Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show
Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season
Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules.
Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping Off with myself,
Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson.
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us because we're hilarious, because we are
Speaker 3: amazing at least we see.
Speaker 1: So we have two fans that would be us. We
Speaker 1: are each other's biggest fans. Oh my gosh, I got
Speaker 1: some dms after last week though, Emily.
Speaker 3: Oh oh was it the people that were mad at
Speaker 3: us for the LVP comments, Because that's what.
Speaker 2: I got, No, I got. You need to tell Emily
Speaker 2: she needs to be nicer to you. Oh really?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they said, Teddy, we just want you to
Speaker 1: know that even though you get so much hate, people
Speaker 1: really do like you. They and you can't let Emily
Speaker 1: tease you that way.
Speaker 4: And I was like, if you think that, Emily, the
Speaker 4: old people is the one that hurts me the most,
Speaker 4: you all got another thing coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah on the joke, folks, I'm all right, I mean,
Speaker 1: especially now that we have matching backgrounds in pink and blue.
Speaker 1: Like we it's equal banter. It goes both ways. I
Speaker 1: take it and give it. Yeah, we're both fond. We're
Speaker 1: equal opportunists, all right with giving each other heat. It's
Speaker 1: what gets us through vander Pump Rules. Because this week,
Speaker 1: more than ever, we have a lot. Most of the
Speaker 1: time we don't have that many headlines. We're just recapping
Speaker 1: the episode. But I feel like since last week there's
Speaker 1: been six hundred and twenty four thousand headlines that like
Speaker 1: even from Britney cart right, it's name changes. I'm exhausted.
Speaker 1: I know, it's a lot, a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot. Is there anything new that you'd
Speaker 1: like to report for us, just you know, prior to
Speaker 1: getting into it, just.
Speaker 2: In general, like in life? Yeah, in life?
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you feel like I need to
Speaker 1: know or that like we really need to like bond
Speaker 1: our friendship to the next level. No, I saw you
Speaker 1: just push your nose up like this, right? No?
Speaker 2: Nothing, okay, no life updates.
Speaker 1: I don't really have any life updates either, but no,
Speaker 1: who does have a life update? La? La?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, this is this is why we really
Speaker 2: work together.
Speaker 1: You you saw the person that are rundown and really where.
Speaker 2: I know where you were going. I get it. I
Speaker 2: follow this.
Speaker 1: Well, this all makes sense now because I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be going to Disneyland with Lala and Stassy and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it got canceled. Well at
Speaker 1: first it got rained out, and then it got canceled,
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, wonder why I got canceled. Now
Speaker 1: it makes sense. You don't want to go in the
Speaker 1: teacups pregnant.
Speaker 2: No, how far along is she do? We know?
Speaker 1: Well, far enough along that she has a little baby
Speaker 1: bump in this picture with ocean looking up, so like
Speaker 1: clearly you know she was probably in the first trimester
Speaker 1: during this Disney excursion. And then now that's why we
Speaker 1: had to cancel. But I mean, Dove has gotten through
Speaker 1: the hardships of missing Disneyland on her birthday in order.
Speaker 3: For see see that's what happens where you went wrong
Speaker 3: as you told her you were taking her to Disneyland right,
Speaker 3: and then you had to back out of it. That's
Speaker 3: why I've learned to just not tell kids anything anything,
Speaker 3: not anything, not good news, not bad news, nothing, because
Speaker 3: then when you have to change it, they just don't
Speaker 3: adapt and they just can't handle it so well. The
Speaker 3: good news is the day that I did tell her
Speaker 3: we couldn't go was because it was pouring down rain,
Speaker 3: and that she seemed since then to have forgotten of
Speaker 3: that promise, right, And then now she does slightly like
Speaker 3: give me little digs by saying things like Matteo from
Speaker 3: my class went to Disneyland this week, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's so nice for him. And then I just let
Speaker 3: it be, let it a ride, because I don't say
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not like, well we read booked yours, because
Speaker 1: clearly we didn't. Didn't. But Laala posted a picture on
Speaker 1: Instagram this Sunday showing off her baby bump, explaining in
Speaker 1: the caption I'm expanding my pod. She received a multitude
Speaker 1: of comments on this Instagram post, but the one that
Speaker 1: stuck out to most of the fans was a congratulatory
Speaker 1: message from Randall Emmett's ex wife, Amber child chat Childers,
Speaker 1: Amber Childers, Amber Childers, Amber Chielders.
Speaker 2: I think that's that why in there that's throwing you off.
Speaker 2: I mean it could be.
Speaker 1: I also thought our new sign said pooping off and
Speaker 1: I almost went when I got when I first got
Speaker 1: at the p's weren't lit up, so that I was
Speaker 1: like pooping off right on, Tad said, pooping off things
Speaker 1: are really makes it makes sense though, But Amber says, congratulations, mama,
Speaker 1: she wrote on Monday's episode of Give Them Laala podcast,
Speaker 1: she says what she was looking for in a sperm donor,
Speaker 1: I don't care about looks, Lalla said, adding that she
Speaker 1: did ask what the donor looked like physically. I was like,
Speaker 1: I would prefer that this baby kind of have the
Speaker 1: same aesthetic look as me and my mom in Ocean,
Speaker 1: so when they come into this world, it's not only
Speaker 1: like you don't have a dad because I got you
Speaker 1: from a donor, but you don't look like all those
Speaker 1: types of things. But then she said, my biggest thing though,
Speaker 1: is I did not want to see adult pictures. That
Speaker 1: makes it too real, too personal. Like sure, I can
Speaker 1: look at them as a little kid. That's cute, and
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I also don't need
Speaker 1: them to be extremely.
Speaker 2: Smart because I'm not.
Speaker 1: kN Stoner has it's like this could be me Ken'stoner
Speaker 1: has a tiny connection with her daughter Ocean as his
Speaker 1: favorite song and poem both had to do with the ocean.
Speaker 1: Upon her child's eighteenth birthday, the California Cryobank can give
Speaker 1: them access to their spoon donor.
Speaker 2: If they have questions and they.
Speaker 1: Want to go find their dad can explain, well, I
Speaker 1: have some questions for you, Emily. Would you want to
Speaker 1: see an adult picture?
Speaker 2: Because I would? Well, I would.
Speaker 3: I mean her first sentence when she says I don't
Speaker 3: care about looks, I feel like that would have been
Speaker 3: the thing that I care about, Like, let me see
Speaker 3: what this person looks like like, especially if you're going
Speaker 3: to say I don't care about smart. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 3: not care about either one. You can't be like I
Speaker 3: don't care what they look like and I don't care
Speaker 3: if they're smart.
Speaker 2: Then what so you got to pick one?
