Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three ten, Episode
Speaker 1: three of Diali's I Guys Say production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: American share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, October twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, ten two five two three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's h could be like lost Numbers, I'm or
Speaker 2: something four eight fifteen, sixteen twenty three forty three of
Speaker 2: those lost numbers? Do you actually know that?
Speaker 3: K Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it was a big lot at the time.
Speaker 3: Is fifty sixty two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen fifty six? You got it because it was
Speaker 2: just like a thing that you would that uh, what's
Speaker 2: his face would always be muttering like over and over
Speaker 2: and over, and you're like, you just learned the canes. Anyway,
Speaker 2: It's Greasy Foods Day. I can get down with that.
Speaker 2: International Artists Day. I think we can get down with that.
Speaker 2: And also chucking the Chucky a Killer Doll Day. Oh,
Speaker 2: he's getting to jump on it. Jump on Halloween. Chucky
Speaker 2: is still like, there's still a lot of Chucky.
Speaker 1: Costumes out trick or treating and.
Speaker 2: Stuff relevant iconic. I guess I don't know. I was
Speaker 2: never into Chucky though I feel like I feel like
Speaker 2: I see the resurgence of Chucky's really with the youth
Speaker 2: to the youth them, Yeah, the youth them. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I liked his that that movie really.
Speaker 1: I think it's like really fun in concept, like a
Speaker 1: killer doll is really cool, But then like the is there.
Speaker 2: Is there a great Chucky movie? Hate one? A resident
Speaker 2: film experts.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for seeing me. I think that
Speaker 3: the first one is like really scary and like the
Speaker 3: exact amount of hokey campiness that I want in a
Speaker 3: horror movie while also being genuinely pretty scary.
Speaker 1: Now, I haven't seen it since I was like eight.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's my problem. I watched that shit when I
Speaker 2: was six in nineteen ninety. I remember, like right when
Speaker 2: it came out on tape, but I haven't. I was like, nah,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's because it was too much for my
Speaker 2: six year old brain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need to revisit.
Speaker 2: Yeah with an open mind.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I've seen any of the sequels,
Speaker 3: because I know there's like Bride of Chucky yeah stuff,
Speaker 3: But I think the first one is pretty solid and
Speaker 3: you should revisit as an adult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Sean, my third grade good, very
Speaker 1: good best buddy whose parents had like the greatest vhs
Speaker 1: like self taped at home library. Oh really, that's where
Speaker 1: I saw die Hard way too young. That's where I
Speaker 1: saw Child's Play way too young.
Speaker 2: Wait? So wait was die Hard? What was it ripped
Speaker 2: off of? Like they were just ripping from others?
Speaker 1: They must have been taping it off of like HBO
Speaker 1: or something, because it was there. Weren't like commercial break
Speaker 1: got it there? Like Okay, I wouldn't here if they
Speaker 1: had their own pirate operation, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that reminds me something that annoys me.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: The title of Chucky is actually Child's Play, and it's like,
Speaker 3: why wouldn't you just call it Chucky? The same way
Speaker 3: that why is the movie that should be called Rambo
Speaker 3: actually called First Blood Blood?
Speaker 1: I know that that gets a big jerk off hand
Speaker 1: motion from me.
Speaker 3: First Blood here, okay, but a movie called Rambo sign
Speaker 3: me up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Rambo Rambo two? I mean that's what we
Speaker 2: ended up calling me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, colloquially holy word I can't pronounce. My
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien aka. This is the story of
Speaker 1: a guy who pissed his pants and blamed water ice.
Speaker 1: And while he looks so sad, talking cold gas, I
Speaker 1: absolutely love.
Speaker 2: Him when he smiles.
Speaker 1: That's scarsy a locker roomy.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: He said, I've made a Jack O'Brien double old pee,
Speaker 1: in reference to the time I peed my pants on
Speaker 1: a child's ride with my children and lamon water. Anyways, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I swear I didn't. It wasn't I didn't.
Speaker 2: Just admit to that. Anyways.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: mister Miles Grad Miles Gray.
Speaker 5: A ka A wake up. Now, Where can we put
Speaker 5: the arts because art up? Where to advertise a local startup?
Speaker 5: Where the post this recipe from Grandma pictures from a
Speaker 5: trip to Alabama?
Speaker 2: Not on the front.
Speaker 5: Now, where can we put the new kids art up?
Speaker 5: Not on the fridge? Where to advertise a local startup?
Speaker 5: Not on the on the fridge from Grandma? Not on
Speaker 5: the bridge.
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd trust in my personal style guide.
Speaker 2: A cry when fridges are not magnetized, shout out to
Speaker 2: raise act for that child. Yeah, just giving it again,
Speaker 2: because you know what, keep the fucking refrigerators, magnetized wake
Speaker 2: up people. Indeed, don't make the decision for people if
Speaker 2: they want to use it as a repository for construction
Speaker 2: paper and news clippings. Let that happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: in our third seats by very talented, brighter stand up
Speaker 1: median podcast. So it's the Bechdale Cast, which takes down
Speaker 1: the patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens
Speaker 1: to have a master's degree in film.
Speaker 2: No big deal.
Speaker 1: It happens to be one of one of our favorite
Speaker 1: guests on this podcast.
Speaker 2: No big deal.
Speaker 1: It happens to have the most anagrammable name in the
Speaker 1: English language.
Speaker 2: It's Caitlin Doronta.
Speaker 3: Dracula. I mean, it's just like the season, you.
Speaker 2: Know, miraculous season. What are you going as for.
Speaker 3: Hallowey Oh let me tell you, I honestly should, but
Speaker 3: that'll be that'll have to be next year's costume because
Speaker 3: I don't think I could pull it off in time.
Speaker 3: But this year's costume all time low for laziness. I'm
Speaker 3: making a shirt, which by that I just mean like
Speaker 3: I'm going to find an old white T shirt and
Speaker 3: then just write male ego on it, and then I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take a bunch of like those like fragile stickers
Speaker 3: that you would put on like a bow, like glasses
Speaker 3: or like breakable things, fragile mil ego tea here.
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean it's good though, it's good.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I can't and I'm inevitably like I'm already gonna apologize
Speaker 2: for the shitty dudes or.
Speaker 1: Let me just preemptively.
Speaker 2: That's cool because that's not me. That's why I'm funny.
Speaker 2: I think that is funny too. Any man's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Right, any man who's like upset by that, it's like
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fragile. Yeah, it's like one of those flights,
Speaker 2: like those like outdoor like insect lamps that just brings
Speaker 2: them in and just get sad, like come to the light. Yeah,
Speaker 2: accept the truth, feel the warmth.
Speaker 1: That's so funny, with just dead eyes, no smile, no
Speaker 1: trace of smile.
Speaker 2: Oh you go. Does this resonate with you? No? No? Oh?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does resonate mean? Never mind, sir,
Speaker 2: Just go on your way.
Speaker 1: All right, Caitlyn, We're gonna get to know you. A
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Yet
Speaker 1: another Trumps associate tried to shorten associate to a soce
Speaker 1: and it doesn't It doesn't really work anyways. Jenna Ellis
Speaker 1: has played guilty the third guilty plea just this week.
