we're expecting 185 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court ruling to come down any day now 186 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: in this month, Yes, any day now, that will invalidate 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: most likely the may issue rules for for I'm sorry, 188 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: I believe it's actually on conceal well, it's may issue 189 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: with regard to conceal carry right, it gets complicated. Basically, 190 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: you can't carry a gun in New York unless you're connected, 191 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: unless you really have some in within the people who 192 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: don't know, getting a gun in New York City is 193 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: almost impossible, Clay, the rules right now are and I 194 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: know people I have friends who have gotten you know, 195 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: gotten their license. Here for a handgun, you can get 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: a premise permit. The premise permit takes about six months 197 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: to get. You have to go out to some office 198 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: in Queens, New York somewhere to get fingerprinted for you. 199 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: If you go down to one police plaza. I think 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: it costs three or four hundred dollars. It takes you know, 201 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: six to nine months to get. And that only allows 202 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: you then to buy a handgun that you keep in 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: a lockbox and you have a trigger guard on it 204 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: in the lockbox and in a separate lockbox. I am 205 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: not making this up. You must keep your ammunition so 206 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: that when a burglar or a home invasion happens, you 207 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: can throw your lockboxes at that home invader and know 208 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: that maybe you'll, maybe you'll give him a concussion because 209 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you're not gonnable to get to your firearm in an 210 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: expeditious or fast enough manner. New York is probably going 211 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: to have its gun laws invalidated here pretty soon or 212 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: at Washington, DC as well, right, I mean, I think 213 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: that that Washington DC is also tied up in this 214 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: because there's so many people listening to us right now 215 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: who co across to Virginia or Maryland, and every time 216 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: you drive into DC, you become a felon basically based 217 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: on their their rules if you just have a gun 218 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: in your car. And my friend Joe Barelli, who's the 219 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: city councilman from Staten Island here in New York, had 220 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: a great piece recently in The New York Post where 221 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: he talked about how because New York City's Mayor Eric 222 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Adams only talks about guns, doesn't talk about bad guys, 223 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: doesn't talk about criminals, doesn't talk about you know, we're 224 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna crack down on the violent, the perpetrators. 225 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: It's always the gun. The unanimate object is the problem, 226 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: right that the thing that tens of millions of people 227 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: legally own, constitutionally protected, have committed no crimes whatsoever. But 228 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: somehow that object is the thing that we're fighting. We're 229 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: not fighting against criminals, were fighting against guns. That's the mentality. 230 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: There were over three thousand gun arrests in twenty twenty one, 231 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: over a thousand of them. The district attorney here dismissed 232 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: basically either wanted to deferred prosecution agreement dismiss So here's 233 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: the problem. They make these really owners and annoying gun 234 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: rules for people, and then the people who flagrantly violate 235 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: them and carry a loaded handguns in the streets of 236 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: New York City are actually not being aggressively prosecuted. Why 237 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: because the laws disproportionately affect young minority males, and so 238 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: the cause of social justice is not served by the 239 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: new laws meant to disarm people because they have a 240 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: disproportionate violation of the statutes that they're pushing. That's what 241 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: we see in New York and in Mayor Bloomberg's defense, 242 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: because I was fascinated by stopping frisk in general. What 243 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: he said was, we're stopping and frisking based on the 244 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: percentages of people that commit crimes. Right, so if you 245 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: violent crime involving guns and then stopping frisk suddenly became 246 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: unacceptable and guess what happened? Crime started sky And it's 247 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: actually stop question and frisk is the way the process 248 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: would actually work. And by that you would have MYPD 249 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: officers who would walk up to the First of all, 250 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: there are a lot of You see somebody walking a 251 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: certain they walk with a certain they're favoring one side. 252 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: You see a bulge, you want to go talk to them? 253 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: What is that? You have people that have an illegal 254 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: gun on the streets, then have a cop come up 255 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: to them, and guess what, they usually start to panic 256 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: and they sound a little bit nervous because they realize 257 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: that it's very, very illegal. Sou but they got rid 258 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: of stop, question and frisk. They got rid of so 259 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: many of it. They made it so you can legally, 260 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else say, you legally 261 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: smoke weed on the street, urinate on the street. They 262 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: turn this place into an open sewer on the streets, 263 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and they wonder why and this is true of every 264 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: major city where Democrats are in charge across the country. 