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Speaker 1: there the past two years. That's the most two year

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Speaker 1: win total, highest two year win total they've had it

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Speaker 1: Purdue since ninety seven and ninety eight. So I know

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Speaker 1: it's not quite University of Georgia standards, but they're over

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Speaker 1: under win totals five and a half that have to

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Speaker 1: surprise a lot of people. They're plus ninety five hundred

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Speaker 1: to win the Big Ten championship. Don't need them to

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Speaker 1: do that, just need them to make the thing. You

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Speaker 1: would have a contract extension on Ryan Walter's desk by

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Speaker 1: the end of this sentence if I were to be

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Speaker 1: talking in December and this happens. Lastly, Joe said, what

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Speaker 1: if for the first time all three playoff games are

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Speaker 1: decided by one possession, Well, ridiculous conclusions would be made. Joe.

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Speaker 1: Now this almost happened last year. We had close semi

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Speaker 1: final games. We had TCU Michigan come down to the wire.

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Speaker 1: Should I tell the story about Urban Meyer. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: the story about Urban Meyer, I'll tell it in the second. Okay,

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Speaker 1: first off, let me get through the what if. So

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Speaker 1: we had Michigan TCU come down to the wire. Then

446
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Speaker 1: we had Georgia Ohio State. I mean, your boys standing

447
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: right here underneath the upright and there goes the ball

448
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: over there. Georgia wins. But then the national championship game

449
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: was a total splattering, just a Sarah McLaughlin special if

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Speaker 1: there ever has been. So we didn't quite get it,

451
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Speaker 1: but we almost got it. If it were to happen

452
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Speaker 1: this year, you would have a bunch of people drawing

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Speaker 1: definitive conclusions about the right struck sure of the playoff

454
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Speaker 1: because of this. In this case, anecdotally, I would probably

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Speaker 1: agree with them. But one little sample size of a

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Speaker 1: season doesn't prove much of anything. I think though. Producer

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Speaker 1: Jesse said this earlier today, and I agree with him.

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Speaker 1: Folks like me would probably come on the show and say,

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoyed it, because it

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Speaker 1: is expanded playoff season now from this point on, unless

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Speaker 1: some people just decide to forego money, we got ourselves

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Speaker 1: an expanded playoff and that'll be that. Now for the

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer story, So we're at the semi final game

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. We're at Ohio State Georgia. It was the

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Speaker 1: night game. So we're on the field pregame and it's

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Speaker 1: Mercedes been Stadium in Atlanta. So the TCU Michigan game

467
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Speaker 1: is playing on that giant ribbon board above the field,

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Speaker 1: and so I wish I could have filmed it, but

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Speaker 1: it would have been unprofessional. Mark Pantoni is standing on

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Speaker 1: the sideline about twenty yards behind him. I'm standing there,

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Speaker 1: and urban Meyer standing there. We're watching the game. I

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00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: think Brian McFadden was standing there as well. So we're

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Speaker 1: watching the game, and I have never ever seen a

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Speaker 1: football coach, even though urban Meyer wasn't technically in football

475
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: at this moment, I've never seen a guy so emotionally

476
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: invested in an outcome. I've never seen someone pull against

477
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Speaker 1: Michigan as hard as I was watching urban Meyer pull

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Speaker 1: against him. And this is no secret because if you

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Speaker 1: were in the stands behind him, you saw this happening.

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Speaker 1: And man, when TCU clinched that thing, urban Meyer, man,

481
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: he was jack that day. He was jacked. And I

482
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: was just looking at him. I was saying, you care,

483
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: you care a whole lot, don't you. That guy's still

484
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of Ohio State in him. I've got

485
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Speaker 1: a lot of Academy Sports and Outdoors in me, and

486
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Speaker 1: I'm not too ashamed to admit it either, because Academy

487
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Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors is for people like me who live

488
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Speaker 1: a minimalist lifestyle and you only need a few things

489
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: to make yourself happy. They're my one stop shop in life.

490
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: Most of you, let's be real, you probably need to

491
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Speaker 1: go to Academy for like eighty percent of your needs.

492
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: And then you know, you can go to Alta, you

493
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: can go to a Toyota dealership. Some of you like

494
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Speaker 1: to drive trucks and whatnot, but it largely Academy's got

495
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Speaker 1: what you need. And they got big league chew in

496
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Speaker 1: the checkout line too, So if you don't think they've

497
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: got everything, that's proof they've got everything. My most favorite thing,

498
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: which will probably start aggregating again, is when you send

499
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Speaker 1: me your receipts and show me when you were in

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Speaker 1: a bind. One of you needed football cleats the other

501
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Speaker 1: day and you went to shall we say, a competitor

502
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Speaker 1: and they were going to overcharge you. They didn't have

503
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: the exact selection you wanted. And I don't know why

504
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: you did this, but you chose to make Academy a

505
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Speaker 1: last resort. They don't care there they are, You're just

506
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Speaker 1: spiraling towards Earth, about to be street pizza. And there's

507
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Speaker 1: the Academy safety net. They may actually carry safety nets

508
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: over there. And not only did you get your cleats,

509
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Speaker 1: not only did you get the color combo you needed

510
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Speaker 1: in the size you needed because you had a wide

511
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Speaker 1: foot A lot of information being spilled here just to

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Speaker 1: say you also got it cheaper at Academy. Now if

513
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: you can't get there in person. Academy Sports and Outdoors

514
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: also is on the world wide web academy dot com

515
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: for all your outdoor sporting goods needs and then some Uh,

516
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 1: this is a paper stacker segment. That's something in my eye.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. I promise you and you can

518
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Speaker 1: tie me on this. I'm keeping this pretty brief, but

519
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: I did have something to share with you after a

520
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Speaker 1: sit from the chalice. Let me get this statement here.