Speaker 1: Fourth overall. So we're gonna look into that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: look into what that means, and then we're gonna check
Speaker 1: them with Donald Trump and see how he's doing.
Speaker 2: Dude, he's doing five come back to back sound bites
Speaker 2: that are breaking new ground angers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's an artist. He's always pushing, pushing
Speaker 1: the envelope further. Miles has has a reason for me
Speaker 1: to care about the speakership. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, historical precedence. I think that that might resonate.
Speaker 1: That's me when when someone talks about historical precedents, don't care.
Speaker 2: That was you. I thought you were I thought you
Speaker 2: were nodding off. I always am a little bit.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about women in Iceland going on strike,
Speaker 1: but perhaps a effective collective action that maybe should not
Speaker 1: just be an Iceland. We'll talk about a Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. We'll talk about the switch witch all of
Speaker 1: this plenty more, But first, Caitlin Durante, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3: I searched for how to fight a gleoc. I think
Speaker 3: it's maybe how you've pronounced it parentheses tears of the Kingdom.
Speaker 3: So I've been ruining my life recently with the newest
Speaker 3: Zelda game, and there are these three headed dragon type things,
Speaker 3: and I don't know how to do it, so and
Speaker 3: I am not above cheating, and so I look everything
Speaker 3: up on the Internet of how to do the things
Speaker 3: in the game because it's a really hard game. I
Speaker 3: honestly don't even remember what it said. The different gleocs. Again,
Speaker 3: sorry if I'm not pronouncing this correctly. There's like they
Speaker 3: have like different elemental things. So one of them is
Speaker 3: like the fire one, one is the electricity one, one
Speaker 3: is like the ice one. So you have to like
Speaker 3: use other like contrasting elemental weapons and stuff like that
Speaker 3: to fight them. But I know that the frost kind
Speaker 3: of thing exactly. But they have a weak spot and
Speaker 3: I still don't know what it is because I'm too
Speaker 3: afraid to get close enough to them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, do you do the thing? Because I
Speaker 2: when I play video games and I get stuck. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you will see an article that will tell you how
Speaker 2: to cheat, that will not cheat, how to defeat it,
Speaker 2: or the YouTube video where you can be like, hold on,
Speaker 2: how the fuck? Oh do that? Okay? Yeah, it always
Speaker 2: clicks immediately. Sometimes I like to start with the text
Speaker 2: so it doesn't feel like I'm fully just like oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so there's a bit of a challenge. But then I'm
Speaker 2: always frustrated when I see how easy it looks when
Speaker 2: someone else does it, and I'm like, I do I
Speaker 2: fucking suck at everything?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? No?
Speaker 3: I think it's just people who probably have made a
Speaker 3: living at just playing video games and like posting content
Speaker 3: to like teach people how to do it. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: would be good at this.
Speaker 2: Oh that's how you make fiel. It's like, well that's
Speaker 2: your actually, yeah, this loser. Oh you're so good at
Speaker 2: video games. Oh you just lek and one go great,
Speaker 2: good time. Just tell me how to do it? Tell
Speaker 2: me to shut the funk up? What's the secret? Shoot
Speaker 2: them in the fucking eye.
Speaker 3: What No, that's the other thing. That's the big troll guy.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry, who's there is?
Speaker 3: Like I forget what those ones are called, but they're
Speaker 3: these like big guys who are bounding around and they
Speaker 3: have one eyeball and you have to their weak spot
Speaker 3: is their is their eye. So you have to like
Speaker 3: shoot an arrow into their eye and then they fall
Speaker 3: over and then you like bash them with your sword
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah is this with anybody?
Speaker 1: Then you just like kind of knock them over and
Speaker 1: just fucking step one hundred times, like goddamn sword right
Speaker 1: fucking eye fu right in their skull.
Speaker 3: The battles are my least favorite. Yes, exactly, You're right, Miles.
Speaker 3: The battling is like my least favorite part of the game.
Speaker 3: I just want to go around in like forage mushrooms.
Speaker 3: I want to go around and find all the all
Speaker 3: the outfits.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The last person to bring up the game said
Speaker 2: the exact same thing, was like love the other part,
Speaker 2: but also just love to fucking meander and.
Speaker 3: It's really meanderable game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, meander. What is something you think is overrated.
Speaker 3: Because it's spooky movie season. I think ari Astor as
Speaker 3: a filmmaker is a bit overrated.
Speaker 2: The mid Sommar.
Speaker 3: Midsommar Hereditary, and then the one that came out most recently,
Speaker 3: both Afraid Afraid. I didn't see that one. I think
Speaker 3: that he let me clarify. I think he is good
Speaker 3: at making a horror movie that makes me feel very
Speaker 3: scared and unsettled. Because I saw both midsimmartin Hereditarian theaters
Speaker 3: and they were effective horror movies in that I felt
Speaker 3: miserable and scared the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's long enough to just be scared.
Speaker 1: You want to feel worse, just like bad in general,
Speaker 1: like you've got a flu or something.
Speaker 3: Right, I have an emotional I left mids No, I
Speaker 3: left Hereditary with like a migraine headache because I was
Speaker 3: just so tense and like just feeling like hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's a good storyteller. I think
Speaker 3: he's a good director, and I think he gets good performances,
Speaker 3: and I know I think he's like good at I
Speaker 3: guess maybe is he overrated.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just think he's I don't like his screenplays, Like,
Speaker 3: I think he's not a storyteller. I think they're kind
Speaker 3: of sloppy. I think that he doesn't know how to
Speaker 3: write women really at all. Like you know, there's and
Speaker 3: he like his treatment of mental health and mental illness
Speaker 3: is really not good anyway.
Speaker 1: It's really like I think there's a lot of filmmakers
Speaker 1: like that. Now who are They have all the power,
Speaker 1: and the thing they choose to do with that power
Speaker 1: is to just like be like I'm gonna do my
Speaker 1: own little stories, and they would be like so much
Speaker 1: better off just you know, finding finding other people's stories
Speaker 1: to tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like I don't know, send your draft to
Speaker 3: someone and get.
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't need him, because Mark I saw the thing.
Speaker 2: Martin Scorsese is like the pacing from Killers of the
Speaker 2: Flower Moon is like inspired by Midsommar and he's like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, there's the fucking goat and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: wonder what that means for this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this guy's never gonna not make his own
Speaker 1: screenplays after this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're goodbye to anything.
Speaker 1: But like Scorsese, Spielberg, Kubrick, like those people all made
Speaker 1: other people's screenplays like those. You know, you can still
Speaker 1: be a good filmmaker and not just write bad screenplays
Speaker 1: and makers like the.
Speaker 3: Two or However, many scripts that Steven Spielberg wrote are
Speaker 3: like not very good. He's a far better director than
Speaker 3: he screenwriter.
Speaker 1: What are his I actually didn't even know the.
Speaker 3: Oh, let me look it up here. They used to
Speaker 3: know this, but.
Speaker 2: Ai I think oh I was a collaboration with Kubrick,
Speaker 2: which also yeah, like maybe yeah, it's but by Spielberg.