Speaker 1: I mean, I get you don't get to have oh,
Speaker 1: but like maybe you could have one.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, though, If you could
Speaker 3: have anyone as a sperm donor for your next child,
Speaker 3: who would you pick?
Speaker 2: Brad Pitt? Oh my god, that was we're trying to
Speaker 2: steal my sperm doughor bit.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Brad Pitt, listen, I feel like
Speaker 1: me and Brad Pitt would make really smart beautiful just kidding.
Speaker 1: Here's what we're gonna do. You have a kid with
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, and I'll I have a kid a Brad
Speaker 1: pit and then we'll compare. But are we going to
Speaker 1: compare who's cuter, who's smarter?
Speaker 2: Both? Shit? I mean, do your kids look more like
Speaker 2: you or Shane? Though? Well it depends because we have
Speaker 2: three together, so I think Annabelle is a mix of
Speaker 2: both of us. But then Luke looks just like Shane
Speaker 2: and Keller looks just like me, and Keller is beautiful.
Speaker 1: But I'm happy for her. I think that age gap
Speaker 1: is pretty great when you have little ones. If you
Speaker 1: have little ones together, it's perfect. I'm excited for her.
Speaker 1: But I do always wonder about sperm donors how much
Speaker 1: information I would need? Like and also, oh, this is
Speaker 1: what I was originally going to say. Okay, yeah, here
Speaker 1: it is here, it is back around all right? Do
Speaker 1: you get to specify if you want somebody that's funny
Speaker 1: and then who's making the decision if that person is
Speaker 1: actually funny or not?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you just are you clicking off something like I'm hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're just a checklist.
Speaker 1: It says are you and it's like personable, yes, funny,
Speaker 1: hell yeah I am.
Speaker 2: Are you an introvert or an extrovert? Extrovert? Do people
Speaker 2: like you? Yesk me all day long?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. Who is there is
Speaker 1: deciding factor in this? Like who is that person? Are
Speaker 1: you just willing nelly?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like you mean how intense is the vetting process? Like
Speaker 3: are they going through several interviews where other people are
Speaker 3: filling out the form like after an interview.
Speaker 2: Like not funny, not personable?
Speaker 1: Or are they just filling it out themselves like no
Speaker 1: actual self realization because they said they were funny and
Speaker 1: attractive and they're not. But also, is somebody checking their
Speaker 1: So if somebody's like, yeah, I'm really smart, I you know,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, is somebody actually going back and checking
Speaker 1: like yes they have this. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: a smart GPA is, so I can't even tell you,
Speaker 1: like a three point a GP, I'm assuming like people
Speaker 1: tend to say that, or a four point zero GPA. Like,
Speaker 1: but if somebody then like send me the paperwork, yeah,
Speaker 1: like give us a copy of your transcripts and your
Speaker 1: degree even though you're forty two years old, somebody as
Speaker 1: we want to high school transcripts at this point, how
Speaker 1: would one get it?
Speaker 2: How would you get it? Well, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: a lot older than you.
Speaker 3: I graduated from high school nineteen ninety four, So I
Speaker 3: feel like my transcripts are you know, disintegrated by now
Speaker 3: in a box in.
Speaker 1: A bar somewhere described they're in Braille. Yeah, they're like,
Speaker 1: let me send the Pony Express send those.
Speaker 2: Over to you.
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Speaker 3: Rachel Levis's case against Tom Sandable is weaker. I actually
Speaker 3: had to read the entire mache and understand what the
Speaker 3: headline even meant. So, Rachel, the headline is Rachel Levis's
Speaker 3: case against Tom Sandable is weaker than Ariano Mattos Okay?
Speaker 2: Is it US? I never know if it's US or
Speaker 2: US Weekly?
Speaker 1: You are lying, you know, don't you realize the camera
Speaker 1: this week said she didn't know what Deadline News was,
Speaker 1: and now you're saying you don't love it's US Weekly
Speaker 1: or US.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard.
Speaker 1: Somebody go to the airport and go, I'm going to
Speaker 1: pick up a US Weekly?
Speaker 2: No, it's US.
Speaker 3: Where Why am I at the at the airport listening
Speaker 3: to people ask for magazines?
Speaker 1: Where else do people ask for magazines these days? I
Speaker 1: don't know That's why I don't know what it's called,
Speaker 1: because I've never heard it. I get everything from the
Speaker 1: Instagram news, so I don't need to get US Weekly anymore.
Speaker 3: All Right's confirmed on Thursday that Love Us sued Sandoval
Speaker 3: and Maddox for revenge porn, eavesdropping, invasion of privacy, and
Speaker 3: intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of causes of action right there. That
Speaker 2: is a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: The case against Tom is actually weaker than the case
Speaker 1: against Ariana. Attorney Nima Ramani exclusively told US Weekly this
Speaker 1: is why under California is a revenge porn statue. There
Speaker 1: is a requirement that the porn be distributed. We know
Speaker 1: that Tom was allegedly participating in this face time. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on in the FaceTime? Okay, well they're masturbating
Speaker 1: or she's masturbating, allegedly, so she has her phone out
Speaker 1: on a FaceTime and then she's masked and he recorded it.
Speaker 1: He screamed, he did that without her knowing allegedly. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was pleasuring himself as well. There's
Speaker 1: been multiple different sides of this coming forward.
Speaker 2: But have you ever done that? Just curious. Have recorded myself? No,
Speaker 2: not recorded yourself? But have you ever lacerbated? Are you
Speaker 2: just asking that?
Speaker 1: I would hope you have, but no, have you ever
Speaker 1: done a FaceTime and masturbated?
Speaker 2: No? Well what I you have?
Speaker 1: I have not, but this is such a disgusting story.
Speaker 1: But I have to take you out and now Ione
Speaker 1: will probably sue me for revenge.
Speaker 2: More and sharing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a thing. But he was
Speaker 1: out of town and he called me, Like, Edwin very
Speaker 1: rarely gets drunk. I get drunk relatively often, but Edwin
Speaker 1: is like not that type. He gets drunk, and so
Speaker 1: he calls me. When he gets back to his room
Speaker 1: and he decides he thinks it's time for show and tell.
Speaker 1: So he starts doing his thing. But then he's so
Speaker 1: eft out of his mind. Wait, this is through a FaceTime.
Speaker 1: This is through a FaceTime. I recorded it. Great. So
Speaker 1: he's like talking to me, and I'm like at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm just like acting.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, get it, get after it never.
Speaker 1: Hotter, yeah, so turned on. Meanwhile I'm stone cold, Sobride
Speaker 1: just with the kids to bed. He was like in
Speaker 1: a different time zone, and then he masturbated onto the phone.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't believe you're telling the story. You're getting
Speaker 3: divorced after this. I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know. He's gonna file for divorce
Speaker 2: after he hears this.