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00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: So I know a lot of you aren't thrilled with

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Speaker 1: where we are in college football right now. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. We are on the same

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Speaker 1: page on that front. I think that maybe it's a

525
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Speaker 1: little more short term than the finality that currently exists

526
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Speaker 1: in the fog that this sport is lost in. And

527
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: it was way way too complex a sentence. All I'm

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00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: saying is all the realignment right now, and it looks

529
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Speaker 1: like so many brands and teams are falling off a cliff,

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Speaker 1: and it may be that in the short term. I

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00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's forever. However, anybody who's watched Late Kick

532
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: for a long time knows that we and by we

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00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean me and part of the audience, We've had

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00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: a spirited back and forth on what's best for college football,

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00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: and that really just comes down to preference and opinion.

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00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: So we do agree on one front, and that is

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00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: regardless of what we think is best for college football.

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00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: We all know the tale as old as time, and

539
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: that tale as old as time is you build something

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Speaker 1: good and you keep it a secret for a little while,

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Speaker 1: and a smaller group of people get to enjoy it,

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00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: and then it gets popular because the secret gets out,

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00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: and then it gets commoditized and commercialized, and then it

544
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: loses its soul eventually because the wrong people find their

545
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: way in charge of it. That is the story of

546
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: college football present moment, and some brands and some things

547
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: recover and some never do. I think college football will

548
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: be the latter, not the former, or the former, not

549
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Speaker 1: the ladder. I never really got that free. I get it,

550
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: I just never use it the right way. But be

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00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: that as it may, I think it's pretty obvious to

552
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: where we are right now. So whether you've whether you've

553
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: been a pro realignment or anti realignment person, whether you've

554
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: been a pro playoff expansion or anti expansion person, you're

555
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: not watching this show if you don't love this sport.

556
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: So I know we got common ground, even if we

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Speaker 1: disagree on some stuff. Well, one of my core beliefs

558
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: in my resistance to things like playoff expansion has never been,

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Speaker 1: oh I don't care about more football. Oh I don't

560
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: care about home playoff games in the atmosphere. Oh I

561
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: don't care about giving other people's shots. It's never been

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Speaker 1: that I don't mind all that stuff. I mean, I

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00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: think it does something to the regular season, but it's

564
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: never been about that. That's like way way down in

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Speaker 1: the weeds. My resistance has always been zoomed much further out.

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Speaker 1: My resistance has always been way up at thirty thousand

567
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Speaker 1: feet in knowing the kind of people that were pushing

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Speaker 1: the sport that direction, and knowing that it did not

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Speaker 1: solely entail that one thing. College football. Playoff expansion was

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00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: tied at the hip with several other very very very

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Speaker 1: very less than desirable moves they wanted to make with

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Speaker 1: a sport. You're seeing them right now. Same people responsible

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00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: for what you're seeing right now are the folks that

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Speaker 1: tried to convince you that playoff expansion was best for

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Speaker 1: the sport, and they fed you the talking points and

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00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: some people bought it. I want you to listen to this.

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Speaker 1: So Stuart mandel Over at The Athletic does a mailbag

578
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: feature and he had a question and then this is

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Speaker 1: behind a paywall. So I'm going to show you this

580
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: because Chris Vnini tweeted it out. So I'm gonna show

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Speaker 1: you this. I would encourage you to go read the

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Speaker 1: rest of the article. It's a little lengthy, so bear

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Speaker 1: with me. So an anonymous person submits this question quote,

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Speaker 1: do media companies understand what makes fans love college football?

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00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: This isn't the NFL where you move a team to

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Speaker 1: another market and the fans remain Oregon State fans will

587
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: never be Oregon fans, FSU and Miami fans will never

588
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: root for Floor etc. The passion in college football that

589
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: comes from the rivalries, pageantry and traditions is very real.

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00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: If you tear the soul out. NFL Sundays are right there.

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00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: That is a beautifully constructed but also horrific in the

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Speaker 1: reality of its sentence in question or statement, I guess

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Speaker 1: it was. Here's Mandel's response. He is so spot on

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Speaker 1: with this. Listen to his response. He said, when I

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Speaker 1: picture the type of fan the TV executives are thinking

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Speaker 1: about when they make these big deals, it's not an

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Speaker 1: Oregon State dad and his son who go to Research

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Speaker 1: Stadium together on Saturdays then come home and watch the

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00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: PAC twelve late game. They're picturing a New York Giants

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Speaker 1: fan in Queens who can't name a single current college

601
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: player and could give two craps about Oregon State. But

602
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: if they see Ohio State playing USC on a Saturday,

603
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: they'll drop what they're doing for an hour and watch it.

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00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: And there are millions more Giants fans in Queens or

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00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Pats fans in Southee than there are Oregon State or

606
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: Washington State fans in the entire United States. Depressing but true,

607
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: end scene, because that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what

608
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: has happened to your sport, to our sport. Those are

609
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: the people currently in charge, Those are the people currently

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00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: with the power. May not be that way forever. I

611
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: still contend to you, and I ultimately hold the trump

612
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: card in that it's the eyeballs that we have in

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00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: our heads and the viewership habits that we have through

614
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: our remote control or whatever device you choose to watch

615
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: your content on that will win the day. But it

616
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen overnight. And so that right there, for

617
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: a long time, was believed to be an attitude that

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00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: would never be allowed to permeate our ranks. Well it has.

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Speaker 1: You really do have people who could not care less

620
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: about tradition. Look, you think of college football, you think

621
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: of saturdays with your friends, You think of your childhood.

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00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: In many cases, you think of history, tradition, You think

623
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Speaker 1: of cultures and subcultures for that matter, You think of community.

624
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: They just think of property. That's all they think about.

625
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: That's all they see it as. They don't know this stuff.