Speaker 2: And then the story by Ian Watson. Close Encounters are
Speaker 2: the third kind, right, that's written and directed by Spielberg.
Speaker 3: Oh, and he wrote The Fableman's which tracks because it's
Speaker 3: like pretty autobious, but.
Speaker 2: It makes sense.
Speaker 3: I like didn't like that movie very much.
Speaker 2: And then Goonies is Chris Columbus based on a story
Speaker 2: by Spielberg. I will, I will give him that one
Speaker 2: oldergeis pretty good, but that's also three people writing with
Speaker 2: a story by Spielberg.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until very recently that Richard Donner made Goonies,
Speaker 1: like directed Goonies. I always thought it was Christopher Columbus
Speaker 1: because he wrote the screenplay. Richard Donner like really was
Speaker 1: responsible for my entire childhood with like Supermanies and Lethal Weapon,
Speaker 1: which I saw way too young. I was like those
Speaker 1: are like my three favorite movies dog Friend, Yeah, those
Speaker 1: hit pretty pretty hard. What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: Kaylin?
Speaker 3: I think that being transparent about why you do not
Speaker 3: want to go on another date with someone, whether that's
Speaker 3: like a second date or maybe you've had a few
Speaker 3: and then you're like, I'm not feeling this. I think
Speaker 3: being transparent about that is something that most people do
Speaker 3: not do. They just say they kind of like make
Speaker 3: up some generic excuse or they and obviously like it's
Speaker 3: a case by case thing, but like I just sent
Speaker 3: a message to someone who I went on a date with.
Speaker 3: It was like pretty good conversation, but we had no
Speaker 3: kissing chemistry. He was not a good kisser, and so
Speaker 3: I kind of said that to him because he's now
Speaker 3: gonna go if like, if someone doesn't tell him right,
Speaker 3: he's just going to go through life being not good
Speaker 3: at kissing or not like tuning into someone else's like
Speaker 3: I don't know kissing energy.
Speaker 2: What got out my high school girlfriend who saved me,
Speaker 2: who said do not keep your motherfucking eyes open? I
Speaker 2: was like kids for me, I'm like, yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: believe this. I'm doing this shit.
Speaker 3: A deer in headlights.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now that my high school girlfriend had to
Speaker 1: tell me to step saying wow wow wow wow.
Speaker 2: No, but that is true. Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you're not trying to be a mean
Speaker 2: spirited I think, just being really honest about why. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're just actually when it came down to
Speaker 2: the kissing part, I just felt like we're not kind
Speaker 2: of we're you know, you're playing jazz and I'm playing
Speaker 2: you know, the Deck of the Titanic music. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: And that is exactly how I would describe how I
Speaker 3: kiss the deck of the Titanic.
Speaker 2: Has It's been an honor of playing with you this evening.
Speaker 1: Mm just melancholy nobility.
Speaker 3: And yes, if you're listening and you have ever kissed
Speaker 3: me and you can attest to that play.
Speaker 2: Yes, full of transparent Embrace of death. Man, it was kissing.
Speaker 2: He was kissing like we were on the deck of
Speaker 2: the Titanic or some shit.
Speaker 3: But no, I like different other guys, like at the
Speaker 3: end of a date one night, he the guy was like,
Speaker 3: do you wanna maybe do you want to do this again?
Speaker 3: And I'd say, honestly, I don't think we're very compatible,
Speaker 3: and you interrupted me a lot throughout the evening and
Speaker 3: that really turned me off. And he was like oh,
Speaker 3: and he was like taking aback at hard to hear
Speaker 3: criticism like that, especially because most people aren't so openly
Speaker 3: doling it out.
Speaker 2: But I'm like.
Speaker 3: Obsessed with like this transparency is all, you know. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to be constructive. I'm never cruel about it.
Speaker 2: But sure object how many people? Yeah you was interrupted?
Speaker 2: You did that? That did happen? Well, what do you
Speaker 2: mean I was interrupting? Like right, let me cut you
Speaker 2: off right there? How how are you even how are
Speaker 2: you even defining like interrupted? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to teach men how to be
Speaker 3: better one day at a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they appreciate that. And your Halloween costume
Speaker 1: is no way inspired by their responses to that honest
Speaker 1: and constructive feedback.
Speaker 2: What do you mean there's no kissing chemistry. I just
Speaker 2: like that. It's like a New York cop. I've been
Speaker 2: told I'm the best kisser in town. H give me
Speaker 2: another goal, give me another go. See. It's that it's
Speaker 2: that you you open everything.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. Shall we come
Speaker 1: back and talk about some news. We'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back calen. Before before we get into the news,
Speaker 1: I was asking you because I've been talking on the
Speaker 1: show about these like Instagram activations, these like little sort
Speaker 1: of mini museum pop up museums that happen all over
Speaker 1: the place. And one of the ones closest to my
Speaker 1: house that I have not yet taken my kids where
Speaker 1: my wife too, is the Titanic exhibit. Are you are
Speaker 1: familiar with this?
Speaker 3: I am so familiar. You would ask me if I
Speaker 3: had been to any of them, and I said, try,
Speaker 3: I have been to all of them. There's one in Vegas,
Speaker 3: which I've been to. There's a traveling one that came
Speaker 3: to la and I guess it's still here. I think
Speaker 3: it went last year because.
Speaker 2: It's been over for like years. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what how is this still? These things
Speaker 1: usually come and go pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: But right because it's gonna there's gonna be diminishing returns
Speaker 3: probably have to Yeah, but yeah, you were asking me
Speaker 3: if it was any good, and it's mostly like things
Speaker 3: that might have been on the Titanic. Here's a plate
Speaker 3: that was on a different ship that was made by
Speaker 3: the same company as Titanic.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, here's a pair of pants.
Speaker 1: Then people were definitely wearing pants on the tax Yeah, Cole,
Speaker 1: you ever heard about this stuff?
Speaker 2: This is a power that they would have had in steerage.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So they're not that impressive, but I still enjoy going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going nice. Yeah, So take your kids and family
Speaker 2: to go look at old places and some pants.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta check it out.
Speaker 2: Miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Caitlyn, we've got to get caught up on these
Speaker 1: dang Trump trials.
Speaker 2: Okay. I mean we talked about this at the end
Speaker 2: of last week, right when Sydney the Kraken Lady Powell
Speaker 2: yehipped and we're like oh, and then we're like, damn,
Speaker 2: she got like seven thousand dollars in fines and six
Speaker 2: months probation, Like, must be nice to whatever the fuck's
Speaker 2: going on. Now we have Jenna Ellis similar thing about
Speaker 2: six months or five years of probate or sorry, five
Speaker 2: years probation, five thousand dollars in restitution and she will,
Speaker 2: you know, not have to answer for her part in
Speaker 2: this recode case. And so at the time I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck, Like, are they really gonna come with it?
Speaker 2: Because that's the only way you're going to be involved
Speaker 2: in like a like a Rico case that was meant
Speaker 2: to overturn a fucking election and only get six years proby.
