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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three ten, Episode

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Speaker 1: three of Diali's I Guys Say production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: American share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, October twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, ten two five two three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's h could be like lost Numbers, I'm or

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Speaker 2: something four eight fifteen, sixteen twenty three forty three of

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Speaker 2: those lost numbers? Do you actually know that?

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Speaker 3: K Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it was a big lot at the time.

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Speaker 3: Is fifty sixty two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen fifty six? You got it because it was

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Speaker 2: just like a thing that you would that uh, what's

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Speaker 2: his face would always be muttering like over and over

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Speaker 2: and over, and you're like, you just learned the canes. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: It's Greasy Foods Day. I can get down with that.

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Speaker 2: International Artists Day. I think we can get down with that.

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Speaker 2: And also chucking the Chucky a Killer Doll Day. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's getting to jump on it. Jump on Halloween. Chucky

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Speaker 2: is still like, there's still a lot of Chucky.

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Speaker 1: Costumes out trick or treating and.

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Speaker 2: Stuff relevant iconic. I guess I don't know. I was

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Speaker 2: never into Chucky though I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 2: I see the resurgence of Chucky's really with the youth

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Speaker 2: to the youth them, Yeah, the youth them. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I liked his that that movie really.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like really fun in concept, like a

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Speaker 1: killer doll is really cool, But then like the is there.

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Speaker 2: Is there a great Chucky movie? Hate one? A resident

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Speaker 2: film experts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for seeing me. I think that

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Speaker 3: the first one is like really scary and like the

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Speaker 3: exact amount of hokey campiness that I want in a

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Speaker 3: horror movie while also being genuinely pretty scary.

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Speaker 1: Now, I haven't seen it since I was like eight.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's my problem. I watched that shit when I

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Speaker 2: was six in nineteen ninety. I remember, like right when

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Speaker 2: it came out on tape, but I haven't. I was like, nah,

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Speaker 2: but maybe that's because it was too much for my

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Speaker 2: six year old brain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need to revisit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah with an open mind.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I've seen any of the sequels,

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Speaker 3: because I know there's like Bride of Chucky yeah stuff,

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Speaker 3: But I think the first one is pretty solid and

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Speaker 3: you should revisit as an adult.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Sean, my third grade good, very

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Speaker 1: good best buddy whose parents had like the greatest vhs

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Speaker 1: like self taped at home library. Oh really, that's where

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Speaker 1: I saw die Hard way too young. That's where I

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Speaker 1: saw Child's Play way too young.

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Speaker 2: Wait? So wait was die Hard? What was it ripped

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Speaker 2: off of? Like they were just ripping from others?

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Speaker 1: They must have been taping it off of like HBO

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Speaker 1: or something, because it was there. Weren't like commercial break

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Speaker 1: got it there? Like Okay, I wouldn't here if they

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Speaker 1: had their own pirate operation, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that reminds me something that annoys me.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: The title of Chucky is actually Child's Play, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: why wouldn't you just call it Chucky? The same way

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Speaker 3: that why is the movie that should be called Rambo

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Speaker 3: actually called First Blood Blood?

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Speaker 1: I know that that gets a big jerk off hand

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Speaker 1: motion from me.

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Speaker 3: First Blood here, okay, but a movie called Rambo sign

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Rambo Rambo two? I mean that's what we

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Speaker 2: ended up calling me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, colloquially holy word I can't pronounce. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien aka. This is the story of

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Speaker 1: a guy who pissed his pants and blamed water ice.

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Speaker 1: And while he looks so sad, talking cold gas, I

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Speaker 1: absolutely love.

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Speaker 2: Him when he smiles.

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Speaker 1: That's scarsy a locker roomy.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: He said, I've made a Jack O'Brien double old pee,

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Speaker 1: in reference to the time I peed my pants on

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Speaker 1: a child's ride with my children and lamon water. Anyways, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I swear I didn't. It wasn't I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Just admit to that. Anyways.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: mister Miles Grad Miles Gray.

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Speaker 5: A ka A wake up. Now, Where can we put

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Speaker 5: the arts because art up? Where to advertise a local startup?

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Speaker 5: Where the post this recipe from Grandma pictures from a

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Speaker 2: Not on the front.

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Speaker 5: Now, where can we put the new kids art up?

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Speaker 5: Not on the fridge? Where to advertise a local startup?

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Speaker 5: Not on the on the fridge from Grandma? Not on

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Speaker 5: the bridge.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you'd trust in my personal style guide.

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Speaker 2: A cry when fridges are not magnetized, shout out to

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Speaker 2: raise act for that child. Yeah, just giving it again,

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Speaker 2: because you know what, keep the fucking refrigerators, magnetized wake

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Speaker 2: up people. Indeed, don't make the decision for people if

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Speaker 2: they want to use it as a repository for construction

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Speaker 2: paper and news clippings. Let that happen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seats by very talented, brighter stand up

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Speaker 1: median podcast. So it's the Bechdale Cast, which takes down

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Speaker 1: the patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens

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Speaker 1: to have a master's degree in film.

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Speaker 2: No big deal.

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Speaker 1: It happens to be one of one of our favorite

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Speaker 1: guests on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: No big deal.

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Speaker 1: It happens to have the most anagrammable name in the

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Speaker 1: English language.

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Speaker 2: It's Caitlin Doronta.

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Speaker 3: Dracula. I mean, it's just like the season, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, miraculous season. What are you going as for.

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Speaker 3: Hallowey Oh let me tell you, I honestly should, but

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Speaker 3: that'll be that'll have to be next year's costume because

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Speaker 3: I don't think I could pull it off in time.

