1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: I love this guy. He is a Seahawks Ring of Honor. 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: He is in the Ring of Honor. He is also 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: on the thirty fifth anniversary team. 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Matt Hasselback is with us. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: We have lacrosse to talk about, college sports to talk about. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: Matt was very nice when we jumped on the zoom. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Here he sits to God, such a great voice, voice 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: of God. How do you do that? 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Mikey A responded, Well, go ahead, mikeye give the response 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: that you gave Matt Hasselback when he said that, smoking. 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know if I said the voice 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: of God. You definitely didn't didn't know. I ended that, Yes, 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: I said something positive, but it was very close to 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: being like, you know, I don't know, like the bad 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: guy in a movie voice too. You know, you're like 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: you've read fin line there. 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: I really am that you have. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: That's the opposite, So, you know, thank you, Mike. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Yet I am fascinated by the wall of memorabilia behind 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: that hassleback right now. 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: What is is there a prize possession there for you? 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: I'm not really like I got cool stuff. I know, 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: like you know, I got like Johnny Unitas balls and 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: I get I get like things that are sentimental. No, 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: I like some of that stuff, like my kids stuff. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: My girls have national championship trophies up there, Like there's 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: there's some I don't know, like sentimental stuff, but uh no, 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: I don't really I don't. I don't get too much 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: into it. 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: But the national championship trophies, it's it's it's more rewarding 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: watching your kids go through it and do it than 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: you doing it yourself. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I certainly my my Apple Watch heart rate 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: monitor goes nuts in their playing. You know, it's like, oh, 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: you might want to slow down your workout. I'm like, 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm watching my kids play. It's not I'm not even 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: doing anything. But no, like, you know, it's a funny 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: story because they've got you know, my like my oldest 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: she played in four national championships one two lost too 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: as you know, yes, and uh her sophomore year they 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: lost and both girls were on the team, and like 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: they come up to me after the game they're crying 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: and they're like, you know, upset, and I'm like, oh, girls, 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: it's okay, great year, So proud of you. You know, 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: you have a lot to be you know, proud of 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: and they're like, Dad, like, shut up, you have no 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: idea what it's like to be this close to winning 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: it all and not getting it done. Like, yeah, I 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: guess I would have no idea what that would be, 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Like I can't imagine, you know. 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: You know. 53 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you already have won one, Like that's the other problem. 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not winning a second, correct. Yeah. 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: Part of part of parenting you go through these fun 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: moments with your kids, like they forget that you were 57 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: a kid once and and you did things once. But no, 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: it's honestly, this behind me really is just like a 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: COVID experience, Like there was nothing there and then during 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: COVID we get like locked in our house for too 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: long and we just started taking stuff out of boxes 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, yeah, forget about that. 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: Forget about that. Your kids have any idea what you 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: did for a living. 65 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think like maybe a little 66 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: bit now, Like with like you mentioned some of the 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: Seahawks stuff, like we were just at the super Bowl 68 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 3: and the Seahawks just like we're so incredible to their 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: you know, to their Ring of Honor players or their 70 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: Top fifty and you know, like some of it, like 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: maybe now. But I remember I was coaching my son 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: in high school football his junior year, and we were 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: putting in a play and I was coaching him how 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: I wanted wanted it done, and he said something to me, like, Dad, 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: have you ever even scored a rushing touchdown in your life? 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 5: You know? 77 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, bro, Like I wasn't always fifty you 78 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, you know, wasn't always like 79 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: power walking for an exercise. Like yes, seriously, dude, Like, yeah, 80 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: I used to have hairy even, Like believe it or not. 81 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: How many rushing touchdown did you have? 82 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: Just I have no idea. Like funny, the thing is, 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: I have no idea, but like immediately in my brain, 84 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: I'm just like, yeah, I remember out running Brian Dawkins 85 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: to like for twenty two yards and a touchdown at Denver, 86 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: Like that's off the top of my I'm like I 87 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: remember running. Literally it felt like I ran fifty three 88 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: yards for a one yard touchdown against San fran Pete 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Carroll's first year. I mean, I feel like I was 90 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: out of breath but before I even got to the 91 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: end zone and it was a one yard touchdown run. 92 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: But like it was just the disrespect. I mean, he 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: was even talking about high school football, like he wasn't 94 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: even talking about NFL football. You know, it was just 95 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: like it was anyway. That's just I think teenagers and 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: the dynamic, and then also coaching your own kids, like 97 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: that's a real thing and that I get a lot 98 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 3: of questions about that from former football players, especially football 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: players who are now coaching their kids. 100 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I coach my daughter as well, travel across 101 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: for ten years. So what are some of the questions 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: that are asked of you being a dad that's coaching 103 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: his kid. 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 3: A big one is like should I be the quarterback coach? 