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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Our number two of the program we roll on. Want

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Speaker 1: to get right to our guest at the top of

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Speaker 1: this hour. He is the Governor of the state of Texas,

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Speaker 1: Greg Abbott, and Governor, appreciate you making the time for us,

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Speaker 1: and I'll go right to the news of the day

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Speaker 1: to hear from you the absolute latest on the border deaths.

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Speaker 1: What are the numbers? What do you know about the

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Speaker 1: latest as it pertains to that awful story that took

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Speaker 1: over basically everything last night in terms of people reacting

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Speaker 1: to it. Well, Clay Grayson, visit with you again and listen.

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Speaker 1: What happened is absolutely devastating, but also absolutely predictable because

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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's up from border policies where he's doing

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to enforce the immigration laws of the United States.

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Speaker 1: And when the President refuses to enforce the immigration laws,

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Speaker 1: that empowers the cartels, and nobody comes across the border

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Speaker 1: without the assistance of the cartels. The cartels assisted these

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Speaker 1: people to get across the border, and then they get

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Speaker 1: picked up on the Texas side by either a cartel

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Speaker 1: member or someone working in conjunction with a smuggling operation,

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Speaker 1: and they put these people into a truck like this

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Speaker 1: and drove it to where it was eventually located. With

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Speaker 1: regard to the numbers of people involved and things like that. There,

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Speaker 1: I just got through talking right before I talk to

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Speaker 1: you with the head of the Texas a Private of

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Speaker 1: Public Safety, and that they are still working to finalize

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Speaker 1: some factual details, and so I'm not going to send

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Speaker 1: to give you something that would be a guesswork. All

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Speaker 1: I can tell you is this, what happened is a

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Speaker 1: crime in the set of Texas, and we are working

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Speaker 1: to make sure that we can locate anybody and everybody

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Speaker 1: who deserves to be prosecuted for this crime. But also

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Speaker 1: what I can tell you is that these deaths are

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Speaker 1: on Joe Biden because of Joe Biden's policies that attract

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Speaker 1: people to come across the borders signaling that the border

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Speaker 1: is open, and people make this very dangerous trek coming

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Speaker 1: across the border having no idea that they're going to

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Speaker 1: be going into a situation where they could lose their

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Speaker 1: lives like this. This tragedy occurred because of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: reckless policies. Americans need to understand that Governor Rabbitt's back

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. The Biden administration doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: to want to do anything to change the reality at

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Speaker 1: the border for the better, meaning law and order, security

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Speaker 1: and orderly process for legal admission into the country. What

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Speaker 1: would it look like. I mean, let's just assume I

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Speaker 1: was talking to Clay before about this, that Democrats are

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Speaker 1: so beaten down after the midterm elections that they're finally

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Speaker 1: increase in border security. What could be done, Governor I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's if you had a willing partner on the federal side,

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Speaker 1: what would it look like to secure the border for

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Speaker 1: your state, in all the border states? So buff we

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Speaker 1: don't have to like guess or you know, postulary about this.

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Speaker 1: We know exactly what could be done, because it was

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Speaker 1: literally as recent as a year and a half ago

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Speaker 1: Hasn't led to multi decade lows and the number of

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Speaker 1: people coming across the border. And what President Trump did,

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Speaker 1: he did four or five things that can be replicated

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Speaker 1: by any president. One he built a wall to implemented

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Speaker 1: Mexico policy for he ended catching release. But maybe most prolifically,

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Speaker 1: he sent a message that we're not going to accept

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration more and that is what led to the

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Speaker 1: multi decade lows. And so buck listen, it's not hard

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Speaker 1: to do this, and we we experienced this in the

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Speaker 1: a president of the United States who will do that.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you this. You know, some of

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Speaker 1: us can start, if not now, pretty soon with regard

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Speaker 1: to changing and corraling what the bid administration is doing,

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Speaker 1: Secretary Homeland Security Secretary in ma Yorcus last night he

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Speaker 1: and he's doing nothing more than lying to the American people,

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Speaker 1: be investigations every single day about the bid administration's failure

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Speaker 1: back and a point that you kind of also brought up.