626
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: You cut them open, you really get inside them. They

627
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: don't know a thing about this sport. They know media markets,

628
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: they know shares, they know revenue streams, and that's what

629
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: college football is to them. So when you go back

630
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: to things like the college football playoff for so long

631
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: and this is just one little microcosm of a large

632
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: issue for so long, the argument was it was so

633
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: in the weeds. It was how many autobid spots should

634
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: we have, or well, how many more games will have

635
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: meaning in the regular season, or will the games lose

636
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: meaning in the regular season. These people couldn't care less.

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00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: They couldn't care less about your attitude about that, Colin.

638
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Can you believe that now he's calling us? Col Kubleik

639
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: is calling us because I ghost him on the text message,

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00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: Hey Bud, we're live, So I got to call you back. Okay,

641
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to do it to him. So anyway,

642
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I the other night said, I don't know if this

643
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: is quite as final as we think it is. What

644
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: I meant by that is there's a lot of talk.

645
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: It will not bear itself out overnight. I told you

646
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: that at the time. I'm still telling you that there's

647
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot of talk though that some of the aggression

648
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: in media rights dollars that are being handed out, and

649
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: therefore some of the aggression in moving and conference realignment

650
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: to grab those media rights dollars or to be on

651
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: one of the one of the very few large figurative

652
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: life rafts out there SEC Big ten, Big twelve that

653
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: may not be forever. You got folks like Chip Kelly

654
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: making really good points out there. He said, why haven't

655
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: we just detached football from the rest of college athletics

656
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: and just put about sixty to seventy teams in here,

657
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: split them up geographically, and let the college football playoff

658
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: as an entity run things. Now, Look, that's not my

659
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: desirable spot, but in lieu of where we're going right now,

660
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: i'd much prefer that. Also. Now I'll tell you I'll

661
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: talk to you about that later because it's still kind

662
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: off the record, But there's a lot of things being

663
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: said behind the scenes that basically sound like this. Hey,

664
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: I know it looks like this is being done in finality.

665
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: Now we could just revert right back in ten years,

666
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: not in ten months, but in ten years, because there

667
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of people looking at the dollars and

668
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the way they're allocated in the college space right now,

669
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: in the media market space, media rights space. They don't

670
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: think it'll be that way forever, rapidly changing landscape. And also,

671
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: as I talk to you about before, and as I'm

672
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: going to tell you again, there are third parties out there,

673
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: everything from private equity to Saudi Arabia, who are observing

674
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: this with very very keen eyes, and they understand when

675
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: you have undervalued assets. And they also understand what benefit

676
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: injecting themselves into college football and capital into college football

677
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: could have in college athletics in general. That's very convoluted.

678
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: I know it is. I'm not going to finish the

679
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: rabbit hole tonight because quite frankly, I have things to

680
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: do and we only want this to be an hour show.

681
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, don't lose hope just because maybe

682
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: you're seeing a conference fall off into the Pacific right now.

683
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: May not be that way forever, but some folks have

684
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: to either be removed from the driver's seat or have

685
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: to have their seat belt jerked a little bit, and

686
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: then understand that people are watching them. Good, We're done

687
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: with that. Woo. So what have you been doing with

688
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: your free time? Hopefully watching the show or watching replays

689
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: of the show, and I thank you so much. If

690
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: you're watching live, I specially appreciate it. I would just

691
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: ask that you like the video while you're here. That's

692
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: the thumbs up button. For those unfamiliar, I watched the

693
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Johnny Menzel documentary on Netflix. I would strongly encourage you

694
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: to do the same. Now, what I'm not gonna do

695
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: is spoil it for you. I think you pretty well

696
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: know the story of Johnny Manziel. There is some stuff

697
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: in there that you would not otherwise have known. I'm

698
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna start with the positives. Okay, easily the first and

699
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from the Menzel documentary is Billy Lucie looks immaculate.

700
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: The Tech SAG studio looks immaculate. I have been gaining

701
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: clout all over Nashville all week by reminding people that

702
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: we did late kick in the studio that is prominently

703
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: featured in this Manzel documentary. So good for us and

704
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: good for Billy Lucci. I was texting with him last

705
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: night while I was watching it, and I asked him

706
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: when did you film all this? He said about a

707
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: year ago. I think it was between week one and

708
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: week two a year ago. So some of the positives

709
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: I took away and I strongly encourage you guys to

710
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: watch this. It's unfiltered, for better or for worse. I

711
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: don't really care if I like someone or don't like someone.

712
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't really care if I approve of or don't

713
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: approve of your attitude on life. Just be authentic with me.

714
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: At least I want to know the real you. Well,

715
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: there is no doubt that you get the real Joy

716
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: Manzel here. You may not get the entire depth of

717
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: the story because it's only a little over an hour.

718
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: You would need you would need a ten part docu

719
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: series of hour long episodes to really tell the Johnny

720
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: Manzel story. I think they do a good job of

721
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: skimming the surface of it, but they don't really dive

722
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: too far deep into any one particular issue or topic.

723
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: But I got I just got so wrapped up in

724
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: remembering what the pre nil world was like. And Christy Dash,

725
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: who does great work, I would encourage you to follow

726
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: her on Twitter. She put out this factoid and they

727
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: talk about it in the documentary. We're in the Nil

728
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: world now, So if you're like ten years old, twelve

729
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: years old, you've pretty much only known a world where

730
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: players can make money, and ten years from now we

731
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: will be further immersed in a world where it's just

732
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: commonplace for high profile star college athletes to be millionaires.

733
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: What in the case ten years ago when Johnny Manziel

734
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: was in college station, a bunch of folks were making millions,

735
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: not the players. And I have never been a person

736
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: who believes that the average college player's value is quite

737
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: what they think it is. But there are certain players,

738
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton, those are three

739
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: of them whose value is millions of dollars while they're

740
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: in college. They should be millionaires. That would be their

741
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: true market value. I want you to listen to this.

