1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature, feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: and today on the show, it's Creature. We we're bringing 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: you some spooky species, some foolish genuses, tales that will 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: chill you to the beat, and boat from undead fish, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: tailor rodents and flying zombies. These real stories will send 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: shivers down your spine if you have one. Discover this 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: and more as we answer the age old question can 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: you still be fashionable? From beyond the gray? Joining me 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: today is front of the show, one of the maniacal 11 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: minds behind the website one nine hundred Hot Dog and 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: co host of the podcast The Dogaga the Zone, Robert Brockway. 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, thank you for pronouncing all of the letters. 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Nobody ever does that, and I'm offended every time you did. 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: Forget nine thousand. We put a nine thousand on there 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: to make it extra hard to search. 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: As anyone who listens to this podcast can attest to them. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm great at pronouncing things, especially Latin names for stuff, 19 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: and it comes out as a beautiful letters and vowel. 20 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: Salad from my mouth. 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: Dogus zonicus from the Latin for the area of dogs. Yes, exactly, exactly, 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: thanks for having me for a spooky spook aween. 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Spook aween. I should have called you Rob Boot. There 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: it is. Remember when we all did that with our names. 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: That was fun. That was innocent times. 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: That was Twitter right before uh, before it fascism. 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, a more innocent time. There's there's uh, there is Sean. 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: I guess I'll let them in. Oh yeah, just let 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: him in. I don't know if he's here. He says 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: he's here, but it's just it's his ghost, his spooky ghosts. 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Oh, that's what he's doing. He's doing a bit. 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: He's doing a spooky ghost bit. I feel like we're 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: gonna find we're gonna reading the newspaper that he died, 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: but he joined the podcast after he died. 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: Who was Shawn Baby? That's a game. I haven't heard 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: a ny on twenty years. Has been dead the whole time. 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: There hasn't been a Shoen Baby here since the Great 38 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Bloodening of nineteen eighty seven. 39 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Some say you can still hear him out there on 40 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: that old innet. 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: What's this we've got. I'm sensing something. It's coming through 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: through the fog of my seance globe with my crystal ball. 43 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: A figure emerges. Who is this? Is this the other 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: co host of the podcast, the Dogoga his own and 45 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: one of the other their maniacal minds behind the website 46 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: one nine hundred Hot Dog. Could this be the legendary 47 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: ghost whisper ghost Tickler shambaby dot com. 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm I'm the legendary ghost tickler. That's what people 49 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: know me as. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: back to tickle the ghosts. 51 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we we we are truly shocked. We reached 52 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: out to you through this stance. I thought it was 53 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: a scam, but here you are. 54 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: You have to do it in a ghost voice whole podcast, 55 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: ghost voice, ghost. 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: Voice wherever that tickles Sean booms, sham boo, baby, Welcome, Welcome. 57 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: We are talking about spooky animals on this podcast this 58 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: time on account of it being the spookiest Halloween of all. Thanks. 59 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: They like getting tickled. 60 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ghost Tickler on to catch a ghost where 61 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, ghosts, why do you have a seat 62 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: over here? I'm gonna tickle you. 63 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, uh, this zemas for me? I 64 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: was here to show them the dangers of drinking six 65 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: Semas by yourself. 66 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. Rest in peace God. I forgot 67 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: that guy's name, Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen, he's still or 68 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: are you. 69 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: Talking about one of the predators you're touching? Butts that 70 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: that was the man's name he had I legally changed. Yeah, 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: we all should have seen it coming. 72 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Ripping piece. I love those funny tombstones they put up 73 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: on Halloween where they're like ripping' peace mister. But Yeah, 74 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: see more asses. 75 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some of those in our neighborhood. 76 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 77 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: I meet a lot of squares now as a parent, Yeah, 78 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: there's a lot of You know, it's hard to like 79 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: pick your friends group when when all your kids go 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: to the same school, and so some of my daughter's 81 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: friend's parents are like, oh, yeah, I gotta see are 82 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: zany tombstones this year? 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever gone to a haunted 84 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: house where they put out bowls of cold spaghetti and 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: they're like, ooh too terrifying spaghetti. 86 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: As a ghost ticker, I legally am not allowed near 87 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: a bowl of cold spaghetti. 88 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Have you ever just busted the fuck up at one 89 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: of those tombstones, like you want to be too good 90 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: for it because you're a comedian. 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: But then you're like, no, never classic cl The second 92 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: I felt that coming on, I would kick it over. 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I split my guts open. And when I saw tombstone 94 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: and it said, uh, here lies the ghosts dead person, 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: mister Butts. 96 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: That one's pretty good. 97 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: That one's yes, that is good. 98 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Today we are square test and I caught both of you. 99 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, today we are talking about animals 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: who are spooky, spooky ghosts. We are first gonna talk 101 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: about a fish that can do skin magic from beyond 102 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: the grave. This is based on a great article in 103 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the New York Times by Elizabeth and Brown or should 104 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: I say Elizabeth and boo around. Okay, I'll stop that 105 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: starting now. So, this is a fish called the hogfish, 106 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: the humble hogfish it is. It is a fish that 107 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: can do necrotic skin magic. 