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Speaker 1: There are political consequences for this for the right administration.

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Speaker 1: And you've already seen those political consequences because you saw

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Speaker 1: want people in office to step up and do something

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Speaker 1: the United States of America. We're talking to Governor of Texas,

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Speaker 1: Greg Abbotts. I want to ask you. You're talking all

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Speaker 1: also energy policy, oil and gas, obviously in Texas is

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Speaker 1: massively important, not only to your state account, but to

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Speaker 1: the national economy. You've got a letter that you wrote

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Speaker 1: having that you say could jeopardize a quarter of the

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Speaker 1: nation's gas supply based on Permian Basin policies he's putting

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Speaker 1: in place. What should our audience know about what's going

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Speaker 1: is I called out President Biden for his duplicity. You know,

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Speaker 1: President Biden is trying to tell people Americans who are

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Speaker 1: doing everything you can to reduce the price of the pump.

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Speaker 1: But Americans do not know what I'm about to tell

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Speaker 1: your audience right now. And that is recently, like last week,

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Speaker 1: the EPA under the Biden administration issued a Discretionary Act

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Speaker 1: in the Permian Basin. The Permian Basin is the largest

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Speaker 1: while Biden is going over to Saudi Arabia begging them

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Speaker 1: for more oil. What Biden is doing makes no sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: of the Uvalde shooting, after a law enforcement response and

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Speaker 1: and so there's real time gathering of information about exactly

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Speaker 1: to know this. The Texas Rangers are the lead investigator

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Speaker 1: an investigation. We want all of these investigations and we

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Speaker 1: Greg Abbott, Governor, appreciate you being with us today, sir,

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Speaker 1: That is a pretty interesting buck. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: Mayorchis should be impeached. The tragedy Bacurd at the border

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Speaker 1: a long time. I imagine that you're feeling that momentum

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Speaker 1: of a red wave in New York as well. Can

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Speaker 1: a Republicans win a statewide office in New York in

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Speaker 1: your opinion? And why not? Only can we win, we

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Speaker 1: are going to win. I would not be in this

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Speaker 1: race otherwise I have to give up my seat in

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Speaker 1: the House of Representatives to make this run. My running mate,

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Speaker 1: our state's next Lieutenant governor. Esposito was over twenty four

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Speaker 1: years in the NYPD. She was the commanding officer of

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Speaker 1: the seventieth Precinct in Brooklyn, and she had to retire,

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Speaker 1: not just to be our states next lieutenant governor. She

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Speaker 1: had to retire to be our candidate to be our

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Speaker 1: state's next lieutenant governor. So Alison and I are all in.

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Speaker 1: We saw November second, while everybody was looking at the

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Speaker 1: Virginia governor's race all throughout New York, so much flipped

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Speaker 1: from blue to red. And I think that the climate

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Speaker 1: has actually only gotten better since November second of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, I wouldn't be in this race if

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel like everything was set up right for

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Speaker 1: this race to finish in first. For me, my mentality

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Speaker 1: is that losing is not an option. The only option

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Speaker 1: is for us to win. And I'm all in. We're

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Speaker 1: speaking of Leezelden. He's running for governor in New York

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Speaker 1: today as primary day in the Empire State. And Lee,

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Speaker 1: I want to know because people listening, as you know,

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Speaker 1: all over the country. We've got lots of folks on

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Speaker 1: our various affiliates here in New York, which is important

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Speaker 1: because the primary day. But it seems that there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a trend here going into the general election

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Speaker 1: in November where you're going to have people who are

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Speaker 1: switching over right people who were Democrats. Maybe the last

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Speaker 1: time around. This time around they're going to change it up.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe they were just sitting on the fence and

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Speaker 1: now they're going to come down on the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: In New York, who do you see winning over? I mean,

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Speaker 1: give us the sense of when you're out there talking

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Speaker 1: to people who's coming over to vote Republican this time around,

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Speaker 1: to vote for you this time around that may not

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Speaker 1: have been the traditional you know, because you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: those if you're gonna beat hocal in a state that's