742
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: This is wild to the point where it sounds like

743
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: a typo, but it's not. In twenty eleven, this is

744
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: according to Christy Dash. This is her stat. In twenty eleven,

745
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: the total number of reported donor contributions for the entire

746
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: SEC was about two hundred and fifty two million dollars.

747
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: That is, the entire conference about a quarter of a

748
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: billion dollars in donations. In twenty thirteen, Texas, A and

749
00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: M alone reported seven hundred and forty million dollars in donations.

750
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: That's the year after the Menzel explosion happens, just on

751
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: godly amounts of money. Let me repeat this the entire

752
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: sec in twenty eleven, two hundred and fifty two mil

753
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: A and M. The year after Menzel blows up and

754
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: wins the Heisman, seven hundred and forty million dollars, they

755
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: blow up Kyle Field and start renovating it. That place

756
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: looks totally different today than it did when he was there,

757
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: largely because of him. I had one of you hit

758
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: us up earlier today and say, would we have ever

759
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: even been able to afford Jimbo Fisher if Johnny Manziel

760
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: hadn't happened, Would the job be as attractive to someone

761
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: like Jimbo Fisher? If Johnny Manziel wouldn't have happened, you

762
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: could do the rest of this show and then some

763
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: just on the impact he had there. But the further

764
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: remove you get from the pre Nil era, the wilder

765
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: it looks like that already sounds pretty wild, and to

766
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people it was ridiculous at the time

767
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: that he had to sneak around as you see in

768
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: the documentary. I mean, they're having to take private flights

769
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: to go do autograph sessions to make thirty K, forty K,

770
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: fifty K. It's not illegal, it's just against NCAA rules.

771
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: And they had a really good system devised for that.

772
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: Nate what a soldier Nate was, by the way, And

773
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: so nowadays you just cash in on that, not back then.

774
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: And so I mean, imagine listening to that another generation

775
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: from now. Imagine in twenty forty you listen to that

776
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: story and you look at those numbers, A and M

777
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: in one year raises three times the amount the entire

778
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: conference did two years earlier, really off the back of

779
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: one guy from Curville, Texas, one guy. Just a staggering,

780
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: staggering amount of money made off of one person. So

781
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: there are several things in this doc that a lot

782
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: of people are talking about. I'm gonna let you form

783
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: your own opinions, but like I said, I appreciate the authenticity.

784
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: It's really ultimately sad though to me, the way I

785
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: came away thinking about it is I remember how entertained

786
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I was when I watched him. But when you get

787
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: the curtain pulled back and he's on this thing, I mean,

788
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: he is an integral part of it. He's on the record.

789
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: He does not pull any punches, but he also not

790
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: really apologetic. He's just presenting his point of view. It's

791
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: kind of sad to me only because I'm looking at

792
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: potential and as great as he was. Yeah, the dude

793
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: never watched film, even in the NFL. He just admits it.

794
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: I never watched film. Zero minutes spent watching film. They

795
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: could track it on his iPad when he was with

796
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: the Browns. Never watched film. Didn't do it in college.

797
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury talked about it former OC. We just knew

798
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: we had a star. You kind of you got to

799
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: treat stars a little bit differently, the old Jimmy Johnson approach,

800
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: but for college football. But man, like, I know some

801
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: of you get anxiety when you even think about traveling,

802
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: and you want every I dotted, you want every T crossed,

803
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: Like Tim watched buddy of mine. I think he lives

804
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: down in Birmingham still. Who knows what Tim does these days,

805
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: but that he travels a lot and tries to pressure

806
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: me to travel a lot. That dude will have an

807
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: itinerary that is longer than the Dead Sea scrolls, and

808
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: he'll know every single thing, every plane, every connection, every price, point. Meanwhile,

809
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: we got Johnny Manziel, a literal NFL quarterback, the day

810
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: before a National Football League regular season game, decides to

811
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: fly to Vegas, gets out there and then just says,

812
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I figured I'd just get out there and find a

813
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: commercial flight back. And then I realized, oh, the last

814
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: flight direct to Cleveland from Vegas, tonight's already left. Oh well,

815
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: let's just turn up for the night. And then the

816
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Browns let him go the next day. He went out

817
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: there the day before a game and did not even

818
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: he did not even know how he was going to

819
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: get back. And the sad part is, I just wonder

820
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: what the guy would have been like with even a

821
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: little discipline, with even a little commitment to the craft,

822
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: because he was just naturally that gifted. That's why you're

823
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: talking about an insane generational talent. He did what he did.

824
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: He rewrote record books, he won the Heisman as a

825
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: true freshman. He became a first run NFL draft pick,

826
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: and had horrific habits, had horrific work ethic, no dedication

827
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: to the craft, at least in comparison to what other

828
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: people that would be considered his peers had. He just

829
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: had God given ability that was so far above and beyond.

830
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: He kind of made up for it. But I was

831
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: reading what Ryan Leaf said about it and his overall

832
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: impression of it. And some people are taking away from

833
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: this documentary that they exploited Johnny Manziel. By they, I

834
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: mean the folks who made the documentary, because this is

835
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: not a story of redemption. It is not a rehabilitation story.

836
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Like if you go into most episodes of Behind the Music,

837
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: you're used to seeing a band blow up and then

838
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: they get sky high, and then drugs and alcohol and

839
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: jealousy and clicks and infighting take him down. But then

840
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: at the end there's the rebound. And about the last

841
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: ten minutes, it's about life after filling the blank, and

842
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: everyone's happy, and everyone's got a wife and four kids,

843
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: and they're all well and good and they've all made up.

844
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: That is not the Johnny Menzel documentary. His best friend

845
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: in college. They haven't spoken since his dad and he

846
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: were estranged for a long time, and I guess things

847
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: are okay there now because they showed him sitting on

848
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: a porch. But I think what stood out the most

849
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: of folks who have watched this is a lot of

850
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: the issues. It sounds like he had he still has.