265 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: They wonder why we have all the crime problems that 266 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: we do. Gee, I wonder everybody. It couldn't be any 267 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: more obvious. Democrats have to pay a price for this 268 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: one too. Well, we'll continue on with this, and we've 269 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: got a whole lot more to talk about here on 270 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: the gun control issues. So stay around with stick around 271 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: with us. 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Hey, guys, DC, just us, just dash 298 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: US system strikes again. I knew before the Susman trial 299 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: that the Obama appointed judge when he allowed four different jurors, 300 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: one who said she couldn't remember if she donated to Hillary, 301 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: another whose husband worked for Hillary's campaign in two thousand 302 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: and eight, another one who was a never Trumper who 303 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: hated Trump, and another one who was a radical leftist 304 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: that said the justice system is racist. I knew that 305 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: kangaroo court. I knew that there was no chance rig jury. 306 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Susman was never gonna go down and Clay, you guys 307 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: just bet your stay dinner on Hunter. The Vegas is 308 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: taking the bet off the board. It moved up to 309 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: minus fifty five thousand on the money line that Hunter 310 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: won't face prosecution. I think I'm already cased in that way, 311 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: Hugh Travis, thank you for the call. By the way, 312 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm as I don't know if there was betting offshore. 313 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: You can't bet it legally in the United States. You 314 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: can't bet on politics in general. Offshore, they do allow 315 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: a variety. Does he mean like real bet? I thought 316 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: he was making a joke about art bet about the 317 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: stake dinner, about h Buck. I'm so plugged in and 318 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: paying attention to offshore odds that I can tell you 319 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: what the odds are of who's gonna win in Georgia 320 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: for the Senate to the minute. I can tell you, 321 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: so it's possible one of these offshores has been hanging odds. 322 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he's making a joke, and then maybe maybe I'm 323 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: taking it too seriously because I'm a gambling guy. I'll 324 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: be on my sports gambling show later today. 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I'm gonna solve the gun problem in 351 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: the United States of America right now. Why don't you 352 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: just do it like a pilot's license, You know what 353 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, when you get like a pilot's license, 354 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: you fly in sestas or whatever. You can't just go 355 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: fly in American Airlines jet. You gotta work your way up, 356 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: you gotta get rated. I think the first thing you 357 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: should get, regardless of your age, is you get a 358 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: little six shooter. It's all they give you. That's all 359 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: the you get, right and then as you work your 360 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: way up to more and more powerful guns that could 361 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: potentially do way more damage. You have to pass major, 362 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: major psychological evaluation. That's comedian Bill Burr there. I mean, 363 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: we're hearing a lot of policy ideas that aren't very 364 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: good ideas. I actually think he's a pretty funny comedian. 365 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: But he should leave the legislating about the Second Amendment 366 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: to people who have some understanding of how these things 367 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: actually work, just gonna say it. And the psychological testing, though, 368 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: that's what was I think interesting of what he says. 369 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: People seem to believe that there are some that there's 370 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the resources, that there's the ability, that there's the efficacy 371 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: of doing some psyche val Now, don't even get started 372 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: on doing a psychological test before you have a constitutionally 373 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: protected right that you can actually do. I mean, you're 374 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna do psyche vales before people can vote no. And 375 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: who's doing them, and who's doing them and what I mean, 376 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: it's a total of friends. So many of their ideas 377 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: are either idiotic or total non starters or just so 378 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: clearly meant to let's just let's just let's be honest 379 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: with this. Antagonize gun owners because gun ownership in this 380 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: country has become a culture war issue. The left thinks 381 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: that guns are ikey and gross, even if they own them. 382 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: They think gun owners somehow, even if they happen to 383 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: be one themselves, They think that the mass of gun 384 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: owners out there in the NRA is a terrorist organization. 