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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it is the Queen Extreme fran Scene and

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Speaker 1: you are listening to Eyes up Here with Francine on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio network or wherever you get your podcasts. As always,

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Speaker 1: I am joined by my co host Chad. And Chad

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Speaker 1: we got carried away on this Tuesday episode that we

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Speaker 1: had we had to take it to Earth Day. I

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Speaker 1: thought we were going to be able to cover this

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Speaker 1: in about forty minutes, when we were not, and there

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Speaker 1: was so much that we had left to cover, so

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Speaker 1: we decided to make it a two parter. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how you doing.

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Speaker 2: You are right, I'm doing great now. This is like

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Speaker 2: it was getting so like intense and you hit the

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Speaker 2: part where I was like, you know what, this is

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Speaker 2: where we have to start the next part of the

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Speaker 2: conversation because when Brett Hart puts that little nu I'll

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Speaker 2: get out there about Owen Hart's death, it's like that

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Speaker 2: to be is like for them to have that out

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Speaker 2: in the world, that's a huge thing to say. So

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Speaker 2: that's where we'll pick it up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So before we start, for anyone just tuning in,

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Speaker 1: if you have not listened to Tuesday's episode, I suggest

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Speaker 1: you go back and listen to that one first, and

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Speaker 1: then come back over here because we are talking about

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Speaker 1: the mister McMahon documentary that aired on Netflix, and we're

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Speaker 1: a little late to the party, I admit, but I

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Speaker 1: watched everything and we're giving our thoughts. So we did

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Speaker 1: one through four, and then in the middle of four

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Speaker 1: we had to stop because we had talked so long

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Speaker 1: we had to make it a two parter. So now

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Speaker 1: we're continuing episode four about Brett Hart. Episode four was

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Speaker 1: the Attitude Error, and Brett Hart made a very bold statement,

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Speaker 1: as I said in the last episode, he says, is

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Speaker 1: it because I left WWF that my brother, you know,

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Speaker 1: did they basically rig it to that Owen Heart would die?

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Speaker 1: He's insinuating that the cause of death was by WWF

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Speaker 1: because he walked out, and which I thought was ridiculous. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like is that revenge for me? On? Come on? Like, no,

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Speaker 1: not at all. And when he said that, I was flabbergasted.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do you really believe that they would

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Speaker 1: put a hit on someone just to get back at you? Terrible?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did in the moment at least, yeah, at

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Speaker 2: least in that emotional like a couple of I mean,

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Speaker 2: could look in ninety nine, So we're a year and

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Speaker 2: a half for so removed from November ninety seven. He

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Speaker 2: was still at odds with Vince and the WWF, and

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Speaker 2: it was not pretty and they were still slinging mud

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Speaker 2: left and right. I mean, he had said some you know,

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Speaker 2: nasty stuff about Earl Hebner that was out there on

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Speaker 2: the sheets, you know, and they were just it was

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Speaker 2: not an easy time to be Brett Hart against the WWF.

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Speaker 2: So for him to feel that way at the time,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure was very you know, justified. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: i mean, throwing it out there, you know, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to hear the scrutiny. It's it's awful to hear

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Speaker 2: all that stuff back, and to watch all that stuff

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Speaker 2: back and see the clips of the guys and what

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Speaker 2: see that people had to live through all that live well.

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Speaker 1: Here, yeah, here's here's the thing. And this is another

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Speaker 1: reason why I don't like Vince McMahon. At times, they

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Speaker 1: go over Owen Hart dying that evening on the pay

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Speaker 1: per view, right, tragic, tragic thing that happens live. You

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Speaker 1: tend to think of these guys and girls as your family.

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Speaker 1: I refer to ECW as my family. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: my extended family. These are my brothers. Right. How do

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Speaker 1: you think that they felt to learn that one of

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Speaker 1: their not only co workers, but brothers, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: just passed away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How do you do that to somebody? And then they

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Speaker 1: go to Vince McMahon, Well, I'm a businessman, The show

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Speaker 1: must go on? Are you kidding me? I am sorry.

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Speaker 1: I think every person in that arena would have understood

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Speaker 1: that they would have to call the show because Owen

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Speaker 1: Hart just passed away. Yeah, how heartless that that? That?

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Speaker 1: Now that was the flip side of Vince Tommy enduring

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Speaker 1: an episode one I want to punch in an episode four.

