WEBVTT - Mad or Wise: Emperor Norton I

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Hell Hello, Sorry, I was buried under some interns.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh were you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're having a cuttle fight.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I'm gonna tell each charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that sounds bad. It sounds really their four legged interns.

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<v Speaker 3>Elisam okay, well, okay, so bad. You know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh spill it, sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I was very excited to learn that the

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<v Speaker 2>Ghanaian seti, their unit of currency, was the world's best

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<v Speaker 2>performing currency in twenty twenty five. Oh good, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not ridiculous. So that's good. But it did it searts

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<v Speaker 2>nearly fifty percent in value against the US dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm suspicious, but this is good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, And then this has caused some problems back home. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so there are people who are not super fond of this,

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<v Speaker 2>like well, for instance, the goods have become more expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>like inflationary proper.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a group of people who've been now petitioning

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<v Speaker 2>the government for change, right and well, I'll just read

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. They are The group is called the

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<v Speaker 2>Ghana Drunkards Association, and they have issued a three week

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<v Speaker 2>ultimatum to the government to reduce the price of alcoholic beverages.

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<v Speaker 2>They claim to have sixteen million members nationwide and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to stage a massive demonstration if they're demand for

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<v Speaker 2>lower priced alcohol and other drinks. They point out not

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<v Speaker 2>just alcohol, but all these drinks are and to date,

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<v Speaker 2>quote the price of alcoholic drinks keeps going up. If

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<v Speaker 2>you purchase alcohol, there's an increment about fifteen percent, and

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<v Speaker 2>this affects vendors. We've learned that the set he has

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<v Speaker 2>gained some strength, and prices of some items have been reduced. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of alcohol remains high. And so they're upset

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<v Speaker 2>because they're like, this is part of our culture. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they literally say that we have given them,

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<v Speaker 2>the government a three week grace period to meet us

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<v Speaker 2>so we can deliberate on how to reduce the prices

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<v Speaker 2>of alcohol. They're a very serious group of drunkards, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're going to do a protest, yes, notably to

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<v Speaker 3>boycott the alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know, no, no, come on, be ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but they said, we're not just concerned about drinking for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our livelihood and social fabric. When alcohol becomes

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<v Speaker 2>too expensive, it affects our community and economy and culture. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were talking to the Guinahan government good luck,

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<v Speaker 2>con and Druggards Association Luck ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>That is one hundred percent ridiculous. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>know what else is ridiculous? Yeah, getting arrested for being

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<v Speaker 3>crazy when the truth is Saren, We're all crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 3>heists and cons. It's always ny nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 3>and one hundred percent ridiculous. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Said before, and I'll say it again. Yes, I love

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<v Speaker 3>a good character, you do. I love a good eccentric.

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<v Speaker 2>You will text me when you find one.

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<v Speaker 3>We we need weirdos, you need them, and I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like our current society seriously shuns them. You think so, well, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about like genuine weirdos.

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<v Speaker 2>Not people who want people doing it for the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And it's not attention seeking behavior and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>negatively impacting others.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, it's so social mavericks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, people who.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they're just out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, I got to live by my own rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it ain't hurting nobody here in the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 3>That used to be common. Yes, people living on the fringe,

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<v Speaker 3>like being aborious, like existing way beyond the present in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of how they saw the world and the way

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<v Speaker 3>they expressed them.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of rainbow children, Star warriors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that died out. It was it was run

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<v Speaker 3>off by tech money.

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<v Speaker 2>Really could honest literally could.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the tech folks. They all wear the same clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm painting with a broad brush purposefully.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, they like to eat.

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<v Speaker 3>And shop at chain places because it will always be

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<v Speaker 3>the same wherever they go at upscale chains. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>still sure, And don't say I'm overstating it, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen it with my own eyes, own.

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes, you know, I've entered that into my Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the bit, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Says, says I.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, Ah Streeter.

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<v Speaker 3>So, in honor of the San Francisco weirdos, in honor

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<v Speaker 3>of the crazy dreamers everywhere, in honor of those who

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<v Speaker 3>create their own reality for the benefit of humankind, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a guy for you today.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is it?

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<v Speaker 3>This is an ode to an outsider in praise of

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<v Speaker 3>the eccentriccentric. I mentioned this guy a little while ago,

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<v Speaker 3>saying I should do an episode about him. This guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Joshua Abraham Norton aka Emperor Norton aka Norton, the first

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<v Speaker 3>Emperor the United States and Protector of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 3>He is one of my favorite San Francisco Gold Rush characters,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's actually one of my favorite characters full stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Large.

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<v Speaker 3>A year or two ago, you invited me to come

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<v Speaker 3>with you as you went on the Emperor Norton Historical

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<v Speaker 3>walking Tour in San francs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a private It was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Us and the three of us walking around San Francisco. Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing, I was. It was not something I would have

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<v Speaker 3>imagined that I'd love as much as I did. It

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<v Speaker 3>was fascinating, engaging the guy who plays Norton totally fabulous

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<v Speaker 3>if you ever have a chance to recommend it. So good.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing that stuck with me when was when we

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<v Speaker 3>were walking down the street, if we passed a cop

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<v Speaker 3>on foot, they'd salute the Emperor and say Emperor yes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently that's what cops back and the day did

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<v Speaker 3>for the real Emperor tition. Yeah. But when that's back

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<v Speaker 3>when weirdos were allowed, so to have the cops today

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<v Speaker 3>do the same thing for the guy leading a walking

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<v Speaker 3>tour while in costume. Felt like a little slice of

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<v Speaker 3>old San Francisco totally because the guy who plays Norton,

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<v Speaker 3>he's an eccentric type too. I love him. He's like

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<v Speaker 3>classic San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a clamper too, so he's into the whole, like

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<v Speaker 2>keeping things weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so it's eccentric San Francisco in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>real San Francisco. So let me regale you with the

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<v Speaker 3>tale of real Emperor Norse.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>Please no Norton. He was born in England to Jewish parents

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<v Speaker 3>in eighteen eighteen. Okay, his dad was a farmer and

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<v Speaker 3>then a merchant, and when he was two years old,

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<v Speaker 3>his parents moved the family to South Africa. They went

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<v Speaker 3>as part of this like colonial effort. British colonists were

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<v Speaker 3>sent by the UK government to live in the Eastern

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<v Speaker 3>Cape of South Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, they're trying to take over for the Boers

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<v Speaker 2>that yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So by eighteen thirty nine he was living in Port Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 3>South Africa. He and his brother in law started a

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<v Speaker 3>business together but it flopped and then it lasted only

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<v Speaker 3>like a year and a half. He bummed around, He

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<v Speaker 3>worked for his dad for a little bit, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he was like an auctioneer. But then he had this

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<v Speaker 3>urge to move, so he hopped on a ship to

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<v Speaker 3>Liverpool and from there he headed to Boston. Shipping up

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<v Speaker 3>to Boston. That was like eighteen forty six or so.