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: So doing some hog hogskin magic on this fish. 109 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Hogskin magic, uh, tossing the old hogskin fish around. So 110 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: hogfish are found in the Atlantic Ocean. They are a 111 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: species of wrass that is this sort of patchy cream 112 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: and rusty orange color. It is a boxy, flat, sort 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: of trapezoidal shape with long dorsal spines. It's called a 114 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: hogfish due to an elongated hog like snout, which it 115 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: uses as a shovel to dig for small crustaceans in 116 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: the ocean floor. They're not small fish. They can grow 117 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: to be around twenty five pounds that's around the eleven kilograms, 118 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: and they can grow over three feet long, which is 119 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: almost a meter, So you know, they are interesting fish. 120 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: I have sent you a photo of this fish. It 121 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: is on its own, not that scary unless you're scared 122 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: of fish, in which case it is pretty scary, given 123 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: that it is a fish. 124 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: Definitely definitely scared of fish, especially especially hogfish. 125 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. The face is a little unsettling. You 126 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: don't like that scene in Beetlejuice where Alec Baldwin kind 127 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: of like stretches his face out. It looks a little 128 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: like that. 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: He looks almost exactly like the guy that did piercings 130 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: at the at the Central Organ Mall in nineteen ninety seven. 131 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: He's got the three little spikes, the weird beady eyes, 132 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: big old. 133 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: Guy that did your belly button. 134 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and amongst amongst other things. 135 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: Did he Did he do a good job or did 136 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you get like a belly button infection? 137 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Well, the belly button was fine. He actually did a 138 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: piercing called the hogfish. Ah, yeah, that's that's left over. 139 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: I lost some sensitivity that was big in the eighties. 140 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: So you know, this fish, it's uh, you know, pretty 141 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: typical fish stuff. But they can I mean, they're interesting 142 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: because when they are born, all hogfish are female, and 143 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: they are what is called a sequential hermaphrodite, meaning they 144 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: will change their sex as they mature, depending on environmental conditions. 145 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: So they become male when they become large, or when 146 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: there is a political opportunity such as there being no 147 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: dominant males in the group, and then they become they 148 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: switch their sex from female to male and becomes it 149 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: become a dominant breeding male. So you know, this is 150 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: so far typical fish stuff. 151 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Very normal, very normal stuff for Yeah, exactly, like mayor 152 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: a political opportunity. 153 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: I used to do the same thing in the fraternity. Yeah, 154 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: sometimes convenient. 155 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Look you know what they elect, they elect their mayor 156 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and then it becomes sexually male. 157 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: So exactly, I triple in size, Yeah, I get much 158 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: more masculine. 159 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, get uh you start like, uh being interested in sports? 160 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: Is that? 161 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: Is that a guy thing? 162 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: What I like to do for my sports? I like 163 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: to take my snout and dig in the ocean floor. Yeah, 164 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: and then I'll eat crabs. 165 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, such a guy thing. 166 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: So with the with the bros. 167 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: So another interesting thing these fish do is they change 168 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: their color. They can change the color of their skin 169 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: in seconds, from say, being a patchy, rusty orange to 170 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: brown to white depending on their surroundings. Surroundings, they will 171 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: change the skin color. 172 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: I have a fish question. Can they mix and match? 173 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: Can you be like I'm going to be a rusty 174 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: lady today or a white fella? Is? Are you locked in? 175 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: Always easier on the white fellas, always easier? 176 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean they they're The ability to change 177 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: their color and their sex are not really super related. 178 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: They can both change their sex and change their color. 179 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Changing their sex is more of a like permanent thing, 180 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: a change that they will undergo if there is a 181 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: male power vacuum. Changing their color is something they can 182 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: do anytime pretty much, and they do it to camouflage 183 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: with their environments, so trying to blend in, so you know, 184 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: they they can't. Unfortunately, they can't like switch back and 185 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: forth between male and female whenever they want within seconds. 186 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: But that would be rad and. 187 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: It would be I love that it works, like like 188 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: picking classes in Overwatch. Like just nobody's nobody's playing Boy. Really, 189 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: nobody's playing Boy, right, I guess I'm not good at Boy. Yeah, 190 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: we need one Boy. 191 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: We need one Boy. Does anyone want to play Boy 192 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: this time? 193 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: You know it's not fun. 194 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: I played Boy last time. 195 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: It's your turn play first playing Overwatch. I was just 196 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: this is just like being a fish. Been there. 197 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so they can change much about themselves. Again, 198 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: this is not like particularly unusual for a marine life. 199 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: There is there are a lot of marine animals that 200 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: can change their skin color, although this is not super 201 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: common for fish. And what is odd is that researchers 202 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: have noticed that hogfish are able to change their skin 203 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: color from beyond the grave. So this is where I 204 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: get spooky from a watery grave because this is the 205 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: ocean and it's. 206 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: All watery grave by rusty hog. 207 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: So a marine biologist Lorian Skware god no waker Lorian 208 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: Schweikert noticed a speared hogfish on the deck of a 209 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: fishing boat was still able to change its skin color 210 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: to match the deck of the boat upon which it 211 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: was impaled. 212 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, did we check her for paint scientists? You 213 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: can't trust him, that's what they tell me in church. 214 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was, I believe there was. This must have 215 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: been in the eighteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds. There 216 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: was like some experiment with like mouse skin, grafting skin 217 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: up from one mouse to the other mouse. But then 218 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: it turned out they just colored the mice with like 219 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: a pin, so they colored them black markings on the mouse. 