Speaker 5: I'm like, absolutely, and listen, I understand there's oversharing. Last
Speaker 5: week we talked about shooting ourselves. Today we're talking about this.
Speaker 1: But then the point is, it's like normally when you
Speaker 1: do bad things, you don't really want to talk about
Speaker 1: it the next day. I don't worry this first thing
Speaker 1: I did. When he called me the next morning, I
Speaker 1: was like, remember last night when you came on your phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't ever work.
Speaker 1: He was like, huh ah shit.
Speaker 2: I hope he sanitized it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never used his phone since. But
Speaker 1: the point is I didn't actually record it, but something
Speaker 1: was happening like that they were record Tom was recording it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was doing well. Then Arianna
Speaker 1: saw it and that was the reason for their breakup. Right.
Speaker 3: So Tom was allegedly participating in the spacetime and he
Speaker 3: may have recorded it, but it's unclear whether he's sent
Speaker 3: it to anyone. The allegations are that Ariana got access
Speaker 3: to Tom's phone and sent it to herself and to Rachel,
Speaker 3: So that would be the distribution part, which then goes
Speaker 3: back to the headline why the case against Sandobal is
Speaker 3: weaker than Arianna because she was actually Ariana, because she
Speaker 3: was the one that actually distributed. Of course we don't
Speaker 3: know who has the video and who it all.
Speaker 2: Was sent to.
Speaker 1: But in the law in the suing, what is it
Speaker 1: called when you get sued? In the document it says
Speaker 1: there was over fifty Jane does it was sent to?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's just because those are like placeholders
Speaker 2: in case they find evidence that more people like it
Speaker 2: was sent to, more than that they know of at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: Well, from the beginning, even last season when this was
Speaker 1: talked about, Ariana has always remained vigilant about the fact
Speaker 1: she didn't share it with anybody.
Speaker 2: She caught it, you know, they were at.
Speaker 1: The concert, at Tom's concert, she got the phone, she
Speaker 1: saw it, she flipped out, she called Rachel. She never
Speaker 1: sent it to anyone, She never showed anybody. I do
Speaker 1: think if there were snippets of it, it would have
Speaker 1: ended up online. And the fact that it didn't leads
Speaker 1: you know, I hate to give arian a shot on things,
Speaker 1: but I really don't think she shared it with a
Speaker 1: bunch of people because then I went back and watched
Speaker 1: Jeff Lewis with Lala last year. She said she never
Speaker 1: saw it. Shina said she never saw it, so at
Speaker 1: this point, but she said it to herself, So she
Speaker 1: sent it from his phone to herself. Right, we don't
Speaker 1: have one hundred percent confirmation on that. We solely know
Speaker 1: she saw it on Tom's phone. She's saying on this
Speaker 1: podcast with Sheena that after that she was I saw
Speaker 1: five seconds of five seconds of it.
Speaker 2: I didn't need to see more.
Speaker 1: And then I wonder if that was me and it
Speaker 1: was somebody was cheating on me and there was a video,
Speaker 1: Like would you watch the entire thing?
Speaker 2: No, No, you.
Speaker 1: Just watch enough to catch them. Yeah, but would you
Speaker 1: send it to anybody?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I probably would send it to like
Speaker 1: my closest friends.
Speaker 3: And be like, I feel like she had to send
Speaker 3: it to someone. Your natural reaction would be to send
Speaker 3: it to someone and be like, look what I just found.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Like I mean you're just sitting there with
Speaker 1: what you saw on your own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had to have sent it to someone.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to revenge porn, do you think
Speaker 1: even if Ariana did send it to a friend saying,
Speaker 1: can you believe this is she guilty of a crime
Speaker 1: or do you think Rachel is just using the legal
Speaker 1: system as a retaliatory tactic rather than actually feeling like
Speaker 1: Arianna has wronged her.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. If she was recorded doing something
Speaker 3: sexual without her knowledge then and it got distributed to
Speaker 3: other people, then I mean, I feel like that fulfills
Speaker 3: the statute or revenge born. I'd be pissed. I mean
Speaker 3: I would be pissed too.
Speaker 1: But I also, unlike my husband, have never masturbated on
Speaker 1: a FaceTime Yeah, I mean neither. But also I have
Speaker 1: another question. Is it like snapchat? Where if you because
Speaker 1: I feel like it did alert Edwin when I was
Speaker 1: attempting to try to screen record it, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know how because I'm not very good on the phone.
Speaker 2: But you made it give him a notice? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did it give Rachel a notice when he went to
Speaker 1: screen grab or record what was happening? Like, don't you
Speaker 1: get a notice when that happens?
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I don't think anyone's ever tried
Speaker 3: to screen grab a FaceTime because I'm just not that interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like I'm like, yeah, you're right, You're
Speaker 1: not You're yeah, You're like no, I yeah, clearly, clearly.
Speaker 1: But do you do you think this is similar to
Speaker 1: the restraining order she got against Shena, Like remember she
Speaker 1: filed one against Shena before the reunion that then ended
Speaker 1: up getting dropped. Do you think she's doing this for
Speaker 1: attention or do you think she's getting bad advice or
Speaker 1: do you think she's really going to get a big.
Speaker 2: Payout for this? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably a little bit of everything. I
Speaker 3: think she probably has. If the video was sent to people,
Speaker 3: then she definitely has a good case. But again, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of it's retaliatory too, where she's just
Speaker 3: feeling like she's the victim and she wants to do
Speaker 3: something to make it look like, you know, like she
Speaker 3: was set up and she was a victim in all
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 1: Well, she did say on a recent episode of her
Speaker 1: podcast that Tom would get upset if she didn't reach
Speaker 1: out after a day or two, telling her she was
Speaker 1: selfish and running away from her problems. When she was
Speaker 1: staying at the medical facility, the metals that she left
Speaker 1: him to deal with all the fodder, an overall discussion
Speaker 1: of Tom being a terrible Rachel suing arianisqu we also
Speaker 1: cannot forget that Rachel while spending a whole season lying
Speaker 1: as well, asked Arianna about her sex life with Tom
Speaker 1: on camera while she was actively sleeping with Tom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I understand.
Speaker 1: Everyone makes mistakes, but that's pretty like was that calculated though?
Speaker 2: To throw people off the trail?
Speaker 1: Regardless if I was having sex with Shane, I would
Speaker 1: avoid the topic of sex with you, like I don't
Speaker 1: need to talk about it with you. If I was
Speaker 1: having sex with Shane, I wouldn't be like, so, how's
Speaker 1: your sex life with Shane right now?
Speaker 2: But maybe you just wanted to compare.