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<v Speaker 3>By eighteen forty nine, the fateful year of gold discovery

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<v Speaker 3>in the Hills, Norton was in San Francisco already. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was there. So later accounts would say, quote in

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen forty nine, on the fifth day of November, Norton

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<v Speaker 3>arrived in San Francisco from the Cape of Good Hope

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<v Speaker 3>via Rio de Janio and Valparaiso. So legend was that

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<v Speaker 3>he arrived in San Francisco with forty thousand dollars on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>There is also a speculation that in between Boston and

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco it was like three year period that he'd

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<v Speaker 3>stopped off in South America and done business there and

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<v Speaker 3>made serious cash. So whether like the some thought that

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<v Speaker 3>the forty thousand was like an inherent tints from his

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<v Speaker 3>father either way, or if it's just like a juiced

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<v Speaker 3>up version, we can only speculate either way.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got stack.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got stacks. This author, Theodore Kertschoff. He wrote a

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<v Speaker 3>series of essays in eighteen eighty six in German called

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<v Speaker 3>Californish Colt will be the I'm saying, so it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like Californish culture builder. Okay, but it's like cult Bielda. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an amazing name. I want our friend Derek to

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<v Speaker 3>make a vehicle named after that.

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<v Speaker 2>My German friend Derek, you are, you know, beloved.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a major friend of the show. He's like, he's

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<v Speaker 3>an honorary intern. Really, I'd say so, even though he

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<v Speaker 3>has two legs and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So anyway, it translates to Californian cultural images. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>not California culture Builder, which I think is cooler, but

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<v Speaker 3>either way sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So he said that Norton was one of seven passengers

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<v Speaker 3>aboard the steamer Francesca out of Rio headed for the

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<v Speaker 3>Bay San Francisco Bay on the twenty third of November

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen forty nine, and so that that was a gold

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<v Speaker 3>fever boat, right. Yeah, we have records that the boat arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>but not who was on it. And that was really

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<v Speaker 3>really common at the time. It was just a free

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<v Speaker 3>for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure that the purser jumped ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, there's no immigration station there nothing. You just

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<v Speaker 3>jump off the boat and run.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not a state closed down.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, and there's a record of ships, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>because they were hauling cargo and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's go with this as our truth here. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>he got there. So no matter how it happened, he

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<v Speaker 3>wasted no time setting up shop. He set up a

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<v Speaker 3>real estate and import business called Joshua Norton and Company.

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<v Speaker 3>That's as plexible title. And it was a success. In

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<v Speaker 3>just three years. He turned a two to a four,

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<v Speaker 3>turned a four to an eighth. So what was forty

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<v Speaker 3>grand when he first got here? By eighteen fifty one

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<v Speaker 3>he had two hundred and fifty grand. Wow, that's more

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<v Speaker 3>than eight million dollars today. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a businessman, he's a business man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Norton from just another guy showing up to the

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<v Speaker 3>gold Rush to like a successful businessman respected by the community.

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<v Speaker 3>He was in with the city's elites. He joined all

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<v Speaker 3>the good social clubs. The Swells invited him to all

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<v Speaker 3>these amazing parties, he networked with the best of them.

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<v Speaker 3>He had totally made it in this fantastic boom town.

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<v Speaker 3>But saren, Yeah, it wouldn't last.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>He made all the right choices until he didn't. What

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<v Speaker 3>can we explain this to you?

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<v Speaker 2>You see, I wonder where he could go wrong. He's

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<v Speaker 2>doing so well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. Okay. So eighteen fifty two, there's a famine

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<v Speaker 3>in China. Things are dire so coming out of the

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<v Speaker 3>First Opium War in the Treaty of Nanking, the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>were on the losing end of that agreement with the British,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you add in then the Taiping Rebellion, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a drought. So between eighteen fifty one and eighteen seventy three,

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<v Speaker 3>ten to thirty million people died of starvation. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>not they do. Don't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Humiliations, they call it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So there's a rice shortage in San Francisco. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>rice prices as a result of this, rice prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Spiked because all the rice is going to China.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coming it was coming from China.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and they're just holding they're just holding onto their own.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they didn't have the rice production in California, like they.

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<v Speaker 2>Have Oh, interesting, so that's a more modern Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean there really there was nothing going on

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<v Speaker 3>in Central Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's why I thought they got to feed people

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<v Speaker 2>that rice is a cheap starch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the rice prices it was, they were up

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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred percent. Yeah. An importer came to Norton and said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I had this huge opportunity. You can corner the market

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<v Speaker 3>on rice in San Francisco. There's a shipment of rice

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<v Speaker 3>coming from Peru, and you can buy it at twelve

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<v Speaker 3>and a half cents a pound as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 3>going rate of thirty six cents a pound. Huh, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's only Yeah, it's going to cost you twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>grand and then you can flip it. So he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it gives them a two grand deposit on the contract.

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<v Speaker 3>The boat was scheduled to arrive December twenty second, eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two. He was stoked. He was about to make

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<v Speaker 3>serious cash. He had the cash on delivery money ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty three thousand dollars. Ship comes into harbor, unloads, Norton

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<v Speaker 3>pays up. He's sitting on white gold seriously. But then

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<v Speaker 3>more ships started showing up from Peru and full of rice.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so that wasn't the that was the only one shift.

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<v Speaker 3>After another with way better rice on board.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I was thinking is that anywhere the Spanish

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<v Speaker 2>would have been there were they would have had rice

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<v Speaker 2>start being cultivated exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So he gets America like it's like the crud rice,

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<v Speaker 3>and then like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Goods, he doesn't even get the goods st No, so the.

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<v Speaker 3>Good stuff starts, you know, coming in the market's flooded.

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<v Speaker 3>Rice goes down to three cents a pounds and he

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<v Speaker 3>is thinking he's buying it at twelve and a half cents.

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<v Speaker 3>So Buddy's underwater on a boatload of subpar res. He'd

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<v Speaker 3>been had bamboozled, so he tried to get the contract

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<v Speaker 3>nullified on the grounds of fraud. The fight went to court,

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<v Speaker 3>wound its way through there for two years, and it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a cheap fight.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's got paid the legal.

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<v Speaker 3>Cost him and then bankrupted him. Basically. In October of

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen fifty four, he finally lost. The California Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 3>ruled that the contract held What Yeah, so there he is,

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<v Speaker 3>He's broke, dejected, He couldn't jumpstart his business because he's

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<v Speaker 3>his cash is gone. So he ran for office as

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<v Speaker 3>you do. Eighteen fifty five, He's like, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>be in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>He ran for San Francisco tax collector in eighteen two, Sara.

