1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: The Hey California Waiting addition, as the Bengals head to 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: San Francisco, or more accurately Santa Clara to take on 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: the five and two forty nine ers. Coming up, I'll 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: visit with the legendary Jim Nantz, who will be in 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: the booth for CBS on Sunday. Bengals Safety's coach Rob 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Livingston discusses the challenge of trying to defend a Kyle 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Shanahan offense, and this week's Know the Faux segment, we'll 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: get the latest on the Niners from their radio voice, 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Greg Popa. 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It's 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: the greatest thing since kind celebrities. In just a moment, 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: you're going to hear my conversation with one of the 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: most famous sports broadcasters of all time, Jim Natz. Every 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: time I talk to Jim, My admiration for him grows. 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: For a celebrity of his magnitude, he is one of 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: the nicest, most genuine people you could ever meet. I've 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: been around another megastar who is similar, Dick Vitel, who 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: always takes time for fans regardless of the circumstances. Many 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: years ago, when I was a college student at Syracuse 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: and people still had home answering machines, I asked Dick 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: Vitel if he would record my outgoing message. Here was 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: the result. 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: Hi, everybody else is dig Vital of ESPN and EBC. 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: My buddy Dan's not home right now. Right now, he's 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: out at the Dome. He's working with the cubes. He's 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: trying to help my man, Jimmy Beheim. Remember call my 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: PTP buddy, my guy a prime time performer, Big Dan. 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: That was a big hit at the time. But there 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: was one problem. I came home to a ton of 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: messages every day, only to listen to a bunch of 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: people hanging up after hearing Dick Vital. In any case, 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 2: I consider Jim Nance and Dick Vital to be awesome 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: baby with a capital A. Now time for my conversation 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: with the guy who will be behind the mic for 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl this year. It is a Nance and 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: Romo game this Sunday, and it is a thrill for 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: me to visit with one of my broadcasting heroes, the 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: great Jim Nance. Tim The Bengals started zero to two. 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: Now they're three and three. Joe Burrow appears to be 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: close to one hundred percent. Are the Bengals back or 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: do you still have some questions? 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: Now? 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 6: I have no questions. First off, Dan, great to be 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 6: back with. You've got a nice little thing going here 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 6: on a year to year basis. So I'm going to 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 6: call this for what it is now, a tradition unlike 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 6: any other. Okay, So I don't know. It seems like 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 6: I may have said that somewhere, but it really it 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 6: really fits right here right now. They're back. They're back, 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 6: and they're on the same path that they had last year. Bumpy, 61 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 6: start figure it out. Start winning games a big threat 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 6: at the end. That's what I expect. 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, you and Tony have called many of their biggest 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: games over the last couple of years. What do you 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: enjoy about watching and broadcasting a Cincinnati Bengals game with 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: this particular team. 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 6: Well, I, believe it or not, For me, it starts 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 6: behind the scenes. I enjoy dealing, if that's the right word, 69 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 6: with that organization. They got a very sharp, by the way, 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 6: pr team. I don't get to extol this very often, 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 6: but for someone who wants to read everything and seeks information, UH, 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 6: PJ and his crew, they're on top of it. They're 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 6: already like loading me up with material times ten. It's 74 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 6: most in the league. So it starts there, believe it 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: or not, at the ground level, so that I get prepared. 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 6: And then when I meet with the Bengals, Uh, they're 77 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 6: just terrific. UH this week for example, UH, talking to 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 6: the head coach, the decordinator of the offensive coordinator. They're 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 6: all great. They're great guys, and they give us tremendous 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 6: insight into the game. They're all very well spoken and insightful, 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 6: so they're helpful. What I like is they're exciting and 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 6: that's what the fans like. You know, the fans like 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 6: with Cincinnati, anythink can happen on both sides of the ball. 84 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 6: You know, their defense is starting to roll now. Like 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 6: I said, Joe's starting to look healthy and once he 86 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 6: is back at full throttle, which after a bye week, 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 6: maybe this week he will be, and you get back 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 6: to have that combo on both sides. Of course, Boyd 89 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 6: can come in and do what he did in the 90 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 6: last game. This is an exciting team. This is an 91 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 6: exciting team. There's opportunity here for them. The season did 92 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 6: not get away from them, even with that poor start 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 6: the right back of the mix. But this is a 94 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 6: tough assignment, as you know, coming off a bye and 95 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: going into a Hornets nets where he's gonna get a 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 6: very angry forty nine er team waiting for them after 97 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 6: they've just lost two away from home. It's going to 98 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 6: be a good matchup. 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: There's more network crossover than there used to be, but 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: CBS is still the primary home for AFC games, and 101 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: that means an unbelievable gauntlet of quarterbacks this year. It's 102 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: probably unprecedented. Where does Burrow fit in your opinion? 103 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 6: I hate to make this list up Dan, because I 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: always feel like I'm going to leave one of them out. 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: But look, he's been to the AFC Championship Game multiple times, 106 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 6: he's played in the Super Bowl. His record, I mean, 107 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 6: what he's done in just fourth year, it's it's insane. 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 6: You got the guy over in Buffalo, you got the 109 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: guy in Kansas City, you got the guy down in Miami, 110 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 6: you got the guy in Baltimore, you got the guy 111 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 6: at the Chargers. By the way, you got the guy 112 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 6: at Houston. That's going to be a force. Stroud's going 113 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 6: to be a force. 114 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: Man. It is. 