220 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: So that does happen sometimes. 221 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's where Steven Sagall learned his hairline. 222 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. He glues mice to the front of 223 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: his face. 224 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Right, it's like face off, but you just kind of 225 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: scribble in those those Nicholas Cage eyebrows. 226 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Over your own face. 227 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: This straw Nicholas cage face in sharpie on your face. 228 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: Special effects. 229 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, fortunately this seems to be absolutely real. She 230 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: and a group, this marine biologist Lareens Swikert and a 231 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: group of researchers studied the skin and found that underneath 232 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: the chromatophores, so chromatophores are color changing cells. Underneath these chromatophors, 233 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a cell type that contains light detecting proteins, So 234 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: this is the first time that light detecting cells have 235 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: been identified in the skin of a vertebrate, a vertebrate 236 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: being something that's got a spine. It is similar to 237 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: the light detecting cells found in the skin of cephalopods 238 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: like squid like octopus is colofish, but this is the 239 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: first time these kinds of cells have been found in 240 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: a vertebrate, and the positioning of the light sensory cells 241 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: underneath the chromatophors may be strategic. So the chromatoph these 242 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: color changing cells are typically a reddish brown color, which 243 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: may filter out the abundant blue light in the ocean, 244 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: and by filtering the excess blue light, they may be 245 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: more able to accurate the light detecting cells underneath. The 246 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: color changing cells may then be able to accurately detect 247 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: the color of their surroundings with this blue light filter 248 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: and be able to better match the coloration where they 249 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: are and camouflage better. 250 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: And this works completely independent from like the fish that 251 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: it's living on. 252 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: This is what's weird, right, So after the fish dies, 253 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: even though the brain has ceased to function. These cells 254 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: continue to function for some time before cellular decay takes place, 255 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: so an effect, the skin lives on longer than the 256 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: actual fish. 257 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: So science says the skin it's haunted. 258 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: It's haunted, haunted, fish. 259 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: Taken away from this. 260 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if I was to make a tow pay 261 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: of this fish skin, I could have like hair that 262 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: just changed color. Yeah, for are we talking like hours? Days? 263 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: The rest of my I don't know how long your 264 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: fish skin to pay would last, whether it be hours 265 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: or days. I would say not that many days, and 266 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: it would certainly would offer a kind of unique perfume. 267 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: But otherwise I think it'd be very fetching. 268 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: But for a special night out, like it would last 269 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: through that. 270 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: For a special night out, Like, well, that's. 271 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: Good, it's good news. You're giving me great news, Kating. 272 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you want a color changing fish skin 273 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: to pay for a special night I'm not gonna say 274 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: you can't do that. We actually have used fish skin 275 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: to treat burns in human beings. So like using fish 276 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: skin that has been especially treated, you know, and I 277 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: believe disinfected, and then you put the fish skin over 278 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: a burn wound. The fish skin helps to lock in 279 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: moisture and help with healing by being sort of a 280 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: a It's almost like a better bandage that is more 281 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: gentle on damaged skin. So you know, is there a future, right? 282 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: Is there a future in which we can choose instead 283 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: of having like a wig or to pay to graft 284 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: fish skin onto our heads and maybe keep it alive 285 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: with our own blood supply without violently rejecting it. Maybe 286 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: we are going to take a quick break while I 287 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: called police, and when we get back, we are going 288 00:17:51,880 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: to talk about carnivorous mice. So you guys remember that 289 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: book bunicular about the vampire bunny. Yes, that book was 290 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: kind of unsatisfying to me because I think it was 291 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: like the cat was paranoid about this vampire bunny and 292 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: kept trying to kill it, but because it's a cat, 293 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: it was stupid. So it thought like a steak meant 294 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: like a surloin type steak, and like put a steak 295 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: on top of the bunny and the bunny was like 296 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: what And then it was like, hey, you were too judgmental, cat. 297 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: But also it's vague about whether or not the bunny 298 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: is a dracula, so I don't know. I didn't understand 299 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: the books so well. But the point, yeah, the point 300 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: is there are mice that are basically like carnivorous vampires 301 00:18:53,320 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: that are actually causing mass destruction and killing innocent bird birds. 302 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Can we prove those birds are innocent? 303 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: You know, birds are innocent and help proven guilty, Robert. 304 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: Your nanny bird state ethics. 305 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm just being justice simple bird lawyer. But 306 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: I thought in the country of the United States, birds 307 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: was innocent. 308 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: Toll prove all birds are guilty. 309 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Actually, this is not happening in the United States. This 310 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: is happening and Marion Island, it's a small island south 311 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: of the tip of Africa. In the eighteen hundreds, French 312 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: seal hunters trapesed about this Marian island and went about 313 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: killing seals, disrupting things, making croissants out of like, I 314 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: don't know, seals, I guess. And they brought with them 315 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: French house mice who quickly started running around the island 316 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: and you know, making themselves real comfortable. And now they 317 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: are still invasive on these islands. Even though this island 318 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: is not inhabited by humans, it is still inhabited by 319 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: the mice that the French sailors left on the island. 