Speaker 2: But we'll see everyone seems to think that now it's
Speaker 2: getting more intense, maybe because there's three people that worked
Speaker 2: on this effort who are basically saying, hey, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: willing to just sing, just please don't allow us to
Speaker 2: see the inside of a jail.
Speaker 1: And this is the lawyer who is like all over
Speaker 1: cable news during the election, basically being very confident.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Bill, she was. She loved getting
Speaker 2: in front of the camera and screaming lies to everybody.
Speaker 2: But she says now to the judge, She's like, if
Speaker 2: I knew then what I knew now, I would have
Speaker 2: declined to represent Donald Trump in these post election challenges.
Speaker 2: I just want to play her doing a really I
Speaker 2: just love when people deploy the tears to try and
Speaker 2: get out of, you know, trouble. So she did give
Speaker 2: a tearful statement to the judge, and I just love
Speaker 2: the way she started off her statement. Just we'll listen now.
Speaker 6: As an attorney who is also a Christian mm hm,
Speaker 6: take responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously, and I endeavored
Speaker 6: to be a person of sound, moral and ethical character
Speaker 6: in all of my dealings.
Speaker 2: But not a good actor. Not a good actor though
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's crying.
Speaker 1: All she's doing is speaking in a high, shaky voice
Speaker 1: while touching her eye every.
Speaker 2: Once in a while. They're weaponized white women tears. I've
Speaker 2: seen this one hundred times, and they are an effective
Speaker 2: tool in duck and avoiding accountability. So I do not
Speaker 2: blame jenn Ellis for just as a lawyer and a
Speaker 2: Christians Christian, Yeah, I'm just gonna touch the corners of
Speaker 2: my eyes. But yeah, this also spells more trouble for
Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani. Blah blah blah. I'll believe it when I
Speaker 2: see Trump in an orange jump suit. But speaking of Trump, now,
Speaker 2: this is three lawyers from the coup squad now copying
Speaker 2: plea deals and many were curious to get a comment
Speaker 2: from Donald Trump on whether, like or not he's worried
Speaker 2: about any of this. He was asked in New Hampshire
Speaker 2: two days ago whether or not he was, you know,
Speaker 2: like him constantly insisting that Sidney, who was part of
Speaker 2: the Trump legal team. Uh he swears, like she wasn't
Speaker 2: representing me. They're like, aren't you worried that like that
Speaker 2: may eliminate your attorney client privilege? And his answer completely
Speaker 2: changed the game. Listen to this, yeah, listen to this.
Speaker 7: No, not at all. I'm we did nothing wrong.
Speaker 6: We did nothing.
Speaker 7: This is all Biden. Indictments and impeachments, and this is
Speaker 7: all about Biden. You can't do anything right. The only
Speaker 7: thing they know how to do is cheat on elections
Speaker 7: and election frauds. You this is all by yourself, all
Speaker 7: of these indictments. Did you say I was never indicted?
Speaker 2: Huh wait what I'm sorry you were what? I want
Speaker 2: one more time for the people in the back indictments?
Speaker 7: Did you say I was never indicted? Practically never heard
Speaker 7: the word.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a word and registered because cognitive decline.
Speaker 1: I was never wait, I was never that from Is
Speaker 1: that from Q? Is that like Q shit where he's
Speaker 1: like been reading Q and on theories that like he
Speaker 1: was never indicted and like all this is a scam
Speaker 1: because like that doesn't even make sense, like given the
Speaker 1: laws of like the physical universe, he has to know
Speaker 1: he was indicted.
Speaker 2: Changed the game Jack.
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't know he was indicted because he's never
Speaker 3: heard this word before.
Speaker 1: It register, say, doesn't even register. Oh sorry, So that
Speaker 1: means there's something wrong with your brain and we need
Speaker 1: to get.
Speaker 2: You to a hustle. Yeah, you fucking hear that? Byron,
Speaker 2: I was never indicted. Okay, practically never heard the word
Speaker 2: except for the numerous times I've heard it. And speaking
Speaker 2: of Joe Byron, this is another thing he said while
Speaker 2: he was saying, I am sure that he would beat
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's ass down in a fight. And I just
Speaker 2: see this is another stage he's at where he's throwing
Speaker 2: air jabs talking here. This is the man himself.
Speaker 7: Remember but when Biden hardwat to take him to the
Speaker 7: back of the barn, I dream of that.
Speaker 2: You know what I do with him?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I do? Oh what? Oh he's a hit him? That
Speaker 2: fake those that's fake.
Speaker 7: Those they have plastic lying all over the floor.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What he doesn't know how plastic surgery were.
Speaker 2: Does he have a did he have a rhinos? That's wow?
Speaker 2: Did you like that boxing form? I think he must
Speaker 2: be a south ball because he had that right hand
Speaker 2: out front in real tight jab like like one of
Speaker 2: those rock 'im soccer robots.
Speaker 3: Good form, good good thoughts all around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they'll be plastic everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't know what plastic surgery is.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is that like an established.
Speaker 3: Like I've never heard that thing in my life that, yeah,
Speaker 3: find a nose job.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, like, I guess he's got like veneers
Speaker 2: and like weird vinyl hair, but like that.
Speaker 1: He definitely he's had a lot of lits of stuff
Speaker 1: called where they like, yeah, the stuff botox. He's been
Speaker 1: batoxed within an inch of the life. His face looks
Speaker 1: like like it's like being I don't know, his eyes
Speaker 1: are like being squeezed or something.
Speaker 8: And I just love the plastic everywhere, like fighting a
Speaker 8: fucking like yeah yeah, based on his.
Speaker 1: Yea fall off and be made of plastic and kick
Speaker 1: his ass.
Speaker 2: And and then he also had this one of the
Speaker 2: other amazing moment where he kind of like had one
Speaker 2: of those like stoner realizations you have in high school,
Speaker 2: like after you like you take your first big bong
Speaker 2: rip and you start like like seeing the matrix of
Speaker 2: the world. Here's here's him talking about a cool new
Speaker 2: slogan that he just came up with. This is in
Speaker 2: our business? Is why you're doing that?
Speaker 7: He said, mccron, nice guy. You know, look he's for friends.
Speaker 2: I'm for I'm for us, I'm for us. You know
Speaker 2: how you spell us?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: You spell us us?
Speaker 2: I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of
Speaker 2: that being?
Speaker 7: I just picked that up a couple of days.
Speaker 2: I'm reading and it said us, and.
Speaker 7: I said, you know, do you think about it?
Speaker 6: Us equals us?
Speaker 2: Isn't that now?
Speaker 7: If we say something genius, they'll never said?
Speaker 2: You know. He goes on to like brag about, wait,
Speaker 2: is he trying to do stand up comedy?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: He's always trying to do stand up comedy.
Speaker 2: But that's that was I was like his school project
Speaker 2: that he went that went well that he wanted to
Speaker 2: tell his parents about. You know, I just realized us
Speaker 2: us us. Huh. I'm reading a I'm reading. I'm reading
Speaker 2: and it said you it said us and they said,
Speaker 2: you know you think about it? Oh, sequels.
Speaker 1: They'll never And the thing I just said was so genius.