851
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: And so a lot of people have looked at this

852
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: and said, Okay, if you don't have a redemption portion

853
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the story arc and you tell

854
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: this story, you're exploiting him. I didn't necessarily see it

855
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: that way. I get the point they're making, but my

856
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: counterpoint will be your jobs to tell the story. It's

857
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: not Hollywood. You don't always get to write the kind

858
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: of ending you want. And also, Johnny Menzel's not even

859
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: thir years old yet, so you haven't seen his ending.

860
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: There's still several God willing, there's still several chapters in

861
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: his book to where maybe you're watching part two of

862
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: that thing seven years from now, and it picks up

863
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: where this documentary leaves off, and he's sitting there openly

864
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: telling you about how I was still a disaster at

865
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: the end of that documentary. Now look how far I've come.

866
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: It's part fun to me, it's part sad to me.

867
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: But I also when I saw it conclude and the

868
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: credit start to roll, all I thought about was to

869
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: be continued. It didn't say it on the screen, but

870
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: that is very much to be continued for me, all right,

871
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: let's roll on. It's on Netflix right now. Encourage you

872
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: guys to go watch it. Big recruiting day, specifically in Austin, Texas,

873
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: but I got recruiting scoop all over the country here.

874
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: So Colin Simmons, big five star, edge Rusher six three

875
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: two twenty five. Guess who landed him? Now, I know

876
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the world was shocked today at least

877
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: to some degree. And there were a lot of folks

878
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: think in Miami, a lot of folks think in LSU.

879
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: And then there were folks who watched Lake Kick the

880
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: other night. Colin, do we have it? Let's roll it.

881
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Be honest with you. There's a strong LSU contingent. And

882
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: there's some very knowledgeable, plugged in people in the building

883
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: who think that Colin Simmons is going to commit to

884
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: LSU on Thursday. I'm just not one of them. I

885
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: think he's going to Texas. Colin Simmons committed to the

886
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: University of Texas today. Sometimes you just get lucky, guys,

887
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Sometimes you just

888
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: get lucky. So there is an attitude out there that

889
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: I want to shoot down right now. There is an

890
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: attitude a little talking point, if you will, it's pretty popular.

891
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Well that sounds a little something like this. All right,

892
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: So Texas they got a big recruiting win here, but

893
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: they're going to need to start doing that a lot

894
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: more if they're going to compete in the SEC.

895
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Wrong.

896
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: They need to keep doing it because it's in the

897
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: present tense. They've been doing it the last two classes.

898
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: The last two classes, they've been top five. They've landed

899
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: SEC caliber classes the past two they'll probably end up

900
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: landing one again this cycle. This is just another win.

901
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Then you got other folks who say, oh, well, it

902
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: was just an nil win. That's the game they play

903
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: in the SEC. You better be really good at it.

904
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: Texas is past two classes along with this class. They

905
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: are loading up like they had not done before he

906
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: got there. Another one of the biggest myths in college

907
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: football is well, talent was never an issue for Texas.

908
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Yes it was. They never had the tree, they had

909
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: the ornaments. They had some nice looking ornaments out there

910
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: that they had built teams from the outside end basically,

911
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: and then forgot the end. They have gone about things

912
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: the right way under Stark, And yes it is coincidence

913
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: we had him on the show the day before this happened.

914
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: But if you want to think that that was by design,

915
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop you because it makes us

916
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: look cool and we need all the cool points we

917
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: can get. You know what it's time to do now, though,

918
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: it's time to talk about another Big twelve team? Could

919
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: it be OU? Could it be TCU? No, Central Florida's

920
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: rolling in recruiting. Do you know that Gus Malson's Central

921
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Florida nights of Big twelve fame are rolling and recruiting?

922
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: Who after OU and Texas lead that conference will be

923
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: the big dog on the block. What if I told

924
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: you UCF outside of OU in Texas currently have the

925
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: highest rated class of what will be the remainder of

926
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. They've landed several guys the past few days.

927
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: They are the top class in the Big Twelve. They're

928
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: top twenty five nationally right now. Now, there is a

929
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: side commentary that could be had here, and that is well,

930
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: first commentary is it's a long way to signing day,

931
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: but you guys always remind me of that, so I'll

932
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: let you say that in the comments. The second part

933
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: of the commentary is someone's gonna have to step up

934
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: couple of recruiters. By recruiters, I mean overall staffs are

935
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: gonna have to step up in the conference. You gotta

936
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: have some folks challenging top twelve, top ten, top eight range.

937
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that anyone in the conference will

938
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: have that thish year. But I will tell you this,

939
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: when you look at what it takes to acquire talent today,

940
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: you better be pretty well positioned or you better have

941
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: all star recruiters on your staff. So you better be

942
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: Oregon in other words, but you better be well positioned geographically.

943
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: You need to be in a Power five conference, which

944
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: they are now, and you need to be a parachute destination.

945
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, and I've talked to

946
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: you about this many many times before, is there are

947
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: some places like Central Florida you see f excuse me,

948
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: that are situated in Orlando. There's already a ton of

949
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: talent around them. They don't get all the talent initially,

950
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: but a lot of that talent inevitably will go elsewhere,

951
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: maybe Georgia, maybe Ohio State, maybe North Carolina, and it

952
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: just doesn't work out for whatever reason, and they want

953
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: to transfer. The tendency is to want to transfer closer

954
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: to home, thus the parachute effect. And guess who's right

955
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: there on ground level waiting for him, you Seef is

956
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: right there. I think they're just getting started. Cincinnati could

957
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: be this, Houston could be this, TCU could be this

958
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: someone or a couple of someones really have to step

959
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: up and just gear it up to the next level

960
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: in recruiting in the Big twelve. UCF is doing it,

961
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: so credit to them, Credit to Gus Malson and his staff.