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 6: It is just his player after player. I've never seen 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 6: one conference so rich with quarterbacks. And you look at 117 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 6: it and they're all franchised guys. You start to think 118 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 6: the next crop coming out. Sure, there are still teams 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 6: that are looking for quarterbacks, but there's like a lot 120 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 6: of teams on the AFC side, they're locked in. They've 121 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 6: got their guy for the next decade, including a Cincinnati. 122 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: So uh, it's a It gives us You're right, we 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 6: are still the primary flagship network of the AFC, and 124 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 6: it gives us a lot of great matchups to choose. 125 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: Trump. 126 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the other quarterback, Brock Purty. Have we 127 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: seen enough at this point it's about a full season 128 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: if you include the playoffs last year. Have we seen 129 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: enough to consider him to be in the upper echelon. 130 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 6: I don't want to take anything away from what he's accomplished. 131 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 6: He's coming off two losses with injured players around him, 132 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 6: and I had McCaffrey back this last week. He's not 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. No debout Deebo Samuel, but it has 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 6: been Hey, it has been an amazing journey for him 135 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 6: as the last pick in the draft a year ago. 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: It is not putting him down in any capacity, but 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: you got to see multiple years in the postseason. I 138 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 6: think he has that hit factor that goes with not 139 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 6: only the ability to lead a team down the field, 140 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: to make the right decisions in microseconds, to figure out 141 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 6: where to go with the football. I mean's the real 142 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 6: speed is. It's just crazy how you figure out where 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 6: you need to go in the windows you need to hit. 144 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 6: He's done all of that. He's done at a remarkably 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 6: high level and with speed from a rookie to now 146 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 6: just in his second year. It's amazing. But you know 147 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 6: you're talking about elite. You've got guys like number nine Cincinnati. 148 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: You can't compare what Brock has done because just hasn't 149 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 6: enough time yet to what Joe has done or what 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 6: Patrick has done. Or even though Josh Allen hasn't taken 151 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: Buffalo to a super Bowl, they've been in an AFC 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 6: Championship game. They've been in the playoffs multiple years, so 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 6: you got to see more work. But the kid is good. 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 6: The kid is better than good. And there's more than 155 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 6: just the way he makes these decisions. Something about the 156 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 6: way he carries himself way beyond his years. There's an 157 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 6: ease and a comfort, a confidence, not an overconfidence. I 158 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 6: was on a station this week in San Francisco and 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 6: they were making comparisons. They tried to make it combarrasson 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 6: to Rock Perty and my partner Tony Romo, and I said, no, 161 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 6: I don't see it. Maybe you got the long shot 162 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 6: story where Tony was undrafted Perdy was the last pick 163 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: in the draft. There, you can draw a comparison in 164 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 6: terms of style. They don't throw it the same way, 165 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 6: they don't run around in the pocket the same way. 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 6: He reminds me more of a Joe Montana again, talking 167 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: about one of the legends of the game with the 168 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 6: test of time. To look at that record versus a 169 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: body of work here that's got one year behind it. 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: So comparisons are dangerous, especially when you're talking early on. 171 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 6: But the kids got something special happening. I know that, 172 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 6: and players play for him. 173 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: We're visiting with Jim Nantz. 174 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk for a moment about Jamar Chase, who is 175 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: among the NFL leaders in receptions. He's on a pace 176 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty two. The Bengals team record 177 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,239 Speaker 2: is one twelve. When you watch that Burrow to Chase combination, 178 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: what stands out It looks unstoppable. 179 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: You know. 180 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 6: The first memory I have of it, of course you'll 181 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 6: you'll know it well your audience will too. Was that 182 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 6: regular season game at Cincinnati against Kansas City. What he 183 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 6: lit up the Chiefs for three touchdowns and I believe 184 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 6: it was two hundred and twenty six yards. That was 185 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 6: awesome to watch. And of course they went on to 186 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 6: meet in the AFC Championship and he did some things 187 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: that you just don't see anywhere. So that was an 188 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 6: incredible day by the way at Cincinnati, and that game 189 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 6: was back and forth, just a while affair. You remember 190 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 6: at the end of the game, the coaches played it 191 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: just right and Joe got knocked out late in that game, 192 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 6: Brendan Allen, who's going to be the third quarterback this 193 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 6: week for the forty nine ers, came in and took 194 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 6: those last few snaps before the game winning field goal. 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 6: But that was an amazing day in the jungle. And 196 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 6: that's the biggest memory I have with Jamar Chase. I 197 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 6: had a front row seat to one of the great 198 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: performances ever seen by a wide receiver in my nearly 199 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: forty years. 200 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: You also had one of the all time great calls 201 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: on one of his big plays in that game, Chase 202 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: there is no Chase as he as he pulled away 203 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: from the posse. 204 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 6: I wasn't sure what I said, So when you were 205 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 6: starting down there that path a moment ago, I was thinking, Oh, 206 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 6: I hope it was good. 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: It's really good. 208 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: I don't know, well, thank you. Yeah. I was running 209 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 6: out of superlatives that day. My reservoir of superlatives had expired. 210 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 6: But he's fun to watch. We've had some good production 211 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: meetings with him too, So I'm looking forward to this game, 212 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 6: believe it or not. And You guys know it all 213 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 6: too well. When you go to the Super Bowl, San 214 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 6: Francisco is always there waiting for you. But it's our year. 215 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 6: We go every three years. It's our year to be 216 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 6: back with the big game February eleventh, and I'm thinking. 