105 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: You know, these guys that had incredible college and NFL careers, 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: they're like, hey, shit, my kids trying to play quarterback, 107 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Like should I be the quarterback coach? Or should I 108 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: be like the tight ends coach and let somebody else 109 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: coach my kid? Because I know myself, you know, and 110 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys that are a little bit fiery, 111 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: They got a little like Brian Dayball in them, and 112 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: like that can work. I guess if like it doesn't 113 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 3: have to be your dad for the rest of your life. 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: But it's a dangerous thing. It's you know, you don't 115 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: you don't want to like ruin a relationship over some 116 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: like silly game, you know, So you know it's it's 117 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: a real thing, and I think it's a I think 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: it's wise to put in speed bumps like that when 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: you're coaching. 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 121 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: I pulled Rachel aside because the relationships I was concerned 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: about were the ones she had with her friends, and 123 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: so I told her, hey, I'm doing this. 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: They needed a coach. I knew the game. I played 125 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: the game. I wanted to coach them. I didn't want 126 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: to yell at her friends. 127 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: And so what I told Rachel when I first started, 128 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: I pulled her aside and said, Hey, when I get 129 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: frustrated and I get angry, I'm going to take it 130 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: out on you simply because I don't want to yell 131 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: at your friends, and it will do a lot for 132 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: both of us seeing how hard I am on you 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: as opposed to not being nearly as hard on that. 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: Does that make sense to you, Yeah, yeah, that is, 135 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: that's the thing. But I was like, just play along rage, 136 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: you know. 137 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually have found that it's better if, 138 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: like I'm harder on my own kid, and then we 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: just have a conversation before, you know, like I use 140 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: a lot of tricks that Mike Congrin used like with me, 141 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: Like we we kind of butted heads a little bit 142 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: early on. But but I had seen him butt heads 143 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: with Brett Favre, and I'd heard stories about him, you 144 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: know how he was so different as a position coach, 145 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: says he was as a head coach, and so like 146 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: sometimes he would come to me before practice and he 147 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: would say, Hey, listen, I'm I'm not gonna You're not 148 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: gonna when, but I'm gonna jump you so big time 149 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: at practice today. And I think it's important that the 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: team sees that if I can jump you, I can 151 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: jump anybody right by incredibility, Yes, yeah, And like so 152 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: I would do that, like basically driving to school with 153 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: my son, I'd be like, hey, at some point today 154 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: and then it would be like pretty all natural. Yes, 155 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't it wasn't playing. 156 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: It would just start glowing, right, Hey, I got your dad. 157 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: We're good, you know, but I'm like literally fuming, you know, 158 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: like listen, there's a standard here. We're not doing this 159 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: like this is you know, people have graduated from this 160 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: high school for years and years and years, and they 161 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: could go on too, or we're gonna go on to 162 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: you know, like I'm not this is not acceptable, you know, 163 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: like that kind of stuff. 164 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: But yes, intentional, Yeah, I used to tell Rachel like that, Hey, 165 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: what I'm yelling at? 166 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: You? 167 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Just know I'm met at somebody else. It's never you again. 168 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not even that angry because it's sports. Okay, 169 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to ruin relationships. 170 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: I tell you there are good I do think like 171 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: one of the things in sports, though, it's really important 172 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: to like you. There's a standard set and like you 173 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: got to hit the standard and this this isn't like 174 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: my personal opinion, this is just the standard that has 175 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: been set. And these are the non negotiables, Like we're 176 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: gonna hustle, we're gonna touch the line, we're gonna listen. 177 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: We're not gonna be mistake repeaters. If you make mistakes, cool, 178 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: no sweat, it's life, it's sports, whatever, but we're not 179 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: going to repeat the same mistakes. 180 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Right front end messaging. Have you ever considered coaching professionally 181 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: you'd be good at that? 182 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 183 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: I think I think that the problem is though, Like, 184 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: especially for former players, you just think it would be 185 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: so easy. It's not easy. And it's not so much 186 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: the coaching. It's the sacrifice. It's what you give up, 187 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: you know. So like, you know, my middle daughter she's 188 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: still playing, you know, she's on the West Coast. I 189 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: want to see all those games. I've got a son 190 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: who's playing quarterback in college. I want to see all 191 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: those games. So like, if I say yes to coaching, 192 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: then I'm kind of saying no to being their biggest 193 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: fan and their biggest supporter. So there's a lot that 194 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: goes into those things. Yeah. 195 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 5: I looked it up. Eight rushing touchdowns along of a 196 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: twenty three yard rush, and you rushed for ninety four 197 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: first downs in your career. 198 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: Wow with that. 199 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 3: Well, on the back of a football card. I just 200 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: saw this recently. College must do it differently on the 201 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: back of a football card. I had negative two hundred 202 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: and eighty eight yards rushing in college. It's hard to do. 203 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: That's hard. 204 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: I still it's hard to do. 205 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: It's not you got better. 