Speaker 1: But either way, what do you think is going to
Speaker 1: happen to this? Do you think it's going to get
Speaker 1: dismissed or do you think someone's going to get in trouble?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it depends on how many
Speaker 2: people they can prove that it was sent to. It's
Speaker 2: the distribution part well.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that we never saw everything gets leaked,
Speaker 1: and the fact that not a trace of this has
Speaker 1: been leaked, leads me to believe it has not been shared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with too many people.
Speaker 2: That is true. That is a good analysis.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, Emily, I love the compliments. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to be nice so that you know
Speaker 3: I don't get myself in trouble again.
Speaker 2: You look so pretty today.
Speaker 1: Listen, Please don't and please don't lie because I have
Speaker 1: stopping wet hair because I was trying to move the
Speaker 1: podcast time, because I needed to get my hair colored
Speaker 1: because the last time you made fun of my roots,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't have time to get.
Speaker 2: A blowout after, so I had to race home.
Speaker 1: The next one is Brittany Cartwright says Jax Taylor needs
Speaker 1: to change before reunion. There's been I would say between
Speaker 1: the last maybe it started on Saturday, there's been like
Speaker 1: five different reports. First it was that Brittany had moved
Speaker 1: into a friend's place. Then Jax came forward and said
Speaker 1: that wasn't actually true. They're fine, and then Britney removed
Speaker 1: her you know Taylor from her last name.
Speaker 2: We saw.
Speaker 3: The car, the car of the car, Yeah, full of
Speaker 3: lots of stuff.
Speaker 1: The car is as bad as arian his bedroom.
Speaker 2: I was going to say the same thing. Did Arianna
Speaker 2: pack up that car for her?
Speaker 3: Or maybe she says maybe she says, helping Ariana clean
Speaker 3: her room.
Speaker 5: I'm dead that I thought that the last name was Taylor,
Speaker 5: but it's actually Pouchy or catch c au Chi.
Speaker 1: But I just assumed it was Jack's Taylor. But now
Speaker 1: she removed. Jack's real last name is the one she
Speaker 1: removed from her Instagram, not his stage name. Oh as
Speaker 1: a stage namer. Yeah, but she's She's saying that this
Speaker 1: is definitely for her mental health, she noted on Friday,
Speaker 1: denying it's a publicity stunt for the couple's upcoming reality show,
Speaker 1: The Valley. She says, I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: hardest parts right now, that people are speculating that I'm
Speaker 1: doing something for the show coming out, because actually, no,
Speaker 1: whenever you fight with somebody for so long, there's only
Speaker 1: so much you can take. And I deserve better, and
Speaker 1: Cruise deserves better by this messaging and the fact that
Speaker 1: thou who protests too much as Jack saying this is
Speaker 1: not over, this is not done, this is right. I
Speaker 1: my guess is she caught him slipping?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sure absolutely, And what do you mean
Speaker 3: by slipping, like his penis slipped.
Speaker 1: Into somewhere else. I don't think his penis was slipping
Speaker 1: into the girl whose photo they keep showing because that's
Speaker 1: his publicist.
Speaker 2: Where they're like, was Jack's on this secret?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? I don't think it was her, but something
Speaker 1: happened after that trip, But I don't know. There's also
Speaker 1: will it help people tune into the Valley? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would watch The Valley if
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting paid to watch The Valley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not interested in watching it, are you? Uh?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I always say that I don't like to watch stuff,
Speaker 3: but then when I start watching it, then I kind
Speaker 3: of get sucked into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: It's like me with Love is Blind. Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: very invested.
Speaker 2: Okay, I started. I started watching that the other night.
Speaker 1: And do you think and I know that we're not
Speaker 1: talking about Love is Blind, but I have a question.
Speaker 1: Do you think you would have fallen in love with
Speaker 1: Shane had you only heard his voice?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Because he has a great voice, and he's funny, and
Speaker 3: I like people that are funny, like sarcasm, witty sarcasm.
Speaker 2: I'm attracted to that.
Speaker 1: How many days in a pod? Do you think it
Speaker 1: would take him to make you fall in love with him?
Speaker 1: Or do you think who do you think would have
Speaker 1: fallen in love first?
Speaker 2: Oh, me with him or him with me? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Probably probably him with me because I'm extraordinary.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The interesting part about Love is Blind, which is what
Speaker 1: I really like, is once they come out of the
Speaker 1: pods and you see how much they cannot stand one another,
Speaker 1: you to believe is love actually love can see?
Speaker 2: Yes, love is not blind.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 2: Love has twenty twenty vision and contact.
Speaker 1: And ly six, I can do all the things.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. All right, I guess we have to
Speaker 2: get off Love is Blind.
Speaker 1: But let's take a little break and we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk about episode six. Okay, so we're about to
Speaker 1: talk about episode six. But while I was on my
Speaker 1: restroom break washing my hands, I was thinking about something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think that the face time when if somebody
Speaker 1: was going to send a FaceTime as a as a
Speaker 1: female pleasuring themselves. Yeah, are they showing their face or
Speaker 1: are they showing their privates? Or do they have like
Speaker 1: a holder like, how do I.
Speaker 2: Have like logistically, how does it work? Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it shouldn't be FaceTime, it should be like vagina time.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like I just I'm really trying to wrap my
Speaker 1: head around what like do you have to squench your body?
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a lot of work, Like you
Speaker 1: would have to get like your your phone and put
Speaker 1: it in your iPhone holder with maybe like a ring light,
Speaker 1: and then you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't want to see my privates with a
Speaker 2: ring light.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 3: I just if someone's face timing while they're doing that,
Speaker 3: that they need good light so that the other person,
Speaker 3: you know, gets a good view.
Speaker 1: Like I think they just a jet in a glam well.
Speaker 1: I mean, would you shave or something before you did that.
Speaker 1: You would make sure he's lazered, You would make sure it's.
Speaker 3: Nice and trim down there before you just put it
Speaker 3: out there on a FaceTime call.
Speaker 1: But I would think that it would be sexier to
Speaker 1: see somebody's face like making the noises talking than like
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Then you mean like it's a literal FaceTime, but you
Speaker 3: just can't see.
Speaker 2: What's going on. Below. Yeah, you just know what's happening.
Speaker 1: You're using your imagination to guess what's happening below.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we'll go with that. Well, okay, if
Speaker 2: you disagree, then just say it. I gave my whole
Speaker 2: relight scenario, but it wasn't enough for me. No, I
Speaker 2: got it. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's day two in Tahoe. Everyone's slowly waking up.
Speaker 1: When James yells about needing his special chocolates, which I was, like,
Speaker 1: the mushroom ones or what about the special ones, the
Speaker 1: special chocolates. Sandoval is writing in his journal. He writes
Speaker 1: a lot in his journal.
Speaker 3: He does you know what I was thinking? I was like,
Speaker 3: was that his idea to write in the journal? Or
Speaker 3: or was it like, hey, you should write in a journal?
