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Speaker 1: Hey, babes, it is La Lac Kent. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Give Them La Lac podcast. We are going into

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Speaker 1: a Banner Humbles vander bumb Rules Reunion Part two tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Jessica, you watched Reunion Part one.

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Speaker 2: I watched Reunion Part one at like five am, and

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Speaker 2: it just it was like my coffee for the day.

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Speaker 1: It was it. It put you on time.

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Speaker 2: So good? You just I mean I was like.

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Speaker 1: Was I giving you life?

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Speaker 2: You were giving me life? I kind of I said

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Speaker 2: I wasn't going to look at socials the night before,

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Speaker 2: but I did. Anyway, you're trending on Twitter. You've been

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Speaker 2: training like and I know why you were so good.

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Speaker 1: I was so good.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear all your thought.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I watched it, which they they send it

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Speaker 1: to us usually, I want to say like five days before,

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Speaker 1: so I had seen it, which the extended version that's unedited,

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Speaker 1: the one that we saw is on Peacock now, so

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Speaker 1: I have to watch that. And I think that they're

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Speaker 1: doing that with all three reunions amazing. So you'll see

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Speaker 1: it tonight and then tomorrow you'll be able to watch

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Speaker 1: like the un uncut un filtered. Yeah, we say that Ford,

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Speaker 1: but I overall I thought it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: It was so good. This is a hack for people

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Speaker 2: on the West coast Sling And it's not even like

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Speaker 2: Sling's a sponsor. But Laala would love you to be you.

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Speaker 2: If you get Sling, it's like an app or whatever

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Speaker 2: that you get.

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Speaker 1: Sling is great. I'm so happy you have that subscription

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Speaker 1: that you allow me to use.

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Speaker 2: You guys, you can watch this at six pm on

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Speaker 2: the West coast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the you get the East host feet

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Speaker 1: Because for me, when a show comes on at nine,

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Speaker 1: I'm tired. That means that it ends at ten and

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Speaker 1: then my mind's all discombobulated. I cannot slip it into

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Speaker 1: like a rem cycle after.

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Speaker 2: You sure can't.

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Speaker 1: No, but my biggest thing right now, so I go

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Speaker 1: through different shows when I decide to fall asleep right Like,

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Speaker 1: for a really long time, it was like only Friends,

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Speaker 1: then it was only Seinfeld. Now I'm falling asleep to

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Speaker 1: I started at season one of Real Housewives of New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: I'm on season four now. But I'm like it like

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Speaker 1: puts me to bed. That's not because it's boring. It

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Speaker 1: comforts me, right, there's something about other people doing what

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Speaker 1: I do that but it doesn't have to do with me.

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Speaker 1: That makes me feel at ease, like I'm not the

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Speaker 1: only one that's chosen to liket like this.

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Speaker 2: That's a good like. Yes, obviously you can have that viewpoint,

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Speaker 2: which many of us can't because you guys do the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Yes, yeah, you all do.

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Speaker 1: So I want to jump into this very quickly because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about. Okay, Vannerbump Rules, Part

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Speaker 1: one of the Reunion. I woke up. I went to

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Speaker 1: I was probably asleep by seven. I had to wake up,

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Speaker 1: and production kept saying, hey, we need you there at seven,

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Speaker 1: Hey actually eight, actually seven fifteen actually six thirty am.

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Speaker 1: I'm just making up shit. It was back and forth.

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Speaker 1: It was just back and forth, and I felt badly.

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Speaker 1: I did my own makeup, and I always do my

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Speaker 1: own glam, but for Bradley who does my hair, because

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Speaker 1: I kept changing it up on him. So finally I

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Speaker 1: was like, we're done here. I'm waking up at four thirty.

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Speaker 1: Have him come at the normal time. I get a

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Speaker 1: group text while Bradley is doing my hair in that text,

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Speaker 1: it's me Arianna. Sheina Katie James. Okay, We're going back

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Speaker 1: and forth talking about the rats and a text comes

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Speaker 1: through from Ariana saying, well, my hair girl just canceled

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Speaker 1: on me and she's sick. You know there's nothing you

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Speaker 1: can do when you're sick. Like, I totally understand, and

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Speaker 1: also like I don't want you doing my hair if

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Speaker 1: you are sick. But like the timing kind of sucks.