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Speaker 3: But this year's costume all time low for laziness. I'm

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Speaker 3: making a shirt, which by that I just mean like

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Speaker 3: I'm going to find an old white T shirt and

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Speaker 3: then just write male ego on it, and then I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna take a bunch of like those like fragile stickers

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Speaker 3: that you would put on like a bow, like glasses

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Speaker 3: or like breakable things, fragile mil ego tea here.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I mean it's good though, it's good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I can't and I'm inevitably like I'm already gonna apologize

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Speaker 1: Let me just preemptively.

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Speaker 2: That's cool because that's not me. That's why I'm funny.

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Speaker 2: I think that is funny too. Any man's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Right, any man who's like upset by that, it's like

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fragile. Yeah, it's like one of those flights,

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Speaker 2: like those like outdoor like insect lamps that just brings

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Speaker 2: them in and just get sad, like come to the light. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: accept the truth, feel the warmth.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny, with just dead eyes, no smile, no

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Speaker 2: Oh you go. Does this resonate with you? No? No? Oh?

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does resonate mean? Never mind, sir,

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Speaker 2: Just go on your way.

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Speaker 1: All right, Caitlyn, We're gonna get to know you. A

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Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Yet

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Speaker 1: another Trumps associate tried to shorten associate to a soce

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't It doesn't really work anyways. Jenna Ellis

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Speaker 1: Fourth overall. So we're gonna look into that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: look into what that means, and then we're gonna check

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Speaker 1: them with Donald Trump and see how he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Dude, he's doing five come back to back sound bites

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Speaker 2: that are breaking new ground angers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's an artist. He's always pushing, pushing

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Speaker 1: the envelope further. Miles has has a reason for me

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Speaker 1: to care about the speakership. So I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, historical precedence. I think that that might resonate.

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Speaker 1: That's me when when someone talks about historical precedents, don't care.

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Speaker 2: That was you. I thought you were I thought you

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Speaker 2: were nodding off. I always am a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about women in Iceland going on strike,

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Speaker 1: but perhaps a effective collective action that maybe should not

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Speaker 1: just be an Iceland. We'll talk about a Taylor Swift

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. We'll talk about the switch witch all of

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Speaker 1: this plenty more, But first, Caitlin Durante, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 3: I searched for how to fight a gleoc. I think

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Speaker 3: it's maybe how you've pronounced it parentheses tears of the Kingdom.

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Speaker 3: So I've been ruining my life recently with the newest

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Speaker 3: Zelda game, and there are these three headed dragon type things,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know how to do it, so and

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Speaker 3: I am not above cheating, and so I look everything

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Speaker 3: honestly don't even remember what it said. The different gleocs. Again,

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Speaker 3: sorry if I'm not pronouncing this correctly. There's like they

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Speaker 3: I still don't know what it is because I'm too

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, do you do the thing? Because I

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Speaker 2: you will see an article that will tell you how

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Speaker 2: or the YouTube video where you can be like, hold on,

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Speaker 2: how the fuck? Oh do that? Okay? Yeah, it always

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? No?

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Speaker 3: I think it's just people who probably have made a

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Speaker 3: to like teach people how to do it. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: would be good at this.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's how you make fiel. It's like, well that's

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Speaker 2: your actually, yeah, this loser. Oh you're so good at

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Speaker 2: video games. Oh you just lek and one go great,

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Speaker 2: good time. Just tell me how to do it? Tell

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Speaker 2: me to shut the funk up? What's the secret? Shoot

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Speaker 2: them in the fucking eye.

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Speaker 3: What No, that's the other thing. That's the big troll guy.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry, who's there is?

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Speaker 3: Like I forget what those ones are called, but they're

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Speaker 3: these like big guys who are bounding around and they

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Speaker 3: over and then you like bash them with your sword

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Speaker 2: Yeah is this with anybody?

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Speaker 1: You want to feel worse, just like bad in general,

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Speaker 3: I think that being transparent about why you do not

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Speaker 2: What got out my high school girlfriend who saved me,

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Speaker 2: No, but that is true. Yeah, no, I get that.

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Speaker 2: Has It's been an honor of playing with you this evening.

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Speaker 3: And yes, if you're listening and you have ever kissed

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Speaker 2: Yes, full of transparent Embrace of death. Man, it was kissing.

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Speaker 2: But sure object how many people? Yeah you was interrupted?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they appreciate that. And your Halloween costume

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Speaker 3: But right because it's gonna there's gonna be diminishing returns

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, here's a pair of pants.

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Speaker 2: This is a power that they would have had in steerage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, going nice. Yeah, So take your kids and family

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Speaker 2: get out of, you know, trouble. So she did give

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Speaker 2: a tearful statement to the judge, and I just love

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Speaker 2: the way she started off her statement. Just we'll listen now.

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Speaker 6: As an attorney who is also a Christian mm hm,

444
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Speaker 6: take responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously, and I endeavored

445
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Speaker 6: to be a person of sound, moral and ethical character

446
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 6: in all of my dealings.

447
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Speaker 2: But not a good actor. Not a good actor though

448
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Speaker 2: I don't know if she's crying.

449
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: All she's doing is speaking in a high, shaky voice

450
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: while touching her eye every.

