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Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show

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Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season

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Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules.

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping Off with myself,

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Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us because we're hilarious, because we are

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Speaker 3: amazing at least we see.

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Speaker 1: So we have two fans that would be us. We

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Speaker 1: are each other's biggest fans. Oh my gosh, I got

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Speaker 1: some dms after last week though, Emily.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh was it the people that were mad at

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Speaker 3: us for the LVP comments, Because that's what.

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Speaker 2: I got, No, I got. You need to tell Emily

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Speaker 2: she needs to be nicer to you. Oh really?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they said, Teddy, we just want you to

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Speaker 1: know that even though you get so much hate, people

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Speaker 1: really do like you. They and you can't let Emily

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Speaker 1: tease you that way.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, if you think that, Emily, the

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Speaker 4: old people is the one that hurts me the most,

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Speaker 4: you all got another thing coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah on the joke, folks, I'm all right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: especially now that we have matching backgrounds in pink and blue.

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Speaker 1: Like we it's equal banter. It goes both ways. I

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Speaker 1: take it and give it. Yeah, we're both fond. We're

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Speaker 1: equal opportunists, all right with giving each other heat. It's

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Speaker 1: what gets us through vander Pump Rules. Because this week,

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Speaker 1: more than ever, we have a lot. Most of the

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Speaker 1: time we don't have that many headlines. We're just recapping

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Speaker 1: the episode. But I feel like since last week there's

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Speaker 1: been six hundred and twenty four thousand headlines that like

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Speaker 1: even from Britney cart right, it's name changes. I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's a lot, a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a lot. Is there anything new that you'd

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Speaker 1: like to report for us, just you know, prior to

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Speaker 1: getting into it, just.

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Speaker 2: In general, like in life? Yeah, in life?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that you feel like I need to

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Speaker 1: know or that like we really need to like bond

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Speaker 1: our friendship to the next level. No, I saw you

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Speaker 1: just push your nose up like this, right? No?

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Speaker 2: Nothing, okay, no life updates.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have any life updates either, but no,

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Speaker 1: who does have a life update? La? La?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, this is this is why we really

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Speaker 2: work together.

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Speaker 1: You you saw the person that are rundown and really where.

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Speaker 2: I know where you were going. I get it. I

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Speaker 2: follow this.

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Speaker 1: Well, this all makes sense now because I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be going to Disneyland with Lala and Stassy and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it got canceled. Well at

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Speaker 1: first it got rained out, and then it got canceled,

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Speaker 1: and I was wondering, wonder why I got canceled. Now

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Speaker 1: it makes sense. You don't want to go in the

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Speaker 1: teacups pregnant.

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Speaker 2: No, how far along is she do? We know?

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Speaker 1: Well, far enough along that she has a little baby

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Speaker 1: bump in this picture with ocean looking up, so like

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Speaker 1: clearly you know she was probably in the first trimester

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Speaker 1: during this Disney excursion. And then now that's why we

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Speaker 1: had to cancel. But I mean, Dove has gotten through

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Speaker 1: the hardships of missing Disneyland on her birthday in order.

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Speaker 3: For see see that's what happens where you went wrong

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Speaker 3: as you told her you were taking her to Disneyland right,

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Speaker 3: and then you had to back out of it. That's

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Speaker 3: why I've learned to just not tell kids anything anything,

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Speaker 3: not anything, not good news, not bad news, nothing, because

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Speaker 3: then when you have to change it, they just don't

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Speaker 3: adapt and they just can't handle it so well. The

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Speaker 3: good news is the day that I did tell her

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Speaker 3: we couldn't go was because it was pouring down rain,

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Speaker 3: and that she seemed since then to have forgotten of

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Speaker 3: that promise, right, And then now she does slightly like

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Speaker 3: give me little digs by saying things like Matteo from

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Speaker 3: my class went to Disneyland this week, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's so nice for him. And then I just let

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Speaker 3: it be, let it a ride, because I don't say

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not like, well we read booked yours, because

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Speaker 1: clearly we didn't. Didn't. But Laala posted a picture on

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Speaker 1: Instagram this Sunday showing off her baby bump, explaining in

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Speaker 1: the caption I'm expanding my pod. She received a multitude

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Speaker 1: of comments on this Instagram post, but the one that

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Speaker 1: stuck out to most of the fans was a congratulatory

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Speaker 1: message from Randall Emmett's ex wife, Amber child chat Childers,

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Speaker 1: Amber Childers, Amber Childers, Amber Chielders.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that why in there that's throwing you off.

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Speaker 2: I mean it could be.

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Speaker 1: I also thought our new sign said pooping off and

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Speaker 1: I almost went when I got when I first got

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Speaker 1: at the p's weren't lit up, so that I was

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Speaker 1: like pooping off right on, Tad said, pooping off things

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Speaker 1: are really makes it makes sense though, But Amber says, congratulations, mama,

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Speaker 1: she wrote on Monday's episode of Give Them Laala podcast,

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Speaker 1: she says what she was looking for in a sperm donor,

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Speaker 1: I don't care about looks, Lalla said, adding that she

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Speaker 1: did ask what the donor looked like physically. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I would prefer that this baby kind of have the

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Speaker 1: same aesthetic look as me and my mom in Ocean,

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Speaker 1: so when they come into this world, it's not only

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Speaker 1: like you don't have a dad because I got you

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Speaker 1: from a donor, but you don't look like all those

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Speaker 1: types of things. But then she said, my biggest thing though,

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Speaker 1: is I did not want to see adult pictures. That

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Speaker 1: makes it too real, too personal. Like sure, I can

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Speaker 1: look at them as a little kid. That's cute, and

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I also don't need

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Speaker 1: them to be extremely.