206 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: I got it better. I threw more interceptions than touchdowns 207 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: in college and rushed for negative two hundred and eighty 208 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: eight yards and got Andy Reid and Mike Holmgran to 209 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: draft me in a sixth round. That's hard to do. 210 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: I never played in a bowl game. Yeah, never started 211 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: in a bowl game. 212 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: I should say, how did you get them to draft 213 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: you based on I don't. 214 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I've got some theories, but I don't, you know, 215 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: buy low, sell high, you know, like it's like stocks, Like, man, 216 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: if I make something out of this, dude, they'll think 217 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm a really good coach. You know. That's the only 218 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: thing that kind of makes a little bit of sense. 219 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: So once the kids are done playing college sports and 220 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: they've moved on to the real world, would you consider 221 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: coaching after they're done? 222 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm not too old. I mean it's so funny, 223 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: like I see all these like head coaches and coordinators 224 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: that are getting hired, and I'm like, oh my gosh, 225 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: that kid was like a youth camper at my camp. Like, 226 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: you know, like literally, I've got so many guys in 227 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: the NFL now that are coaching or play they were 228 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: youth campers at my camp. Like it's like head coaches, 229 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: and so I don't Maybe at some point I'll just 230 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: be like that, yeah, passed you by man, but no, 231 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: it's I I do like where the game is going. 232 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: I like the innovation, I like the creativity, and at 233 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 3: the same time, like fundamentals are gone. Some of the 234 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: stuff that really matters, like it's gone, the history of 235 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: the game, it's gone, so like, I don't know, there's 236 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be me. But there's still room 237 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: for these old, gray haired coaches who really understand like 238 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: how we got here and how to not let some 239 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: really really talented people, especially quarterbacks, not maximize their potential. 240 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: Sure, Matt, the opposite end of that, if an NFL 241 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 5: team ran the system that you currently run as an 242 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, how confident would you be to step in 243 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: like Philip Rivers did this season. 244 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that I think there's a great lesson in that. 245 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm actually not surprised that Philip Rivers did 246 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: so well. Like I'm not like in all these young 247 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: quarterbacks who were like so cool with their side arm 248 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: throws and all the other stuff. Like, bro, take a 249 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: lesson from this forty four year old dude that was 250 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: on his couch. He went in to Seattle, the team 251 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: that just won the Super Bowl with one of the 252 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: best defenses of all time. Yes, and he left the 253 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: field with the lead right now, his defense couldn't stop 254 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: them from you know, going down and kicking a game winner. 255 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: But like he did his job. So all you guys 256 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: with all your cool combine stuff and your training, your 257 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: forty yard dash, like, that's not what it's about. It's 258 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: not what it's about. Go watch Philip. If you want 259 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: to do an offseason study and you're a really talented 260 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: first round draft draft pick quarterback in the last seven years, 261 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: go watch what Philip Rivers did. It's we make it. 262 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: It's not about what it's about. Like we don't make 263 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: the main thing the main thing, like it's about highlight 264 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: plays instead of winning football. So no, I yeah, listen, 265 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: like doing it multiple weeks that would be that would 266 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: be a challenge. But I think like there's a lot 267 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: to learn from what Philip Rivers did. 268 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was incredible, Yeah, but you're talking about 269 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: his ability. What he did in that game was he 270 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: managed the game and he gave his team a chance 271 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: to He had him played in years and gave his 272 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: team a chance to win fourth quarter after not playing 273 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: for that long, simply by managing the game and being 274 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: smart with the football. 275 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would also like say, like, you know this 276 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 3: thing about like managing the game, it's like a weird thing. 277 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: It's got like a possession receiver negative connotation to it. 278 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: So like I've never used that word. Like to me, 279 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: it's like you're a game commander, not a game manager, 280 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm in command of the game. Like if you 281 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: listen to him with that sound like natural sound, like 282 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: you hear him at the line of scrimmage, he is 283 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: absolutely the commander of that offense. He's not like the 284 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: you know, assistant manager to the regional manager whatever the 285 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: stupid you know, Dwight. True thing is, Okay, this dude 286 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: is the freaking boss. Like, no, get over there, you 287 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: got him. I got this. I'm hitting the eighteen yard 288 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: en route like I'm hitting the post like I'm not 289 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: like some like, oh, you're just getting by because of me. No, 290 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm in control of this game. I dictate what 291 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: we're doing, not the defensive coordinator. The defensive coordinator is 292 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: nervous playing me. That's how Philip Rivers attacks a game, 293 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: I think. So, you know, it's not necessarily like it 294 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: don't screw it up. 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What's going on there? 335 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it really wasn't like the score wasn't 336 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: out of hand. Ever, you know it was three nothing, 337 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: six nothing, nine to nothing. And you know, I've got 338 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: a lot of respect for New England and what they've 339 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: done in the past and what they can be in 340 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: the future and so, you know, like a thirteen point 341 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: leader less for me as a quarterback, I never felt 342 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: good like this. This team's back in it like just 343 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: any at any point here, you know, and it just 344 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: it just you know, New England just was stifled on offense. 