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<v Speaker 3>He did not win.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing not.

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<v Speaker 3>Filed for bankruptcy in eighteen fifty six on the August

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifth, eighteen fifty rice. Yeah, rice a'rony the.

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco tree. The irony of this, I know it

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<v Speaker 2>runs deep.

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<v Speaker 3>So the San Francisco Daily Evening Bulletin they published a notice.

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<v Speaker 3>In August of eighteen fifty six, Joshua Norton filed a

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<v Speaker 3>petition for the benefit of the insolvency law. Liabilities fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five eight eleven dollars, assets stated at fifteen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>uncertain in value.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, So he lost everything, lost everything off of one

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<v Speaker 2>attempt at corner. So he gets got too greedy in

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<v Speaker 2>a sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he thought I'm going to get one up.

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<v Speaker 2>On it everybody. And again it's he didn't investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>rice market of South America. No, he didn't really recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that how many there were rice coming before you make

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<v Speaker 2>a purchase that big you need to know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about the mark.

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<v Speaker 3>All the right choices. Until he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>They got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. So this is like a tipping point for him.

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<v Speaker 3>He lost touch with reality. And in eighteen fifty eight

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<v Speaker 3>he made an announcement he's running for Senate, and when

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<v Speaker 3>people headed to the polls the next year, his name

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't on the ballot. It was like just a general announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't file.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he's like, oh, get into bars, open doors.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's this ailed businessman. He's lost everything, he lost

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<v Speaker 3>his fancy digs. He was at this point, he's living

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<v Speaker 3>in a boarding house.

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<v Speaker 2>He has no family, no wife, no maub himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Gone are the glamorous parties, the social set had like

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<v Speaker 3>passed him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the connections in.

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<v Speaker 3>The power gone. And it's not that he'd lost his mind.

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<v Speaker 3>He was still sharp and insightful. He'd lost faith in

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<v Speaker 3>the system. He kind of broke him. He's disillusioned with everything.

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<v Speaker 3>He felt that he had to help get everything, society, people,

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<v Speaker 3>the city back on track. He could do it. He

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<v Speaker 3>could get people back to where they needed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the world's out off kilter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he tried sales for a little while

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<v Speaker 3>after his bankruptcy. Ran an ad in the paper offering

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<v Speaker 3>China sugars for sale, but it wasn't a goer. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know what that is. Yeah, China sugar product.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So for a few years he scraped by. He was

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<v Speaker 3>living in this cheap boarding house, staying under the radar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>quite a change from his earlier days. But then he

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<v Speaker 3>made a splash. In July of eighteen fifty nine, he

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<v Speaker 3>took out an ad in the San Francisco Daily Evening

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<v Speaker 3>Bulletin newspaper. It wasn't so much an ad as a manifesto.

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<v Speaker 3>It reads as follows manifesto from Joshua Norton, Citizens of

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<v Speaker 3>the Union. The Union is threatened with dissolution. Dissensions exist

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<v Speaker 3>between the North and South. Measures affecting the general welfare

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<v Speaker 3>cannot be got through Congress. Confidence ceases to exist with

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<v Speaker 3>foreigners in the integrity and stability of the institutions of

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<v Speaker 3>the country. Will you inaugurate a new state of things?

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<v Speaker 3>Joshua Norton. So it's like, oh, what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he understand a manifesto is not supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>an open question.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's you know, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>A manifesto, are you guys juting it so like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like pretty much your basic crackpot stuff totally having worked

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<v Speaker 3>in municipal government for a period of time, like this

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the city council.

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<v Speaker 3>You got three minutes, yes, but then two months later

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<v Speaker 3>he's back with another message like this is like pre

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<v Speaker 3>Zodiac good messages. At the peremptory request of a large

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<v Speaker 3>majority of the citizens of these United States, I Joshua Norton,

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<v Speaker 3>formerly of al Goa Bay, Cape of Good Hope, and

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<v Speaker 3>now for the last nine years and ten months past,

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<v Speaker 3>of San Francisco, California, declare and proclaim myself Emperor of

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<v Speaker 3>these United States, And, in virtue of the authority thereby

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<v Speaker 3>and me vested, do hereby order and direct the representatives

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<v Speaker 3>of the different States of the Union to assemble in

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<v Speaker 3>Musical Hall in this city on the first day of

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<v Speaker 3>February next then and there to make such alterations in

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<v Speaker 3>the existing laws of the Union as may ameliorate the

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<v Speaker 3>evils under which the country is laboring, and thereby cause

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<v Speaker 3>confidence to exist both at home and abroad in our

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<v Speaker 3>stability and integrity. Norton the first Emperor of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to lose your marbles, have fun with her,

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<v Speaker 2>have a blast. If your country is in civil war,

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<v Speaker 2>be the one I'm gonna have.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be the voice. I'll do it fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone wants me to do it. No longer. Joshua Norton,

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<v Speaker 3>He's now Norton, the first Emperor of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>So his message ran in the paper, not as a

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<v Speaker 3>proclamation or called arms, but as a comic bit is

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<v Speaker 3>the way they the paper's fund it, like, oh, what

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<v Speaker 3>an eccentric we have on our hands type thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>from that moment until he took his last breath, Joshua

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<v Speaker 3>Norton was now emperor in the eyes of the good

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<v Speaker 3>people of San Francisco for real. So according to this

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<v Speaker 3>documentary Timothy speed Levitch quote, some say he'd gone mad,

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<v Speaker 3>others say he'd gone wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Distinction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's take a break and I'll tell you more

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<v Speaker 3>about Joshua Norton and his grand visions when we get back, Zaren, Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So Joshua Norton, Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm loving Norton the first because of one thing, Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>that people just asked me when I was young like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want to do it for a living?

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought this was a career path. Apparently it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I wanted to be a holy fool. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>what they got to do, and I'm like, that's the move, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you just get to live in your own world. And

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, oh, we just let him do this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you do that? He nailed it, He figured

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<v Speaker 2>it out. You got to go bigger than I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm gonna be emperor.

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<v Speaker 3>He hit the sweet spot right like this time and

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<v Speaker 3>place totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was keeping himself busy with lots of decrees

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<v Speaker 3>he got to. He'd hand them off to the local papers.

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<v Speaker 3>They were happy to run them because like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>great copy and it wasn't limited to San Francisco papers.