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Speaker 1: kN Stoner has it's like this could be me Ken'stoner

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Speaker 1: has a tiny connection with her daughter Ocean as his

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Speaker 1: favorite song and poem both had to do with the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Upon her child's eighteenth birthday, the California Cryobank can give

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Speaker 1: them access to their spoon donor.

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Speaker 2: If they have questions and they.

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Speaker 1: Want to go find their dad can explain, well, I

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Speaker 1: have some questions for you, Emily. Would you want to

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Speaker 1: see an adult picture?

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Speaker 2: Because I would? Well, I would.

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Speaker 3: I mean her first sentence when she says I don't

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Speaker 3: the thing that I care about, Like, let me see

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Speaker 3: what this person looks like like, especially if you're going

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Speaker 3: to say I don't care about smart. Yeah, you can't

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Speaker 3: not care about either one. You can't be like I

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Speaker 3: if they're smart.

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Speaker 2: Then what so you got to pick one?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get you don't get to have oh,

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, though, If you could

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Speaker 3: who would you pick?

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Speaker 2: Brad Pitt? Oh my god, that was we're trying to

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Speaker 2: steal my sperm doughor bit.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Brad Pitt, listen, I feel like

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Speaker 1: me and Brad Pitt would make really smart beautiful just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we're gonna do. You have a kid with

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Speaker 1: pit and then we'll compare. But are we going to

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Speaker 1: compare who's cuter, who's smarter?

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Speaker 2: Both? Shit? I mean, do your kids look more like

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Speaker 2: you or Shane? Though? Well it depends because we have

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Speaker 2: three together, so I think Annabelle is a mix of

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Speaker 2: both of us. But then Luke looks just like Shane

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Speaker 2: and Keller looks just like me, and Keller is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But I'm happy for her. I think that age gap

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Speaker 1: have little ones together, it's perfect. I'm excited for her.

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Speaker 1: But I do always wonder about sperm donors how much

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Speaker 1: information I would need? Like and also, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: what I was originally going to say. Okay, yeah, here

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Speaker 1: it is here, it is back around all right? Do

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Speaker 1: you get to specify if you want somebody that's funny

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Speaker 1: and then who's making the decision if that person is

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you just are you clicking off something like I'm hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're just a checklist.

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Speaker 1: It says are you and it's like personable, yes, funny,

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Speaker 1: hell yeah I am.

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Speaker 2: Are you an introvert or an extrovert? Extrovert? Do people

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. Who is there is

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Speaker 3: Like you mean how intense is the vetting process? Like

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Speaker 3: are they going through several interviews where other people are

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Speaker 2: Like not funny, not personable?

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Speaker 1: Or are they just filling it out themselves like no

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Speaker 1: So if somebody's like, yeah, I'm really smart, I you know,

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Speaker 1: like yes they have this. I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: but if somebody then like send me the paperwork, yeah,

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Speaker 1: degree even though you're forty two years old, somebody as

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Speaker 2: How would you get it? Well, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 3: I graduated from high school nineteen ninety four, So I

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Speaker 3: feel like my transcripts are you know, disintegrated by now

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Speaker 1: A bar somewhere described they're in Braille. Yeah, they're like,

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Speaker 2: Over to you.

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Speaker 1: But either way, congratulations. I'm excited for her, and she

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Speaker 3: Where Why am I at the at the airport listening

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Speaker 1: is why under California is a revenge porn statue. There

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, get it, get after it never.

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Speaker 1: But in the law in the suing, what is it

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Speaker 2: No, No, you.

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Speaker 1: Just watch enough to catch them. Yeah, but would you

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Speaker 3: And be like, I feel like she had to send

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Like I mean you're just sitting there with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she had to have sent it to someone.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to revenge porn, do you think

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. If she was recorded doing something

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Speaker 1: But I also, unlike my husband, have never masturbated on

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because I don't think anyone's ever tried

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like I'm like, yeah, you're right, You're

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Speaker 3: I think it's probably a little bit of everything. I

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Speaker 1: Well, she did say on a recent episode of her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I understand.

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Speaker 1: Everyone makes mistakes, but that's pretty like was that calculated though?

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Speaker 1: Regardless if I was having sex with Shane, I would

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Speaker 2: But maybe you just wanted to compare.

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Speaker 1: But either way, what do you think is going to

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it depends on how many

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that we never saw everything gets leaked,

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what, Emily, I love the compliments. Thank

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to be nice so that you know

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Speaker 2: You look so pretty today.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Please don't and please don't lie because I have

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Speaker 1: The next one is Brittany Cartwright says Jax Taylor needs

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Speaker 2: We saw.