345 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: I think they just went with this like, hey, let's 346 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: not try to do anything outside of what we did 347 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: all year. And I think looking back upon film review, 348 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: they probably will feel like, man, we needed to do 349 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: something different, Like they went into this, you know, their 350 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: whole mantra like going into the playoffs was like mac 351 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: and cheese, Mac and cheese, Like you don't have to 352 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: do anything different, just like it's good how it is, 353 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: you know. And I just I think going into that game, 354 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: the only way they were gonna win that game is 355 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: if they added some like lobster or something like they 356 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: needed like some trick plays they needed, so they need yeah, something, 357 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: man like, it wasn't gonna get it done. The other 358 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: team was just way better than you talent wise and 359 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: experience wise, so like you needed to double move them, 360 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: like you needed to get creative, and it just I 361 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: think that's what they will look back on and say, like, 362 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: dang man, like we we didn't Our protection schemes didn't 363 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: help us out our the blandness of like just do 364 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: what we've always done like that. No, not against Seattle. 365 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 6: I don't think what what did you see differently in 366 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 6: both of those quarterbacks when they went to the playoffs 367 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 6: versus the regular season Because the regular season, Sam Donald 368 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 6: was throwing pick everywhere, goes through the playoffs, doesn't throw 369 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 6: one interception. Drake May was dominating in the regular season 370 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 6: and then kind of was dragged to the to the 371 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 6: Super Bowl by his defense. 372 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I thought Drake May looked hurt to me. 373 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: You know, he sprained his eight C joint. Like I've 374 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: done that on the left shoulder. Yeah, man, I've done 375 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: it on both shoulders. But like, like I played with 376 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: it at the left shoulder. It's brutal, like so to 377 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: play with it in your throwing arm, like you're just 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: not yourself like at all, you know, Like and he 379 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: he didn't make it in like a thing of it. 380 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: He didn't make it an excuse, but like it's a 381 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: big deal. Like I think you you could. 382 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: See you noticed it is because you have experience with it. Yeah, Yeah, it. 383 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: Just it's his brutal you can't sleep at night, never 384 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: mind playing a football game like it's a brutal thing. 385 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: So like that that to me, like, I think he's 386 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: a great player, and I think that, you know, similar 387 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: to Tom Brady's early years, the defense was a further 388 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: aheaded in the offense. I think that's what it was 389 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: with New England. They spend all their money in free 390 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: agency on defense, all their high draft picks on offense. 391 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: You know, they'll they'll they'll be better. Will Campbell, he'll 392 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: be a good player, have a good career. You know, 393 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: their way ahead to schedule the Patriots for Seattle. You know, 394 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: Sam Donald got a lot of heat this year for 395 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: turning the ball over. I think there's only been like 396 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: maybe one or two other people that have won Super 397 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: Bowls where they led the league in interceptions or something 398 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: like that. Maybe it was Eli Manning or Kurt Warn 399 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: or somebody like that. So like, you can do it, 400 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: it's just a little bit harder. But I think, like 401 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: what I would say about Sam Donald in his turnover 402 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: situation is what I'd say about a lot of the 403 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: guys on the Seahawks. They were the same guys making 404 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: some mistakes, but they were getting coach and allowing themselves 405 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 3: to be coached as the year was going on. So 406 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: like now you look at the playoffs, there was one 407 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: team that didn't have a fumble or an interception the 408 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: entire playoffs. That was Seattle and that was Sam Donald. 409 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: And you could say, like, oh, you know, certain games 410 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: he played not to lose, you know, through for less 411 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: than two hundred yards and beats the Niners or whatever, 412 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 3: but because that's the game that had to be played. 413 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: But then you go up against like who I think 414 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: was probably the second best team in football, all the 415 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: La Rams Stafford and cutting it loose. Now you got 416 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: to cut it loose, and now you got to throw 417 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 3: for four fifty and a bunch of touchdowns and all that, 418 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: and Sam Donold did that as well. So I actually 419 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: thought he had a great year. I think he took 420 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: a lot of heat because he had the primetime game 421 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: at LA where he had four interceptions that were not necessary. 422 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: I think he had a bunch and maybe an interception 423 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: to end it against Tampa. But but I thought he 424 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: had a really great year in terms of how to win, 425 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: how to play winning football, and you know, how to 426 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: hoist a Lombardi, Understand who your defense is, Understand who 427 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: who your punter is, your field goal kicker is. You know, 428 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: like there's a saying in quarterback rooms, let our kicker 429 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: and our punter punt. Let our kicker kick and let 430 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: our punter punt, and like that's one of the best 431 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: things that you can do sometimes. And that won him 432 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 3: the Lombardy this year. And yes, and I think he 433 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: earned it. 434 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Have you got to know Sam at all on a 435 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: little bit. 436 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. You know, he's he's he's a 437 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 3: quieter guy, so. 438 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: But a popular guy, like he is well liked in 439 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: that locker room and across the NFL. 440 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: Loved and he was love in the Minnesota Vikings locker 441 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: room as well and at USC And so I think 442 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: ultimately there's there's not like one leadership style. There's some 443 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: guys who are more talkative than others, and then there's 444 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: other guys that are just uh, I don't know. They 445 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: have seemingly more deep and rich relationships, but they're just 446 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: maybe not as loud. 447 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: Yes, listen, there are two Jet fans on the Zoom 448 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: myself and mikey YOI and so we yeah, we're happy. 449 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we're as happy as we could be for 450 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: saym but he is one of the rare guys to 451 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: survive the New York Jets. 452 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: He overcame the Jets and came out clean on the 453 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: other side. 454 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: And so yeah, but like he was twenty I think 455 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: he was twenty when he left USC. Like he couldn't 456 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: buy a beer, right, you know, he couldn't rent a car, 457 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: and yet the Jets were like, here, here are the 458 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: keys to the car, you know, like there's there's a 459 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: They kind of screwed that up in my mind so 460 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: big time because they had Josh McCown there as like 461 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: the veteran quarterback, and then they rushed Sam out onto 462 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: the field right like totally unnecessarily, Like Josh McCown could 463 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: have easily played the role that Dug Peterson played for 464 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: Donovan McNabb. Andy Reid's the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. 465 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: He's got a good defense. First year he gets McNab. 466 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: What does he do? Does he play McNab, No, he 467 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: plays Donovan. He plays Doug Peterson. Lets him be the 468 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: punching bag and let's trains McNab develops McNab and McNabb 469 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: learns from watching Doug Peterson talk at the podium, lead 470 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: in the locker room, like all the stuff. And then 471 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: when the team was ready and McNabb was more ready, 472 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: then they put Don in there and he had a 473 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: great career. You know, the Jets could have done the 474 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 3: exact same thing, but they were so dialed into what 475 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: was on Twitter and talk radio and like blah blah 476 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and they just threw him to the Wolves, 477 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: and of course it was a disaster. 478 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: Yep, that's our team. Yep, go ahead, Tylor Matt. 479 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 5: You're looking at Seattle's free agents this offseason, They're gonna 480 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 5: have a lot of decisions to make Kenneth Walker, a 481 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 5: lot of guys in the secondary. If you were Seattle, 482 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 5: what would you be prioritizing to put yourself in the 483 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 5: best position to repeat as champions? 484 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they already know what guys they they 485 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: don't want back. I think they already know what guys 486 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: they do want back, and then there's just about putting 487 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 3: a price on it. 488 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: You know. 489 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: I think a lot's been written about Ken Walker being MVP. 490 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 3: Will they franchise him? 491 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: No? 492 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: No, they're not going to franchise him at like fourteen 493 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: million or whatever it is. There's a transition tag that 494 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: they could use that's like eleven million. But I think listen, 495 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: I was at the parade. Okay. Two of the first 496 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: people to talk at the parade. One was John Schneider. 497 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: He's got a red solo cup in his hand. He's 498 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: feeling pretty good. And the guy next to him is 499 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, and he's got like these like bud light 500 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: goggles on, so champagne doesn't get in his eyes. Like 501 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: if you're gonna start negotiating on like a three or 502 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: four year deal, like that's the way to start it. Now. 503 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: I just bought a house recently. I should have done 504 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: that with the guy that I was negotiating with. I 505 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: should have been like, all right, bro red solo cup, 506 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: bud light goggles. Now we start talking. 507 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 2: You got it right where you want to right? 508 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, But well, listen, those things can go those things 509 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: can go south sometimes, you know. And so I don't know, 510 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: like this didn't feel like it was going to be 511 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: like that kind of a negotiation. You know, Zach Charbonnet's 512 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: got the bad knee injury and he's coming off. He's 513 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: not going to be ready right away. But I certainly 514 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: think like a four year deal, you know, around like 515 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: eight million like something like that, they could get something 516 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: done if they really want to. Because you lost Clint Kubiak, 517 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some change. So like the more continuity 518 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: you can keep, the better, but there's always going to 519 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: be a price to those things. You got Rashid Shaheed 520 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: at the same time, Clint Kubiak loved him in New Orleans, 521 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: helped get him to Seattle. He's gonna want him in 522 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: Las Vegas because they got Ashchagenci, They'll probably have Mendoza, 523 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 3: they'll have brock Bauers. They'd love a JSN type wide receiver, 524 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: and Shiheit could be that guy for that offense. 525 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: Are you big on Mendoza? 526 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: I am? I am. I've only met him once to 527 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 3: watch his film. Just because he's in the big ten. 528 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: I think he's a really good player. I think he's 529 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: got the makings of what could be. You know, I 530 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: hate to say like brady esque, but he's got a 531 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 3: Bradyesque type style of play. 532 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: You know. 533 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: It's not like he's not gonna make like the top ten, 534 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: Like whoa. That was the craziest wildest, coolest thing, but 535 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: like he has like a death by a thousand paper 536 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: cuts quality where he just like he's like slow death. 537 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 3: He drives it right down the field and then he's 538 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: got the clutch gene two where when a play needs 539 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: to be made at the end of the game, like 540 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: he seems like he's at his best. 541 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: You got something on Brady. 542 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: I highly doubt that Tom Brady ever had a rushing 543 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: touchdown for over twenty two or twenty four yards, whatever 544 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: it was. 545 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: Listen, listen, I will say this, Tom Brady, whatever he's doing, 546 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: kind of like Stafford, he's gotten faster and better looking, 547 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: but he's gotten faster as he's gotten older. So like, 548 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I watched him here when he was the 549 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: starter and his backups were Garoppolo and Brissette, and he 550 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: was I mean, I promise you he was faster, more athletic, 551 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: definitely more chiseled than he was as a rookie. So like, 552 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: age is kind of just a number with some of 553 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: these guys, and he's certainly one of them. 554 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm looking at bra career long rush, not 555 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 5: a rushing touchdown, just career long rush twenty two yards. 556 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: You gotta beat Matt, let's go. Let's go. Well, I 557 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: do remember, like all quarterbacks they have like their one 558 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: like I called a crossover dribble, but just meaning like 559 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: how would I beat a guy and open in the 560 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: open field and we all have our one move and 561 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: he if you remember, he did that one on Brian Urlocker, 562 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: who was a great linebacker, one of the greatest linebackers 563 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: I ever played. He had that one move on ir 564 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Locker and it worked, and it was like, yo, it 565 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: fired him up, fired everyone up. I think her Locker 566 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: was just like, really that move was so bad. It 567 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: was good? 568 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: All for it? 569 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and listen, I got the same I got 570 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: the same limitations. But when it works, you're so fired up. 571 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: I did it once against the University of Miami. I 572 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: was really angry and I was running. I forget who 573 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: the linebacker was and I did my little move and 574 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: it worked and it was just like I wasn't mad anymore, 575 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: and I was like it was great. 576 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: Wait, what was the little move? Like what it's like 577 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: a dead leg. 578 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: It's just like it's seriously like you're it's like a dodge. 579 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: It's like a split dodge. I guess your words, but uh, yeah, 580 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: it's I don't know, like we're not real athletes, so 581 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: you just got to kind of like you're out there 582 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: against real athletes. You gotta I don't know, not get 583 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: hurt and try to get a first down. 584 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: We'll get you out here in a couple of minutes here. 585 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: But you were born in Boulder, you went to school 586 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: of BC. You're a Massachusetts kid. Are you into the 587 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: hockey Olympic hockey here? 588 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I shoot, I know I know a 589 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: lot of those guys. I had not been following yet, 590 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 3: just getting the updates because I don't know, like the 591 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: Olympics aren't like to me what they used to be 592 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: in terms of like I grew up like glued to 593 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 3: the Olympics, like glued. I don't know, it's that's waned 594 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: a little bit. I don't know if that's a me 595 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 3: thing or what that is. But no, I know, not 596 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: know a lot of those guys, just the BC guys. 597 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: My son played hockey, he played with those guys. It's 598 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: it's a really cool thing, you know, get an opportunity 599 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: to play for your country. It's you know, there's just 600 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: so many sports now you can't you can't even like 601 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: hardly keep track of everything. 602 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 603 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: I have a crappy Seattle Seahawk Mount Rushmore that I 604 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: presented to I think it was Kenny Maine. 605 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 2: Uh. They laughed at these guys all ever. 606 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Mount Rushmore? I've got that's 607 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: like it's on my bucket list. Actually really it's awesome. 608 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: Do you know where it is? I've never been? 609 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: Do you know where it is? 610 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: I want to say, Washington, what you can't have? 611 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm making a rule. You can't have a Mount 612 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: Rushmore anything. If you don't know what state Mount Rushmore 613 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: is in. 614 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: Go ant you hear my Seahawks Mount Rushmore. Perhaps you'll 615 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: know why. 616 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: How many people are on Mount Rushmore? 617 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: I believe it's five. 618 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: South Dakota where Yeah, there you go there, Yeah there's 619 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: a guest or someone said it in your ears on Taylor. 620 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: Taylor is all the answers? 621 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Taylor wants? 622 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: I love these like pre game shows where they do trivia, 623 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: or like any show they do trivia, Like you're literally 624 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: wearing an IFB and someone's like talking the control rooms, 625 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: talking into your Oh, I don't know, Joe Am. It's 626 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: like you have a headset on. 627 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know what with me? 628 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were that stupid. 629 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well Dan and I really like to peel 630 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: back the curtain. Uh. 631 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: And so I would put my headset so loud that 632 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: the audience could hear the line that Billy was putting 633 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: in my headsets. 634 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: That's great, it's great. All right, Sorry you're you're Mount Rushmore. Sorry, 635 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore. 636 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what stated. It's very before we get 637 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 2: to the Mount Rushmore though. 638 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: I was trying to get to LDL cholesterol so you 639 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: can promote what it is. 640 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: Crayz Abel is going to be so mad because I 641 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: think he's from South Dakota. Vinitaries from South Dakota. Put 642 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: some respect on South Dakota, dude. Come on, sorry cholesterol, 643 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: what are you doing? Okay LDL cholesterol. I'm trying to 644 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: get people to get screened for their LDL cholesterol. Sort 645 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: of a downer, but I lost my dad in April 646 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: to a sudden heart attack. He was seventy and like 647 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: really really fit. He looked like a crossfitter kind of 648 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: was he. It was just very fit. You know, there's 649 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: a lot of risk factors that can go into stroke 650 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: and heart attacks and dementia and all that stuff. And 651 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: one of the things that specifically can affect heart attacks 652 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: is having your LDL cholesterol too high. This is not 653 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: something that's like diet and exercise it it can sometimes 654 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: just be invisible and genetic. And so my mom when 655 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: that happened to us, my mom, you know, encouraged me 656 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: and my two brothers to get screened and every different 657 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: thing we could think of. I found out that my 658 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: LDL cholesterol is a little bit high, and so that 659 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: puts me at risk for a bunch of different stuff 660 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: if I don't know that. So there is a website 661 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: called cholesterolconnect dot org. It's a free cholesterol screening thing. 662 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: You prick your finger, it takes ten minutes. It's the 663 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: easiest thing you've ever done, and yet really important. So 664 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: you can coach your kids, so you can watch your 665 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: kids play sports, and you can come on great podcasts 666 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: like this. So, yeah, that's something that's an important thing 667 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: to me. I'm not like a doctor, but one of 668 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: the things I appreciated as a young quarterback. Andy Reid 669 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: was my first quarterback, and he had one coaching point 670 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: he'd say to us all the time, so much so 671 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: that Brett fav would kind of make fun of him 672 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: for it, but he would say, stay low in the pocket. 673 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: Stay low in the pocket. Like a lot of the 674 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: stuff that you do bad happens when you're not low 675 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: in the pocket. People on TV will say quarterback has 676 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: to stand tall in the pocket. He'd say, that's a lie. 677 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: Bend your knees, stay low, and so like that helped me, 678 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of like a golf lesson. I never wanted like 679 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: a gazillion things to think about, do this, do that. 680 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: I wanted one thing I could hang my hat on, 681 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: and that helped me as a quarterback. So I kind 682 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: of think of it that way for me. If you 683 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: can get your LDL cholesterol low, you can kind of 684 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: minimize risk and put yourself in a good situation to 685 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: be successful. So that's something i'm working on. It's pretty cool, 686 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: and I'm working with the Family Heart Foundation. They've been really, 687 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: really helpful and really fun to work with. 688 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: I am sorry to hear about your dad, and that 689 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: is an excellent job by you met, So that is awesome. 690 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: We'll continue to promote that. I think Mikey just got 691 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: his cholesterol red correct. 692 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 6: I'm going next week. I'm going next week although I 693 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 6: don't have some little fingerprick they take gallons out of me. 694 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're doing it the hard way, man, like 695 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: we're hard and that's that's that is the thing. Like, 696 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: you know, we were talking about stats earlier, like sometimes 697 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: like when you get your results, like okay, now what 698 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: does this mean? 699 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: You know? 700 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: And so like learning what these numbers mean, I think 701 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: was eye opening to me. Like I always like when 702 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: I played, it was all about orthopedic things, you know, 703 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: it was like ankle, mee, shoulder, ac joint, like can 704 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: you go? Yeah, I can go. This is a little 705 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: bit different, and so it's kind of an adjustment. So 706 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: good on you, Mikey. Good job. 707 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: Yes, no, I love people who say, hey, I don't 708 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: want to know. That's why I don't go. Okay, so 709 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: you want to die? I mean, what the hell is 710 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: the matter? Anyway? Are you ready for a crappy Mount 711 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Rushmore from the state of Washington? 712 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: What do you got? What do you got? 713 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: All right? Taylor presentive. 714 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: So I gave this to Kenny Maine. He's a big 715 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Seahawk fan, as you know, and everyone laughed me out 716 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: of the room. I mean, listen, I'm looking at it 717 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: through you know, a child's eyes, a guy who watch 718 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks in the seven late seventies and eighties. 719 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: But go ahead, Taylor, give them my Mount Rushmore. 720 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: And he gave you a blank stare. 721 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 6: You said it, and he was just like, really that. 722 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: It means good at a blank stare. Really, that's better 723 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: at it. That's such his humor tries to make you uncomfortable. 724 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Taylor. 725 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 5: So it was Largent Cortes, Kennedy, Kenny Easley, Jim Zorn. 726 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 727 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: I mean listen, I hesitate to even take the bait 728 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: on these like lists, in these Mount Rushmoores and that 729 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: kind of thing, because I feel like they're just meant 730 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 3: to like stir it up, like what how could you 731 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. You know, so I love all those guys, 732 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's hard to do whatever. I just this 733 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: would be my one thing. Any list that doesn't have 734 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: Walter Jones on it is that that's just you know, 735 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: and I know it's not a sexy pick. I know 736 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot really great fun people to watch, but 737 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: like you know, Walter Jones, I don't know the numbers, 738 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: I don't know who he does this or whatever, but like, 739 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: let me put it this way. I put it a 740 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: different way. I played in Seattle for ten years. I 741 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: never once ever cared or even thought about who the 742 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: defensive end on that side was. Like in a scouting report, 743 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: it didn't matter. Well, we were never gonna do anything 744 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: other than Walt. You got that guy, Like there's no help, 745 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: there's no sliding, there's no like, there's no nothing. 746 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: You know. 747 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: It just was like, yeah, you're just You're Walter Jones. 