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Speaker 1: Democrat more than Republican. Listen, I love the question right

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Speaker 1: to the heart of it. In New York, A lot

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Speaker 1: of people look at the registration of Democrats to Republicans

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Speaker 1: and often don't look at the millions of voters who

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Speaker 1: aren't Republican or Democrat. In twenty eighteen, the last time

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Speaker 1: there is a midterm election of the sitting president, the

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Speaker 1: independents were leaning left of center. Now they're leaning right

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Speaker 1: of center. Not only are they leaning right of center,

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Speaker 1: but there's an enthusiasm gap. The people who plan on

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Speaker 1: people who are planning to vote Democrat. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot more disenfranchised Democrats. We're going into a midterm in

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Speaker 1: New York where, for the first time in my lifetime,

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Speaker 1: we have a midterm election with one party Democratic rule

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Speaker 1: in DC, Albany and New York City. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it with the Asian American community. They are

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Speaker 1: whether it's the quality of education for their kids or

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Speaker 1: it's crime in public safety because many different members of

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Speaker 1: their community have been getting murdered, targeted, and murdered inside

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Speaker 1: of New York City. I happen to be blessed with

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Speaker 1: a great wife, Diana, and our daughters, Mikaela and Ariana.

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Speaker 1: I have an Asian American family. They're excited about the

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Speaker 1: fact that they have someone from their own community going

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Speaker 1: to be up there in Albany as the first Asian

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Speaker 1: American first family up in Albany. I've seen it with

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Speaker 1: the Hispanic vote inside of not just New York, but

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Speaker 1: across the country. I believe that we're going to win

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Speaker 1: the Hispanic vote, and I'm just sharing these thoughts to

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Speaker 1: answer your question. I believe we'll do better with the

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Speaker 1: black vote than what we've seen in the past. I

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Speaker 1: last week was inside of Harlem at Sylvia's meeting with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of community members for a lunch, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to keep doing that to earn their support. Also,

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Speaker 1: i'd be the first Jewish Republican governor of New York.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a tremendous amount of support coming in from

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Speaker 1: the Jewish community, efforts to combat anti Semitism, efforts to

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Speaker 1: make our streets more secure, and to promote school choice

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people in their community and others

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Speaker 1: pursue non public options and they all should have access

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Speaker 1: to the highest quality education possible. So all of this

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Speaker 1: and more presents an opportunity when the Democrats are doing

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Speaker 1: so much damage, you have people looking elsewhere for the solutions. Lee,

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Speaker 1: if you win mask mandates over four kids and anyone

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Speaker 1: else in the state of New York. We saw that

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Speaker 1: was one of the first things that was able to

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Speaker 1: happen when Glenn Yunkin won in Virginia, made a tremendous

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Speaker 1: impact there. I'm presuming for you this would be the

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Speaker 1: case as well. Yeah, I'm against all COVID mandates. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe that there should be mask mandates. There shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be vaccine mandates, there shouldn't be vaccine passports. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody should have been fired for what is a

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Speaker 1: personal decision of whether or not to get the shot.

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Speaker 1: My attitude is, if you want to get it, get it.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to get it, don't get it.

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Speaker 1: But where Kathy Hopel and I definitely disagree here is

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Speaker 1: and go get it. I look at New Yorkers as

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Speaker 1: I don't look at them the way that she does.

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Speaker 1: I believe that public service is about serving the public.

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Speaker 1: It's not about being served by the public. So we

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Speaker 1: see a clear contrast on many different fronts. This is

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Speaker 1: one of them. Respect freedom, respect individual liberty. You give

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Speaker 1: people information, they make their own decisions. If you want

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Speaker 1: to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't

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Speaker 1: want to wear a mask, don't wear a mask. But

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Speaker 1: on day one, every last COVID mandate that we could

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Speaker 1: possibly get rid of is gone. Leezeldon running for governor

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Speaker 1: in New York congressions Elton, great to have you, Shart

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. You got next next time,

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Speaker 1: Clay is Gavin Newsom gonna make a run at it,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats realizing that Biden doesn't have it in him.