217 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: I know, people say, wait a minute, what's he talking about. 218 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 6: We're three and three. You know, forty nine ers are 219 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 6: stumbling now at five and two. It's a early It's 220 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 6: a long season. This could be our matchup, this could 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 6: be our we could be getting a little preview of 222 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 6: what we're going to see in February. I really believe it. 223 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 6: I'm not predicting, and I'm just saying I think there's 224 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 6: a chance and a good chance it could happen. 225 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: I have one final thing for you. It is not 226 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: related to the Cincinnati Bengals. It's related to something that 227 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: made the rounds on social media about a week ago. 228 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: You have a home near Pebble Beach. You are apparently 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: going for a walk. 230 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: Recently, you came upon a group that was playing the 231 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: famed seventh hole, and you took one of the golfer's 232 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: cell phones and did a little play by play, giving 233 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: him a memory for a lifetime. I love random acts 234 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 2: of kindness, which was great. Is that something you get 235 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: a kick out of I do get a. 236 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: Kick out of it. 237 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 6: I didn't ever expect something like that to get posted 238 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 6: or go viral. Last I heard, I think it was 239 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 6: over seven million hits. The truth is, Nan, I've done it, 240 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 6: not hundreds of times, thousands of times. I've lived at 241 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: Pebble Beach full time for eleven years and I still 242 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 6: live there part time. I'm going to be spending these 243 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: days leading up to the game in my house and 244 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 6: I'll be out on Pebble Beach golf links again, no 245 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 6: doubt doing this for any number of groups. Not because 246 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 6: I'm looking for something to do, but I get waved 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 6: over to come stay over to a group, and I 248 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 6: love people. I'm not going to blow anybody off and 249 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 6: speed past them in my golf cart that Ken Ventury 250 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 6: gave to me years ago. I'll pull over and go 251 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: shake hands. If they asked me to call one of 252 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 6: their shots, I will happily oblige. So that that video 253 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 6: that went viral, that's something I've done so much many 254 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: times I can't even begin to count. And that was 255 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 6: not recent, by the way, when I saw it. I 256 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 6: was shot because I had not been back in my 257 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 6: home since this summer, so I'm figuring it happened in 258 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 6: either June, July, or August of this summer. But this 259 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 6: summer alone, I probably did it several hundred times to 260 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 6: I can't say unsuspecting golfers, because they're the ones that 261 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 6: ask for it. I'll walk up and say, hey, guys, 262 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 6: can I come over and call some shots? They asked 263 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: for it, And again I'm happy to try to make 264 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: a memory for people. And I try to get creative too. 265 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 6: I know on that video that went viral I opened 266 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 6: up with tonight on CBS begins with sixty minutes. So 267 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 6: we're back here at the seventh hole. My new favorite 268 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: has become. Sounds terrible, It sounds a little smart of me, 269 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 6: but I take their phone. I normally record it because 270 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 6: I know how I want to. I can shoot the 271 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 6: shot probably better than someone hasn't done it before and 272 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 6: filed the ball. But I also have the microphone right 273 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 6: at the base of the phone, so my voice is 274 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 6: it's gonna come through a little clearer. But now I 275 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 6: start with the phone tilted to the sky and I'll 276 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 6: pick it up at mid sentence, and I'll be in 277 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 6: the middle of an old bits, a faux oh bit. 278 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 6: He was one of the great guys of all time, 279 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 6: and he will be missed. Pause, pause, pause, and I'll 280 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 6: bring the camera down and give that respectful space and pause, 281 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 6: and then I'll say, we're back here at the seventh hole, 282 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 6: and I'll go into my call, and I always include 283 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 6: Dottie Pepper, my colleague, Dottie. Where did that go? Oh, Dottie, 284 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 6: that was going right. I'm just being silly. I had 285 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 6: no idea it was become this viral video. But hey, 286 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: it's all good. It's all fun, and I love being 287 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 6: a bebble beach and I love being a part of 288 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 6: the experience with people. If they ask for it, I'm 289 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 6: not looking looking for it, but I'm happy to try 290 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 6: to make someone else happy. 291 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: And it comes as no surprise that you add production 292 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: value as one of the greatest broadcasters of all time, Jim, 293 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: this has been a treat It is a tradition unlike 294 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: any other. So I look forward to doing it again 295 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: in the future. Appreciate your time and look forward to 296 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: seeing you on Sunday. 297 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: Thank you, my friend. Look forward to the next time too. 298 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 6: All the very best. 299 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: If you haven't seen the video I referred to, just 300 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: search for Jim nance Pebble Beach and it will pop 301 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: right up. As I said at the beginning of this podcast, 302 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: you won't find a nicer, more friendly celebrity. I recorded 303 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: that conversation with Jim before the news broke on Wednesday 304 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: that Niners quarterback Brock Party is in concussion protocol. ESPN's 305 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: Adam Schefter says that Perty is unlikely to play, although 306 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: it is technically possible for him to clear concussion protocol 307 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: in time for Sunday's game. If he can't play, Sam 308 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: Darnold would start in his place. The former Jets and 309 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Panthers quarterback was the third pick in the draft in 310 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and has started fifty five games in the NFL. 311 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: He has sixty one touchdown passes and fifty five interceptions, 312 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: but he's never played for an offensive mastermind like San 313 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan. The Niners are second in the 314 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: NFL in scoring at roughly twenty nine points a game, 315 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: and I discussed the challenge of facing that offense with 316 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: Bengals safety's coach Rob Livingston. Rober would seem to me 317 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: that the forty nine ers offense with the constant motion 318 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: and the heavy play action emphasis would be especially tough 319 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: on your position group, the safeties. 