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Speaker 1: My stomach turned like hearing him. I never heard him

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Speaker 1: say those words the show must go on? What if

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Speaker 1: God forbid Stephanire Shane was harnessed and they fell, would

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Speaker 2: What Bret Hart says, Yeah, when Shane McMahon gets dropped

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Speaker 1: Was your child or something happened to Linda? Would the

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Speaker 1: are a heartless bastard. To me, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they worked. When they showed the promo from Jeff, oh

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Speaker 2: Here you go. First of all, First off, Owen Hart,

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Speaker 2: I'm praying for you, buddy. Next line, Valvenus, you've been

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Speaker 2: chasing these puppies around, I mean behind him.

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Speaker 1: I understand they had to do what they had to do.

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Speaker 1: Their heart wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Into this, no all.

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Speaker 1: And anybody you could tell they showed, you know, multiple

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Speaker 1: performers in their face. How do you expect somebody to

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Speaker 1: perform that way? I didn't see this pay per view,

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Speaker 1: But was the rest of the show any good? I

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Speaker 2: Imaginable, horrible? And you're a blood stained in the ring

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Speaker 2: the whole time?

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Speaker 1: That was now if you Blue Meanie went on a

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Speaker 1: tirade about this and said that wasn't Owen's blood.

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Speaker 2: That was there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And and if you're interested, go over and listen

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Speaker 1: to his podcast because he or I think it's I

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Speaker 1: don't even know that. I think it's the one he

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Speaker 1: does with Conrad. But he made it a point to

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Speaker 1: say that wasn't Owen's blood, but that doesn't change the

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Speaker 1: fact that it was despicable that they still went on

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Speaker 2: It's not a good show. It's not a good show.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't expect it.

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Speaker 3: To be a good show because somebody just died. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's disgusting, really really disgusting that. That is one of

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Speaker 3: the lowest things I think that ever happened in wrestling.

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Speaker 3: To go forbid something like that happens, and then to

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Speaker 3: keep working and making these people work. You get in

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Speaker 3: that ring, you look to your left or you're right,

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Speaker 3: and you know that Owen was just there prior and

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Speaker 1: That's despicable. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Comments from Martha Hart.

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Speaker 1: Recent comments, Yeah, you want to read it.

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Speaker 2: With the documentary. He fails to mention is that the

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Speaker 2: equipment used was never meant for a repelling stunt. Instead,

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Speaker 2: movie shoots was used with a sailboat clip meant to

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Speaker 2: release onload with only six pounds of pressure. Had the

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Speaker 2: WWE hired qualified riggers who followed proper protocol that includes

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Speaker 2: redundancy at its typical practice and use it correct equipment.

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Speaker 2: Owen would not have died that night.

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Speaker 1: Your god, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I continue to hold the WWE and it's then management

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Speaker 2: responsible for Owen's death. I refuse to let vincick Man

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Speaker 2: or anyone else rewrite that history.

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Speaker 1: Well she's allowed. You know, it's just a sad story

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Speaker 1: all around, and it just it could have been prevented. Again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't they did they do test runs? Did

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Speaker 2: You'd have to watch that dark stand? I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: I think they did. I mean they always tested that

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Speaker 2: They always tested that crap out. But whatever it was,

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Speaker 2: it just did not unclip.

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Speaker 1: Oh makes my stomach sick. It was just so sad

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Speaker 1: to see his body lifeless in the ring, and then

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Speaker 1: they showed the boys just trying to get through the night.

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Speaker 1: My god. You know, you would think he would have

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Speaker 1: a little more remorse for somebody who died under his watch.

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Speaker 1: And that's all I'm going to say about that.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Lawler. Jerry Lawler coming back to the announced booth

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Speaker 2: white as a ghost and then as it looks, it

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Speaker 2: does not look good. Yeah, I mean that is just

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Speaker 2: a clip that lives in infamy.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we will go to episode five. Do you

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Speaker 2: What else can you say?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's go to episode five. Episode five was

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Speaker 1: about his family. You get Paul Hayman talking about Vince's childhood. Again,

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Speaker 1: he does allude to the fact that he might have

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Speaker 1: been abused by his mother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's been said before.