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Speaker 1: We got that and much more coming up in a

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Speaker 1: rock and third hour Stay with Us, Flat Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front Lines. Third hour of the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travisan Bucked Sexton Show underway, my friends, and so

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Speaker 1: is the January sixth Committee hearing up on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: You had a former aid to Mark Meadows. Mark Meadows

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Speaker 1: a very nice guy, but some of his top people

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Speaker 1: not particularly loyal. It's gonna throw that out there. You've

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Speaker 1: just trash not just Trump, but you know, essentially switched parties,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing all that's important to bring to your attention

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Speaker 1: other than this is I've realized this is like Days

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Speaker 1: of Our Lives for NPR listeners, meaning this this is

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Speaker 1: like a soap opera they put on now during the

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Speaker 1: day where everyone just is the insurrection and all the

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Speaker 1: all the liberal wine moms with cats not actually children. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're they're at home going oh no, not another insurrection.

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Speaker 1: What will we ever do? There's people were taking selfies,

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Speaker 1: they were wandering around aimlessly. Um. And yes, of course

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Speaker 1: and that was bad and they shouldn't do that and

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Speaker 1: they should be punished for it. But Clay, nothing, nothing

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Speaker 1: big coming out of these hearings other than they're saying

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Speaker 1: person who is testifying today is a woman named Abby Hutchinson.

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Speaker 1: She's only I believe twenty five years old and she's

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Speaker 1: testifying cast sorry, Cassidy Hutchinson. She's testifying right now based

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Speaker 1: on January six, twenty twenty one, after the rally, that

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Speaker 1: And again, just to reiterate, Trump has not been the

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Speaker 1: Trump on some level. We've talked about this, buck Ron,

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Speaker 1: you as well. We believe that it's going to end

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Speaker 1: up Trump versus de Santis if they if they both

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Speaker 1: decide to run, and I think they're both going to

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Speaker 1: decide to run. Those are the two eight hundred pound guerrillas.

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Speaker 1: To these will be some other you know, there'll be

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Speaker 1: some Republicans who want up their speaking fees and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe get a better book deal who will also run.

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Speaker 1: For presidents will run. I think Mike Pompeo is gonna run.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of people who run. But

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Speaker 1: to me right now, the eight hundred pound guerrillas in

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Speaker 1: the ring would be Trump against Rondo san And this

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Speaker 1: goes to a broader narrative that we've seen play out

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Speaker 1: in the era of COVID. I think anybody who's I mean,

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Speaker 1: these different news organizations. It's all about the national level

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Speaker 1: of the attention. Well, because of COVID, we all got

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Speaker 1: a big reminder that your state government actually matters a

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Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot. It's not just what lauded

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Speaker 1: Congress pass, it's what is your governor signing into, not

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Speaker 1: even laws, signing as an executive order. What is your

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Speaker 1: governor doing to you right now when it came to lockdowns,

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Speaker 1: mask mandates, vaccine man, it's all of this. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: some people ended up seeing really good results from their

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Speaker 1: state government. Others, Fortunately, New York falls in this category.

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Speaker 1: I think so does California, al though I don't live there.

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Speaker 1: Saw what happens. What kind of nightmare you can be

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Speaker 1: helm of your state government, Really bad things can happen.

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Speaker 1: And I think that sets up an interesting scenario. For first,

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Speaker 1: let's just start with this. Even the Democrats are aware

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Speaker 1: of the blaringly obvious reality that Joe Biden is two

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Speaker 1: go with two is too many, too old, and too unpopular.

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Speaker 1: This is an issue on Joe Biden's mind. He is

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Speaker 1: deeply frustrated by what he viewsed as the sort of

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Speaker 1: lack of respect from the president from also from his

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Speaker 1: fellow Democrats about his intent to run for reelection. He

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Speaker 1: can't figure out why folks won't take yes for an inswert.