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<v Speaker 3>They would run them and then those would get picked

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<v Speaker 3>up by wire services and they ran all over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for real? Oh yeah, the syndicated the brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so just like and it just built up the

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 3>like San Francisco's coooky reputation for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he helped the stabblers to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So on October twelfth, eighteen fifty nine, he called

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<v Speaker 3>for the formal abolition of the United States Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>A very popular and again.

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<v Speaker 3>He invited everyone to meet up at the musical hall

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<v Speaker 3>in February of eighteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>The great American music called San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it just doesn't exist anymore. He was like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do this, folks, let's gather, let's tear tear it. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get together and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tear it all down, show up at the music hall.

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<v Speaker 3>So through eighteen sixty one he ran ten more proclamations.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me give you some highlights. October twenty fourth and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventh of eighteen fifty nine, he went after the

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<v Speaker 3>California Supreme Court. He first invited appeals to his authority.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he officially abolished the state Supreme Court. Remember you

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<v Speaker 3>know he had that beef against the rifies.

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<v Speaker 2>They made him poor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they'll pay for that. November third, eighteen fifty

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<v Speaker 3>he censured defamatory publications. So he said that quote scurrilous

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<v Speaker 3>and untrue articles shall not insult the nation's honesty, just

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<v Speaker 3>in general. Just don't lie.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, don't stop it, France.

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<v Speaker 3>You stop it. No, he's talking about the public papers.

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<v Speaker 3>No more yellow journalism. Off knock it off, pals.

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<v Speaker 2>So he wasn't like badmouth America in your press is

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<v Speaker 2>American press.

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<v Speaker 3>You're making us all dishonest.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>November seventeenth, eighteen fifty nine, he condemned the John Brown

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<v Speaker 3>Insurrection issued a proclamation alerting that quote treasonable and malignant

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<v Speaker 3>motives in Virginia and Maryland must be punished, even at

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<v Speaker 3>the risk of bloodshed. Just an interesting position for him

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<v Speaker 3>to take, given his later views. December twenty eighth, eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty nine, he then removed Virginia Governor Henry Wise Oh

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<v Speaker 3>for hanging John Brown, and he appointed John C. Breckenridge's replacement.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of an about face.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he really flipped on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>He did a flip, but he kind of he thought

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<v Speaker 3>about it a little more than he's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to pull this governor. He's bad, he's bad

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<v Speaker 3>business problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>January fourth, eighteen sixty, he summoned the US Army to

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<v Speaker 3>depose Congress. He ordered military action against Congress because no

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<v Speaker 3>one was enforcing his decrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so he's like turning the cannons on Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. And I need to note here that the February first,

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 3>eighteen sixty music Hall had to be rescheduled because the place.

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<v Speaker 3>So the place burned down on January twenty third, Oh like,

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<v Speaker 3>no worries. On January twenty eighth, he made another decree

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<v Speaker 3>that the venue would be moved to the Assembly Hall,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would be February fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>To update your calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, slight little adjustment.

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<v Speaker 2>Down the street. Don't worry, convenience. February five, refreshing eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty, he called a national convention. He wanted representative all

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<v Speaker 3>the states to come to a different music hall.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Plats music hall on the music hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, party, different music hall. We're going to ameliorate the

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<v Speaker 3>nation's ills, guys. But just like posse up, yeah, les,

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 3>here's a big dog one sure. On July sixteenth, eighteen sixty,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 3>he dissolved the United States of America, the whole thing.

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he declared, finally somewhat brave enough to do it.

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 3>He declared the Republic dissolved, and he advocated for a

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 3>temporary monarchy. Was like I'm doing my Rodney Dangerfield collar pole.

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<v Speaker 2>So he basically saying, we'll keep this United States part

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<v Speaker 2>and America part, but it's now no longer republicsh no longer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's under I'm the captain. Would you be an empire?

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<v Speaker 3>He's the emperor, I think, so, you know whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>he slowed down a little on the decrease after.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Oh, I took it out of He's pretty much

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 2>gone to the top.

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<v Speaker 3>What was there to do? He didn't stop. In eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty one, he expanded his title. So there was unrest

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 3>in Mexico and he figured they needed his help, so

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<v Speaker 3>he changed his title to Emperor of the United States

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<v Speaker 3>and Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also a big move eighteen sixty one. I mean,

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 2>the United States is in civil war. He doesn't know

0:23:58.480 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>that's going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Play out right, quite frankly, where he was in San

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Francisco had been Mexico exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's reconnect this matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But then he thought better of it the next

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 3>year and he decided to be Emperor of the United

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<v Speaker 3>States and Protector of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more, Yeah, he's like, they're good on their own.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 2>I just want to like shield them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to protect that. Yeah. So eighteen sixty two,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 3>he demanded that Catholic and Protestant churches formally ordain him

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 3>emperor in response to the divisions causing the Civil War,

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<v Speaker 3>like apparent, Yeah, it wasn't so much a sectarian thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, okay, well, yes, July twenty fifth, eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty ninety, went futurist.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 3>He announced his support of this like innovative airship. In fact,

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 3>he ordered San Franciscans to provide financial backing for Frederick

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 3>Marriott's airship experiments. I'm digging that's a sign of the

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 3>tech industry to come.

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Future thinking. I love this, and also like, that's really

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>early on that.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He August twelfth, eighteen sixty nine, swinging for the fences,

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 3>but in something that made sense if you were living

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 3>under an emperor. He abolished major political parties.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you don't need them anymore.

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 3>He officially. He officially dissolved both the Democratic and Republican

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 3>parties in order to quell partisan strife. I can get

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 3>with that, sure. Between eighteen sixty eight and eighteen seventy eight,

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 3>he released a flurry of proclamations, more than seventeen defending

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 3>the rights of the Chinese in America. He wanted equal

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 3>treatment for Chinese immigrants, including the including He demanded admission

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 3>of Chinese testimony in courts.

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, because it couldn't testify it.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is even before the Chinese Exclusion Act of

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Just about to say, it's just so.

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 3>He saw how poorly Chinese immigrants in San Francisco were treated.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 3>They were the working backbone of the city and they

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 3>contributed greatly and still due to the culture and spirit

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 3>of San Francisco. Pained him to see how they were

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 3>mistreated and abused. There's this one from.

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>April Chinatown, right right where he is.

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's this one from April eighteen seventy six

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 3>proclamation by Emperor Norton. Whereas the attempted legislation of the

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 3>State and City of San Francisco to offer an indignity

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 3>to the Chinese will bring the American lawmakers into contempt.

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 3>And whereas we are determined to keep inviolate our treaty

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 3>obligations between the Empire of China and the United States. Now, therefore,

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 3>we Norton, the First Dia Grascia, Emperor, do hereby order

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 3>the military and police authorities to arrest and have promptly

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 3>punished all persons who shall counsel any outrage or in

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<v Speaker 3>dignity against the Chinese.