385 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: All this other absurd nonsense they spew on a regular basis. 386 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: If they had ideas for how to fix things, I 387 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: would want to hear them and we would go along 388 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: with them. They don't have ideas on how to fix things. 389 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: They just want to harass people that don't agree with them. 390 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: The only intellectually honest position for the gun grabbers, the 391 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: only one that really makes any sense, is they want 392 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: to take all of your guns. And that's a complete 393 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: and utter catastrophe absurdity. Constitutional violation would probably lead to 394 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: a civil war. I mean, seizing all the guns, seizing 395 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: them with government force, I think is a total nightmare 396 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: scenario that even the Democrats know is not feasible in 397 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: the least. But Clay, we still have to hear this stuff. 398 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: We have to hear about what's going on Canada. We 399 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of lines that are lit, including this. 400 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: We have a former NYPD lieutenant who's calling in from 401 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Long Island, Danny. Danny, you're an expert, what do you 402 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: think about the situation? Well, I never claimed to be 403 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: an expert and anything, boys, But first of all, the 404 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: island to be on the show, Yes, I was in 405 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: a lieutenant YPD. And I've also been in charge of 406 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: several school districts on Long Island where I've run security 407 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: and lockdown, drilled in all of these things. And what 408 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I hate in any of these circumstances is the rush 409 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: to blame, and as always, the cops always get to blame, 410 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: and a lot of these things, and I've read a 411 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: lot about this thing now, and this is what I 412 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: stick when I see that I don't see people noting. 413 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: The only thing we know for sure is that this 414 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: gunman walked through an open door that was left open 415 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: intentionally by a teacher who apparently went outside to make 416 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: a phone call and take a smoke. Yeah, and within now, 417 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: so that's how you got in. And I'm going to 418 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: imagine that the classroom door was opened too. He walked in, 419 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: and he closed the door, and at some point a 420 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: lockdown was called and the police arrived, and you admitted 421 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: that the cop was there within twelve minutes, two minute 422 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: that door two minutes at that door. Now, I've read 423 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: a police officer who said he was there for forty 424 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: minutes waiting for the key, and at no point did 425 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: he hear a shot from inside that door. Now, because 426 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: nobody's describing what they can see inside that door, and 427 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: I've had it been described to me as a steel door. 428 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: The door was made to stop a gunman, and unfortunately 429 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: the gunman at this point was already in and the 430 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: good gunman was on the outside. And as a foot 431 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: coup where we all started out and my dad's met 432 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven years in the rescue truck. Was the first 433 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: member of the anti terrorist team in Nook City Police 434 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: Department fifty years ago. Told me there's only so much 435 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: the foot cop can do. So what am I doing 436 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: confronting with a steel plated door. I can't reach it. 437 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: And what happens is when you show up at a 438 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: lockdown drill at the school, everybody is hiding where they 439 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: were when the button was pushed. So the janitor is 440 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: not walking down the hallway with the key saying who 441 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: needs help, He's nobody knows where anybody is. There's very 442 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: little cell phones in these schools because the schools were 443 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: built like bombs shelters back in the day. So the 444 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: police are arriving into a silent building. Everybody's hiding. It 445 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: is ghastly quiet. And that cop said they were at 446 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: the door. They did not hear shot at the door, 447 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: and they were looking for the key and they couldn't 448 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: find the janitor because the janitors who was doing what 449 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: he was told to do, which is high. So so 450 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: what was there an initial because we had been told 451 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: that there was a breach, Now I was I've been 452 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: away the last few days, obviously, so I'm catching up 453 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: on Yeah, so let me let me fill in. The 454 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: report that we got on Friday was that the I've 455 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: still got it written down in front of me here. 456 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: The shooter entered the school at eleven thirty three am Central. 