Speaker 3: Like was he trying to look sensitive? I think Rachel
Speaker 3: told him he should be journaling, and so he was
Speaker 3: journaling because someone told him to journal.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I felt like it was like a ploy to make
Speaker 3: him look like he was deep and sensitive.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I would assume it was to a superficial narcissist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like the rest of us, right, But
Speaker 5: I do think Rachel was probably at this point, there's
Speaker 5: still in communication at you know, she's calling him from
Speaker 5: you know, on the landline from.
Speaker 1: The meadows, and she's saying, I'm doing all this work
Speaker 1: on myself. He's upset, saying you're selfish, and she says, well,
Speaker 1: if you really want to do this, you should stop drinking,
Speaker 1: and you should be journaling, and he should be doing
Speaker 1: all these things. So he's making sure in case she
Speaker 1: ever comes back, there is tape of him journey right.
Speaker 1: But then Sandoval states that yesterday was one of the
Speaker 1: craziest filming experience he's ever had since being on the show.
Speaker 1: He writes about Shena inviting him over to the table
Speaker 1: at the airport. He says Seas only gotten one hour
Speaker 1: of sleep the night before, making him extra emotional the
Speaker 1: entire day. He also says his talk with James could
Speaker 1: have gone better, but it was productive.
Speaker 3: How is his craziest filming experience That Sena invited him
Speaker 3: over to a table at the airport.
Speaker 1: Maybe because he thought they were never going to be
Speaker 1: friends again. But like I'm imagining, like the blurred out
Speaker 1: parts are like Tom doodling, like Rachel Sandoval, with like
Speaker 1: lightning bolts everywhere like what's actually freaking happening?
Speaker 2: Like why did they need to blur stuff out? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they just blurted out to make you think that
Speaker 3: there's something interesting on that, but there's actually nothing there.
Speaker 1: But like I have messy, terrible, big handwriting, and he's
Speaker 1: got like beautiful penmanship. I mean, I guess that's a
Speaker 1: quality I could look for in a partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's important.
Speaker 1: So when he writes love notes, it's very pretty, so
Speaker 1: like he can touch the lamp send a note that
Speaker 1: he's been writing in his journal. Then Lala and she
Speaker 1: and are laying in bed talking about their trip so far.
Speaker 1: Shena texted Ariana yesterday, telling her how everything's been very
Speaker 1: surface level and there's been no big fights yet. Both
Speaker 1: Lala and Sena emphasized if this were either of their trips,
Speaker 1: Sandoval wouldn't have been invited. Then, Sheena reminds Lalla of
Speaker 1: the time with Sandoval. This was a big thing for me,
Speaker 1: Santoval I sat so Sonny during the pandemic because she
Speaker 1: had no income. She starts crying and says the line
Speaker 1: I'm not saying come over for dinner and let me
Speaker 1: paint your tonyas white. But despite her sadness, when it
Speaker 1: comes to her broken friendship with Santavala, Shina Tellsala she
Speaker 1: doesn't feel tormed.
Speaker 2: She's team Ariana.
Speaker 1: Until she dies. I don't know that you can say
Speaker 1: that because I already feel like the shift of your
Speaker 1: no longer team Mariana because you're pissed off about Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, Also, I think, how do
Speaker 3: you say that someone sent you money during the pandemic
Speaker 3: without you asking for it, and thousands of dollars showed
Speaker 3: up in your account and the fact that he never
Speaker 3: brought it up on camera, not the camera, and he
Speaker 3: could have to make himself look bad better or have
Speaker 3: some redeeming qualities and he never did. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: In that moment, I was like, how do you say
Speaker 3: that and then say your team Ariana? Like that doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense to me? Well, like you should just be
Speaker 3: team no team, no team your team?
Speaker 1: Who's ever the you know the better friend to you?
Speaker 1: But I since seeing this episode, I have sent tom My, Zelle,
Speaker 1: My Venmo.
Speaker 2: My Pap.
Speaker 1: I can't have you gotten any have you gotten anything
Speaker 1: any deposits?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I'm happy to accept them at any point that he's fit, like,
Speaker 1: because I do. I'm willing to accept the money and listen,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be team Tom all the way. If
Speaker 1: he wants to marry me, moneybeat.
Speaker 2: Team Tom until you die.
Speaker 1: I'll be until I die or until Vana plumb Rules
Speaker 1: is over and I'm onto the Valley, whichever comes first.
Speaker 1: But then we get Ariana doing a photoshoot for her
Speaker 1: new cocktail book. Unlike the last one, which featured Sandoval,
Speaker 1: this one is all her.
Speaker 2: Arianna doesn't think Tom believes she could do anything on
Speaker 2: her own. She calls this book her breakup album, being
Speaker 2: inspired by Alanis Morrisset, Kelly Clarkson, and Beyonce. The title
Speaker 2: of the book is single af Cocktails Drinks for Bad
Speaker 2: Bitches by Arianna Maddox. I also want to point out
Speaker 2: that Alanis morrisa breakup anthem was about Dave Coolier from
Speaker 2: Full House? Was it the Funny Guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, Okay, yeah, I think I do that Arianna's
Speaker 1: ability to monetize Sandoval should actually be studied in colleges everywhere.
Speaker 2: At this point, Yeah, she excels at that. It's like, Hey,
Speaker 2: we did a book together.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it on my own this time,
Speaker 3: like it's not even genius ideas yet here we are.
Speaker 1: And now it makes me annoyed that I haven't because
Speaker 1: I was sent both of those books. You probably were
Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna anoy that. Oh you weren't.
Speaker 2: Oh nothing? Yeah no, sorry? Where you sent to Tom
Speaker 2: and Tom Candle? No? Nothing, oh no.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering. I didn't there was story time in
Speaker 1: the cocktail books. I thought it was like a recipe
Speaker 1: book for cocktails.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Is there story time in there?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: What is it? It's some drinks but also some detailed
Speaker 2: stories of what their relationship.
Speaker 1: I guess because she like kind of lays out, broke
Speaker 1: it out all right into the different checks like I'm
Speaker 1: happy for you, the love, the blood, the betrayal, all
Speaker 1: the things. Now I'm like, okay, Ariana, once again, very
Speaker 1: smart because that book that I got three months ago,
Speaker 1: I am now going to open it and start to
Speaker 1: look because let's be honest, I'm never going to learn
Speaker 1: how to make a cocktail. No really, but if there's
Speaker 1: going to be story time, I'm interested.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about Shannon? The Meditation instructor. I actually,
Speaker 1: Shannon the meditation instructor didn't bother me. I actually liked her,
Speaker 1: and I liked how she made them sit back to back.
Speaker 1: I thought that was smart.
Speaker 2: No, who didn't like that? She didn't like that.
Speaker 1: She didn't like that.