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<v Speaker 2>First, I love it.

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Also, he's got the language so good and the all

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 3>caps whereas oh, well, his proclamations were often before their time,

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 3>like the airship thing. He spoke out against corruption and

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 3>fraud of all corporate political personal He supported women's suffrage.

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>He demanded fair treatment and enhanced legal protections for not

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 3>just Chinese immigrants, but all immigrants and all racial and

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 3>ethnic minorities. Yeah. For instance, he decreed that black people

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 3>should be allowed to ride public street cars and be

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 3>admitted to public schools across the nation.

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>WHOA, Yeah, he desegregated in America.

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 3>He did, like eighteen seventy in defensive days.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>It was actually before technically had been fully segregated. Because

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>before you get to focus in, he's like, he's going

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 2>to stop that.

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:34.719
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I know how they're all off.

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I can see how reconstruction's failing.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He defended Native Americans. He proclaimed, quote all Indian

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.959
<v Speaker 3>agents and other parties connected with frauds against the Indian

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 3>tribes were to be publicly punished before as many quote

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Indian chiefs as could be assembled together.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>We're going to bring the Indian agents. Had the ice

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 2>for Native American issues, at the time, He's like, look,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 2>we when bring the Indian chiefs together, make these guys

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>get exactly. I think a lot of people get behind that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so if you were to classify his belief system,

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 3>he was a religious humanist who didn't believe in organized religion.

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 3>He saw Puritanism as a grave danger to society. He

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 3>was a staunch believer in separation of church and state,

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 3>so far even though he wanted the Catholics and the

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Protestants to deem him and you're.

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Going to have spots.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 3>He was strongly against blue laws.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 2>You want people to know to drink.

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, anything closed. If he had to force something to

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 3>close on Sunday, or any probition of any commerce on Sunday,

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>he said it quote discriminated against the Germans and the Jews.

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Huh the Germans they like their beer.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's true, I guess. So.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 3>He believed in technology as a means of advancing social

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 3>well being and prosperity. He believed in fair taxes and

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 3>their applications towards a robust transportation infrastructure.

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a really good platform so to hear

0:28:59.200 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 2>for it.

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 3>In fact, he was the one who championed the idea

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 3>for a bay bridge linking San Francisco to Oakland.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>That was his idea.

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was in response, Okay, there was Why did

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 3>they call it the Emperor Norton Bridge. Well, that's there.

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to get it real. Yeah, there's a movement

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 3>for that. So December eighteen seventy one, The Evening Bulletin

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>ran an editorial about this proposal that the Central Pacific

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Railroad Company had. They wanted to build a bridge across

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco Bay at its narrowest point, and they wanted

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 3>the people of San Francisco to underwrite a three million

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 3>dollar bond issue to pay for the job. That's like

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 3>eighty million today, which would be a bargain totally.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, you couldn't build a road then, So.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bulletin was firmly against this idea, mainly because the

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 3>narrowest point was well south of San Francisco and would

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 3>link to very rural areas on the East Bay. So

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 3>it's like rural area to rural area. Scond to do.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not helping anybody. It's like where we currently have

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the bridges at the bottom of the day, like.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 3>That Sano Bridge would be like where the Sanitaeio Bridge is.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 3>So Emperor Norton springs into action. He called for a

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 3>bridge between San Francisco and Oakland via what is now

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 3>You're ba Buena Island. It was Goat Island at the time.

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Boom Yeah. Then he doubled down and he demanded an

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>underwater tunnel from San Francisco to Oakland.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 2>He nailed the Bart Tunnel.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Room.

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 3>People thought he was crazy, or like crazier than he

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 3>already was. Sure, but history, as you said, bears him out.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>So the San Francisco Oakland Bay Bridge opened on November twelfth,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty six, sixty four years after he argued for

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the exact same thing in the exact same place. You're

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>bre Buena Island at all. The trans By Tube for

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Bay Area Rapid Transit BART opened September sixteenth, nineteen seventy four.

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 3>That is a full one hundred and two years after

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 3>he called for an underwater rail tunnel connecting Oakland San Francisco.

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like a Jules Vern he just saw it before

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>other people said no.

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, granted, not all of his proclamations were serious.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Naturally.

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 3>August thirty, first, eighteen seventy, he'd decreed, quote, let there

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 3>be peace socially under penalty of grabbing the first young

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 3>lady we can get our hands on. We command the

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 3>ladies to forthwith supply us with an empress. Wait, what

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 3>he's just like, find me a girlfriend.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like, by decree, get me a woman. No, get

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>me a girlfriend, and he's asking the ladies to find

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>him one wrestle.

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love this social commentary in the San Francisco

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Chronicle from eighteen sixty five. Quote. We have received the

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 3>following quote unquote proclamation from Emperor Norton, and presume that

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 3>the fact of it having reference to operatic manners furnishes

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>the reason of the chronicle being selected on this occasion

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>as the medium for propagating the imperial will. So here

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 3>it is the man that has no music in his

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 3>soul is fit for treason, stratagem, and spoils. Let no

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 3>such man be trusted. The Emperor's royal will and pleasure

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>is that all his lady subjects should take their husbands

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 3>and friends to the opera and refine and improve the

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 3>public taste. The nation that supports music shows an advancement

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 3>in civilization and refinement twenty one December eighteen sixty five,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Norton the First.

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 2>As a lady subject, Do you.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Agree, amen, Yes, I totally agree with that. There's this

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 3>nonsense from September of eighteen seventy quote. Whereas we have

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>been informed that one phil Magilder alamagazumum wang doodlum Larium

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Murriam is engaged plotting with conspirators to usurp our prerogatives

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>and is a traitor to our person and scepter. And

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 3>whereas all movements of such nature tend to weaken the

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.959
<v Speaker 3>stability of our government at home and cause it to

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 3>fall into the contempt and ridicule with foreign nations. Now, therefore,

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 3>we Norton the First Dio Gratia, Emperor of the United

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>States and Protector of Mexico, hereby decree that Philip Magilder

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Alama Gazulam wang doodlum Larium Murriam be appointed chief of

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Police to ex Emperor Louis Napoleon Boudaparte, and that be

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 3>forthwith leave our realm to fill such appointment.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Frands like you go be.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 3>The police achievement.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Friend.

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's some inside city joke here that

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't decode the name. I don't know who he's

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 3>mocking whatever. You know, So he's going after someone who's like,

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 3>you know who you are?

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Everybody know.