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Speaker 1: Thank god that the universe. Remember, everything's the universe, everything's science.

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Speaker 1: The two completely different things, right, how can you believe

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Speaker 1: in both? Well, I do you do the fact that

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Speaker 1: She was like, I don't have hair, so I sent

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Speaker 1: Bradley with my shorter extensions. No, she wanted to do

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Speaker 1: It is her moment. She is like a live her

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Speaker 2: I it was such a beautiful moment because the second

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Speaker 2: I saw that or the second you said that text

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Speaker 2: came in because I'm just sitting there on the couch

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Speaker 2: watching you get your hair done. You were solution mode.

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Speaker 2: What time is it, Bradley, can you go? Bradley was

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Speaker 2: all game. He's like, absolutely, I'm gonna be there. Here's

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Speaker 2: my hair. It was beautiful. You guys figured it out

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Speaker 2: and within minutes.

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Speaker 1: Figured it out. I think I almost would have allowed

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Speaker 2: Well, it looked amazing your makeup, And I know I

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Speaker 2: told you this on the morning of, but I saw

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Speaker 2: some tweets about it stunning exact, okay, your fucking attitude.

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Speaker 1: It did.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, We're not here to play around, cat. I I'm

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Speaker 2: coming at you with my claws. It was incredible.

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Speaker 1: I find that at the reunion you have to look

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Speaker 1: extremely classy because the second you owe in your mouth,

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Speaker 1: you become like a little rough So you better it

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Speaker 1: has to be a well balanced outbea right. You come

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Speaker 1: in looking like one hundred because your mouth is gonna

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Speaker 1: be bottom bottom feeding level right, but then with the

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Speaker 1: combination it evens out the scale. See great point. It's

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Speaker 1: a great point.

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Speaker 2: Everyone looked stunning. Everyone on your side plus Shena.

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Speaker 1: Like I said on last week's episode of this podcast,

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Speaker 2: And I want all your thoughts because I want your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on Schwartz because I was kind of disappointed and

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Speaker 2: were disappointed in him as a I thought, this is

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Speaker 2: your time, Schwartz, come in give us like you. This

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Speaker 2: is your time to make it right. This is your Yes,

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Speaker 2: this is your time to make it right. And what

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Speaker 2: did he do make it worse?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I I.

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Speaker 1: and I went with my publicist because I had called

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Speaker 1: her earlier that day. I was not gonna go. I

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Speaker 1: Everybody is collateral damage right now for this fucking mouth.

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Speaker 1: Can't do it, can't And there's gonna be press on

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Speaker 1: You're a strong motherfucker. You go to the dog gala,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have fun. I had the best time, but

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Speaker 2: Is said, no red correct, no question pictures only.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting at the table. Schwartz is at our table

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Speaker 1: and he's talking whatever. And even my publicist was like,

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a publicist.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what he said. He said, he doesn't have one.

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Speaker 1: Just to kind of coach him through. So the episode

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Speaker 1: And that was me?

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get so many people to disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: because that's what it was like. You don't get to

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Speaker 1: especially when we learned that he was basically victim shaming Ariana,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. Sticks and stones, betch,

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors. That's the narcissis's biggest fear. I don't

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Speaker 1: say the quickest way with the narcissist, you publicly fucking

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Speaker 1: blast them. I also learned in this reunion that I

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Speaker 2: Why was there a lot that's so funny? I don't

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Speaker 1: It's because I say it so much and it's got

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, I say it a lot to that because

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Speaker 1: I'm a horrible influence.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. But no, Yeah, the victim shaming

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Speaker 2: He tried the apology.

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Speaker 1: The tears didn't hit. They went away very quickly.

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Speaker 2: He went away very quickly. And instead of them going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: It was so iconic. I like how to rewind? It

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Speaker 1: She's in there the whole time.