457 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: By eleven thirty five, that's within two minutes, the police 458 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: are also there, and they are reportedly exchanging fire with 459 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: this This is the point. I don't understand how they're 460 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: exchanging gunfire with this guy. And then we're being told 461 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: that there's no way they can get in through the 462 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: steel door unless they exchange gunfire with him in the hallway, 463 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: and the guy locked himself in the place with the 464 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: steel door. Right, it's a it's a great que officer. 465 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Officer Danny from Long Island, what do you what do 466 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: you make of that? If there was an initial exchange 467 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: of gunfire, how do does that play out? There has 468 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: been so much misinformation and no one we originally was 469 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: told that a school district security guards. Right, yeah, well 470 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: they admitted that's totally not true. We know that. Yeah. Well, 471 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: what we really need to do is wait until some 472 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: higher authority does a very thorough investigation finds out what happened, 473 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: interviews everybody. I'm hoping that's filming the school in the hallways, 474 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: and we will see exactly what transpired before we fire 475 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: any police officers, demean their courage into a lot of 476 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: other things that we really don't know. The only thing 477 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: we know at this point is that a school teacher, 478 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: in clear violation of every known declore, opened up a door, 479 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: propped it open, and left it open. That's the only 480 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: thing we know that. I mean, Danny, I think though 481 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to hear this, I'm 482 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna say it's not about no one's called out any 483 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: individual officer, and no one says any individual officers would 484 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: be fired. But it's about it. It's about the command 485 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: issue in the timeline of what the procedure was in place, 486 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: because I think just from a from a basic, basic 487 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: common sense, the endpoint an hour is too long for 488 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: our gun, even if what you say is totally accurate, right, 489 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: even if the situation behind the steel door, that is 490 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: too long. So there was clearly a procedural failure in 491 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: how to get around that situation. I'm not sure. By 492 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: the way, the Texas Department of Public Safety Director Stephen 493 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: McCraw said they made the wrong decision to wait. So 494 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: he said that in the press conference on Friday, So 495 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: they're acknowledging that they made the wrong decision. Now, look, 496 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: this is always said on Friday Show too, and I'll 497 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: reiterate it now. The person who is responsible for this 498 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: is the killer. Right, So when you're assessing blame, it 499 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: obviously starts at the top with this murderous psychopath. But 500 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: then you flow down and if you're exchanging fire with 501 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: the guy two minutes after you run into into the school, 502 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: how does that ever get to the point where then 503 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: you're outside the room for seventy five minutes? Right? And 504 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: just one one more quick question for you, Danny. I'm 505 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: care and again I'm asking how to curiosity if you've 506 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: seen anything or if you could speak to this. Okay, 507 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: the steel door is locked. I assume the classroom has windows, 508 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: right or do they? I mean, how much of a 509 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: bunker are these hardened schools? Now? I'm that's a good 510 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: point because you don't also see any videos of police 511 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: officers outside the window, and it boggles me that they 512 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't attempt an assault that side. I guarantee. The biggest 513 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: problem here was about sixty seven different agencies running around 514 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: no communication, including like the off duty guy who ran 515 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: in to get his own kids. I mean, I know 516 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: you think about you think about that, what happens to 517 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: he saved his own kids and left out the children behind. 518 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: So so nobody assumed the perimeter and took complete control. 519 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Because you've got a lot of different agencies, different radio frequencies. 520 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: It's not as easy as the New York City Police 521 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: upon where you got thirty seven guys who were in 522 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: the same uniform. So that's going to be the bottom 523 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: line that that who was in control and did he 524 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: have the ability to communicate with everybody else in the scene. 525 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: Probably not. Hey, Danny, thanks for serving your community and 526 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: for calling in. We appreciate you. Out in Long Island, 527 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: my friend, let's get Tom and Florida in here real quick. 528 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: He's got some thoughts on the gun situation up in Canada. 