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Speaker 1: Many different ways, not just physical, right, which again makes

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Speaker 1: you think if he's suffering sexual abuse, you know, just

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Speaker 1: You know, I just I'm not justifying it again, but

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, There's there's a there's a

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Speaker 1: I never knew of the upbringing that he had. But

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Speaker 1: to allude that your mother might have done despicable things

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Speaker 1: That's a heavy load to carry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that story has been out there for a

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Speaker 2: while too, that there's that that kind of abuse was

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, that could be a lot of

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, here here we go. They talk about Triple H

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Speaker 1: and Stephanie getting together, and she says she doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to her that she said no. But then we go

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Speaker 1: to Vince and Vince goes, oh, is that the one

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Speaker 1: that I said I impregnated at my daughter? And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Like is it again? Is this where

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Speaker 1: it's stemming from sexual abuse as a child? And then

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Speaker 1: you think this is an appropriate thing to put on television? Gross?

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Speaker 1: Katie Vicangle, Gross, Like what do they think? What are

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Speaker 1: her foot down and say, no, Dad, that's pretty inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not doing that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I can't they showed, I believe was it the one

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Speaker 2: clip of Stephanie the long shot where they pick up

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Speaker 2: her hanging over the desk, you know, and it's like

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Speaker 2: the shot coming up of her from behind or something,

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Speaker 2: and she's showing how they sexualized her over the years,

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Speaker 2: you know, and.

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Speaker 1: She yeah, they might have. I don't remember that one.

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Speaker 1: They showed a lot of like Trish Stratus because she

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Speaker 1: Segment Stacy Keebler with her legs open and Vince's head

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Speaker 1: out with Candice, Michelle, Vince making out with everybody, Sable, Sable.

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Speaker 2: Right, But we watch movies where they do things. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like you know, people, he's done so

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Speaker 2: He got made to look like the asshole at the end.

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Speaker 1: So it's like he's weird sometimes with his storyline. So

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Speaker 1: You know, what can I say? But they talk about

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Speaker 2: Remember you remember to read a Chatterton and that it

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't remember about Sable, which.

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Speaker 2: Something, Chadster, here's a lot of things he doesn't say allegedly.

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Speaker 1: See, this is the partnership that should not be because

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Speaker 2: Oh man, as there stuff I can't say. I was

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Speaker 1: Tell me that on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember you don't remember all that rollout of

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, So I recorded. I still have it

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Speaker 2: on tape. I transferred to DVD the first pregame show

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's so bad. If you're a football fan,

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Speaker 2: Oh so bad, throwing a ball.

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Speaker 1: It was for football players who could not make it anywhere, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, And then they talk about Vince declining to buy

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Speaker 1: always was, always is always will be. I should have

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Speaker 2: You have a Shane O mac jersey. I do.

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Speaker 1: My husband bought it for me.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, look at you, Shane O mack.

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Speaker 1: You I think it's I think it's the one from

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Speaker 2: On the back of it.

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Speaker 1: But it's the cool one that buttons down the front

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Speaker 2: Coming, It's coming. It's definitely coming very soon.

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Speaker 1: I'm chomping at the bit to see him there. The

436
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: last episode was titled The Finish and it basically covers

437
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: the last ten years and Vince leaving. The first thing

438
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: that they show or clips from WrestleMania twenty three, and

439
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: they showed Donald Trump. They show a lot of Donald Trump,

440
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, whether you like him

441
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: or not, he was pretty damn good in the world

442
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: of professional wrestling. He was much deserving of his Hall

443
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: of Fame spot. Don't you think that.

444
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: Was a great angle. We've got a lot of eyeballs.

445
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: Him and Vince had a great chemistry. He threw a

446
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: mean slap to Vince Yeah, and can't take a stunner.

447
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: But no, but he got to shave his head, which

448
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: was cool.

449
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: He got shave Vince's head. But he every time he

450
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: and he Hey bought Monday Night Raw later on, he

451
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: was he was always good. Did they show the clip

452
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: of him and the Boogeyman?

453
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so they showed they They showed a

454
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: lot of like the bald It was, yeah, like Vince was.

455
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: Vince was in front of a picture of Donald Trump

456
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: balled and then Trump was in front of a picture

457
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: of Vince ball Ye the face off, and then they

458
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: actually showed a little bit of the match, and then

459
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: they showed him shaven.

460
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: Right, there's a there's a segment that maybe it's a

461
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: wrestlemate before perhaps, but there's a segment that Donald Trump

462
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: does with the Boogeyman, you know, when a Boogeyman does

463
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: like the creepy pop up from somewhere. Yeah, the comedic

464
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: timing is out of this world because Trump does like

465
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: one of those like looks at him. You know, Boogeyman

466
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: has to like scurry away because he does like you know,

467
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: it's just I'll send.

468
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: It to you.

469
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 2: It's very funny.