320 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Colonialist vampire mice. Yeah, no, word of mice. 321 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: No mouse is an island, but a bunch of mice 322 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: can be on an island and be vampires. So yeah, 323 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: I have a cross stitch live laugh vampire mice. So 324 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: warm weather has caused the invasive mouse population to explode, unfortunately, 325 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: not explode as in a fiery combustion, but to explode 326 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: in number. And the mice must compete for food with 327 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: a limited supply of plants and insects, so they have 328 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: started to devel a taste for blood, for the blood 329 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: of birds. 330 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Does anybody have a vampire mouse? Impressed? I don't have that. 331 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't have that. 332 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: Blood. I am a mouse. I don't belong on this island. Blo. 333 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: It's me Mickey mouse pire, and I want to suck 334 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: your blood and soon. 335 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, go to suck your blood. 336 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: And then sue you. 337 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: Now in Francis, litigious colonialists, vampire mouse, you sue you, 338 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: exploding ligious. 339 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: So yes, these mice, uh what I said, Travian madam? Okay, 340 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: So these mice uh want to feed on the blood 341 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: of these poor birds, these sea birds. There are millions 342 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: of sea birds who live and breed on the island, 343 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: including albatross, is School's King penguins, Gintwo penguins, crawls is shags, 344 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: and many more. Uh so a lot of sweet, cute 345 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: yeah penguins. 346 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: When you said they're drinking bird blood, I was like, 347 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: I don't care, go crazy mice. But now you're talking 348 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: king penguins. 349 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: No, now it's pain. 350 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: Something has to be done, Yeah, something has to be done. 351 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: There's something about penguins where it's like, I think humans 352 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: are so biased towards bipeds. We're like, you walk on 353 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: your two feet and you don't. 354 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: They're tummy, which is even cuter. 355 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: You got a tummy. Any any animal that has a tummy, 356 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: we empathize with animal. 357 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: Any animal that wears a suit, that wears a little 358 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: suits and you can dress up. Then you're you're okay, my, 359 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: I mean. 360 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: Every day is a black tie event for these tummy 361 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: sliding best friends. 362 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I think the tummy theory is strong, right because some 363 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: of our most hated animals, like wasps, have the opposite 364 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: of a tummy, and so we don't like them. But 365 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: they got a tummy, then we like them. So yeah, 366 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: these are cute birds and it's an important area for 367 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: them to breed in. And so, uh, the fact that 368 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: these mice have developed a taste for bird blood is bad. 369 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: And you might be asking, how does a mouse eat 370 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: a bird to death? Well, it does it very slowly 371 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: and horribly. So the mice will attack chicks or I 372 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: got this. 373 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: If they merge to form one man shaped mouse, yeah, 374 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 3: and grab it with its swarm of mouse, a swarm 375 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: of mice mocking our human hands. 376 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: I like the logic of the mouse forming like a human, 377 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: giant human shape. Like it's They're like, what's what's more 378 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: powerful than one mouse? It's a bunch of mice. What's 379 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: more powerful than a bunch of mice? A human made 380 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: out of a bunch of mice? And then we just 381 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: punched the birds. Well, that would almost be more humane 382 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: than what these mice do. So the mice will attack 383 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: these birds. They attack both adults and chicks, and they 384 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: will just chew away at the bird's skin over days. 385 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, like the mouse can just like chew away 386 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: at a bird. And the birds have not co evolved 387 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: with these mice, so they don't really know what to do. 388 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: And it's not like these are some of the more, 389 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: how do I put this gently? These aren't the brightest birds. 390 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: These aren't like, you know, I talk a lot about 391 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: how smart parrots and corvids are. These are you know, 392 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: they're sweet, they are cute, but maybe they're not the 393 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: most intelligent birds out there. 394 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: And so how would these birds know that they don't 395 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: like their skin being eaten. They've never had the opportunity, yeah, 396 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 2: in their evolution to have their skin eaten, so they 397 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: don't know not to like it. 398 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: Of course I saw I think it was a David 399 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: Attenborough special where it was one of those snakes that 400 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: has like a bugtail, and so he's like wiggling his 401 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: little bugtail. Birds like, oh hey, look at that delicious bug. 402 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: And the bird comes over to get the bug, and 403 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: the snake bites it and totally whiffs, and like the 404 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: birds like did that did the back end of that 405 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: bug just turn into a giant snake and try to 406 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 3: bite me? And then it sat there hovering, and then 407 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 3: it went back to get the bug. Like that's how 408 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: dumb birds are. 409 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, some birds. Look, we can't generalize to all. 410 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: Birds, but some birds hashtag not all birds. 411 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Hashtag not all birds, but yes, all all fish are 412 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, like they they Yeah, but actually that that 413 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: snake you're talking about is a viper that lives in 414 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: the mountains of Iran, And. 415 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: It's cool that I remember that on these birds. 416 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: It's cool. I remember that about it, but I don't 417 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: remember the name of it. But it is a snake 418 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: that has a tail that looks kind of like a spider, 419 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: and then it wiggles it around and then a bird 420 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: will like be like, ooh, spider, and then the snake 421 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: tries to get it, and it's like, oh, that was scary. 422 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: Ooh a spider, and then the snake tries to get 423 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: it again. 