529 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: Hey Tom, Hey, how are you doing. We're good? What's 530 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: up next? Well, I was just telling the John would 531 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: answer the phone. I'm from Canada, was born and raised there, 532 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: and you could never get handguns in Canada and it 533 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: was next time possible. You were talking about the laws 534 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: in New York City. It was worse than that. And 535 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot of hunter's, a lot of long rifles, everything else. 536 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: But there are the handguns that ever came into Canada 537 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: was across the border from winter from Detroit to Windsor 538 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeagle handguns. Yeah, that's that's that sounds about right. I mean, Tom, Tom, 539 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: thanks for calling me that. I just say, by the way, 540 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: we got our question. We definitely have Canadians who live 541 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: in America or who have been on that bridge by 542 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: the way between Detroit and h and Windsor's white a bit. 543 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: I actually had. I had a Canadian couple Clay in 544 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Bermuda who were Canadian by way of Serbia. They were 545 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Serbian immigrants to Canada who love the show stop me 546 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: and stopped me to take a photo. So that was 547 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: very nice. Makes me look nice there. Well, we appreciate that. Yeah, 548 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: hopefully they weren't playing music too loud for you on 549 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: the beach. No bluetooth speakers allowed. Um. When we come 550 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: back with close out the show, positive story here top 551 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: gun Maverick. It's amazing. It is really really fun. 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While you were down in from I 588 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: was getting kicked out a little league games and going 589 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: to go see Top Gun Maverick. I took all three 590 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: boys on Friday afternoon. Top Gun Maverick has now become 591 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: the biggest, most successful, most lucrative Memorial Day movie launch ever. 592 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: It is also the most successful Tom Cruise movie launch ever. 593 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: And Tom Cruise obviously has been making movies for basically 594 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: forty years now. And it's as good as everybody says 595 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: it is. Buck, I don't know what percentage of our 596 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: audience went to see it, or we'll see it in 597 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: the near future. I would bet almost one hundred percent 598 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: at least if you still go out to movie theaters 599 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: at all. It's so good. I all three of my 600 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: kids loved it. I took my seven, my eleven, and 601 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: my fourteen year old with me. We watched it in 602 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: the Imax theater here in our town and it was 603 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: so fantastic. All three boys gave it well. Two of 604 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: the boys gave it a ten and my youngest gave 605 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: it a nine because he said he had trouble figuring 606 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: out which pilot was, which was in which airplane. He 607 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: wasn't fast enough you can read the call sign yeah 608 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: on the helmets. Uh. He's just you know, relatively young 609 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: reader as a first grader, So he was like I 610 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: sometimes got confused as to which pilot was which one um, 611 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: but the other three gave it a ten. He gave 612 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: it a nine. Everybody loved it. It was people were clapping. 613 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: It was completely not woke, no political agenda other than hey, 614 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: the United States is awesome, which I think there's a 615 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: desperate demand for. And it's a good two hours to 616 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: go take your family. If you're looking for something fun 617 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: to do, that's great. I already have. Uh, Carrie and 618 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: I are going on Friday. We've already we're gonna go. 619 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to one of the big theaters here 620 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: in New York City to go check it out. We're 621 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: excited about it. I've heard from as you know, her 622 00:32:53,560 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: father is a retired top gun naval aviator in so 623 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: you told us that he watched an early version of 624 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: this and said it was great for like two months ago. 625 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: Well for a top gun instructor to tell you that 626 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: the flying they do is really next level. Is that's 627 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: really saying something he says they did not see. They 628 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: did not see giat they were actually up in these planes. 629 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: I saw a stat I think it was on Fox 630 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: this morning that to fly the F eighteens, Uh, they 631 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: were spending it's eleven thousand dollars and I think it's 632 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: in an hour, which actually a little less than I 633 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: thought it would be. But they had to the Navy 634 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: had to be reimbursed for the cost. They really were 635 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: flying those planes. It's the place, it's actual flying that 636 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: you're seeing. They go very close to the hard top, 637 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: very low, flying fifty feet in some places from the ground. 