Speaker 1: They'll never reprint it because it's so genius.
Speaker 2: Because I'm merely spelling a word.
Speaker 3: And he is the first one to make this observation,
Speaker 3: so we do have to give him credit for that.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. That is true. So yeah again,
Speaker 2: still got stressed at all? Yeah, yeah, he doesn't seem stressed.
Speaker 2: No one. Thing I just want to touch on before
Speaker 2: we move on is, I know the speakership thing has
Speaker 2: always been like, I don't care what the fuck's going
Speaker 2: on with this? What does it fucking matter?
Speaker 1: I never I should care. Everybody, let smart people care
Speaker 1: about this. I'm having a hard time caring though. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily care because I'm like, oh no, the progressive
Speaker 1: legislation that's been passed time and again by this Congress
Speaker 1: will cease.
Speaker 2: So from that. From that, from that perspective, I'm like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: like minimally keep the government funded. But the bigger picture
Speaker 2: here is, you know, looking at this jack with a
Speaker 2: little bit of historical precedents here, and I know you
Speaker 2: rolled your eyes so far into the back of your
Speaker 2: head backship brained my eyeballs. I don't care, dude, I
Speaker 2: look at it right now about like how they are
Speaker 2: fighting right and they're like deadlocked, And a lot of
Speaker 2: people have always said, like, oh, the maga takeover is
Speaker 2: the end of the Republican Party, Like it's like as
Speaker 2: we know it. But I think this, like impast they're at,
Speaker 2: is closer to the kinds of like traditional like party
Speaker 2: collapses or intro party fighting that we've seen historically. You know,
Speaker 2: a few people have mentioned, like the Whig Party and
Speaker 2: like in the lead up to the Civil War, how
Speaker 2: it fell apart because of the Kansas Nebraska Act and
Speaker 2: there was like a whole eating Kansas thing and basically
Speaker 2: it split the Whig Party between pro slavery and those
Speaker 2: people who were like free soilers or like anti slavery,
Speaker 2: and that that made the party just poof, it went away.
Speaker 2: Everyone went their other routes, they went into other parties.
Speaker 2: I'm saying this has the potential to have the kind
Speaker 2: of like diminished power for a party and ends up
Speaker 2: helping another, like the the opposition party win unfortunately without
Speaker 2: having to do much because of like the infighting, like
Speaker 2: it happened before with Teddy Roosevelt trying to like do
Speaker 2: a coup within the party, or even like how the
Speaker 2: Vietnam War split Democrats and then a Republican wins the
Speaker 2: next election Nixon. So like you because I'm looking at
Speaker 2: this from the perspective of there's like twenty four ish
Speaker 2: people and the Republicans that are like absolutely, we're not
Speaker 2: gonna let the Jim Jordan wing take over, and Jim
Speaker 2: Jordan and that side has like responded with like physical
Speaker 2: threats of violence to people, and it's that kind of
Speaker 2: like fracturing that I'm like, oh, yeah, this might be
Speaker 2: more closer to like the party literally just like breaking
Speaker 2: apart on some level more than like the speakership, but
Speaker 2: like what this says about like the health of the party.
Speaker 2: So just just an observation that interests me.
Speaker 1: So and then they would break apart into some some
Speaker 1: new party that we've not yet heard of that hasn't
Speaker 1: been invented, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, or like some some Republicans end up being
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, the Democrats are actually a center
Speaker 2: right party, so I'm a Democrat, like or there's some
Speaker 2: kind of other political realignment because again you have there's
Speaker 2: a voting block too that's like MAGA or nothing. But
Speaker 2: then you also have these other Republicans who are like
Speaker 2: nerds who are like what about like like legislating, and
Speaker 2: you know most of the parties like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we don't have a policy agenda. It's just to say
Speaker 2: no to whatever Democrats do and that's it. And so
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, like it's it's like along
Speaker 2: those lines, I can see something potentially spell you know,
Speaker 2: Like again, it's just gonna weaken the party. At best,
Speaker 2: it weak the party. At worst. Maybe you're gonna see
Speaker 2: real fracturing or people just resigning, which is another thing
Speaker 2: that I'm seeing, Like people are just gonna get ousted.
Speaker 2: But this the the Republican Party is definitely they're they're
Speaker 2: they're fucking up bad and it's going through some terrible things.
Speaker 3: Fortunately, obviously I'm not the first one to make this
Speaker 3: observation that US equals US, because that was Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: just like the the it's so wild that there are
Speaker 3: only two major parties in this country, because the disparity
Speaker 3: between like people who are on the far left and
Speaker 3: centrists is enormous, Like the disparity between people who are
Speaker 3: on the far right and centrist is like pretty big.
Speaker 3: Like it just doesn't make any sense that there's like
Speaker 3: this enormous, vast spectrum and only two parties that represent it.
Speaker 3: I still cannot wrap my mind around it, right.
Speaker 2: I see it, Like, you know, the polling right now
Speaker 2: is really bad, like with young voters, like Biden support
Speaker 2: just cratered over the last week because of everything that's
Speaker 2: happening in Palestine. Hey yeah, but like that's like where
Speaker 2: you like, and this is the thing that many progressives
Speaker 2: have talked about. It's like, you know, Democrat whether it's
Speaker 2: Democrats and progressives always saying like they're just gonna court
Speaker 2: you know, people like that are further left than the
Speaker 2: like the center left party or you know, the establishment
Speaker 2: Democrat party just court their votes and then just immediately,
Speaker 2: immediately just do the opposite of what they said once
Speaker 2: they get power that you see, like the potential for
Speaker 2: these things. Now, I don't know what how how that
Speaker 2: happened formally right now, but it's true, like people are
Speaker 2: getting further and further from like their establishment i'd say,
Speaker 2: but like obviously on the right it's more because they're
Speaker 2: like we need an f no state. And then on
Speaker 2: the left it's like, how about people don't go broke
Speaker 2: because they have cancer, right like and that and that
Speaker 2: that's kind of our options. But in the middle with
Speaker 2: the Republicans and Democrats, like we've said before, you have
Speaker 2: two parties that are basically doing gonna advocate for the
Speaker 2: same thing right at the end of the day, So.
Speaker 1: They join up become like center party, and then you
Speaker 1: have like small mega wing and small progressive wing. Is
Speaker 1: like one of the ways that it could go. I guess,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean sure, like without
Speaker 1: looking at what the actual mechanics are, but you definitely
Speaker 1: see that there are these specific blocks of voters, and
Speaker 1: increasingly progressives and leftists are like, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the fuck is going on with the Democrats, because
Speaker 1: like we're not seeing humane policy at every turn.