320 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: Is that true? 321 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is. It's a unique offense. Obviously. It starts 322 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 7: with the personnel, the people. You know, a top top 323 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 7: three tight end and he's not number three, so he's 324 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 7: one or two. How you view him, and then the 325 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 7: shifts and the motions and you know, the personnel in 326 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 7: terms of twenty one personnal. We don't see that a 327 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 7: lot here obviously, so it's different. You know, you gotta 328 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 7: have great eyes, gotta have a great plan, you know, 329 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 7: lose come up with a great play. We feel good 330 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 7: about it and just excited to get the week started. 331 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 7: And again there are some moving pieces that you got 332 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 7: to work through and make sure everybody kind of sees 333 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 7: it the same way. And that's why it's good. We 334 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 7: have a long week and the guys are excited. 335 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: About twenty one personnel fullback right. 336 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 7: The fullback. Some places that's gone the way of the 337 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 7: Dodo bird, but in San Francisco and Miami obviously has not. 338 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 7: And they do a great job with it. They can 339 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 7: make it look like you know, any personnel grouping like 340 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 7: three wide out, they can look like two tight ends. 341 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 7: And they're both special players. So forty four and eighty 342 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 7: five obviously are dynamic and everything they do and it 343 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 7: kind of all starts there for. 344 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: Us, excluding your own offensive coaching staff. Do you consider 345 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan to be the best play designer in the NFL? 346 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, he's up there for sure. Again, I think 347 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 7: each week has its own challenges, so I'm a little 348 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 7: bit short sighted that way. But in the off season, 349 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 7: I think for sure, if you went and looked at 350 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 7: what they did and the compliments, you know, this play 351 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 7: looks the same, but it's the opposite. And I think 352 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 7: he does a great job putting his dynamic players position 353 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 7: to impact the game. And that's really what it's about. 354 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 7: I mean, with him, it's it's people, it's not plays, 355 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 7: and they really do a great job. Obviously, the back 356 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: is as unique as anybody in the NFL, and he's dynamic. 357 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 7: So what he's done, you know, with the run game 358 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 7: and then the play actions off of that, you know, 359 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 7: I think if you look at it, embarrassingly, I listen 360 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: to play callers. The thing on the athletic every morning 361 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 7: working out this summer in Montana and just his his mind, 362 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 7: his his weekly preparation, the way he goes and kind 363 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 7: of sees the game. It's it's unique. Obviously, it's in 364 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 7: his blood. So it's all he's ever done, and he 365 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 7: is a phenomenal challenge for sure. 366 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: We're visiting the safety's coach, Rob Livingston. Nick Scott came 367 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: from the Rams. He faced this team nine times over 368 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: the last four years. Now, in some of those games 369 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: he was just playing special teams. But still that's a 370 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: bunch of exposure to the forty nine ers. 371 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: Is that a big deal or not? Really? 372 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 373 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it always helps. You know, he's been 374 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 7: in that environment. It's been a long time since we've 375 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 7: been in San Francisco. So as simple as it is, 376 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 7: you know, a let's talk about the grass, Nick, what's 377 00:19:59,640 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 7: it like? 378 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 8: The is it wed? 379 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 7: Is it the old candlestick where it was kind of 380 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 7: always wet? You know, what's the stadium like, what's the 381 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 7: environment like? You know what should we think that way 382 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 7: in terms of what it's gonna feel like. And then 383 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 7: the offense, for sure, I mean we can try to 384 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 7: replicate how fast it's gonna be in the shifts and 385 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 7: the motions and all that kind of stuff. But he's 386 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 7: lived it for sure, so have those conversations early in 387 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 7: the week, and if he speaks to the group about it, 388 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 7: he's got you know, open dialogue and he's got the 389 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: floor so he'll kind of paint the picture for what 390 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 7: it's gonna be like. And yeah, it's a phenomenal asset 391 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 7: for sure. Again, it's not the the everything, but it helps. 392 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the secondary. I think it's easy to 393 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: forget how young this group is. Of the guys that 394 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: are playing. Where does that youth show up. 395 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 7: Early in the week. You know, it's it's a new 396 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 7: week obviously every week. So you know with those guys 397 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 7: that they do a great job. You know Mondays and Tuesdays. 398 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 7: You know, the leaders of this group, the Mike Hilton's, 399 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 7: the Cheetos, the guys like that really kind of set 400 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 7: the stage. They watch film together on Tuesdays and so 401 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 7: some of the tough questions of at least come up 402 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 7: by the time you come in the building on Wednesday. 403 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 7: But you know, the great thing about young players is 404 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 7: there eager. There's no scars, there's nothing that they can 405 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 7: think back to of you know, Okay, I faced this 406 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 7: guy before. It's their first time matching up or some 407 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 7: so it's it's a phenomenal blessing. And you know, it 408 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 7: really is unique, especially in my time here, to have 409 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: this many young guys, and it gives you a different 410 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 7: teaching environment. I guess, you know, you hate to say 411 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 7: every young guy is different than how it used to be. 412 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 7: You sound like that old guy yelling from your front porch, 413 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 7: but you do find yourself, you know, how do you 414 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 7: reach these guys. You got to learn the learner. That's 415 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: our job as coaches, as teachers. So maybe it's not 416 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 7: as much you know, just playbook stuff. Hey, let's go 417 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 7: walk it out. Let's let's do this like half speed. 