962
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: We order Mediterranean food sometimes in the office and sometimes

963
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: I make Bradley, the associate, order off the kids menu,

964
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: and Tazeki's has a kid's menu item called the Sneaky Tazeki. Well,

965
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: we're not talking about that tonight, but what I will

966
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: talk to you about is Sneaky Missouri. Yeah, transition of

967
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: all transitions there and Sneaky Missouri. It's probably outsurprise a

968
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: lot of you people because Sneaky Missouri is sitting here

969
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: right in the thick of things for the number three

970
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: player in the country and the number seven player in

971
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: the country in football, Josh in football, everyone William's Winari

972
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: is going to commit on August fourteenth. So this is

973
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: coming up pretty soon. He is a five star defensive lineman.

974
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: He's six five, two fifty. You know where he hails from, Missouri.

975
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: And also, since we were showing you Ryan Wingo there,

976
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Wingo is a five star receiver. Latest Christovall there

977
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: is on Missouri. Both of them reside in Missouri. They

978
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: have prioritized him, and I gotta be honest with you,

979
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: if I had to bet right now, I think they

980
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: may land both of them. So let's just keep an

981
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: eye on this. Because you land a couple of top

982
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: ten players, we all know what that does to your ranking.

983
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: They kept Luther Burden home and so Eli Drinkowitz and company.

984
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: You know that Kansas State game in week three is

985
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: really attractive. It's all I'll say right now. It's really

986
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: attractive game. Sneaky Missouri, not just any Missouri, Sneaky Missouri.

987
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: Next up, Caden Durham today committed. He was also a

988
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: teammate of Colin Simmons at Duncanville. Out there, this is

989
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: a four star running back. Very important pick up for

990
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: LSU five nine one ninety fives. Was about to lose

991
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: three running backs that have done things for them. None

992
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: of them have quite panned out how they should have

993
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: in their college career. This cat had nineteen hundred yards

994
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns last year in six A ball in Texas,

995
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: which is as good as it gets. That's an instant impact,

996
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: true freshman when he gets on campus. There are people,

997
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: some people who believe if he left high school right now,

998
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: he'd be able to contribute for LSU this year. Well,

999
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: he just committed to him today. And I was at

1000
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: the friendly downtown YMCA here in Nashville, and I don't

1001
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: believe in multimedia devices in there, but even I had

1002
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: my phone propped up on the squad rack. I was

1003
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: watching it. And so big get for LSU there that

1004
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: they missed out on Colin Simmons, but they got a really,

1005
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: really good running back there. And also, speaking of just

1006
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: freak athletes, Terry Bussey really good name. Terry Bussey's probably

1007
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: on the All Names team this year. He's an athlete.

1008
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: He's listed as one and he is one. Tempson, Texas

1009
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: is where you can go if you want to watch

1010
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: him play high school football. Total freak like dominant quarterback,

1011
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: going to be a receiver at the next level. A

1012
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: and M is the favorite for him at the moment.

1013
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: He is going to also be immediate impact. Whoever lands him.

1014
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: You got an instant return guy, probably slot receiver guy.

1015
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: Could put him on the perimeter, It could probably put

1016
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: him in the backfield for all I care. Five eleven,

1017
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: one pint eighty. Nationally, he's the fifteenth ranked player, but

1018
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: he's the number one overall athlete. Oh U, Texas, Bama,

1019
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: all the big schools are in it for him. I

1020
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: think A and M's probably the destination. But I want

1021
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: you to think about this. I keep talking to you

1022
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: about how underrated A and M is in terms of

1023
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: offensive skill. So let's say this year they actually do

1024
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: fulfill on some of that potential. And then this guy

1025
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: comes in and Coleman, the kid from Alabama comes in

1026
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: as well. They already got him committed. You would have

1027
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: a five star quarterback in Wigman. You'd have a five

1028
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: star running back in ruben Owen's there. You'd have Evan

1029
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: Stewart still there, five star receiver. You got five star athletes,

1030
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and Bussy there. Coleman's a five star. You'd have five

1031
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: stars all over the place. Their roster would be littered

1032
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: with them. It is a dereliction of duty if you

1033
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: don't light up the scoreboard and hang forty plus points

1034
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: per week. With that, recruiting is no longer a December

1035
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: and January sport. This is the time of year to

1036
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: be following recruiting. They're watching us in Clovis, New Mexico tonight,

1037
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: they're watching us in Moultrie, Georgia, and State College Pennsylvania.

1038
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: And we appreciate you guys so much. And if you're

1039
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: watching live, thank you as well. I'd love to have

1040
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: a thousand likes before we go off air. Wish in

1041
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: one hand and like in the other, see which one

1042
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: fills up first. It's me more quote, let's go all

1043
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: the way to the West coast. I think everyone has

1044
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: an opinion of USC. I want yours tonight. I want

1045
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: to talk about the best case, the worst case, and

1046
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: the actual most likely record for USC this year. I

1047
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: think the expectations scale got kind of badly out of

1048
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: whack with Lincoln Riley, And by that, I mean, forget

1049
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: about what you think about Lincoln Riley, get about what

1050
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: you think about that USC logo. Just picture a generic

1051
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: team for a second, and if I told you that

1052
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: team has national championship potential as a program, but lately,

1053
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: they've gone five and seven, eight and five, five and

1054
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: one COVID year four and eight, and then fill in

1055
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: the blank if I told you the next record was

1056
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: eleven and three, eleven and one in the regular season,

1057
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: what would you think, You would think a phenomenal job

1058
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: had just been done. Well, that is USC right now,

1059
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: and that was Lincoln Riley's year one. He rebuilt the

1060
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: roster in the span of one spring, essentially, and they

1061
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: went eleven and one, and then they lost the Pac

1062
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: twelve championship game, and then they lost to Tulane in

1063
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: a bowl game, and folks called it a failure. Now

1064
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you most folks did. I'm saying there

1065
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: are some on the periphery, some on the fringe out

1066
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: there who laughed at him, And I'm like, what are

1067
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: you laughing at? He is where he probably was expected

1068
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: to be in year two or year three, year one.