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Speaker 3: The car, the car of the car, Yeah, full of

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Speaker 1: The car is as bad as arian his bedroom.

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00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: I was going to say the same thing. Did Arianna

441
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: pack up that car for her?

442
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: Or maybe she says maybe she says, helping Ariana clean

443
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: her room.

444
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 5: I'm dead that I thought that the last name was Taylor,

445
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 5: but it's actually Pouchy or catch c au Chi.

446
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: But I just assumed it was Jack's Taylor. But now

447
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: she removed. Jack's real last name is the one she

448
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: removed from her Instagram, not his stage name. Oh as

449
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: a stage namer. Yeah, but she's She's saying that this

450
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: is definitely for her mental health, she noted on Friday,

451
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: denying it's a publicity stunt for the couple's upcoming reality show,

452
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: The Valley. She says, I think that's one of the

453
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: hardest parts right now, that people are speculating that I'm

454
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: doing something for the show coming out, because actually, no,

455
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: whenever you fight with somebody for so long, there's only

456
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: so much you can take. And I deserve better, and

457
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Cruise deserves better by this messaging and the fact that

458
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: thou who protests too much as Jack saying this is

459
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: not over, this is not done, this is right. I

460
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: my guess is she caught him slipping?

461
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sure absolutely, And what do you mean

462
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: by slipping, like his penis slipped.

463
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: Into somewhere else. I don't think his penis was slipping

464
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: into the girl whose photo they keep showing because that's

465
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: his publicist.

466
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: Where they're like, was Jack's on this secret?

467
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: Right?

468
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Right? Right? I don't think it was her, but something

469
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: happened after that trip, But I don't know. There's also

470
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: will it help people tune into the Valley? I don't know.

471
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would watch The Valley if

472
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting paid to watch The Valley.

473
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not interested in watching it, are you? Uh?

474
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: No?

475
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know.

476
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: Maybe I always say that I don't like to watch stuff,

477
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 3: but then when I start watching it, then I kind

478
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: of get sucked into it.

479
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

480
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: It's like me with Love is Blind. Right now, I'm

481
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: very invested.

482
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I started. I started watching that the other night.

483
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: And do you think and I know that we're not

484
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: talking about Love is Blind, but I have a question.

485
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: Do you think you would have fallen in love with

486
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: Shane had you only heard his voice?

487
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: Yes?

488
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: Because he has a great voice, and he's funny, and

489
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: I like people that are funny, like sarcasm, witty sarcasm.

490
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm attracted to that.

491
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: How many days in a pod? Do you think it

492
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: would take him to make you fall in love with him?

493
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: Or do you think who do you think would have

494
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: fallen in love first?

495
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh, me with him or him with me? Yeah? Yeah,

496
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: I don't know. Probably probably him with me because I'm extraordinary.

497
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

498
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: The interesting part about Love is Blind, which is what

499
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: I really like, is once they come out of the

500
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: pods and you see how much they cannot stand one another,

501
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: you to believe is love actually love can see?

502
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: Yes, love is not blind.

503
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Love.

504
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: Love has twenty twenty vision and contact.

505
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: And ly six, I can do all the things.

506
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. All right, I guess we have to

507
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: get off Love is Blind.

508
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: But let's take a little break and we'll come back

509
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: and talk about episode six. Okay, so we're about to

510
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: talk about episode six. But while I was on my

511
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: restroom break washing my hands, I was thinking about something. Yeah,

512
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: do you think that the face time when if somebody

513
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: was going to send a FaceTime as a as a

514
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: female pleasuring themselves. Yeah, are they showing their face or

515
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: are they showing their privates? Or do they have like

516
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: a holder like, how do I.

517
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: Have like logistically, how does it work? Yes, I don't know.

518
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Maybe it shouldn't be FaceTime, it should be like vagina time.

519
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

520
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: It's like I just I'm really trying to wrap my

521
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: head around what like do you have to squench your body?

522
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

523
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a lot of work, Like you

524
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: would have to get like your your phone and put

525
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: it in your iPhone holder with maybe like a ring light,

526
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: and then you.

527
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: Know, I don't want to see my privates with a

528
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: ring light.

529
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm good.

530
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: I just if someone's face timing while they're doing that,

531
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: that they need good light so that the other person,

532
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, gets a good view.

533
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: Like I think they just a jet in a glam well.

534
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: I mean, would you shave or something before you did that.

535
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: You would make sure he's lazered, You would make sure it's.

536
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: Nice and trim down there before you just put it

537
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: out there on a FaceTime call.

538
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: But I would think that it would be sexier to

539
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: see somebody's face like making the noises talking than like

540
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

541
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: Then you mean like it's a literal FaceTime, but you

542
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: just can't see.

543
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: What's going on. Below. Yeah, you just know what's happening.

544
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: You're using your imagination to guess what's happening below.

545
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we'll go with that. Well, okay, if

546
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: you disagree, then just say it. I gave my whole

547
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 2: relight scenario, but it wasn't enough for me. No, I

548
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: got it. Okay.

549
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: So it's day two in Tahoe. Everyone's slowly waking up.

550
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: When James yells about needing his special chocolates, which I was, like,

551
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: the mushroom ones or what about the special ones, the

552
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: special chocolates. Sandoval is writing in his journal. He writes

553
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot in his journal.