424 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's super easy mode if you already have 425 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: a spider tail, I feel like you already have one up. 426 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: And then the fact that the bird does not care 427 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: if you like miss a few times while you're fighting 428 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: at him. 429 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Spooky, come on, spooky. Halloween tip if you just have 430 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of like fake spiders in your pockets, you 431 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: can just throw them at people and escape, Like if 432 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: you're in a tough. 433 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: Situation and something, the birds attack them. 434 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're like, uh, spiders, Now you've got 435 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: spiders on you. Then you have time to get away 436 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: while all the birds try to eat those spiders smart yeah, 437 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: so uh yeah. The mice will basically just like sneak 438 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: up on a bird while it's asleep and start chewing 439 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: on its skin. And even if the bird like wakes 440 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: up eventually, essentially the mice kind of breaks the Geneva 441 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: conventions like the the like they commit war crimes by 442 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: continually disrupting the bird's sleep until the bird is just 443 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: so exhausted that it kind of like it can no 444 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: longer like keep waking up and trying to knock the 445 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: mouse off, and so the mouse just like choose its 446 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: skin off. I have I've sent you a photo, the 447 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: most sort of the least gory photo I could find 448 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: of this of a mouse just sitting on one of 449 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: these birds attacking it. 450 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: I get this dock. I'm actually really glad I didn't 451 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: get this. 452 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: It's it's a photo of a mouse sitting on the 453 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: head of an albatross chick. It looks like and what 454 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: it's doing is it is eating its scalp off. You 455 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: can't really you can't really see that in this photo, 456 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: but I have looked at the other photos where it's 457 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: essentially this poor little bird that's been scalped by a mouse. 458 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Because like when I when I first read about these 459 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: mice where it's like, yeah, these mice like bite these birds, 460 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm like imagining sort of just like little bite marks 461 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: on the bird. I was not imagining a bird just 462 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: having an entire chunk of skin missing in this like 463 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: really horrific way. So uh it is uh actually kind 464 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: of disturbing. 465 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: And yet in this photo, if you have kind of 466 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: bad eyesight, which I do, uh, it just looks like 467 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: a bird cosplaying is dan rather. 468 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: Like it's got like a little just some hair piece. 469 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just got like a real nice quaft, 470 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: velvety kind of poof. 471 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 472 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: Are we sure it's not symbiotic? Where like the bird 473 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: just understands how good it looks? 474 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: Now are you asking? Was like, if this is a 475 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: ratituy situation where the ratituy is actually eating its scalp 476 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: as well as helping it cook food. 477 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with the ladies with like the bird. 478 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: Lady right with the bird ladies, like you know, yeah, 479 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: you gonna want to go on to ask her what 480 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: her name is? 481 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: Can I eat in an exchange a little bit of. 482 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: Skin surroundo de bergiak retitui. But he's also eating the 483 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: human head. 484 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Now that's the crossover I'd like to see. So, yeah, 485 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: they are a problem for these birds, and conservationists want 486 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: to get rid of these mice because, uh, you know, 487 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: they are actually a big threat to some of these 488 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: bird species on this island, and so they are trying 489 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: to They are going on like a big Tom and 490 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: Jerry style mouse hunt where they are they're they're they're 491 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: pulling out all the stops, they're they're they're, uh, they've 492 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: caught up Tom and been like, hey, Tom, what's some 493 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: of the ideas that they didn't let you use in 494 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: those cartoons because they were so heinous. Uh, so they 495 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: are us. They are using poisoned grain to try to 496 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: kill these mice, which is tricky because most of the 497 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: sea birds, while most of them actually eat fish, there 498 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: are some species that are more n wrists, so the 499 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: bird might eat the grain. So conservationists are actually collecting 500 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: the birds that eat grain, putting them in like protective 501 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: bird jail while they spread poison grain for the mice 502 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: to eat, and then once the once the mice have 503 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: presumably eaten the poison grain, then they release the birds 504 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: from from Protective Bird Jail. 505 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 2: So I was writing that all birds are guilty, I mean, 506 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: and they go to bird prison. 507 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: Look, I said, bird jail, and you're still presumed innocent 508 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: when when you're in jail you know nothing of bird law. 509 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: You know nothing of bird law, you were born into it. 510 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: So what happens? What happens if this doesn't work, if 511 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: the poison grain doesn't work, what's planned? B? 512 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Plan B? I don't know, Like I guess hammers. 513 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: See that's right, all the birds together into one big 514 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: bird to fight the big. 515 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: Mouse helmets for the birds helmets, and. 516 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: I feel like we've solved it. You take the hammers, 517 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: the birds have helmets. Just go crazy with the hammers. 518 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: Just drop hammers out of helicopters, do whatever you want, 519 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: because the birds have the helmets. You can't hurt a 520 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: bird right with a ham No, we're not onto something. 521 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: We'll get it. 522 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Have like uh have like a movie that's like mouse 523 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: film film for mice. Birds aren't going to be interested 524 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: in this movie. Then all the mice go to the 525 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: tiny mouse cinema and then. 526 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: You go quick where you drop hammers on. 527 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: Then you go Quentin Tarantino on it. 528 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: What about rat terriers. They're so adorable and I don't 529 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: know if you've ever seen a rat terrier go to town, 530 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: but they'll just grab a rat, shake it till it's dead, 531 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: and drop it. That's they have no more interest in it. 532 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: They don't want to eat it or present it to anyone. 