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Speaker 1: And five years from now, I'm going to look back

433
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: at this stage in my life and say I would

434
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: have changed X, Y and Z. This is just the

435
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: way shit works. Or five years from now, I could

436
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: say I was in a way better spot back then.

437
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I need to get back shit. Who the fuck knows?

438
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: Sandoval loves to pull out the history books because it's

439
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: all he has. In my opinion, he is the only

440
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: he is one of the only people on the cast

441
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: who is the same person. And that's what I was

442
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: trying to say to him, is I still am recognizing

443
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: that you are a human being. When James comes back.

444
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tear your head off again, but for this moment,

445
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you know that we live in today.

446
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I've dealt with my shit every reunion it is talked about.

447
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: I could not acknowledge it any fucking more than I

448
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: already have. Okay, so right now, we ain't talking about

449
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: me and what I've done, because we've talked about it.

450
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: The horse been dead, let it rest. We're talking about you.

451
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: And the reason we're bringing up your past still is

452
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: because your past is very much present today. That's why

453
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: it's relevant. Yeah, you can't bring up my past if

454
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: the behavior does not match anymore, just like you can't

455
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: bring up the past with James hooking up with Kristen

456
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: when he's dealt with an engagement since then, the breakoff

457
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: of an engagement, a new girlfriend buying a home, moving

458
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: in with the new girlfriend into the home that he bought,

459
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: we hate there anymore. They cannot coexist unless we're talking

460
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: about behavior that is present that was in the past

461
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: as well.

462
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Deflect, deflect, deflect, It's just, I mean, what else is

463
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: instead of taking accountability? And that's a big sign of like,

464
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 2: oh well, yes, he is a narcissist, deflect, deflect, victim, blame.

465
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: All the things came out within the first few minutes.

466
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: The first part of that this episode was like pretty fire.

467
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: There was someone who asked on socials. Oh, by the way,

468
00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: shout out to Alex Cornwell z J because she said

469
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: my husband was like that babe has an Ada one tattoo.

470
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: She's from Utah and I love because so many people

471
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: come up to me and they're like, what is ada one?

472
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: And it's Salt Lakes Area code. Yes, ah, So I

473
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: love that that person like I do that. I love

474
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: that Ada one moment. So they were asking Maggie Underscore Hodges,

475
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: was sheena not that vocal or was it editing? She

476
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: seemed pretty mute and anxious. You have to remember we

477
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: usually have a block of time to process the season

478
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: before we step into a reunion. I was actually thinking

479
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: that they were going to push the reunion back because

480
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: before this happened, we already knew that what was it

481
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: March twenty third? It was the twenty third that we

482
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: were filming the reunion. We pick cameras back up, I

483
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: want to say March fourth or fifth. We film for

484
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: a week and some change and are still expected to

485
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: go into the reunion with really no time to process anything.

486
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: No, everything was still so everyone was still so heated.

487
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: Of course they still are to this day.

488
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: But I'm so heated.

489
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

490
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: And then you start getting people coming to you and saying,

491
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: I knew I have so many regrets. Here's text messages.

492
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: They had code names for each other. Raquel was Jamie.

493
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: And it's just like a different level of process understanding

494
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: for Arianna. In her mind, this was never real. I

495
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: made this up. In my mind, I'm having to sit

496
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: with the fact that it never existed. I'm mourning something

497
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: that didn't exist, and that's really a hard pill to swallow.

498
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: That's a mind fuck. I have been in that space.

499
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: So I want to say that Sena going into it

500
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: was affected in a very different way because she wasn't

501
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: completely in it. But these were two of her best friends,

502
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: three of her best friends that she was really defending,

503
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, And when you're kind of an outsider that's

504
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: defending a friend group and then you get played, it's

505
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: a whole different level of just how could I not

506
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: see this?

507
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: Of course, and it's the worst and I mean we saw,

508
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 2: you know, you saw her process it right after, not

509
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: only she losing a friend with Rachel, but she's probably humiliated. Yeah,

510
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: so Jill, it's either Jill so photos or Jill's oh photos.