418 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 7: Let's let's go in the turf air. Let's see some things. 419 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 7: You know, here's some other teams doing the same technique. 420 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 7: I think the more they can see other people doing 421 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 7: what we're talking about the better. With teams like San Francisco, 422 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 7: sometimes that can be a challenge because we haven't played 423 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 7: them in a while, so you kind of spend your 424 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 7: early part of the week making cut ups, trying to 425 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 7: so they can see it, and then then it's just practice. 426 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 7: You know again, that's why we do it. If we 427 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 7: didn't need it, we would just show up on Sunday 428 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 7: and everybody's life would be a lot easier. So try 429 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 7: to put them in tough spots Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so 430 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 7: the again, the snakes are all on earth and you 431 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 7: can see what you got and go from there. 432 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: And Daxa's first year as a starter, he's got two 433 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: interceptions and two sacks through six games. 434 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: Evaluate his play. 435 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been like most young players has been up 436 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 7: and down. I've told Daxis so I'll say it to anybody. 437 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 7: He could be, you know, as as great as anybody. 438 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 7: He's God gave him a phenomenal athletic ability and he's 439 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 7: he's a unique athlete that way. You know, playing the 440 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 7: position full time for the first time this year, you know, 441 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 7: training camp was was great for him to just get 442 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 7: his feet set and go play again. Nick Scott said, 443 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 7: you know, you can't really learn to play safety. You 444 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 7: have to play safety. It's like if somebody says, hey, 445 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: I'm gonna teach you how to play basketball in a classroom, Well, no, 446 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 7: you're not. You have to go play basketball. So the 447 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 7: more reps these guys get the you know, the better 448 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 7: they are. It's just how it is and in any profession, 449 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 7: so it's exciting, you know. I think the whole group 450 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 7: has really kind of taken strides and and we're just 451 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 7: working on being consistent. I think with any young player, 452 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 7: with any team that has guys that are playing together 453 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 7: for the first time, consistencies what you're looking for. So 454 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 7: that's our goal here for the next half of the season. 455 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: We're chatting in safeties coach Rob Livingston. Your position group 456 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: also includes a thirty three year old twelve year vet 457 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: who's on the practice squad in Michael Thomas. 458 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: What's it mean to have Mike still be on this team? 459 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 7: Oh, it means the world. 460 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 5: You know. 461 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 7: Mike is as special as anybody I've ever been around. 462 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 7: Mike could could do anything in the world. He could 463 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 7: work at Procter and Gamble. He could be in the government, 464 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 7: he could be in secret Service. He could do anything. 465 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 7: And he's here with us, and he's away from his family, 466 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 7: and he's he's putting himself through you know what a 467 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 7: lot of other thirty three year olds won't do for 468 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 7: the for the good of the team. You know, we 469 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 7: talk all the time about a team mentality and what 470 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 7: does that look like? That looks like Mike Thomas. So 471 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 7: he's a special, special guy. I think the world of him. 472 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 7: I do anything in the world for him. You know, 473 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 7: He's made me a better person, a better coach, and 474 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 7: just really grateful to have him. 475 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: It's your fifth year working with lou Ana Roumo. 476 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: He's been called the mad Scientist, He's been called Loudini 477 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: for his ability to confuse opposing quarterbacks. After working side 478 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: by side with him for that period of time, what 479 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: do you admire and respect? 480 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 7: What's a blessing to be with him? Number one? You 481 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 7: know each week is different. You know he sees the 482 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 7: game from a back end perspective, which helps, and there's 483 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 7: always a why to what we're doing. So you know, 484 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 7: he's got the ability to kind of tear up the 485 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 7: old game plan and do something completely different. And his 486 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 7: feel on game day, I think is incredibly unique and dynamic. 487 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 7: I think that's probably his his secret sauce. You know, 488 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 7: that's what separates him is he can kind of see 489 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: what's hurting us and go away from it if it 490 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 7: is hurting us, and get to something that can help us. 491 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: And and just his ability to trust in the guys. 492 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 7: You know, there's been plenty of times where you know, hey, 493 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 7: what are you thinking here? What are you thinking there? 494 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 7: As a position coach, as a player, he gives you, 495 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 7: you know, carte blanche as long as you're gonna do 496 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 7: it the right way. And again, it's a phenomenal blessing 497 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 7: to work for him and work for Zach and this organization. 498 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 7: And I'll take a lot from Lou you know, whether 499 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 7: it's how we game plan, to how you call the game, 500 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 7: how you set up something maybe in the fourth quarter 501 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 7: by doing something second quarter and just staying ahead of 502 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 7: your calls that way, so each week, you know, after 503 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 7: the game, you kind of make your notes about you know, hey, 504 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 7: this is what we did, and kind of store those 505 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 7: in you know, binder if that day ever comes up. 506 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Really appreciate your time. Best of luck this week. 507 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 7: Oh thanks a lot. 508 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: I appreciate you to The Bengals. 509 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: Booth podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, Proud 510 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: to be the Bengals official HR software provider by Alta 511 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 512 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: business and community to a new level and by kettering 513 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 514 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time 515 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: for this week's Know the Faux segment. When I got 516 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: to Syracuse University in hopes of becoming a sports broadcaster, 517 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: there was a student one year ahead of me who 518 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: sounded like a network broadcaster as a college sophomore. 