451
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Speaker 2: Once in a while. They're weaponized white women tears. I've

452
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: seen this one hundred times, and they are an effective

453
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: tool in duck and avoiding accountability. So I do not

454
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Speaker 2: blame jenn Ellis for just as a lawyer and a

455
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Speaker 2: Christians Christian, Yeah, I'm just gonna touch the corners of

456
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Speaker 2: my eyes. But yeah, this also spells more trouble for

457
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Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani. Blah blah blah. I'll believe it when I

458
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: see Trump in an orange jump suit. But speaking of Trump, now,

459
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: this is three lawyers from the coup squad now copying

460
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Speaker 2: plea deals and many were curious to get a comment

461
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Speaker 2: from Donald Trump on whether, like or not he's worried

462
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Speaker 2: about any of this. He was asked in New Hampshire

463
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Speaker 2: two days ago whether or not he was, you know,

464
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Speaker 2: like him constantly insisting that Sidney, who was part of

465
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Speaker 2: the Trump legal team. Uh he swears, like she wasn't

466
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Speaker 2: representing me. They're like, aren't you worried that like that

467
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: may eliminate your attorney client privilege? And his answer completely

468
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: changed the game. Listen to this, yeah, listen to this.

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Speaker 7: No, not at all. I'm we did nothing wrong.

470
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Speaker 6: We did nothing.

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Speaker 7: This is all Biden. Indictments and impeachments, and this is

472
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Speaker 7: all about Biden. You can't do anything right. The only

473
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Speaker 7: thing they know how to do is cheat on elections

474
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Speaker 7: and election frauds. You this is all by yourself, all

475
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Speaker 7: of these indictments. Did you say I was never indicted?

476
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Speaker 2: Huh wait what I'm sorry you were what? I want

477
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Speaker 2: one more time for the people in the back indictments?

478
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Speaker 7: Did you say I was never indicted? Practically never heard

479
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Speaker 7: the word.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a word and registered because cognitive decline.

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Speaker 1: I was never wait, I was never that from Is

482
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Speaker 1: that from Q? Is that like Q shit where he's

483
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Speaker 1: like been reading Q and on theories that like he

484
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Speaker 1: was never indicted and like all this is a scam

485
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: because like that doesn't even make sense, like given the

486
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: laws of like the physical universe, he has to know

487
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Speaker 1: he was indicted.

488
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Speaker 2: Changed the game Jack.

489
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Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't know he was indicted because he's never

490
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Speaker 3: heard this word before.

491
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Speaker 1: It register, say, doesn't even register. Oh sorry, So that

492
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Speaker 1: means there's something wrong with your brain and we need

493
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Speaker 1: to get.

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Speaker 2: You to a hustle. Yeah, you fucking hear that? Byron,

495
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Speaker 2: I was never indicted. Okay, practically never heard the word

496
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Speaker 2: except for the numerous times I've heard it. And speaking

497
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Speaker 2: of Joe Byron, this is another thing he said while

498
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Speaker 2: he was saying, I am sure that he would beat

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's ass down in a fight. And I just

500
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Speaker 2: see this is another stage he's at where he's throwing

501
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: air jabs talking here. This is the man himself.

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Speaker 7: Remember but when Biden hardwat to take him to the

503
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 7: back of the barn, I dream of that.

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Speaker 2: You know what I do with him?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: I do? Oh what? Oh he's a hit him? That

507
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: fake those that's fake.

508
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Speaker 7: Those they have plastic lying all over the floor.

509
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Speaker 2: But I don't want to. I'm sorry.

510
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Speaker 1: What he doesn't know how plastic surgery were.

511
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Speaker 2: Does he have a did he have a rhinos? That's wow?

512
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Speaker 2: Did you like that boxing form? I think he must

513
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: be a south ball because he had that right hand

514
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: out front in real tight jab like like one of

515
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: those rock 'im soccer robots.

516
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Speaker 3: Good form, good good thoughts all around.

517
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they'll be plastic everywhere.

518
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't know what plastic surgery is.

519
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is that like an established.

520
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Speaker 3: Like I've never heard that thing in my life that, yeah,

521
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: find a nose job.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, like, I guess he's got like veneers

523
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Speaker 2: and like weird vinyl hair, but like that.

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Speaker 1: He definitely he's had a lot of lits of stuff

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00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: called where they like, yeah, the stuff botox. He's been

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Speaker 1: batoxed within an inch of the life. His face looks

527
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Speaker 1: like like it's like being I don't know, his eyes

528
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: are like being squeezed or something.

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Speaker 8: And I just love the plastic everywhere, like fighting a

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Speaker 8: fucking like yeah yeah, based on his.

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Speaker 1: Yea fall off and be made of plastic and kick

532
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Speaker 1: his ass.

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Speaker 2: And and then he also had this one of the

534
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Speaker 2: other amazing moment where he kind of like had one

535
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Speaker 2: of those like stoner realizations you have in high school,

536
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: like after you like you take your first big bong

537
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: rip and you start like like seeing the matrix of

538
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: the world. Here's here's him talking about a cool new

539
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: slogan that he just came up with. This is in

540
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Speaker 2: our business? Is why you're doing that?

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Speaker 7: He said, mccron, nice guy. You know, look he's for friends.

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Speaker 2: I'm for I'm for us, I'm for us. You know

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Speaker 2: how you spell us?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: You spell us us?

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Speaker 2: I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of

547
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Speaker 2: that being?

548
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Speaker 7: I just picked that up a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading and it said us, and.

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Speaker 7: I said, you know, do you think about it?

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Speaker 6: Us equals us?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that now?

553
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Speaker 7: If we say something genius, they'll never said?

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Speaker 2: You know. He goes on to like brag about, wait,

555
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Speaker 2: is he trying to do stand up comedy?

556
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Speaker 3: I don't.

557
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Speaker 1: He's always trying to do stand up comedy.

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Speaker 2: But that's that was I was like his school project

559
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Speaker 2: that he went that went well that he wanted to

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Speaker 2: tell his parents about. You know, I just realized us

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Speaker 2: us us. Huh. I'm reading a I'm reading. I'm reading

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Speaker 2: and it said you it said us and they said,

563
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Speaker 2: you know you think about it? Oh, sequels.