748 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: We're good. So I don't know that's gotta come for me. 749 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I fucked. 750 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Well, there was one time. There was one 751 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: time where he gave up a sack, but he didn't 752 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: really give up a sack. It was a three step 753 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: drop and Bruce Smith, I don't know, if you guys 754 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: know Bruce Smith is probably do yeah, you know, and 755 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: he sacked me, and like you know, basically Bruce Smith 756 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 3: after he sacked me, he said something to me like 757 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: that was your fault, you know, like sacked me, helped 758 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: me up, and he was like, hey, that sack was 759 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: your fault. I was like, yeah, I know, I know 760 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: it's my fault. And that's Bruce Smith. I mean, he's 761 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: he's as good as they come too. 762 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, that is so good. 763 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 6: I can't tell if that's great trash talk or terrible 764 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 6: trash talk. 765 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: But for this the funny, this is the funny thing. 766 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: Like when I talked to people like the off season, 767 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl or like whatever, you talk to these 768 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: great pass rushers, they would first thing they want to 769 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: talk about, if it's not crowd noise, they want to 770 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: talk about Walter Jones. And they'd be like, this is 771 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: I remember this. Like one of these guys said this 772 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: to me. I think it was Ocu mian Yora or 773 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: someone like that. He was like the most demoralizing thing 774 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: about going up against Walter Jones. You'll hit him with 775 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: your best pass rush move and it won't work and 776 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 3: he'll stun you. And Walt will say back like, oh 777 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 3: that that was a really good move, like that almost worked. 778 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: Then he sincere like, wow, that was yeahst be and 779 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 3: like the defender, the pass rusher is like, no, this 780 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: is literally the best I've been working on this for 781 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: like a year, like that's the best I got, And 782 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, yeah, that was it was almost good enough, 783 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: great job, yeah, but but I mean it was just 784 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: person after person after person. I mean, we went down 785 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: and played a rivalry game, a rivalry game, and their 786 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: best player on defense came into our locker room before 787 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: the game with a Walter Jones jersey and asked Walt 788 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: to autograph it for him before the game. It was 789 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: just like the respect this dude got was just and 790 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 3: here's one for you. I don't know if this is true, 791 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: but I think it's true in the history of the 792 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame because you have to wait as a player, 793 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: you have to wait five years to be inducted into 794 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. Yes, I think there's one player 795 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: that was inducted in four years after he after he 796 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: was on the team or something like that. Something like that. 797 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: There you go for your How about Belichick not getting in? 798 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: Uh, I mean I don't even understand, Like what are 799 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: we what are we doing? Here's what it reminds me of. 800 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 3: It reminds me of at the Combine, we like measure 801 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: quarterbacks hands and the smallest hands ever recorded. It's like 802 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow like, well, maybe that's a stupid thing to 803 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 3: be measuring. Okay, So, like if Belichick doesn't get into 804 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, like maybe we're voting wrong, like 805 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: maybe we're what are we doing? 806 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: Yes? 807 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: The only thing with Philip coming back is he reset 808 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: that clock. Now he's I mean he's but here's the 809 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: thing kids, By the time he gets it, ok, he 810 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: got five more. 811 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 3: Years of insurance. He's good to go. He needs it. 812 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: Insurance is screwed up too right now. I mean, shoot, 813 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: you need that insurance. 814 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Yes, no question about it. I would like to do 815 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: this more often. If you are available because you're brave. 816 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: I got. 817 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: As long as there's not a an ncuble a lacrosse 818 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: game or an ncublea college football game, I'm pretty much available. 819 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 3: Or shoveling snow. That seems to be my new job 820 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: these days. 821 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: I fought up question of the way out. Did Walter 822 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: Jones ever jump off sides? No? 823 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: In fact, he was always the guy encouraging me to 824 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: go on a hard count because he would say this, 825 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 3: He would say, I don't and he would say it 826 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 3: this way. I don't even want you to get them 827 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: to jump off sides. I just want you to get 828 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: them to lean and then I got them, so like, 829 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: here you go. It's on double cadence, Okay. Brown eighteen, 830 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: Brown eighteen said, hoo uh white eight. Why he said, 831 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: like he knows that, like who he's coming with his 832 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: outside move, or he's coming with his inside move, like 833 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 3: he's done. So if this guy's going this way, someone 834 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 3: over here is coming this way. Like it just it 835 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: was that kind of stuff where me as a quarterback, 836 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm learning from my offensive lineman and I feel like 837 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: you make the whole team better. Again, Like not to 838 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 3: give too much love to Philip Rivers, but like this 839 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: is the kind of stuff that he does so well 840 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: that makes the guys around him better. And you know, 841 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: other young quarterbacks, I see them having such a great 842 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 3: hard count. They're causing their own guys to jump off sides. Yes, 843 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: like what are what are we doing here? Guys? It 844 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: was second and one? What are we doing? 845 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: Matt? Thanks so much for the time. We appreciate it. 846 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: I hope to do it again soon. Man, Thank you 847 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: for sure. 848 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed it. 849 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: See all right,