Speaker 2: She also, she know, was so fucking pissed that Brock
Speaker 2: was late. She couldn't even see straight. I know he's
Speaker 2: a lot. I've just come over from the ateenth hole.
Speaker 1: Also, when she woke up and said that she thought
Speaker 1: that he went golfing. I thought he went golfing with
Speaker 1: one of the other guys in the house. And then
Speaker 1: all I'm like, lo and behold their shorts and Sandoval
Speaker 1: and like they're all there. So he went like golfing
Speaker 1: with other people and then didn't make it back in
Speaker 1: time to film, and she was like no, no, and
Speaker 1: then she had to step back to back with Sandoval.
Speaker 2: She was not having a good day at all. She wasn't.
Speaker 1: And then she tried to get Brock to come over
Speaker 1: to do back to back on a few he wasn't,
Speaker 1: and he was probably because he knew he was going
Speaker 1: to get his ass. She's like, I'm going to stay
Speaker 1: way over here, way over here and listen, we love
Speaker 1: our guys shorts.
Speaker 2: But his dirty feet really made me anxious.
Speaker 1: Why I checked? Not one other person had dirty feet? No, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even notice the dirty feet. Do
Speaker 1: you let me see your foot? No? I I have
Speaker 1: Toto shoes on. There's no dirty feet here, look okay,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, all right. Well that's good for you
Speaker 1: that you have sneakers on, because who knows what would
Speaker 1: be underneath that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have socks on. So, but
Speaker 2: it gets very chaotic.
Speaker 1: During the meditation, the instructor asks everyone to relax and
Speaker 1: play a movie of their life. We get like, very
Speaker 1: like chaotic flashbacks of Sandoval's last few months with Arianna
Speaker 1: and the friend group. And then this is the real doozy.
Speaker 1: The instructor tells everyone to go back with the person
Speaker 1: that they're sitting back to back with and imagine them
Speaker 1: never seeing the person again.
Speaker 2: That made me sad. I got a little teary eyed.
Speaker 1: So did Tom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: So now you've seen Shane cry three times in fifteen years,
Speaker 1: and we've seen Tom cry fifteen time and three episodes.
Speaker 1: Sounds about right, But what did you think about Sheena
Speaker 1: getting up. She's super emotional. There's lots of back and forth. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I think. I think she's struggling because I
Speaker 1: think she wants to be okay with Tom. I think
Speaker 1: that she would like to make up with him and
Speaker 1: move forward. But I think she's it's difficult because then
Speaker 1: she knows that if she does that, then Arianna is
Speaker 1: like everybody who's who's okay with Tom is dead to Ariana.
Speaker 1: So I think she's trying to navigate. She cares about Ariana,
Speaker 1: or she cares about what social media and out. Because
Speaker 1: once I saw the amount of times that she was
Speaker 1: looking up the picture where.
Speaker 2: She had her arms around Tom and everybody was coming
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: I think that she I listen, I'm biased because I
Speaker 1: like she and I like hanging out with her. I've
Speaker 1: always had a wonderful time with her. I don't think
Speaker 1: she's a bad person, but I think on this show
Speaker 1: she gets a lot of heat for straddling the fence
Speaker 1: or whatever they like to say it. You know, she's
Speaker 1: always a flip flopper or whatever it may be, and
Speaker 1: she doesn't want that again this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I think she's genuinely concerned about the backlash from public,
Speaker 3: from the social media mob. So I feel like she's
Speaker 3: afraid to move forward with Sandibal because then she's going
Speaker 3: to not only piss off Ariana, but also piss off
Speaker 3: the public because I'm sure when they started filming there
Speaker 3: was such a backlash against Tom and everybody was so
Speaker 3: supportive of Ariana that that's where everybody's mentally at.
Speaker 1: But my other question is, whenever you see, you know,
Speaker 1: we watch Ariana and Katie not actually interviewing the people
Speaker 1: for the sandwich shop with the other lady doing it,
Speaker 1: but then they talked to she on the phone, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really appear to me that they like Shena.
Speaker 3: I agree, And the way that they look at each
Speaker 3: other and like side eye each other and you know,
Speaker 3: kind of like roll their eyes she's talking, they're just like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, I think she Nie says, make
Speaker 3: up with Tom and move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just make up with Tom, because I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we haven't watched from the beginning,
Speaker 1: but there doesn't seem to be a ton of love
Speaker 1: from Ariana to Shina. And I know that Katie used
Speaker 1: to hate Shena well, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know if you used to is the correct word, because
Speaker 3: the way they sia each other, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: currently Yeah, it might be in present for.
Speaker 2: Him, but somehow they get through the meditation.
Speaker 1: But then they go on, they decide the Tahoe group
Speaker 1: takes a ride on some gondolas. Sandoval, Schwartz, and Brock
Speaker 1: are in one together while the rest of the group
Speaker 1: or in another. Sandoval once again defends his action, saying
Speaker 1: he and Rachel never did anything to intentionally hurt Anyone
Speaker 1: points out that Santoval's team tried to lie about Brock
Speaker 1: hooking up with Rachel during the height of scandival to
Speaker 1: take some of the heat off of him.
Speaker 2: Do we believe this?
Speaker 1: Which part the part where for a while it was
Speaker 1: like implied that Brock was also had hooked up with
Speaker 1: Rachel because Rachel just goes in trying to steal everybody's boyfriends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that, so Brock did. He
Speaker 2: didn't actually hook up.
Speaker 1: No, but Brock was telling Tom, Hey, because of this,
Speaker 1: your team started planting stories about me, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: also could have hooked up with Rachel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Tom said, no way, his team did that.
Speaker 3: That's absolutely untrue. What never happened.
Speaker 1: I've met Tom's team. I'm not sure they're listen. I
Speaker 1: love Tom's team, very nice gentlemen. You saw them at
Speaker 1: Tom's birthday. I'm not sure they're savvy enough to make
Speaker 1: that story. Just sit around and calculate that story and
Speaker 1: then put it out there. Sorry. I think that story
Speaker 1: born because Sheena made a big deal last year saying
Speaker 1: I would trust Rachel laying in bed with Brock and
Speaker 1: not worry about it, And so I think that's how
Speaker 1: the story started, not because Tom's team was like.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, deflection over here.
Speaker 1: Getting back to Katie and Arianna hiring.
Speaker 2: This was last July. Where are they? Where are they working?
Speaker 3: I don't know, But you know what, it's hard to
Speaker 3: watch that scene knowing that they still aren't open. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, and then they were like complaining about how
Speaker 3: the woman took over Enny many steps. They're so mad
Speaker 3: at Penny. But then I'm like, but when Penny was
Speaker 3: done asking questions, that would be your opportunity to also
Speaker 3: ask questions. But they're just like, bye, nice to meet you, Yeah,
Speaker 3: bye bye.