554
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: He does you know what I was thinking? I was like,

555
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: was that his idea to write in the journal? Or

556
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: or was it like, hey, you should write in a journal?

557
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: Like was he trying to look sensitive? I think Rachel

558
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: told him he should be journaling, and so he was

559
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: journaling because someone told him to journal.

560
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

561
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: I felt like it was like a ploy to make

562
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: him look like he was deep and sensitive.

563
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I would assume it was to a superficial narcissist.

564
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like the rest of us, right, But

565
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 5: I do think Rachel was probably at this point, there's

566
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: still in communication at you know, she's calling him from

567
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: you know, on the landline from.

568
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: The meadows, and she's saying, I'm doing all this work

569
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: on myself. He's upset, saying you're selfish, and she says, well,

570
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: if you really want to do this, you should stop drinking,

571
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: and you should be journaling, and he should be doing

572
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: all these things. So he's making sure in case she

573
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: ever comes back, there is tape of him journey right.

574
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: But then Sandoval states that yesterday was one of the

575
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: craziest filming experience he's ever had since being on the show.

576
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: He writes about Shena inviting him over to the table

577
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: at the airport. He says Seas only gotten one hour

578
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: of sleep the night before, making him extra emotional the

579
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: entire day. He also says his talk with James could

580
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: have gone better, but it was productive.

581
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: How is his craziest filming experience That Sena invited him

582
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: over to a table at the airport.

583
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Maybe because he thought they were never going to be

584
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: friends again. But like I'm imagining, like the blurred out

585
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: parts are like Tom doodling, like Rachel Sandoval, with like

586
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: lightning bolts everywhere like what's actually freaking happening?

587
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Like why did they need to blur stuff out? I

588
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: don't know.

589
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: Maybe they just blurted out to make you think that

590
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: there's something interesting on that, but there's actually nothing there.

591
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: But like I have messy, terrible, big handwriting, and he's

592
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: got like beautiful penmanship. I mean, I guess that's a

593
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: quality I could look for in a partner.

594
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's important.

595
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: So when he writes love notes, it's very pretty, so

596
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: like he can touch the lamp send a note that

597
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: he's been writing in his journal. Then Lala and she

598
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: and are laying in bed talking about their trip so far.

599
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Shena texted Ariana yesterday, telling her how everything's been very

600
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: surface level and there's been no big fights yet. Both

601
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Lala and Sena emphasized if this were either of their trips,

602
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Sandoval wouldn't have been invited. Then, Sheena reminds Lalla of

603
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: the time with Sandoval. This was a big thing for me,

604
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Santoval I sat so Sonny during the pandemic because she

605
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: had no income. She starts crying and says the line

606
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying come over for dinner and let me

607
00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: paint your tonyas white. But despite her sadness, when it

608
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: comes to her broken friendship with Santavala, Shina Tellsala she

609
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: doesn't feel tormed.

610
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: She's team Ariana.

611
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Until she dies. I don't know that you can say

612
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: that because I already feel like the shift of your

613
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: no longer team Mariana because you're pissed off about Dancing

614
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: with the Stars.

615
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, Also, I think, how do

616
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: you say that someone sent you money during the pandemic

617
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: without you asking for it, and thousands of dollars showed

618
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: up in your account and the fact that he never

619
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: brought it up on camera, not the camera, and he

620
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: could have to make himself look bad better or have

621
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: some redeeming qualities and he never did. So I don't know.

622
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: In that moment, I was like, how do you say

623
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: that and then say your team Ariana? Like that doesn't

624
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: make sense to me? Well, like you should just be

625
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: team no team, no team your team?

626
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Who's ever the you know the better friend to you?

627
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: But I since seeing this episode, I have sent tom My, Zelle,

628
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: My Venmo.

629
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: My Pap.

630
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: I can't have you gotten any have you gotten anything

631
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: any deposits?

632
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: No?

633
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm happy to accept them at any point that he's fit, like,

634
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: because I do. I'm willing to accept the money and listen,

635
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be team Tom all the way. If

636
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: he wants to marry me, moneybeat.

637
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Team Tom until you die.

638
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll be until I die or until Vana plumb Rules

639
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: is over and I'm onto the Valley, whichever comes first.

640
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: But then we get Ariana doing a photoshoot for her

641
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: new cocktail book. Unlike the last one, which featured Sandoval,

642
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: this one is all her.

643
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Arianna doesn't think Tom believes she could do anything on

644
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: her own. She calls this book her breakup album, being

645
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: inspired by Alanis Morrisset, Kelly Clarkson, and Beyonce. The title

646
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: of the book is single af Cocktails Drinks for Bad

647
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: Bitches by Arianna Maddox. I also want to point out

648
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: that Alanis morrisa breakup anthem was about Dave Coolier from

649
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Full House? Was it the Funny Guy? Yeah?

650
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, Okay, yeah, I think I do that Arianna's

651
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: ability to monetize Sandoval should actually be studied in colleges everywhere.

652
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: At this point, Yeah, she excels at that. It's like, Hey,

653
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: we did a book together.

654
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it on my own this time,

655
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: like it's not even genius ideas yet here we are.