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's what I find with a lot of

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 3>old papers is they make statements and obviously are referencing

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 3>something else that everyone knows about.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Anyone. What was I think it's like kind of like

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the Becky with the good hair. It'd be really hard

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>to know what that means in the future.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what was ebraor Norton's life like on the

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 3>day to day when he's writing all these proclamations. I'm

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 3>so glad I asked you to ask that he started

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>his morning by reading every single local paper, and there

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 3>were more than just a few. Busy Yeah, and they

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 3>need stroll around the city dressed in Imperial garb. So

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 3>he wore a regimental uniform, sometimes a Union uniform, sometimes

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 3>a Confederate uniform.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>He's just like, I got a bunch of these.

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, You're like whatever looked most official to him that day.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 3>He get the uniforms is like hand me down donations

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>from the army base at the Presidio. And so he

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>carried this huge hand carved walking stick, and when he

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>was feeling fancy, he'd put on oversized gold epaulets on

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>his uniform okay, and he'd carry a sword instead of

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>the walking stick. And he wore a.

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Beaver hat brandished or like in a saber.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Like in a saber.

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's it's on his hip. He's not like

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>walking around like waving a somebody would.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 3>Like maybe gesticulate with it. Occasionally he wore a beaver

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 3>hat with an ostrich How much this exactly he had

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 3>is huge, yeah, huge ostrich plume in his hat. He

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 3>always wore a carnation on his lapel is any meaning well,

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 3>no flores would give him day old flowers that were

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 3>beyond their cell by day, and so he would. They

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 3>would just you know, as a.

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Courtesy to them.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 3>He wore shoes that he cut holes in his own

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 3>shoes to relieve his corns.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh god.

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So in the afternoons he would go to the

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 3>library and he read books there or he worked on

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 3>his prop.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Clamation reader the Emperor.

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he played chess at the library.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And now with a regular partner or just anybody.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 3>He'd go. In the evenings, he would go to like

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.280
<v Speaker 3>public debates or lectures.

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, talking series.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he would sometimes go to the theater because the

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 3>owners of the theaters held a prime seat for him

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 3>on all opening nights. Really, yeah, he had his own

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 3>He lived on other people's charity. So the Masons of

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>which he had been a member in his original days,

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 3>his old and his old business partners, they all paid

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 3>his rent at the boarding house. The yeah, citizens bought

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 3>him meals and drinks and like paid his general living expenses.

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 3>He referred to these as taxes.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's going to be like an honor. If

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>you see him in a restaurant, you go over and.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Like let me, or the owners like please no sit.

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 3>And he.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Wanted to be a holy I don't even need money.

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>But so like he started printing up his own promisory notes.

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>They can in all these different denominations, So.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>He made his own money.

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the notes were payable at seven percent interest in

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 3>eighteen eighty I don't know, and most places in the

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 3>city honored it as legal tender. And he was listed

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 3>in the local directory and in the eighteen seventy census

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 3>as emperor emperor nor in.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>The first and do you think people are exchanging them?

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, knowing that, like, oh, this will be

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>good for you. If I can do this, you can

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>then spend it over.

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I think I'll just eat the cost or whatever. But

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I've got this.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's actually second time.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 3>I think it was just only from him.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>You only want to get him from me.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, he was good for business totally. So imagine

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.479
<v Speaker 3>tourist shops sold little plaster figurines of him?

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding?

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Because people were reading about him in.

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 2>The paps no national internet exactly.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>So he lit his boarding house was at six twenty

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 3>four Commercial Street, which was a nine by six room.

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 3>It cost him fifty nine by six, nine by six,

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 3>no closet, a little wash based.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Nine by six and lie down in one direction.

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 3>That block of Commercial is now named after him. In fact,

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>you and I went to the dedications they renamed it.

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you know who worked three doors down at the

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 3>morning call newspaper?

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Ok, I cheat and say I don't say it? Is

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>it Mark Twain?

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes? It is Samuel Clemens. He was a huge fan

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>of the Emperor.

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that. Yeah, and he knows you know. It's like,

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>how do you never appreciate this?

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Exactly? Let's take a break and we'll get to the

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 3>actual crime. I mean, we'll have some side quests first,

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 3>but I do promise you a crime back in a flash.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Zaren Elizabeth, We're back.

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 3>One of my favorite Emperor Norton tales is about his dogs,

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Bummer and Lazarus.

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 3>So Bummer and Lazarus. They are these two straight dogs

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 3>who became beloved local celebrities in San Francisco during the

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 3>eighteen sixties. They were known for their absolutely remarkable rat

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 3>catching abilities. They had like street smarts, and they were

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 3>really bonded together, and they were pretty much like the

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 3>most famous dogs in the city's history. They were featured

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 3>in newspaper columns and cartoons, especially those by Samuel Clemens.

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 3>He wrote about him, Bummer was this like shaggy black

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Newfoundland or Newfoundland terrier mix who earned his name from

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>bumming food from butchers and saloon patrons. Oh they like

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 3>they you know, sitting at the bar and they're like,

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 3>have a pickle. Oh, they're so cute. It's a big old,

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>big old buddy. He became well known in the city

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 3>around eighteen sixty because he was like an amazing rat killer.

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Like they'd turn him loose into a building and then

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 3>like he'd kill fifty rats and kind out. Yeah, so

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>a rat problem. They had a huge were probably in

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 3>like basements of bars and restaurants and stuff. So Lazarus

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 3>was a smaller mixed breed dog. He entered the picture

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>when Bummer rescued him from a dogfight in eighteen sixty two.

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 3>So Lazarus was like badly wounded. Bummer nursed him back

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 3>to health, like in a doorway, hence the name, you know,

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 3>Lazarus who was raised from the dead. So the pair

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 3>they're inseparable. Newspapers like the Daily Morning Call.

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>How did Bummer nurture Lazarus? I mean are you talking like?

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like treated the wounds and then went out and

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 3>would bum food and bring it back and then cuddle

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 3>around Lazarus and just nursed him back cool. So like

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>the Daily Morning Call, the Daily Alta, California, they published

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 3>all these stories about the dogs, and they treated him

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 3>like characters in a serialized novel. And at the time

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 3>then street dogs were like often rounded up and euthanized.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Bummer and Lazarus got official immune due to their popularity

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 3>and how useful they were, and then it was extended

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 3>to other dogs later when Lazarus was once arrested by

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 3>a new dog catcher. There was this crazy public outcry

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 3>and they got released the exactly. So over the years,

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 3>stories emerged that Emperor Norton had adopted or was like

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 3>always accompanied by Bummer.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>And Lazarus to travel together.

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like he treated them as his imperial guard

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.919
<v Speaker 3>dogs or companions, and like in some illustrations at the time,

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 3>the three are shown walking together, with Bummer and Lazarus

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 3>flanking the emperor as he patrolled the streets.

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Imagine three of them.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing, like, there's no really like reliable contemporary

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 3>evidence that he actually owned or cared for them, Like

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>no one the city owned Bummer.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 2>And last put them together.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like you know, contemporary accounts about Bummer and

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Lazarus showed them as like more attached to the local

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 3>bar scene, but they crossed paths frequently, and they all

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.320
<v Speaker 3>were in the same central name around Portsmouth Square and Montgomery.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>So they were all characters in the area.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and so this idea of them as a

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 3>trio became like this popular legend, particularly after they died.

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 3>So people at the time did think, like, you know,

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 3>we see them together, but all these editorial cartoonists use

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 3>them as as symbols of a bygone era after they

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 3>were all gone. So, if you will indulge me, then

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I want to make this lore into cannon.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Canon.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 3>So I want to say that the Emperor had a

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.720
<v Speaker 3>connection to street dogs. Yeah, so that said, Saren, close

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 3>your eyes.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're going to do it.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do it too. I want you to

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 3>picture it. It's January twenty first, eighteen sixty seven. It's

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 3>a typical gray day in San Francisco, the city that

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 3>knows how it rained yesterday, but today is just heavily

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 3>overcast and drizzling. That place where fog is toying with

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 3>the idea of becoming rain. The sound of a fog

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 3>horn pushes through the low, gray, flannel sky. You're standing

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 3>on the corner of Montgomery and Washington in San Francisco.

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 3>More than one hundred years later there would be a giant,

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 3>pyramid capped skyscraper where you stand, taller than you could

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 3>ever imagine. It's impressive today though, built in eighteen fifty three.

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Where you stand is the largest commercial building west of

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the Mississippi, four stories and home to studios and apartments

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 3>for writers, including Mark Twain, Brett Hart and later Ambrose Bears,

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Robert Louis Stevenson, Jack London, George Sterling, Emma Goldman. Carriages

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 3>roll by, their horses, huffing and snorting as they stroll

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 3>toward Telegraph Hill. The footfall of passers by creek on

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 3>the boards of the elevated wooden sidewalk. Some as they

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 3>pass pat you on the head. See Zarin, You're a

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>stray dog named punk. Everybody knows and loves you. Bummer

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>and Lazarus under Who's rat catching Tutelid you trained passed

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 3>on a few years ago. You uphold their tradition of

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 3>vermin elimination, as well as companionship to the real leader

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 3>of this great city, Emperor Norton. You stand today right

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>next to him. He's a little worse for wear right now.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Is current uniformist really threadbare? He stinks and his hands

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 3>and face are dirty. They're smudged with ink. After an

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 3>all night proclamation writing session, you sense a disturbance in

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>the force. You look up and see a quote special

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 3>officer approaching. His heavy steps match the dull look behind

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 3>his eyes, armand barbier. You've had run ins with him

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 3>before you let out a low, soft growl. Special officers

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 3>aren't actual cops. They're auxiliary guys, basically goons hired by

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 3>the fat cats and the business owners to watch over

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 3>their stuff. Unlike the cops, he has no respect for

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 3>the likes of you. He derives great pleasure from kicking

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 3>a stray dog right in the ribs or stepping on

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 3>the tail of a wayward cat. Basically, he's the worst.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 3>He reaches the corner where you and the Emperor stand.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 3>He holds out his trunch in a thickly lacquered billy

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 3>club if ever there was one, and pokes it at

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 3>the Emperor, smashing his carnation. Two lone pale pink flower

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 3>petals detach and flutter to the ground, landing in the

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 3>grimy gutter. Move along, there, you bum Barbier, says, you.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Growl again. The rent a cop looks down at you

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 3>and makes an attempt to kick you in the shanks

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 3>with his blocky, muddy boot. You're too quick and screwed away,

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 3>leaping to the other side of the Emperor. You won't

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 3>abandon your friend in this moment. The Emperor clears his

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 3>throat and announces to you that he is nort In,

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 3>the first Emperor of these United States and Protector of Mexico.

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't appreciate being spoken to in such low terms, nor,

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 3>he says, will he tolerate such man handling and rough attention.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 3>You move along now, or I'll charge you with vagrancy,

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>you filthy hobo. Barbier grunts. The Emperor ignores the officer,

0:44:55.560 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 3>regally turning away from him with a raised chin. Look here, you,

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 3>the officer shouts, grabbing the Emperor by the elbow. A

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 3>carriage pulls to a stop, and the driver, a wells

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>fargo courier, looks down at the action. Everything all right here,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>he calls out, mind your own business, pal barks the officer.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 3>The courier pauses for a moment and then rolls on,

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>looking back a few times. As he makes his way

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>down the block. The foghorn sounds again. The officer begins

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 3>to pull the Emperor down the street, ready to shove

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>him down the block, when a crisp dollar bill falls

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 3>from his imperial pocket. The officer freezes. He reaches into

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 3>the Emperor's pockets and pulls out more bills, a good

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 3>wat of cash. He looks at the emperor with confusion

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 3>than irritation. Why you ain't no bum running around dressed

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 3>like a tattered clown and carrying all this cash. You

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.760
<v Speaker 3>must be crazy. We can't have your types on these streets.

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Mister I hereby arrest you on the charge of lunacy.

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 3>You're coming with me, And with that he begins to

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 3>drag the silent but dignified Emperor Norton down the block

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 3>toward the police. You look down the block and see

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 3>that the courier has stopped again and is watching the

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 3>scene from atop his buggy. You take off down the road,

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 3>letting out sharp barks as you race at full speed.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 3>When you reach the carriage, you leap into the shotgun seat.

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You stare at the courier and he nods at you.

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 3>Good boy. He says, let's go get help. We got

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 3>to save the emperor. So Zarin, the Emperor was taken

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 3>to the station, booked on a charge of lunacy really yeah,

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 3>and scheduled to be approved by a judge for transfer

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 3>to the state insane asylum in Stockton. Damn yeah. So

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 3>the press gets win to this though, and there is

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 3>absolute outrage, like people just lose it. The Bulletin wrote

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 3>a scathing editorial quote, in what can only be described

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<v Speaker 3>as the most dastardly of errors, Joshua A. Norton was

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 3>arrested today. He's being held on the ludicrous charge of lunacy,

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 3>known and loved by all true San Franciscans as Emperor Norton,

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 3>this kindly monarch of Montgomery Street, is less a lunatic

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 3>than those who have engineered these trumped up charges. As

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<v Speaker 3>they will learn, his Majesty's loyal subjects are fully apprized

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 3>of this outrage. Yeah, and then the Daily Alta chimes in, quote,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Norton was in his day a respectable merchant, and since

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 3>he has worn the Imperial purple, he has shed no blood,

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 3>robbed nobody, and despoiled the country of no one, which

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 3>is more than can be said of any of his

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:31.240
<v Speaker 3>fellows in that line. WHOA yeah, right. So the police chief,

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Patrick Crowley, he knew he was going to have a

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 3>riot on his hands if they shipped Emperor Norton off

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 3>to Stockton, So so he immediately releases Norton issues and apology.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 3>The Emperor, ever, the gentleman, announced in the papers an

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 3>imperial pardon for armand Barbier, that special officer who busted him.