1069
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: So now we get the fun task of figuring out

1070
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: how good could it be this year? Well, the best

1071
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: case record scenario for USC this year's twelve to zero,

1072
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: because they may be favorite in every game they play. Now,

1073
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: that is way up in the air right now. So

1074
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: we look at that beautiful sunset. Wow. So we were

1075
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: looking at some of the projected point spreads for USC.

1076
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: They go to Notre Dame. They are currently about a

1077
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: one to a one and a half point favorite in

1078
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: that game. That is October fourteenth. They go to Oregon

1079
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: second the last week of the year. Actually it's the

1080
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: third to last week for everyone else, but USC's done

1081
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: after the eighteenth, so they go to Oregon second to

1082
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: last week of the year. They're currently either a one

1083
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: point favorite or a one point dog, depending on which

1084
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: sports book you're looking at. They're a six point favorite

1085
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: at home against Washington. They are a six and a

1086
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: half point favorite at home against Utah. They are a

1087
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: twelve and a half point favorite at home against UCLA.

1088
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: So a lot of competitive games, at least from an

1089
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: odds perspective expected. This is mostly about their defense, though.

1090
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: If they win all these games, if they go twelve

1091
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: and oh regular season, it ain't cause a Caleb Williams

1092
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: doing anything more than we've seen him do, because what

1093
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: he's already done is enough. But when you benefit from

1094
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: the best turnover turnover luck in the sport and you

1095
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: still end up ninety fourth in points per game allowed,

1096
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: that is horrifically bad defensively. If they could just do

1097
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: me a favor and jump into the top fifty this

1098
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: year with those newly acquired pieces on the defensive line,

1099
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: that would be wonderful. Do you hear me? I'm just

1100
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: asking top fifty coach Grinch, top fifty, please they go

1101
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: twelve to Oh if that happens. Now, what most of

1102
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: you probably tuned in for is the next segment the

1103
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. I thought about this for a second

1104
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: because I kind of flip flopped several times between two records.

1105
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I think the worst case for this year for USC

1106
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: would be eight and four. I flirted with seven and five.

1107
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: I went eight and four, And basically my mind goes

1108
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: back to, what if they aren't better defensively? What if

1109
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: they aren't better? So combine that, combined not really improving

1110
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: a whole lot defensively with just not having the turnover luck.

1111
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: If you just did those two things, if they only

1112
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: have a moderate improvement defensively but they're not plus a

1113
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: million in turnover rate, that alone could lose you three

1114
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: or four games. You heard me say how close oddsmakers

1115
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: expect those games to be. What if they're portal acquisitions

1116
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: on the interior of the offensive line don't quite work out.

1117
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: What if the league matches up with them a little

1118
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: bit better. When it comes to quarterback play, you don't

1119
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: have another Caleb Williams out there, but you got a

1120
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: lot of pretty good quarterbacks. And if they get to

1121
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: go against the USC defense that is still sucking water

1122
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: through a garden hose, they don't have to be as

1123
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: good as Caleb Williams to match numbers. They can lose

1124
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: four games out there, I think in the worst case,

1125
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: if nothing were to go right, and that's not even

1126
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: considering what injury could do to you. So what's the

1127
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: most likely record? The most likely record for USC this

1128
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: year I think is ten and two. They're over unders

1129
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: nine and a half, so the over would hit here.

1130
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: Jesse wanted to go eleven and one. I'm almost there.

1131
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not quite there now. If someone listens to me

1132
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: say ten and two, your natural reaction should be, wait

1133
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: a second, we went eleven and one last year. You're

1134
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: expecting us to regress. I'm actually not. I'm not expecting

1135
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: you to regress. I don't think USC will be a

1136
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: worse team this year. You got to understand what that

1137
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: turnover look did for you last year, And what just

1138
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: having even numbers in the turnover battle and having the

1139
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: same team or maybe even a little bit better team

1140
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: does to a normal season. That, by the way, the

1141
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: back half of their schedule at Notre Dame, Utah, at

1142
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Cal Washington, at Oregon Ucla, they play all the best

1143
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: teams on the back end. So I just it's tough

1144
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: for me to see that best case panning out now.

1145
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: Eleven and one gets them everything they need. But if

1146
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm playing this thing out a thousand times, I think

1147
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: there's more ten and two in there than eleven and

1148
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: one unless they've improved more than I think they have defensively,

1149
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: and they got to stay healthy, even with those guys

1150
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: they acquired, They got to stay healthy. That has not

1151
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: been the case so far in spring. It wasn't the

1152
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: case of the point where they couldn't practice the way

1153
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: they wanted to. So ten and two, you can tell me,

1154
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: feel free to tell me why you disagree. Are we

1155
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up with bold predictions here? This is

1156
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: fascinating to me how quickly an hour goes by when

1157
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: we do this show. I don't know if you feel

1158
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: that way, but let's wrap it up with bold predictions.

1159
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: Bold predictions the things that you believe to the point

1160
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: where you would bet your money on this. Well, one

1161
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: of you claims that you would bet your own hard

1162
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: earned mind on the winner of FSU versus LSU making

1163
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: the National Championship game. That comes by way of Inlet,

1164
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina. That's where Taylor lives. So this is a

1165
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: Week one game Sunday night. We'll start our show early

1166
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: because of this game on Week one. So the winners

1167
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: going to the title game? Hunh Well, right now, LSU

1168
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: has the fifth best odds is it to make the

1169
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: title game or win the title game? Jesse, I miss

1170
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: his voice in my ear. They got the fifth best

1171
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: odds to do one of the two and FSU has

1172
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: the ninth best odds. So whoever wins that will have

1173
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: those numbers shift for them. Now, FSU still has a

1174
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: game at Clemson after this, and they got the rest

1175
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: of their schedule. LSU still has to go to Alabama

1176
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: and they've got the rest of the SEC West to

1177
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: deal with. But you're not just talking about making the playoff.