656
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: And now it makes me annoyed that I haven't because

657
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: I was sent both of those books. You probably were

658
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna anoy that. Oh you weren't.

659
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Oh nothing? Yeah no, sorry? Where you sent to Tom

660
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: and Tom Candle? No? Nothing, oh no.

661
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering. I didn't there was story time in

662
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: the cocktail books. I thought it was like a recipe

663
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: book for cocktails.

664
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Is there story time in there?

665
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: So?

666
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: What is it? It's some drinks but also some detailed

667
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: stories of what their relationship.

668
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: I guess because she like kind of lays out, broke

669
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: it out all right into the different checks like I'm

670
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: happy for you, the love, the blood, the betrayal, all

671
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: the things. Now I'm like, okay, Ariana, once again, very

672
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: smart because that book that I got three months ago,

673
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I am now going to open it and start to

674
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: look because let's be honest, I'm never going to learn

675
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: how to make a cocktail. No really, but if there's

676
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: going to be story time, I'm interested.

677
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

678
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: How did you feel about Shannon? The Meditation instructor. I actually,

679
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: Shannon the meditation instructor didn't bother me. I actually liked her,

680
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: and I liked how she made them sit back to back.

681
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: I thought that was smart.

682
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: No, who didn't like that? She didn't like that.

683
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: She didn't like that.

684
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: She also, she know, was so fucking pissed that Brock

685
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: was late. She couldn't even see straight. I know he's

686
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: a lot. I've just come over from the ateenth hole.

687
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: Also, when she woke up and said that she thought

688
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: that he went golfing. I thought he went golfing with

689
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: one of the other guys in the house. And then

690
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: all I'm like, lo and behold their shorts and Sandoval

691
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: and like they're all there. So he went like golfing

692
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: with other people and then didn't make it back in

693
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: time to film, and she was like no, no, and

694
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: then she had to step back to back with Sandoval.

695
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: She was not having a good day at all. She wasn't.

696
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: And then she tried to get Brock to come over

697
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: to do back to back on a few he wasn't,

698
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: and he was probably because he knew he was going

699
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: to get his ass. She's like, I'm going to stay

700
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: way over here, way over here and listen, we love

701
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: our guys shorts.

702
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: But his dirty feet really made me anxious.

703
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Why I checked? Not one other person had dirty feet? No, no,

704
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even notice the dirty feet. Do

705
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: you let me see your foot? No? I I have

706
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Toto shoes on. There's no dirty feet here, look okay,

707
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, all right. Well that's good for you

708
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: that you have sneakers on, because who knows what would

709
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: be underneath that.

710
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have socks on. So, but

711
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: it gets very chaotic.

712
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: During the meditation, the instructor asks everyone to relax and

713
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: play a movie of their life. We get like, very

714
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: like chaotic flashbacks of Sandoval's last few months with Arianna

715
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: and the friend group. And then this is the real doozy.

716
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: The instructor tells everyone to go back with the person

717
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: that they're sitting back to back with and imagine them

718
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: never seeing the person again.

719
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: That made me sad. I got a little teary eyed.

720
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: So did Tom.

721
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

722
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: So now you've seen Shane cry three times in fifteen years,

723
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: and we've seen Tom cry fifteen time and three episodes.

724
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Sounds about right, But what did you think about Sheena

725
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: getting up. She's super emotional. There's lots of back and forth. Okay,

726
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: here's what I think. I think she's struggling because I

727
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: think she wants to be okay with Tom. I think

728
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: that she would like to make up with him and

729
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: move forward. But I think she's it's difficult because then

730
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: she knows that if she does that, then Arianna is

731
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: like everybody who's who's okay with Tom is dead to Ariana.

732
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: So I think she's trying to navigate. She cares about Ariana,

733
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: or she cares about what social media and out. Because

734
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: once I saw the amount of times that she was

735
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: looking up the picture where.

736
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: She had her arms around Tom and everybody was coming

737
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: for her.

738
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: I think that she I listen, I'm biased because I

739
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: like she and I like hanging out with her. I've

740
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: always had a wonderful time with her. I don't think

741
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: she's a bad person, but I think on this show

742
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: she gets a lot of heat for straddling the fence

743
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: or whatever they like to say it. You know, she's

744
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: always a flip flopper or whatever it may be, and

745
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: she doesn't want that again this year.

746
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

747
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: No, I think she's genuinely concerned about the backlash from public,

748
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: from the social media mob. So I feel like she's

749
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: afraid to move forward with Sandibal because then she's going

750
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: to not only piss off Ariana, but also piss off

751
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: the public because I'm sure when they started filming there

752
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: was such a backlash against Tom and everybody was so

753
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: supportive of Ariana that that's where everybody's mentally at.

754
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: But my other question is, whenever you see, you know,

755
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: we watch Ariana and Katie not actually interviewing the people

756
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: for the sandwich shop with the other lady doing it,

757
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: but then they talked to she on the phone, it

758
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: doesn't really appear to me that they like Shena.

759
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: I agree, And the way that they look at each

760
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: other and like side eye each other and you know,

761
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: kind of like roll their eyes she's talking, they're just like,

762
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, I think she Nie says, make

763
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: up with Tom and move on.