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 3>He's a gentleman. And it was also from that day

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 3>forward that police officers saluted the Emperor when he passed

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 3>them on the street. We look bad the door, and

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 3>that extends to today's historical reenactor. So it was on

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the cool, dreary, rainy evening of Thursday, January eighth, eighteen eighty,

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 3>that the Emperor bid his city farewell. He was on

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 3>his way to attend a regular monthly debate of the

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Hastings Society at the Academy of Natural Sciences. He was

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 3>almost there, is just across the street, when he collapsed

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>on the sidewalk and died. He was sixty one years old.

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 3>So the next day, January ninth, the San Francisco Morning

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Call ran an obituary with the headline Imperial ashes quote

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 3>on the reeking pavement, in the darkness of a moonless night,

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 3>under the dripping rain, and surrounded by a hastily gathered

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 3>crowd of wandering strangers, Norton the First, by the grace

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 3>of God, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico,

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.399
<v Speaker 3>departed this life. Other sovereigns have died with no more

0:48:56.520 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 3>of kindly care. Other sovereigns have died as they have lived,

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 3>with all the pomp of earthly majesty, but death having

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 3>touched them. Norton the first rises up the exact peer

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:10.720
<v Speaker 3>of the haughtiest king or kaiser that ever wore a crown.

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Perhaps he will rise more than the peer of most

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 3>of them. He had a better claim to kindly consideration

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.800
<v Speaker 3>than that his lot. Quote forbade to wade through slaughter

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 3>to a throne and shut the gates of mercy on

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 3>mankind through his harmless proclamations can always be traced an

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 3>innate gentleness of heart, a desire to affect uses, and

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 3>a courtesy, the possession of which would materially improve the

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 3>powerful living princes whose names will naturally suggest themselves.

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.879
<v Speaker 2>I like the how respectful they were, and I got

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 2>to the essence of his value to the city and

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>to all of us in comparing him to the real.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Leaders, that he could be an example totally. So. The

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Chronicle published coverage of his funeral with the headline leis

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 3>more the king is dead. He died with six dogs

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 3>and no personal effects to his name. The members of

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 3>the Posh Pacific Club, they all chipped in to give

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 3>him this regal sending off. Ten thousand people attended the

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 3>funeral in wake Damn. The line to pay respects to

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 3>the coffin snaked out the door and down the street.

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>The cops had to come to manage the crowd, and

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 3>the crowd was a cross section of the city, right,

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 3>So there were the elites, the criminals, the clergy, the

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 3>banker's maids, clerics, ladies who lunch, all ages, all origins,

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 3>people of all ethnicities, all walks of.

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Life, all the true San Franciscos, true San.

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Francisco's, but also in the true San Francisco the majority

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 3>of the mourners were everyday workers. Yes, the people who

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 3>kept the city humming. They loved him and believed in him.

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 3>So five years after his death, Mark Twain published Adventures

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 3>of Huckleberry Finn. The character of the King is modeled

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 3>after Emperor Norton. The Emperor also appears at as the.

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 2>King in The Duke from Huckway Finn. Yes, totally.

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 3>The Emperor also appears as himself in Robert Lewis Stevenson's

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 3>novel The Wrecker. He's in there. In nineteen thirty four,

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco moved all the residents of its cemeteries except

0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 3>for the one of the Presidio to Colma of the

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.399
<v Speaker 3>city because they'd run out of room, and so the city,

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 3>the city's only seven miles by seven months trained. Yeah,

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:22.840
<v Speaker 3>and so in that great cemetery eviction, Emperor Norton's remains

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 3>were moved from the Masonic Cemetery to Woodlawn Cemetery in Colma,

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and they had like a whole reburial ceremony with full

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>civic and military honors and a new headstone. Yeah. And

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 3>there are those who visit the grave often, like as

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.959
<v Speaker 3>a pilgrimage. One of those groups friends of the show

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 3>you mentioned him earlier, the Ancient and Honorable Order of

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 3>e Calampus Vitis. They made an appearance in Our Drake's

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Plate episode Clampers. And so that is my ode to weirdness,

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 3>my elegy for the fringe, my celebration of the flyers

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 3>of the freak Flag. Thank you for indulging me. This

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 3>was a humphort episode for me, very nice comfort escapist episode. Saren,

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 3>what's your ridiculous takeaway?

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>A couple of things I learned even though we take

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the tour, I still learned stuff in this episode, So

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 2>thank you for doing research.

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 3>The tour is great because it's focused mostly on San

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Francisco history, but you're like, he tells it through the

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 3>eyes of the Emperor. It's I cannot recommend.

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I recommend it. You can find it online. Just look

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 2>up the Emperor Norton's Tour Walking Tour.

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so good, so good.

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Also, I did have one though, that I think is

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 2>interesting to the point you've made or the points you

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 2>made throughout, which is possibly, in my opinion, one of

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the greatest Americans ever lived is somebody who named himself Emperor.

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 3>And I like the I of that well, and he

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 3>encapsules I know you and I have talked to about

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 3>like what this notion of America or the United States is,

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 3>and that I always classify it as you'r the Walt

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Whitman version of it. The witmen esque version of America

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 3>is what I subscribe to. And like this vast possibility

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 3>and vast capabilities and potentials, vast community and very inclusive,

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 3>you know. And so that's what Norton locks into that

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 3>of like here he's got this whitman esque version of

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 3>our best selves and our most giving selves, and in

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:22.399
<v Speaker 3>taking a title. He's absolutely giving and shining a light.

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's obviously he knows he's not going to

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.800
<v Speaker 3>dissolve Congress. But when you make those kind of statements

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 3>that it shines a light for people. So and you know,

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 3>my god, you gotta have fun exactly know.

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 2>What I mean? Like, you gotta have fun in this life.

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 3>One chance at it. So anyway, I like it, Dave,

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I need to talk back. That's my takeaway.

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I want.

0:53:57.080 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 3>You knew do want about a school group because I've

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 3>heard of it and you need to do one.

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for this podcast. I love it.

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 2>It's our pleasure is That's what it's called. A skull

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 2>group or just find a group about skulls.

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Skulls all right, we's like skull and bones.

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna look up a skull group and start there.

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Let's do it. Okay, We're on it, dude. Uh that's

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