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Speaker 1: They'll never And the thing I just said was so genius.

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Speaker 1: They'll never reprint it because it's so genius.

566
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Speaker 2: Because I'm merely spelling a word.

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Speaker 3: And he is the first one to make this observation,

568
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Speaker 3: so we do have to give him credit for that.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. That is true. So yeah again,

570
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Speaker 2: still got stressed at all? Yeah, yeah, he doesn't seem stressed.

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Speaker 2: No one. Thing I just want to touch on before

572
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Speaker 2: we move on is, I know the speakership thing has

573
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: always been like, I don't care what the fuck's going

574
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Speaker 2: on with this? What does it fucking matter?

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Speaker 1: I never I should care. Everybody, let smart people care

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Speaker 1: about this. I'm having a hard time caring though. I

577
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily care because I'm like, oh no, the progressive

578
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: legislation that's been passed time and again by this Congress

579
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Speaker 1: will cease.

580
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: So from that. From that, from that perspective, I'm like, yeah, sure,

581
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: like minimally keep the government funded. But the bigger picture

582
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: here is, you know, looking at this jack with a

583
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: little bit of historical precedents here, and I know you

584
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Speaker 2: rolled your eyes so far into the back of your

585
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Speaker 2: head backship brained my eyeballs. I don't care, dude, I

586
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: look at it right now about like how they are

587
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: fighting right and they're like deadlocked, And a lot of

588
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: people have always said, like, oh, the maga takeover is

589
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Speaker 2: the end of the Republican Party, Like it's like as

590
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: we know it. But I think this, like impast they're at,

591
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Speaker 2: is closer to the kinds of like traditional like party

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: collapses or intro party fighting that we've seen historically. You know,

593
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Speaker 2: a few people have mentioned, like the Whig Party and

594
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Speaker 2: like in the lead up to the Civil War, how

595
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Speaker 2: it fell apart because of the Kansas Nebraska Act and

596
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: there was like a whole eating Kansas thing and basically

597
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: it split the Whig Party between pro slavery and those

598
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: people who were like free soilers or like anti slavery,

599
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: and that that made the party just poof, it went away.

600
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Everyone went their other routes, they went into other parties.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying this has the potential to have the kind

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Speaker 2: of like diminished power for a party and ends up

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Speaker 2: helping another, like the the opposition party win unfortunately without

604
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Speaker 2: having to do much because of like the infighting, like

605
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Speaker 2: it happened before with Teddy Roosevelt trying to like do

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Speaker 2: a coup within the party, or even like how the

607
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: Vietnam War split Democrats and then a Republican wins the

608
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Speaker 2: next election Nixon. So like you because I'm looking at

609
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Speaker 2: this from the perspective of there's like twenty four ish

610
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Speaker 2: people and the Republicans that are like absolutely, we're not

611
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Speaker 2: gonna let the Jim Jordan wing take over, and Jim

612
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: Jordan and that side has like responded with like physical

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Speaker 2: threats of violence to people, and it's that kind of

614
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: like fracturing that I'm like, oh, yeah, this might be

615
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: more closer to like the party literally just like breaking

616
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: apart on some level more than like the speakership, but

617
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Speaker 2: like what this says about like the health of the party.

618
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: So just just an observation that interests me.

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Speaker 1: So and then they would break apart into some some

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Speaker 1: new party that we've not yet heard of that hasn't

621
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Speaker 1: been invented, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or yeah, or like some some Republicans end up being

623
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Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, the Democrats are actually a center

624
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: right party, so I'm a Democrat, like or there's some

625
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: kind of other political realignment because again you have there's

626
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: a voting block too that's like MAGA or nothing. But

627
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: then you also have these other Republicans who are like

628
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: nerds who are like what about like like legislating, and

629
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Speaker 2: you know most of the parties like no, no, no,

630
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: we don't have a policy agenda. It's just to say

631
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: no to whatever Democrats do and that's it. And so

632
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, like it's it's like along

633
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: those lines, I can see something potentially spell you know,

634
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Like again, it's just gonna weaken the party. At best,

635
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: it weak the party. At worst. Maybe you're gonna see

636
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: real fracturing or people just resigning, which is another thing

637
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: that I'm seeing, Like people are just gonna get ousted.

638
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: But this the the Republican Party is definitely they're they're

639
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: they're fucking up bad and it's going through some terrible things.

640
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: Fortunately, obviously I'm not the first one to make this

641
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: observation that US equals US, because that was Donald Trump,

642
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 3: just like the the it's so wild that there are

643
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: only two major parties in this country, because the disparity

644
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: between like people who are on the far left and

645
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: centrists is enormous, Like the disparity between people who are

646
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: on the far right and centrist is like pretty big.

647
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: Like it just doesn't make any sense that there's like

648
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: this enormous, vast spectrum and only two parties that represent it.

649
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 3: I still cannot wrap my mind around it, right.

650
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: I see it, Like, you know, the polling right now

651
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: is really bad, like with young voters, like Biden support

652
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: just cratered over the last week because of everything that's

653
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: happening in Palestine. Hey yeah, but like that's like where

654
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: you like, and this is the thing that many progressives

655
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: have talked about. It's like, you know, Democrat whether it's

656
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Democrats and progressives always saying like they're just gonna court

657
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Speaker 2: you know, people like that are further left than the

658
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: like the center left party or you know, the establishment

659
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Democrat party just court their votes and then just immediately,

660
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: immediately just do the opposite of what they said once

661
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: they get power that you see, like the potential for

662
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: these things. Now, I don't know what how how that

663
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: happened formally right now, but it's true, like people are

664
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: getting further and further from like their establishment i'd say,

665
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: but like obviously on the right it's more because they're

666
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: like we need an f no state. And then on

667
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: the left it's like, how about people don't go broke

668
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: because they have cancer, right like and that and that

669
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of our options. But in the middle with

670
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: the Republicans and Democrats, like we've said before, you have

671
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: two parties that are basically doing gonna advocate for the

672
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: same thing right at the end of the day, So.

673
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: They join up become like center party, and then you

674
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: have like small mega wing and small progressive wing. Is

675
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: like one of the ways that it could go. I guess,

676
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean sure, like without

677
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: looking at what the actual mechanics are, but you definitely

678
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: see that there are these specific blocks of voters, and

679
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: increasingly progressives and leftists are like, man, I don't know

680
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: if the fuck is going on with the Democrats, because

681
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: like we're not seeing humane policy at every turn.

682
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: We're just seeing a lot of Ah, we're just gonna

683
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: do a little takebacks from things we promised. Yeah, psych, Yeah,

684
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 2: a series of psychs. Yeah, we'll do that, psych psych.

685
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Thanks for your vote, yeah yeah.

686
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: And I mean a lot of like it makes sense

687
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: that you're speaking historically because these are like historical, historically

688
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: unprecedented levels of incompetence and like not being able to

689
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: get somebody elected, right.

690
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you can't even like dis like you

691
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: can't even have a census choice for speaker. Yeah, it

692
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: didn't work.

693
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like it I think right viewed in the

694
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: context of like day to day cable news, it's like, ah,

695
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: those these jokers in Washington can't get it together once again,

696
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: what else is new? But and all I do is

697
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: watch CNN and m yeah, CN Fox News. That's I'm

698
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: just mainline in that shit. But yeah, from a more

699
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: historical perspective, it's like, oh, they they don't like haven't

700
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: a They're not a functioning political party anymore. Yeah, maybe

701
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: at a certain point it just falls apart.

702
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think the other the other side

703
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: of that coin, too, is America is not even close

704
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: to being the same as these other you know, these

705
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: other examples. So who knows if this is even uncharted

706
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: territory in the sense of like and it didn't collapse

707
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: and it fully you know, brought together all of the

708
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: fascists together under one party R and that's where we're at.

709
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: But again, yeah, the intraparting fighting, like I mean, like

710
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: just I was just reading about the people who are

711
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: getting death threats. Like in one of the meetings, another

712
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Republican congress person was defending the fact that people were

713
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: getting death threats for not voting for Jim Jordan. They're like, well,

714
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: they're getting death threats because they didn't vote for Jim Jordan.

715
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like they knew what was good for them,

716
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: they would vote for him.

717
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: That was a death threat that you just said. Yeah,

718
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, but maybe that's but it sounds like

719
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: if you vote for Jim Jordan, you wouldn't get death

720
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: threats because I voted for Jim or I didn't get

721
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: a death threat. Okay, so that's interesting. But I don't know,

722
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 2: and you.

723
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Did, Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's does feel like more

724
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: and more we're becoming aware that like they are doing

725
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: the bidding of like not the people who are supposed

726
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: to be voting for them. I don't know if that's

727
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's more and more the case,

728
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: or if we're just like becoming more and more aware

729
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: of it that they're just kind of these zombie institutions

730
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: doing the bidding of corporations and profits.

731
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: Certainly, like younger voters don't have the same like rose

732
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: tinted glasses of like making a ton of money in

733
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: the eighties, that like colors, the way they look at

734
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: like our government, you know, our government. They're like, man,

735
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: it's all been fucked up the whole time, and so

736
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: it's funny when you see like these octogenarians and powered,

737
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: like what the hell are what's wrong with these young kids?

738
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: Like they're they're smarter, they're more informed than like I

739
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: was when I was fucking eighteen. That's the fucking difference.

740
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, And there's like not a single person

741
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: in Congress like they're they're they're so far away from

742
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: having anything in place that like honors that that truth,

743
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, that is like, you know, reflective of the

744
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: fact that all this is bullshit that I yeah, I

745
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know, like we probably are headed for like unprecedented

746
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: things and the breakup of political parties and stuff. So

747
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: I'll give it a snooze minus. So stuff's still all right.

748
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: Bored by the whole thing.

749
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: But uh maybe you.

750
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: Know, it's not funny. Years, it won't even matter because

751
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: we'll all just be like mad maxing our way through

752
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: water war life, the water wars.

753
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, water World though, everything about that.

754
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you go on a vacation to water World

755
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: after you do your mad maxing day to day Monday

756
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: through Friday. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll

757
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back, and women in Iceland,

758
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: including the Prime minister have gone on strike. They went

759
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: on strike on Tuesday, tens of thousands of women. This

760
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: is part of the and I'm definitely gonna nail the

761
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: pronunciation of this go ahead, Fenoffrey, Sure, why not? Or

762
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: Women's Day off to protest the ongoing gender gap and

763
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: gedder based violence.

764
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: It's pronounced glioc.

765
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: Actually, oh, I got it. This is the fucking eye,

766
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: that's right.

767
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: That's what cut to like the people in the Icelandic

768
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: like parliament on this day, and they're.

769
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: Like, how do we fucking beat this? I hear you

770
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: have to shoot it in the eye listening to this podcast.

771
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this has been going on for a long time.

772
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that they're saying this is the biggest one

773
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy five when ninety percent of Iceland's female

774
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: population went on strike, and there have been a number

775
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: since then. I think there's been seven of these, like

776
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: nationwide strikes over over the past fifty years. This this

777
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the biggest one in fifty years.

778
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

779
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Like the people are pointing out that Iceland has been

780
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: ranked the best country in the world for women by

781
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: the World Economic Forum fourteen years in a row, and

782
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, the prime ministers like, but we still have

783
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. And it's just it

784
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: would seem to me to be like worth noting that

785
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: a nation that is engaging in this like massive direct

786
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: action collective protest and has been for fifty years, has

787
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: also been the best country in the world for women

788
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: by the World Economic Forum fourteen years in a row.

789
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Like that feels like the sort of thing that you

790
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: would remark on and like would be everybody would know

791
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: about if it weren't so counterproductive to profitability.

792
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: You know, paly hold on, Yeah, half the workforce is

793
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: going to take a day off and they want to

794
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: be paid more. Oh no, no, we can't have that.

795
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: We can't.

796
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it also just goes to show that

797
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: the country where it seems like quality of life for

798
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: women is like better than most places in the world

799
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: and are still not happy and they're still like survivors

800
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: of gender based violence and you know, pay gap issues,

801
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 3: and so it's which makes me I'm like, oh God,

802
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: can we in the US and so many other countries

803
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 3: like get together and do the same thing. Yeah, because

804
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: the best country in the world for this is still

805
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: like there's still inequality and disparity. So imagine where we are.

806
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, you know the US is on that list,

807
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: Like are we do one hundred? Like gotta be two?

808
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: Come on, No, the top three are all Scandinavian countries.

809
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: What Iceland, Norway, Finland, New Zealand obviously not New Zealand

810
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: and Sweden. US all the way down at number forty three. Oh,

811
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: come on, one hundred and forty six, so at least

812
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: the we're the top half top.

813
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: Wow, out of what one hundred countries?

814
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: One hundred and forty six that they yeah, number forty

815
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: where forty three? Where forty three? Yeah, we're just Columbia

816
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: just has the edge on US and Belarus. Wow.

817
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: Embarrassing for wow and US or the US?

818
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Which is it? Is it both? Wow? I just thought

819
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 2: about that. That's great.

820
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, same same.

821
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: Fucking mind up here, folks.

822
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: Happened? It's wild, It's wild.

823
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this does feel like, I don't know, it

824
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: should be there should be a movement to make this

825
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: a international thing because I think it would be helpful

826
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: for people to have this reminder that, you know how

827
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: the importance like the power of women that they can

828
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: bring everything to a halt, and I think like having

829
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: that tool in the arsenal like is probably a big

830
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: reason why they're towards towards the front of progress.

831
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: You know, how do you even organize something like that? Though,

832
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: Like I imagine it's easier to do it in Iceland, right,

833
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: but like I can't even imagine that working in the

834
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: US in terms of like just getting people organized and

835
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: on board and actually doing it.

836
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, Well, I think when you have like

837
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: good social safety nets, it's easy for a person to

838
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, I'm going to take the

839
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: fucking day off. Right, But is the.

840
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: Problem with good social safety nets, folks?

841
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd encourage people to think for themselves and shit,

842
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: rather than to be caught in the endless loop of

843
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: toil in order to Yeah. So yeah, that's the other

844
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: thing that I really think of. Yeah, we're we are

845
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: not where we're basically set up in the most hostile

846
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: way for workers or people who have to work to

847
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: like take up for themselves. Thanks Nick Avin Newsom for

848
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: vetoing that bill that would have gave striking workers unemployment benefits.

849
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: But it's okay, it's all good. Yeah, running for president,

850
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: we get it.

851
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: We get it, there's more more evidence that collective action works,

852
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, not not and not saying that like what

853
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: they're protesting, Like the fact that they're still protesting is

854
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, not serious because they're at the front of

855
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: the you know, but they we I think the fact

856
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: that they are leaders in this people should be taking

857
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: that as a reason to try and organize something similar,

858
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: like closer to home.

859
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: Close to Yeah, because it's not just like work, like

860
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: going into your paid work. It's like if you're doing

861
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: duties within your home, like yeah, tools down, Like this

862
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: is meant to resonate at every fucking way. How yeah,

863
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: how much we depend on, you know, the labor of

864
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: these people.

865
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna flush my toilet when I go

866
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: on striketh No, I'm kidding.

867
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, strike for fucking thirty years, man, Still it ain't

868
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: change it.

869
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: Literally, you guys are ready for Tailor's conspiracy theory.

870
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: Is it a good one?

871
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: No, it's not a good one.

872
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: I'll just I just love to tell you, I honestly,

873
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: I'm it's taking over my brain because then the repetition

874
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: from the media of like microanalyzing every single thing about

875
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Speaker 2: her life, it's like gotten to me now and I'm like,

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00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: her and Travis held hands again leaving Arrowhead Stadium. That

877
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: was a fucking headline on Sunday, right, Yeah, they're dating.

878
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: What the fuck are we? What? This is like a

879
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: high school newspaper. They held they held hands after the

880
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: football game, and they left in his dad's convertible.

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00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: People are just truly I don't know everything she does.

882
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I did watch one of her reactions to a touchdown

883
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: or a near touchdown, and I was like, man, still

884
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: still have not seen a false move from her. She's

885
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: just always exactly perfect, And it's like did she practice

886
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: that one thousand times, just how to react in that moment?

887
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, the like different ways like yes, or like okay,

888
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: too aggressive? How about one like oh that's fucking gold.

889
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: That was another one that.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's just that she has been watched

891
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: like since she was twelve years old, so she like

892
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: doesn't She's just constantly camera aware at all times, and yeah,

893
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: is like the new Yeah, terribly lonely high a higher

894
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: level of human of camera aware celebrity human. But anyways,

895
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: she's also writing spy novels according to fans, so this

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Speaker 1: is sure.

897
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Speaker 2: This this one's pretty dumb.

898
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: So back in twenty twenty one, the guy made the

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Speaker 1: Kingsman movies, Matthew Vaughan claimed that his new movie was

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Speaker 1: based on a yet to be published spy novel Argyle

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Speaker 1: by an unknown author named Ellie Conway, and the trailer

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Speaker 1: for the movies out. It stars Henry cavill as like

903
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Speaker 1: a Bond type superspy Bright, Dallas Howard as Ellie Conway,

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Speaker 1: the author who created him. Did you see the trailer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's actually it actually looks kind of

906
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I was like, all right, let's see,

907
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of like Romancing the Stone or what

909
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: was that newer movie that came out with Sandra Bullock.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that was Romancing but yeah, yes, yeah,

911
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: so like Ryan to Meta one right where she the

912
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: rom com writer and then gets lost City the Last

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Speaker 2: City City.

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Speaker 1: She's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not a rom come rider. She's like an adventure

916
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: writer and yes, which is the same premise as Romancing

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Speaker 3: the Stone, which is Kathleen Turner from the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Yea, yes, but anyways, like the the whole thing, the book,

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00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: He's like, I got my hands on this book. It's

920
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: the best adventure spy novel I've ever read. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: make a movie out of it. The novel has never

922
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Speaker 1: come out, and nobody can find Ellie Conway as like

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Speaker 1: an actual living human being, and people are like, oh,

924
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: this is just like a spot like away. It's he

925
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Speaker 1: he wrote a screenplay essentially, is what it seems like, right,

926
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Speaker 1: And and then yeah, I started doing like some grilla marketing.

927
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it seems like she doesn't exist and

928
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: the book is like some sort of tie in gimmick and.

929
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: But now, like online Taylor Swift, conspiracy theorists are speculating

931
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Speaker 1: the book was secretly written by Taylor Swift and that

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Speaker 1: Eli Conway is her pen name.

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Speaker 3: And what leads them to believe this?

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Speaker 1: All right, the evidence is pretty strong. Evidence is kind

935
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Speaker 1: of basically impossible to argue with. Okay, so she's written

936
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Speaker 1: songs under pseudonyms.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's it, all right, We're done here.

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Speaker 1: Not under the pseudonym Elie Conway. But that's not just

939
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Speaker 1: under studonyms Conway. His profile picture is a coffee cup,

940
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: which you might notice the coffee cup seen in Midnights

941
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: also a coffee cup. Okay, the spoon is even pointing

942
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: toward the midnight direction of a clock, so it would

943
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Speaker 1: be like twelve o'clock.

944
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Speaker 2: Okay.

945
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: Ellie Conway in the trailer played by Bryce Styles Howard

946
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Speaker 1: has a cat backpack similar to Taylor Swift's and owns

947
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Speaker 1: the same breed of cat that Taylor Swift does. Okay,

948
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Speaker 1: also that Matthew Vaughn does.

949
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: But what if Jack stay on task.

950
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, Matthew Vaughn is Taylor. Oh everything about that.

951
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: Matthew Vaughn is Swift.

952
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's called christ consciousness. Vaughn is Swift.

953
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Speaker 1: And then like, so up to this point, I was like, guys,

954
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: this seems a little shaky. But then Nail in the

955
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: coffin Taylor Swift has worn argyle sweater.

956
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: Naha, well there it is ce Jack has used a pseudonym,

957
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: has a cat, and has Warren. It's clearly she's writing

958
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: spy novels in between being an already fucking one of

959
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: the busiest human beings I think on the planet right now.

960
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: But yes, okay, did you notice that during some of

961
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs games, like she wasn't on camera and like

962
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: where was she? Probably writing spy novel would be My guess, Yeah,

963
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: I like this. When you look at what the plot

964
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: of the movie is, it it seems very much in

965
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: line with what the director and writer of the Kingsman

966
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: movies would write, and not necessarily in line with what Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Swift would.

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Speaker 1: She had to guess the type of movie the Taylor

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00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: Swift would write. Would it involve like people who are

970
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: like sick with weapons and like just do awesome shooting

971
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: stuff to one another.

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00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: Yes, it would be a.

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00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: Lot of gunplay in the Taylor Swift movie, obviously.

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Speaker 2: That's I mean. But this to the point that, uh,

975
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, we've we've talked about a lot about stan

976
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: culture replacing like religion. This does feel very like like

977
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: uber Christian type ship where you're like, no, that wasn't

978
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: that touchdown? Wasn't that player? That was God? Actually Jesus. Yeah,

979
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean this script. I know that

980
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: you're saying, Matthew Vaughan wrote it. It is actually God,

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. That's right. Every all things are possible through her,

982
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: That's right. That yeah, But again, hey, I love the dedication.

983
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: Love the dedication. She's Ron Howard's daughter, right.

984
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Bryce Dallas Howard yes, yes, And if you believe my

985
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, so is Taylor Swift.

986
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, he's actually Clint Howard's daughter. That would be amazing.

987
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: The I do wonder if there is some genius marketing

988
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: firm out there that is just like threading this conspiracy theory,

989
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: seating this conspiracy theory so that because they're just like,

990
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: if you just say Taylor Swift secretly involved in this project,

991
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: it's going to get it so many headlines, so much.

992
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 3: Attention, butts in seats.

993
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah, it's it's a propaganda tactic. Yeah, you know,

994
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: it's like we should be using it. Well, yeah, you

995
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: create associations, right to get people to be like, what

996
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: this thing is associated? Therefore, now I'm on board with that.

997
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: So therefore, yeah, genius.

998
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Genie Miles has been Taylor Swift this whole time.

999
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, her majesty. You thought that her majesty was Stop Jack,

1000
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: Now you're crossing the line. You said you respected on

1001
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: my relationship with Taylor. Man. Hey, I'm just saying, don't

1002
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: don't put them on that don't regal for.

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00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: Many reasons, you know, I'm just saying, a true queen.

1004
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1005
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: Well, Caitlin Dourantom. What a pleasure having you on the show.

1006
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

1007
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 3: You can mostly I'm on Instagram these days, and that's

1008
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: even barely the case, but you can follow me at

1009
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: Caitlin Derante. But the main thing I really want to

1010
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: plug is I have some screenwriting workshops and classes coming up.

1011
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: I have.

1012
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: Two two day Sorry that's confusing. I teach a screenwriting

1013
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: workshop that is over the course of two days, so

1014
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: like a Saturday and a Sunday, two hours each, and

1015
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: I have two of those coming up, one in mid November,

1016
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 3: one in mid December, and that you'll learn like screenwriting basics,

1017
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: and then I have an intro to screenwriting class that'll

1018
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: start in the new year, early January. And yeah, so

1019
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: I just have a bunch of screenwriting things that I

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: will be teaching. And you can go to my website

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: Caitlin Durante dot com slash classes for like the registration

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: links and more details.

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00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: And I know you legally said you weren't allowed to

1024
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: comment on whether Taylor Swift has taken your courses or not,

1025
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: but but.

1026
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: So I'll just leave it there. I'll just leave it there.

1027
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't you can't comment on whether she did

1028
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: that in preparation for writing the screenplay for Argyle.

1029
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: But I'll do a little wink and then yeah, then

1030
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: you'll kind of know. Did just do a little wink.

1031
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: It's like a very little wink.

1032
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 4: But oh my god, affirmed confirmed, confirmed, confirmed, confirm it,

1033
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: he goes. Just don't ask her lawyers. Uh, is there

1034
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: a work ap media that you've been enjoying?

1035
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I love and would recommend the movie Dix the

1036
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: Musical in theaters now. I had a blast. I thought

1037
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: it was so funny. You love your super boys, super Boys,

1038
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, those.

1039
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: That meet and side and people walked out.

1040
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: I am yes, it is the movie. It is the

1041
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: type of movie that some people would walk out of,

1042
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: but they're incorrect.

1043
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: And yeah, and I choked them out. Every person. I

1044
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 2: want to tell you a tough guy, stand behind the door. Yeah,

1045
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: where you going? Where you going? Oh? You didn't Oh

1046
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: you didn't like the you don't like the themes too

1047
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: extreme for you.

1048
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: And if you want a little teaser for kind of

1049
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: what the type of movie it is, I would recommend

1050
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: listening to the Meghan the Stallion song out Alpha the Alpha,

1051
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: which happens in the movie, and it's so great.

1052
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: Man, it was. It's a wild movie. It's wild music.

1053
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: It went from a UCB show to a full on

1054
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: feature film with Megan Malalley. Oh really yeah, Nathan Lane,

1055
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: Nathan Lane, Magan the Stallion. It's it's wild. It's wild.

1056
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: Like when you watch it, you will not believe that

1057
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: this is a movie that has been made. It's it's

1058
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: it's so against everything that you think like movies. I

1059
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: don't know, it's like in a very great subversive way. Yeah, amazing,

1060
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: Bowen Yang. Also wo that really plays God plays literal god.

1061
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: Okay, that's in the trailer for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Miles, where can people find you? What's work media

1064
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 9: you've been enjoying give? Find me on Twitter, Instagram at

1065
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 9: Miles of Gray. Also find us on our basketball podcast,

1066
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 9: Miles and Checks. The NBA season has finally begun as

1067
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 9: this upon.

1068
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: Us don't know what happened in that, We don't know,

1069
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: so let's just pretend it was a victory for everybody evolved.

1070
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: And also find me on four twenty fiance and also

1071
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: The Good Thief, the true crime podcast talking about the

1072
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: Greek robin Hood. It's only eight episodes, so please check

1073
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Speaker 2: that out. A tweet I like is from at Brook.

1074
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: Perrin tweeted, the VET called my seven year old dog

1075
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: a senior, which is impossible because she's just a baby.

1076
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: Like she and I discuss it often about how she's

1077
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: just a tiny little baby, which I fucking think of

1078
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: that shit all the time. That it's jarring to think

1079
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: of your gray haired dog. Oh my god, basically a senior. No, no, this.

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Speaker 1: Is tis a baby, This is tis but a last Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying. Noah Garfinkel tweeted, the only experience

1082
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Speaker 1: I've ever had reading a haikup is counting syllables in

1083
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Speaker 1: my head and then thinking they're right, it's a haiku,

1084
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Speaker 1: and that that is the only way I can encounter

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Speaker 1: a haiku. You can find me on Twitter at Jack

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Speaker 1: Underscore with Brian. You can find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 1: about in today's episode, as well as a song that

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Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song

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Speaker 1: that you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think some people were gonna like this track.

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Speaker 2: It's by an artist called A Soul Child. It's spelled

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Speaker 2: s O l d h y l D. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: somebody's been in the lab. She's from New Jersey and

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Speaker 2: MC and again I love her like rapping style. It's

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Speaker 2: very reminiscent of the golden era of hip hop, especially

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Speaker 2: from that New York, New Jersey area. So check this

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Speaker 2: track out. It's called n b C by A Soul Child.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we will link off to that in

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