764
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, just make up with Tom, because I don't think.

765
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we haven't watched from the beginning,

766
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: but there doesn't seem to be a ton of love

767
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: from Ariana to Shina. And I know that Katie used

768
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: to hate Shena well, I don't.

769
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 3: Know if you used to is the correct word, because

770
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 3: the way they sia each other, I feel like it's

771
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: currently Yeah, it might be in present for.

772
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: Him, but somehow they get through the meditation.

773
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: But then they go on, they decide the Tahoe group

774
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: takes a ride on some gondolas. Sandoval, Schwartz, and Brock

775
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: are in one together while the rest of the group

776
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: or in another. Sandoval once again defends his action, saying

777
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: he and Rachel never did anything to intentionally hurt Anyone

778
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: points out that Santoval's team tried to lie about Brock

779
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: hooking up with Rachel during the height of scandival to

780
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: take some of the heat off of him.

781
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Do we believe this?

782
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: Which part the part where for a while it was

783
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: like implied that Brock was also had hooked up with

784
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Rachel because Rachel just goes in trying to steal everybody's boyfriends.

785
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that, so Brock did. He

786
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: didn't actually hook up.

787
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: No, but Brock was telling Tom, Hey, because of this,

788
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: your team started planting stories about me, So yeah, I

789
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: also could have hooked up with Rachel.

790
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Tom said, no way, his team did that.

791
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: That's absolutely untrue. What never happened.

792
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: I've met Tom's team. I'm not sure they're listen. I

793
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: love Tom's team, very nice gentlemen. You saw them at

794
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: Tom's birthday. I'm not sure they're savvy enough to make

795
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: that story. Just sit around and calculate that story and

796
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: then put it out there. Sorry. I think that story

797
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: born because Sheena made a big deal last year saying

798
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: I would trust Rachel laying in bed with Brock and

799
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: not worry about it, And so I think that's how

800
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: the story started, not because Tom's team was like.

801
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, deflection over here.

802
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Getting back to Katie and Arianna hiring.

803
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: This was last July. Where are they? Where are they working?

804
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, But you know what, it's hard to

805
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: watch that scene knowing that they still aren't open. Yeah,

806
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: I mean, and then they were like complaining about how

807
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: the woman took over Enny many steps. They're so mad

808
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: at Penny. But then I'm like, but when Penny was

809
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: done asking questions, that would be your opportunity to also

810
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: ask questions. But they're just like, bye, nice to meet you, Yeah,

811
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 3: bye bye.

812
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: They're two booked up being pissed at Penny and Sheena,

813
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: and that they're not on the Tahoe trip, and that

814
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: this is the one thing they're filming, hiring people from

815
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: a business that's still not open. Like it's it's rough.

816
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: It's rough going out there, and I like those girls.

817
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: It's just. But also things I need to know. Is

818
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Penny still on the payroll? I want to know are

819
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: they are they paying rent? Are they still currently paying rent?

820
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: Have they been paying rent this entire time? And does

821
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: the big deal tie work there? Is he just making

822
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: the big bill time? Is he just making salami sandwiches

823
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: on his downtime just in case, like preparing himself.

824
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 5: He's like, screw you four seasons, there's a t I

825
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: might get a shot and to say which shop.

826
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: So let's hope he didn't put in his letter of

827
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: resignation right after that interview, because otherwise he screwed Santam's

828
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to send him paypals too. Yep, poor guy.

829
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Then they're on the boat. Things are starting to come unraveled.

830
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: Half the boat being drunk and the other half being

831
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: sober is a little bit rough. It's rough going the

832
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: fact that they're needing to do shots of oxygen just

833
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: to get the through it, tequila, I need oxygen. I

834
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: thought it was a whipp it. At first, I was like,

835
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: they're showing this.

836
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: I did too, because he's like, that's some good stuff.

837
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: I was like, And then I was like, oh, that

838
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: isn't whipped cream, that's just oxygen.

839
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: Take from this oxygen.

840
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: But Sina starts to cry and admit she can't keep

841
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: hating Tom for Ariana. Katie and Ariana aren't remorseful at all.

842
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: If I had a tear for every time she cried

843
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: this episode in regards to Sandoval, I'd be rich enough

844
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: not to do this pod anymore.

845
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: You could just resign.

846
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: I was right now, I'm done, bye bye. And then

847
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: we've got what about James Hard launching the return of

848
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: Hippie or Graham or whatever his name is by posting

849
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: the photo on the boat and Ali panicking because she's like,

850
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: this means it's real. Yeah, now we've made it official.

851
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: The next dog that how'd you feel about Shorts hitting

852
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: on the boat attendee.

853
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 3: I've founded amusing. I felt like she's forced into being nice, though,

854
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: because if you're hitting on someone on camera, like I

855
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: feel like they are kind of forced to go along

856
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: with it. Well, clearly she didn't feel two forced because

857
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: we never saw her back at the house for the

858
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: cookoff later.

859
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, that's hard, that's true. She was being nice though.

860
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: She was like, oh yeah, okay, She's like sure, yeah,

861
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: whatever good?

862
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 3: Did you wash your feet in the ocean? I was, yeah,

863
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: maybe it's some dirty feet. That was a turnoff.