511
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: Do you think Sandy and Schwartz's friendship is damaged after this,

512
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: after this reunion or after the airing? Because it's too no.

513
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I believe is going to happen.

514
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Schwartz has been right or die for Tom. Tom has

515
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: never been right or die for Schwartz. But I feel

516
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: that it's a level of comfortability on Schwartz's end. He

517
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: understands that this is the friendship, this is how it's

518
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: always been. He doesn't know any different. What's going to

519
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: start to happen after this, and maybe it's already started happening,

520
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: is the build up of resentment, and there's going to

521
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: be a breaking point for Schwartz where he loses his mind.

522
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: And I don't know what exactly has to happen for

523
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: him to understand that people like sand of all, people

524
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: like my ex people that he's attaching his cart too.

525
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: It's not good. You know, at some point you got

526
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: to pick right and what is right for you, and

527
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: he still continues to not do that. It's like, I

528
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: want you to take everybody else out of focus right now,

529
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: what is going to be best for you and your family.

530
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: And maybe he's not there yet, but it will happen.

531
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: It happens to everybody. When you're pushed so far, the

532
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: resentment builds up that you cannot repair.

533
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: Well. I have to ask on that note. A moment

534
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: in the reunion where they're talking about the snowboarding trip

535
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: and Schwartz is looking at Sandoval going come on like

536
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: as it. He's looking at him so intensely.

537
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: Like dude, back me up, back me up here.

538
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: And he didn't. Sandoval didn't back him up. And what

539
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: I think it was because let me just so I understand.

540
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: So Schwartz and Sandoval went on a snowboarding trip, and

541
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: it sounds like Raquel and Joe then met up with them.

542
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: There is that correct? Yeah, here's what I think happened.

543
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: And I want to know if you can speak on this.

544
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: I think Schwartz understood it as yeah, they were just

545
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: going snowboarding, and then Sandoval was like, dude, I'm gonna

546
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: invite Briquel and like then Joe could come and it

547
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: could be this thing and made me talk talked him

548
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: into it, and who knows if Schwartz was like, no,

549
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: let's not or was like okay, fine whatever, because he

550
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: kind of just like can be a pushover. And in

551
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: that reunion moment, I think maybe he was hoping Sandoval

552
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: to be like, no, no, no, hold on, I invited those girls.

553
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I think you're absolutely and that's it.

554
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: On that didn't happen.

555
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: No, Sandoval will throw everyone under the bus, his best friend,

556
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: his mama, his own future children. Yeah, just to save himself.

557
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: We watched it happen. He did not back him up, literally,

558
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: but he wanted Schwartz to back him up when he

559
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: was like January again, I mean August, no, no, and

560
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: it's like, that's when you told me right after the wedding.

561
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Oh we got a specific. Now, we got a specific

562
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: right after the wedding. And I loved her.

563
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: You guys were like, oh, did you not match your

564
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: timelines up?

565
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: You've been coaching the rat all day. You forgot to

566
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: coach this one. So true, so true.

567
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: Okay, did Katie ever express her feelings about your rekindled

568
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: friendship with Sina?

569
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: She expressed her feelings. I am not going to share

570
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: what the exchange was I understand Katie very well. We

571
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: are both very powerful with our words, and we use

572
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: very colorful language, and I love Katie and I understood

573
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: where she was coming from a place I think of hurt.

574
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: We dealt with it on the plane ride to watch

575
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: What Happens Live right when the season started airing.

576
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: When you guys were on together.

577
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So I'm going to protect what she said

578
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's necessary to even talk about. However,

579
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: when she said on the reunion, you know Laala the

580
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: same level of loyalty when you and Sheina weren't getting along,

581
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, you said, if anyone ever communicates with her,

582
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: they're dead to me. And I don't ever remember saying

583
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: anything like that. I definitely expressed my disdain for Shina

584
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: at the time because of what she had done on

585
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: her podcast. But I know for a fact that if

586
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: that's what I was saying behind the scenes when cameras

587
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: picked up, I would have said that on camera, like

588
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: if you fucking go do this, I'm done with you.