533 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: They're just bread to murder rats. So I guess you'd 534 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: need to breathe smaller terriers, Like how adorable would that be? 535 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: Like a mouse terrier? 536 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know a rat terrier might 537 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: go after the mice, not the birds. Might not be 538 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: a bad idea, that's what mean? 539 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: You put cats in the island. The cats are gonna 540 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: kill all the birds, right, crazy idea? But a rat terrier? 541 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there accountable. 542 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: Butting serial killers onto the islands to take care of 543 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: all the rat terriers. 544 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: Right, okay, so then, but how do you get rid 545 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: of the butting serial killers? Then you've got to release 546 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: the flesh eating mice. 547 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: Now you've just four chan. You release a four chan 548 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: onto the island and they'll all become preoccupied with it 549 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: and will no longer venture outside to kill it. 550 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: Makes sense, all right, We've solved a good job boys. 551 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: Conservation achieved. We're going to take a quick break and 552 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: when we return, we're going to talk about flying zombies. 553 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: They fly now, they fly now, they fly now. All right, 554 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: we're about and we're talking about flying zombies. You know, 555 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: I feel like you're against him. I feel like the 556 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: zombie genre, the zombre has a lot of like iterations 557 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: of zombies, like these are these are zombie Nazis. This 558 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: is a zombie that you're in love with. This is 559 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: a storm trooper Nazi. Wait no, sorry, zombies storm trooper. 560 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: Agree too many hooks. Zombies have too many hooks. 561 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: A zombie Nazi storm trooper who you can fall in 562 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: love with, the whole zombie thing. But you know what, 563 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: I haven't seen I haven't seen flying zombies in movies yet, 564 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know, like just a zombie that can 565 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: Superman around. 566 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you're right. 567 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: That's the final frontier for just ringing every last drop 568 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: of content out of zombies. But there is actual zombie flies. 569 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: So probably a lot of you, and especially people who 570 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: listen to this show, or if you've seen or played 571 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: The Last of Us, you're probably familiar with cordyceps fungus 572 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: that infects ants and the ants go a little bit nuts, 573 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: a little batty, and then crawl away, and then the 574 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: cordyceps grows out of their bodies. Uh. And that's that's 575 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: all horrible We've are We've talked about that before. But 576 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: I've got another one for you. 577 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 578 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: There is a different type of fungus that attacks flies. 579 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: So the fungus uh Intomothora mooski, also known as insect destroyer, 580 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: infects a variety of flies, including house flies and fruit flies. 581 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean good, nobody likes those bugs. 582 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sweet name. I can't be against it. 583 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, insect destroyer, Yeah, no, just insect destroyer. 584 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: I would if I was marketing for the fungus, Like, 585 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: if the fungus hired me to mark, I would go 586 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: with insect destroyer in like a heavy metal font. 587 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was. 588 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: I would really. 589 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: Embrace if I saw a destroy if I had a bag. 590 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 3: My wife bought a uh one of those little plants 591 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: that pitcher plant the flies, and she is super pissed 592 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: off that it has not diminished the fly population. But 593 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 3: if I if I had a bag of fungus that 594 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: I could just release into the air, turn them on 595 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: the zombies just have three or four days of zombies. 596 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: Theoretically they would fungus. 597 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: That is how all zombie movies start, though I realize 598 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: that they're like if I could just release all of 599 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: this and get get rid of whatever I want to 600 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: get rid of, then surely everything will work. Oh no, zombies, 601 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: Like that's that is how you get zombies historically, Like, like, 602 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: that's how you get ants when you release sugar, that's 603 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: how you get zombies. 604 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Either you can either put some red wine vinegar in 605 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: a cup and then put plastic wrap on the top 606 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: and poke some holes in it, or you can release 607 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: this fungus. And the releasing of the fungus sounds a 608 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: lot more fun, although I feel like maybe by the 609 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: end of this you might have like a shred of 610 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: sympathy for these flies. 611 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: So first, okay, let's hear it. 612 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: Open your mind and your heart to the flies. First, 613 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: the fungus lands on a fly via spores. The spore 614 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: then invades the flies hemo lymph. So hemolymph is bug 615 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: blood essentially, so the fungus feeds on the flies hemo 616 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: lymph and fat tissue. Then the fly's mind is influenced 617 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: by the fungus, and it is driven to climb upwards 618 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: and upwards. Its body is riddled with the fungus. Then 619 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: it is induced somehow by the fungus. Now we researchers 620 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: don't know exactly how the fungus is doing this, but 621 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: the fly sticks out it's proboscis. That's its little two 622 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: blank mouth thing, the little like weird, tiny elephant trunk 623 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: thing that flies have that they use to suck up food. 624 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: It sticks this out onto the surface and it uses 625 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: this like sticky saliva that is probably infused with some 626 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: kind of sticky fungal compound. And this drool actually forms 627 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: like a glue, so it's glued from its like by 628 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: the mouth onto the surface that it's on. And so 629 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: now the fly is stuck. And then the fly is 630 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: for some reason compelled to extend its wings in this 631 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: like upright position that's kind of unnatural for it. And 632 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: now the fly has essentially become this fixed in place, 633 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: perfect substrate for fungus to grow and spread. And just 634 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: hours later the fly has grown this fluffy white coat. 635 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: And this coat is actually fungal filaments which will grow 636 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: spores at the tips. Importantly, the reason that the fly's 637 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: wings are now stuck in this like weird upright position 638 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: is to clear the way for the spores to fire 639 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: off of the fly's body. So now these spores that 640 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: are all growing out of the fly's body can basically 641 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: pop off like popcorn or fireworks and then hopefully land 642 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: on another victim who will go through the exact same thing. 643 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: Right, this is a nightmare. 644 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns It turns them into James Brown, kind 645 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: of like a you've been down, kiss the dirt, stick 646 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: your stick your legs up, stick your wings up. You 647 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: put on a big white fluffy coat. 648 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: The other guy comes in throws a cape on you. 649 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: You you got more to do, and that. 650 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: Cape infects and creates other James Brown's, as we well 651 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: know from history. Yeah, I'm on board with this so far. 652 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: I think this Whip's ad. 653 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 3: Would Team Fungus. 654 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: I think I think I'm agreed Team fungus. We're all 655 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 1: team fungus. I would like to see a zombie movie 656 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: where basically a zombie just sort of bites a wall 657 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: and then starts growing a coat and sticks its arms 658 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: out and like Superman position, and then the coat starts 659 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: like just shooting off spores that'd be fun, but. 660 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: It'd be a bit If I saw that, I'd be like, 661 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: this is a bit much zombies. 662 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, it's a little dramatic. 663 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: It's a little hannibal lector it's like Writtner's The Majesty 664 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: of My Death. You're like, take it easy. 665 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: I feel like the groaning and the moaning is already 666 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: a little mill dramatic, Like we get it, you're dead, 667 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: but you're moving around, understood. 668 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna sell a lot of popcorn 669 00:39:59,520 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 2: at that movie. 670 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 671 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: If if the theaters aren't gonna like it, they make 672 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: most of their money off of that. 673 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah're not gonna sell that. I like saw teed mushrooms, 674 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 3: like a nice cup of saw mushrooms. 675 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: Right, They're not gonna sell a lot of fungal spores 676 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: at the movie theater, if you know what I mean. 677 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: A couple of spores here, get you a couple of spores, 678 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: cold couple spores. I don't know why he's at a 679 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: movie theater. The all game was rattened down at the movies. 680 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: Now that's what that's what happens at modern cinema. Got 681 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: someone walking through the aisles screaming, yelling, yelling, hot dogs, 682 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: get your three D glasses and your fungle spores. 683 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 3: Watch out for Nicole Kidman. Her hair is being blown back. 684 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: Cinema, Yes, the magic of chinema. Well, so, yeah, this 685 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: is this is the fate of this poor little fly 686 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: gets turned into a mere vessel for the fungal spores 687 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: and it literally just has to like kiss the ground 688 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: and die. 689 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: Zero empathy for the flies. Still flies still don't like 690 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: the flies. 691 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: It's because it doesn't have a cute little tummy, isn't it. 692 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 2: No, it's because my adorable little dog is definitely afraid 693 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: of flies for no reason. We can determine that I'm 694 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: on her side. Yeah, this so if I could, if 695 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 2: I could release this fungus and encourage it to destroy 696 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: all flies. 697 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: I do it for her, one of the few insects. 698 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: I truly hate our tics because of them being mean 699 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: to my dog. Like, I'm like, how dare you beyond 700 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: my dog and hurt her. I will exact vengeance. You 701 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: will be contained in a bottle and drown in alcohol, 702 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: which sounds good, but trust me, it's not. 703 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 2: There are worst plays. 704 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: I guess it's rubbing alcohol. It's not like I drowned 705 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: them in a really nice sort of we don't. 706 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: Know have standards chocolate. We were all teenagers once. Uh. 707 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: Well listen before we go, uh, and you can go 708 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: about your ghoulish uh daily activities. We do got to 709 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: play a little game. It's called the mystery animal sound game. Uh, 710 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: guess who's squawking? Every week I play a spooky and 711 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: scary mystery animal sound and you the listener, and you 712 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: the kissed, try to guess who is squawking? 713 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 3: Uh. 714 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: So last week mystery animal sound hint was this, This 715 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: ferocious wild carnivore would eat you if only it didn't 716 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: fit inside your pocket. 717 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: I actually know this one. Yeah, that is a Hall 718 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 3: of Fame pitcher Randy Johnson. 719 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: Ah, how did you know? 720 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: No, that's not Maybe it's right in your pocket. It's 721 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 2: right in your pocket, little Randy. 722 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: Little Randy, little pucker. That's yeah. 723 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: And he would kill you if he had the chance. 724 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: Be so thankful, be thankful. He's so weet, blood thirsty. 725 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 3: He did kill a bird that one time with the ball. 726 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: Was that when he hit a bird with a ball. 727 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit a bird with a ball, and that. 728 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: Bird Uh presumed guilty before being proven innocent. 729 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 3: Yes, that bird bunch of trial, one appeal. 730 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: Jury and bird secutioner. No, this is not that sports 731 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: guy you just said. This is something else. This is 732 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: called the rusty spotted cat. Uh. It is the smallest 733 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: cat in the world. And it is totally it was 734 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: like the size of a kitten. 735 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 736 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: And yet it is a full grown wild cat. 737 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and you did not send us pictures. 738 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna google it. 739 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: Google it. You will be happy. 740 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 2: He's so cute, a little round ears in the big eyes. 741 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 2: And that's as big as they get. 742 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: That's as big as they get. That's it. They are 743 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: found in India and Sri Lanka and it is absolutely adorable. 744 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: Why did we pick other cats to keep? Why didn't 745 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: we just get this? 746 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: Why we get this cat? Yeah? I mean, you know, 747 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: I think we made a mistake. We need to go 748 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: back in time and instead of using a time machine 749 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: to like prevent some of the world's greatest atrocities, we 750 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: should go back in time and demesticate this little this 751 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: little guy. 752 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: I think that would prevent some of the world's greatest atrocities. 753 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: I don't think Hitler would have done what he did 754 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: if instead of the German shepherd. He had this tiny 755 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 2: little fella in. 756 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: His pocket, or this little cat was gonna kill baby Hitler. 757 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: You could wait in the Hitler's bunker with like fifteen 758 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 3: of these in your pockets. Yeah, very nice to see 759 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: you if you're and then boom, cats. 760 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 2: Cover him, whip out your trench coat and they all 761 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: just explode out of all the secret pockets of kiddies 762 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: that you have you have knit inside of there. 763 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they are. They are adorable. They are 764 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: indeed sort of rusty and spotty. They've got little streaks, 765 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: they've got little little white tummies. 766 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: They look like they can't wait to hear a secret. 767 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they look like they would sit on your shoulder 768 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: and whisper in your ear, like like heal him, heal 769 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: him for me, and. 770 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 3: You do it. 771 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: I would absolutely do if this little guy sat on 772 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: my shoulder telling me to go kill people at his whim. 773 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: Not gonna say I'm not going to do it. 774 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: As long as they're all hitlers. 775 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: As well as it's all hitlers, they're like, trust me, Hitler, there, 776 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: you must kill it like that looks that looks like 777 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: that looks like a normal person. No, definitely not you 778 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: should go kill him. 779 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 2: Goddamn it, Randy Johnson. This is the last time, little 780 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: Randy Johnson I have named my cat. 781 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, it likes to live in the forest. It 782 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: is very shy and in your pocket. No, Actually, that's 783 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: the sad thing is it's extremely shy. Probably the reason 784 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: that the our cats were domesticated from the African wild 785 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: cat is that the African wild cat is a little 786 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: more chill, a little more curious. This one is extremely shy, 787 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: probably because it's so small. You know, It's like, I'm 788 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: a little guy. I'm a little guy. 789 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: I gotta be shy, understand. 790 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll it'll eat it'll eat rodents, it'll eat birds, frogs, 791 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: insects and little one. Oh once. 792 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: Now, have you showed me a picture of this thing 793 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: on one of those big penguins just eating its skin. 794 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: I'd be much more compus. 795 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. I'd be like, you know what, 796 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll that you have it. You can take over the island. 797 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: So cute, I mean, that's essentially what we've done with cats. 798 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: Though we we were like, you're cute. You can be 799 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: invasive on this island, on this territory and kill all 800 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: the birds and indigenous species here. 801 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: If we could develop as we saddle small enough, we 802 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: could put that on the penguin slides kitty cat rides 803 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 3: in the penguin. 804 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. Look, I know that it's been 805 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: a mistake every single time we've introduced to species to 806 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 1: try to take care of another invasive species. Uh, mistake, 807 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: but maybe this time right. Because it's so small, I 808 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: don't see how it's going to eat an albatross and so, 809 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: but it's not so small that it couldn't eat a 810 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: mouse that's eating an albatross. You see where I'm going 811 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: with this. I know every single time we've done this, 812 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: it's had a terrible outcome. I think we should try 813 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: it again. 814 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 3: What's the worst that could happen? We lose some albatrosses 815 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 3: and get an island of adorable kittens. Yeah, just swarming 816 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 3: with kittens, the only life form left. Yes, four feet 817 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: deep wading through adorable kittens. 818 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: And the great thing is there's no kind of saying 819 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: about like running into a folly that has anything to 820 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: do with albatrosses. Like it's not like like when something 821 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: happens where it becomes a big problem for you. There's 822 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: no saying that visa via albatrosses. 823 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 3: So they're saying, is uh getting a day terrific job? 824 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: Right, that's the saying. 825 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: So on It's like my mom always said, like you 826 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: never trust, never trust a tiny kitten. The tinier the kitten, 827 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,240 Speaker 2: the less trust. 828 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 3: It's what she says. 829 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: Is that what your mother said? 830 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she had some medication problems. 831 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: Was this here, Like you came home from school one 832 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: day and you're like, I got I gotta be on 833 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,479 Speaker 1: my math test. She's like, never trusting kids. 834 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have been looking for them ever since. These uh, 835 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: these kittens that curse your math tests. 836 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, anyways, Uh moving on to this week's mystery 837 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: animals sound the hint is this when he's crabby, he's happy. 838 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 3: Kawasaki crack Tucket. 839 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I usually have tried. I usually try to 840 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: be coy about it of like maybe you're right, but no, 841 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: you're absolutely wrong. 842 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 3: I didn't get it the first history. 843 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 2: You won't be polite. 844 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: Politeness is earned, and boys, you haven't earned it. 845 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 3: Ah. So no that boarding Walrus skateboarding Walrus closer. 846 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: I guess, but you will find out the answer on 847 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: next time, on this very show, on next Creature on 848 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: Next Creature Feature Fellas, thanks for being on. I guess. 849 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: That's the They usually cut that part in the podcast, 850 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, we get that. We get that a lot. 851 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: It happens. 852 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. 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