864
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Then we get to this is the I think that

865
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: probably the best part of the episode, where Santaval and

866
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: La La start to really get into it. Lah has

867
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of been taking a back seat, but she essentially

868
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: wants an apology from Tom because Tom has always had

869
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: an issue with things that Lala has done, and he's

870
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: saying that she needs to be honest about her life.

871
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: But even when saying this, he was currently having an

872
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: affair with Rachel, Right.

873
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on?

874
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: Like I when I watched these shows and when I

875
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, when I talk to you, I think sometimes

876
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: we can all be hypocrites.

877
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he was that he was a hypocrite,

878
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: But I think I think she made a good point

879
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: and it made sense when she was talking about it,

880
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: and I could tell that all she wanted was a

881
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: recognition that he was hypocritical. And that he made a

882
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: confident about her not being real while he's having an

883
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: affair with someone in their friend group. I feel like

884
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: that was an opportunity for him to just show a

885
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: little vulnerability in some humanity and say, you're absolutely right,

886
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: that was totally out of line.

887
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: I was lying, I.

888
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: Was being deceitful, I was trying to deflect and right,

889
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: and I shouldn't have done that, and now I see it.

890
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: But instead he just he just goes into her, and

891
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: that's why he pisses people off, and that's why you

892
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: can only like him for a limited amount of time

893
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: and you feel badly for him, but it's only in

894
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: short spurts because then he says really dumb stuff again,

895
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: and then you're back at square one again.

896
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: If what I feel like when you watch him, if

897
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: you start having conversations with him and everything is sold

898
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: and kind and you're not accusatory, he can handle it.

899
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: But the second you start to put any blame on

900
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: him and he isn't choosing it to do it himself

901
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: to start, he blows yeah, and like it's I mean

902
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the fact that even he talks about La La in

903
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: an article the day he and Rachel got caught. He

904
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: even corrected her and said, oh, it was the day before,

905
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: it was the day of, Like, how could you even do.

906
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: That to me?

907
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: And then Sandoval tries defending himself, saying he kept a

908
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: seven month relationship private, why Lala kept her six year

909
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: relationship quiet for a few years.

910
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: I mean, they get into a screaming fight.

911
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't appear that he really starts to understand what

912
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Laala saying at all until Sheina gets involved.

913
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she has to break it down. I mean,

914
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: I guess he didn't understand what Lala was saying from

915
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: the get go, and I think maybe that's why he

916
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: got heated. I guess I can maybe change too much.

917
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 3: Maybe he needs the lay off the oxygen. Yeah, it's

918
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: like sometimes I have too much oxygen.

919
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm like what.

920
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, But he did do the same

921
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: to James at the party. He doesn't he is so

922
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: stuck in living in the world of the show that

923
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: he can't also like compartmentalize and say, yes, this did

924
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: happen at one point in our relationship, with our friendships,

925
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: this is what I recently did, right.

926
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: So you're saying it at his birthday party when James

927
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: came and was talking to him and he's like, but you,

928
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: So he turns it around.

929
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: You hooked up with Kristen eleven years ago or whatever?

930
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: It was, right right, Like, there's always that. But I

931
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: think that when you do something shitty, that tends to

932
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: be what you want to do. You want to find

933
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: other people that did shitty things.

934
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you want to bring up the shitty

935
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: things that they did and throw it out there to

936
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: deflect from the shitty thing.

937
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: That you did.

938
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: But I guess it comes down to whoever did the

939
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: shittiest thing currently they just have to deal with that. Yeah,

940
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: we've already worked through the shitty things you guys have

941
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 3: done in years past. We're on this great thing, right, well,

942
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 3: your shitty thing.

943
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then we get they seem to have like

944
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of a breakthrough. They seem fine. She does call

945
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: sand of all scary, saying he doesn't take accountability. She

946
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: starts to see like patterns that she's not comfortable with.

947
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: But then we're back to Sena having another mental breakdown

948
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: about the picture she took with the fan.

949
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

950
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like, because I've been there too,

951
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you have too, you can't help the

952
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: social media mob. Like whatever someone thinks at some point,

953
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 3: there's nothing you could do about it. The only thing

954
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: you can do. Shane always says, you need to just

955
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: put your phone down and give it seventy two hours

956
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: and then they move on to something else. You can't,

957
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: you can't mentally just get into it and read all

958
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: the comments and cry over it because it is what

959
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: it is. And when you put yourself out there, when

960
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: you're on a reality show, when you're out taking pictures

961
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: with fans, it happens.

962
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: It happens to all of us.

963
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Well. I feel like if I were to read my mentions,

964
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: I would also be in the meadows. Maybe you should

965
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: read them so that she feels better, Like I'd be like, sorry, Emle,

966
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going months, so you're gonna go and

967
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: hang out with Rachel or you gonna have to do

968
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: somewhere you have together. You cannot go to my mentions

969
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: like I can't know way and like, especially on a

970
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: trip on camera all the things, you don't go to

971
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: the mentions.

972
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: Or you can. Really you could really live life on

973
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: the edge if you just get rid of all your

974
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: what is it your band words, your lists of band words,

975
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: if you can just delete them all for like a

976
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: week and see what happens.