638 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's uh. You make one, you know 639 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: you you blink and you're in the dirt from what 640 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: I Again, I'm not a pilot, but this is what 641 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: this is what he said, So that part of it 642 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: I think is exciting, But it also speaks to, uh, 643 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: I think Clay, the broader trend that you've identified and 644 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: we can all feel now. I mean, Netflix is just 645 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: gotten annihilated as a stock. By the way, I have 646 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: no longer a Disney plus subscriber no longer a who 647 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: lose subscriber about to cancel Netflix, by the way, because 648 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: the f one show is over. The only guy I 649 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna watch Stranger Things season four. I couldn't even get 650 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: through the last season. I like the first I love 651 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: the first season, and I even liked the second season. 652 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: But the third season, I was just like, I don't 653 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: really see what's going on here. So I'm not a 654 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: not a huge Stranger Things fan. I gotta keep I 655 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: gotta keep Amazon Prime because I got my Yellowstone. I 656 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: gotta get through Clay because you got me onto that one. 657 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: By the way, about one hundred and fifty pages into 658 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: Undaunted Courage, it's good. I'm now I'm double I'm sort 659 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: of you know, double timing it with that and the 660 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: Keegan history of the First World War. It is very 661 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: good and I agree with your sentiment. This will made 662 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: me think of it that it would be an excellent Uh, 663 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: you could make this into a fantastic series, I think 664 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: more than a movie. Yeah, you need to do a series. 665 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: It has to be like a multi year series. I mean, 666 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: this should be an I mean, if Netflix was serious 667 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: about making great entertainment that people would love it would 668 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: make them subscribe or Amazon on Prime or any of 669 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: these companies that have so much money to do this stuff. 670 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: They'd make a Lewis and Clark series and make it 671 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: really good and really show us. I think it would 672 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: be the biggest hit of any streaming ever. Like, I 673 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: think that's how popular it could be. People want to 674 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: see stories that are inspiring, cool heroes, good guys, bad guys, 675 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: and yeah, and this country want to see stuff that 676 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, at least makes us generally feel good about 677 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: America and being Americans and everything else. It is for 678 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: entertainment purposes, right, I just feel like everything has turned 679 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: into an opportunity for a political lecture in entertainment these days. 680 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: And it's it's tiresome. It's really really enough people view 681 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: it as tiresome that I hope the marketplace is going 682 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: to start to take it in a different direction. Now. 683 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Part of it truly just a marketplace decision. If everybody 684 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: else is making shows and movies and they just constantly 685 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: are selling the idea that America sucks, our history is 686 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: indefensibly bad, and you just pivot and say, you know 687 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: what I want to make and America is awesome. Movie 688 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: or in America is awesome television show. There's a desperate 689 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: demand for it right now. I just I feel it. 690 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: I can. I can pick up on it even Memorial Day. 691 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you felt it. I felt 692 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: like there's almost more flags out than than I'm used 693 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: to in the past, like so many people want to 694 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: be aggressively pro America and patriotic and aren't being served 695 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: by the marketplace. I'm gonna see it on Friday, give 696 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: you my give you my review, and uh you know, 697 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm this this book recommendation thing, claide We're gonna 698 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: put on clanbuck dot com. It's gotta go both ways here, buddy. 699 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: So I got some in mind for you, The Shackleton 700 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: Voyage Endurance. Yeah, I would love to read that. That's 701 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm in fact jotting that down. You talked about that before. 702 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: It is a crazy story about the voyage of Ernest 703 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: Shackleton uh down in Antarctica. I highly highly recommend anybody 704 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: who hasn't seen that. We'll put this up. I'm buying 705 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 1: it today. I just jotted that down Endurance. I'm gonna 706 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: buy it today. I'll start reading it when he gets here. 707 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck books because I can't say Clay's wreck 708 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: on Undoc and Courage is fantastic. Folks, We'll have news 709 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: for you, analysis, life, commentary, movie and book recommendations. All 710 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: of that tomorrow and the rest of the week. Talk 711 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: to you then. Pleat Travis and Buck Sexton on the 712 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: front lines of truth.