519 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: His name was Greg Poppa. 520 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: His first job out of college was broadcasting Indiana Pacers games, 521 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: and he eventually moved to San Francisco. 522 00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: We're over the year. 523 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: He's been the announcer at some point for nearly every 524 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: team in the Bay Area, including the forty nine Ers, 525 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: Oakland Raiders, Golden State Warriors, San Francisco Giants, and Oakland A's. 526 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: He's one of the all time greats and he joined 527 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: lap in Me this week on the Bengals Game Plan Show. 528 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: The first topic the status of San Francisco quarterback brock 529 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: perty So. 530 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 9: There were a couple of situations in the game on 531 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 9: Monday night where he may have been concussed. There was 532 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 9: a couple of quarterback sneaks, as we call him, the 533 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 9: Purty plunge, and he got whacked on swimming on top 534 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 9: of a pile by the Vikings middle linebacker Jordan Hicks. 535 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: He also. 536 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 9: One played Daniel Hunter, a great edge rusher, beat our 537 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 9: right tackle Colton mckiddit so quick to the inside that 538 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 9: Brock had a spin out to his left right away 539 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 9: and he didn't get thrown down on that play. But 540 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 9: when you talk to had trauma experts to and it's 541 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 9: sometimes it's just a violent nature of moving your head 542 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 9: fast and sometimes just decellrat it. It doesn't have to 543 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 9: be a whack to the head or even a whiplash 544 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 9: to the ground, so it could be any one of 545 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 9: those plays. 546 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: So I think it's safe to say. 547 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 9: He played a portion of the game with it, but 548 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 9: he didn't feel it until we'd landed on Monday morning 549 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 9: turning to Tuesday night, so we landed like we had 550 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 9: to go to SFO. 551 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 5: San Francisco Airport at two thirty in the morning. 552 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 9: We landed, didn't get back to Santa Clara until pre fifteen, 553 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 9: and so a long night. 554 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 555 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 9: He was out there today when they were doing walkthrough 556 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 9: portions of practice, and then when it was more than 557 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 9: that he had to leave, and then we'll see where 558 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 9: he is tomorrow. But that's why they brought in Sam 559 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 9: Donald the first hour of the legal tampering period back 560 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 9: in March. They signed Sam Donald with a contract and 561 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 9: that was right after Brock had the u Stel search 562 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 9: on March tenth, which was that Friday, and they didn't 563 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 9: know if he was going to be full blown Tommy 564 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 9: John the league of a replacement or just the internal brace. 565 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 5: They did do it the internal. 566 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 9: Brace, but it was very early in his reap, and 567 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 9: Trey Lance was still the Niner then and he he. 568 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Was not clear yet. 569 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 9: So they got Sam in the air and incentivize this contract. 570 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 5: And then your guy Brandon Allen is the. 571 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Third quarterback, that he would be the number two and 572 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: he may get. 573 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 5: Some scout team reps tomorrow. 574 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 6: So I thought we'd be. 575 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: Talking about Joe Burrow. 576 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 9: And his calf going into this talk tonight, and daw 577 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 9: has turned into brock Party's head and whether or not 578 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 9: he's going to be cleared to be able to play 579 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 9: on Sunday. 580 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 8: What about other guys? Deebo Samuel has got that fracture 581 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 8: of the shoulder right the hairline fracture, So he's already 582 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 8: been ruled out, at least he was. They said he 583 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 8: was going to be out for a couple of weeks 584 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 8: when in the Monday Night game Trent Williams with the hand. 585 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 8: Is this guy, in my mind a beast? I mean, 586 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 8: I think he's the best line in football. 587 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: I really do. 588 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 8: I think this guy is incredibly gifted with his size 589 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 8: and his movement and his athletic ability. I mean, he's 590 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 8: a freakazoid. How about him? Is he going to be 591 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 8: able to make the dance. 592 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 9: Trench trying to work through it? He did the best 593 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 9: left tackle of football. I mean, the forty Niners at 594 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 9: Joe Staley here for a number of years, and then 595 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 9: they'm in a trade with Washington to get Trent and 596 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 9: as you're going from one Hall of Famer to another, 597 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 9: and Joe was a terrific player. 598 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 5: But we're talking Anthony Munios. 599 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: You know your guy. 600 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 9: This guy, he's just all that. He's a maller, great 601 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 9: and pass pro. Go back and watching our Dallas game 602 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 9: on Sunday Night Football and what he did to Michael 603 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 9: Parsons in that game. And I don't think Michael was right. 604 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 9: He had a knee injury going into that game from 605 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 9: the week before against New England, but Trenches had just 606 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 9: owned him. He got rolled up on in Cleveland Shelby Harris, 607 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 9: the veteran defensive line. 608 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 5: I've been rolled up on him in a pile. He 609 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 5: was out for exactly two snaps. 610 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 9: Did not play well in that game. It was his 611 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 9: worst game by far. He has a history of ankle injuries. 612 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 9: It's not a high ankle, it's a low but I'll 613 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 9: try to work through it. An Obviously this game, Trey 614 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 9: Hendrickson's terrific and he lines up mainly over the left tackle, 615 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 9: so that would be trend if Trent can't go. Jalen 616 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 9: Moore played the game against Minnesota and did all right 617 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 9: in the game, but we didn't run the ball well 618 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 9: in that game, and that's the essence of the forty 619 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 9: nine er offense is being able to run the football consistently. 620 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 5: And McCaffrey only had three yards of carry. 621 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 9: The whole team was three yards of carry against Minnesota 622 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 9: and the best night was a scramble. 623 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 5: By Brock Perdy. 