589
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't recall having some people choose, you know. Yeah,

590
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: I do know that I was in season nine saying

591
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: to Katie like I'm feeling like I'm on an island

592
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: and I want you to have my back, which is

593
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: similar to what she was asking me. And I always

594
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: had her back, just like Sheena said. Not once did

595
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: I ever make it like I was on the fence

596
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: or I understood Sheena's side more than Katie's. Nope, I

597
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: was black or white, like I don't fuck with you

598
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: on this.

599
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is I'm sorry I didn't read the

600
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: name of the last question, but if I can find it,

601
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: I will read it. This is Resa x Delaney. What

602
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: part do you wish they would have kept in that

603
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: didn't make it to part one?

604
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Honestly, because it was such a long day, I can't

605
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: remember the sequence of events. So I think maybe once

606
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: I watched all three parts, maybe I'll have some memories

607
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: come back. But again, I've said this before where I

608
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of blacked out during the reunion, not with rage,

609
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: like just with emotion. It was like such a troubling

610
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: experience to be a part of. And I feel like

611
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: in the darkness we did create some light, like worm

612
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: with a mustache. There were things where it was like

613
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: we're seeing the light at the end of the tunnel,

614
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: which is you know, being funny exactly with your insults.

615
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: When I first saw the reunion episode, there were things

616
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: that were cut out of it versus what we saw

617
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: on Bravo. However, it's because I saw the version that

618
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: airs on Peacock, which is uncensored God and extended version.

619
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. On that note, I am curious. I

620
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: would have assumed that producers and maybe Andy so they

621
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: know already know this is probably going to be a

622
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: multiple part reunion. You guys don't notice the cast coming in,

623
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: but they do. Did they try and atta to be like,

624
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about some other stuff first because

625
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: we know that the majority of the reunion's going to

626
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: be taken up by Sandaval and it didn't work, or

627
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: did they just go full on Andy was like questions

628
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: about scandival and all that, or did they try like no, we.

629
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Got a phone call. We got a phone call before

630
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: the reunion after this happened, from a producer that said,

631
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: we need your thoughts when we should bring out Obviously

632
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: we knew Sheen and Riquel couldn't be out there at

633
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: the same time, so that was never a discussion. But

634
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: do do we bring them out and not have them

635
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: to get Tom and Raquel together at all, Like, we

636
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: really do want your guys's thoughts, And I said, you know,

637
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm asking is that we also talk

638
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: about what else happened this season, because although a lot

639
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: of people have been affected by Scandival, you know, Katie

640
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: was deeply affected by a lot of these people who

641
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: who are now on her side, But at the end

642
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: of the day, like, just because you're cool with me now,

643
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: you don't get to get away with the past three

644
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: months of really fucking with my life. That was my

645
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: only ask. I was like, I don't care who's out

646
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: there at what time, I'm going to give them all

647
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah, like I know exactly, I know

648
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: what the drill is.

649
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: Do you feel satisfied with the amount of because it

650
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: seemed like they touched on little things like that, but

651
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: it really was always going back to Scandaval. In my opinion,

652
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: you know.

653
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: What's crazy is we all said the same thing though

654
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: the entire I know that Katie and I were very

655
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: much on the same page. It just was hard to

656
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: not bring it back to that because it was so

657
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: mind blowing.

658
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: Right, and then what's Sandval going to give his opinion

659
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: on Katie and Tom's may I.

660
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: Don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it.

661
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Yes, I do want to talk about two

662
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: things because I got questions about this. Number One, Tom

663
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Schwartz saying to Katie when during the discussion about their

664
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: relationship and him saying, you know, the worst time of

665
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: my life my dad almost dying, my brother being diagnosed

666
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: with cancer, and they panned to me and I am

667
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: making like a like a full breath, like closing up

668
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: the eyes, shaking my head thing. And I didn't want

669
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: anyone to think that I was like, not an excuse

670
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: when he was going through what you know, the timeline

671
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: of my dad, my brother. It was more of like

672
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: I can relate to having a dad with health issues,

673
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: and I really can't imagine having to deal with my

674
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: partner then wanting to divorce me during that time. However,

675
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: like I talked, I've talked to Katie about this. Had

676
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: the relationship been solid and he always picked her and

677
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: then this you know, situation with his family and the

678
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: health issues happened and he had to break away and

679
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: wasn't giving her as much time, I know she would

680
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: have been more understanding, but it was like, you've never

681
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: given me time ever. Yeah, I've always been on the

682
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: back burner, whether this had happened with your family or not.