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Speaker 1: You and I know why that is. It's because he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be eighty one years old in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: He's already the oldest American president, and real doubts about

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Speaker 1: his capacity to serve a second for your term. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there should have been those real doubts before his first term, Clay,

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about so many times. But Democrats are

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Speaker 1: ruthless and what power and they didn't care. But more

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Speaker 1: to the point, now we're seeing something line up here

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Speaker 1: where you have only really two heavyweights at the state

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Speaker 1: level representing the different different party narratives here, Republican and Democrat,

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Speaker 1: and this could lead to a very different showdown if

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Speaker 1: none of the presidential election coming up, certainly in the

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Speaker 1: meantime about whether Democrats or Republicans did a better job

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Speaker 1: on the pandemic specifically and talking about Gavin Newsom of California,

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Speaker 1: who you pointed out yesterday could be running, and of

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Speaker 1: course Governor Ronda Santis of Florida people realize that state

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Speaker 1: government really matters. Those two individuals. They're from a different generation.

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Speaker 1: As we've discussed, Newsome will be I mean, Ronda Santis

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Speaker 1: something like that. Newsom is going to be what he's

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Speaker 1: in his late fifties, I think right now something. Oh see,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know he was that old. Yeah, he's older. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, spends a lot, spends a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look good for the cameras. DeSantis is

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Speaker 1: like forty two. He's your Santis is my exact amage.

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Speaker 1: So DeSantis graduated from a high school in ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: even the last presidential election cycle from the Democrat side.

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Speaker 1: There's really nobody else who has the political base that

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Speaker 1: Newsom would bring to the table for the Democrats. Who's

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Speaker 1: a national level name, who has doubled and tripled down

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Speaker 1: on COVID, lockdown's masks, all that stuff. And if he

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Speaker 1: goes up against DeSantis, I mean, it would be a

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Speaker 1: clash of the opposing political titans from the state level,

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Speaker 1: and the reason why all this is starting to happen. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I said, and we had a discussion that at some

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Speaker 1: be the first person to say I'm going to take

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Speaker 1: on Joe Biden. I'm going to primary him. One way

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Speaker 1: this thing plays out is Biden decides he pulls a

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Speaker 1: LBJ says I will not run, and then you have

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Speaker 1: a wide open primary like happened with LBJ in I

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Speaker 1: guess sixty eight, right, LBJ just says I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not running, even though I would be eligible for reelection.

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Speaker 1: I'm out. And this was what I saw yesterday. Buck

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has placed. This is according to Ad Impact Politics,

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Speaker 1: which does a good job covering where political ads are

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Speaker 1: being bought and whatnot. California Governor Gavin Newsom just placed,

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Speaker 1: they said, a statewide cable buy in Florida, with ads

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Speaker 1: beginning to air on July fourth. Now you might be

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Speaker 1: sitting back, if you're listening to us, say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: why would the governor of California be buying any ads

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Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. Well, one thing would be

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Speaker 1: too gig and get after Donald Trump, who watches a

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Speaker 1: lot of Florida television from Mara Lago. Another thing would be,

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Speaker 1: to your point, Buck, that we would basically have American

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Speaker 1: COVID politics writ large, where Newsome who is the biggest

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Speaker 1: surviving governor because remember a former left wing hero Andrew

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Speaker 1: Cuomo has been pulled from office or has voluntarily resigned

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Speaker 1: from office as a scandal. And now we got Kathy Hokel.

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Speaker 1: But the other side of this equation is you have

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Speaker 1: got Rhonda Santis, who was the most successful at handling

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Speaker 1: COVID of any state. And by the way, thanks to

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Speaker 1: ninety sixty three one oh two five, I'm at Panama

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Speaker 1: City down in Florida. I broadcast from here a decent

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Speaker 1: amount because we have a home just stuff the road

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Speaker 1: here on the Gulf Coast of Florida that I spend

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Speaker 1: a decent time on. So I spent back in May

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, Buck, I brought my family down to

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Speaker 1: Florida for the entire month and worked from here. And

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Speaker 1: this would be an epic DeSantis versus Trump battle, sorry

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Speaker 1: de Santis versus potentially Newsome battle. And tying this in

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Speaker 1: with January sixth, which is going on right now. Democrats

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Speaker 1: think in this third impeachment taught trial of Donald Trump, oh,