1178
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: You're talking about them making the national title game. So

1179
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: they got to go win. Maybe their conference title game

1180
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: and certainly a semi final game that's just hard to predict.

1181
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: And so I'm calling it a nine. And these are

1182
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: good teams, and the winner of this team will certainly

1183
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: be set up well to where they could afford to

1184
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: lose a game along the way. Still calling that a nine,

1185
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: though now as I say that, I'll also say, don't

1186
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: be punishing folks for scheduling tough games, because we all

1187
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: know what that leads to next up. This one sounds radical,

1188
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: but it's not that radical. So Pecher from Denton to

1189
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: actually Nate from Denton, Texas said TCU will go from

1190
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: the national title game to five hundred or worse. Do

1191
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: you think that's crazy, because I think it's only about

1192
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: an eight point five on the boldness scale. I don't

1193
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: have TCU below five hundred, but I will say they're

1194
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: over under win total seven and a half. Vegas doesn't

1195
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: think this is an overly crazy prediction. They were twelve

1196
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: and oh in the regular season last year and they

1197
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: won a game by eight, seven, three, seven to one.

1198
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: They had three wins by ten points. So you lose

1199
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: Max Duggan, you lose your top two running backs, you

1200
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: lose your leading receiver, you lose your offensive coordinator, and

1201
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: you already played a bunch of close games last year.

1202
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: It's just logic, just basic foundational logic to think, yeah,

1203
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: some of these close games could just go the other

1204
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: way on you. Now that need pretty much all the

1205
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: close games to go against them to go sub five hundred.

1206
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's quite to that degree. But

1207
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: when you have losses like that and then you have

1208
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: any kind of injury at those positions, that's when you develop.

1209
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: That's when you go from a question mark position to

1210
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: a glaring weakness. But we don't predict injuries on the show.

1211
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's inevitable. They sometimes happen. I'm gonna

1212
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: call that I'm seeing if I want to change my mind, Nah,

1213
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it an eight point seventy five. That's

1214
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: pretty bold, but it's not the boldest thing in the world.

1215
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: I could see a world where that happens. Next up,

1216
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm away for Colin to put it up because I

1217
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: want you to enjoy this along with me, and I

1218
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: know this person too, So Chuck Williams down in Columbus,

1219
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: Georgia of wtvm wrbl Ledger in Quire of Fame. You've

1220
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: probably seen him on every network down there, Chuck said,

1221
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: peyton Thorn and bow Nix will both be Heisman ceremony finalists.

1222
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: Bow Nix, I got no problem with. I bought the

1223
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: Bownick stock the moment it was released. I have not

1224
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: bought peyton Thorn Heisman stock, nor will I and the

1225
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: reason is because I don't think Aarburn will have a

1226
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: good enough record, and I don't think he'll have a

1227
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: good enough year. I am sorry to rain on the

1228
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: parade down there. This is a nine point seventy five

1229
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: on the boldness scale for me. Peyton Thorn is currently

1230
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: at plus twenty thousand odds to win the Heisman. He

1231
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: was nineteen to eleven TD to I int last year

1232
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: he threw for under three thousand yards, so he would

1233
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: need like another fifteen hundred yards passing. He would that

1234
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: TDT ratio has to go way up. Auburn just has

1235
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: to be way better than six and a half, which

1236
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: is their preseason over under win total. And you're basically

1237
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: predicting half of the Heisman field here, Chuck Charles, I

1238
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: can't do this with you. I cannot do this, and

1239
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: so I'm calling this a nine point seventy five. Now

1240
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: we can celebrate the fact that one of my dear

1241
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: dear friends from Columbus has come on board and gotten

1242
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: one of the boldest predictions of the year. I just

1243
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: don't know if Chuck's actually putting his money on this. Lastly,

1244
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: this would be fun Torrance, California. That's where Alex is.

1245
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: He said the Pac twelve's gonna have an undefeated team

1246
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the regular season. I don't think

1247
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: they are, so I'm gonna call that a nine. The

1248
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: win totals, you've seen them flashed on the screen every

1249
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: single show We've had. To me, this has to be

1250
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: USC or organ The oddsmakers kind of agree, although Washington

1251
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: has the same win total as those two. I believe

1252
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: that in order to go undefeated there is a certain

1253
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: caliber of roster you're gonna need, and I think they

1254
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: have better high end town than Washington does. Across the board.

1255
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: Washington's a plenty good enough team, but the one that

1256
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: goes undefeated out there, if one does, they probably have

1257
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: the kind of players that USC or Oregon do. But

1258
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: unless one of them has improved their defense significantly, especially

1259
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: significantly in us E's case, it's a meat grinder of

1260
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: a schedule out there this year, and so I think

1261
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: everyone's losing at least one. That's the key for me,

1262
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: who only loses one game, that'd be good enough out

1263
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: on the West coast. All right, good show tonight, there's

1264
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 1: the pen drop. Good show tonight. Make sure, make sure,

1265
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: make sure we are recruiting everyone we can and telling

1266
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: everyone we can subscribe to the channel. There is no

1267
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: string attached. It's free. There's nothing else you need to do.

1268
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: Do the same thing with the podcast, and I'm thanking

1269
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: you in real time because you have been doing it.

1270
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: I just want us to keep doing it. So forty

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Speaker 1: seven percent of you are still unsubscribed, so there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of work to be done until Sunday nine for

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Speaker 1: producer Jesse for direct Colin from Brad the associate ran

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Speaker 1: a little mission for me today very successfully, according to

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Speaker 1: my iPhone, I'm Josh Pate. Take care, have a great

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Speaker 1: rest of your evening, and God bless