470
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so after they show this, they show

471
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: the storyline about Vince wanting to die and when he

472
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: gets in the limo and they blow the limo up right,

473
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: and then it's like okay. They show like a visual

474
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: and a candlelight thing with Vince's picture and deceased two

475
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: thousand and seven or whatever it said on it. But

476
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: then that had the halt because Benoir, the stuff with

477
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: Chris Benoa happens, and at first they do a tribute

478
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: show because they didn't know the details of what happened.

479
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: But then as the story breaks, turns out we all

480
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: know the tragedy, you know, Vin, excuse me, Chris, Nancy

481
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: and their son died, and the story is told that

482
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: it was Chris taking everybody's life and then taking his own,

483
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: which is horrible, absolutely horrible. So you know, Vince didn't

484
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: want to go that route with you know, killing himself,

485
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: so they had to backtrack do something different.

486
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I was at the show where they played the Vince

487
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 2: graphic uh following the explosion, and it was such poor taste.

488
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: While the the it was all unfolding, it was I mean,

489
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: everybody hated it at the time. Nobody liked the storyline.

490
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: Nobody liked the angle. The biggest thing to come out

491
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: of it was that Paul London got a ton of

492
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: heat for smiling during the somber Yeah, the very somber

493
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: walk Vince had to the limo and Paul London big

494
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: grin on his face. But I remember it just like

495
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: people were booing the you know, the graphic when it

496
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: popped up. It just it was such a stupid angle

497
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: at the time, Yeah, made no because you know he

498
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: was going to come back, you know, like it was.

499
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: It was.

500
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: It was one of those things where were starting to

501
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: get like ridiculous what they were doing with mister McMahon,

502
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: because it's like, what else could you do with him?

503
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: He's already like lost a company ten million times, He's

504
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: fought every babyface as the evil owner of the company.

505
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: Now he's dead, and now he didn't come back. So

506
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: it's like when all the Benwa stuff happened on the Monday,

507
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god, well they got to scrap that.

508
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And he goes on to say like how

509
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: people were calling to make sure he was alive, Like

510
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: Donald Trump called and said, is Vince okay? Are you okay?

511
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: And like some of the boys were like, did Vince die?

512
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Is he okay? And it's like, dude, if you don't know,

513
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: that's work okay with Trump. But everybody else like, do

514
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: you think they would show his demise on television?

515
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's.

516
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's corny, it's hokey.

517
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: Right, and that's the kind of stuff like I just

518
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: shake my head when I hear this.

519
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I hear you. Well, they had Brian Gertchwitz, Brett, Steve,

520
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: everybody was sharing thoughts about, you know, Chris ben wom

521
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: what happened and this gets into this was really interesting interesting.

522
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Chris Newinsky comes on, and you know, he's been an

523
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: advocate for CTE for like the longest time and has

524
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: been doing research for years, and he was one of

525
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: the first people that said that Ben Wall had CTE.

526
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: And this shocked me. When Steve Austin said he doesn't

527
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: believe in it, Yeah, I was shocked to hear that

528
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: because I think it's a real thing. Undertaker was saying

529
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: he was mad that you know, he's old school. He's

530
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: mad that the chair shots to the head were taken away,

531
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: but he does understand why because of you know, it

532
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: affecting people's brains and you take one too many chair shots.

533
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: That's not good so for but for Steve Austin to

534
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: say he doesn't believe in it that, I just was left.

535
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm founded with that one.

536
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: I was a shocker.

537
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was kind of a weird. I mean,

538
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: you believe what you want to believe, but I don't know.

539
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: And they show the clip. They show the Owen pile

540
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: driver that analyzed him broke his neck and uh, you

541
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: know when he said, oh, I was dumped on my

542
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: head once and that was you know, they showed the clip.

543
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: I would shudder to think that Steve Austin has had

544
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: many a concussion over his career, and you know, maybe

545
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: he's lucky enough to not suffer some of the effects

546
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: that some of the other guys do. Unfortunately, but it's

547
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: kind of well documented. Especially let's take wrestling out of

548
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: the equation. Okay, wam, it's gone. The NFL players that

549
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: are suffering now and who have passed away and have

550
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: documented CET A brain scan it is. I was shocked

551
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: by his comments that he was not believing in CT

552
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: and man effacts. Very surprised.

553
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I just was like, oh, come on,

554
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: like I usually agree with Steve on a lot of things,

555
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: but this one, I was just like bro wrong. CT

556
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: is a real thing. I remember. I remember before Shannon

557
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: pissed away Daphne, she told me, she said, I told

558
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: my father, I'm donating my brain. Yeah, she swore she

559
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: had CT. She swore she had it. I am not

560
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: sure if they ever went through with it, but I

561
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: remember her telling me over and over again, I have CT.

562
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I know I have CT, and I'm just like sad.

563
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: It's incredibly sad. I spoke with the guy who played

564
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL last week and he was telling me,

565
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: you know, I asked, how do you feel? And he said, well,

566
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: outside of how many times I was hitting the head

567
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: during my career, I feel great. And he noticeably, and

568
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: I've worked with this guy in about two years, he

569
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: was noticeably slower in every respect that I had for

570
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: a question just in general, how are you or is

571
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: this date okay?

572
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: And uh?

573
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: And working with him two years ago, maybe even a

574
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: year and a half just and his response was, outside

575
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: of all the hits I took thirty years ago, I'm fine.

576
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: So that doesn't tell you that there's there's long term effects.

577
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: Super shocked by stone cold Steve.

578
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Austin, Yeah, that's pretty sad. Phil much Nick was in

579
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: this a lot. You don't like him?

580
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: Eight his guns wrote, I wrote my senior my my

581
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: senior year in high school, like dissertation on how much

582
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: I disliked Phil much Nick.

583
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, in watching him on this doc, I I

584
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of admire him for taking the initiative to tell

585
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: it like it is and to pull no punches as

586
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: a reporter. He just talks about the quality of life

587
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: changes he's seen in wrestlers over the years. And you

588
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: know it's true. The older we get, we're decaying faster

589
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: than the normal human being. It's trauma. But I don't

590
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: care how many people say, well, you go to wrestling school,

591
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: you learn how to take a bump. I don't care

592
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: if you learn how to take a bump. Taking a

593
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: bump is not normal. It is trauma on your body.

594
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: You just fall one time in regular life, and you

595
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: can screw up your whole skeletal system with one fall. Okay,

596
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: imagine doing it for a living and bumping night after

597
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: night after night after night. Some night you might fall

598
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: flat on your back. Some night you might hit your head.

599
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes you might land on your shoulder, or your hip wrong,

600
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: or your tailbone. Your body will never be the same again.

601
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: So compared to like a normal person, we're aging quicker

603
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: and our bodies are rapidly destroying themselves. It's just inevitable.

604
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get better. My neck is never gonna

605
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: get better. My back is never going to get better.

606
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't do half the stuff that the pro

607
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: wrestlers who wrestled every single lean and took multiple bumps in.

608
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: I took maybe two three bumps a night for seven

609
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: years in a row, which is bad. You know, that's

610
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: not good. But when you're doing a match and bumping

611
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: twenty thirty times a night, that takes another level of

612
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: a toll on your body. Right, So you know, I

613
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: agree with Phil. Your way of life is not going

614
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: to be good when you're sixty, seventy eighty years old.

615
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: It's just it's proven. Look at most of these guys walking,

616
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: they can't even walk.

617
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's very true. Absolutely, Is that fair to say?

618
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: I think that's a.

619
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: Fairy fair fair to say. Yeah.

620
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: So, you know, Phil Phill's on the money, and you

621
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: can't argue that fact. And I think every you know,

622
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: some wrestlers are luckier than others, but some are mostly

623
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: dependent on pain pills, which is sad, you know, because

624
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: that's when you see them. They're they're falling asleep at

625
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: their tables when they're supposed to sign and stuff, and

626
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, people pin them. Oh you're a

627
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: drug addict, right, Well, why did I start to take

628
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: these drugs? Because my body is killing me and I

629
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: can't cope with the pain exactly, So how are you

630
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: supposed to live? You think a tile on all is

631
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: going to do it? No, it's not so if you

632
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: you don't walk these guys' shoes, you can't answer that question.

633
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: So you hear from Phil who you hate.

634
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

635
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: Then we talk about the Undertaker and he talks belt

636
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: his his winning streak, ending that he didn't know I know,

637
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: they make it a thing.

638
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: They didn't need to be on their like this is

639
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: where it was stupid, you know, and all those things

640
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: they threw in.

641
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it wasn't stupid because he had a concussion.

642
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Okay, you know that all right? That part, yes, it

643
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: ties in.

644
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: He had a concussion and he still went I think

645
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: he said like twenty twenty five minutes afterwards, and he

646
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: doesn't remember any of it.

647
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that parts the concussion.

648
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: But then Vince says, well, he was traumatized by losing

649
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: the belt, that's why he didn't remember, Not because he

650
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: had a concussion. Vince tried to say he was so

651
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: upset because he had to drop the strap, that's why

652
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: he didn't remember the match, but Taker saying, no, I

653
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: hit my head. I had a concussion, and that's why

654
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: I don't remember any of the match. So they're talking

655
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: about CTE concussions. So yeah, it did happen.

656
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm confused with another part.

657
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Then okay, but you know hearing Vince saying he was

658
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: too traumatized to remember, too traumatized by the loot, the

659
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: winning street coming to an end by losing. Are you

660
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: serious You can't admit that the guy had a concussion?

661
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: Does he think Taker was lying to him? Wasn't there

662
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: medical in the back telling him, yeah, you're concussed, you

663
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: have a concussion.

664
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Speaker 2: If anybody was as loyal as Soldier to him, it

665
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: would be him. So the Undertaker, I think you listen

666
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: to what he was saying.

667
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: For sure. God. So then they they say how they

668
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: have to go to PG programming. Now they talk about

669
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: the Women's Revolution for like a minute, and then they

670
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: showcase Shane McMahon coming back to WWE after several years

671
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: of being away and he gets to work with the

672
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Undertaker at WrestleMania thirty two. Then Taker says he would

673
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: take a bullet for Vince, and it is very clear

674
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: that this was filmed. They keep saying this was filmed

675
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: before the Janelle Grand incident. So it's like, okay, you

676
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: would take a bullet for him? Would you take a

677
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: bullet for him? Now? Is anybody's opinion different now than

678
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: it was when you sat down and did this interview?

679
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: I mean I listened to a lot of clips that

680
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: are out there from Undertaker's podcast, and I don't hear

681
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: him speak any differently.

682
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: So he okay, so he's remaining a loyal soldier. But

683
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 1: there how about everybody else?

684
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'd venture to think that. I mean John Cena,

685
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, in the very.

686
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: Business, John Cena's back kind of you know, doing his

687
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: retirement thing.

688
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: So you've seen it publicly said, you know, he felt

689
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: for Vince McMahon and what he was going through, and

690
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: that you know, he's he's there for his friends when

691
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: they need him and blah blah blah blah blah.

692
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: So why would he say any different? Like I just said,

693
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: he's back with the company doing his whole retirement thing.

694
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: He's still when do you think that's with me? And

695
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: the first thing you think of is WWE. Even though

696
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: he's not physically a part of that you know company anymore,

697
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: he's still going to be a name associated to them.

698
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: So I don't think anybody that is involved with WWE

699
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: is going to talk about him negatively. I think fear

700
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: wise or anybody who thinks they can get a Legends deal,

701
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: or who think they can get something from the company,

702
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think the people who

703
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: are vocal just don't give a shit and are telling

704
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: it like it is because they don't care. They have

705
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. There's no dog in the game, right.

706
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: If you have something to gain from it, then you

707
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: have to watch your p's and q's because you still

708
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: have a big man there kind of sort of through

709
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: Triple H. You know, Stephanie pop Up. Is she going

710
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: to come back at some point? We don't know. No

711
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: one knows. So I feel like if you work for

712
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: that company, you have to dance around the subject and

713
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: that's why not a lot of people are going to

714
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: talk about it. But it's just funny because all of

715
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: these you know, these interviews were done before the news

716
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: came out, so you have to keep that in mind.

717
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Vince was asked if he would retire, he said no.

718
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: Everybody else said they'd never see Vince retiring. What does

719
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: it go to him retiring in twenty twenty two only

720
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: to come back in twenty twenty three. And then they

721
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: interviewed Bruce Pritchard and he feels like they look back

722
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: on the whole doc and Bruce says, this is it's

723
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: a hip piece, just to make Vince look bad. And

724
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: then he goes into what Vince did for his wife

725
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: when his wife was sick, And I get that. I

726
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: get that Vince was good to him. I understand it.

727
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: He has a different relationship with Vince than a lot

728
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: of people do, so I can understand the loyalty. But

729
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: there's got to be part of you, even if you

730
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: don't want to say it publicly. There's got to be

731
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: a part that says this behavior is not right. But

732
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: can he say that publicly? Again, No, he cannot, even

733
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: though he might think it. He can't say it. I mean,

734
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: don't you even think McMahon questions what he did? You know,

735
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: do people who commit crimes show remorse afterwards and realize

736
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: what I did was wrong? Some do and some do.

737
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: Do you think Vince McMahon has a conscience. Do you

738
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: think the power or hungary maniac who ran that company

739
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: has a remorse about how he treated some of the employees,

740
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: some of the boys, some of the staff. I don't know.

741
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that person, but I

742
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: get where Pritchard's coming from because he has that different relationship.

743
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: So after they talked to Bruce, they say two days

744
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: after that the interview was filmed, all the details of

745
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: Janelle Grant's lawsuit become public, and then they talk about

746
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: Vincent's legacy in the business. This was again in twenty

747
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty twenty two, So you would come

748
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: to think what they answer different now? Is his legacy

749
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: tarnished because of everything that popped up, all that we know? Now?

750
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: Does that take away from what he did for the business.

751
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: My answer is no, it doesn't. I separate the two.

752
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I can, just like with ben Law, I see a

753
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: brilliant performer in Chris and Law. Few could do it

754
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: better than him in the ring. As a person, it

755
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: was terrible what he did. And again, was it a

756
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: sickness due to CTE Will never know. We'll never know,

757
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: But poor Nancy and poor Daniel. My heart breaks for

758
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: those two. You know, it's like, just do it to yourself.

759
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Don't hurt anybody else. You want to be gone, Just

760
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: just do it to yourself. You know they're innocent, innocent

761
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: little boy. But I can separate that and look at

762
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: his performance. Doesn't mean I have to like the person.

763
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: And this is the same with Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon

764
00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: was a brilliant booker, a brilliant businessman. You know. He

765
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: came from dirt, poor nothing and made a multi billion

766
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: dollar company and carried it on his back. His character

767
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: was one of the best heels I've ever seen in

768
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: my life, and I loved to hate him. But as

769
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: a person, the more I find out, the more sick

770
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: I become. But I separate the two right, because that's

771
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: the only way you can. It doesn't because he's a

772
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: shitty person doesn't make his performance shitty. No, he was

773
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: brilliant before we found out he did all this stuff.

774
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: Why would you take the brilliant away from him? You can't.

775
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: You can't take away talent like that. So for me,

776
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: like I separate the two. But then you know, they

777
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: the episode just goes into Vince being on to investigation.

778
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: It talks about brock Lesnar being involved and that Janelle

779
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Grant's lawsuit is on hold while federal investigation is still ongoing,

780
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: and that's how it ended. So I would have loved

781
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: for them to incorporate her. I get why she wasn't

782
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: on it. I understand all that, you know, she can't

783
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: talk about it or whatever, but I would have loved

784
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: more like maybe another part and they covered the lawsuit

785
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: and they covered what was in the paperwork, and you know,

786
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: because that stuff was just wow. I read her and

787
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: it was like wausers, you know what I mean. Interesting.

788
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: But overall for me not wanting to watch it, I

789
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: will say I did enjoy it. I did. I'm glad

790
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: I watched it. I was happy I watched it. For

791
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: all those who keep saying I'm not going to watch

792
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: it because it's things I already know, there might be

793
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: things you don't know or quote notes that you weren't

794
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: privy to prior, so I would definitely recommend it if

795
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: you're a wrestling fan, if you're a WWE fan, if

796
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: you're a Vincementman fan. I am happy I watched it.

797
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: I will admit the only reason why I did watch

798
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: it is to do this this podcast and do a

799
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: recap because everybody was asking me. But I'm glad I did.

800
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: And it was entertaining, and again, parts were endearing and

801
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: parts were I want to punch you in the face,

802
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: you know.

803
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: So I love seeing the footage. I loved that backstage

804
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: footage that they showed that you I'd never seen before.

805
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: To me, I'm right where you are. It doesn't separate,

806
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: or it doesn't change. I separate the two, you know.

807
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: When I want to watch any kind of wrestling, I

808
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: put on old school, I put on stuff that I like.

809
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: I you know, it's still new to me, even though

810
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: I might have seen it a hundred million times. I

811
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: love it, and most of the time it's got Vince

812
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: McMahon's signature on it. So I can't do anything about that.

813
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: I can't change that. He created the world that made

814
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 2: me interested in the wrestling business. It made me Vince

815
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: McMahon's world made me interested in wrestling. Vince McMahon and

816
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: his world made me discover ECW and then WCW and

817
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: the nWo and everything else, and even every character I've

818
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: ever seen on TV is because I started watching what

819
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: he created. I can't separate that. I can't separate that,

820
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: and I can like what he did and not like

821
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: what he's done in his personal life, so I can separate.

822
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: He's not a great person, but he's the PT Barnum

823
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: of the pro wrestling world.

824
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, And I think, you know, you need to

825
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 4: look at it with an open mind, because if you don't,

826
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: it's like you're never you don't meet your heroes kind

827
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: of thing.

828
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: You're never gonna be able to separated, and then you

829
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: can't enjoy things anymore. You know, half of Hollywood are

830
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: dirt bags. Right. If I knew the legacy and the

831
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: person behind every motion picture, I wouldn't want to watch it.

832
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about Ditty and all the stuff

833
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: that's going on with him, and you know, am I

834
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: not gonna listen to so and So's music because they

835
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: were at a ditty party. No, I'm still gonna listen

836
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: to whoever I like, but as a person, you know, sketchy, right,

837
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: same with Hollywood. You know, like there's certain people in

838
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood that were on that list. Does that make them

839
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: a bad actor? Hell no, But as a person, whatever

840
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: they're doing, it makes me question their integrity. But it

841
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: still doesn't mean that, you know, they're all of a

842
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: sudden they're a shitty actor. Ah, they're still a good actor.

843
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: It's just that they're a shitty person. But I learned

844
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: how to separate the two a long time ago. Yeah,

845
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Again, just my two cents. You

846
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: don't have to take my word as gold. You decide

847
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: what you want to decide to do. But overall, out

848
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: of five stars, i'd give this doc a solid four

849
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: because I did enjoy it. I just feel like they

850
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: could have included a little more, a little more with

851
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: Today's case I would have liked to see, but otherwise

852
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 1: interesting stuff.

853
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the whole thing, so inconclusive for me,

854
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: But what I saw I enjoyed, and everything that was

855
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: on there. You know, I've already heard before, so it's

856
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: just a elaborate retelling.

857
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: It's okay, But.

858
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: Liked what I saw, A good production value. You know.

859
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: And for those somebody said to me, I can't remember

860
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: if it was my brother. If you read me a

861
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 2: quote from somebody said, you gotta remember remember everybody who's

862
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: watching Netflix is about two percent of the actual wrestling fans.

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Speaker 2: So these are people discovering this for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Well, then they're really going to enjoy it because

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Speaker 1: our review. Do you agree with me? Do you disagree

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Speaker 1: If you're listening on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: You have anything to plug. I have a couple of

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Speaker 2: Oka Instagram. I be exclusives. Wrestle Caid coming up at

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Speaker 2: the Big Vampire. Working on some cool stuff, some cool

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Speaker 2: photo ops possibly some Mordecai props coming, so working on that.

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Speaker 2: I'll have more on my social media in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 1: All right, November is a very busy month for the Queen.

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Speaker 1: I have Rhode Island Comic Con November one, second and third.

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Speaker 1: I'll be signing along with the Dudley Boys, and I

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Speaker 1: think Ginger Mahaal will be with us as well. I think,

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Speaker 1: so come on out if you're in the Rhode Island area,

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Speaker 1: please come and see me. And then on November ninth,

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Speaker 1: I will be at the Big Event in uh where's

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Speaker 1: that at Long Island?

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Speaker 2: Big Event Long Island, yep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Suffolk Suffolk Credit Union Arena in Brentwood, New York.

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Speaker 1: For more information, you could go to the Big Event

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Speaker 1: New York dot com and get your tickets there. And

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Speaker 1: that's on November ninth again, I think it's from like

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Speaker 1: ten to three or something. And then the Big One Wrestlcaide.

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Speaker 1: This is November twenty ninth to December first. I'll be

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Speaker 1: there that Friday and Saturday in Winston Salem, North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Shane Douglas and I'll be kissing babies, signing anything you

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Speaker 1: bring us, and drinking cocktails. So come on out and

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Speaker 1: see us then, and across the born old social media

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Speaker 1: hope you're staying safe. I hope you were staying healthy,

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Speaker 1: and most of all, I hope you're staying extreme. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: H Francine Francis Francis, Queen Extreme Extreme, ties up here,

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Speaker 1: head head, The Queen Extreme.

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Speaker 2: Podcast ties up here.

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Speaker 1: Hey head, it's the Queen Extreme Podcast. It's the Queen

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Speaker 1: of Extreme.

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Speaker 2: Bruni.

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Speaker 1: In the letter she is the Woman of the dreams

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Speaker 1: lettond on the scene Francis