Speaker 1: They're two booked up being pissed at Penny and Sheena,
Speaker 1: and that they're not on the Tahoe trip, and that
Speaker 1: this is the one thing they're filming, hiring people from
Speaker 1: a business that's still not open. Like it's it's rough.
Speaker 1: It's rough going out there, and I like those girls.
Speaker 1: It's just. But also things I need to know. Is
Speaker 1: Penny still on the payroll? I want to know are
Speaker 1: they are they paying rent? Are they still currently paying rent?
Speaker 1: Have they been paying rent this entire time? And does
Speaker 1: the big deal tie work there? Is he just making
Speaker 1: the big bill time? Is he just making salami sandwiches
Speaker 1: on his downtime just in case, like preparing himself.
Speaker 5: He's like, screw you four seasons, there's a t I
Speaker 5: might get a shot and to say which shop.
Speaker 1: So let's hope he didn't put in his letter of
Speaker 1: resignation right after that interview, because otherwise he screwed Santam's
Speaker 1: gonna have to send him paypals too. Yep, poor guy.
Speaker 1: Then they're on the boat. Things are starting to come unraveled.
Speaker 1: Half the boat being drunk and the other half being
Speaker 1: sober is a little bit rough. It's rough going the
Speaker 1: fact that they're needing to do shots of oxygen just
Speaker 1: to get the through it, tequila, I need oxygen. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a whipp it. At first, I was like,
Speaker 1: they're showing this.
Speaker 2: I did too, because he's like, that's some good stuff.
Speaker 1: I was like, And then I was like, oh, that
Speaker 1: isn't whipped cream, that's just oxygen.
Speaker 2: Take from this oxygen.
Speaker 1: But Sina starts to cry and admit she can't keep
Speaker 1: hating Tom for Ariana. Katie and Ariana aren't remorseful at all.
Speaker 1: If I had a tear for every time she cried
Speaker 1: this episode in regards to Sandoval, I'd be rich enough
Speaker 1: not to do this pod anymore.
Speaker 2: You could just resign.
Speaker 1: I was right now, I'm done, bye bye. And then
Speaker 1: we've got what about James Hard launching the return of
Speaker 1: Hippie or Graham or whatever his name is by posting
Speaker 1: the photo on the boat and Ali panicking because she's like,
Speaker 1: this means it's real. Yeah, now we've made it official.
Speaker 1: The next dog that how'd you feel about Shorts hitting
Speaker 1: on the boat attendee.
Speaker 3: I've founded amusing. I felt like she's forced into being nice, though,
Speaker 3: because if you're hitting on someone on camera, like I
Speaker 3: feel like they are kind of forced to go along
Speaker 3: with it. Well, clearly she didn't feel two forced because
Speaker 3: we never saw her back at the house for the
Speaker 3: cookoff later.
Speaker 2: You know, that's hard, that's true. She was being nice though.
Speaker 1: She was like, oh yeah, okay, She's like sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever good?
Speaker 3: Did you wash your feet in the ocean? I was, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe it's some dirty feet. That was a turnoff.
Speaker 1: Then we get to this is the I think that
Speaker 1: probably the best part of the episode, where Santaval and
Speaker 1: La La start to really get into it. Lah has
Speaker 1: kind of been taking a back seat, but she essentially
Speaker 1: wants an apology from Tom because Tom has always had
Speaker 1: an issue with things that Lala has done, and he's
Speaker 1: saying that she needs to be honest about her life.
Speaker 1: But even when saying this, he was currently having an
Speaker 1: affair with Rachel, Right.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on?
Speaker 1: Like I when I watched these shows and when I
Speaker 1: you know, when I talk to you, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: we can all be hypocrites.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he was that he was a hypocrite,
Speaker 3: But I think I think she made a good point
Speaker 3: and it made sense when she was talking about it,
Speaker 3: and I could tell that all she wanted was a
Speaker 3: recognition that he was hypocritical. And that he made a
Speaker 3: confident about her not being real while he's having an
Speaker 3: affair with someone in their friend group. I feel like
Speaker 3: that was an opportunity for him to just show a
Speaker 3: little vulnerability in some humanity and say, you're absolutely right,
Speaker 3: that was totally out of line.
Speaker 2: I was lying, I.
Speaker 3: Was being deceitful, I was trying to deflect and right,
Speaker 3: and I shouldn't have done that, and now I see it.
Speaker 3: But instead he just he just goes into her, and
Speaker 3: that's why he pisses people off, and that's why you
Speaker 3: can only like him for a limited amount of time
Speaker 3: and you feel badly for him, but it's only in
Speaker 3: short spurts because then he says really dumb stuff again,
Speaker 3: and then you're back at square one again.
Speaker 1: If what I feel like when you watch him, if
Speaker 1: you start having conversations with him and everything is sold
Speaker 1: and kind and you're not accusatory, he can handle it.
Speaker 1: But the second you start to put any blame on
Speaker 1: him and he isn't choosing it to do it himself
Speaker 1: to start, he blows yeah, and like it's I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that even he talks about La La in
Speaker 1: an article the day he and Rachel got caught. He
Speaker 1: even corrected her and said, oh, it was the day before,
Speaker 1: it was the day of, Like, how could you even do.
Speaker 2: That to me?
Speaker 1: And then Sandoval tries defending himself, saying he kept a
Speaker 1: seven month relationship private, why Lala kept her six year
Speaker 1: relationship quiet for a few years.
Speaker 2: I mean, they get into a screaming fight.
Speaker 1: It doesn't appear that he really starts to understand what
Speaker 1: Laala saying at all until Sheina gets involved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she has to break it down. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess he didn't understand what Lala was saying from
Speaker 3: the get go, and I think maybe that's why he
Speaker 3: got heated. I guess I can maybe change too much.
Speaker 3: Maybe he needs the lay off the oxygen. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like sometimes I have too much oxygen.
Speaker 2: I'm like what.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, But he did do the same
Speaker 1: to James at the party. He doesn't he is so
Speaker 1: stuck in living in the world of the show that
Speaker 1: he can't also like compartmentalize and say, yes, this did
Speaker 1: happen at one point in our relationship, with our friendships,
Speaker 1: this is what I recently did, right.
Speaker 3: So you're saying it at his birthday party when James
Speaker 3: came and was talking to him and he's like, but you,
Speaker 3: So he turns it around.
Speaker 1: You hooked up with Kristen eleven years ago or whatever?
Speaker 1: It was, right right, Like, there's always that. But I
Speaker 1: think that when you do something shitty, that tends to
Speaker 1: be what you want to do. You want to find
Speaker 1: other people that did shitty things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you want to bring up the shitty
Speaker 3: things that they did and throw it out there to
Speaker 3: deflect from the shitty thing.
Speaker 2: That you did.