977
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: The sadness I would feel my getting all those clown

978
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: faces like the nothing gives me more joy than knowing

979
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: that I blocked the clown face and like you, no matter.

980
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 2: What you try to do, I can't get it in there.

981
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 4: You.

982
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: I will never see the clown face. No, not happening.

983
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: But I also want to know what's wrong with me

984
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: that that face really offends me that much.

985
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't know you get you get it that often? Oh,

986
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: I got it like you're a clown, You're a clown.

987
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: And then the face like I just think the face

988
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: is so rotten, Like I just don't want to see

989
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: that face, Like what you need to do? But I

990
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: don't need to see the face.

991
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: But she.

992
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: Says Ariana isn't coming to her defense, which said, I'm like, no,

993
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: ship of course she's not going to come to your defense.

994
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: But then sheen EVNSD to Lala that Ariana never validates

995
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: her conflicting emotions with sand of all.

996
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's never going to happen. Yeah never.

997
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: Hello, listen, I also do not have a high IQ,

998
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: but I know that that is not going to happen.

999
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: Never.

1000
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: Then, during Laala's confessionals, she says Ariana needs to pull

1001
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: her head out of her ash. She needs to remember

1002
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: who her friends are and they've done for her. Then

1003
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Sheena asked why they can never have a moment that's

1004
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: about her. She's tired of everything revolving around Ariana.

1005
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: And then that's what finally, finally, I feel like people

1006
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 3: are actually saying what they're finally thinking.

1007
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: But I do think Sheena totally so like told on

1008
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: herself by saying she wanted to be on Dancing with

1009
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: the Stars, but she just was happy for her friend.

1010
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for her. I'm just so happy. I'm

1011
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: so happy for her. I can't wait for eleven years,

1012
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: but I'm thrilled. But she got so happy, she got it,

1013
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: Like I was like, Okay, here we go. We finally

1014
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: got to the real story.

1015
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: But I'm so happy. I'm good as gold. I'm so

1016
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: happy for her.

1017
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: But I do think things are picking up. I do

1018
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: think things are picking up.

1019
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: Yes they are. It's definitely get better.

1020
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: It's getting better. But I do wonder what happens when

1021
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: they get home from Tahoe, because we see Joe into

1022
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: the mix with shorts, which is clear what we predicted

1023
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: was right, that they're friends with benefits and now she

1024
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: wants to take things to the next level and he's

1025
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: not having it.

1026
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: No, i'still in love with Katie. No, I don't think so.

1027
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't feel that, do you. I don't know. Like

1028
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: the way he was.

1029
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Talking about her when Brock was blackout wasted, he didn't

1030
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: have a good response, but he just kept saying she

1031
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: liked me when I had nothing. It makes me feel

1032
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: like all of the relationships he's had now that he

1033
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: is I guess something. I don't know, feel like people

1034
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: are just with him because he's on a television show.

1035
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe he's That's the one thing he's missing

1036
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: from that relationship was the authenticity of it, even if

1037
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: it's not her, but the level of authenticity, because he's

1038
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: clearly not getting that now.

1039
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: No, clearly, No, absolutely not. I mean especially not from

1040
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the girl from the boat. She never showed up.

1041
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: Unless she showed up and they were like, look, we

1042
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: don't need you to film me. Have enough going on

1043
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: right now.

1044
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: She is crying law laws, fighting with standalball.

1045
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 5: We don't bleed you text messages also, did you notice

1046
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: that they've blurred out part of those text messages.

1047
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: Sorry on it again, like don't please, don't like you know,

1048
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: try to pull us. I can read, and I can

1049
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: see when you're blurring stuff out or only reading half

1050
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: of a sentence.

1051
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1052
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: Again, maybe it has to do a production I don't know,

1053
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: or filming. You don't think so, Yeah, I mean it

1054
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: probably does, but I would like to see the full text.

1055
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I also don't mind breaking the fourth wall.

1056
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't mind it at all.

1057
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: I feel like the trend now is to do that

1058
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: more often, don't you think?

1059
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a problem with it.

1060
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: Loah, love it, don't mind it, but I am curious

1061
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: to see where it goes from here once they're all

1062
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: back in LA with Hippie and all the people doing

1063
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: all the things.

1064
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: But Hippie anyway, is that a better name than Graham?

1065
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. No. Also, it doesn't naturally come. It's not

1066
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: like I knew the dog Graham. It's not like Graham's

1067
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: but like Graham. He looks like a Graham cracker, he does,

1068
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: but Hippy Graham is always on a tight lea. She

1069
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: also noticed the Graham maybe a touch of truth to

1070
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Rachel's story because.

1071
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: They never have that Graham just roaming around. No, I'm

1072
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: surprised he doesn't have like an E caller on too,

1073
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: like a shocker.

1074
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys, thanks for tuning in to

1075
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: another episode of Popping Off. We hope you enjoyed. Please

1076
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: ask any questions or anything that you need from us,

1077
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: and we will do our best to annoy you.

1078
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: And don't DM her saying that I'm mean is now

1079
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: shot to pretend to be nice, which she but it

1080
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: has to be nice and I don't like it.

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,800
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