683
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: So I just want to make that clear that I

684
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: wasn't shaking my head like excuses. It was really like,

685
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: holy shit, that is a lot for one person to

686
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: be dealing with the other thing. Sina talking about how

687
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: she was relating to Raquel because she's been bullied by Katie,

688
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: bullied by La La, and I said, this is we're

689
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: not teaching pre K and this is bravo. We all

690
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: signed up for this. And Sandoval says bullying doesn't have

691
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: in age range and I fully agree with that. The

692
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: reason why I said pre k and maybe that wasn't

693
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: the right job title was I was trying to say

694
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: the workplace. I'm not saying that what we go out

695
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: and do and things that I say or other people

696
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: say is okay on any level, right. I was trying

697
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: to show that this workplace that we are on we

698
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: have all come for each other. We all read that contract,

699
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: all right, we know what it says in there. It's

700
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: fucking intense. The language is very intense. We all looked

701
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: at it. We all had lawyers look at it. We

702
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: all signed it. I have been called a home wrecking whore,

703
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: a mistress. Raquel went as far as to call me

704
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: chicken shit, which is like, I literally haven't been called

705
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: a chicken since I was being bullied in elementary school.

706
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: So it wasn't about the age. I'm very well aware

707
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: that you can be bullied at any age. I'm bullied

708
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: by random strangers on Instagram who I've never fucking met

709
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: in my life, calling me a bully as they're bullying me. Yeah.

710
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: So I was trying to lay the groundwork of let's

711
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: remember where we are. Not everyone here has clean hands.

712
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: We have all thrown mud at each other. We know

713
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: the playing field. We're all dressed for the same game,

714
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: me and Katie and James Kennedy, just maybe a little

715
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: bit more intense while we're playing the same game as

716
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, if you've watched

717
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Freaking Atlanta, oh, I'd be in the

718
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: fetal position, like those bitches don't play.

719
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: I need to watch the.

720
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Should they say to each other. I'm like, whoa wild wild?

721
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: I need to watch that's I mean, yeah, no, that's

722
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: a great point. I a DM I did see come

723
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: in earlier, and I have one here that says you're

724
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: from scorch blithe blithe your thoughts on Rachel smile and

725
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: smug face behind the scenes, completely unfazed. But but on

726
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: that note, and I don't want to forget it because

727
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: you mentioned Shehena, there was a DM that came into

728
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: the podcast. Sorry, I just saw it come in and

729
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: I've lost it now. But they asked was Sheena's feelings?

730
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: Were Sheena's feelings hurt by you saying we've gotten closer

731
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: from the babies because the person dming was like, I

732
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: would assume that would maybe hurt her feelings because base

733
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: it's basically saying, well, I'm friends with you now because

734
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: the kids, not necessarily because I wanted to be closer

735
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: with you.

736
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Sena as a person, no that and she was not

737
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: offended because she knew exactly how I meant it. When

738
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: we were on the outs and we had that moment

739
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: season nine where I said are we going to be friends?

740
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: What was on the forefront of our mind saying this

741
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: friendship is worth it was I have a little girl,

742
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: and I like you, and I want our kids to

743
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: be friends like so even though the kids were the

744
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: driving force, I kick it with Shina with her, without

745
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: the kids, I kick it with Shena and her mom

746
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: and my mom. We go do things just me, Sheena

747
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 1: and Brock and I'm a third wheel. Like I wasn't

748
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: saying without the kid, we wouldn't be friends, but really,

749
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: without the kid, we may not be friends.

750
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: Because it gave you that moment to be like, are

751
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: we going to move forward?

752
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: Right? But that's not to say like that's the only reason.