624 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 9: So it's a major, major drop off if Brock can't play. 625 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 9: Sam Donald's a really good player. If Trent can't play, 626 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 9: Jalen Moore is learning his way in the NFL, and 627 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 9: you guys will take advantage of that, So that is 628 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 9: the major major X factor going into the game. Obviously 629 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 9: brought Pretty's availability, but the grand Schwrett Williams and right 630 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 9: now it's his tour in the week. 631 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 5: We don't know about either guy. 632 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: The voice of the forty nine Ers, Great Pop is 633 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: our guest. I caught the end of the broadcast on 634 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: Monday night. 635 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: I was in my car. 636 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: You described how Kirk Cousins was surgical for the Vikings 637 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: late in that game. He was thirty five for forty 638 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: five overall three hundred and seventy eight yards. Did he 639 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: expose the forty nine ers secondary in any way? 640 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: Is that a group that's not great. 641 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 9: Outside of a Patrick Mahomes performance. And you guys have 642 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 9: seen him a lot in big games. In the last 643 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 9: seven minutes of the Super Bowl, Super Bowl fifty four, 644 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 9: and then he came in last year October twenty third 645 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 9: and just devoured the Niners. They almost put up fifty. 646 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 9: And then at Josh Allen game in the pandemic year, 647 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 9: I can't remember anybody else played quarterback like Kirk Cousins 648 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 9: did against the Niner defense with Nick Moosa on the field. 649 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 9: It's just they didn't sack him. Dan They did, and 650 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 9: they pressured him, but he just he manipulated the whole thing. 651 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 9: And I think a lot of it is their head coach, 652 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 9: Kevin O'Connell and his knowledge of the forty nine or 653 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 9: defense going back to his rings, and then Kirk, you know, 654 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 9: knowing Kyle and it was all checked with me at 655 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 9: the line. 656 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: He looked like Peyton Manning and then he just was 657 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: a mat of what the Niners did. 658 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 9: Whether they pressured seven or dropped into a cover two zone, 659 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 9: whether you played man or zone. He just outside of 660 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 9: the interception he threw early in the game to Tarvarius 661 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 9: Ward when Ward was inside of Jordan Addison, he didn't 662 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 9: make a mistake. He missed one touchdown throw in the 663 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 9: back of the end zone when Addison made a double move, 664 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 9: he threw it two flat. Outside of that, he was surgical, 665 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 9: which leads to this game. You know, Kirk's a really 666 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 9: good player, but your guys better and now that he's 667 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 9: looked like he's moving around better, and then you're coach 668 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 9: Jack Taylor would have the same intel that Kevin O'Connell 669 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 9: would have from the RAM days. So I think it's 670 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 9: the same kind of challenge in this game is and 671 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 9: you got more wide receiver weapons obviously of their trio. 672 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 9: And you know they didn't have justin Jefferson on Monday. 673 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: You got chamorrow. It's gonna be. 674 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 9: The first thing is they got to get more pressure 675 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 9: on the quarterback, and I mean hit them, sack them, 676 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 9: knock them down. 677 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: The Niners did not sack Kirk Cousins at all in 678 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: the game. 679 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 9: They pressured him, but he he manipulated it and stepped 680 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 9: around it and and then he you know, he found 681 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 9: open guys. 682 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: So TJ. 683 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 9: Hockinson was a problem. Jordan Andison was a problem the 684 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 9: whole game. But your trio is better, So I think 685 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 9: this is a real challenge. 686 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't as worried about the Viking game going in 687 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: as I was the Bengal game, because, as I say it, 688 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: we have a short week. 689 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 9: We didn't get back to the wee hours on Tuesday morning, 690 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 9: and you guys are coming off your bye week, and 691 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 9: look at what the Browns were able to do to 692 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 9: the Niners off there by a week be random ball 693 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 9: on the perimeters. So a huge advantage I think for 694 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 9: the Bengals in this game day and is the Niners 695 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 9: playing a Monday night game. 696 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 5: Traveling home late, short week. 697 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: Of practice, and you guys haven't you know, an extra 698 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: week to get ready for the game. 699 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 8: What did you think of Christian McCaffrey. I mean two 700 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 8: touchdowns obviously, I mean he's the scoring machine. But do 701 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 8: you think that that o'bleaque was bothering him? To me, 702 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 8: it looked like it was a little bit of an issue. 703 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 8: It didn't look like the Christian McCaffrey free flow, free flowing, 704 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 8: you know, violent cut kind of guy. Or was I 705 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 8: just seeing things now? 706 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 9: I thought he looked the same I just watched, and 707 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 9: that guy is a tireless worker. He works harder to 708 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 9: get ready to practice than he does even and guys 709 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 9: doing games. He's like Bosa on offense. He's just a Niacle. 710 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: Second generation player. We saw him at Stanford, you know, 711 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: during his college career. Dave and I thought he was 712 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: going to be a great splat wide receiver in the NFL. 713 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 9: The next in Stoke, clear West wid elker Julian Edelman. 714 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 9: He could do all that, but he is a terrific 715 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 9: running back. 716 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: He has great field. He said to learn his own 717 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: scheme because he didn't grow up at it. 718 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 9: At Stanford with David Shaw, they power, but he's learned 719 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 9: it and he kind of does it differently than the 720 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 9: other backs, where it's three four steps at your landmark, 721 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 9: get downhill. 722 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: Christian's like he's surfing and. 723 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 5: He kind of feels it. 724 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 9: The problem he's having right now is fumbling. He fumbled 725 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 9: in the Cowboy game on the goal line. 726 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: He fumbled in this game. Now Harrison Smith punched it 727 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: out at the right moment. But whatever it was, Dave 728 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's his teams getting a feel for 729 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: the Niner running game. He hasn't been as productive. 730 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 9: He wasn't as productive in Cleveland, he wasn't as productive 731 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 9: in Minnesota. 732 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure Anna Rumo is going to look. 733 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 5: In on our run game. 734 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: You take the run game away, that's the start you forgot. 735 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: If I'm going to the game against the Niners, I'm 736 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: starting on Kyle's run game. Now. 737 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 9: It's hard to do how many teams can do it. 738 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 9: But if you do that and make us play, you know, 739 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 9: without the Breton Buter the foundation of the house. 740 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: But I think Christian was fine in the game. 741 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 9: I just think Brock missed some throws in Cleveland with 742 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 9: the wind and the rain just couldn't grip it and 743 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 9: rip it. Brock was really good in this game going 744 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 9: into the fourth quarter. 745 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: And then go back and. 746 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 9: Watch the two picks that he threw at the end 747 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 9: of the game, both to cam bineh the Viking stafety 748 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 9: and you'll wonder, you know, did he not have all 749 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 9: of his mental faculties? 750 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: When did the concussion symptoms start to creep in. 751 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 9: He didn't feel it until he landed at SFO on 752 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 9: Monday night turning the Tuesday morning. 753 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: But maybe he was slightly off a little bit at 754 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: the end of that game. 755 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 8: Let's hit defense real quick. Nick Bosa reigning Defensive Player 756 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 8: of the Year. I mean, he had seventy three quarterback 757 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 8: pressures last year, more than anybody in the NFL. He's 758 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 8: a freak azoid. We know that Fred Warner might be 759 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 8: the best linebacker in football. I mean, but Bosa is 760 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 8: an All Pro. Fred Warner is an all Pro Lufanga 761 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 8: in the back end. It's safety is an all Pro. 762 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 8: Talk about those other guys, so Bosa. Everybody knows about Bosa. 763 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 8: Talk about your linebacker and your safety, you know, like 764 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 8: the shortstop in the center fielder in a good defensive 765 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 8: baseball team, well, I mean that you guys. 766 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 9: Knowing from Ohio State, he's dominant, he's a game record, 767 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 9: but teams have been chipping him and it's bothering him, 768 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 9: frustrated him. 769 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: At times early in his career. I know Cleveland did 770 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: it and they bothered him. 771 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 9: He just sometimes he quits on rushes because he gets 772 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 9: chipped and he gets frustrated. I think he's playing as 773 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 9: well as he ever has, but they're not covering behind him, 774 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 9: so the sacks aren't there. He's got two and a 775 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 9: half on the year. Of course, he held out, he 776 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 9: missed all the training camp. He signed the Wednesday or 777 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 9: Thursday before the first game at Pittsburgh, so he's not 778 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 9: been ass productive. I think a lot of it has 779 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 9: been the coverage that they're just not They've sinking up 780 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 9: the coverage behind the pass rush with the with the 781 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 9: with the pass rush. So a lot of it is 782 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 9: they get there so fast that and they got Jamon 783 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 9: Hargrave now from Philadelphia and Eric Armstead they just traded 784 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 9: for Randy Gregory. 785 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: But the ball's not fast. 786 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 9: Watch our ram game and how quickly Matthew Stafford quick 787 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 9: passed this in the first half and it was lightning 788 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 9: and he's back. 789 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: You guys saw him on Monday Night football. What a 790 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: great thrower of the ball he is. And they didn't 791 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: have Cooper Cup in that game. 792 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 9: They did have Pooka Nakua and to Chadwell and they 793 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 9: they got it out fast before Nick and the guys 794 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 9: could get there. The gold rush and then the back 795 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 9: end they're not covering as well. Tarvarius Ward to a 796 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 9: tough game at mooney Man and you know him from 797 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 9: Kansas City, just didn't cover as well. 798 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: And they're they're picking on the nickel guy, Isaiah Oliver. 799 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 1: So uh Wufum is not making the amount of splash 800 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: plays he did last year when he was All Pro. 801 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 9: And then the other linebacker, Fred's playing great. The other linebacker, 802 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 9: Dray Greenlaw next to Fred, has been in and out 803 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 9: of the lineup because he's got. 804 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: A hamstring injury. 805 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 9: He missed the game in Cleveland, and he missed some 806 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 9: snaps in Minnesota and he didn't cover. They asked him 807 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 9: to man up on Hockinson a lot and that was 808 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 9: not a good matchup for him and man He also 809 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 9: got peed in his zone in a third and two 810 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 9: where they lined up Jordan Addison is the number three 811 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 9: inside receiver and when he runs an over route at 812 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 9: number three, a week side linebacker's got to pick him 813 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 9: up and they went right at him. 814 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: So to me, it's a lot of the same issues. 815 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 9: Because Kevin O'Connell is from Sean McVay plays the Niners 816 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 9: multiple times. Oh the one year they ought you know 817 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 9: when the Rams won the Super Bowl. We saw him 818 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 9: three times that year because we saw him in the 819 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 9: championship game before they beat you guys in the in. 820 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl at SOFI. 821 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,959 Speaker 9: So the defense, Dave was lights out down the first 822 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 9: five games. The last two games has not been as strong. 823 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 9: And I know you look at our We scored seventeen 824 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 9: points the last two games offensively after. 825 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Scoring thirty thirty thirty, thirty five forty two. So the 826 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: offense is down, but the defense, they're not getting off 827 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: the field on third down. They're not playing as well 828 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: as they played the first five games of the year. 829 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: Here's an invitation to join Lapp and Wayne box Miller 830 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: for the Bengals pep Rally show on Friday. 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