Speaker 2: We're just seeing a lot of Ah, we're just gonna
Speaker 2: do a little takebacks from things we promised. Yeah, psych, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a series of psychs. Yeah, we'll do that, psych psych.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your vote, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean a lot of like it makes sense
Speaker 1: that you're speaking historically because these are like historical, historically
Speaker 1: unprecedented levels of incompetence and like not being able to
Speaker 1: get somebody elected, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you can't even like dis like you
Speaker 2: can't even have a census choice for speaker. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: didn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like it I think right viewed in the
Speaker 1: context of like day to day cable news, it's like, ah,
Speaker 1: those these jokers in Washington can't get it together once again,
Speaker 1: what else is new? But and all I do is
Speaker 1: watch CNN and m yeah, CN Fox News. That's I'm
Speaker 1: just mainline in that shit. But yeah, from a more
Speaker 1: historical perspective, it's like, oh, they they don't like haven't
Speaker 1: a They're not a functioning political party anymore. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: at a certain point it just falls apart.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think the other the other side
Speaker 2: of that coin, too, is America is not even close
Speaker 2: to being the same as these other you know, these
Speaker 2: other examples. So who knows if this is even uncharted
Speaker 2: territory in the sense of like and it didn't collapse
Speaker 2: and it fully you know, brought together all of the
Speaker 2: fascists together under one party R and that's where we're at.
Speaker 2: But again, yeah, the intraparting fighting, like I mean, like
Speaker 2: just I was just reading about the people who are
Speaker 2: getting death threats. Like in one of the meetings, another
Speaker 2: Republican congress person was defending the fact that people were
Speaker 2: getting death threats for not voting for Jim Jordan. They're like, well,
Speaker 2: they're getting death threats because they didn't vote for Jim Jordan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like they knew what was good for them,
Speaker 1: they would vote for him.
Speaker 2: That was a death threat that you just said. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but maybe that's but it sounds like
Speaker 2: if you vote for Jim Jordan, you wouldn't get death
Speaker 2: threats because I voted for Jim or I didn't get
Speaker 2: a death threat. Okay, so that's interesting. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 1: Did, Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's does feel like more
Speaker 1: and more we're becoming aware that like they are doing
Speaker 1: the bidding of like not the people who are supposed
Speaker 1: to be voting for them. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's more and more the case,
Speaker 1: or if we're just like becoming more and more aware
Speaker 1: of it that they're just kind of these zombie institutions
Speaker 1: doing the bidding of corporations and profits.
Speaker 2: Certainly, like younger voters don't have the same like rose
Speaker 2: tinted glasses of like making a ton of money in
Speaker 2: the eighties, that like colors, the way they look at
Speaker 2: like our government, you know, our government. They're like, man,
Speaker 2: it's all been fucked up the whole time, and so
Speaker 2: it's funny when you see like these octogenarians and powered,
Speaker 2: like what the hell are what's wrong with these young kids?
Speaker 2: Like they're they're smarter, they're more informed than like I
Speaker 2: was when I was fucking eighteen. That's the fucking difference.
Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, And there's like not a single person
Speaker 1: in Congress like they're they're they're so far away from
Speaker 1: having anything in place that like honors that that truth,
Speaker 1: you know, that is like, you know, reflective of the
Speaker 1: fact that all this is bullshit that I yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like we probably are headed for like unprecedented
Speaker 1: things and the breakup of political parties and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I'll give it a snooze minus. So stuff's still all right.
Speaker 2: Bored by the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But uh maybe you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's not funny. Years, it won't even matter because
Speaker 3: we'll all just be like mad maxing our way through
Speaker 3: water war life, the water wars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, water World though, everything about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you go on a vacation to water World
Speaker 1: after you do your mad maxing day to day Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back, and women in Iceland,
Speaker 1: including the Prime minister have gone on strike. They went
Speaker 1: on strike on Tuesday, tens of thousands of women. This
Speaker 1: is part of the and I'm definitely gonna nail the
Speaker 1: pronunciation of this go ahead, Fenoffrey, Sure, why not? Or
Speaker 1: Women's Day off to protest the ongoing gender gap and
Speaker 1: gedder based violence.
Speaker 3: It's pronounced glioc.
Speaker 2: Actually, oh, I got it. This is the fucking eye,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 1: That's what cut to like the people in the Icelandic
Speaker 1: like parliament on this day, and they're.
Speaker 2: Like, how do we fucking beat this? I hear you
Speaker 2: have to shoot it in the eye listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this has been going on for a long time.
Speaker 1: I think that they're saying this is the biggest one
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy five when ninety percent of Iceland's female
Speaker 1: population went on strike, and there have been a number
Speaker 1: since then. I think there's been seven of these, like
Speaker 1: nationwide strikes over over the past fifty years. This this
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the biggest one in fifty years.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like the people are pointing out that Iceland has been
Speaker 1: ranked the best country in the world for women by
Speaker 1: the World Economic Forum fourteen years in a row, and
Speaker 1: you know, the prime ministers like, but we still have
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. And it's just it
Speaker 1: would seem to me to be like worth noting that
Speaker 1: a nation that is engaging in this like massive direct
Speaker 1: action collective protest and has been for fifty years, has
Speaker 1: also been the best country in the world for women
Speaker 1: by the World Economic Forum fourteen years in a row.
Speaker 1: Like that feels like the sort of thing that you
Speaker 1: would remark on and like would be everybody would know
Speaker 1: about if it weren't so counterproductive to profitability.
Speaker 2: You know, paly hold on, Yeah, half the workforce is
Speaker 2: going to take a day off and they want to
Speaker 2: be paid more. Oh no, no, we can't have that.
Speaker 2: We can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it also just goes to show that
Speaker 3: the country where it seems like quality of life for
Speaker 3: women is like better than most places in the world
Speaker 3: and are still not happy and they're still like survivors
Speaker 3: of gender based violence and you know, pay gap issues,
Speaker 3: and so it's which makes me I'm like, oh God,
Speaker 3: can we in the US and so many other countries
Speaker 3: like get together and do the same thing. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: the best country in the world for this is still
Speaker 3: like there's still inequality and disparity. So imagine where we are.
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, you know the US is on that list,
Speaker 2: Like are we do one hundred? Like gotta be two?
Speaker 2: Come on, No, the top three are all Scandinavian countries.
Speaker 2: What Iceland, Norway, Finland, New Zealand obviously not New Zealand
Speaker 2: and Sweden. US all the way down at number forty three. Oh,
Speaker 2: come on, one hundred and forty six, so at least
Speaker 2: the we're the top half top.
Speaker 3: Wow, out of what one hundred countries?
Speaker 2: One hundred and forty six that they yeah, number forty
Speaker 2: where forty three? Where forty three? Yeah, we're just Columbia
Speaker 2: just has the edge on US and Belarus. Wow.
Speaker 3: Embarrassing for wow and US or the US?
Speaker 2: Which is it? Is it both? Wow? I just thought
Speaker 2: about that. That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same same.
Speaker 1: Fucking mind up here, folks.
Speaker 2: Happened? It's wild, It's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this does feel like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: should be there should be a movement to make this
Speaker 1: a international thing because I think it would be helpful
Speaker 1: for people to have this reminder that, you know how
Speaker 1: the importance like the power of women that they can
Speaker 1: bring everything to a halt, and I think like having
Speaker 1: that tool in the arsenal like is probably a big
Speaker 1: reason why they're towards towards the front of progress.
Speaker 3: You know, how do you even organize something like that? Though,
Speaker 3: Like I imagine it's easier to do it in Iceland, right,
Speaker 3: but like I can't even imagine that working in the
Speaker 3: US in terms of like just getting people organized and
Speaker 3: on board and actually doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, Well, I think when you have like
Speaker 2: good social safety nets, it's easy for a person to
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, I'm going to take the
Speaker 2: fucking day off. Right, But is the.
Speaker 1: Problem with good social safety nets, folks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd encourage people to think for themselves and shit,
Speaker 2: rather than to be caught in the endless loop of
Speaker 2: toil in order to Yeah. So yeah, that's the other
Speaker 2: thing that I really think of. Yeah, we're we are
Speaker 2: not where we're basically set up in the most hostile
Speaker 2: way for workers or people who have to work to
Speaker 2: like take up for themselves. Thanks Nick Avin Newsom for
Speaker 2: vetoing that bill that would have gave striking workers unemployment benefits.
Speaker 2: But it's okay, it's all good. Yeah, running for president,
Speaker 2: we get it.
Speaker 1: We get it, there's more more evidence that collective action works,
Speaker 1: you know, not not and not saying that like what
Speaker 1: they're protesting, Like the fact that they're still protesting is
Speaker 1: you know, not serious because they're at the front of
Speaker 1: the you know, but they we I think the fact
Speaker 1: that they are leaders in this people should be taking
Speaker 1: that as a reason to try and organize something similar,
Speaker 1: like closer to home.
Speaker 2: Close to Yeah, because it's not just like work, like
Speaker 2: going into your paid work. It's like if you're doing
Speaker 2: duties within your home, like yeah, tools down, Like this
Speaker 2: is meant to resonate at every fucking way. How yeah,
Speaker 2: how much we depend on, you know, the labor of
Speaker 2: these people.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna flush my toilet when I go
Speaker 3: on striketh No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, strike for fucking thirty years, man, Still it ain't
Speaker 2: change it.
Speaker 1: Literally, you guys are ready for Tailor's conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: Is it a good one?
Speaker 1: No, it's not a good one.
Speaker 2: I'll just I just love to tell you, I honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm it's taking over my brain because then the repetition
Speaker 2: from the media of like microanalyzing every single thing about
Speaker 2: her life, it's like gotten to me now and I'm like,
Speaker 2: her and Travis held hands again leaving Arrowhead Stadium. That
Speaker 2: was a fucking headline on Sunday, right, Yeah, they're dating.
Speaker 2: What the fuck are we? What? This is like a
Speaker 2: high school newspaper. They held they held hands after the
Speaker 2: football game, and they left in his dad's convertible.
Speaker 1: People are just truly I don't know everything she does.
Speaker 1: I did watch one of her reactions to a touchdown
Speaker 1: or a near touchdown, and I was like, man, still
Speaker 1: still have not seen a false move from her. She's
Speaker 1: just always exactly perfect, And it's like did she practice
Speaker 1: that one thousand times, just how to react in that moment?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, the like different ways like yes, or like okay,
Speaker 2: too aggressive? How about one like oh that's fucking gold.
Speaker 2: That was another one that.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just that she has been watched
Speaker 1: like since she was twelve years old, so she like
Speaker 1: doesn't She's just constantly camera aware at all times, and yeah,
Speaker 1: is like the new Yeah, terribly lonely high a higher
Speaker 1: level of human of camera aware celebrity human. But anyways,
Speaker 1: she's also writing spy novels according to fans, so this
Speaker 1: is sure.
Speaker 2: This this one's pretty dumb.
Speaker 1: So back in twenty twenty one, the guy made the
Speaker 1: Kingsman movies, Matthew Vaughan claimed that his new movie was
Speaker 1: based on a yet to be published spy novel Argyle
Speaker 1: by an unknown author named Ellie Conway, and the trailer
Speaker 1: for the movies out. It stars Henry cavill as like
Speaker 1: a Bond type superspy Bright, Dallas Howard as Ellie Conway,
Speaker 1: the author who created him. Did you see the trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's actually it actually looks kind of
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I was like, all right, let's see,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like Romancing the Stone or what
Speaker 3: was that newer movie that came out with Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was Romancing but yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so like Ryan to Meta one right where she the
Speaker 2: rom com writer and then gets lost City the Last
Speaker 2: City City.
Speaker 1: She's not.
Speaker 3: It's not a rom come rider. She's like an adventure
Speaker 3: writer and yes, which is the same premise as Romancing
Speaker 3: the Stone, which is Kathleen Turner from the eighties.
Speaker 1: Yea, yes, but anyways, like the the whole thing, the book,
Speaker 1: He's like, I got my hands on this book. It's
Speaker 1: the best adventure spy novel I've ever read. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make a movie out of it. The novel has never
Speaker 1: come out, and nobody can find Ellie Conway as like
Speaker 1: an actual living human being, and people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just like a spot like away. It's he
Speaker 1: he wrote a screenplay essentially, is what it seems like, right,
Speaker 1: And and then yeah, I started doing like some grilla marketing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it seems like she doesn't exist and
Speaker 1: the book is like some sort of tie in gimmick and.
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1: But now, like online Taylor Swift, conspiracy theorists are speculating
Speaker 1: the book was secretly written by Taylor Swift and that
Speaker 1: Eli Conway is her pen name.
Speaker 3: And what leads them to believe this?
Speaker 1: All right, the evidence is pretty strong. Evidence is kind
Speaker 1: of basically impossible to argue with. Okay, so she's written
Speaker 1: songs under pseudonyms.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's it, all right, We're done here.
Speaker 1: Not under the pseudonym Elie Conway. But that's not just
Speaker 1: under studonyms Conway. His profile picture is a coffee cup,
Speaker 1: which you might notice the coffee cup seen in Midnights
Speaker 1: also a coffee cup. Okay, the spoon is even pointing
Speaker 1: toward the midnight direction of a clock, so it would
Speaker 1: be like twelve o'clock.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Ellie Conway in the trailer played by Bryce Styles Howard
Speaker 1: has a cat backpack similar to Taylor Swift's and owns
Speaker 1: the same breed of cat that Taylor Swift does. Okay,
Speaker 1: also that Matthew Vaughn does.
Speaker 2: But what if Jack stay on task.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, Matthew Vaughn is Taylor. Oh everything about that.
Speaker 1: Matthew Vaughn is Swift.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's called christ consciousness. Vaughn is Swift.
Speaker 1: And then like, so up to this point, I was like, guys,
Speaker 1: this seems a little shaky. But then Nail in the
Speaker 1: coffin Taylor Swift has worn argyle sweater.
Speaker 2: Naha, well there it is ce Jack has used a pseudonym,
Speaker 2: has a cat, and has Warren. It's clearly she's writing
Speaker 2: spy novels in between being an already fucking one of
Speaker 2: the busiest human beings I think on the planet right now.
Speaker 1: But yes, okay, did you notice that during some of
Speaker 1: the Chiefs games, like she wasn't on camera and like
Speaker 1: where was she? Probably writing spy novel would be My guess, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this. When you look at what the plot
Speaker 1: of the movie is, it it seems very much in
Speaker 1: line with what the director and writer of the Kingsman
Speaker 1: movies would write, and not necessarily in line with what Taylor.
Speaker 2: Swift would.
Speaker 1: She had to guess the type of movie the Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift would write. Would it involve like people who are
Speaker 1: like sick with weapons and like just do awesome shooting
Speaker 1: stuff to one another.
Speaker 2: Yes, it would be a.
Speaker 1: Lot of gunplay in the Taylor Swift movie, obviously.
Speaker 2: That's I mean. But this to the point that, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we've we've talked about a lot about stan
Speaker 2: culture replacing like religion. This does feel very like like
Speaker 2: uber Christian type ship where you're like, no, that wasn't
Speaker 2: that touchdown? Wasn't that player? That was God? Actually Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean this script. I know that
Speaker 2: you're saying, Matthew Vaughan wrote it. It is actually God,
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. That's right. Every all things are possible through her,
Speaker 2: That's right. That yeah, But again, hey, I love the dedication.
Speaker 2: Love the dedication. She's Ron Howard's daughter, right.
Speaker 1: Bryce Dallas Howard yes, yes, And if you believe my
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, so is Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, he's actually Clint Howard's daughter. That would be amazing.
Speaker 1: The I do wonder if there is some genius marketing
Speaker 1: firm out there that is just like threading this conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: seating this conspiracy theory so that because they're just like,
Speaker 1: if you just say Taylor Swift secretly involved in this project,
Speaker 1: it's going to get it so many headlines, so much.
Speaker 3: Attention, butts in seats.
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah, it's it's a propaganda tactic. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like we should be using it. Well, yeah, you
Speaker 2: create associations, right to get people to be like, what
Speaker 2: this thing is associated? Therefore, now I'm on board with that.
Speaker 2: So therefore, yeah, genius.
Speaker 3: Genie Miles has been Taylor Swift this whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her majesty. You thought that her majesty was Stop Jack,
Speaker 2: Now you're crossing the line. You said you respected on
Speaker 2: my relationship with Taylor. Man. Hey, I'm just saying, don't
Speaker 2: don't put them on that don't regal for.
Speaker 1: Many reasons, you know, I'm just saying, a true queen.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Well, Caitlin Dourantom. What a pleasure having you on the show.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: You can mostly I'm on Instagram these days, and that's
Speaker 3: even barely the case, but you can follow me at
Speaker 3: Caitlin Derante. But the main thing I really want to
Speaker 3: plug is I have some screenwriting workshops and classes coming up.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: Two two day Sorry that's confusing. I teach a screenwriting
Speaker 3: workshop that is over the course of two days, so
Speaker 3: like a Saturday and a Sunday, two hours each, and
Speaker 3: I have two of those coming up, one in mid November,
Speaker 3: one in mid December, and that you'll learn like screenwriting basics,
Speaker 3: and then I have an intro to screenwriting class that'll
Speaker 3: start in the new year, early January. And yeah, so
Speaker 3: I just have a bunch of screenwriting things that I
Speaker 3: will be teaching. And you can go to my website
Speaker 3: Caitlin Durante dot com slash classes for like the registration
Speaker 3: links and more details.
Speaker 1: And I know you legally said you weren't allowed to
Speaker 1: comment on whether Taylor Swift has taken your courses or not,
Speaker 1: but but.
Speaker 2: So I'll just leave it there. I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't you can't comment on whether she did
Speaker 1: that in preparation for writing the screenplay for Argyle.
Speaker 2: But I'll do a little wink and then yeah, then
Speaker 2: you'll kind of know. Did just do a little wink.
Speaker 2: It's like a very little wink.
Speaker 4: But oh my god, affirmed confirmed, confirmed, confirmed, confirm it,
Speaker 4: he goes. Just don't ask her lawyers. Uh, is there
Speaker 4: a work ap media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Yes, I love and would recommend the movie Dix the
Speaker 3: Musical in theaters now. I had a blast. I thought
Speaker 3: it was so funny. You love your super boys, super Boys,
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, those.
Speaker 2: That meet and side and people walked out.
Speaker 3: I am yes, it is the movie. It is the
Speaker 3: type of movie that some people would walk out of,
Speaker 3: but they're incorrect.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and I choked them out. Every person. I
Speaker 2: want to tell you a tough guy, stand behind the door. Yeah,
Speaker 2: where you going? Where you going? Oh? You didn't Oh
Speaker 2: you didn't like the you don't like the themes too
Speaker 2: extreme for you.
Speaker 3: And if you want a little teaser for kind of
Speaker 3: what the type of movie it is, I would recommend
Speaker 3: listening to the Meghan the Stallion song out Alpha the Alpha,
Speaker 3: which happens in the movie, and it's so great.
Speaker 2: Man, it was. It's a wild movie. It's wild music.
Speaker 2: It went from a UCB show to a full on
Speaker 2: feature film with Megan Malalley. Oh really yeah, Nathan Lane,
Speaker 2: Nathan Lane, Magan the Stallion. It's it's wild. It's wild.
Speaker 2: Like when you watch it, you will not believe that
Speaker 2: this is a movie that has been made. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's so against everything that you think like movies. I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's like in a very great subversive way. Yeah, amazing,
Speaker 2: Bowen Yang. Also wo that really plays God plays literal god.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's in the trailer for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Miles, where can people find you? What's work media
Speaker 9: you've been enjoying give? Find me on Twitter, Instagram at
Speaker 9: Miles of Gray. Also find us on our basketball podcast,
Speaker 9: Miles and Checks. The NBA season has finally begun as
Speaker 9: this upon.
Speaker 2: Us don't know what happened in that, We don't know,
Speaker 2: so let's just pretend it was a victory for everybody evolved.
Speaker 2: And also find me on four twenty fiance and also
Speaker 2: The Good Thief, the true crime podcast talking about the
Speaker 2: Greek robin Hood. It's only eight episodes, so please check
Speaker 2: that out. A tweet I like is from at Brook.
Speaker 2: Perrin tweeted, the VET called my seven year old dog
Speaker 2: a senior, which is impossible because she's just a baby.
Speaker 2: Like she and I discuss it often about how she's
Speaker 2: just a tiny little baby, which I fucking think of
Speaker 2: that shit all the time. That it's jarring to think
Speaker 2: of your gray haired dog. Oh my god, basically a senior. No, no, this.
Speaker 1: Is tis a baby, This is tis but a last Yeah,
Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying. Noah Garfinkel tweeted, the only experience
Speaker 1: I've ever had reading a haikup is counting syllables in
Speaker 1: my head and then thinking they're right, it's a haiku,
Speaker 1: and that that is the only way I can encounter
Speaker 1: a haiku. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked
Speaker 1: about in today's episode, as well as a song that
Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song
Speaker 1: that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think some people were gonna like this track.
Speaker 2: It's by an artist called A Soul Child. It's spelled
Speaker 2: s O l d h y l D. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: somebody's been in the lab. She's from New Jersey and
Speaker 2: MC and again I love her like rapping style. It's
Speaker 2: very reminiscent of the golden era of hip hop, especially
Speaker 2: from that New York, New Jersey area. So check this
Speaker 2: track out. It's called n b C by A Soul Child.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we will link off to that in
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