753
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: But they were the driving force between make or break? Yeah?

754
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense?

755
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: No, that makes all the sense.

756
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, because if I could stand her, I don't

757
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: give a fuck if you got a kid or not,

758
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around you. There's plenty of fears.

759
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: There's plenty of kai people with kids. And by the way,

760
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: like it's in a stand up, I can't remember who

761
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: does it? Oh, Jerry Seinfeld. Kids bond if they like

762
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: like the same ice cream? Yeah right, they're like, you're small,

763
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm small best friends? Yes, yes, exactly, I could find

764
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: someone to hang out with ocean anywhere, right.

765
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So your thoughts on Rachel smile and smug face

766
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: behind the scenes completely unfazed. That was scorch blythee.

767
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: What I was shocked by is when Schwartz was saying

768
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: the kiss was liberating and she smiles, It's like, you're

769
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: so weird.

770
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: There was not a tear, so we know that. So

771
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: even if it was edited where yeah, maybe an extra

772
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: eye roll where she didn't do it, but.

773
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect to see tears from her. By the way,

774
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it away, but I'm going to say,

775
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: don'y expect.

776
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: It, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

777
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: And when she like people thought that this reunion was

778
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: intense and we were on one hundred, just wait until

779
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: Raquel steps into the building. Oh my god, we are

780
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: like vicious dogs.

781
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how it can get better.

782
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not even kidding.

783
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: I give her credit for even stepping into the building.

784
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have the ovaries to

785
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: do that. There you go, very intense situation. Yeah, so

786
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: do I.

787
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know why I don't feel that

788
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: way about Sandoval. Maybe it's because Raquel it was newer

789
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: and is the newest, right, So I'm like, I guess

790
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: she probably could have just been like I'm not going

791
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: to go. I don't know if she could have been

792
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: like that, but she I feel like, if she wanted to,

793
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: she could have been like, found a reason for her

794
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: team to be like she's not going period. But then

795
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm also like, but then she wants the screen time,

796
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: so I'm like, I don't.

797
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Know how Well, that's what's really hard. And this is

798
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: where I won't even pretend like I'm well versed enough

799
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: to know this difference is obviously Sandoval would show up

800
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: key cast member, also a narcissist, pretty unfhazed about all

801
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: of this, to be honest, like he may feel a

802
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: little done in the domes, but it's like not it

803
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: didn't shake his world to the point of no return. Raquel,

804
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm not happy with her team, the fact that she

805
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: came to the reunion, and however many days, weeks, months later,

806
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: she's in a mental health facility. That tells me she

807
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: should have taken that moment to really protect herself and isolate.

808
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Do not expose yourself to the public. I understand this

809
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: is a show, but at the end of the day,

810
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: when it's between this and your wellbeing, that literally we

811
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: have to protect at all costs. Because that is what

812
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: moves you further in life or puts you in your grave.

813
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: We have to protect that.

814
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and health above all for sure.

815
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: And I don't think that she was in any place

816
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: to face because you have to remember, facing us is

817
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: one thing. When it's air worldwide, it's a whole different set,

818
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: and they don't let up. I mean I haven't really

819
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: let up, but I've been i mean compared to what

820
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: some of these people say, I'm like, you should be

821
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: on reality to you, like, you're way more vicious than

822
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: that I ever could be. Yeah, Rocky Barnett said, do

823
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: you think James deserved more airtime to share his perspective?

824
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: He was hurt too. The lack of compassion and rallying

825
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: around of James Kennedy is pretty insane to me. I

826
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: think he's gotten lost in all of this, and it's

827
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: because he's kind of like me. You know, we have

828
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: intense mouths, and it's like we're looked at as the

829
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: people that deserve it. Yeah, this is your karma or

830
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Not to say that people haven't

831
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: rallied because I've seen a lot of love for James

832
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: because he's hysterical. But it's coming across as they love

833
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: his mouth and what he says rather than his best friend,

834
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: which was mind blowing. No, that's what you called me.