Speaker 3: But I guess it comes down to whoever did the
Speaker 3: shittiest thing currently they just have to deal with that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've already worked through the shitty things you guys have
Speaker 3: done in years past. We're on this great thing, right, well,
Speaker 3: your shitty thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then we get they seem to have like
Speaker 1: kind of a breakthrough. They seem fine. She does call
Speaker 1: sand of all scary, saying he doesn't take accountability. She
Speaker 1: starts to see like patterns that she's not comfortable with.
Speaker 1: But then we're back to Sena having another mental breakdown
Speaker 1: about the picture she took with the fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like, because I've been there too,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you have too, you can't help the
Speaker 3: social media mob. Like whatever someone thinks at some point,
Speaker 3: there's nothing you could do about it. The only thing
Speaker 3: you can do. Shane always says, you need to just
Speaker 3: put your phone down and give it seventy two hours
Speaker 3: and then they move on to something else. You can't,
Speaker 3: you can't mentally just get into it and read all
Speaker 3: the comments and cry over it because it is what
Speaker 3: it is. And when you put yourself out there, when
Speaker 3: you're on a reality show, when you're out taking pictures
Speaker 3: with fans, it happens.
Speaker 2: It happens to all of us.
Speaker 1: Well. I feel like if I were to read my mentions,
Speaker 1: I would also be in the meadows. Maybe you should
Speaker 1: read them so that she feels better, Like I'd be like, sorry, Emle,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going months, so you're gonna go and
Speaker 1: hang out with Rachel or you gonna have to do
Speaker 1: somewhere you have together. You cannot go to my mentions
Speaker 1: like I can't know way and like, especially on a
Speaker 1: trip on camera all the things, you don't go to
Speaker 1: the mentions.
Speaker 2: Or you can. Really you could really live life on
Speaker 2: the edge if you just get rid of all your
Speaker 2: what is it your band words, your lists of band words,
Speaker 2: if you can just delete them all for like a
Speaker 2: week and see what happens.
Speaker 1: The sadness I would feel my getting all those clown
Speaker 1: faces like the nothing gives me more joy than knowing
Speaker 1: that I blocked the clown face and like you, no matter.
Speaker 2: What you try to do, I can't get it in there.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: I will never see the clown face. No, not happening.
Speaker 1: But I also want to know what's wrong with me
Speaker 1: that that face really offends me that much.
Speaker 2: I don't know you get you get it that often? Oh,
Speaker 2: I got it like you're a clown, You're a clown.
Speaker 1: And then the face like I just think the face
Speaker 1: is so rotten, Like I just don't want to see
Speaker 1: that face, Like what you need to do? But I
Speaker 1: don't need to see the face.
Speaker 2: But she.
Speaker 1: Says Ariana isn't coming to her defense, which said, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: ship of course she's not going to come to your defense.
Speaker 1: But then sheen EVNSD to Lala that Ariana never validates
Speaker 1: her conflicting emotions with sand of all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's never going to happen. Yeah never.
Speaker 1: Hello, listen, I also do not have a high IQ,
Speaker 1: but I know that that is not going to happen.
Speaker 2: Never.
Speaker 1: Then, during Laala's confessionals, she says Ariana needs to pull
Speaker 1: her head out of her ash. She needs to remember
Speaker 1: who her friends are and they've done for her. Then
Speaker 1: Sheena asked why they can never have a moment that's
Speaker 1: about her. She's tired of everything revolving around Ariana.
Speaker 3: And then that's what finally, finally, I feel like people
Speaker 3: are actually saying what they're finally thinking.
Speaker 1: But I do think Sheena totally so like told on
Speaker 1: herself by saying she wanted to be on Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars, but she just was happy for her friend.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for her. I'm just so happy. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy for her. I can't wait for eleven years,
Speaker 1: but I'm thrilled. But she got so happy, she got it,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, Okay, here we go. We finally
Speaker 1: got to the real story.
Speaker 2: But I'm so happy. I'm good as gold. I'm so
Speaker 2: happy for her.
Speaker 1: But I do think things are picking up. I do
Speaker 1: think things are picking up.
Speaker 2: Yes they are. It's definitely get better.
Speaker 1: It's getting better. But I do wonder what happens when
Speaker 1: they get home from Tahoe, because we see Joe into
Speaker 1: the mix with shorts, which is clear what we predicted
Speaker 1: was right, that they're friends with benefits and now she
Speaker 1: wants to take things to the next level and he's
Speaker 1: not having it.
Speaker 2: No, i'still in love with Katie. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't feel that, do you. I don't know. Like
Speaker 2: the way he was.
Speaker 1: Talking about her when Brock was blackout wasted, he didn't
Speaker 1: have a good response, but he just kept saying she
Speaker 1: liked me when I had nothing. It makes me feel
Speaker 1: like all of the relationships he's had now that he
Speaker 1: is I guess something. I don't know, feel like people
Speaker 1: are just with him because he's on a television show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe he's That's the one thing he's missing
Speaker 3: from that relationship was the authenticity of it, even if
Speaker 3: it's not her, but the level of authenticity, because he's
Speaker 3: clearly not getting that now.
Speaker 1: No, clearly, No, absolutely not. I mean especially not from
Speaker 1: the girl from the boat. She never showed up.
Speaker 3: Unless she showed up and they were like, look, we
Speaker 3: don't need you to film me. Have enough going on
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: She is crying law laws, fighting with standalball.
Speaker 5: We don't bleed you text messages also, did you notice
Speaker 5: that they've blurred out part of those text messages.
Speaker 1: Sorry on it again, like don't please, don't like you know,
Speaker 1: try to pull us. I can read, and I can
Speaker 1: see when you're blurring stuff out or only reading half
Speaker 1: of a sentence.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again, maybe it has to do a production I don't know,
Speaker 1: or filming. You don't think so, Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: probably does, but I would like to see the full text.
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I also don't mind breaking the fourth wall.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it at all.
Speaker 3: I feel like the trend now is to do that
Speaker 3: more often, don't you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: Loah, love it, don't mind it, but I am curious
Speaker 1: to see where it goes from here once they're all
Speaker 1: back in LA with Hippie and all the people doing
Speaker 1: all the things.
Speaker 2: But Hippie anyway, is that a better name than Graham?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. No. Also, it doesn't naturally come. It's not
Speaker 1: like I knew the dog Graham. It's not like Graham's
Speaker 1: but like Graham. He looks like a Graham cracker, he does,
Speaker 1: but Hippy Graham is always on a tight lea. She
Speaker 1: also noticed the Graham maybe a touch of truth to
Speaker 1: Rachel's story because.
Speaker 2: They never have that Graham just roaming around. No, I'm
Speaker 2: surprised he doesn't have like an E caller on too,
Speaker 2: like a shocker.
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