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Speaker 1: we are destroying Republicans' chances in twenty twenty four. That's

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Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. They are trying desperately to

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Speaker 1: destroy Republican chances in twenty twenty four. What if an

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Speaker 1: attacking Trump, they're elevating other challengers who may be as

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Speaker 1: strong as Trump as well in the Republican Party. You

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Speaker 1: always have to be careful because buck right now, we

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Speaker 1: got the primary thirty five million dollars Democrats have spent

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Speaker 1: to try to pay their primary opponents in Illinois. In

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Speaker 1: other states they're trying to pick primary opponents. Gotta be

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Speaker 1: careful when you're trying to meddle in internal politics on

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Speaker 1: the other side, because sometimes you end up picking somebody

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Speaker 1: who kicks your ass in an election, right you gotta

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Speaker 1: be careful. And speaking of some of those elections that

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Speaker 1: they're already putting a lot of money into to try

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Speaker 1: to shape how it will all go, I'm hearing people say,

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to talk some outliers Washington State

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Speaker 1: right now, Senate campaign Democrats not feeling good about it.

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Speaker 1: Colorado state right now, Democrats not feeling good about some

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Speaker 1: of the races that are going to be determined there.

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Speaker 1: I'm even here, I'm even hearing people say it's not

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Speaker 1: crazy to think the Oregon governor's race could get interest

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Speaker 1: during Times lead with that this morning about how nervous

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Speaker 1: they are about what might happen in Oregon, where I

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Speaker 1: don't believe a Democrat has won statewide in the governor's race.

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Speaker 1: It's like a Republican as once. Yes, sorry, yes, yeah, um.

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Speaker 1: And even some people are saying Illinois could get kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting too. So now didn't look these we're talking

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Speaker 1: long shots here. These are not This is not like

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Speaker 1: put your money on it and sleep well at night.

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Speaker 1: This is these are these are pretty much long shots

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Speaker 1: right now. But I do think that for the example,

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Speaker 1: the New York Times with Oregon, they're they're trying to

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Speaker 1: raise the alarm because I think there's a somnambulance on

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Speaker 1: the Democrats side. We look at you, son ambulance. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes sometimes you got to throw it in there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And and I think that people on the on the

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Speaker 1: left are just assuming, yeah, we're gonna lose, but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an off year. This could be way beyond

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Speaker 1: just an off year election cycle, Clay. There could be

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Speaker 1: and and I say could very likely will be more

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Speaker 1: Republican governors of the fifty states at one time than

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Speaker 1: we have seen in decades. I think it will be

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Speaker 1: close to the all time record. We could be at

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Speaker 1: something like third thirty one, thirty two Republican governors in

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Speaker 1: the states. So and then you add into this the

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Speaker 1: shift in school board elections, which I know people think, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, school board election, dogcatcher. No, school board elections

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Speaker 1: gonna be yeah, you know, we had an off year

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Speaker 1: or whatever it happens. The party in power who this

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Speaker 1: could be way beyond that. To your point on the

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Speaker 1: number of governors that could be in play, we talked

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Speaker 1: have the largest number of Republicans in the House of

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Speaker 1: Representatives since nineteen twenty eight. Let me repeat that, because

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Speaker 1: it's a record scratch moment I think for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, if Republicans win thirty five seats, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's a reasonable target, then Republicans would have the

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Speaker 1: largest number of House seats that they have had since

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Speaker 1: before the Great Depression, going all the way back to

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight, almost a hundred year high in the

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Speaker 1: number of Republicans that would be in the House. To

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Speaker 1: your point, Buck, almost one hundred year high in terms

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Speaker 1: And some of these Senate seats, some of these Senate

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Speaker 1: some favorites who lose that nobody even thought it was

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Speaker 1: possible they might lose. So I just want to start

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Speaker 1: you got alarm bells going off in Oregon. Buck. One

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Speaker 1: Do you know that in the space of the last

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Speaker 1: three years, murders in Portland have trippled Let me repeat that,

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Speaker 1: because again it's a stat that I think a lot

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Speaker 1: last three years has nearly tripled the number of murders

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