835
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: It's like you're insane. Yeah. And by the way, Sandoval

836
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: did pay for half of that engagement because he wanted

837
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: eyes on him. It wasn't about him, that's how he

838
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: made it about him. That wasn't out of the goodness

839
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: of his own heart. Come on, fuck off. But like

840
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: that was his best friend and this was his fiance.

841
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: They were gonna like get married, you guys, Yeah, get married,

842
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: have kids. Raquel was gonna make her parents' grandparents. Same

843
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: with James Kennedy, And it was kind of looked at

844
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: as like not a big deal. And maybe it's because

845
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: he moved on really soon, but I mean, let's not

846
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: forget Arianna met her guy ten days after this happened,

847
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: so both moved on very quickly. And I think James

848
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: it was like three.

849
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: Weeks after they broke off the engagement.

850
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: He had a new girlfriend. I think around three weeks later. Yeah,

851
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Marianna had a new guy ten days later. They both

852
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: moved on very very quickly. And for James not to

853
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: get the same amount of like oh oh, my gosh,

854
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: you were done dirty. And maybe it's because they weren't

855
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: still maybe they were still engaged in this happened, it

856
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: would be very different. But it's just funny how the

857
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: outside world looks at certain people and they I read

858
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: the La Times article. They did a spotlight piece on

859
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: me and they asked a professor. I believe it was

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Speaker 1: at Columbia and they asked. The writers asked, which I

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Speaker 1: wasn't aware of this. I read the piece when everyone

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Speaker 1: else did. Why Arianna got this level of support when

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Speaker 1: La Law was looked at and it was if you

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Speaker 1: make a comparison way more intense, why it wasn't given

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Speaker 1: the same amount of like, wow, okay, we have a

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Speaker 1: level of respect here. And this woman, I think her

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Speaker 1: name was Raquel Gates said, you have to be a

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Speaker 1: perfect victim for people to sympathize with you. Being a

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Speaker 1: perfect victim is very very hard. I mean, we've watched

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Speaker 1: it in some of these trials where men have forced

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Speaker 1: themselves on women and they go through and they say,

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Speaker 1: but was it not true that you held his hand

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Speaker 1: one time? Yeah? Was it not true that you sent

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Speaker 1: him a text that said I miss you. It's like,

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Speaker 1: unless you are a perfect victim. You don't get sympathy.

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Speaker 1: That don't work for me. So I want to give

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Speaker 1: James another shout out because he's been through the Ringer too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Difference is he's like me, we shake shit off, fuck

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Speaker 1: everyone but us.

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Speaker 2: Right, But yes, but the support, I get it, supporting

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Speaker 2: him being like you're so funny, Hell yeah, James, but

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Speaker 2: also his heart, like he his heart was broken and

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying, Raquela, I'm not saying, but he was

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Speaker 2: in a situation and you can tell with the tears,

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Speaker 2: and he's been vulnerable this season and just like speaking

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Speaker 2: his truth and yeah.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter because all of everything he's said

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Speaker 1: in the past. Run a montage from the time he

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Speaker 1: entered vander Pump Rules to where he is now, that

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Speaker 1: one moment, everything out, everything else outweighs that same with me.

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Speaker 1: I have a moment a breakdown, and everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: cut to the clip where I was ripping someone's head off.

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Speaker 1: You look at Arianna and she has been very sweet

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Speaker 1: and reserved the entire time, and due to Sandoval being

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Speaker 1: obnoxious and a narcissist and overbearing and just pure torture

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Speaker 1: as an outsider, looking in Arianna became background noise. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that is not an insult. That's when you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with a Tom Sandoval and that's your partner. You have

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Speaker 1: no control over becoming background noise because they are so

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00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: much that you almost just retreat. You're like, I can't deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, I so relate.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that's I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like tired keeping the robe on all day. Yes, everyone

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Speaker 1: get away from me. So there is that. Proud of

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Speaker 1: my entire cast. Everyone freaking killed it. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys enjoy part two of tonight and again, I believe

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Speaker 1: tomorrow is going to be the unedited and a longer

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Speaker 1: episode of the reunion, So enjoy. I love you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode. I will catch you

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday.